Corn!

If I were going to choose an ally in this rock fight, I would choose the truth and you have. Along with the truth, you get Fitzgerald. He's a great ally. The guy doesn't quit. He was at Amherst when you were at Brown, same class. You also get us - well ok, that's a consolation prize but I thought I'd say it.

Go get 'em tomorrow on CSPAN. It's an opportunity. Use it well.

PS. You know the facts, just deliver the goods.

In a Replay of Iraq, a Battle Is Brewing Over Intelligence on Iran By Warren P. Strobel and John WalcottMcClatchy Newspapers
Friday 15 September 2006Washington - In an echo of the intelligence wars that preceded the US invasion of Iraq, a high-stakes struggle is brewing within the Bush administration and in Congress over Iran's suspected nuclear weapons program and involvement in terrorism.

US intelligence and counterterrorism officials say Bush political appointees and hard-liners on Capitol Hill have tried recently to portray Iran's nuclear program as more advanced than it is and to exaggerate Tehran's role in Hezbollah's attack on Israel in mid-July.

The struggle's outcome could have profound implications for US policy.

;President Bush, who addresses the UN General Assembly on Tuesday, has said he prefers diplomacy to stop Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon, but he hasn't ruled out using military force.

at Truthout

David,

If there's something else that'd shut Novak's gaping maw for ANOTHER two-and-a-half years...

DO IT!!!

Thanks, for that and many things!

-T

Wow! Pope apologies! Just in on HuffingtonPost.

Yet Novak has a bug up his keister about me, and he let it fly on C-SPAN.

Novakula has had a hair across his ass about a lot of things for years. On Crossfire he was a cranky old prick who displayed an ideological "certaintude" (props to fc.)

Don't you wonder who he's been taking with and what they've been telling him? Someone convinced him you're an irresponsible hatchetman.

I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling that the "Bush Push" for legalizing torture is simply to get something on the books to protect his' gangs dirty derrieres besides rancid Repugnat Depends and a pocketful of pardons, am I?

-T

Stay with the facts tomorrow David..don't get too wrapped up in the name calling. The last thing that Novak and Toensing want you to do is stick to the facts. As you have all ready stated they want to turn this into a" he said she said" sideshow.

I hope you quote Fitzgerald's findings having to do with Plame's status as covert/Non official cover. Toensing continued to undermine that finding today on C-span.

Pound away at what Valerie was doing..looking for evidence of WMD's.

So important that the public know that it has yet to be determined what the effects of this outing has been on our National Security. So serious to undermine National Security by outing Plame and then have the nerve to run on Security...What a contradiction.

Don't forget to turn your phone off. We will be watching, calling, e-mailing. So many of us appreciate your work and your efforts to bring the truth as best you can to the public.

Shine the light on the lies and contradictions.

Yes, David Corn, shine the light...

at national review today
Hubris
Responding to David Corn responding to me.
By Victoria Toensing
;It's a shame David Corn chose to show his displeasure with my September 15, 2006, Wall Street Journal op-ed about Richard Armitage's role in the Valerie Plame so-called leak by making a baseless personal attack against me. I wrote: The first journalist to reveal Ms. Plame was covert was David Corn on July 16, 2003, two days after Mr. Novak"s column. The latter [Robert Novak] never wrote, because he did not know and it was not so, that Ms. Plame was covert. However, Mr. Corn claimed Mr. Novak outed her as an undercover CIA officer, querying whether Bush officials blew the cover of a U.S. intelligence officer working covertly innational security. Was Mr. Corn subpoenaed? Did Mr. Fitzgerald subpoena Mr. Wilson to attest he had never revealed his wifes employment to anyone? If he had done so, he might have learned Mr. Corn's source.

Nothing like having a "friendly" calling for your indictment, heh?

-T

Can anyone explain why gas prices are down? Did I hear you say elections and because the American public has been taking it up the gas for quite some time? Can you believe that the American public could possibly base their vote on low gas prices. How pitiful

Energy Independence Is a Winner for the GOP

With gas prices coming down, Republicans can switch from defense to offense.By Cesar Conda&

Congressional Republicans are breathing a little easier because of the recent decline in gasoline prices. Earlier this year, Sen. Charles Schumer (D., N.Y.) confidently proclaimed: High gas prices are going to be the final nail in the GOP's coffin this election year. Today, gasoline prices have dropped to almost $2 per gallon in some parts of the country.

at national Review

Where is Micheal Ledeen? Is he tapping Manucher Ghorbanifar for more false intelligence? In a Replay of Iraq, a Battle Is Brewing Over Intelligence on Iran By Warren P. Strobel and John Walcott Friday 15 September 2006 Washington - In an echo of the intelligence wars that preceded the US invasion of Iraq, a high-stakes struggle is brewing within the Bush administration and in Congress over Iran's suspected nuclear weapons program and involvement in terrorism. US intelligence and counterterrorism officials say Bush political appointees and hard-liners on Capitol Hill have tried recently to portray Iran's nuclear program as more advanced than it is and to exaggerate Tehran's role in Hezbollah's attack on Israel in mid-July. The struggle's outcome could have profound implications for US policy. President Bush, who addresses the UN General Assembly on Tuesday, has said he prefers diplomacy to stop Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon, but he hasn't ruled out using military force. at truthout

#8
Hajji,
My husband said the same thing today. The right wing is running in all directions. The sky is falling.

#10
Yes, cockroaches hate light.

David,
You are a great journalist and a fine man. Please keep up the good work. I promise to buy the book, and to read every word. But, do´n`t miss too many columns. Thanks.
Ed W.

Corn writes these long and largely personal posts that duck the essence of the complaints about him -- that he is a highly partisan left winger whose basic claims about Plame have been debunked. He should have recognized long ago that by being highly partisan he would sacrifice his credibility. Nothing he can say now will recover his credibility, so I guess in that sense, he is better off just attacking his critics and feigning insult than dealing with the facts.

But Corn sometimes trips himself up with his limited dislcosures. Now, he has Wilson, the guy Wilson and Corn have described as up in arms over the devestating disclosure of information about his wife, telling Corn "its up to you" when he hears Corn is going to write about his wife being a covert CIA person. Give me a break.

Kathleen,
The gas prices are at about $2.13 in my neck of the woods (MN). I don't think it's political...cough cough. It would be interesting to see where the gas prices are the lowest and see if the Repugs are trying to keep their political base in those areas. I told one person to be prepared for the HIKE after the election. Like say about a $2 hike. Another explanation might be that the oil giants know the Repugs have a good chance of losing and are trying to keep the Democrats off their backs. If they keep the prices low the Democrats won't come back at them. The Democrats will have other bigger fish to fry if the prices are low.

Brian,
Three's a book on the shelves right now that you should read. It is a really good analysis of this issue. It's called Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandel, and the Selling of the Iraq War. Of course there's a lot more to the book than just the Plame deal.

It's a shame David Corn chose to show his displeasure with my September 15, 2006, Wall Street Journal op-ed about Richard Armitage's role in the Valerie Plame so-called leak by making a baseless personal attack against me. I wrote: "The first journalist to reveal Ms. Plame was 'covert' was David Corn on July 16, 2003, two days after Mr. Novak?s column.

Let's revisit this: Armitage told Novak, Rove confirmed, Harlow (CIA) asked Novak twice not to write the story and Novak publishes "Plame" is a "CIA" "operative".

Two days later, Corn poses the question: Did Novak reveal the identify of a covert CIA agent?

I think it's a good question and Toensing is right about one thing, Corn was the first to use the word "covert" but that's hardly an accurate representation of the fact Novak (Armitage and Rove) put the fact of Plame's role in the CIA in the public arena as an operative. To the those of us unfamiliar with CIA vocabulary, operative pretty much means spy. Sorry, Teonsing your JD is showing. Fancy word tricks are your trade and there's nothing more you'd like that an argument about who outed Valerie Plame.

Now, what was that baseless personal attack you acuse Corn of? Beside being a talented photo journalist, what else would you like us to know about your lovely daughter?

#20
OMG, I wrote three instead of there.

whose basic claims about Plame have been debunked

That's what this blog is for. Take a shot at it. Present the evidence that contradicts Corn's claims.

The Republicans are feeling the pressure so they are turning up the pressure on Fitzgerald...

fhe Case of the
Missing Crime
The CIA leaker has been found. No law was broken. Why is the prosecutor still going after Scooter Libby?
by Clarice Feldman 09/25/2006,
The New York Times and Washington Post are hard at work airbrushing history to obscure their role in promoting Joseph C. Wilson's incredible tale of his Mission to Niger and subsequent fantasy of martyrdom at the hands of Karl Rove. Both add insult to injury. While minimizing their own responsibility for the three-year witchhunt for an imagined White House conspiracy, they still suggest that I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby--Vice President Cheney's former chief of staff and the only man indicted in the case--committed a crime for which he must be held accountable.
Really? It would appear that the Fourth Estate has been as inattentive to the criminal case as it was to the facts that led up to it. The case against Libby is as weak as the basis for the investigation was, and the animus that impelled it so distorted the investigative process as to make its continuation a travesty. It's long past time for Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald to do the right thing and drop the charges.
at pajamas media

David Corn:

Remember at the annual Gridiron Club bacchanal when Bob Novak hammed it up in a skit about the Plame leak, singing to the tune of "Once I Had a Secret Love?"

His finale, with a wink and arched-eyebrow grin, was "Cross the right wing you may try/Bob Novak's coming after you."

Not so funny now, is it? Novak's got a hidden agenda. I hope we find out who set it, and what it is.

Jeanne it would be great to see Olbermann do a piece like the one he did where he compared negative news events for the Bush administration and demonstrated how often the color code fear factor would be raised to distract the american public from that event. The same could be done for gas prices.

Well, I'm a little late with this because the topic has change from public art but...Jeanne, you'll be interested...

RODIN: In His Own Words

Today I went to our wonderful little museum and was privileged to see a marvelous Rodin exhibit. In the literature provided, I was reminded of the high regard for sculpture during Rodin's lifetime. The most highly regarded sculptures were projects done for public places because they were thought to have universal rather than personal meaning.

I was thinking about Rodin but I couldn't remember any of his sculpture.

Virgo, 2004, acrylic on linen, 57.5 x 45 inches (art)

Untitled (Constellation), 2003, Acrylic on linen (art)

The Case of the Missing Crime
The CIA leaker has been found. No law was broken. Why is the prosecutor still going after Scooter Libby?by Clarice Feldman
09/25/2006 The New York Times and Washington Post are hard at work airbrushing history to obscure their role in promoting Joseph C. Wilson's incredible tale of his Mission to Niger and subsequent fantasy of martyrdom at the hands of Karl Rove. Both add insult to injury. While minimizing their own responsibility for the three-year witchhunt for an imagined White House conspiracy, they still suggest that I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby--Vice President Cheney's former chief of staff and the only man indicted in the case--committed a crime for which he must be held accountable.
Really? It would appear that the Fourth Estate has been as inattentive to the criminal case as it was to the facts that led up to it. The case against Libby is as weak as the basis for the investigation was, and the animus that impelled it so distorted the investigative process as to make its continuation a travesty. It's long past time for Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald to do the right thing and drop the charge

at national review

Republicans are sure feeling the heat they are applying pressure on Fitzgerald in packs. They mush know Fitzgerald is going to drop a bomb.

Bloomberg Reportedly Considers Independent Presidential Run by Joe Gandelman For those of you who may have thought 2008 was shaping up as a race between two major parties, think again. There is an outside chance that there may be a third big-name candidate. This independent thing is catching... especially amongst people who lose and ditch their team LIEBERMANN

Untitled, 2000 12 1/8" x 15 1/2" x 2" (pic)

Jeanne,

I saw the small, indy station putting out $2.09 on my way home tonight.

I'm thinkin' more that Oil companies think that the less pissed-off the "sheeple" are, the less they're likely to confront the status-quo.

But I'm just this guy, y'know...

-T

31 I think you're right. The next development in the leak case is coming soon and the propaganda machine is gearing up to preempt. FITZ!

Gloomy Beacon ,2000 (pic)

#28 Adjust your thinking cap. It'll come to you.

It's really funny that when the right wing isn't running scared they use the 'see what we do to people who cross us' tactic as they did with Wilson. But when they start running scared they jump down the throats of anyone who reveals to the public the crimes they have committed and the errors they have made. When someone, like David Corn reminds and lays out analysis they just go berserk. Amazing. Just amazing. This is a group of people who can't see consequences coming and can't handle them when they do. What does the country do with these losers? This included the white house by the way.

I forgot...does the "thinking cap" go over or UNDER the tin-foil?

#27
Micki,
How do people create those masterpieces? My God.

David,

You accuse a sitting President of the United States of being a liar and almost every other vile object imaginable, yet recoil in horror when someone tries to contradict you on a little-watched cable television station.

It just goes to show that liberals are thin-skinned hypocrites who try to dish it out, but who really can't take it.

It also shows why you are intellectually weak and philosophically bankrupt. We need mental warriors, not wimps.

#39 I'll have to think about that question. I think I'll ask O'Reilly. Actually, I think I'll ask him for his risotto recipe first. On second thought, I think I'm hungry. Ciao!

#39
If you put it under you take the chance of having a rational thought leak in. Over would be better.

I'm thinking. . . . nope, it hasn't come to me yet. . . still thinking...

I think the tin foil hat IS a thinking cap. The proverbial thinking cap is metaphorical. The tin one keeps others from knwing your thoughts.

Gas $2.89 for regular in Bishop CA.

Arborio rice
grated parmesan cheese
fresh graden tomato
fresh basil, 1/4 cup chopped

Cook the rice, stirring frequently. Add chopped tomatoes 1/4 in. cubes, stir in cheese, stiry in half of the basil, serve in bowls hot topped with basil and sprinkled parm. Yummie! Watch your portion size, white rice is high glycemic.

bush is a lying puppet, nothing less, nothing more.

#41
FC...tsk tsk tsk.... Here's the deal. David Corn backs up his accusations with....facts. I'd recoil in horror too if somebody lambasted me for no rational reason and nothing to back up the smears. I'm sure David Corn has a tough hide and I'm sure he expected the smears. But I'm also sure he was ready and waiting with both barrels loaded. What did you think he was going to do, run and hide? That's what the right wing hopes for but it doesn't always happen. Especially on this blog.

I'm afraid to ask because I fear my question will be misunderstood as an offer for a dialogue but here goes: How is a "liar" a "vile object" and what is a "mental warrior?"

Novak appeared tired and frustrated in his interview on Friday (CSPAN). I felt sorry for him. It is difficult to take him seriously when it is clear he is so out of touch with the media (Hardball, John Stewart, etc) today.

He really didn't make sense to me. He claimed he didnt take notes when he originally interviewed Armitage. How can a reliable journalist interview a person and not take any notes--then tell the world he remembers exactly what the person told him in an interview 3 years later. Does he think we are stupid? He first claims one thing about the his interview with Armitage, then later claims something else. Of course, conveniently, he doesnt have any notes to verify his claims and expects us all to take what he says at face value.
I suspect that Novak's memory is not what he thinks it is--and in the future I hope he documents everything so we (the public) don't have to be subjected to his confusion of the facts.

Novak attacked Corn and Isikoff because they have written a book (based on facts) that disputes his claims. Of course, he is going to attack Corn--he has to, Novak's ego will not allow him to anything else but defend his undefendable position.

I hope David Corn will appear on CSPAN and let the public know that he feels pitifully sorry for Novak for his baseless claims and desperate attempts to cover up the Rove's (and others in the administration) involvement in the Plame scandal. Desperate people do desperate deeds and Novak is clearly desperate--unfortunately, his claims have caused him to make a fool of himself.

I thought I heard (on Washington Journal) that david Corn will be on tomorrow (monday), I may be wrong about that--if he is, I hope he will treat his desperate adversary with the pity he deserves.

BTW- It didn't sound (to me) as though Novak (or toensing) had read your book, maybe if you would send them a copy they might be more enlightened with the facts and stop attacking you.

O'Reilly,

Makes my grilled Salmon over Uncle Ben's seem kinda...well, actually, It was STILL pretty good!

But I'ma gonner Risotto, tomorrow!

-T

p.s. Fatchuncker, shouldn't you be out there killin' some'a thum MUSLIMS, in great numbers, or something?

Yummm. Salmon.

How Bad Is the Senate
Intelligence Report?
Very bad.by Stephen F. Hayes
09/25/2006, According to a report released September 8 by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, Saddam Hussein "was resistant to cooperating with al Qaeda or any other Islamist groups." It's an odd claim. Saddam Hussein's regime has a long and well-documented history of cooperating with Islamists, including al Qaeda and its affiliates

As early as 1982, the Iraqi regime was openly supporting, training, and funding the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood, an Islamist organization opposed to the secular regime of Hafez Assad. For years, Saddam Hussein cultivated warm relations with Hassan al-Turabi, the Islamist who was the de facto leader of the Sudanese terrorist state, and a man Bill Clinton described as "a buddy of [Osama] bin Laden's
at national review

The radical right just will not stop
spinning

Corn contends that Novak's use of "operative" implies Plame's classified employment, but Victoria Toensing in her 17 Sep rebuttal [in National Review Online] asserts that "operative" does not imply classified employment. Having helped frame the Intelligence Identities Protection Act, Toensing should know.

If Joseph C. Wilson IV and wife continue their civil suit vs. Libby et al, we can expect to see counsel for Libby et al mount a defense. And whereas Patrick Fitzgerald had no subpoena for Corn, there is no guarantee that counsel for Libby et al will treat Corn similarly. In which case Corn then must in due course begin springing for legal fees. Were I he, I too would be squalling and bawling.

Mr. David Corn,

"Novak might need to hone his reading comprehension skills."

That seems to be some kind of affliction on the right.

The moonbats cannot handle facts because all facts are "reality based" and therefore facts are in conflict with their "beliefs".

Thanks for all of your work.

Kirk

I made the mistake of buying Jordan almonds this afternoon at the supermarket. I can't stop.

Bledsoe will somehow find a way to lose this game.

Anybody want to talk about good questions for Corn on C-SPAN?

What is "squalling"?

Corn contends that Novak's use of "operative" implies Plame's classified employment

That's what I thought too. If Novak said secretary or accountant I wouldn't have thought "spy" and "undercover" but Novak said "operative" and so that is what came to mind.

How does Victoria Teonsing know what Corn "ought" to know about the word "operative"?

Who is paying Teonsing?

#49
Don't get me giggling.

American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source squall2 (skw?nbsp; Pronunciation Key
n.
A brief sudden violent windstorm, often accompanied by rain or snow.
Informal. A brief commotion.

intr.v. squalled, squall·ing, squalls
To blow strongly for a brief period.

[Probably of Scandinavian origin.]

American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source squall1 (skw?nbsp; Pronunciation Key
n.
A loud, harsh cry.

intr.v. squalled, squall·ing, squalls
To scream or cry loudly and harshly.

[Probably of Scandinavian origin; akin to Old Norse skvala, to squeal.]
squaller n.

squalling

adj : characterized by short periods of noisy commotion; "a home life that has been extraordinarily squally" [syn: squally]

"Mental Warrior"

A more violent member of the "Thought Police"!

Over at The Corner on National Review Online, Cliff May states that he and Corn nearly "came to blows in the Green Room at Fox this week."

I suppose that May meant Fox News. Be that as it may, Fox Sports should offer to host a boxing match between May and Corn. They could bill it as "sissy boy slap party."

speaking of Scandinavian where's Erling?

Jeanne,

I dunno 'bout Earling, but my Helsinki pal told me that there's a sadness to this time of year for him when he basically quits the bartending business, for the time being, and returns to the University to complete his 2nd or 3rd masters'.

I'll send this question to C-SPAN:

What do you say to the argument that claims since Armitage from State was the first known leaker, there was no conspiracy in the White House to leak Valarie Plame's classified status?

Trouble a brewing.

Post: Election experts fear major problems at polls

Election experts fear major problems at polls during November's election, according to a front page story in Sunday's Washington Post.

"An overhaul in how states and localities record votes and administer elections since the Florida recount battle six years ago has created conditions that could trigger a repeat -- this time on a national scale -- of last week's Election Day debacle in the Maryland suburbs, election experts said," write Dan Balz and Zachary A. Goldfarb for the Post.

...But in Maryland last Tuesday, a combination of human blunders and technological glitches caused long lines and delays in vote-counting. The problems, which followed ones earlier this year in Ohio, Illinois and several other states, have contributed to doubts among some experts about whether the new systems are reliable and whether election officials are adequately prepared to use them.

In a polarized political climate, in which elections are routinely marked by litigation and allegations of incompetent administration or outright tampering, some worry that voting problems could cast a Florida-style shadow over this fall's midterm elections.

Now, I'm off to bed...looks like Bledsoe couldn't even find a way to lose this one...

G'nite and good rest.

-T

Gee. Why did I think the affair was brought on by the CIA asking for charges to be filed in the case?

Corn may have been observant enough to take note, but don't the Novak legal bills come from the case made by the CIA? and not Corn, Shumer or any Democrats of note?

"... I don't know what the conservative columnist has against yours truly. ..." Cornball, he's a journalist-columnist. Probably just wants to set the record straight. You are the first one to mention a supposed "undercover" status for the serial liar's wife, no? Don't sweat it. Without the active and repeat lying by the NYT rag and Wash. Compost, this moonbat conspiracy theory would never have gotten off the ground. It ain't your fault.

Can you give C-SPAN watchers a three minute summary of the story of how the Bush administration brought the country to war in Iraq?

Oh...look at this. Looks like everybody is seeing the same strategy.

Olbermann: Bush's 'rush' to redefine Geneva Conventions may be mostly about 'covering his own backside'

Keith Olbermann's Friday broadcast on MSNBC featured a long look at the President's contentious Rose Garden press conference on Friday, dubbing it the "Roast Garden," and then pondered whether Bush's urgency to redefine the Geneva Convention had more to do with "covering his own backside" than anything else.

...In video of the Friday presser, a visibly angry President raises his voice as responds to reporters' questions.

NBC White House Correspondent David Gregory asks the President how he would react if American officers were interrogated based on another country's own re-interpreted version of the Geneva Conventions. Without answering the question, Bush says, "We can debate this issue all we want but the practical matter is if our professionals do not have clear standards in the law, the program will not go forward."

Further pressed by Gregory for an answer, Bush raises his voice and says, "You can ask this question all you want but the bottom line is -- and the American people have got to understand this -- that this program won't go forward... if there are vague standards applied like those in Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions. It's just not going to go forward. Now, perhaps some in Congress don't think the program is important. That's fine."
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Isn't that great? Bush's backside is more important than the soldiers he sends out to defend the country from 'terrorism' he helped stimulate.

"And, in Novak's telling, this all led to "a very unnecessary investigation." While presenting his paranoid account--a "left-wing investigative team" from Newsday?--he failed to mention that the CIA first examined the leak and then asked the Justice Department for an FBI investigation. I find it difficult to believe that my one web-column or the remarks of Senator Schumer somehow caused the CIA lawyers to do something they would not have otherwise done. Maybe I am too modest."

I think you might have missed this above?

capt

Plame. To think that this administration is so incompetent that they can't even properly smear a measly CIA agent and her grandstanding husband. What a bunch of dumbasses.

What's worse is watching the twisting and turning of the apologists on the right to justify the idiocy of the current crop of dumbasses in the WH.

First WMD-Timmie makes a verifiable dingbat of himself ranting, raving, huffing and puffing about the fact that Saddam and Al Qaeda were in cahoots, that, in the words of the President, they were "allies." Then (as Capt. linked) the Senate Whitewash Committee pops a cap in Timmie's ass. To make matters worse, it was widely known in the CIA in '02 That Bin Laden Had No Iraq Ties. None.

Then we've got numbnuts like Cliffy May saying that Mr. Corn outed Valerie Plame. Never mind the words of Mr. Fitzgerald:
"Valerie Wilson's cover was blown in July 2003. The first sign of that cover being blown was when Mr. Novak published a column on July 14th, 2003."

What's even more pathetic is that almost a year after Fitzgerald announces that Plame's cover was blown, we have Happy trying to claim (long after the rest of the civilized world has forsaken that line of logic) that Plame was not a covert agent.

Now we have Le Douchebag d'Liberte himself trying to slime Mr. Corn after having changed his story at least 5 times. His excuse to Russert? That he tends to misspeak in live appearances.

O'Reily,

Fair question that I be asked to support my view that the facts (including those now being published by Corn) debunk Corn's prior claims.

Unfortunately, I don't have the time to do the answer full justice. But my recollection is that Corn has consistently pushed the theme that there was a violation of the law (he even confirms that with his new account of his telehone conversations with Wilson) and there was a Rove centric conspiracy. It seems that with the disclosure of Armitage as the first and apparently principal leaker and the failure of Fitzgerald to indict anyone for the leak, Corn's claims have been debunked.

I assume there is no dispute over the fact that Corn is highly partisan. I saw him on Bloggerheads where he was trying to defend himself based on his journalistic integrity. I don't think that works very well when he is such an obvious partisan and, for that matter, so prone to personal attacks.

Did your research delve into the anthrax mailed to Tom Daschle by US mail and how it may have influenced his thinkiong on the question?

Senator Graham offers strong defense of Geneva Convention

CBS Face The Nation host Bob Schieffer said to Graham, "This would seem to me to be a huge political risk for you. You come from a very conservative state. A state that is probably one of the strongest states for President Bush. You're taking on the president on this. I'll bet you that you get a primary opponent as a result of this."

Senator Graham responded, "Well, I'm getting pounded at home by some people -- why can't you work with the president? The president wants to defend us. The CIA needs to get good information. These guys are barbarians. Why are you standing in the way? I'm not standing in the way. I share the same goals, but I'm a military lawyer. Twenty-two years as a member of the Air Force JAG Corps. When I put that uniform on, I took an obligation as a military officer.

"Now I have an obligation as a senator. I admire our president, I want to help him. But the biggest risk in the world is not Lindsey Graham losing an election. We can have a good country without Lindsey Graham being in the Senate. We cannot have a great nation when we start redefining who we are under the guise of redefining our law.

"My biggest fear is that as we try to solve these complicated legal procedures and problems that we're seen as taking shortcuts and we don't redefine the law, we redefine America in a way so we can't win this war. That's what Colin Powell is saying. That's what General Vessey's saying. It's not about my political career. America can do well without me, but we cannot do well if we're seen to abandon our principles and the rule of law."

A mental warrior has a black belt in BRAIN KUNG-FUks; a person who eats thumbtacks for breakfast and avoids yogurt and soy products. The mental warrior uses mouth-breathing techniques to enhance his mental gyrations. The mental warrior is exquisitely simple and never forgets that his mind is his limiting factor.

One's status as a democrat or republican or a politcal commentator from the right or from the left doesn't disable a journalist from being a journalist.

Just like a newspapaer, a journalist can write journalism or opinion. Writing opinion doesn't disqualify someone from reporting.

Corn's status as a left leaning commentator doesn't prohibit him from adhearing to journalistic principlew in his non-opinion journalistic articles.

Does Novak lose the ability to tell the truth because he is a well-known right-wing partisan? No, that's not why.

"... he failed to mention that the CIA first examined the leak and then asked the Justice Department for an FBI investigation. ... I think you might have missed this above? ... capt" That was in late September, 2003. Cornball is just lying again there.

#73
His excuse to Russert? That he tends to misspeak in live appearances.
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Ok, now you guys have got me giggling. I wish I could have seen Russert's expression when he heard that. His eyes bug out of his head when he has to swallow the BS he hears from these idiots.

#62 Jeanne, I think Erling went to Turkey.

If the case was without merit, the judge would have dismissed the charges against Libby. Libby is lying and obstructing justice. What does Libby know that he doesn't want other to know?

#81
wow...people and their adventures. I'm going to Elba on thursday to climb a forest ranger tower. And then I'm going to Winona to buy donuts. And then I'm going to Lanesboro to buy a wooden spoon. Jealous aren't you?

Oop I almost forgot...I'm going to Lake City to buy Pepin Heights Cider.

There is a possibility that Bob Novak is so pissy just because he's not accustomed to anyone QUESTIONING him. He's gotten away with so much shit in his career, rumor-mongering and distributing well-organized false innuendoes (Tom Foley comes to mind, for one), that the old DISAGREEABLE fart might be just getting even at the personal level.

We should keep in mind that NOVAK IS NOT A JOURNALIST -- he is a syndicated opinion columnist and TeeVee pundit. He's a hack.

No one has ever held Novak accountable for his machinations. David "sic him!" Enough already with the niceties!

Your book sales will soar!

Jeanne, his eyes bug out of his head because because he's full of shit, too.

O'Reilly, thanks for the recipe. There's olive oil in there some place!

Senate To Investigate Administration Coercion of Military Lawyers

Last week, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) alleged that the U.S. military's top uniformed lawyers were pressured by the administration for more than five hours to "sign a prepared statement" supporting the President's proposal for military tribunals. Today on CBS's Face The Nation, Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA) announced that he plans to hold a hearing investigating the incident. The JAG lawyers would be called as witnesses.
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Ok Sen. Specter...we believe you.

AP Photographer Held In Iraq for Five Months

We know that it is dangerous for journalists in Iraq, just ask David Bloom, Lara Logan, Bob Woodruff and Jill Carroll. You know, the ones that stepped out of the Green Zone. But the dangers to journalists are not solely from "insurgents", "terrorists" or whatever the White House wants to refer to as the "enemy in Iraq".

Reuters:

The U.S. military has been holding an Iraqi photographer working for The Associated Press since April, and the agency asked on Sunday that he either be charged or released.

Bilal Hussein, 35, was taken into U.S. military custody on April 12 in the Iraqi city of Ramadi and has been held since then without charge, AP said.

"Bilal Hussein has been held in violation of Iraqi law and in disregard to the Geneva Conventions. He must be charged under the Iraqi system or released immediately," said Tom Curley, AP president and chief executive.

AP said its own examination "had produced no evidence that Hussein had done anything to justify holding him" and that it was making its request public because all other efforts had failed to secure his release. Read on…

So if Bush gets his way, Hussein can remain in prison indefinitely and go to trial without knowing what he’s charged with or what evidence there is against him. This White House has had a fairly testy relationship with the press from the beginning, but this is ridiculous.

O'Reily,

You are correct that a liberal or conservative columnist does not necessarily lose his or her journalistic intergrity with respect to their fact reporting. There are examples, such as George Will, Bill Buckley, David Broder, Clarence Page and probably Joe Klein (I don't read him that much and there was that stupid annonymous book), who maintain high levels of credibility.

In fact, I think all media reporters should disclose their political preferences, then demonstrate to their readership/listeners that they are credible by the quality of their work. I think the present situation is ridiculous where reporters and television anchors conceal their political preferences and tell us to just trust them to be objective. I'm for full disclosure and trust the intelligence of your audience to figure out if you are credible or not.

On Corn, I don't know much of his history, but on the Plame issue he has been very partisan and extreme, and at least his recent other writings also have been so. Combined with his spinning and dissembling in recent writings on the Plame matter when he tries to defend himself (e.g., "thought excercise and not an act of disclosure" when the truth ws that he clearly disclosed in his original column that Plame supposedly was a covert agent), I think his credibility has suffered a big blow.

Shrill, hysterical lefty partisan blogger

[..]

Just look at the things we're debating -- whether the U.S. Government can abduct and indefinitely imprison U.S. citizens without charges; whether we can use torture to interrogate people; whether our Government can eavesdrop on our private conversations without warrants; whether we can create secret prisons and keep people there out of sight and beyond the reach of any law or oversight; and whether the President can simply disregard long-standing constitutional limitations and duly enacted Congressional laws because he has deemed that doing so is necessary to "protect" us.

These haven't been open questions for decades if not centuries. They've been settled as intrinsic values that define our country. Yet nothing is settled or resolved any longer. Everything -- even the most extremist and authoritarian policies and things which were long considered taboo -- are now openly entertained, justifiable and routinely justified.

More HERE

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Glenn is addressing Yoo.

capt

Hall of Honor

Dear Cornposters:

I am announcing a new category for worthwhile people. Recognition is given to persons who have been attacked verbally and criticized by Nazis, fascists, scumbags, slime balls, neocons, and religious right groups. The new award is called Hall of Honor. I will add more names as they become available to me and as I can recall more names. You may assist with names as well. Politicians' names are excluded because most politicians are attacked verbally and criticized by some group or groups.

Here are the names of the recipients of this award.

David Corn
Bishop Thomas Gumbleton
Father John Dear

Sincerely,

Gerald

P.S. Mr. Corn, please consider it a great honor to be attacked verbally by Robert Novak. He is a low life and possibly sub-human.

#89
brian,
I think his credibility has suffered a big blow.
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Ok...yeah...whatever...credibility has suffered a big blow...sure...

Go to think progress and watched the blowhard Novak on the video they have there. Are you defending him? Are you defending the White House that got us into Iraq for no good reason? Who ignored the gulf coast as one of the worst hurricanes in history barrelled its way inland? The same White House who continues to ignore the laws of this nation and the writings of the constitution? Is that who you are defending?

#91
Gerald,
I bet David Corn is proud.

You guys always want to switch the subject from Corn's credibility or lack thereof.

But I wil indulge you on Novak. He certainly is hated by folks on the left. But I really am not aware of him getting things wrong in his columns. Recently, what I've read, he seems to have pretty good inside sources. I think the animosity must be the result of his long television career and his arrogant demeanor on TV. I also would think lefties would have a soft spot for him since he opposed the Iraq War.

Does anyone have examples of him being wrong in his fact reporting?

Jeanne, here are three new names for the Hall of Honor - Greg Palast, Al Franken, and Michael Moore.

I was checking out the weather in MN and noticed the satellite map. Look at how colorful the Pandemoniac back yard is.

San Antonio

#94
You're a comedian right? I'm supposed to laugh right? Satire, right?

Gerald,
Dahr Jamail and Robert Fisk.

I am also excluding my foxes from the Hall of Honor. They are deserving of special honors and accolades.

#98
And of course Bill Moyers.

#98 Jeanne, Jamail is a columnist and I need more info on Jamail and Fisk. Thank you for any help. For example, what person or group has attacked these men. I will add women's names as well but I may prefer to have them as part of my foxes' list. I am certain that there could be thousands of names to be added to the Hall of Honor. Certain people are always attacked scumbags and slime balls.

In these dangerous and unhappy times the list for your hall of fame is very long. The right has never understood the real power of the written word. The right only chooses to use words to smear. They've never understand that the strength comes when it is used to reveal the truth.

#96,

WOW - that looks like bad weather.

We finally broke the cycle of rain. The foothills of the Sandia Mountains were 229% over the same time last year. If we get some snow NM will have had a drought busting year.

Clear and cool today.

capt

Re. The Armitage/Novak Articles making the rounds
The Tards got excited and forgot the check the Facts.

Novak didn’¥ even meet Armitage till July 8, 2003

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-edt-novak14.html
. . . I sat down with Armitage in his State Department office the afternoon of July 8. . .

Libby told Miller about Valerie more than two weeks before Armitage met Novak; DOH!

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/osc/documents/libby_indictment_28102005.pdf
. . . On or about June 23, 2003, LIBBY met with New York Times reporter Judith Miller. During this meeting LIBBY was critical of the CIA, and disparaged what he termed ҳelective leakingӠby the CIA concerning intelligence matters. In discussing the CIAճ handling of Wilsonճ trip to Niger, LIBBY informed her that Wilsonճ wife might work at a bureau of the CIA. . .

No Reich-wing truthiness?

TARDS

Now THAT is funny. (and true)

Good post - just those pesky facts.

Thanks

capt

#101
Oh...I see. Well, Bill Moyers belongs in the Hall of Fame. He was shoved off PBS. However it is your hall of fame so you get to choose.

#100 Jeanne, Bill Moyers is an excellent name.

Here are some names of excellent columnists and commentators but I am unaware of them being attacked by scumbags and slime balls - Paul Craig Roberts, Jim Hightower, Bob Herbert, Frank Rich, and Alex Jones.

It's kinda funny that the Liberal Media (sic) has gone sour on Mr. Bush. From that Leftloony fishwrap, BusinessWeek Online:
What's Really Propping Up The Economy
"Since 2001, the health-care industry has added 1.7 million jobs. The rest of the private sector? None"

Jobs? Who needs freekin' jobs? 19 million jobs created under Big Dawg. He was so good at gettin jobs that he jobbed himself right onto the edge of impeachment.

Republican incompetence? They can't even run their much-vaunted War on Terror without the typical rightwing upfuckery that has become common in Congress. Pakistan won't go after Bin Laden as long as he promises not to kill too many Americans. Then they release the killers of that Pearl guy, again with the understanding that they play nice... wink, wink, nudge, nudge. And the Reds? They have a plan. They're going to appease the terrorists. Lovely:
"WASHINGTON, Sept 15: The United States believes that the agreement the government recently signed with pro-Taliban tribal chiefs in Waziristan has the `potential to work'.

In a policy speech at the School of Advanced International Studies here, Assistant Secretary of State Richard Boucher endorsed the deal as an effort to get tribal support to defeat terrorism."

Concise. Look it up in the dictionary and you'll find a picture of Billmon. Maybe not. I've never seen a picture of Billmon.
Shorter Krauthammer
"America must attack Iran even if sets the Middle East on fire, because the Iranians are crazy and might set the Middle East on fire."
Posted by billmon at September 15, 2006 10:21 PM

I like that one.

I also like this ad that blows Macaca Allen out of the water for his refusal to protect our country's brave troops.

I've been hearing every Sunday for the last 4 Friedmans that Israel is going to blast Iran if the U.N. doesn't wipe out their nuclear program. CNN says the US will take care of Iran. I never knew CNN was so into the whole comedic line of reporting.

And speaking of funny, Happy, your post way back trying to parse the Identities Protection act was a hoot!! If a UPS man delivered papers to Iraq, in Iraq, for the JTFI, would he be "serving" as a covert operative for the CIA (tongue in cheek, firmly)? The law doesn't define "serving" because only a certifiable dingbat would try to parse the word "serving." That is almost as funny as you guys giving money to Joe Lieberman, oops, I mean Loserman. I know the rightwing came up with that name for Joe and I don't want to confuse them. And you whine about Liberals playing name games? Hilarious! Stop. You're killing me. Seriously, though. Give to Joe. Give till I die laughing.

And if Happy isn't funny enough to knock you out, check out Le Douchbag himself. He takes on that bastion of Left Wing Liberalism, that smug bastard, Jon Stewart.

Glenn Greenwald, Syndey Blumethal?

Jeanne, some people write and talk in a way that scumbags and slime balls do not like but because of their position are kind of off limits for on going attacks.

How Bush Rules: Torture and The Quest For Unfettered Power

"We do not torture," President Bush has said time and again. But Bush has approved techniques that are defined as torture under the Geneva Conventions. In fact, he abrogated U.S. compliance with Article 3 of the Conventions that specifically prohibits torture. Indeed, his then White House counsel and now attorney general Alberto Gonzales contemptuously referred to the Conventions as "quaint."

In the infamous memo of August 1, 2002 written by the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel, the so-called "Bybee memo," after Jay Bybee, its director and since appointed by Bush to a federal judgeship, the Conventions were shoved aside and the definition revised. Rather than the Conventions stipulations against "cruel, inhumane and degrading" treatment of prisoners and "outrages upon personal dignity, in particular, humiliating and degrading treatment," the administration adopted new standards: "Physical pain amounting to torture must be equivalent to intensity to the pain accompanying serious physical injury, such as organ failure, impairment of bodily function, or even death." The Bush administration's new torture policy prompted the export of torture technique from Guantanamo to Abu Ghraib.

Bush's torture policy is a centerpiece of his effort to concentrate unfettered power in the executive, an overarching change justified by an executive order declaring that in his role as commander-in-chief in wartime he can make and enforce laws at will. In my new book, "How Bush Rules: Chronicles of a Radical Regime," I present and analyze the history of Bush's radical attempt to impose an imperial presidency.

More HERE

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Speaking of Sydney. . .

capt

#110 capt, please give me a short bio.

I am going to add Jon Stewart to the Hall of Honor.

Has this article been posted?

New Clues in the Plame Mystery
By Robert Parry

A well-placed conservative source has added an important clue to the mystery of the Bush administration's "outing" of CIA officer Valerie Plame after her husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, became one of the first Establishment figures to accuse George W. Bush of having "twisted" intelligence to justify the Iraq War.

The source, who knows both White House political adviser Karl Rove and former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, told me that the two men are much closer than many Washington insiders understand, that they developed a friendship and a working relationship when Bush was recruiting Colin Powell to be Secretary of State.

In those negotiations, Armitage stood in for Powell and Rove represented Bush - and after that, the two men provided a back channel for sensitive information to pass between the White House and the State Department, the source said.

The significance of this detail is that it undermines the current "conventional wisdom" among Washington pundits that Armitage acted alone - and innocently - in July 2003 when he disclosed Plame's covert identity to right-wing columnist Robert Novak, who then got Rove to serve as a secondary source confirming the information from Armitage.

This new revelation that Armitage and Rove worked together behind the scenes also lends credence to Novak's version of his contacts with Armitage and other administration officials, both as Novak sketched out those meetings in 2003 and then filled in the details in a column on Sept. 14, 2006.

A week after Novak revealed Plame's identity in a July 14, 2003, column, he told Newsday that "I didn't dig it out, it was given to me," adding that Bush administration officials "thought it was significant, they gave me the name and I used it." [Newsday, July 22, 2003]

...But the new information from Novak's column and my conservative source points to a very different conclusion: that Armitage was much more part of the White House team than the "conventional wisdom" understood and that Broder and other big-time pundits were snookered again.

...In other words, just as Bush's operatives were launching their smear campaign against Wilson by briefing "friendly" reporters, Armitage reversed his longstanding refusal to meet with Novak and "without explanation" granted an interview. During that interview, according to Novak, Armitage encouraged him to write about Plame's identity, much as Rove and Libby were doing with other journalists simultaneously.

After the Armitage interview, Novak got confirmation about his highly sensitive tip - a covert CIA officer's identity - from Rove, who - according to my conservative source - had been working behind the scenes sharing sensitive information with Armitage since the earliest days of the Bush administration.

Despite all that's been written on the Plame affair, there has never been an adequate explanation of why the President's political adviser would ever have been granted access to a detail as discrete and dangerous as the identity of a CIA officer, the kind of information that is traditionally disseminated only on a strict need-to-know basis.

In this case, that "need to know" may have been that the Bush administration put discrediting and damaging Joe Wilson ahead of protecting the identity of a covert officer and her undercover operation, which involved investigating the spread of dangerous weapons in the Middle East.

These new clues in the Plame mystery suggest that - contrary to Washington's "conventional wisdom" which holds that Armitage's confession clears Rove and the White House of wrongdoing - Armitage may have simply been another participant in the ugly scheme.
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Very long post...very sorry.

Jeanne, we are having our second rainstorm in the last month! We are under Stage I water restrictions (watering the yard only once a week). The rain is helping to keep my brown yard from blowing away in the wind. We'd been in a severe drought since August of 2005. The heat? It must be all those "hot Latin women" that the Governor of California is always talking about.

Don't you just love folks like "Brian" coming to Mr. Corn's blog to question his credibility. They accuse him of bias and partisan spinning. Crazy thing is they never put up any facts to dispute what he writes. Proving that he has the facts wrong would seem a prerequisite for proving that he is lacking credibility. These rightwing dingbats aren't so much for accuracy as they are for balance. They need their lies to balance the facts provided by "Reality"... given Reality's known liberal bias.

#109
That novak interview was sooooo out there. That man is very odd.

#113 Gerald, also add Bob Woodward and Fred Hiatt of the Wash. Compost.

Let share with you why I have Bishop Gumbleton and Father Dear added to the Hall of Honor.

Bishop Gumbleton is co-founder of Pax Christi USA. He is kind of a maverick and the church hierarchy has isolated him and could not wait for retirement.

Fr. Dear, I believe, lives in the Los Alamos, New Mexico area. The federal government has him under surveillance for his peace activism.

We know why David Corn is part of the Hall of Honor because he is a thorn in the side of scumbugs and slime balls. Maybe that is a key criteria for the Hall of Honor - a thorn in the side of scumbags and slime balls.

#115
Obviously Brian didn't have the same teachers I had. I had to back up my statements or my final was worthless. It could even be the right answer but if I didn't back it up with facts I didn't get he credit. Simple. So why don't they get it?

#118
Gerald,
Sort of like...Murtha.

Oh I love this title.

George Bush, Whirling Dervish
By Larry C. Johnson

... What in the hell? Bush has been on so many sides of this issue that he is giving new meaning to flip flop.

Bad enough that you HAVE Novak's book...I hope you didn't PAY for it...

I saw Robert Novak away from television and the make-up scene. He is a sad character because he really looks like someone in his 70s and he walks with a cane. He may have some health problems.

Maybe I am too much of an idealist but I feel with age should come some mellowing of character. A person should also try to be honest with himself and other people. I guess Robert Novak is too embedded with the Nazis.

#120 Jeanne, exactly!!!

Sidney Blumenthal is a former senior adviser to President Clinton

He has written (is an editor?) at Salon.com and writes for the Guardian including the "Comment is Free" blog.

October 02, 2004

All Hail Sydney Blumenthal
Posted by Lew Rockwell

When, as a Clinton aide, Sydney Blumenthal warned of a "vast, right-wing conspiracy," we all made fun of him. But he was talking about the neocon-religious right cabal, which vibrates with hatred of him. Drudge even smeared him as a wife-beater(!), and then had to retract. Drudge continues to call him "Sid Vicious."

For a taste of why the axis of evil wants to demonize him, see Blumenthal's brilliant analysis of the debate.

****

I used to think he was kind of a tool. He spoke on some issue and I was less than impressed (a decade ago) but as I read more from him I liked him better. Now I always read what he writes.

He has written some very good articles. I might be liking him better these days because he has been pissing off the right people. (Reich people)

It is a good indicator these days. I think the more people from the opposition whine and bellyache (as they have about parts of Hubris) the better it is for all of us, like free-advertising.

capt

Another criteria could be a person who really enjoys pissing off scumbags and slime balls.

#125 capt, thank you for the information and Sidney Blumenthal will be added to the Hall of Honor.

Cornposters, thank you for your help! I can barely keep my eyes open and it is time for sleep.

"Proving that he has the facts wrong would seem a prerequisite for proving that he is lacking credibility."

And there is the rub, the accusing poster impeaches himself by way of lacking any proof.

What is with some people. Do they really think because they say something we all just assume they are right?

A few of the LTSP's have come here with "prove me wrong" (spelled "PROOF me wrong") it is just too funny. Reminds me of the picture of a guy holding a sign that says "Get A Brain! Morans" - HA! The moron lacks the prerequisite spelling ability to make a point without being a oxymoron himself.

Then posts something idiotic like he thinks more than others! ROTFLMAO on that one too!

capt

Factchecker, ever hear of the blog "Powerline?" They were named Time Magazine's 2004 "blog of the year." They have this crazy Assrocket guy that's always going on about the most inane things. He's got this post from June of 2005 that has John Kerry's Form 180s. There's even some commentary about how it was obtained:
"Via the Freedom of Information Act, a reader obtained copies of the Form 180s that were recently signed by John Kerry to permit, at long last, the release of his military records. Here are the three documents that Kerry signed"

You can click and read the Form 180s and see Mr. Kerry's siggy on the dotted line.

On this post, there's some commentary about how his records are complete and have not been hidden away by some archivist to protect Mr. Kerry.

The records have been available for a long time. The reason that rightwingers have stopped writing about them is that there is nothing there that wasn't available ages ago. Turns out the Swift Boat Vets were *gasp* lying. Go figure. Even Mr. O'Neill has given up the dispute over the form 180:
"Gerstein quotes John O'Neill, who no longer raises any question about the manner in which the forms were filled out...."

You promised to leave if Caspar or I unearthed these documents? Or if we got the records themselves? I can't tell; your syntax is almost as bad as Happy's. Either way, the forms are out. Everyone's seen them. FOIs have been filed and there hasn't been a problem getting them out in the open.

I don't want you to leave. I would rather have Caspar leave. Just kidding, Chuco. We all know the kids come running when you drive into the neighborhood cause they think it's the ice cream man. Pop goes the weasel....

Factchecker, seriously. Don't go. Having you around is a sure way to make the rest of us look smarter and better-informed. We'd all like a better set of "Trolls" on this site. But as Field Marshal von Rumsfeld might say, you go to blog with the idiotic Trolls you have, not the informed, well-read adversaries that you wish you had.

I'll be out in the hill country, camping with inner-city kids for most of the week. I'm coming in for soccer practice and then heading north again. I fully expect to see you sharing your dingbatty goodness with us when I get back, Factchecker. It might bother some folks if you disappeared from the CornBlog. Then again, some folks like me would be rolling around in their den giggling their asses off. I'll give you that much. You're always good for the laughs... though not as good as the TNFs.

Nazis or "Not Sees"

Same thing I guess.

capt

As of now!

Hall of Honor

Dear Cornposters:

I am announcing a new category for worthwhile people. Recognition is given to persons who have been attacked verbally and criticized by Nazis, fascists, scumbags, slime balls, neocons, and religious right groups. The new award is called Hall of Honor. I will add more names as they become available to me and as I can recall more names. You may assist with names as well. Politicians' names are excluded because most politicians are attacked verbally and criticized by some group or groups. I am also excluding names of my foxes. They are very special and deserving of a separate place for honors and accolades. Members of the Hall of Honor are persons who are a thorn in the side of the above mentioned groups.

Here are the names of the recipients of this award.

David Corn
Bishop Thomas Gumbleton
Father John Dear
Greg Palast
Al Franken
Michael Moore
Bill Moyers
Jon Stewart
Sidney Blumenthal

Sincerely,

Gerald

Pande,

What is with the LTSP's saying "I will leave forever" or "If I am right you will never post ever again"

What is this the seventh grade yearbook club?

HA!

I know David is doing us all proud when the trolls come here and try to talk about stuff from 2004, Kerry and such. I hear that and I think about Nixon and Tea Pot Dome!

capt

I have added Glenn Greenwald to my list of regulars:

Unclaimed Territory - by Glenn Greenwald

About Me
Name:Glenn Greenwald

For the past 10 years, I was a litigator in NYC specializing in First Amendment challenges, civil rights cases, and corporate and securities fraud matters. I am the author of the New York Times Best-Selling book, How Would A Patriot Act?, a critique of the Bush administration's use of executive power, released May, 2006.

*****

GG can speak to legal issues like very few can. He can make some complicated issues easy to understand. His book is damn good too. I recommend "How Would A Patriot Act" - It will make your blood boil (at times) as he speaks to real American values and beliefs that have been trampled by these necons.

capt

Novak was not content to assail me for concocting a scandal (would if I could!);

ya i'm sure that you're looking real hard.

Death Made In America
Wondering if your conscience is still anesthetized

So we've never made the case, or argued the case that somehow Osama bin Laden [sic] was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming.
~~VICE PRESIDENT dick cheney

So the US bombed Afghanistan and killed tens of thousands of people and turned the country into a uranium hellhole on a hunch?
Obviously so, and that is why, they could never produce an ounce of proof of his complicity in the attacks.

Capt, I was wondering the exact same thing. The whole "get outta Dodge" routine is hilarious. As my sister used to say (in her High School years), "as if!"

I'm still waiting for Happy to have another hissy fit cause Spy reminded him that I helped Al Gore to invent the Internet.

Have you seen the movie "Little Miss Sunshine?" The initial setting is ABQ, I believe. It's one of those "road trip" flicks that would have made Kerouac smile. To say that the plotline is absurd is a little like saying that Factchecker has no facts. You just have to see it to appreciate its wackiness.

For Gerald's list, I suggest the following:

Al Gore
John Kerry
Jack Murtha
Corky
Capt
Jeanne
Haji
Cindy Sheehan
Corn Posters

These slime balls will Swift Boat anyone that gets in the way of their Campaign of Fear and Manipulation.

"Little Miss Sunshine?"

Not yet but will look for it.

Titchaba - Thanks!

Kind words are always the best.

capt

"Novak Slimes Me"

Anybody else get a visual of Slimer attacking Bill Murray and it does rremind me of Bob Novak - especially the sucking sound he makes and his sickening sneer?

Maybe it is just me?

capt

#138 capt, "Maybe it is just me?" Who is "slimer" (Novak???) and are you sure you have the right "Bill" there? And why the follow-up question? Do you fear you're losing your "mind"? ;-)

bush' bullying, erratic behavior spurs more GOP defections

On John Kerry:

UPDATE: The apparent anomaly in the Form 180s is that they only authorize the release of Kerry's active duty records, not his reserve records. This could well be important, in that Kerry's antiwar activities occurred when he was a member of the reserves.

THE OTHER ANOMALY IS THAT JOHN KERRY ONLY AUTHORIZED THE RELEASE OF CERTAIN RECORDS TO ONLY THE BOSTON GLOBE
The people who know, of course, are the reporters to whom the documents were sent. This is a very weird procedure--authorizing the records to be released, but only to specified reporters. It raises obvious questions: did the reporters discuss their role with Kerry or his representative before they were designated to receive the records? Were they required to agree not to make the records public, but only to report on them? What other discussions did they have with Kerry or his representatives? Are they willing to release the records, or at a minimum give an inventory of what they received so that people can assess the completeness of the disclosure?

MR. PANDEMONIAC, PLEASE REFRAIN FROM EVER POSTING HERE AGAIN.

PANDEMONIAC, ARE YOU STUPID, GULLIBLE, OR BOTH?

Did Kerry really release Navy records?

June 9