David,

Don't get too caught up in the book to enjoy a little "end of Summer" with your family.

Thanx, as always, for many things.

-T

We'll get to York soon enough. Maybe Hitchens, too.

Enjoy this last (soggy where I am) end-of-summer weekend. Next week will mean business.

Posted by David Corn at September 1, 2006 04:12 PM

Thank you for giving me so many things to look forward to next week; your book, a throw-down with unkempt York, a bar brawl with Hitchens and showdown with politcal spinmeisters to be named at a later date. WaWho!

Here's to a great weekend for you, all the the liberal and conservative cornbloggers, and me. The trolls can all go to hell.

"Next week will mean business."

I take that a$ much for your `launch' of formal book $ale as for whatever else HUBRIS has to Reveal!

IF HUBRIS' "revelations to discomfort folks on both sides of the aisle" is true, is it a sign that you're moving, ever so slightly, to a more `fair and balanced' writeup for this book....as vs. Lies?!

David's name should be much more well known when the book finally hits shelves. In anticipation maybe we should have a name for easy indentification, we've all heard of "Freepers" after all. Who votes for Cornbloggers?

Tim #192 from previous thread,
Yeah people here are pretty negative because the main topic of this site is politics and current political happenings are nothing to smile about. I think you know however if you bring up other subjects you are more likely to get a more uplifting conversation.

Dear Mr. Corn,

The Washington Post editorial was rather disturbing, wasn't it? And surprising.

Your book is getting alot of attention though, even if WaPo failed to mention it by name. What's that about?

Out here in San Diego, promoting your book has resulted in some brisk Amazon sales. We don't have any real neighborhood bookstores anymore--all franchises.

Yes, by all means, enjoy the last few days (weekend) of summer before you hit the publicity trail. For me, I can't wait to see you take on Hitchens. He was so awful the other night on Bill Maher's HBO show. A real cad.

I join the others in thanking you for all of your work.

Carey

Now, for a link or two. This is Rosa Brooks' column on rampant anti-Semitism accusations:

On Israel, Kid Gloves--Or Else

Critics of the Jewish state find themselves accused of anti-Semitism, or worse.

(But} what's most troubling about the vitriol directed at [Ken] Roth [director of Human's Rights Watch] and his organization isn't that it's savage, unfounded and fantastical. What's most troubling is that it's typical. Typical, that is, of what anyone rash enough to criticize Israel can expect to encounter. In the United States today, it just isn't possible to have a civil debate about Israel, because any serious criticism of its policies is instantly countered with charges of anti-Semitism. Think Israel's tactics against Hezbollah were too heavy-handed, or that Israel hasn't always been wholly fair to the Palestinians, or that the United States should reconsider its unquestioning financial and military support for Israel? Shhh: Don't voice these sentiments unless you want to be called an anti-Semite--and probably a terrorist sympathizer to boot.

How did adopting a reflexively pro-Israel stance come to be a mandatory aspect of American Jewish identity? Skepticism--a willingness to ask tough questions--has always been central to the Jewish intellectual tradion. Ironically, this tradition remains alive in Israel, where respected public figures routinely criticize the government in far harsher terms than those used by Human Rights Watch.

...With resentment of Israeli policies fueling terrorism and instability both in the Middle East and around the globe, it's past time for Americans to have a serious national debate about how to bring a just peace to the Middle East. But if criticism of Israel is out of bounds, that debate can't occur--and we'll all pay the price.

More at above link.

Here's a tidbit of fun gossip, if not maddening.

A Political Who-Held-It

A LA Times editorial:

Even in the jaded and treacherous world of Beltway gossip, it's rare to come across a story as rich as the manhunt for the senator who derailed the Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act. It has everything: suspense, hypocrisy, foul play....and it may yet have a happy ending.

Before you enlist

Advice for COs

Gerald,

What do you think about someone becoming a conscientious objector just as he sees an Islamofascist about to put a bullet between your eyes?

Now multiply that thought for another 300 million Americans. Do you begin to see why they can't trust you people with their safety?

You better go back to crying and puking. 'Twould seem that is about all you are good for.

MORE GREAT NEWS!!

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. military shot down a target ballistic missile over the Pacific on Friday in the widest test of its emerging antimissile shield in 18 months, the Defense Department announced.

The Pentagon's Missile Defense Agency said it had successfully completed an important exercise involving the launch of an improved ground-based interceptor missile designed to protect the United States against a limited long-range ballistic missile attack.

The test results will help improve the performance of a multibillion-dollar shield against the type of long-range ballistic missile that could be used to attack a U.S. city with a weapon of mass destruction, the agency said in a statement.

Officially, the $85 million test was designed to collect data rather than shoot down the target.

It was the first involving a live target since interceptor rockets failed to leave their silos during tests in December 2004 and February 2005.

It was also the first since the ground-based system, which is part of a layered shield that includes naval and aerial components, was activated to guard against ballistic missiles test-fired on July 4 and 5 by North Korea.

Boeing Co. is prime contractor for the ground-based mid-course defense. Major subcontractors include Lockheed Martin Corp., Northrop Grumman Corp. and Raytheon Co..

In the exercise, a target missile was launched from Kodiak, Alaska. And for the first time, the ground-based interceptor missile was launched from Vandenberg Air Force Base in central California. Previous launches have been from the Kwajalein Atoll in the Marshall Islands.

saw the title more great news and thought finally Bush and co were getting frog marched out of the white house...talk about false advertising

Islamofacist is not a real word first

second the idea that your ilk is in charge of our countries direction is more than horrifying

about all you are good for is regurgitating tired neocon rhetoric, sad really

ed,

Don't you have something better to do, like surrendering to somebody?

factchecker you are truly a piece of work!

What do you think about someone becoming a conscientious objector just as he sees an Islamofascist about to put a bullet between your eyes?
Now multiply that thought for another 300 million Americans. Do you begin to see why they can't trust you people with their safety?
You better go back to crying and puking. 'Twould seem that is about all you are good for.
--factchecker

I also pity you for your outlook on life.
- factchecker

It is now time to start killing them in large quantities.
Posted by: factchecker at August 13, 2006 11:41 PM

oh i forgot one:

wetbacks
-factchecker

surrender to who exactly ?

last time I checked the current debacle withy terrorists was being mishandled by your guy...nice try though

spy on this,

Yes, I believe in killing Islamofascists in large quantities, just like I believe that killing Germans and Japanese in World War II was absolutely necessary.

I'm sure your tender sensibilities probably abhor both.

ed,

I don't know; the libs are always surrendering to someone.

ed @14,

"Islamofacist is not a real word first"

First, the proper spelling is "Islamofascist", not your way, above. Next, the term is in general use, even having a definition in wikipedia.

Typical liberal to establish himself as the etymological impramatur.

"second the idea that your ilk is in charge of our countries direction is more than horrifying"

If you persist in contuing with your sophomoric banter, at least learn the King's English. The term you used - countries - is the plural of "country". You meant to use "country's", the singular possessive noun modifying the noun "direction".

"about all you are good for"

This should read, "about all for which you are good". Didn't you ever hear Winston Churchill exclaim, "Ending a sentence with a preposition is something with which I will not up put."?

Get thee to remedial school.

ed @ #19,

"surrender to who exactly ?"

That should read, "surrender to whom".

Please learn the use of objective pronouns versus nominative pronouns. At least you didn't use the possessive pronoun, "whose".

FYI fact guy

Main Entry: fas·cism
Pronunciation: 'fa-"shi-z&m also 'fa-"si-
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

again the current conflict has little to do with nation, race or economics in the manner with which you necon troglodytes use it

the issue relates to religion and its abuse as failed as failed US policy but i understand if thats too highbrow for ya'll and ya need ta dumb it down

next do you feel that ALL terrorists can be killed...all of them, even the wee ones that are in training now that random bombs are dropping on their mothers and sisters and girlfiends?

if not then how does one fight a conflict with no end?

looks like those evil Liberals taught you the english fundamentals...too bad this is a blog idiot and people are here for ideas and debate, not grammer

sad for you that with that great liberal education you chose to eat the spoonfed lies of the neocons and blindly stand here to support the worst debacle in modern history

wonder why the sky didn't fall during the Clinton years?

"Islamofascism is nothing but an empty propaganda term. And wartime propaganda is usually, if not always, crafted to produce hysteria, the destruction of any sense of proportion. Such words, undefined and unmeasured, are used by people more interested in making us lose our heads than in keeping their own."[2] —Joseph Sobran, syndicated columnist.

ed,

As my hero Winston Churchill said,
"...we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender..."

Your option is to surrender, hence to have them follow us here - again. What bombs were raining down on Osama Bin Laden when he attacked?

Do you think they don't understand that bombs are raining down on them because the cowardly Islamofascists are hiding behind the skirts of women and the toys of children?

Come on, ed; you can't be that shallow. You think better than that, even if your syntax is atrocious.

(Not directed at ed.)

Looks like the corn flakes have escaped the box again...

please point to where I used the term surrender in any posts

then explain how fighting them over there prevented or in fact did not prevent the bombings in spain, london and the numerous inflight almosts of last weeks news

so there goes islamo-whatever and fighting them over there...any other clever catchphrases or are you all out factless checker

how about we personalize...let's say england has an issue with conservatives so they bomb the US, bomb precision being what it is lots of innocent non conservatives are killed...do you think it fair that their kin would want revenge?

note fairness has little to do with right or wrong, its perspective that matters

in that mode we are creating our new enemies as fast as we are killing the old ones

take off the blinders son

ed,

Nice to see you learned how to spell "Islamofascism".

If, like Joe Sobran, I can write an article banishing words even though many others use them, will you agree with me?

By the way, here's what wikipedia says about Sobran:

"Sobran was ultimately fired from National Review in 1993 after being accused of being an anti-Semite by Norman Podhoretz and others following a series of writings. Specifically, Podhoretz wrote that "Joe Sobran's columns...[are] anti-Semitic in themselves, and not merely 'contextually.'" Buckley disagreed with Podhoretz's accusation, noting that he, deemed Joe Sobran's six columns contextually anti-Semitic. By this I mean that if he had been talking, let us say, about the lobbying interests of the Arabs or of the Chinese, he would not have raised eyebrows as an anti-Arab or an anti-Chinese.

Others have accused Sobran of anti-semitism since then. For example, the Stephen Roth Institute criticized his appearance at a 2001 conference hosted by the Institute for Historical Review, which it described as the "most active Holocaust denying organization in the United States." Both the Roth Institute and Tom Palmer, a senior fellow at the Cato Institute link Sobran to convicted Holocaust denier David Irving, since both appeared at the same event."

Nice to see whom you're quoting.

besides if they hate us that much it matters little what political party is in power, might as well start treating the US as a business and since the leadership has failed fire them and give the new guys a chance

fear- all that the GOP has left

National Review ("NR") is a conservative political magazine, founded by author William F. Buckley Jr. in 1955. The magazine is based in New York City and published biweekly.

Jeffery Hart, a longtime editor of the magazine, criticizes the magazine's current crop of writers as being too topical, too ideological, and no longer grounded in serious political philosophy. In Hart's 2005 book, The Making of the American Conservative Mind: National Review and Its Times, the author laments the loss of the Eastern Conservatives as a dominant force in the GOP. Hart relays how co-founder James Burnham (NR's leading theorist), actually supported Nelson Rockefeller in his run for the Presidency in 1964.

This critical view sees a National Review that has now turned its back on the Taft and Rockefeller wings of the GOP, abandoning conservative principles to become a Southern evangelical/radical party, much like a populist party, best exemplified by George W. Bush.

we can play the wikialty game all day

and anyone who criticizes Israel is quickly dubbed anti semite so that term is losing ground

its kinda like you neocons calling dems non patriots for not backing Schrub, after a while that dog stops hunting

ed,

And your options are to "negotiate" with people who have called for the end of our existence?

In logic, we call your argument a "non sequitir". In your parlance, it just doesn't make any damn sense.

And, yes, you are surrendering if you are not winning. These people are intent on inihilating us. If you don't understand this, you are too naive for words, too illogical for comprehension and too dense for debate. You are a cheese-eating surrender monkey, just like the French and the Norwegians. You are truly a lost cause.

More's the pity.

the Taliban is back, did they leave?, in Afghanistan

Civil war is brewing in Iraq

Lebanon has been bombed to pieces

Iran is telling the world to pound sand

and you are afraid of a change in leadership?

again...can we kill them all

answer that english guru...can we kill them all?

and if not then how does your plan hold water ?

we never should have gone to Iraq

after 9/11 all thoughts should have been to modern prevention and homeland security, with just one days money lost in Iraq we could be a safer nation today

fact is we cannot police the entire globe and the time has come to retool our foriegn policy

now tell me where I missed my punctuation you troll

ed,
As poorly as this war is being prosecuted by the Republicans, I believe you nihilists will fare much more poorly.

The Left is weak and naive. Fir example, we have a country, Iran, who said this week it will never relinquish any of its nuclear capabilities. Russia and China have invested billions in the Iranian nucelar development, and will not join in any type of sanctions against Iran.

I suppose you think you are the reincarnation of Neville Chamberlain? You do know who he was, don't you? How would you treat the Iranian situation?

Please learn the use of objective pronouns versus nominative pronouns. At least you didn't use the possessive pronoun, "whose". [. . .]

What do you think about someone becoming a conscientious objector just as he sees an Islamofascist about to put a bullet between your eyes? Now multiply that thought for another 300 million Americans. Do you begin to see why they can't trust you people with their safety?
You better go back to crying and puking. 'Twould seem that is about all you are good for. [. . .]

I also pity you for your outlook on life. [. . .]

It is now time to start killing them in large quantities.

wetbacks

Posted by: factchecker

factchecker is a well-educated asshole with bad judgment. He spells well, he knows his grammer, and he condescendigly points out others peoples' mistakes.

He is also a bigot and Bush loyalist who posts regulary on davidcorn.com But I like it because it's like having a mangy cur around: You can give it a good kick and feel better.

Left is weak and naive. Fir example

gotta do it....Fir example ?

done with that line of attack checks?

DB. Are Corn flakes synonymous with trolls?

Iran is easy...we say that the US is ending its nuclear ambitions and that everyone is on board, Iran follows...simple as that

to lead we need to set an example, with Bush allowing other nations to get nukes and with his desire to expand our own it makes little sense to run to Iran and say don't do as I do...so Russia and China will call us out on that

fact is nuclear energy is dangerous, no one should have it, but again to lead we must set the example

ed,
No, we don't have to kill them all. We just have to kill their leaders. But there will be civilians killed. See World War II, Civil War, Revolutionary War, etc.

The problems with you and the rest of the libs is that, in your world, if perfection can't be attained, then there is no use to attempt anything.

Well, life is a sad fact, sometimes. We have to make choices. There are alternatives in this world, and it is not always good-versus-bad. Yes, killing innocents is horrendous (see Dresden, Atlanta, los ninos de Chapultepec, Hiroshima, etc.), but the alternative is worse.

You well-intentioned libs never seem to understand that we have to make hard choices in this world. We tried the Age of Aquarius, and it didn't work. It took Ronald Reagan to bring down the Evil Empire.

imagine if it was US policy to enage other nations and support them financially when they adopt trends in the US such as turning to windfarms instead of nuclear energy

imagine if instead of bombing we took to school building

what if we made our country so popular no one dared attach us for fear of everyone else defending us

it really isn't that far fetched facts...its the difference between kill em all and figure it out

but if we don't kill em all they just keep coming back...think cockroaches

your language may be good but you have no logic sir

So, you're saying the answer is unilateral nuclear disarmament?

How about we give up all our weapons?

This is no longer a serious argument. I thought you were a serious adult; obviously, I was mistaken.

In 1986, the U.S. also sold arms to Iran to fund Contra rebels in Nicaragua, leading to the Iran-Contra scandal. Reagan professed ignorance of the plot's existence and quickly called for an Independent Counsel to investigate. Ten officials in the Reagan Administration were convicted, and others were forced to resign. Secretary of Defense Casper Weinberger was indicted for perjury and later received a presidential pardon from George H.W. Bush, days before the trial was to begin. In 2006, historians ranked the Iran-Contra affair as the ninth-worst mistake by a U.S. president. [18]

so lets build a few more nuclear facilities for the next airplane highjacked to hit...are you thinking all this through at all?

and I am dead serious...nukes must go so that the next war can still be fought with soldiers

the endgame you seem eager for may not work out the way you will it and then what when nothing remains but dust, bugs and keith richards?

war mongering cons
peace loving libs

not a tough choice really

war will happen, all I'm saying is we better make sure that the nuclear option is always the last resort for everyone involved

besides the less of them that still remain the less chance a terrorist can get one

(CBS/AP) Sectarian violence is spreading in Iraq and the security problems have become more complex than at any time since the U.S. invasion in 2003, a Pentagon report said Friday.

In a notably gloomy report to Congress, the Pentagon reported that illegal militias have become more entrenched, especially in Baghdad neighborhoods where they are seen as providers of both security and basic social services.

hmm provide security and basic social services works and kill em all fails...again facts your linguiality is cool but your facts are fool

Money makes the world go round, the world go round, the world go round....

New ABC DocuDRAMA Blames Clinton For 9/11, Praises Bush

It's sort of surprising that ABC's picked it up, to me. I've had a lot of people tell me about it, my friends told me about it...And from what I have been told, the film really zeros in on the shortcomings of the Clinton administration in doing anything about militant Islamofascism or terrorism during its administration. It cites failures of Bill Clinton and Madeleine Albright and Sandy Burglar.

How does it deal with President Bush? Salon has a review:

Condoleezza Rice gets that fated memo about planes flying into buildings, and makes it very clear to anyone who'll listen just how concerned President Bush is about these terrorist threats —†despite the fact that we’≤e given little concrete evidence of the president's concern or interest in taking action. Maybe my memory fails me, but the only person I remember talking about Osama bin Laden back in 1998 was President Clinton, while the current anti-terrorist stalwarts worked the country into a frenzy over what? Blow jobs. In the end, "The Path to 9/11" feels like an excruciatingly long, winding and deceptive path, indeed.
---------------
Fairy tales can come true...it can happen to you...

52 So, you're saying the answer is unilateral nuclear disarmament?
(MISTAKE THE OPOSITION"S ARGUMENT)

How about we give up all our weapons?
(ARGUE THE OPPONENT'S POINT IN THE ABSURD TO DISCREDIT IT AS SERIOUS.)

This is no longer a serious argument. I thought you were a serious adult; obviously, I was mistaken. (STATE THE OBSVIOUS ABOUT HIS OWN ARGUMENT IN THE ABSURD; IMPUNE THE CREDIBILITY OF TH EOPPONENT; CLAIM HIS ORIGINAL ASSESSMENT OF HIS OPPONENT AS "SERIOUS" WAS A MISTAKE.)

Posted by: factchecker at September 1, 2006 08:44 PM
(ASSHOLE.)

rewriting history just in time for the midterms may have been a better title

Thanks Doody for telling it like it is

facts is both skilled in taking things out of context and spelling...sometimes, as we both saw a blatant spelling error FIR example earlier from facts or lack therof

nobody is perfect Facts...even Schrub, admit it, it feels good

ABC swiftboats the former US president just in time to save the incumbent GOP--more news at 11

swiftboats as a verb...I like it, it has wikiality potential

Swiftboat, swiftboating, swiftboater, swiftboated...

ABC
Clinton on the Politics of Terror

The Former President Spoke to ABC News From the International AIDS Conference in Toronto
By JAKE TAPPER and CINDY L. SMITH

Aug. 15, 2006. TORONTO ó Taking a break from his work at the XVI International AIDS Conference in Toronto on Monday, former President Clinton warned Republicans not to politicize the London terror arrests, slammed Sen. Joe Lieberman, whom he campaigned for just a couple weeks ago, and tackled some of the controversies surrounding his work to fight AIDS.

"I don't think the thought in that London bomb plot has any bearing on our Iraq policy," Clinton said.

"The Republicans should be very careful in trying to play politics with this London airport thing, because they're going to have a hard time with the facts."

Clinton said that the London terror plot had raised two questions about the Republicans' political strategy.

"They seem to be anxious to tie it to al Qaeda. Ö If that's true, how come we got seven times as many troops in Iraq as in Afghanistan?" he said. "Why have we imperiled President [Hamid] Karzai's rule and allowed the Taliban to come back into the southern part of Afghanistan? Why was Iraq deemed to be seven times more important than finding the al Qaeda leaders for the last five years?"

Secondly, Clinton asked why the administration and congressional leadership had opposed tighter security on cargo containers at ports and airports.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2314440&page=1

just thinking about how many planes have been rerouted, stopped, turned back in the last few months I wonder how much thought politicians in general have given to the idea of terrorism used as a tool of dread as opposed to carrying out actual actions

imagine the possibilities

I made a mis-state. It felt good to admit it.

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It took Ronald Reagan to bring down the Evil Empire

proud he stands poised with shoulders square that steely glint above the commanding jawline.
his cape rustling and flapping in the wind he utters that now famous line: "duh. i can't recall. duh."

effin moron.

Factchecker:

"Ed, No, we don't have to kill them all. We just have to kill their leaders. But there will be civilians killed. See World War II, Civil War, Revolutionary War, etc"

Wow you have done some serious research, easy for keyboard Colonels like you to talk about "civilians killed". Please tell us more. We need to hear your opinions on everything. You seem so wise. It’≥ not too late, the Army will still take you (under 42?). I suggest getting your brave ass over to Iraq and give us a first hand report. You might be able to change things, you could be Colonel Factchecker.

I have noticed something the last few days. The neoconsuperfratboy / C-student in chief controlled message is starting to rot. The message has been dead for some time but it is really starting to rot. Can you smell it? All you have to do is read the crap posted by the (minor trolls), where is TRH, or LBH, or any reasonable dissent. Are you conservatives taking the "labor day" weekend off? F#ck%n Unionists.

#76 Spy:

"It took Ronald Reagan to bring down the Evil Empire

proud he stands poised with shoulders square that steely glint above the commanding jawline.
his cape rustling and flapping in the wind he utters that now famous line: "duh. i can't recall. duh."

Now there you go again. Any more pills Nancy?

"Never Re-Elect Anybody"

Kinky Friedman-2006

Ed:

I owe you an apology. I did not realize that you were picking up Doody (I hope you wore a glove), I thought you were leaving it. I have read what you have to say, and I feel I owe you an apology. Thanks for setting Doody straight, he needs help. Doody needs all of our help.

Pentagon gives gloomy Iraq report

Sectarian violence is spreading in Iraq and the security problems have become more complex than at any time since the U.S. invasion in 2003, a Pentagon report said Friday.

In a notably gloomy report to Congress, the Pentagon reported that illegal militias have become more entrenched, especially in Baghdad neighborhoods where they are seen as providers of both security and basic social services.

The report described a rising tide of sectarian violence, fed in part by interference from neighboring Iran and Syria and driven by a "vocal minority" of religious extremists who oppose the idea of a democratic Iraq.

Death squads targeting mainly Iraqi civilians are a growing problem, heightening the risk of civil war, the report said.

"Death squads and terrorists are locked in mutually reinforcing cycles of sectarian strife," the report said, adding that the Sunni-led insurgency "remains potent and viable" even as it is overshadowed by the sect-on-sect killing.
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Just when I think it's hell in Iraq it gets worse and I think well that wasn't hell but this is. And then it gets worse. And worse. And worse. Where's bottom?

uncledad,

Taking the weekend off but have rethought my opinion about some things. Afghanistan was a no brainer after 911. Bin Ladin was there and operating out of that country. Even the Clinton administration knew that. To transform the Middle East after Afghanistan? Saddam was an easy target simply because of his past transgressions. I was in favor of removing Saddam but now think he should not have been priority one. Iraq is essentially the same re pre-war status minus Saddam. The postwar life in the no-fly zones of the north and south are essentially the same with all the turmoil concentrated in and around the central portion of the country. Many conservatives may disagree with me but we did have Saddam contained in the sense that he was isolated within his own country.

Priority after Afghanistan in the middle east should have been the birth place of radical Islam. Saudi Arabia. But, since we will not drill for oil here in the western hemisphere or convert to nuclear energy, that was simply going to be a non-starter. And before you blame it on Bush family ties to oil, every president has bowed toward Mecca when it comes down to it. They do it for political and economic reasons while the Muslims bow toward Mecca for religious reasons.

Thank you in advance for considering my dissent as reasonable. Does your band have any weekend gigs in the works? Rock on!

uncledad,

I agree with Kinky. There was a time in this country when public servants served their term and did not consider re-election simply because elected office was not meant to be a career, but meant as a means to serve your community and then return home to live under the laws that you helped to create. When I see the likes of Thurmond and Byrd being re-elected numerous times it makes me wonder what state of mind the voter is in when they punch their ballot. Granted, our constitution only limits the term of service of the presidency, simply because they did want the english form of a royal government. Now the royalty lies in the congress. Say what you want about the Bush dynasty and the potential Clinton dynasty, but Byrd has been there over 40 years as had Thurmond.

Building a Better Mirage

NIST's 3-Year $20,000,000 Cover-Up
of the Crime of the Century

Factless! Once again you mention Norway in one of your posts. You also refer to WWII a lot. I must repeat my self: US and UK never STARTED that war. Winston Spencer Churchill is one of my heroes as well, so is one of your greatest presidents ever: Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Read the following and wheap:

Look to Norway!
The "Look to Norway"-speech by U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt was given during the handover ceremony of the Royal Norwegian Navy ship HNoMS Kong Haakon VII 16 September 1942.
In the speech the President among other things said: "If there is anyone who still wonders why this war is being fought, let him look to Norway. If there is anyone who has any delusions that this war could have been averted, let him look to Norway; and if there is anyone who doubts the democratic will to win, again I say, let him look to Norway." The speech served as an important source of inspiration to Norwegians fighting the German occupation of Norway and the rest of Europe as well as for the resistance fighters of other small countries during World War II. The speech also made an impact on Norwegian-Americans and the rest of the American public's opinion on the struggle in Europe. The impression of the Norwegian's situation had been severely damaged by an article by the American reporter, Leland Stowe, who happened to be in Oslo on the day the Germans marched into the city. He witnessed shocked Norwegian civilians standing around watching the Germans march down the parade street Karl Johans gate. He interpreted this as indifference and acceptance on the part of the Norwegian population and wrote a stinging article in Time and several newspapers which severely damaged the American public's opinion of the Norwegian resistance and therefore their motivation to help Norway and Europe. The speech definitely corrected that impression. The speech is still referenced and quoted today. The President had already in a speech held 13. April 1940 praised the Norwegian resistance. Roosevelt's interest in Norway was in part due to the good relations established by the Norwegian Crown Prince and his wife and minister Morgenstierne.

Pentagon Cites Spike In Violence in Iraq
Averting Civil War Called Main Goal
By Ann Scott Tyson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, September 2, 2006;

Rising sectarian bloodshed has pushed violence in Iraq to its highest level in more than two years, and preventing civil war is now the most urgent mission of the growing contingent of 140,000 U.S. troops in the country, according to a new Pentagon report released yesterday.
Executions, kidnappings and other sectarian attacks targeting Iraqi civilians have soared over the past three months, contributing to a 51 percent rise in casualties among the population and Iraqi security forces, the report said. More than 3,000 Iraqis are killed or wounded each month, and by July, 2,000 of the casualties were the result of sectarian incidents, it showed.
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Hurah! I made a hyperlink!

9-11 UPDATE

The well known house organ of the White House "Vanity Fair" has obtained the NORAD tapes of 9-11. Some folks got some 'splaining to do.

http://www.vanityfair.com/features/general/articles/060801fege01

Dubious links for Petroleum Fund
A Norwegian ethical watchdog group says that NOK 250 million (USD 38.6 million) of the national Petroleum Fund is invested in American companies helping to develop the next generation of anti-personnel mines. Norwatch, a publication of Future in our hands (FIOH), reported on fund connections to two US weapons programs, "Spider" and "Intelligent Munition Systems", which aim to be the next level of land mines, citing Human Rights Watch (HRW) as their source.

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Poor discredited David, desperately still trying to convince us of a grand evil conspiracy by the Neocon Death Cult. I think your keen journalistic skills would be better served helping Al Gore find Manbearpig. And I'm being super super serial!

(Pssst. I'm not being super super serial. You're pathetic. I know my sarcasm was probably obvious to most, but David has a knack for misreading things...)

Diplomatic broadside
The US ambassador to Norway gave a speech full of polite but very firm criticism of the Norwegian oil fund's blacklisting of American companies. US ambassador to Norway Benson K. Whitney spoke to the Norwegian Institute of International Affairs (NUPI) on Friday, and made it clear that shared core values "like fairness, transparency, justice, dialogue, ethics" gave way to "disappointment and surprise" due to the failure of Norway to live up these ideals when investing its petroleum riches. "It's one thing for an individual Norwegian to get up one morning, read the paper, decide they don't like a company for some reason, and sell their stock. This is a private decision with limited impact," Whitney said.

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erling 86, you mean the FDR who provoked the Japanese into attacking Pearl Harbor then sat back and allowed it to happen so he could get the US involved in WW11 after promising over and over he would not get the US involved in that war? THAT FDR?

The assessment is in and I have been declared a terrorist.

Why I am a Terrorist

by Charles Sullivan

http://www.opednews.com

According to the twisted logic recently espoused by Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, the failure to support illegal, immoral and unnecessary wars defines me as a terrorist. But let me be clear about where I stand: I know who the real terrorists are and can name each one of them.

Everywhere you go in America you see the slogan, "Support our troops." You see it on bumper stickers, storefronts, flags and banners, yellow ribbons and even in the windows of private homes. But what does it mean to support our troops? Is it to send them into harm's way; to invade and occupy sovereign nations in illegal wars for empire? Is it to ask them to commit heinous crimes, to maim and to kill innocent civilians; to torture, insult, and to humiliate people who have done us no harm? Is it to steal the natural wealth that belongs to other nations and turn it over to American corporations?

If that is what it means, then I cannot support our troops. I cannot wish them well if their purpose is conquer other people, and plunder the wealth of other countries that have done us no harm. That would require me to endorse crimes against humanity conducted under the guise of national security and patriotism. I cannot do that-I will not. It is simply wrong.

Neither should we, as we so often do, confuse supporting our troops with supporting the president, or wrongful and immoral policies of corrupt government. The president and his ilk do not support our troops or he would not use them as pawns; he would take care of them when they come home broken and torn with psychic scars. He does not care about them-they are only a means to an end.

No, the best way to support our troops is to take a principled stand; to hold the moral high ground-to bring them home alive and whole. A government must not be allowed to require any of its citizens to engage in immoral or criminal behavior on its behalf. When a government behaves like a crime syndicate it does not mean that the people should follow its example-they must provide a better alternative, and refuse their allegiance to it.

So if the failure to support a government's wrongful policies makes me a terrorist-so be it. If speaking truth to power makes one a terrorist-sign me up; move me to top of the NSA and FBI lists of suspects. Send forth the assassins with their rifles. If exposing the lies and corruption that attends power makes me a terrorist-I will proudly wear the crown and bear the cost. I will cheerfully take my place alongside other terrorists with names like Thoreau, Debs, King, Gandhi, Einstein, Zinn, Christ, and Gerald.

Gerald, that means more than half the people in this country are considered terrorists. I guess that's what all those brand spanking new halliburton detention camps are for.

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Here is a good reason to always re-evaluate your loyalties.

For Whom the Heart Bleeds Not

Paul Craig Roberts

09/01/06 "Information Clearing House" -- -- With mainstream media, such as William M. Arkin in the washingtonpost.com and Keith Olbermann and Joe Scarborough on MSNBC, taking up my emphasis on the moronic and fascist character of the Bush regime, the gates are open for Democrats to begin the task of bringing to an end the pointless, costly, and illegal war that is doing America's cause so much damage and that is strongly opposed by a majority of Americans.

A no-brainer. So what did the Democrats do? They sent out an appeal that we stop hunters from shooting Alaska's gray wolves from airplanes.

Shooting defenseless creatures from the air is murder, whether it is wolves killed by hunters or hapless civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Gaza and Palestine who are strafed and bombed by US and Israeli aerial warriors.

Why are Democrats more concerned about hunters' crimes against wolves than they are about the US and Israeli governments' crimes against civilians?

Can we take seriously the Democrats' concern with Alaskan wolves when Democrats voted overwhelmingly to support Israel's massacre of Lebanese women and children and the Bush regimes’†massacre of tens of thousands of Afghan and Iraqi civilians?

What are we to make of a party whose heart bleeds for wolves, but not for people.

According to the Democrats' appeal, more than 550 wolves have been shot in unsporting actions from the air. One gets the impression that US and Israeli military aviators also see it as sport when they gun down thousands of civilians on the ground below.

The reason for the Democrats' impotence is known to us all. The party is owned lock, stock and barrel by AIPAC just as is the Republican Party. As long as AIPAC clings to its belief that policies that overthrow secular Middle Eastern governments and replace them with Islamic clerics are good for Israel, the Bush and Olmert regimes will continue the war crimes for which they are despised.

I will post Little Differnce in my next post.

#95 Saladin, make no mistake those Halliburton Concentration Camps will be filled up by people like me.

Little Difference

As we enter the twenty-first century, I have come to the realization that there is little difference between the Democrats and the War Party of the bushits. Even with little difference between the two parties I may still vote because I do not want to give up my right to vote.

The reason for me now questioning to vote for Democrats is the Democrats are also warmongers. The Democrats will give you a bone with some meat on the bone so the soup can have some flavor. The bushits will give you a bone but they scrape all the meat off the bone. How you enhance the flavor of your soup that is for you to figure out. With either party in power it will be important for the 90% of Americans to master the art of making soup. Each home will be a soup kitchen for the poor and disenfranchised 90% of Americans.

In trying to find out the difference between the Democrats and the bushits there is now little difference between the two parties. The Democrats will ram a poker up your ass and the poker is straight with a curved section at the end that is similar to the War Party. Pulling the poker out of your rectum will create problems and healing will take a long time.

The bushits will ram a poker up your ass. The poker is straight and attached to the poker is a curved section as we see with some fireplaces to spread the burning wood. This poker goes in but when the bushits pull the poker out of your ass, your rectum is shot to hell. Healing of the rectum takes a long, long time. As you can see, there is little difference between the Democrats and the bushits or War Party regarding the pokers that are rammed up your rectum.

Either party is going to screw the 90% of Americans and the Democrats are now linked to the bushits and they are operating with little difference from the War Party. So either way you look at it you are going to have a poker rammed up your ass.

P.S. I have one more point to make that either party will give Nazi Americans shit. The Nazis will give us more shit and the Democrats may give us less shit. Yet, we cannot forget the fact that we will have to chew on shit. The only difference will be more shit or less shit for our shit eating smiles.

P.P.S. B.O.H.I.C.A.! What an appropriate word for our times! Bohica means BEND OVER HERE IT COMES AGAIN! Do you have that feeling of constantly bending over to be rammed by some Nazi? If you do, please remember to protect and hold onto your cajones so they are not rammed by the Nazis. A shot to hell rectum is enough of a bad experience. Try to avoid the ball busting experience as much as possible!!!

Pre-Game "analysis", Last two paragraphs exercepted here:

The Plamegate Hall of Shame
Instead of Cheney or Rove or Libby, the real culprits are favorites of the Washington elite and the mainstream press.

by Fred Barnes
09/11/2006, Volume 011, Issue 48

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A few diehards in the media have tried to keep the conspiracy notion alive. Michael Isikoff of Newsweek asserts that what Armitage did and what Rove did were separate, and thus a White House smear campaign could still have gone on. Yes, but it didn't. Jeff Greenfield of CNN recalled a Post story in September 2003 that said "two top White House officials" had contacted six reporters "and disclosed the identity and occupation of Wilson's wife." But the Post itself has in effect repudiated this dubious story.

What's left to do? Fitzgerald, in decency, should terminate his probe immediately. And he should abandon the perjury prosecution of Libby, the former Cheney aide. Libby's foggy memory was no worse than that of Armitage, who forgot for two years to tell Fitzgerald he'd talked to the Post's Woodward but isn't being prosecuted. Last but not least, a few apologies are called for, notably by Powell and Armitage, but also by the press. A correction--perhaps the longest and most overdue in the history of journalism--is in order.

--Fred Barnes, for the Editors
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In his medium-length Article, Barnes listed in order of Culpability:

Armitage
Powell
Fitz
Justice Dept.
Wilson
Media

I would put lying-Wilson at the top, followed by the overwhelmingly Left Media post Novak's July `03 initiating `leak' article! No chick-or-egg question here! Lying-Joe started the whole thing for his & wife's piece of Fame and Fortune! They are the true `Winners', along with our host, Mr. Corn (though Barnes neglected to mention David in above article)!

Are you ready for some College Footbals?!?! Go Horns and Georgia Tech against/upset them Irish!

Gerald, the democrats are nothing but fascist enabling traitors. If they gain power in Nov. I am certain nothing whatsoever will change.

#100

Do you have that feeling of constantly bending over to be rammed by some Nazi? If you do, please remember to protect and hold onto your cajones so they are not rammed by the Nazis. A shot to hell rectum is enough of a bad experience. Try to avoid the ball busting experience as much as possible!!!

No.
Do you?
Or do you just have a very vivid fantasy life you feel the need to share? Why do so many post here turn into bad gay porn?

Interview with Former Malaysian PM Mahathis Mohammad
". . . [T]he United States is not as powerful as it's made out to be. It is, for example, a bankrupt nation. It owes the world 14 trillion dollars, and it is truly able to finance itself and the war and the supply of arms to Israel, through the money that is lent to the United States by rich countries, some of which are Muslim countries. And if you stop using the US dollar . . . you can continue to sell oil, but insist on being paid in euros, or yen, or whatever. If you do that, then the US dollar will not be half the value that it has today, and if it doesn't have the value that it has today, it cannot spend money producing arms and supporting aggressive actions by the Israelis. "
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The muslamiac hordes don't have to fire one bullet to take us down. All that needs to happen is for the rest of the planet to finally get fed up with our war mongering, empire building, and natural resource pillaging and dump the dollar, then we are through.

New York Times September 1, 2006 Villagers See Violations of a Cease-Fire That Israel Says Doesn't Exist By ROBERT F. WORTH AITA AL SHAAB, Lebanon, Aug. 29 ÔøΩ A group of local men were unloading bags of donated food from a truck here Tuesday morning when the tok-tok-tok of heavy machine-gun fire rang out. Men shouted; children screamed and ran. Then, as it became clear the firing was just the Israeli tanks again up on the hillside above town, they went back to their routines. The shooting ÔøΩ and occasional mortar fire ÔøΩ goes on regularly around this village, a Hezbollah stronghold near the border. To local people, it is sheer provocation, and a flagrant breach of the cease-fire that ended the fighting on Aug. 14. To the Israelis, it is legitimate self-defense. Aita al Shaab ÔøΩstill has many Hezbollah fighters in it,ÔøΩ said Miri Eisin, an Israeli government spokeswoman. ÔøΩThey donÔøΩt wear uniforms and are wary about showing their weapons, and we use all means to differentiate between those with weapons and those without.ÔøΩ More broadly, the shooting underscores two fundamentally different views of the uneasy truce that has held in southern Lebanon for the past two weeks. Secretary General Kofi Annan cited numbers from the United Nations forces on Tuesday indicating that Israel had violated the cease-fire nearly 70 times, while Hezbollah had done so only 4 times. But the Israelis do not believe there is a cease-fire to violate. ÔøΩWe are at a cessation of hostilities in Lebanon, not a cease-fire,ÔøΩ Ms. Eisin said. She added that Israel had the explicit right to self-defense under United Nations Resolution 1701, which does not use the term cease-fire. That difference is apparent every day across southern Lebanon. Israeli tanks crisscross the dry brown hills, shooting into the fields and smashing up houses and stone walls. Teams of Israeli soldiers have planted their nationÔøΩs flag atop bluffs here and sometimes detained Lebanese men, releasing them days later. No one seems to know where the mobile Israeli units are based, or how to avoid them.
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This is bullshit. Israel stays in Lebanon and continues to shoot at civilians and provoke response, then whines about the Hezbollah militia having weapons to defend themselves, all the while claiming this provocation is self defense?

Israel rejects Syria's arms embargo pledge Israel last night rejected Syria's pledge to Kofi Annan, the United Nations secretary general, that it would prevent weapons being smuggled to Hizbollah across its border with Lebanon. ''Experience has taught us to be sceptical about undertakings made by Syria," said Mark Regev, a senior spokesman for the Israeli foreign ministry. ''Syria has not always been up-front about its dealings with Hizbollah and what is required is a 180-degree change of attitude from Syria towards Hizbollah." Posted Sep 2, 2006 08:38 AM PST Category: MIDDLE EAST Of course, Israel will reject any move from Syria indicating that it's trying to make a concerted effort to comply with the UN resolution. And Regev's comment about 'being sceptical' about Syria's keeping its promises could well be said about Israel's relationship with the UN since its inception.
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Just what the hell is Syria supposed to do to convince Israel it is sincere? Maybe hand the country over to Israeli control? I guess if all the Arab people would simply bow down and pledge allegience to Israel and sacrifice every speck of sovereignty, then they might feel secure, or, maybe not until they have terrorized all of them out of the region, that seems to be the game plan.

#93 Sal, I was thinking more in line of New Deal, and of course the speaches about Norway during the war. I've also heard the rumers that FDR knew about the attack on Pearl Harbor beforehand, but I find it hard to belive. Though I know for a fact, that he was just waiting for an excuse to join the UK in the war, hence the close relationship between him and Churchill, which resulted in the "Lend and Lease" deal early in the war.

For anyone interested in knowing what REAL journalism looks like:

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5819

'Why did Blair send my teenage son to fight an illegal and dishonest war?'
By Terri Judd
Published: 02 September 2006
The mother of a British soldier caught up in one of the bloodiest incidents in Iraq this year has accused Tony Blair of sending her son to fight an "illegal" war. Dani Hamilton-Bing, whose son tried to quell rioters in Basra after the downing of a Lynx helicopter in May that killed five British soldiers, attacked Mr Blair for putting the lives of over-stretched troops in Iraq and Afghanistan at risk. The early learning lecturer's comments are unusual because tradition dictates that military families of serving soldiers do not speak out. But Mrs Hamilton-Bing said that anger at seeing her son sent to fight a dishonest war had driven her to take action, adding that many other military families shared her views. She said: "My son joined to fight legal wars, not wars based on lies and deception.

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Building a Better Mirage

NIST's 3-Year $20,000,000 Cover-Up
of the Crime of the Century

Yeahhh, and here's how they did it. Busted, without a doubt!!!

Government conspirators caught!

Here's just part of the secret tapes...

“Smith, I like the idea of killing innocent Americans as much as the next government official, but we’ve already stretched ourselves pretty thin here. We’ve got to find evil contractors to help us blow up the WTC, evil capitalists who’re willing to profit from it even while they’re sitting in the building that they know is about to be hit by an airplane, murderers who will kill the passengers of the plane we’re not crashing and help dispose of the bodies, an evil airline to take the supposedly-crashed plane back, evil military types with missiles to launch one at the nation’s military command center... the list goes on and on. And I think we’ve got our war pretty well sewn up with what we’ve got here. I don’t see why we need to attack a Pennsylvania field.”

"Yes sir. But you haven’t heard the rest of my idea. Instead of just hijacking the plane and crashing it into the field - that would be easy enough - we’ll hijack the plane, fly it to Ohio, unload everyone (and kill them of course) then create a fake crash site in Pennsylvania and transport the bodies there along with some fake wreckage!"

"Wouldn't it be easier to just hijack the plane and crash it?"

“Well of course. But if we do it my way we could let literally hundreds MORE unnecessary people in on our plan!”

“You’re right Smith, when it comes to a huge secret conspiracy like we’re planning, the more people involved, the better.”

“Oh, and before we kill the passengers and crew, we’ll record their voices and use some brand new and still pretty untested technology to place phony phone calls to their loved ones telling those loved ones that they’re going to die! That way we’ll have even more people involved.”

"Smith, you're a genius. No one can concoct a super-secret conspiracy like you."

what are you writing a novel? outstanding!

81 Ed: I owe you an apology. I did not realize that you were picking up Doody (I hope you wore a glove), I thought you were leaving it. I have read what you have to say, and I feel I owe you an apology. Thanks for setting Doody straight, he needs help. Doody needs all of our help.

Posted by: uncledad at September 2, 2006 12:31 AM

Help me, plz hlp me. Bend over.

War?

There is something important to be learned from the recent experience of the United States and Israel in the Middle East: that massive military attacks, inevitably indiscriminate, are not only morally reprehensible, but useless in achieving the stated aims of those who carry them out.

The United States, in three years of war, which began with shock-and-awe bombardment and goes on with day-to-day violence and chaos, has been an utter failure in its claimed objective of bringing democracy and stability to Iraq. The Israeli invasion and bombing of Lebanon has not brought security to Israel; indeed it has increased the number of its enemies, whether in Hezbollah or Hamas or among Arabs who belong to neither of those groups.

I remember John Hersey's novel, "The War Lover," in which a macho American pilot, who loves to drop bombs on people and also to boast about his sexual conquests, turns out to be impotent. President Bush, strutting in his flight jacket on an aircraft carrier and announcing victory in Iraq, has turned out to be much like the Hersey character, his words equally boastful, his military machine impotent.

The history of wars fought since the end of World War II reveals the futility of large-scale violence. The United States and the Soviet Union, despite their enormous firepower, were unable to defeat resistance movements in small, weak nations - the United States in Vietnam, the Soviet Union in Afghanistan - and were forced to withdraw.

Even the "victories" of great military powers turn out to be elusive. Presumably, after attacking and invading Afghanistan, the president was able to declare that the Taliban were defeated. But more than four years later, Afghanistan is rife with violence, and the Taliban are active in much of the country.

The two most powerful nations after World War II, the United States and the Soviet Union, with all their military might, have not been able to control events in countries that they considered to be in their sphere of influence - the Soviet Union in Eastern Europe and the United States in Latin America.

Good thing they just hate us because of Israel and Iraq. I was getting worried.

DUBAI (Reuters) - Al Qaeda called on non-Muslims especially in the United States to convert to Islam and abandon their 'misguided' ways or else suffer, according to a video tape posted on a Web site on Saturday.

The speaker was identified as Azzam the American, also known as Adam Yahiye Gadahn -- an Islamic convert from California wanted for questioning by the FBI and who U.S. authorities believe to be involved in an information campaign for al Qaeda.

"To Americans and the rest of Christendom we say, either repent (your) misguided ways and enter into the light of truth or keep your poison to yourself and suffer the consequences in this world and the next," Gadahn said in English.

He appeared in the video dressed in a white turban and seated in front of a computer and books.

Al Qaeda's second-in-command Ayman al-Zawhari made a brief statement at the beginning of the tape -- dated September 2006 -- urging viewers to listen carefully to the message, entitled: "An Invitation to Islam".

Beyond the futility of armed force, and ultimately more important, is the fact that war in our time inevitably results in the indiscriminate killing of large numbers of people. To put it more bluntly, war is terrorism. That is why a "war on terrorism" is a contradiction in terms. Wars waged by nations, whether by the United States or Israel, are a hundred times more deadly for innocent people than the attacks by terrorists, vicious as they are.

The repeated excuse, given by both Pentagon spokespersons and Israeli officials, for dropping bombs where ordinary people live is that terrorists hide among civilians. Therefore the killing of innocent people (in Iraq, in Lebanon) is called accidental, whereas the deaths caused by terrorists (on 9/11, by Hezbollah rockets) are deliberate.

This is a false distinction, quickly refuted with a bit of thought. If a bomb is deliberately dropped on a house or a vehicle on the grounds that a "suspected terrorist" is inside (note the frequent use of the word suspected as evidence of the uncertainty surrounding targets), the resulting deaths of women and children may not be intentional. But neither are they accidental. The proper description is "inevitable."

So if an action will inevitably kill innocent people, it is as immoral as a deliberate attack on civilians. And when you consider that the number of innocent people dying inevitably in "accidental" events has been far, far greater than all the deaths deliberately caused by terrorists, one must reject war as a solution for terrorism.

That's a GREAT argument Gerald. You're a genius. So all a terrorist needs to do is hide amongst civilians, and then we will never go after him, b/c our going after him will inevitably kill innocent civilians. So you created a policy whereby terrorists can kill us with impunity. Too bad you're not Predisent. Man, you are a fucking moron, bro.

You are a great example of the intellectual and moral confusion Donald Rumsfeld was describing the other day. Unfortunately, your head has rocks in it, and you'll never understand.

Factless,

Perhaps you should check that Winston Churchill quote you posted in #14.

See any mistakes?

Try some Scripture on for size: Matthew 7:5 -"Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then thou shalt see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."

But it's futile to point this out, isn't it? It's a waste of time because you're nothing but a pseudo-intellectual wingnut asshole. You come here only to annoy. You have nothing of value to share.

Did I spell everything correctly? Good. Have a nice day, dickhead.

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...from the Office of Making Things Exponentially More Complicated Than Necessary

"Well, we'd have to hire a contractor and probably a hundred or so workers. And find a way to clear the building for several days before hand. Oh, and we'd have to make sure that all those contractors were as evil as we are and wouldn't mind killing thousands of their fellow citizens. Shouldn't be a problem."

"Great. Let's do that too. Add that to the list."

“Excuse me?”

“Yes Johnson?”

“Why do we need to collapse the buildings? Don’t we think Americans will be angry enough at hundreds of dead airline passengers and WTC workers?”

“Shut up Johnson.”

“Yes sir.”

"Hey! And let's let lots of people in the WTC know that it's going to happen so they can benefit by insider trading!"

"Now that's thinking Smith. Get right on it! So... are we decided then?"

(chorus) "Yes sir!"

"Sir, I have another great idea."

"Let’s hear it Smith."

“Let’s get a third plane and crash it into the Pentagon!”

“Wow. The Pentagon. I like the way your murderous mind works Smith. Somebody put three planes on the requisition list.”

“Well, instead of an actual plane, I was thinking we could just use a missile and tell the American public that it was a plane.”

“Hmm... so we don’t hijack a third airplane?

“Oh no, we still hijack a third plane, but we don't crash it, instead we fire a missile into the Pentagon and say that it's the plane we hijacked.”

“Wouldn’t it be easier to just crash an actual plane?”

“Well, yes, it would be easier. But I was talking with Stevens here, from the Office of Making Things Exponentially More Complicated Than Necessary, and he thinks that not only should we use a missile instead of the plane that we’re going to have to hijack anyway, we should offload all the passengers and crew somewhere else, kill them, and then return the plane to the airline.”

“So we kill the passengers and crew at some other location and then transport all the dead bodies to the Pentagon?”

“No we’ll just dump the bodies somewhere else, maybe a mass grave in Iraq - dress them all up to look like dead Kurds or something.”
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Forget Occam's razor, this is "sock'em's putty knife"... hahahaha

DOODY --- According to Micki, to make corn flakes you just need a lot of hot air...

Oh, I forgot to add: Norwegians are the experts on trolls. Once I even traveled past Trollheimfell. Trollheimfjell? Anyway, in the fjordland of Norway...

Instant Corn Flakes - just add hot air.

Factless. . . You're nothing but a pseudo-intellectual wingnut asshole. You come here only to annoy. You have nothing of value to share. Did I spell everything correctly? Good. Have a nice day, dickhead.

Posted by: Don at September 2, 2006 04:15 PM

He may be a dickhead too but he's definetly as an asshole.

Did I spell everything correctly? Good.

Don, what was funny is, immediately after that preaching about language usage and misspelling, he had at least 3 words misspelled himself. lol

courier-journal.com > Opinion
Rumsfeld 'delusional'
Saturday, September 2, 2006

I just read about Donald Rumsfeld's recent diatribe as to who might be "appeasers."

He has lost his grip on reality. He is as delusional as he is wrong.

It says much about how pointless is Bush's blunder in Iraq that it must be explained in terms of a war that ended 60 years ago.

Instead of tagging them as "fascists," Rumsfeld may as well call the Shiites the Union and the Sunnis the Confederates -- or how about a comparison to the players in the War of the Roses? Rumsfeld's grasp on reality is as tenuous as is his grasp of history.

President Bush, Vice President Cheney and Rumsfeld have, with their incompetence and misguided motivations, done more damage to America than has the real enemy, al-Qaida.
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Rumsfeld's Four Questions
The secretary's ghastly speech to the American Legion.
By Fred Kaplan
Posted Wednesday, Aug. 30, 2006, at 6:48 PM ET
The fifth anniversary of 9/11 looms before us, and it's hard to say which artifact is gloomier: the awful memory of the attack itself (especially to those of us who witnessed the towers crumbling) or the spectacle of our leaders wrapping themselves in its legacy as if it were some tattered shroud that sanctifies their own catastrophic mistakes and demonizes all their critics.

Already, the sermons are beginning. Yesterday, speaking before the officers of U.S. Strategic Command in Omaha, Neb., Vice President Dick Cheney touted the war in Iraq and denounced the "self-defeating pessimists" who oppose it. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld did much the same at the American Legion's convention in Salt Lake City. Tomorrow, President Bush will give the first of several speeches making the case for staying the course?his third such series since he declared victory three and a quarter years ago onboard the U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln.

Cheney's speech passed by almost completely unnoticed, perhaps because it was just too delusional for comment. (Of the war in Iraq: "We wage this fight with good allies at our side." Of present-day Iraq and Afghanistan: "Fifty million people are awakening to a future of hope and freedom." Would that both statements were so.)
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We need some sense now, not faith
PAUL KRUGMAN

Do not believe the propaganda that Joe Lieberman?s defeat hands US parties over to extremists

NED Lamont?s victory in Connecticut, I saw a number of commentaries describing Joe Lieberman not just as a ?centrist? ? a word that has come to mean ?someone who makes excuses for the Bush administration? ? but as ?sensible.? But on what planet would Lieberman be considered sensible?
Take a look at Thomas Ricks? ?Fiasco,? the best account yet of how the U.S. occupation of Iraq was mismanaged. The prime villain in that book is Donald Rumsfeld, whose delusional thinking and penchant for power games undermined whatever chances for success the United States might have had. Then read Lieberman?s May 2004 op-ed article in The Wall Street Journal, ?Let us have faith,? in which he urged Rumsfeld not to resign over the Abu Ghraib scandal, because his removal ?would delight foreign and domestic opponents of America?s presence in Iraq.?

Seems Don "the dickhead" has likewise resorted to ad-hominem attacks on the messengers of news that he would prefer not to hear. Too bad. Go cry in your corner and dream of the Clinton era when you no doubt ra ra'd the right wing slime tabloid journals.

127 Factchecker is a coward.

Father forgive them for they know not what they say.

Let us keep in mind the injunction of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.: "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter."

Gerald: Father forgive them for they know not what they say. More accurate: Forgive them for they no naught.

The War President Is 0 for 5

What Bush called the Axis of Evil --like Poland and Czechoslovakia who were similarly demonized by the Nazi Hitler --never had WMD. What they do have in common with one another is poverty and "third world" status --not unlike that of six other nations similarly threatened and/or attacked by the big bully on the block. Those nations are Grenada, Panama, Somalia, Sudan and now Afghanistan and Iraq! It is Bush, rather, who threatens world peace; it is Bush who has failed on five fronts.

#131 Drewp, you are more accurate! At times I try to be nice to the "naughts."

132 Bush did good work staffing FEMA. In addition to appointing "Brownie", a lawyer by trade who knew nothing about Emergency Preparedeness, he cut 30 billion from the FEMA budget.

When hurricanes hit Florida, FEMA hired felons to do damage assessment and authorize payments. When Miami newspapaers discovered fraudulent disbursement of millions of dollars, Bush left Brownie in charge, which is where Brownie was when Katrina struck east of New Orleans.

New Orleans largly survived the hurricane. There was some "overtop" flooding at the head of the industrial canal but the flooding that cause the most damage was a result of cat 3 levees that failed completely, leaving citizens stranded on the roofs of their houses surrounded by 20 feet of water. FEMA was no where to be found. 1,500 americans died as a result of the flooding. It was criminal. Someone should go to jail.

Please note the Bush adminstration had also slashed 100's of millions of dollars from the Army Corps of Engineers budget for project to sure up the aged levees.

You can blaim Nagin, the governor of you want but it is the Federal government jobs to use its resources to save lives in national disasters. It took us two days to get to the sunami in the INdian Ocean. Why did it take 5 days for FEMA and the federal government to get tot eh Superdome? It took CNN less than 24 hours.

Enough incompetence. Incompetence costs lives. Send the criminals back to private business and elect people who want to govern, not just control power.

The federal governemnt just approved a multi-billion dollar contract for a new space vihicle to take us back to the moon. Isn't it time re-think our priorities? How about fixing the levees and setting building standards in New Orleans? How about a national initiative for clean energy? How about spendingour national security money on capturing terrorists, not invading and destroying countries with no relationship to 9/11.

Had enough?

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Bush Urges Seniors to Get Back to Work
$9 Trillion National Debt Cited

Sat Sep 2, 2006 6:16:52 pm
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Bush Defends Ban on War Grief
President Calls on Nation to Forget War's Human Cost
Sat Sep 2, 2006 6:16:52 pm

Washington, DC ? President Bush on Thursday defended his decision to exclude grief from U.S. war coverage, saying that lost lives and limbs show that the "evildoers still hate us" and thus confirm that we are "on the path of freedom."

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Holy bilge water, conspiracists! You're sinking! One notable aspect of the "FDR knew about Pearl Harbor" theory is that its methodology is similar to the 9/11 conspiracies and "creation" science theories -- ignore reams of evidence in favor of what you are trying to disprove and focus on "missing links" and tiny (but oh, so MONUMENTAL!!) discrepancies in the record. Absent all the documentary evidence, the conspiracy theorists use that absence as "proving" that a cover-up has taken place.

I think one reason people hone after the FDR "knew" about Pearl Harbor conspiracy theory is they still resent the New Deal, Social Security, collective bargaining, banking/