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September 19, 2006

New Thread...No Mention of Novak

I've been busy working on several stories today, pitching the book (I hope you saw the C-SPAN show), and spending time with an out-of-town friend. I'll be back on Tuesday sometime. In the meantime, continue comments on this new thread.

Posted by David Corn at September 19, 2006 12:36 AM

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Yes i saw the show this morning. Thanks for making me late for work!!!

Good Job

Posted by: KR at September 19, 2006 12:41 AM

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Gore Calls For Immediate Freeze on C02 Emissions, Elimination of Payroll Taxes

Today, Former Vice President Al Gore gave a major speech on global warming at NYU law. Notably, he called for an immediate freeze on CO2 emissions:

Well, first of all, we should start by immediately freezing CO2 emissions and then beginning sharp reductions. Merely engaging in high-minded debates about theoretical future reductions while continuing to steadily increase emissions represents a self-delusional and reckless approach. In some ways, that approach is worse than doing nothing at all, because it lulls the gullible into thinking that something is actually being done when in fact it is not.

An immediate freeze has the virtue of being clear, simple, and easy to understand. It can attract support across partisan lines as a logical starting point for the more difficult work that lies ahead.

Gore also called for the complete elimination of the payroll tax. It would be replaced by a tax on CO2:

For the last fourteen years, I have advocated the elimination of all payroll taxes including those for social security and unemployment compensation and the replacement of that revenue in the form of pollution taxes principally on CO2. The overall level of taxation would remain exactly the same. It would be, in other words, a revenue neutral tax swap. But, instead of discouraging businesses from hiring more employees, it would discourage business from producing more pollution.

Gore concludes:

This is an opportunity for bipartisanship and transcendence, an opportunity to find our better selves and in rising to meet this challenge, create a better brighter future a future worthy of the generations who come after us and who have a right to be able to depend on us.

Read the full text of the speech HERE.


More HERE

*****end of clip*****

Watch out! Here comes Gore. Sounds more like a fresh idea than a retread.

I have posted before that no politician talks about eliminating payroll taxes, I have been humbled and corrected.

capt

Posted by: capt at September 19, 2006 12:43 AM

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I enjoyed watching you on C-SPAN yesterday. I thought you were excellent. Once you found your pace, you spoke confidently and with humor. Thanks for leaving the Novak thread up all day. I'm sure you had many more visitors here after they showed it twice on C-SPAN.

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 19, 2006 12:48 AM

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I forgot to mention, LBH is afraid of Islam and Happy's reading HUBRIS with his ideological reading glasses on. Every word passes through the lens of ideology whereupon opinion rules and fact is disregarded. I think he needs a new pair of glasses.

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 19, 2006 12:52 AM

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I agree. David, you did a fine job on C-span.

Posted by: Alan at September 19, 2006 12:53 AM

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Forgive the Happy guy, he's got republican's disease. To him, if it don't make dollars, it don't make sense.

Posted by: Alan at September 19, 2006 12:55 AM

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cont. from last thread -
islamofascist is that the new code word for towel-head? now we have to get the islamofascists before they get us? is it the war on islamofascism now? so who is considered to be an islamofascist, saddam or the taliban? they are worlds apart idealogically yet they are both the enemy.

you are either with us or you are with the terrorist
~bush

this new term islamofascists might actually have some merit except for one small detail: the u.s. is backing the islamic extremist terrorist groups in syria against the secular syrian govt.
who is the terrorist now?

it is just the next chapter in 'whitey has the stick'

Posted by: fatty was had! at September 19, 2006 01:17 AM

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It figures; as soon as I get done writing a comment, a new thread opens. Apologies if you've already read it:

Off-topic, but I must share. I just returned from seeing Roger Waters at the Palace. Fan-fucking-tastic. He played songs from as far back as Piper at the Gates of Dawn, along with selections from Wish You Were Here, Animals and The Wall for the first hour before performing Dark Side of the Moon in it's entirety. The stage show was what one would usually expect from Pink Floyd, and the huge band was TIGHT.

The show was at times politically provocative. The flying pig appeared during "Sheep," and it was covered with political graffiti: "Don't be led to the slaughter: Vote in November!" as well as an "Impeach Bush" on the pig's rear. Images of Bush in his "Mission Accomplished" codpiece appeared on the screen during "Eclipse" (as Waters sang the lyric All you destroy).

Perhaps the most daring moment was when Waters performed his new song, "Leaving Beirut." As a young man, Waters was picked up hitch-hiking in Lebanon by a poor man who took him home and treated him as an honored guest. Waters uses the experience to frame a song in which the lyrics strongly castigate Blair, Bush, and US/UK policy in the Middle East.

There was an uncomfortable silence as the band played (what we thought were) the song's final notes. There was some scattered applause and a few negative shouts, one of them from a guy near us who appeared to be about 40 ("YOU SUCK!" - some things never change!). Fortunately, the song had a short guitar coda, and when it was finally finished, the applause overwhelmed any jeers. Personally, I thought the song's lyrics were somewhat forced and clunky. However, I could certainly appreciate the passion.

I do wonder, though, about the people who saw fit to boo the song. Do they listen to Pink Floyd? Don't they have any clue what kind of man Roger Waters is? After all, this is the guy who wrote:

Forward he cried from the rear
And the front rank died
And the generals sat, and the lines on the map
Moved from side to side

- "Us and Them"
Dark Side of the Moon

Anyway, it was an awesome show. Oh, and I got the tee with the silkscreened b/w photo of a young Waters jammin' on the bass. So cool!

Posted by: Don at September 19, 2006 01:17 AM

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Well, I'm not letting someone off the hook. Since there's a new thread, I'm re-posting:

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#343 My dear, I have been to Lebanon, Israel, Turkey, Somalia, Kenya, Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Jordan, Indonesia, China, and numerous other interesting -- and hospitable, at one time -- places around the globe. Have you? I have a distinct impression you see the world through the foggy lens of Bishop, CA, which I believe even you have described as a redneck area. You should get out more.

Posted by: caroline at September 19, 2006 12:51 AM
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David, I have read your book and donated it to my local public library. I was so tempted to highlight and underline, but wanted to keep it pristine for other readers. The library was thrilled with the additional copy because, in my area, your book is on a waitlist!

Thank you for doing all that you can.

I genuinely appreciate it.

Posted by: caroline at September 19, 2006 01:18 AM

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David,

Yeah you are being slimed, but I think it is diversion. Look for what they are up to.

When they throw this much crap at a reporter the intent is to divert said reporter from an investigation of their latest neffarious plot.

Hell, Im starting to think the Pope works for the Administration.

Did it just seem to ol Ratsy that this would be a nifty time to heat up the Middle East? What the Hell?

He calls their faith violent and in protest they threaten executions and torture and all manner of nastiness.("how dare you call us violent, we will Kill you!). You can just smell the singing irony. (Very Rovian).

There but for the Grace of GOD....go....whom?

Posted by: titchaba at September 19, 2006 01:56 AM

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Speaking of apt songs, check out Paul Simon's Pigs, Sheep and Wolves.

Thinly veiled political satire I think and a damn good lyric.

Posted by: titchaba at September 19, 2006 01:59 AM

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Don, way to go. Pink Floyd is awesome in concert!

Posted by: Alan at September 19, 2006 02:04 AM

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Hello Mr. Corn,
You are obiously receiving credit for all of the unemployed posters who feel it is their crusade to post article after article in the comments section. Surely these chronic posters like capt must be on the payroll of the White House...who else would go to the trouble of trying to make you look like a barely sane crackpot?

Posted by: True Patriot at September 19, 2006 05:58 AM

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From a previous blog! #364 fatty was had!, America is stockpiling bio-chemical diseases that could kill millions of people. PNAC must be elated that their goal to eliminate 6 billion people is becoming a reality. Did the Nazi USA government taint the spinach in California with ecoli?

I have added Barbara Ehrenreich to my list of foxes. She is an author and a writer.

George Warmongering Bush's popularity is rising. He will top out at 70% by election day November 7, 2006, guaranteeing a landslide victory for the Nazi Party and those security moms and NASCAR dads. Fear and ignorance dominates American politics. It is just a reminder for you that I predicted a landslide victory for the Nazi Party in 2006!!!

With the Nazis total domination in American politics more Americans and the world population will be killed off through Nazi America's stockpiling of bio-chemical weapons!!! Sleep well Americans with the Nazis watching over you!!! You must be comfortable with those endless warm fuzzies? Death and destruction through the American way will always be close to you!!!

If you hate and love murders and war crimes, you must love America very deeply and feel totally glorified!!!

Posted by: Gerald at September 19, 2006 06:39 AM

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Fear Watch

Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rummy, Rove. Over the last five years, this Murderers' Row of home run-for-your-life hitters has already guaranteed itself a place in the Fear-Mongering Hall of Shame with Ruthian blasts of pulse-quickening, anxiety-inducing Red Alert rhetoric. Call them the Sultans of Cold Sweat.

Posted by: Gerald at September 19, 2006 06:49 AM

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From Fear Watch!

As if that weren't portentous enough, the president followed up with this leap into the dread end zone at his press conference on Friday: "It's a dangerous world. I wish it wasn't that way. I wish I could tell the American people, don't worry about it, they're not coming again. But they are coming again." No word as to why we are always being reminded of the terrorists' imminent arrival just before elections.

Fearful and ignorant Americans are a home run hitting combination.

Posted by: Gerald at September 19, 2006 06:54 AM

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Who do you think belongs in the Fear-Mongering Hall of Shame -- and why?

I love Arianna's name for the Nazis - THE SULTANS OF COLD SWEAT!!!

Posted by: Gerald at September 19, 2006 06:58 AM

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Who will ever forget the Sultans of Cold Sweat in 2006?

Karl Rovian Blasts Rove of bullshit and the defaming of human beings!

Rummy You Go with What You Have Rumsfeld, the dummy!

Condi Boots Rice, a mushroom cloud soup in every Americans' kitchen!

Chainey The President, I would do it again!

Honest George Warmongering Bush, I want every American to look upon me as their father.

Yes, who will ever forget the Sultans of Cold Sweat in 2006?

Posted by: Gerald at September 19, 2006 07:11 AM

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True Patriot,

I hadn't even considered your scenario, and yet it is the most plausible, the most tenable.

Some/most of the nutjob posters here simply must be on Rove's payroll. They were retained to make the Left look as silly and sophomoric and naive as possible. And what an incredibly brilliant job they are performing.

And so, Gerald and the Good Captain and all the other stealth warmongering, capitalists/imperialists, I salute you.

Your words and actions are what will help retain Republican leadership for a thousand years. The Republicans are sometimes/often horrific, but you are far worse in comparison.

Thank you for your valiant service to our country. Your appearance as the buffoon in the pursuit of liberty is a noble effort.


Posted by: factchecker at September 19, 2006 09:11 AM

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Mr. Corn you are indeed a nasty piece of work as Mr. Novak has so rightly pointed out. You are a left wing ideologue who makes it his habit to besmirch others with little or no proof. Your journalism skills are severely lacking as you never seem to care about facts or perspective. You and you alone are responsible for the false impression you created of an administration bent on revenge. The whole world can now see who had a grudge and who abused his power to get someone. It was you abusing your position as a journalist to falsely accuse an administration of the crimes even you are now forced to admit were purposeful lies. I ask you sir, Do the ends always justify the means? How far are you willing to sell out in order to hurt Bush? America?

Posted by: john Diamond at September 19, 2006 09:50 AM

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AHHHRRGGG!! the scurvy trolls have boarded ye vessel! Raise the yardarm! Set the plank! stow the wenches! These swine will be sent down to Davy Jones locker!

It is "Talk like a Pirate Day"afterall, Arrrgghhh!

Posted by: DEN at September 19, 2006 09:54 AM

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Arrrgghhh!

Posted by: Carrie at September 19, 2006 09:54 AM

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# 388 Caroline (previous thread)
# 9 Caroline (this thread)

Caroline your use of the term "redneck" is over the top. The use of "redneck" is often used in a derogatory way. You might think about getting out more yourself and interact with the people that many would classify as "redneck". Many of the local people in southeastern Ohio that I have interacted(and learn from) with know more about politics and the rest of the world than the students on the campus here in Athens.

While not formally educated many local people in this area know a great deal about the history of the unions,
mechanics, the woods, timber, farming, etc. etc.

The attitude that locals often called "rednecks" know less is repeated so often that many of the people I talk with (and learn from) believe it about themselves.


Posted by: kathleen at September 19, 2006 10:00 AM

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Israel is in violation of more UN resolutions than any other nation......The whole world is witness to this hypocrisy. And we wonder why people in the middle east are pissed!

Mr. Bush, What about Israel's defiance of UN Resolutions?
An Open Letter to George W. Bush by Michael S. Ladah & Suleiman I. Ajlouni
Dear Mr. President:

As we watched your speech to the United Nations General Assembly on September 12, 2002, we were struck by the ironic proximity of the Israeli and Iraqi delegations. Ironic, because many of the accusations you leveled against Iraq could, with ample justification, be directed toward Israel.

We commend you for calling upon the United Nations to prove its relevance in keeping peace and harmony among nations in todayÕs world. In order to maintain United States credibility in the international arena, we expect that you and the United Nations would apply to Israel the same standards of compliance with provisions of the UN Charter. The Israeli leadership continues to defy countless UN resolutions pertaining to its policies and military tactics of the past 35 years.

Accountability and our nationÕs credibility require that Israel be forced to comply with international law, especially if the United States continues to press its case against Iraq.

During the period between 1967 and 2000, Iraq was the subject of 69 Security Council resolutions. By comparison, Israel, our closest "ally" in the Middle East, has been the subject of 138 resolutions. Not surprisingly, most of those resolutions call upon Israel to comply with basic principles of international law embodied by the UN Charter. Many of them condemn actions taken by Israel and call upon Israel on more than one occasion to comply with previous resolutions that Israel ignored and continues to ignore to this day.

On June, 14, 1967, through Resolution No. 237, the Security Council called upon Israel to "ensure the safety, welfare and security of the inhabitants, facilitate the return of those inhabitants who have fled the areas since the outbreak of the hostilities and recommends the scrupulous respect of the humanitarian principles contained in the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949." In subsequent resolutions, the Security Council deplored Israel for the delay in its implementation of Resolution 237. Yet, Israel continued to defy the world community, including the United States. The Security Council, in the face of Israel's defiance, passed no less than five subsequent resolutions demanding that Israel comply but to this day, thirty five years after June 14, 1967, the defiance continues.

On March 22, 1979, the Security Council adopted Resolution No. 446. IsraelÕs violation of Resolution 446 (sections quoted below) represents the most flagrant violation of Israel, not only of the UN but also the stated policy of our government under successive administrations

@media matters

Posted by: kathleen at September 19, 2006 10:03 AM

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"The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do."

- Samuel P. Huntington




Posted by: kathleen at September 19, 2006 10:08 AM

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This is just the beginning of the list of Un resolutions that Israel continues to be in violation of..List is at Media Monitors.


Pertinent United Nations Security Council Resolutions Since 1967 As They Relate to Israel

233 6 June 1967 Calls for an immediate cease-fire and cessation of all military activities.
234 7 June 1967 Demands a cease-fire.
237 14 June 1967 Calls upon the Government of Israel to ensure the safety, welfare and security of the inhabitants, facilitate the return of those inhabitants who have fled the areas since the outbreak of the hostilities and recommends the scrupulous respect of the humanitarian principles contained in the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949.
242 22 Nov 1967 Affirms that the fulfillment of Charter principles requires the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East which should include: withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict; and termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force.
248 24 Mar 1968 Deplores the loss of life and heavy damage to property. Condemns the military action launched by Israel in flagrant violation of the U.N. Charter and the cease-fire resolution. Calls upon Israel to desist from acts or activities in contravention of resolution 237 (1967). (This was an attack against Karameh, Jordan.)
250 27 Apr 1968 Calls upon Israel to refrain from holding the military parade in Jerusalem which is contemplated for 2 May 1968.
251 2 May 1968 Deeply deplores the holding by Israel of the military parade in Jerusalem on 2 May 1968 in disregard of the unanimous decision adopted by the Council on 27 April 1968.
252 21 May 1968 Deplores the failure of Israel to comply with General Assembly resolutions 2253 (ES-V) and 2254 (ES-V) of 4 and 14 July 1967. Considers that all legislative and administrative measures taken by Israel, including the expropriation of land and properties thereon, which tend to change the legal status of Jerusalem, are invalid and cannot change the status. Urgently calls upon Israel to rescind all such measures taken and to desist from further actions changing the status of Jerusalem.
259 27 Sept 1968 Deplores the delay in implementation of resolution 237 (1967) because of the conditions still being set by Israel for receiving a Special Representative of the Secretary-General. Requests the Secretary-General to urgently dispatch a Special Representative to the Arab territories under military occupation by Israel following the hostilities of 5 June 1967 and to report on the implementation of resolution 237 (1967).
267 3 Jul 1969 Reaffirms the established principle that the acquisition of territory by military conquest is inadmissible. Deplores the failure of Israel to show any regard for the resolutions of the General Assembly and the Security Council. Censures in the strongest terms all measures taken to change the status of the city of Jerusalem. Urgently calls once more on Israel to rescind all measures taken by it to change the status of Jerusalem and in the future to refrain from all actions likely to have such an effect

THE LIST IS LONG...

Posted by: kathleen at September 19, 2006 10:14 AM

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Arrrrrr mateys! I see through my spyglass, humor dead ahead, arrr, tis the REDNECK scoundrel, prepare to board his vessel!

GO HERE

Enter http://davidcorn.com, in the url box and get ready to laugh yer azz off! Arrr, thats all!

Posted by: DEN at September 19, 2006 10:17 AM

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uncledad from previous thread, I was trying to point out the hypocrisy of blaming religion in general, what I said was referring to "members" of certain religions, christians in that case, committing murder as opposed to blaming the entire group. I'm sorry if I was unclear. I am just so fed up with being accused of anti-semitism, a slanderous accusation, when I have spent considerable time expressing support and sympathy for the abused semitic people of the middle east. How the neocon Zionist govt. of Israel managed to gain a monopoly on the term "Semite" is beyond me. But it has apparently worked. Caroline, you never had me on a hook. Everytime you pass a judgement on me you betray your bias. Think what you want, it doesn't bother me. Yes, I see everything through the lense of Bishop and I have never been anywhere else so I don't have a clue what is happening in the world and everyone is a redneck. If you think it, it MUST be true, oh yeh, I'm an anti-semite too don't forget.

Posted by: Saladin at September 19, 2006 10:22 AM

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I just happened upon your website. I never heard of you ( your name) before. Which office are you running for?

Posted by: MICHAEL at September 19, 2006 10:22 AM

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ARRGH! he be running for the little office with the china chair! GAR!

Posted by: DEN at September 19, 2006 10:26 AM

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Aye, the porceline porthole. Thar she BLOWS!

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 19, 2006 10:31 AM

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Kathleen, when I hear the term "redneck" I imagine a very racist, ill-educated cowboy who drives around in a battered pick-up truck with several shotguns and rifles hanging in the back window, and ALWAYS votes Republican, no matter what, because they think that is the party of the people! And believe me, a large chunk of my little town is made up of people just like that. California may be a blue state, but most of the outlying towns are as red as can be. Fortunately, the people here are exceedingly friendly, give you the shirt off their backs kind of folks. I wouldn't live anywhere else. Besides, we have, in my opinion, the most beautiful mountain range in the world for our back yard. What more could a person want?

Posted by: Saladin at September 19, 2006 10:33 AM

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Kathleen, I suggest you read for content. I didn't call anyone a redneck. I referred to the fact that Saladin had used that term in the past, but I did not chastize her for using it. Besides, even if she used it to refer to some people in her area, I certainly didn't take it as a disparaging remark about the Southern rural labor class, which is where the term had its origin. She doesn't live in the South. She lives in the West. I never, for a moment, thought she used the word in a disparaging manner. In some places in the south, I know people who refer to themselves as "rednecks" as a sign of personal pride in their beliefs and attitudes. Some believe the term stems from the use of red bandanas tied around the neck to signify union affiliation during the violent clashes between United Mine Workers and owners in the early 1900s.

In any event, I didn't refer to anyone as a redneck.

Posted by: caroline at September 19, 2006 10:36 AM

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Ahoy! You landlubbers!

GO HERE Git yer pirate lessons.

Posted by: DEN at September 19, 2006 10:38 AM

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Revealed: the tough interrogation techniques the CIA wants to use

Ed Pilkington in New York and Clare Dyer
Monday September 18, 2006
The Guardian


Details emerged yesterday about the seven interrogation techniques the CIA is seeking to be allowed to apply to terror suspects. Newsweek magazine reported that a New York lawyer, Scott Horton, who has acted as an adviser to the US senate on interrogation methods, had acquired a list of the techniques. The details were corroborated by information obtained by the charity Human Rights Watch.

READ MORE (link)

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 19, 2006 10:42 AM

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White House soiree: Boortz, Hannity, Gallagher, Medved and Ingraham were reportedly invited to meet with Bush in the Oval Office

In a September 16 posting on his weblog, nationally syndicated radio host Neal Boortz wrote that he had been invited to "the West Wing of the White House" for a "30-minute meeting with the President in the Oval Office [which] turned into 90 minutes." Boortz added that the "other invitees were [conservative radio hosts] Sean Hannity, Mike Gallagher, Michael Medved and Laura Ingraham." As the weblog Think Progress noted, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported in a September 17 posting on its website that conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh has been invited to the meeting but could not attend.

Below, are examples of some noteworthy comments, previously documented by Media Matters for America, from each of the recent guests who reportedly visited the White House:

Neal Boortz

On the August 3 edition of his radio show, Boortz asked his audience, "[H]ow incompetent, how ignorant, how worthless is an adult that can't earn more than the minimum wage?" Boortz continued: "You have to really, really, really be a pretty pathetic human being to not be able to earn more than ... the minimum wage."

READ MORE (link)

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 19, 2006 10:49 AM

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Caroline I hear some strong inferences in your comment

#343 "My dear, I have been to Lebanon, Israel, Turkey, Somalia, Kenya, Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Jordan, Indonesia, China, and numerous other interesting -- and hospitable, at one time -- places around the globe. Have you? I have a distinct impression you see the world through the foggy lens of Bishop, CA, which I believe even you have described as a redneck area. You should get out more."

I am going to drop this, although I really believe that these terms are still used by many in a derogatory way.


Posted by: kathleen at September 19, 2006 10:50 AM

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DEN, I want a skull and crossbone cup!

Posted by: Saladin at September 19, 2006 10:50 AM

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Center for Constitutional Rights Today:

Under two military commission bills currently being considered in the Senate, all of these men would no longer be able to contest their detentions in U.S. court. Both bills contain provisions that would retroactively strip U.S. courts of jurisdiction over the habeas petitions of the more than 450 men currently imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay. In addition, the courts would also be barred from hearing the habeas petitions of any future detainees. A simple determination that someone-even a U.S. citizen taken into custody abroad-is an 'enemy combatant' would be enough to detain them indefinitely.

Habeas Corpus is under direct attack from this bunch of neo-con thugs!

Read more here.

Posted by: DEN at September 19, 2006 10:51 AM

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Bush's IRS vs. All Saints Episcopal Church
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Shortly before the 2004 presidential election, the Rev. George F. Regas, the former rector of All Saints Episcopal Church in Pasadena, told his congregation about his perspective on the president and the war in Iraq. Regas imagined Jesus participating in a political debate with Bush and Kerry and said that "good people of profound faith" could vote for either man.

He added, however, that he imagined Jesus telling Bush, "Mr. President, your doctrine of preemptive war is a failed doctrine. Forcibly changing the regime of an enemy that posed no imminent threat has led to disaster." The comments prompted the IRS to launch an aggressive investigation into the church's alleged partisan conduct — which turn out to be one of the more provocative church-state conflicts in quite a while.

A liberal Pasadena church facing an IRS investigation over alleged politicking sounded a defiant note Sunday, with its leaders and many congregants saying the probe amounted to an assault on their constitutional rights and that they were inclined to defy the agency's request for documents.

(link)

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 19, 2006 10:51 AM

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GAR! the cup is a worthy teasure!

Posted by: DEN at September 19, 2006 10:54 AM

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President Bush's speech at the Un at C-span. Iranian President Ahminijad speech at Cspan/6:30 6:30

Posted by: kathleen at September 19, 2006 10:54 AM

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Kathleen, I refer to some miners as land pirates, is that an offense against pirates? I mean no offense against anyone, why are people so sensitive? You can hardly blink without offending someone nowadays. SHEESH!

Posted by: Saladin at September 19, 2006 10:54 AM

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September 18, 2006
Why did ABC run the money-losing 9/11 series?

People have been have been wondering why ABC ran their money-losing, credibility-destroying 9/11 series. I don't think that there's any mystery.

I've said this many time in many places, but I think that in most of the media, the financial management makes the political-coverage decisions for operations management. Tax breaks and deregulation moves can make an enormous difference on a big company's bottom line, and the Republicans deliver.

We know that the Scaife, Moon, and Murdoch operations are ideologically right-wing, but the non-ideological media operations all have Republican financial interests.

It's a mistake zeroing in on individual writers and editors. The problem is at the highest management level. The flunkies whose names you know are just doing what's expected of them.

Graham at the Post and Sulzberger at the Times both chair both boards -- the financial board and the operations board. The financial board rules.

I've been saying this for a year and a half, and no one's picked up on it -- not even as a discussion topic. People are afraid of Graham and Sulzberger, I think.


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Posted by: O'Reilly at September 19, 2006 10:57 AM

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Wal-mart reaches out to employees in upcoming elections

The nation's largest retailer and biggest employer, Wal-Mart, will begin a program next week that will provide voter registration and educational materials to the company's 1.3 million employees, the Capitol Hill newspaper The Hill is reporting. The Arkansas-based company has come under fire from labor union and Democratic leaders over issues such as hourly wages, legal status of employees, and benefits given to the company's workers.

Democratic politicians including Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) have criticized Wal-Mart and its personnel policies. Wal-Mart representatives insist that the campaign is non-partisan.

Wal-Mart's voter registration and education programs could be among the biggest in the country, though not as big as those of its labor union opponents. The AFL-CIO, for example, has nearly 13 million members.

The company's decision appears to be a response to several high-profile Democrats, including Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and four 2008 Democratic presidential hopefuls, who participated in a labor-organized anti-Wal-Mart campaign this summer.
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Wal-Mart does NOTHING without a look at the bottom line. This company expects its traveling employees to STEAL pens from hotels to bring back to the corporate headquarters. And now, all of a sudden, they are interested in taking time and money to push for voter registration and greater voter turnout. Hmmm.

Posted by: Jeanne at September 19, 2006 10:57 AM

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Who's the Next Target in the Abramoff Probe?
Friday, Sep. 15, 2006

Former Ohio Congressman Bob Ney has admitted his role in Washington's influence-peddling scandal, but prosecutors still have other politicians in their sights

By ADAM ZAGORIN/WASHINGTON

After months of defiant protestations of innocence about his role in the Jack Abramoff influence-peddling scandal, Rep. Bob Ney, R-Ohio, has pleaded guilty to making false statements, to conspiracy to commit fraud and violating post-employment restrictions for former congressional aides. But the probe into the lobbying scandal is far from wrapped up.

A source close to the investigation told TIME that scores of US prosecutors and FBI agents continue to examine the activities of other sitting members of Congress and prominent individuals who could face prosecution, though not necessarily before the November 7 election. The source confirmed previous public reports that particular scrutiny is being paid to Sen. Conrad Burns, a Montana Republican who faces a tough campaign for reelection.

"A lot of the conduct to which Ney has pleaded guilty is similar to the alleged conduct of Senator Conrad Burns and his staff," points out Melanie Sloan, Executive Director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW), a non-profit watch dog group. "Abramoff has said that Burns and his staff used Signatures (Abramoff's restaurant) like their cafeteria.

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Posted by: O'Reilly at September 19, 2006 10:59 AM

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Yep, reich wingnuts with their buffoon for a president continue to lash others with their mindless support of the zionist regime that is dragging the US into an unwinnable war in the ME> Great stuff, and calling someone that hasn't traveled as lacking somehow is typical. Traveling doesn't make you worldly, I too have traveled and actually lived abroad for more than a decade, where do you think the word ugly american originated. It is from really stupid american tourists thinking that because they are spending money in a country they have a right to ignore local customs and traditions because they are americans, which brings us to a word, Hubris, read the book, and quit calling people out for expressing their opinion. No matter where it comes from clarity of vision is not something you gain from travleing but from introspection and insight, you can have that living in Bishop or anywhere else, it might even be called intellect. Intelligence and some higher form of education. So if you think that anyone with an opinon of the redneck hordes in the US that are all republican, all the time, all conservative even though they cannot define or hardly spell it. Mostly they are brain washed indoctrinated bible thumpers, that couldn't find their way out of their own cavern of stupidity if they had a guide. Geez once again missing the point there, it isn't what you call people it is what disaster this criminal administration had in store for us. Do you seriously think that because you foam at the mouth and blather all of their talking points that you will be in a better position when they come to take you to the labor camps. I can hear you all the way "I am on your side" and then the door slams. Yup, stupid is as stupid does and sometimes speaks without thinking is a form of stupid, but hey don't take it personally it is meant as a general observation of the brain dead part of the US population and they are getting bigger, because they reproduce and inbreed. Dumb americans the real threat. Enjoy your new lifestyle, it won't be long now.

Posted by: What the F**k at September 19, 2006 11:00 AM

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Saladin I challenge you to listen closely to how often people use the term "redneck" carelessly.

Posted by: kathleen at September 19, 2006 11:02 AM

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#67 O'Reilly. Dennis Hastert

Posted by: kathleen at September 19, 2006 11:05 AM

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"...I have a distinct impression you see the world through the foggy lens of Bishop, CA,..."

puh-thetic

They've got this Brewery/Restarant in Bishop CA. I believe they have a library, too.

I STILL have never met a Bushbot in either a Library or a Brew-Pub.

I have many relatives and friends whose travels never took them much past their own particular "holler", but whose intellect rivals that of the most seasoned voyagers.

Sure...they may often have more fingers and toes than the normal allotment, but that sure makes the banjo pickin' easier!

While broad-brushes are bad enough for painting people, the wide-nozzel spraying is even more inaccurate!

-T

Posted by: Hajji at September 19, 2006 11:10 AM

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Some people don't seem to realize that traveling requires large sums of money that not everyone has access to. I have traveled enough to have seen horrid poverty and bottomless apathy as well as lives blessed with love and peace. What I haven't experienced I have tried to make up for with extensive reading and research. I know many people who have been around the world but are so wrapped up with their own selfish interests that they may as well have stayed home because they learned nothing.

Posted by: Saladin at September 19, 2006 11:12 AM

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Ultimately, the struggle over the Sept. 18 authorization - and how the U.S. fights terrorists in general - is a battle between competing visions of American democracy. The Constitution establishes the courts as a check on power and Congress as a means to oversee, restrain and improve executive conduct. In a radical departure, Mr. Bush rejects that American tradition. He primarily sees Congress and the courts as a barrier to effective national security. (The administration?s 2005 report on National Defense Strategy even predicts American "judicial processes" will become a weapon of choice for our enemies.)

Yet recent history in the fight against terrorists demonstrates the opposite. The vulnerabilities exploited by the 9/11 hijackers came to light only when a congressionally mandated commission scrutinized the executive branch. The Abu Ghraib trials are supposed to advance accountability, legitimacy and order in the military. And recent congressional investigations helped expose the faulty intelligence on weapons of mass destruction and the waste and graft in defense spending.

Five years after Congress authorized force to destroy the perpetrators of 9/11, Osama bin Laden and other al-Qaida leaders remain at large. It is a tragic irony that President Bush spent years embellishing the Sept. 18 authorization to cover new targets and illegal actions, yet failed to catch the enemy the authorization was meant to destroy.

In public and in court, the administration still claims it got a blank check on Sept. 18, 2001. But it is now clear that Congress did not write a blank check - the president forged it.

(link)

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 19, 2006 11:13 AM

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Kathleen, to tell you the truth I very rarely ever hear the term "redneck." I suppose some would call ME a redneck because I live in this little backwood town, but it wouldn't bother me, it would just make me laugh. Hajji and WTF, thank you for chiming in, I seem to have the knack for getting under some peoples skin! Can't please everyone.

Posted by: Saladin at September 19, 2006 11:17 AM

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I finally got to see David's appearance on Washingtoon Journal this morning. (Jill's working nights, now, as a "Hospitalist" at our #2 Health Ctr, so I'm forbidden from runing any power-tools while she's sleeping.)

David's composure and FACTUAL information-backed responses to ALL questions posed was quite professional. "Anna" from Ohio...was that YOU Kathleen?

I think it must've been one of the "Tims" posing as "Earl from OK"! He sure driveled like like one.

-T

-T


Posted by: Hajji at September 19, 2006 11:21 AM

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Paul Wolfowitz( sure slipped out the back door)
World Bank: President
Department of Defense: Former Deputy Secretary
Project for the New American Century: Founding Member August 9, 2006
As president of the World Bank, Paul Wolfowitz, former No. 2 at the Pentagon and a leading proponent of the Iraq War, has won both praise and criticism. He has badgered the United States and other wealthy countries to cut subsidies to aid development in poorer countries, fervently pursued anti-corruption policies, and announced moves aimed at strengthening the bank's internal watchdog, the Department of Institutional Integrity (Inter Press Service, April 18, 2006).

While his anti-corruption program, which has resulted in the suspension of loans to a number of countries due to allegations of corruption, has been widely applauded by U.S. politicians, some observers have called it a self-serving effort to distance himself from the controversies associated with his tenure in the Pentagon. He has also been criticized for his reported intention of expanding World Bank operations in Iraq. Antonia Juhasz, author of a recent book on the Bush administration's economic agenda, told the Inter Press Service: Ò†or him to be in a position to preach what good governance should be in Iraq seems highly hypocriticalÓ (April 18, 2006).



Posted by: kathleen at September 19, 2006 11:27 AM

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Saladin I believe you are in denial about the insensitivity and use of this term. You can stay in denial or take the challenge and really listen to how often it is used in a negative way.

Posted by: kathleen at September 19, 2006 11:29 AM

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Kofi Anan addressing (on cspan) how the Israeli/Palestinian conflict effects the middle east..he is telling the truth.

Posted by: kathleen at September 19, 2006 11:32 AM

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Hajji

Anna I am I am.

Posted by: kathleen at September 19, 2006 11:34 AM

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Posted by: Saladin at September 19, 2006 11:35 AM

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Whoops! What happen to my link? Snopes

Kathleen, I am done with that subject now. You're calling ME insensitive? For God's sake.

Posted by: Saladin at September 19, 2006 11:40 AM

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chernobyl revisited

hey iran can have their very own chernobyl! all we have to do is destroy their nuclear power station that they've been trying to build for decades now with the help of cheney's halliburton et al.
when the sanctions against iran started a long time ago halliburton strenuously objected and insisted that since they had a p.o. box located in the caymans they should be exempt from the sanctions placed on iran. (go team!)
iran has one of the highest grades of oil on the planet and if they were assisted in their efforts to build a nuclear power plant they would probably be more than happy to sell their highest-grade oil to the u.s.

but better that we pretend they are the scourge of the universe and bomb the holy fuck out of them so that carlyle et al can continue to make their billions by playing both sides with their sales of weapons.

Posted by: fatty was had! at September 19, 2006 11:49 AM

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"You called me a redneck. No, you said jew-hater. No, you are close-minded. No, listen to yourself. Now, you can't say anything without offending someone. No listen to yourself."

Ladies, Ladies. No wrestling without a mud pit, a jello bath and bikinis, or naked in foam. Ground rules!

Posted by: Tim at September 19, 2006 11:50 AM

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177 (Toensing thread)

Corn is awfully long and defensive in his recent postings,.....

But, Corn probably will come out fine and have a successful book. I can't read it.....

Posted by: brian at September 17, 2006 11:12 PM
================================================
brian, I've enjoyed reading your comments!

A `Regular' Corn blogger from our side of the aisle, I want to tell you and all Conservatives NOT disposed to buying/reading HUBRIS, my thoughts on David's book and to put in a plug for it! Why?

1) HUBRIS goes into substantial details on the workings of our government on the new Post-9/11 paradigm of mounting a preemptive war. There likely are other similar books but HUBRIS is hot off the press.
2) For politically-minded, the behind-the-scene jockying behind was fun to read.
3) For the spy novel lovers, there are plenty of twists & turns, along with the comedies of incompetence found in the old `spy vs. spy' cartoons.
4) For those reluctant to give your money to Corn/Isikoff, realize that with the book at $18, just a few bucks will be split among the authors. If buying is still objectionable, go to your library!
5) Lastly, as a measure of my appreciation for DavidCorn.com's Open Door policy that give Conservatives an open forum in hostile (but often juvenile) territory!

(PS: HUBRIS is NOT all based on facts! Out of authors' necessity to `connect the dots' from the extensive research and interviews, they took plenty of liberty in making assumptions that seem plausible or reasonable....but NOT factual in the strictest sense.)

Posted by: Happy plugs HUBRIS at September 19, 2006 11:50 AM

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(PS: HUBRIS is NOT all based on facts! Out of authors' necessity to `connect the dots' from the extensive research and interviews, they took plenty of liberty in making assumptions that seem plausible or reasonable....but NOT factual in the strictest sense.)

Posted by: Happy plugs HUBRIS at September 19, 2006 11:50 AM

You said. Now, back it up.

Posted by: Tim at September 19, 2006 11:54 AM

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Afghanistan: Time for Truth by Eric Margolis
Lew Rockwell

Do not believe what OUR media and politicians are telling us about Afghanistan. Nearly all the information we get about the five-year-old war in Afghanistan comes from US and NATO public relations officers or "embedded" journalists who merely parrot military handouts. Ask yourself, when did you last read a report from a journalist covering Taliban and other Afghan resistance forces?
Now, the official rosy view is being flatly contradicted by impartial observers.
The respected European think-tank, Senlis Council, which focuses on Afghanistan, just reported the Taliban movement is "taking back Afghanistan" and now controls that nation's southern half.
This is an amazing departure from claims by the US and its NATO allies that they are steadily winning the war in Afghanistan. Or, more precisely, winning it again, since the Bush Administration claimed to have won total victory in Afghanistan in 2001. At the time, this column predicted that victory was an illusion and the war would resume in force in 4-5 years.
Last week, Canadian and British commanders boasted they were about to annihilate Taliban forces "surrounded" around Panjwai and Zahri. They crowed an "estimated 500 Taliban," had already been killed.
A storm of bombing and shelling did kill many Afghans, but most of the dead "suspected Taliban militants" turned out, as usual, to be civilians. NATO failed to show bodies of dead enemy fighters to back up its absurd claims.
When NATO forces entered Panjwai after weeks of air strikes and shelling, the supposedly "surrounded" Taliban had vanished. Embarrassed British and Canadian commanders admitted "we were surprised the enemy had fled." Surprised?
Doesn't anyone remember the Vietnam War's fruitless search and destroy missions and inflated body counts? Don't NATO commanders know their every move is telegraphed in advance to Taliban forces? Don't they see what's going on now in Iraq?
Did Canadian officers making such fanciful claims really believe Taliban's veteran guerillas would be stupid enough to sit still and be destroyed by US air power?
Now, Canadian-led NATO forces are crowing about having finally occupied Panjwai. "Taliban has fled!" they proudly announced. Don't they understand that guerilla forces don't hang on to fixed positions? Occupying ground is meaningless in guerilla warfare.
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bushco is going to have that pipeline if they have to slaughter every Afghani to get it.

Posted by: Saladin at September 19, 2006 12:01 PM

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the shrub is faltering and pouting, stomping his little foot because he doesn't get what he wants. Petulant child and needs to be disciplined, severly, but then I imagine that either gannon boy or some other lackey has already spanked him this morning to get him in the mood for the UN

Posted by: What the F**k at September 19, 2006 12:12 PM

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Bish is addressing the General Assembly at the UN on C-SPAN.

He opens with his little black dress, 9/11.

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 19, 2006 12:15 PM

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Bush just said "the voices of moderation are in power"...heaven help us.

Posted by: kathleen at September 19, 2006 12:17 PM

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Coffee, tea or TATP Source: Salt Lake Tribune
Garrison Keillor

And now you can't bring your cup of coffee on board the airplane. It's the latest new rule laid down by the nation's security wizards. Everyone knows it's ridiculous - the notion that you can toss together a few liquids and make an explosive is a fiction from late-night movies. You might as well prohibit bald men on the grounds that the evil Lex Luthor was bald and so was Blofeld, the head of S.P.E.C.T.R.E. But we ditch our venti latte in the trash barrel (goodbye, four bucks) and board the flight, and there we read in the paper that aggressive CIA questioning of an al-Qaida bigwig, stripping him, turning the air conditioner to 40 degrees, blasting him with Red Hot Chili Peppers music, broke him so he ratted on Jose Padilla, a terrorist who set out to make a dirty bomb and who believed that by swinging a bucket of uranium in a circle over his head he could separate plutonium.
It's like a cartoon...
------------
Hillarious rant!

Posted by: Saladin at September 19, 2006 12:20 PM

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Posted by: Keith at September 19, 2006 12:26 PM

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Bush's ability to deliver a speech is light years away from his dis-ability in 2000. He sure opened the door for the Iranian president to rip on the Bush administration at 6:30.

Posted by: kathleen at September 19, 2006 12:31 PM

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Would C-SPAN leave Bush's address (at 12:30) for live house coverage? ODD.

This is the Democracy = Freedom on the march and above all democracy = capitalism is the answer.

His intellectual capacity is frightening. He conflates SO MANY concepts. I can't imagine that international corporations is the answer to a better world.

For Bush, salvation is delivered with wealth and wealth with a western style economy. Peace, freeedon and culture are all by products. What a mother-fucking dumb ass.

His lack of interest in the particulars of cultures other than ours renders him incapable of engaging in terms that respects others sense of self.

"We are looking for a diplomatic solution to this crisis," talking about Iran's objective to obtain a nucleur weapon. [According to recent reports, us military are in Iran already and military plans in Iran have been delivered to the White House, which indicates according to a respected Col. that military action is in advance statges.]

WOW C-SPAN cut to House of Rep. BIZARRE.

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 19, 2006 12:32 PM

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The ugly face of the Bush base

Brains of mush; hearts of stone


Pam Spaulding is a brave woman. She regularly delves into the muck at the Free Republic to see that the Freeper response is to various issues, which inevitably yields a collection of gross lunacy that makes one contemplate whether most of the traffic to the Free Republic emanates from asylums for the criminally insane. Having been reading The Blend for two years now, almost nothing in Pam's regularly culled Freepi twaddle manages to surprise me anymore, but I was particularly disgusted by what she found in response to a wholly inoffensive story about coming out to one's kids which aired on KNBC-4 in Los Angeles.

Within two comments, the rabid nutwits had already invoked bestiality -- "Next, 'How to tell your children you're into beastiality" and "How to tell your children you're a Democrat.'" -- and it only went downhill from there.

More HERE

*****end of clip*****

Brains of mush and hearts of stone? That about sums it up, eh?

capt

Posted by: capt at September 19, 2006 12:33 PM

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#89 O'Reilly

Skimming past comments to post the following petition, this post caught my eye. Thanks for the morning chuckle: little black dress-9/11. Desperate, isn't he.

#2 Capt

Thank you for the post on Gore! Do you think? Do I dare think?? MAYBE!!! You started off my day beautifully.


The Senate Agricultural Committee will vote this week on HR 4200. Please oppose it by signing this petition to protect our national forests from excessive and inappropriate logging.

Wait. I've lost it, be right back.

Posted by: Carey at September 19, 2006 12:44 PM

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O'Reilly,

I thought it was just me... Went to check out how many guffaws were gonna come Commander Codpiece's way, but got Reps. talkin' 'bout pork futures or sumpthin'.

I'd hate to think C-Span was doin' dirty work.

-T

Posted by: Hajji at September 19, 2006 12:46 PM

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If you think Taco Bell is a mexican phone company:

If you have been married three times and still have all the same inlaws:

If you think a "stock tip" is advice about worming your hogs:

You might be a redneck.


Jeff Foxworthy.

Add to that the million or so songs (CW) about being proud to be a redneck and the potential for insult seems a bit fabricated?


Just sayin


capt

Posted by: capt at September 19, 2006 12:49 PM

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#96 O'Reilly interesting that c-span moved from the live coverage to congress. I am unable to get on at the UN live webcast. Not one other media outlet airing what the rest of the world has to say.

That says a great deal about our media outlets.

Have you found another place to watch?

Posted by: kathleen at September 19, 2006 12:51 PM

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All I heard was C-CPAN radio. I'll try it.

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 19, 2006 12:59 PM

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Rednecks are BIG business, dont believe it, Google it!

Posted by: DEN at September 19, 2006 12:59 PM

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I think Bush is done.

C-SPAN radio has a subcommitee hearing.

C-SPAN2 has Tarja Halonen, President of Finland. The black and green marble background makes me think she's addressing the general assembly. It says "Live" top right.

C-SPAN said they would re-run the Bush address, the website doesn;t say when.

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 19, 2006 01:08 PM

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A million country western songs can't be wrong.


capt

Posted by: capt at September 19, 2006 01:11 PM

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Go hang out with your upside-down friends. Go F#@k yourself. I wish I could offer something else. But you give me no choice. LBH the last troll, we expected better from you.

Good Night.

Posted by Uncledad


Yo, U-Diddy,

You really got a twist in your undies about religion, what's your deal? Were yo an alter boy at some point?

Posted by: LBH at September 19, 2006 01:12 PM

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FULL TRANSCRIPT Bunnypants shows out...

-T

Posted by: Hajji at September 19, 2006 01:14 PM

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LBH - alienating allies with every post.

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 19, 2006 01:15 PM

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That says it all... there is not one media outlet in the U.s. carrying the assembly not even c-span.

So much for caring about what the other UN ambassadors and other world leaders have to say.

Posted by: kathleen at September 19, 2006 01:15 PM

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Transcript: Bush accuses Iran of funding terror at UN

RAW STORY
Published: Tuesday September 19, 2006

United States President George W. Bush has used part of his appearance before the United Nations to address the Iranian people, accusing their leaders of funding terrorism and pursuing nuclear weapons RAW STORY has learned.

"You deserve an opportunity to determine your own future," Bush told the United Nations.

"The greatest obstacle to this future is that your rulers have chosen to deny you liberty and to use your nation's resources to fund terrorism and fuel extremism and pursue nuclear weapons."

Bush also praised the push for democracy in the middle east, referring to the goal as "the calling of our generation."

- - -
thx Hajji

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 19, 2006 01:18 PM

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JESUS! I'm having computer problems again.

Finally, here's the petition I refered to at #101 on protecting the forests:

LINK

Before any more problems I just wanted to say once again to David Corn that you were excellent on CSPAN yesterday. Loved the way you patiently explained the hoopla over the use of the word "covert" and why you were never questioned by Fitzgerald.

Posted by: Carey at September 19, 2006 01:18 PM

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112 It's on C-SPAN 2.

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 19, 2006 01:19 PM

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This has got to really suck for you Cornnuts:


Poll finds rebound in Bush approval

By Jill Lawrence and Susan Page, USA TODAY

WASHINGTON Ñ Amid falling gas prices and a two-week drive to highlight his administration's efforts to fight terrorism, President Bush's approval rating has risen to 44% in a new USA TODAY/Gallup Poll. That's his highest rating in a year.


"Yo Panty, da fiesta is over for you libs!"


The poll also showed likely voters evenly divided between Democratic and Republican candidates for Congress, 48%-48%. Among registered voters, Democrats had a 51%-42% advantage.


"That really has got to suck since Repubs are the party of corruption and all"

Bush's approval rating has edged up largely on the strength of Republicans coming back to the fold Ñ 86% with him now compared with 70% in May.

The new poll found likely voters more prone to vote for candidates who support Bush on terrorism, 45%-28%, and evenly divided on those who support and oppose Bush on Iraq. More than a quarter said Iraq is their top concern this fall. For the first time since December 2005, a majority of people did not say the war there was a mistake; the split was 49%-49%.


"Aw! Say it's not so, 49% to 49%. Now we can't use the old Dem talking point that the majority of American people are against the war."

Bush's terror-fighting techniques drew mixed reviews. A 55%-42% majority supported his policy of wiretapping phone conversations between U.S. citizens here and suspected terrorists in other countries without getting a court order.


"Majority! Yes, majority!"


Corn's block buster book with new revelations about Bush corruption must not be getting through to the public according to this new USA Today poll.




Posted by: LBH at September 19, 2006 01:23 PM

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Well the going is very slow on this machine. But I wanted to also mention to David Corn, (I'm sure he probably saw it or has heard of it) Jon Stewart trotted out his "douche-bag for liberty" label for Novak once again last night. I thought it quite timely.

Don,

Thanks so much for relating your experiences at the Roger Waters concert. Much enjoyed hearing about it.

Posted by: Carey at September 19, 2006 01:29 PM

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LBH it is a discouraging when the American public can be manipulated so easily.

Posted by: kathleen at September 19, 2006 01:43 PM

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Talk of the Nation doing a show on the Un at 2p.m. send in your questions to talk@npr.org or call 800-989-talk

later

Posted by: kathleen at September 19, 2006 01:45 PM

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LBH it is a discouraging when the American public can be manipulated so easily.

Kathleen


That's what Corn thought! It seems that you Cornnuts are the only ones so easily manipulated.

Posted by: LBH at September 19, 2006 01:45 PM

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NEWS FLASH

Military coup rumored in Thailand

Thailand's capital has been placed under a state of emergency and the army chief sacked by caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra after tanks and soldiers surrounded Government House in Bangkok. Thaksin is currently out of the country, attending the United Nations General Assembly in New York. The Thai baht fell 0.4% to 37.45 at 11:44am in New York, from 37.29 late Monday.
Asia Times Online will provide in-depth coverage as soon as possible.

Posted by: capt at September 19, 2006 01:54 PM

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Regarding Roger Waters, they have a concert DVD(totally killer!) called Pulse, closest thing to being there and no annoying dipshits.

Pink Floyd website

Posted by: DEN at September 19, 2006 01:54 PM

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Saladins religion of peace?


Gazans warn pope to accept Islam
By KHALED ABU TOAMEH

Jerusalem Post 9/19/2006

Citing the words of the Prophet Muhammad, Muslim religious leaders in the Gaza Strip on Sunday warned Pope Benedict XVI that he must "accept" Islam if he wanted to live in peace.

The warning, the first of its kind, came as many Christians in the West Bank expressed anger over a spate of attacks on churches in protest against remarks made by the pope about the Muslims and the Prophet Muhammad.

Posted by: LBH at September 19, 2006 01:54 PM

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All of us need to be more like Steve Latham.

The Wilderness of Jersey City

When Steve Latham first began exploring the land along the abandoned reservoir in the Jersey City Heights area of New Jersey, it was strictly as a place to kayak and teach his kids about nature.
Slowly the exploration of the 14-plus acres turned into something between a cause and an obsession.

"Jersey City" and "wilderness" aren't commonly matched in word-associations, but in this densely populated slice of Hudson County, an accident of history has allowed an almost invisible oasis to exist in the middle of the city for almost its entire history.

For Latham, a restaurateur on hiatus from the business, it has become his loving mission to preserve the space.

"Here was this beautiful wild spot, not manicured, not planted, but planted by nature," he explains. "It was this beautiful, very special place."

The wonder of God's creation is all around us. Respect it. Admire it.

How desirable are all His works, and how sparkling they are to see! (Sirach 42:22)

Holy Creator, inspire us to preserve and protect the works of Your hands.

Posted by: Gerald at September 19, 2006 01:57 PM

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Iraq: Trying to spin the unspinnable


[..]

Bad news has cascaded out of Iraq at such an astonishing pace that it defies credulity to suggest that the war has not drastically worsened the lives of Iraqis. At the same time, the initial rationale for the war has itself been further undermined.

The administration has nevertheless tried to spin the unspinnable as the elections near, with many Republican candidates fighting for their political lives and choosing to distance themselves from the White House on Iraq. Only the fifth anniversary of the September 11 attacks on the US has offered the administration any respite, providing an opportunity it did not squander to tell voters, ad nauseam, that Iraq is the front line of its "war on terror".

The most immediate public relations challenge facing the administration is Iraq's civil war. The United Nations now estimates that 100 Iraqis at least are dying every day in sectarian violence. Dozens of bodies turn up daily in Baghdad, the victims of torture and execution by death squads, and bombs in public spaces turn everyday life into slaughter. Baghdad's central morgue alone counted 1,536 violent deaths in August.

President Bush's feeble response has been to split hairs, calling Iraq a "bloody campaign of sectarian violence" but not a civil war. The American people err on the other side of the semantic fence, however. A CBS News poll in June showed that 82% believed civil war was under way.

More HERE

*****end of clip*****

Bush will not use the phrase "civil war" until after the midterms. Then that phrase will be used to justify more troops.

capt

Posted by: capt at September 19, 2006 01:58 PM

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WHOA! YIKES!

I must have missed it here or in the last threads, but have you all seen Wayne Madsen?

WHOA! Thousand ton bombshell(s). Incredible. (Sept 17-18) Directly correlates to Hubris and just about everything!


LINK

Posted by: Carey at September 19, 2006 02:03 PM

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U-Diddy, this ones for you:


Jesus vs Mohammed

Jesus didn't tell Christians to force people to come to Him at the point of a gun. Or under the threat of a sword.

Jesus promised that the power of conversion would come through His Holy Spirit.

Jesus told the Apostles, ÒBut ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. (Acts 1:8)

Compare that to Islam's version of the Great Commission: Said Mohammed to his apostles; ÒI was ordered to fight all men until they say, ÔThere is no god but Allah.Ó

Jesus send His followers out to live according to His example, which He said would draw men to what they could clearly see to be the truth.

Mohammed told his followers to fight all men until they convert to Islam's version of the truth. Osama bin Laden quoted Islam's great commission during the post 9/11 Afghan campaign: ÒI was ordered to fight all men until they say, ÔThere is no god but Allah.Ó

How can anyone say Islam is a peacful religion?

Posted by: LBH at September 19, 2006 02:03 PM

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116 Taunting is effective when you've got something to brag about.

The "life has got suck for you libs because Bush is incompetent and people will vote republican anyway" narrative is 'clever' but self-defeating, don;t you think?

Posted by: Carrie at September 19, 2006 02:04 PM

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WHOA! YIKES!

I must have missed it here or in the last threads, but have you all seen Wayne Madsen?

WHOA! Thousand ton bombshell(s). Incredible. (Sept 17-18) Directly correlates to Hubris and just about everything!


LINK

Posted by: Carey at September 19, 2006 02:04 PM

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122 Thanks Den. I'll rent it.

Posted by: Carrie at September 19, 2006 02:05 PM

106

When Enemies become Friends

John Rich and Takeo Sato first met when Sato was a prisoner of war and Rich, his interrogator.

The two had been combatants in a battle between American and Japanese forces on the island of Saipan during WWII. When Sato was captured, he feared the worst.

"I expected someone would hit me," Sato said of his experience as a prisoner. "But John-san was a real gentleman."

Sato was soon moved to a prison camp in Hawaii, near where Rich was stationed. Rich began to visit him, and when Sato was released, Rich tracked him down in Japan. They continued to visit each other for over six decades, long after Rich had left the military and was no longer stationed in Japan. Now grandfathers, their families are forever bonded.

"Wars end," Rich said of their friendship. "People can get along right, if you treat them right."

If you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. (Matthew 6:14)

Lord, help me to see the good in all Your people.

Posted by: Gerald at September 19, 2006 02:07 PM

107

WHOA! YIKES!

I must have missed it here or in the last threads, but have you all seen Wayne Madsen?

WHOA! Thousand ton bombshell(s). Incredible. (Sept 17-18) Directly correlates to Hubris and just about everything!


LINK

Posted by: Carey at September 19, 2006 02:07 PM

108

How can anyone say Islam is a peacful religion?
Posted by: LBH at September 19, 2006 02:03 PM


How can anyone take you seriously?

Posted by: Carrie at September 19, 2006 02:08 PM

109

WHOA! YIKES!

I must have missed it here or in the last threads, but have you all seen Wayne Madsen?

WHOA! Thousand ton bombshell(s). Incredible. (Sept 17-18) Directly correlates to Hubris and just about everything!


LINK

Posted by: Carey at September 19, 2006 02:09 PM

110

How can anyone say Islam is a peacful religion?
Posted by: LBH at September 19, 2006 02:03 PM


How can anyone take you seriously?

Posted by: Carrie at September 19, 2006 02:09 PM

111

"The greatest obstacle to this future is that your rulers have chosen to deny you liberty and to use your nation's resources to fund terrorism and fuel extremism and pursue nuclear weapons."

Thus Speaketh the King!

O'Reilly, all those things can be applied to bushco, the top dogs of nuclear terrorism!

Posted by: Saladin at September 19, 2006 02:15 PM

112

Bush vs. The National Security Professionals

By Sidney Blumenthal - Bio


Bush has relentlessly sought to enforce his ideology dogma by clamping down on national security professional objective analyses and reports. The history of Bush in Iraq, before and after the invasion, can be written as a chronicle of quashing information and replacing it with disinformation. Bush has punished the CIA and the intelligence community for its assertions of professionalism by his appointment of Porter Goss as director, giving him an order to purge it. Bush, Cheney and the neocons consider any hint of adherence to professional standards that may contradict their preconceptions as subversive partisanship. To the extent that the CIA or other intelligence agencies or the State Department have provided reports at odds with their intentions and scenarios they are seen as the enemy within that must be ruthlessly crushed.

More HERE

*****end of clip*****

The bio linked above is much more accurate than what I posted on him.

capt

Posted by: capt at September 19, 2006 02:16 PM

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116 Taunting is effective when you've got something to brag about.

Carrie

Let me help you with this honey:

Bragging rights~~~

1. Gas prices down

2. Stock market up

3. No attacks on US soil in 5 years

4. Liberals have no agenda

5. Conservative judges being picked

6. Taxes are down, tax receipts are up

7. Corn is outed as leaker of Plame

8. Economy is up

9. Republicans keep control of House and Senate

10. Gore is going to run again for the third time and give the race to Repubs, again.

11. Howard Dean is in charge of keeping Repubs in control of congress

12. Dingy Harry can only be obstructionist and is down in his own state poll numbers

13. Air America is bankrupt on ratings and money

On a negative note; the Steelers lost last night, damnit!

Posted by: LBH at September 19, 2006 02:17 PM

114

Carrie,

I believe LBH gave specific examples of how both Christianity and Islam treat peace and harmony.

Without the sophomoric namecalling, please address each of his examples and answer his question.

Or do you lack sufficient intellectual courage and integrity?

Posted by: factchecker at September 19, 2006 02:17 PM

115

Carrie, I'm back!

86
.....Now, back it up.
Posted by: Tim at September 19, 2006 11:54 AM
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All visitors, especially Conservatives, Spoofing is a regular occurance here on this far-left blog. What is `spoofing'? It's Libs/Cornuts posting comments under the blog names of Conservatives on the Corn Blog. Comment #86 above, spoofing Tim, a Conservative, is either by "O'Reilly", "Don", or "uncledad". The Libs here revel in their deceptions on the Corn blog, just as their Party does on the political stage!

Now, a Repost of my beautiful comments at

84
A `Regular' Corn blogger from our side of the aisle, I want to tell you and all Conservatives NOT disposed to buying/reading HUBRIS, my thoughts on David's book and to put in a plug for it! Why?

1) HUBRIS goes into substantial details on the workings of our government on the new Post-9/11 paradigm of mounting a preemptive war. There likely are other similar books but HUBRIS is hot off the press.
2) For politically-minded, the behind-the-scene jockying behind was fun to read.
3) For the spy novel lovers, there are plenty of twists & turns, along with the comedies of incompetence found in the old `spy vs. spy' cartoons.
4) For those reluctant to give your money to Corn/Isikoff, realize that with the book at $18, just a few bucks will be split among the authors. If buying is still objectionable, go to your library!
5) Lastly, as a measure of my appreciation for DavidCorn.com's Open Door policy that give Conservatives an open forum in hostile (but often juvenile) territory!

(PS: HUBRIS is NOT all based on facts! Out of authors' necessity to `connect the dots' from the extensive research and interviews, they took plenty of liberty in making assumptions that seem plausible or reasonable....but NOT factual in the strictest sense.)

Posted by: Happy back from Lunch at September 19, 2006 02:17 PM

116

Bush bounce? What Bush bounce?

So much for the old news.

Posted by: TurdBlossom at September 19, 2006 02:19 PM

117

How can anyone say Islam is a peacful religion?
Posted by: LBH at September 19, 2006 02:03 PM


How can anyone take you seriously?


Carrie


When you can only attack the messenger and not the message then that is all I need.

Posted by: LBH at September 19, 2006 02:21 PM

118

Carrie, no one DOES take the racist fool seriously!

Posted by: Saladin at September 19, 2006 02:21 PM

119

Saladin and Carrie

You seem to think that name calling will intimidate me somehow.

I am not like Mr Corn who cannot handle a little criticism from the other side when I post my views.

Saladin calls me a racist and then spews abouts Jews and Zionists as the evil of the world-that's rich coming from you honey!

Posted by: LBH at September 19, 2006 02:27 PM

120

Transforming Tragedy

One terrible day in 1998, Linda Ginzel got news no mother should ever have to hear: A portable crib had collapsed at the home of her licensed day-care provider, strangling her 17-month-old son Danny.

The day after Danny's funeral, Ginzel found while reading the Chicago Tribune, that Danny was the fifth child to die in a Playskool Travel-Lite crib, and the second since its recall in 1993.

Shocked that the government didn't require manufacturers to test children's products prior to sale, Linda and her husband founded Kids in Danger, an organization that advocates safety in children's products through a newsletter and lobbying.

With a push from Kids in Danger, seven states have passed laws banning the sale of recalled products. The long-term goal is to eliminate the need for children's product recalls.

The aftermath of tragedy can be to lose hope or to work for hope-filled change.

Hoping against hope, (Abraham) believed that he would become 'the father of many nations'. (Romans 4:18)

When I am surrounded by despair, send me Your hopefulness, Savior.

Cornposters, with the imminent slaughter of the Democrats in the 2006 election let us work for hope-filled change in America. We may need to start a new national party in place of the Democrats. Where is the creativity for new ideas from the Democrats???

Posted by: Gerald at September 19, 2006 02:28 PM

121

How do YOU spellBACK DOOR DRAFT
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U.S. troop levels in Iraq will likely remain at the current number -- more than 140,000 -- through next spring, the senior U.S. commander in the Middle East said today.

Gen. John P. Abizaid, commander of the U.S. Central Command, said current troops levels are needed because of the sectarian violence in Iraq, problems with the country's police force, and the slow progress that has been made in establishing an Iraqi government.

MORE
___________________

Look for a lot more outspoken military personnel this winter!

-T

Posted by: Hajji at September 19, 2006 02:30 PM

122

Bush Caves on Torture Rules

Only last week, the president drew a line in the sand over his proposed interrogation rules, threatening to cancel the CIA interrogation program altogether if a trio of rebellious Republicans refused to pass his version. In a total reversal, the Bush administration has reestablished talks with the defiant senators, hoping to work out a deal and pass the stalled legislation.

AP: While no details have been divulged, the change in rhetoric was in stark contrast to last week when the two sides began counting votes and turned to the press to plead their case. And it came amid indications that BushÕs plan was in increasing trouble in the both chambers of the GOP-run Congress.

ÒWe share the presidentÕs goal of enacting legislation preserving an effective CIA program to make us safe, upholding Geneva Convention protections for our troops, and passing constitutional muster,Ó said Sen. Lindsey Graham (news, bio, voting record) in a statement Monday.

Graham, R-S.C., helped lead the charge against the administrationÕs bill, alongside Sens. John Warner, chairman of the Armed Services Committee, and John McCain, a prisoner of war in the Vietnam War.

The Senate Armed Services Committee last week passed the senatorsÕ proposal by a 15-9 vote, with mostly Democratic support. The presidentÕs measure would go further, allowing classified evidence to be withheld from defendants in terror trials and allowing coerced testimony. Bush also favors a narrower interpretation of the Geneva Conventions that would make it harder to prosecute U.S. interrogators for using harsh techniques.

Posted by: Carrie at September 19, 2006 02:34 PM

123

LBH, you are a liar, and so are your fellow bushbots.

Posted by: Saladin at September 19, 2006 02:36 PM

124

Kids ÔWorshipÕ Picture of Bush in ÔJesus CampÕ
Posted on Sep 18, 2006

From ABC News

The object of 6-year-oldsÕ ÒworshipÓ is seen in this screenshot of the new documentary ÒJesus Camp.Ó

This new documentary affords an inside look at an evangelical camp for kids in North Dakota in which campers praise a photo of the president, among other things. Watch an ABC News report on the film.

LINK

Posted by: Carrie at September 19, 2006 02:39 PM

125

LBH, you are a liar, and so are your fellow bushbots.

Saladin


That's it, that's your rebuttal? Weak! No wonder Islam keeps women behind a burka!

Posted by: LBH at September 19, 2006 02:40 PM

126

Q&A Lindsey Graham on Torture
Web Exclusive
By Michael Isikoff
Newsweek
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(Q)Another big issue is the use of aggressive interrogation techniques like water-boarding [dripping water into a wet cloth over a suspect's face], sleep deprivation and other techniques that might be considered abusive. Have we gotten useful intelligence using these techniques?

(A)I donÕt know. IÕm not on [the Senate intelligence] committee. And I wouldnÕt believe them if they told me .... I know the prosecutor at Gitmo believes that water-boarding inherently renders a statement involuntary. Water-boarding is a near drowning experience. ItÕs pretty hard to say that a person voluntarily gave you something there. It may have been accurate. But it sure wasnÕt voluntary. So they donÕt need to go down that road. They donÕt need all that stuff ...

(Q)What that means is there will be trials for the big 9/11 conspirators like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, but everybody else could be stuck in indefinite limbo with no access to the courts.

A) Bullshit! There are 400 and something lawsuits filed against our guys complaining about the food, the TV access, all kinds of crap. Prisoners of war donÕt sue their captors .... Habeas rights came about because the Bush administration took such a hard line.

MORE
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Is Lindsey runnin' for something?

-T

Posted by: Hajji at September 19, 2006 02:44 PM

127

LBH. I didn't call you a name. I asked how anyone could take you seriously.

I can't take you seriously. Uncledad can't take you seriously. Saladin doesn't take you seriously. Happy does but there you go. Factchecker does too but he's just as afraid of muslims as you are.

Some of my best friends are muslims. Muslims are not the problem. Islam is not the problem. You think it is. You and factchecker think it's time to start killing them in large quantities. That is why I say, can anyone take you seriously?

It's a sincere question. It's not a name.

Posted by: Carrie at September 19, 2006 02:45 PM

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Lesson in a Dog's Tale

In one Queens, New York, neighborhood, there's a good-looking visitor wandering the streets, a caramel colored German shepherd dog. This canine has no collar or home but plenty of concerned guardians.

"Everybody knows about him," says Angela Ferrini, one area resident. "He's calm and chilled out." She even named the dog, "Babe," when she tired of hearing others refer to him as "the stray" or simply "the dog."

Mike Ibanescu, a cabdriver from Romania, often sees Babe in the morning. He puts food out for him, sometimes boiled beef.

Local animal authorities didn't have any record of a missing dog matching Babe's description. They hoped to find a home for him perhaps even in his current neighborhood.

In the meantime, the residents on the streets where Babe lives for now have taught us to look out for our neighbor and to reach out to the lost Рhuman or animal.

O Lord, how manifold are your works! In wisdom You have made them all; the earth is full of Your creatures. (Psalm 104:24)

Creator, remind us to be kind to each other, to ourselves and to other creatures because we are all seeking acceptance and a home.

The story of Babe reminds me of an article from a daily newspaper. It was January in one of the northern states in the United States and it was cold, very cold. In the morning some people heard a crying baby in an empty field. As they approached the area near the crying baby, a dog lifted himself up and walked away. Where the dog was, they saw a baby with dog hairs over the baby. They suspected that the dog covered the baby through the night to keep the baby warm. The people were unable to find the dog. I have heard that the Holy Spirit takes many forms while He guides us to heaven. Maybe the Holy Spirit took the form of a dog to warm the baby on a cold winter evening?

Posted by: Gerald at September 19, 2006 02:46 PM

129

Halliburton to Wounded Employee: YouÕll Get a MedalÑIf You DonÕt Sue
Posted on Sep 18, 2006

HowÕs this for corporate responsibility? Halliburton told one of its employees who was wounded while working in Iraq that it would nominate him for the civilian equivalent of a Purple HeartÑif he promised not to sue the company. He didnÕt sign; he got the medal anyway; and heÕs suing Halliburton.

TPM Muckraker:

... Ray Stannard was a truck driver in Iraq for Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg Brown and Root. In 2003, he was part of a fuel convoy that was ambushed by insurgents. Seven Americans died in the attack and 26 were injured, including Stanner. He is suing the company.

His company knew the convoyÕs route was dangerous and unprotected, he says, but sent the convoy through anyway. ÒWhat they did was murder,Ó Stannard told CBS News recently. ÒAnd I stick by that.Ó

link

Posted by: Carrie at September 19, 2006 02:47 PM

130

I am sorry to everyone for being a complete asshole. I cant help it. I have a small penis and need some way to feel big, so I come here and cause trouble. I really dont know what I am talking about so please just ignore me. All I am looking for is attention.

Posted by: LBH at September 19, 2006 02:47 PM

131

You aren't worth a rebuttal. Carrie 149, that is absolutely freaky! Pretty soon they'll be shouting "Heil Bush!"

Posted by: Saladin at September 19, 2006 02:47 PM

132

138 Taunting is effective when you've got something to brag about.
Carrie

Let me help you with this honey:
Bragging rights . . .
Posted by: LBH at September 19, 2006 02:17 PM


Have you noticed how LBH and fc like to condescend to women? I wonder where that comes from. Does LBH feel superior or (somewhere deep down inside, where he doesn't want to look) is he completely insecure and flailing out of control?

Posted by: Carrie at September 19, 2006 02:52 PM

133

islam does not keep women behind a burka - repressive taliban-type extremists keep women behind a burka. the u.s. govt/mcmed