Hey Corn,

Whats with all these Hubris postings, have you written a book?

Thanks David. I look forward to the show.

You've really kicked up quite a bit of dust. The swell of media coverage is growing like Katrina storm surge.

Joe Conason: White House Guilt in CIA Leak Case Remains
Truthdig, United States 9/6/06
... The latest developments in the Valerie Plame Wilson case's revealed in Hubris ... is that the first official to disclose Valerie Wilson’≥ covert identity as ...

Time for Answers
New York Times, United States - 9/6/06
For three years, Washington has been periodically consumed with the question of who unmasked a covert CIA agent to the columnist Robert Novak. ...

Joe Wilson: The End of an Error
Town Hall, DC - 2 hours ago
... James Bond spy games. How covert was Valerie Plame at the CIA? Her top-secret code name was "Valerie Plame.". All this should have ...

Joe Wilson: The End of an Error
FrontPage magazine.com, CA - 4 hours ago
... James Bond spy games. How covert was Valerie Plame at the CIA? Her top-secret code name was "Valerie Plame.". All this should have ...

Joe Wilson: The end of an error
WorldNetDaily, OR - 5 hours ago
... James Bond spy games. How covert was Valerie Plame at the CIA? Her top-secret code name was "Valerie Plame.". All this should have ...

Joe Wilson: The End of an Error
Human Events, DC - 5 hours ago
... James Bond spy games. How covert was Valerie Plame at the CIA? Her top-secret code name was "Valerie Plame.". All this should have ...

CHENEY WANTED VALERIE PLAME OUT Free Market News Network, FL - 6 hours ago... Paramilitary specialists updated the Vice President on an extensive covert action program in motion that was designed to pave the way to a US invasion. ...

Pardon Libby Only AFTER Media Responds to Subpoenas RedState, VA - 7 hours agoOf course, it was obvious when Patrick Fitzgerald did not indict anyone for "outing" Plame, that she was not a covert agent covered by the Act. ...

Rove withheld crucial CIA leak email for nearly a year, new book ... Raw Story, MA - 10 hours ago... which White House critics suggest was part of an organized effort to discredit a critic of White House policy on Iraq by outing his wife, Valerie Plame Wilson. ...

Valerie Plame Worked on WMD in Iraq Morons.org - 10 hours agoLast week we learned that the original source of the leak of Valerie Plame's identity was Richard Armitage, former secretary of state Colin Powell's number two ...

David, what about the York bloggingheads challenge? Now that more of the book has come out, I bet he's glad you're going to be busy.

Jeanne, Bush snapped: "Did you tell her I intend to kick his sorry mother fucking ass all over the Mideast?"
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How mature. Very....diplomatic.
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How funny to see proof that Bush swears. JUST like normal people do. But god forbid some comedian at a correspondant's dinner in his majesty's presence, or ANYONE in power's presence says fuck. They pretend to be so above the riff raff, but they're just like us. There's no such thing as class. We're all the same.

here is some true hubris exhibited by an elevator sign in the wtc2!

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=9101989575044001945&hl=en-GBIt

This elevator sign out performed the core of the building!

The largest of the 47 core columns were 18"x36", with steel walls 4" thick near the base and tapering in thickness toward the top, and were anchored directly to the bedrock.

Making them one of the world’s largest heat sinks.

Apparently the heat was too intense for the steel columns and they all melted at the same instant, bringing down the building.

Maybe they should have made the core out of the same material this sign is made of.

Does a major national broadcast network want to stain itself by presenting an irresponsible, slanderous, fraudulent, "docu-drama" to the American public?

Not if you and I have the last word -- but either way, we're about to find out.

The ABC television network -- a cog in the Walt Disney empire -- unleashed a promotional blitz in the last week for a new "docudrama" called "The Path to 9/11". ABC has thrown its corporate might behind the two-night production, and bills it as a public service: a TV event, to quote the ABC tagline, "based on the 9/11 Commission Report".

That's false. "The Path to 9/11" is actually a bald-faced attempt to slander Democrats and revise history right before Americans vote in a major election.

The miniseries, which was put together by right-wing conservative writers, relies on the old GOP playbook of using terrorism to scare Americans. "The Path to 9/11" mocks the truth and dishonors the memory of 9/11 victims to serve a cheap, callous political agenda. It irresponsibly misrepresents the facts and completely distorts the truth.

ABC/Disney executives need to hear from the public and understand that their abuse of the public trust comes with a cost. Tell Walt Disney CEO Robert Iger to keep this right-wing propaganda off the air -- we'll deliver your message:

http://www.democrats.org/pathto911

Listen to Pete Seeger's New 60-Second Recording

It's a slightly over a minute 'public service message'.

Come to Camp Democracy!

Camp Democracy opened on the Mall in Washington on Tuesday, and will run through September 21st. We need you to come and join us now!

Here's what the Washington Post had to say about us this morning:
http://campdemocracy.org/node/234

or
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/05/AR2006090501225.html

Check out the schedule of upcoming events:
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President Bush was driven by a visceral hatred of Saddam Hussein, which he privately demonstrated in expletive-laden tirades against the Iraqi dictator. In May 2002--months before he asked Congress for authority to attack Saddam-Bush bluntly revealed his ultimate game plan in a candid moment with two aides. When told that reporter Helen Thomas was questioning the need to oust Saddam by force, Bush snapped: "Did you tell her I intend to kick his sorry mother fucking ass all over the Mideast?" In a meeting with congressional leaders, the President angrily thrust his middle finger inches in front of the face of Senator Tom Daschle to illustrate Saddam's attitude toward the United States.

Corn, does your book answer the question, Who sent Daschle the anthrax-gram?

the agency smuggled Iraqi exiles to a top-secret site in the Nevada desert and trained them in sabotage and explosives. The Iraqi force, known as the Scorpions, was being trained to seize an isolated Iraqi military post-in order to create a provocation that could trigger a war with Iraq.

Reminscent of the Bay of Pigs and Nazi Germany's "provocation" of Poland. There's more than one way to start a war when you want a war. The question is, why did we want the war and which justifications given to congress were knowingly false. . . which is a high crime. Maybe Bush had a good reason. Let's hear it.

When Bush was first briefed that no WMDs had been found in Iraq, he was totally unfazed and asked few questions. "I'm not sure I've spoken to anyone at that level who seemed less inquisitive," the briefer told the authors.

I've heard that quote before. I bet we can figure out who said it.

Colin Powell remains intensely bitter and angry about his UN Security Council Speech, during which he presented the case for war. After it became clear that much of his speech was wrong, he refused to have anything to do with CIA director George Tenet. "It's annoying to me," Powell told the authors. "Everybody focuses on my presentation....Well the same goddamn case was presented to the U.S. Senate and the Congress and they voted for [Bush's Iraq] resolution....Why aren't they outraged....The same case was presented to the President. Why isn'' the President outraged? It's always, 'Gee, Powell, you made this speech to the UN.'"

Yet Powell remains friends with the president. They have dinner.

Powell believes Tenet blew it. Powell must know Cheney had his own intellegence group at the Pentagon setup by Rumsfeld and run by Feith. It must be that Powell feels Tenet should have fought harder for what the CIA believed - they did not find signs of WMD in Iraq.

Instead, Tenet declares slam-dunk case (huh?) and get the Presidential medal of Honor. Powell serves out his term, resigns and waits for the next opportunity to serve his country.

Powell ought to be mad at the president for using Powell's impeccable integrity and reputation to profess untruthiness about WMD in Iraq to ambassadors from all over the world at the UN (I watched.) Bush (or Cheney or Tenet) played Powell for the fool and Powell lost his credibility.

Powell did his job. Tenet didn't. Bush didn't.

Rove told MSNBC anchor Chris Matthews that the Wilsons "were trying to screw the White House so the White House was going to screw them back."

Rove knows how to pick a fight. He's off the hook for his role in leaking Classified information but not without a price. The price will be identified at a later date.) I can't wait. You KNOW its a big fish because you know its bigger than Rove.

U.S. intelligence officials suspected Iranian intelligence was trying to influence U.S. decision-making through Ahmad Chalabi's Iraqi National Congress

Is there any evidence Chalabi was acting on behalf of Iran and that Iran got the war they wanted?

this is the inside story of how President Bush took the nation to war using faulty and fraudulent intelligence. It is a news-making account of conspiracy, backstabbing, bureaucratic ineptitude, journalistic malfeasance, and, especially, arrogance.

Posted by David Corn at September 6, 2006 11:38 AM

Don't read it less than two hours after eating.

Snakes on a Plame

AMAZON IS DYING: disaster to take everyone's breath away

- that global warming and deforestation were pushing the entire enormous area towards a "tipping point", where it would start to die.

The consequences would be awesome. The wet Amazon Basin would turn to dry savannah at best, desert at worst. This would cause much of the world to become hotter and drier.

In the long term, it could send global warming out of control, eventually making the world uninhabitable.

FIREDOGLAKE.COM
When Reality Meets the Rove (link)
9/6/6

Thanks to everyone?s generaous contributions today, we?ve now raised $13,000 ? an excellent start to our goal of $65,000 for the production of Marcy Wheeler?s book on the CIA leak case.

People have asked what will be done if the book makes a profit, and I can tell you that we will take whatever money we make and use it to develop more fine books. There is no shortage of bright lights in the blogophere.

Anyone who would like to contribute can do so here:

Marcy Wheeler is one of the very best of the researchers investigating the leak of Valerie Plame Wilson?s identity as a covert CIA officer. Her work has been consistently on the mark and her conclusions almost always confirmed as facts dribble out. Hers will be the definitive study of what happened and why.

Announcing CIA Leak Investigation Book by Marcy Wheeler
Firedoglake
By Jane Hamsher on CIA Leak Case

#87 Jeanne (last thread)
You had a line of questions in your post.
The answer is obvious: Oil and MONEY for Halliburton and the weapons Industry!!
#11 Boyd, the reason for war:
Weapons Industry: "Hey George! We need another war to renew our stockpiles of weaponary. Making a buck at the same time is'nt to bad either!
And by the way, tell the Israelis to cick off a war a little later so we can increase our weapon supply to them as well." This is a little simplified, but never the less...

Digby had some thoughts on this yesterday well worth considering:

Armitage may have just been a gossipy little busybody from way back, but that doesnít explain LIbby and Judy and Rove and Cooper or the "two senior administration officials" who tried to get the Washington Post to print that Wilsonís CIA "wife" had sent Wilson on a "boondoggle." Rove said she was "fair game." You simply cannot persuade me that every last person involved in this did not know that the head of the Joint Task Force on Iraqís WMD at the CIA in 2003 was the person they were busy making sure was publicly outed.

Wilson scared the hell out of them because they knew who his wife was and knew what she knew. This is about Cheney and the CIA, whom he and all the neocons have thought were a bunch of liberal appeasers for decades because they have so often failed to back up the wingnutsí most fanciful, paranoid wet dreams about the boogeyman of the day ó wet dreams, by the way, which were always, everytime, proven false in the end.

Did you catch it? The JTFI was ramped up several months before 9/11 even occurred. Well, THAT is new, isnít it?

Washington Post Editorial
Ending the Lawlessness
President Bush wants congressional action on detainees. That's good -- as long as he doesn't get the bill he wants.
Thursday, September 7, 2006;

PRESIDENT BUSH took major steps yesterday toward cleaning up the mess his administration has made of the detention, interrogation and prosecution of those captured in the war on terrorism. In a White House speech, the president announced that all 14 high-value detainees being held in secret CIA facilities abroad had been transferred to military custody at Guantanamo Bay for trial and registered with the International Red Cross. The Pentagon simultaneously released a new directive on detentions and a manual on interrogations that conforms with the Geneva Conventions and that explicitly bans techniques once authorized by Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, such as hooding and the use of dogs. More broadly, Mr. Bush asked Congress to approve a legal framework for the trial of terrorist suspects, which would make the nation's response to the threat posed by al-Qaeda the product of democracy rather than secret executive decisions. Yet as Mr. Bush took these constructive steps, he also undermined them. He delivered a full-throated defense of the CIA's "alternative set of procedures" that the world properly regards as torture. With an election pending and families of Sept. 11 victims as his audience, he demanded legislative action on issues of enormous complexity in the few remaining days of the congressional session. And the bill he sent to Congress would authorize the administration to resume some of the worst excesses of the past five years.

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Good morning O'Reilly!

Blair Tries to Contain Revolt in Own Party As 8 Quit Government
Junior Members Urge Premier to Resign
By Kevin Sullivan and Mary Jordan
Washington Post Foreign Service
Thursday, September 7, 2006;

LONDON, Sept. 6 -- Prime Minister Tony Blair, the second-longest-serving British leader since the 19th century, struggled to contain a growing political rebellion Wednesday, as eight junior members of his government resigned amid new demands for him to set a date for his departure or step down now. "I no longer believe that your remaining in office is in the interest of either the party or the country," said the resignation letter of Tom Watson, the highest-ranking of the eight Labor Party legislators who quit Blair's government. Blair, whose once-soaring popularity has been badly damaged by the war in Iraq and his close alliance with President Bush, finds himself in a predicament reminiscent of that faced in 1990 by Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. After serving nearly 12 years, a defiant Thatcher was ousted in a rebellion by members of her Conservative Party, bringing a graceless end to her historic premiership.

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It is a news-making account of conspiracy, backstabbing, bureaucratic ineptitude, journalistic malfeasance, and, especially, arrogance.

Posted by David Corn at September 6, 2006 11:38 AM

Mr Corn, are you admiting that "news-making" is more important to you than "news-reporting"....aint that what got DAN RATHER in trouble?

My last post. Obvislouy, being assosiated with George W. Bush takes it's toll.

Norway is a NATO (North Atlanatic Treaty Organization) member. When the US went to war in Iraq, Norway opposed. We were then asked by the Bushco why we did'nt support the US going to war, since we're member of NATO. The reason is stated below in article 1 and 5 in the Treaty:

Article 1
The Parties undertake, as set forth in the Charter of the United Nations, to settle any international dispute in which they may be involved by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security and justice are not endangered, and to refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force in any manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations.

Article 5
The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area. Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.

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An armed attack to either of the member states, mean a MILITARY attack.

Wall St Journal on David Corn

http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110008903

Corn Chips
David Corn of The Nation, who was the first to suggest that Valerie Plame's "outing" violated the Intelligence Identities Protection Act, now has established that it did not, as he writes on the left-wing rag's Web site:
Her specific position at the CIA is revealed for the first time in a new book, Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War, by the author of this article and Newsweek's Michael Isikoff. The book chronicles the inside battles within the CIA, the White House, the State Department and Congress during the run-up to the war. Its account of Wilson's CIA career is mainly based on interviews with confidential CIA sources. . . .

Valerie Wilson [her married name] was no analyst or paper-pusher. She was an operations officer working on a top priority of the Bush Administration.

But although she was stationed overseas under nonofficial cover, "in 1997 she returned to CIA headquarters and joined the Counterproliferation Division." That was more than five years before Richard Armitage leaked her identity, too long for that disclosure to have violated the act.

Nonetheless, the New York Times, which led the witch hunt for the leaker, still describes her as "covert"!

Oh, and by the way, if her work was so important to national security, what is Corn doing disclosing it, "based on interviews with confidential CIA sources"? Maybe Attorney General Alberto Gonzales should appoint a special prosecutor--no, make it a very special prosecutor--to investigate who leaked this vital information to the ears of Corn.

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IMPEACH DAVID CORN.......

or how about this one.......

DAVID CORN TO BE INDITED TOMORROW...

These two books are so f*cking depressing:

Hubris...How we were conned/lied into war by Bush, et al.

Fiasco...The total incompetence of how the war was conducted, after they lied us into it.

Our troops have died, and continue to die, for nothing. The only patriotic thing to do is to bring them home immediately, and to vote against every member of Congress who was suckered by these criminals.

Bob

32-Our troops have died, and continue to die, for nothing. The only patriotic thing to do is to bring them home immediately, and to vote against every member of Congress who was suckered by these criminals.

Bob

Posted by: Bob in North Dakota at September 7, 2006 07:08 AM

No, BOB, to cut and run would not be patriotic, it would be idiotic! The troops, who died for nothing, would be those brave Marines who died in Somalia! Do you remember Osama saying that when we CUT AND RAN after that attack he knew we were a "PAPER TIGER"! Running from IRAQ will lead to more and bigger attacks. Don’t forget that when Israel "CUT AND RAN" from GAZA, they got rockets into ISREAL.

32 -
These two books are so f*cking depressing:

Hubris...How we were conned/lied into war by Bush, et al.

Fiasco...The total incompetence of how the war was conducted, after they lied us into it.

STOP DEPRESSION, DONT BY OR READ: "HubriS" OR
"Fiasco"

Good morning Tre Bloc! Chew on this:

US and Europe are united in rejection of 'war on terror'
By Stephen Castle in Brussels
Published: 07 September 2006 The Independent UK
George Bush's beleaguered foreign policy has been dealt a serious blow as a poll showed that Americans and Europeans reject the US President's pursuit of the "war on terror". For the first time in its five-year existence, the Transatlantic Trends opinion poll found that more Americans opposed President Bush's handling of international affairs - 58 per cent - than approved of it - 40 per cent. The survey, conducted by the German Marshall Fund of the United States, provides a devastating commentary on the failure of President Bush and Tony Blair to convince the public of the merits of the "war on terror". President Bush's approach has been shown to be increasingly unpopular, despite the fact that citizens on both continents share a growing fear of terrorism. European opposition to US foreign policy has risen over the past five years from 56 per cent to 77 per cent.

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The myth of fair elections in America
The debacle surrounding the Republican victory in 2000 demonstrated to the world that America's electoral process is wide open to abuse. But as Paul Harris discovers, the system has actually worsened since then
Thursday September 7, 2006
Observer.co.uk
One person, one vote. Count the totals. The one with the most wins. The beauty of democracy is its simplicity and its inherent fairness. It equalises everyone, even as it empowers everyone. What could go wrong? In America, it turns out, quite a lot. Everyone remembers the debacle in Florida, 2000. The recounts, the law suits and the eventual deciding of a presidential election - not by the voters - but by the Supreme Court. The memory still causes a collective shudder to America's body politic.
Which makes the fact that America's system of voting is now even more suspect, more complicated, and more open to abuse than ever before so utterly shocking. Across the country a bewildering series of scandals or dubious practises are proliferating beyond control. The prospect of a 'second Florida' is now more likely not less. There are many - and not all of them are conspiracy theorists - who believed it may have happened in Ohio in 2004.

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Be aware!!

"I'm the decider, and I decide what is best. And what's best is for Don Rumsfeld to remain as the Secretary of Defense." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C. April 18, 2006

Don't you just love when Socialists from other countries - cowardly countries we have to rescue in time of war - come here and try to tell us about the inequities of America?

Well, Erling, let's all sit around like the people in your country do and sing "Kumbayah" and hope the world will be a better place.

I know you're older now, but have you ever held a real job in the real world? I would venture to say, if you worked at all, you had some kind of dull government job. I generally find that people who have had nothing to live for are the poor souls who feel that there is nothing worth dying for.

More's the pity. You seem like a nice, if horribly misguided and naive person.

38 factchcker. . . .continuing the work of George W Bush turning allies into enemies.

The US is a paper tiger, don't think so? Can't find Osama been forgotten in five years, still cannot control Iraq, and is losing it's way in Afcrapistan, so let's see where did this asshat administration suceed? Warrantless wiretapping it's citizens, torture of Prisoners of War, no matter what the doofus maintains, it is essential to conform to the Geneva Convention article 3. Otherwise the enemy will use the same tactics on our guys when they capture them. Yep, you guys are sure beating the drum for a coward, drunk, coke head, liar, war criminal, failure. Think that your abject obsequiousness will be rewarded in the future? Sure, you will be destitute, hungry, and homeless, but hey you will have a lot of company in that situation. Keep on drinking the Kool Aide, they love the fact that you are too dumb to figure out what is going on, just keep on repeating the lies and crimes as truth and virtue. Then when you are in the detention camps and will work for survival, you can think about it, you will have lots of time hopefully.

#36 -

It is actually worse than that, as evidenced by the polls. Consider:

According to most media outlets more Americans favor Democratic CandyDates this election cycle than favor Republican CandyDates (Do you chose to go to the polls for the Date with the most Candy?) BUT, because of the way districts are gerrymandered and allocated, Congressional Quarterly analyzes that the GOPhers would retain both houses, if the elections were to be held tomorrow.

This despite dismal news from Iraq and elsewhere.

In other words the entire system of political representation is totally unrepsonsive to the will of the American electorate.

It is Democracy Hogwash, but at least we have clean pigs.

And that doesn't even begin to talk about the failure of voting machinary and the rigging of elections.

David, I was the first question this morning on Diane Rehm’≥ show talking about David Broder’≥ misinformed editorial in this mornings Washington Post. This is exactly the kind misinformation that puts our Democracy at risk. In David's efforts to always show how complex a man he is, he usually does his part to neuter the Democratic Party while giving aide and comfort to the likes of Karl Rove. With Democrats like David, do we really need any detractors?

I wish you would get a hold of Broder and get him straightened out. He’≥ aiding this administration in our slouching toward fascism.

Republican senators join Democrats to urge Specter to hold bill that could give Bush more wiretap power
Brian Beutler
Published: Wednesday September 6, 2006

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Let me post this little quaint number.

It is the NUMBER FOUR.

As in the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which states:

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

In the context as written, it is the warrant which distinguishes reasonable from unreasonable searches, and no warrants shall be issued without cause.

The president's wiretapping policy clearly violates the Constitution of this Nation and he should be held accountable.

Republican senators join Democrats to urge Specter to hold bill that could give Bush more wiretap power
Brian Beutler
Published: Wednesday September 6, 2006

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Let me post this little quaint number.

It is the NUMBER FOUR.

As in the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which states:

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

In the context as written, it is the warrant which distinguishes reasonable from unreasonable searches, and no warrants shall be issued without cause.

The president's wiretapping policy clearly violates the Constitution of this Nation and he should be held accountable.

WTF, the bushbots are still spouting the idiocy that saddam and obl were in cohoots, even though bush finally admitted it wasn't true. We now have as many dead troops, officially, but the actual figure is much higher, as the number killed on 9/11. All these murdered people snuffed out because of lies and greed. God only knows how many more will be sacrificed to this empire, middle east building scheme.

Tri Blog, do you remember when Ronald Reagan cut and ran in a New York minute? When wiser people told him not to place our troops in harms way in Lebanon Mr. Reagan went ahead and put them in Beirut anyway? It resulted in 350 dead marines. What did it accomplish? It gave birth to Hezbollah! Great job!

I remember my tour in Viet Nam thinking that we couldn’t leave because I believed those who told us if we did, dominos would fall throughout SE Asia. Guess what? The dominos stopped falling after we left the area…what irony. What fuels the terrorists is the fact we’re over there. The moment we leave, much of the fuel that fires Muslim discontent will be quelled.

I grew up in a right wing family so I know what the right wing does when facts fly in the face of what they believe. They put their fingers in their ears and they close their eyes.

Sal, it does not matter you know, more people are killed in car accidents every day so the war aint no big deal.

#38 Factchoker!
"Dull government job"???
If you concider the Navy and Army government, so, yes! I've even seen action!
Other jobs I've had: Commercial Pilot, North Sea Deep Sea Diver and Navigational Officer with the Merchant Fleet. As I've said on the blog before, I've been to 72 different countries! Where have YOU been? Want my CV? Send me an e-mail!

> No, BOB, to cut and run would not be patriotic, it would be idiotic!

blah blah blah. Heard the same thing in 1968, If we pulled out of Vietnam, Thailand would fall, Australia would fall, South America would fall, Mexico would fall, then America would fall. The Communists would be emboldened. blah blah blah. The Communists were destined to be emboldened the second we got involved in Vietnam, a war we could not win.

The fact of the matter is, we are involved in a war where we don't belong, and we do NOT have the power to affect the changes we desire (Iraqis loving each other and worshipping Bush). Ain't gonna happen. Better to pull out now and let the country fall apart. It's going to happen ANYWAY. The Kurds want their oilfields back, the Shia want payback, and the two groups make up 80% of the electorate. Iraq, as a country, is screwed. The papers to split apart the country are being drafted NOW in the Iraqi Parliament. It was totally predictable the nanosecond we invaded. We have, by our utter and continued incompentence in managing the war, only made the foreseeable inevitable. Cut and run from a STUPID foreign policy, concocted by a STUPID president.

There are limits to American power. That is what the Bush-ites can't accept. Get used to it.

Bob

Have to go to a school meeting. I'll be back!!!

> No, BOB, to cut and run would not be patriotic, it would be idiotic!

blah blah blah. Heard the same thing in 1968, If we pulled out of Vietnam, Thailand would fall, Australia would fall, South America would fall, Mexico would fall, then America would fall. The Communists would be emboldened. blah blah blah. The Communists were destined to be emboldened the second we got involved in Vietnam, a war we could not win.

The fact of the matter is, we are involved in a war where we don't belong, and we do NOT have the power to affect the changes we desire (Iraqis loving each other and worshipping Bush). Ain't gonna happen. Better to pull out now and let the country fall apart. It's going to happen ANYWAY. The Kurds want their oilfields back, the Shia want payback, and the two groups make up 80% of the electorate. Iraq, as a country, is screwed. The papers to split apart the country are being drafted NOW in the Iraqi Parliament. It was totally predictable the nanosecond we invaded. We have, by our utter and continued incompentence in managing the war, only made the foreseeable inevitable. Cut and run from a STUPID foreign policy, concocted by a STUPID president.

There are limits to American power. That is what the Bush-ites can't accept. Get used to it.

Bob

Got an Ant Problem? Use Aspartame
Source: Dr. Joseph Mercola
For all the dire health problems associated with aspartame -- the worst of them being cancer -- the original "anything-but-sugar" substitute may have an ideal purpose to exist, not as a food additive, but as an ant poison
Already aware of aspartame's origins as a toxic chemical, a health-conscious consumer with an ant problem emptied one packet of aspartame in the corner of each of her bathrooms two years ago. The "sweet" solution worked brilliantly, as she's seen no signs of carpenter ants crawling around for the past year.
Aspartame may be just the thing for getting rid of fire ants (impervious to many poisons) too, although this solution takes a bit more effort. Initially, fire ants ignored their aspartame treat until a light rain moistened it. After the rain, however, the fire ants came back with a vengeance, taking the aspartame back to the mound by the hundreds. Within two days, any evidence that fire ants existed at all, save for an empty mound, vanished.
No mystery aspartame works like a pesticide, as the asparctic acid contained in this toxic product is a well-documented excitotoxin that causes specific brain cells to become excessively excited to the point they quickly die, just as both kinds of ants did.

Makes you wonder if aspartame is a far safer, better alternative to getting rid of lawn and home pests than the average toxic pesticides found at your neighborhood hardware store ...
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Has anyone else ever heard of this or tried it?

Army Bans Some Interrogation Techniques
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: September 6, 2006
Filed at 9:50 pm

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A new Army manual bans torture and degrading treatment of prisoners, for the first time specifically mentioning forced nakedness, hooding and other infamous procedures used during the five-year-old fight against terrorism.

Delayed more than a year amid criticism of the Defense Department's treatment of prisoners, the revised Army Field Manual released Wednesday updates a 1992 version.

It also explicitly bans beating prisoners, sexually humiliating them, threatening them with dogs, depriving them of food or water, performing mock executions, shocking them with electricity, burning them, causing other pain and a technique called ''water boarding'' that simulates drowning, said Lt. Gen. John Kimmons, Army Deputy Chief of Staff for Intelligence.

Officials said the revisions are based on lessons learned since the US began taking prisoners in the war on terror, started in response to the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on America.

An international outcry about prisoner rights began shortly afterward. Human rights groups and some nations have urged the Bush administration to close the prison at the US naval base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, since not long after it opened in 2002 with prisoners from the campaign against al-Qaida in Afghanistan. Scrutiny of US treatment of prisoners shot to a new level in 2004 with the release of photos showing US troops beating, intimidating and sexually abusing prisoners at Abu Ghraib in Iraq - and then again with news of secret facilities.

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Compare the Wush's speech yesterday with what Larry Johnson had to say about it:

What George Bush Didn't Say About Guantanamo
by
Larry C Johnson

If we had to rely solely on the word of George W. Bush about the progress in the war on terrorism and the value of information obtained from Muslim prisoners in U.S. custody we would be in trouble. Bush's speech today from the White House was both self-serving and misleading. I give the President credit for one thing--he's a great propagandist. Let's ignore for the moment that terrorist attacks in which people have been killed or wounded have quadrupled since 2001. Are you getting this? We have four times as many attacks with people being killed and wounded by terrorists and Bush wants you to believe you are better off. But I digress.

According to Bush, secret prisons and torture have kept America safe. Not entirely true. While fessing up to the secret prisons, one of the critical things Bush failed to tell the American people was that CIA interrogators learned the hard way that torture was not an effective interrogation method. Books written by Jim Risen and Ron Suskind during the past two years provide compelling accounts that torture against people, particularly Khalid Sheikh Mohamad (KSM), was ineffective. Suskind recounts that KSM, one of the masterminds behind the 9-11 attack, was waterboarded--a technique designed to make you feel like you are drowning. Interrogators also threatened to rape and murder his family. KSM reportedly replied, "Do what you will, my family will be with God".

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Compared with:

BUSH: As his questioning proceeded, it became clear that he had received training on how to resist interrogation. And so, the CIA used an alternative set of procedures.

I cannot describe the specific methods used. I think you understand why. If I did, it would help the terrorists learn how to resist questioning and to keep information from us that we need to prevent new attacks on our country.

But I can say the procedures were tough and they were safe and lawful and necessary.

Zubaydah was questioned using these procedures, and soon he began to provide information on key Al Qaeda operatives, including information that helped us find and capture more of those responsible for the attacks on September the 11th.

For example, Zubaydah identified one of KSM's accomplices in the 9/11 attacks, a terrorist named Ramzi Binalshibh. The information Zubaydah provided helped lead to the capture of Binalshibh. And together these two terrorists provided information that helped in the planning and execution of the operation that captured Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

These procedures were designed to be safe, to comply with our laws, our Constitution and our treaty obligations. The Department of Justice reviewed the authorized methods extensively, and determined them to be lawful.

Once in our custody, KSM was questioned by the CIA using these procedures. And he soon provided information that helped us stop another planned attack on the United States. During questioning, KSM told us about another Al Qaeda operative he knew was in CIA custody, a terrorist named Majid Khan (ph). KSM revealed that Khan (ph) had been told to deliver $50,000 to individuals working for a suspected terrorist leader named Hambali, the leader of Al Qaeda's Southeast Asia affiliate known as J.I.

More of the Wush's confession to be used against him in a court of law.

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Alternative methods? Does the CIA stand by Atty. Gen. Gonzales' tortured definition of torture - organ failure or death?

Whats up with Pakistan giving amnesty to the terrorist's? Why has the news media ignored this story?

Factchecker bags groceries during the day and takes hamburger and mcshake orders at night.

Sal, heard of this, talked to a neighbor that tried it and it didn't work, what does work is to mix equal parts of confectioners sugar and borax, that will take out 99% of them quickly. Aspertame is another concotion of big pharma, making money the chemical way.

corky! How ya been? And to answer your question, haven't you heard, bush hasn't been concerned about the big, bad 9/11 boogeyman in quite awhile.

BUBBA GOES BALLISTIC ON ABC ABOUT ITS DAMNING 9/11 MOVIE
By IAN BISHOP Post Correspondent

September 7, 2006 -- WASHINGTON - A furious Bill Clinton is warning ABC that its mini-series "The Path to 9/11" grossly misrepresents his pursuit of Osama bin Laden - and he is demanding the network "pull the drama" if changes aren't made.

Clinton pointedly refuted several fictionalized scenes that he claims insinuate he was too distracted by the Monica Lewinsky sex scandal to care about bin Laden and that a top adviser pulled the plug on CIA operatives who were just moments away from bagging the terror master, according to a letter to ABC boss Bob Iger obtained by The Post.

The former president also disputed the portrayal of then-Secretary of State Madeleine Albright as having tipped off Pakistani officials that a strike was coming, giving bin Laden a chance to flee.

"The content of this drama is factually and incontrovertibly inaccurate and ABC has the duty to fully correct all errors or pull the drama entirely," the four-page letter said.

The movie is set to air on Sunday and Monday nights. Monday is the fifth anniversary of the attacks.

[Allegedly] (rs) [b]ased on the 9/11 commission's report, the miniseries is also being provided to high schools as a teaching aid - although ABC admits key scenes are dramatizations.

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#54 corky, the media hasn't ignored the story. It's been reported on the TV networks, in major newspapers, on the radio. Maybe they haven't used the word "amnesty" but it has been amply reported. Perhaps you missed it.

haven't

Robert, I think this whole ABC, 9/11 fiasco is just a stupid distraction ploy designed to derail the excellent progress the 9/11 truth movement has made. If people are too busy blaming one or the other they won't have time to focus on the reality. A recent Scripps poll shows that 36% of Americans believe, or are highly suspicious, that bushco is somehow complicit in 9/11, either directly involved or had foreknowledge in allowing it to take place. That is not fringe lunacy, that is a significant chunk of the population. Now the hit pieces are coming out of the woodwork, the rats are in the corner. Baffle them with bullshit.

blah blah blah. Heard the same thing in 1968, If we pulled out of Vietnam, Thailand would fall, Australia would fall, South America would fall, Mexico would fall, then America would fall. The Communists would be emboldened. blah blah blah. The Communists were destined to be emboldened the second we got involved in Vietnam, a war we could not win.

Hey Boob, tell that to the millions of cambodians and Vietnamese that were killed after we left, you idiot.

Carrie, who exactly were our allies before the war? France, Russia, China, I forgot what good pals they were.

so democrats have no problem with the fact that 9/11 was an obvious multi-faceted inside job designed among other things as a frame-up on muslims in order to perpetuate the war on terror, but as soon as that frame-up starts to encompass saint clinton they get all outraged about so-called historical accuracy?

fuck you democrats - you made your bed the very instant that you looked the other way and refused to investigate. now it's time to lie in that bed of lies. morons. did you think 9/11 would just quietly go away? ha ha!

Posted by: Euro trash at September 7, 2006 12:13 PM

Why would you call yourself trash? Have some self-respect. What part of Europe do you come from?

Once again congrats David Corn - I bought your book via Amazon last night! Spy On This, please relax and face the consequences of a president that just wont cooperate with the Democrats, United Nations or much of the world. The fate of the world rests on his 'my way or the highway' attitude! What happened to 'We The People'? Conservatives like you need to face this fact alone....

caroline,

I only saw the Pakistan story mentioned once, on the Kieth Olbermann show. Not on the front page anywhere that I could see.This story would seem to undercut Bush's recent campaign to terrorize the American people.

Saladin,

I am not sure what to think about the 9/11 "docudrama". I think distributing something so factually inaccurate to schoolkids is kinda creepy. I smell something fishy. Donald Rumsfeld ran the Searle corporation when it developed Nutrasweet. As soon as they got it it rolling he fired everyone that helped make it. Being a Diabetic, I have consumed massive quantities of it. As far as I understand, it is two amino acids bound together to form a molecule that mimics sugar. Phenylalinine is one of the amino acids used. Maybe if I drink more of it I can damage my brain enough to get a post in the Bush cabinet! HOORAY FOR BRAIN DAMAGE!!

The guys at "Little Green Footballs" are foaming at the mouth about the response to the Disney 9/11 movie. That blog is very funny. They talk alot about trolls, yet it is impossible to post a comment or even log on to the site. I do agree with them that ABC should be free to air the movie without censorship. However the arguement rings hollow when it comes from people that want to censor everything that is not of thier particular point of view. Giving it to schoolteachers through Scholastic is very Kim Jung Il.

David both you and Isikoff were clear and concise on the Diane Rehm show. Even under pressure when your phone rang twice you bounced back and went right to where you hand been interrupted. ( it was funny).

The two questions that I had sent by e-mail ( I am not getting through as often as I used to, I am a serial caller and e-mailer).

1. We have yet to witness anyone or office (Office of Special Plans) held accountable for the pre-war intelligence. In fact many of the same individuals that "cakewalked" (lied)our nation into Iraq have had the freedom to set the stage for military action in Iran.

When will we witness someone or someone's held accountable for the false pre-war intelligence? What is the status of Phase II of the SSCI?

2. Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald's investigation of the Plame leak has been undermined and attacked by journalist and others. Will Bob Woodward and Byron YOrk be required to retract or apologize for any of their claims that this investigation was useless and Valerie Plame's position was not critical or threatened by this leak?

3. My third question comes after listening to the show. Someone asked about Israel, Mossad or Israeli officials being involved with the creation or dessimination of the false pre-war intelligence? YOu answered "that Mossad had not been found to be involved". You went onto to focus on how Ahmed Chalabi had possibly played many sides involved in the invasion.

Have you or Isikoff really delved into the possibility that Israel may have been involved in the creation or dessimination of this false intelligence? Have you really dug into this possibility?

Great Show .. Will be giving a copy of your book to David Willhelm (ran Clinton's campaign)this Sunday at our third Strickland for Governor fund/friendraiser.

#9 Alan.. Truthout's Geoffrey Mallard and Scott Galindez have been doing an incredible job at keeping us in touch with what Gold Star Families,Code Pink and others are continuing to do in front of the White House, Texas and around the world.

It is really worth it to go and listen to their live coverage of these events...including CAMP DEMOCRACY

Surprise Surprise I posted two very polite comments on the ABC 9/11 blogsite and they have yet to appear.

One of my comments was that the program should be called "Desperate Republicans".

In the other comment I repeated what Roger Crossey (CIA) and NBC Terroist Analyst had said on both Scarborough Country and Hardball. Crossey said that he was shocked by "how much the show had gotten wrong". He went onto say that the show was "sheer fantasy, factually wrong and more drama than fact".

These are relatively mild comments I will continue to check and see if they get on.

Is Capt missing in action?

September 6, 2006

Dear Gerald,

While our CODEPINK delegation was in Lebanon witnessing firsthand the pain and suffering caused by the conflict with Israel, US Ambassador John Bolton was at the United Nations trying to block a ceasefire.

Talking a leaf from Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's 2003 criticism of France and Germany as "old Europe", Bolton called the French ceasefire initiative "old thinking". We at CODEPINK believe Bolton is the one who truly represents "old thinking"—®is thinking that might makes right, that we need to go it alone, that compromise is a sign of weakness, are all sadly antiquated notions of power.

This week, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee will vote on whether or not John Bolton will continue to represent the United States at the United Nations. Please call your senators TODAY- Wednesday, September 6- and urge them to oppose John Bolton's nomination as U.S. Ambassador to the U.N.

We are grateful that, despite Bolton's protest, the international community forced a ceasefire through the Security Council, and Italy and France took the lead to send peacekeepers to the border.

CODEPINK is delivering flowers to the French and Italian embassies to thank them for working so steadfastly toward peace.Their contributions of peacekeeping troops—≤,450 from Italy and 2,000 from France—∑ill help enforce the ceasefire along the Israeli-Lebanese border. Please send your own words of gratitude to let them know how much we appreciate their diplomatic efforts.

French Embassy
Email: info@ambafrance-us.org

Italian Embassy
email: stampa.washington@esteri.it

It is time for true diplomacy in our own country. We need to get John Bolton out of the UN and replace him with an ambassador who will acknowledge that we are part of an interdependent, international community. An ambassador who believes in the power of negotiation and international cooperation to create positive change in our world. That is certainly what we need right now to end the violence in Iraq and get our troops home.

With peace and hope,
Allison, Anedra, Dana, Erin, Farida, Gael, Jodie, Katie, Laura, Medea, Meredith, Nancy, Rae, Samantha and Tiffany

P.S. On Thursday, August 31st, Army Specialist Mark Wilkerson joined the growing numbers of war resisters speaking out about their refusal to participate in the illegal war in Iraq. With the support of CODEPINK, after being AWOL for a year and a half, Mark issued a public statement from Camp Casey and then turned himself in to Fort Hood to face the consequences of his courageous decision. Find out more about the work CODEPINK has done with resisters here. For updates about Mark or to support him as he continues his journey click here.

kathleen,

Remember in 2003 ABC had produced a movie about Ronald Reagan? Karl Rove and all the guys a Little Green Footballs flipped out and ABC caved and sold the movie to showtime. Interesting to see what happens when the shoe is on the other foot.

These Republican frauds and scandals have the publics heads spinning. This is just the way Rove likes it. I mean who can keep up?

Polling company owner pleads guilty to fraud
September 7, 2006,

CLARIFY Bush claim not verified. BY JOHN CHRISTOFFERSENP Associated Press Writer

NEW HAVEN, Conn. (AP)_ The owner of DataUSA Inc., a company that conducted political polls for the campaigns of President Bush, Sen. Joe Lieberman and other candidates, pleaded guilty to fraud for making up survey and poll results.

Tracy Costin pleaded guilty Wednesday in Bridgeport federal court to one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud. Costin, 46, faces a maximum of five years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000 when she is sentenced Nov. 30.

As part of her plea agreement, Costin agreed to repay $82,732 to the unidentified clients for 11 jobs between June 2002 and May 2004. DataUSA is now known as Viewpoint USA.

According to a federal indictment, Costin told employees to alter poll data, and managers at the company told employees to "talk to cats and dogs" when instructing them to fabricate the surveys.

An FBI affidavit from 2004 in support of a search warrant quotes a supervisor of the company estimating that 50 percent of the data sent to Bush's campaign was falsified. FBI Special Agent Jeff Rovelli, who wrote the affidavit, said in an interview Thursday with The Associated Press that investigators were not able to verify the claim related to Bush because that data was not located and analyzed.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Edward Chang said results were falsified on several occasions when the company was running up against a deadline to complete a job. Sometimes, the respondent's gender or political affiliation were changed to meet a quota, other times all survey answers were fabricated.

In addition to Lieberman and Bush, DataUSA's other clients included U.S. Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn., and Yale University, according to an FBI affidavit.

Hey Euro trash, you're the idiot! Had we never invaded Cambodia, the communists would have never won the day there. The Prince was doing fine in his balancing act but we decided we needed to shoot ourselves in the foot and invade that country. That terrible decision led to the killing fields that we created. Good job!

Just like when Reagan cut and ran in Lebanon, our actions set in motion a series of events that did not fare well for this nation.

In the other comment I repeated what Roger Crossey (CIA) and NBC Terroist Analyst had said on both Scarborough Country and Hardball. Crossey said that he was shocked by "how much the show had gotten wrong". He went onto say that the show was "sheer fantasy, factually wrong and more drama than fact".

I guess we should believe everything Mr.Cressy says. He would never mislead us, no reputation to protect. we should believe all that is spoonfed to us by democrats, cause after all dems don't lie, is that it?

Carrie, one persons trash is anothers treasure

#72 Corky if the ABC 9/11 show is as lopsided and inaccurate as Cia Roger Crossey has indicated. I wonder if there will be a BOYCOTT OF ABC? I wonder?

It is also amazing and highly questionable that Republican Governor Thomas Kean has allowed so much misrepresentation to take place in the "docu-drama". I am sure his involvement will effect his own credibility and the credibility of the 9/11 Commissions findings.

Could he be trying to confuse the public and undermine the findings of the Commission? I really question Kean's intentions.

I wonder if Bush is able to find his way out of a paper bag?

#75 E.Trash.. The facts are that this group of Republicans have been caught (not prosecuted yet) in more lies and corruption than Democrats can shake a stick at. The American public is unable to keep up with the Republicans "Culture of Corruption" that has taken place under Bush's watch.

I do agree that one should ask questions and be critical of statements that are not backed up by solid facts or evidence to support those statements. As an example you remember the "Iraq has WMD's" mantra before the pre-emptive invasion.

But this ABC 9/11 show and its producer seem intent on blaming the Clinton administration for the 9/11 attack, this is more Rovian twists. Instead of placing the responsibility of National Security at that time squarely on the shoulders of the Bush administration. We know that this administration lives in the "state of denial" but this just goes too far.

FACT ... 9/11 took place under the Bush administrations watch.

The verdict is in, the media corpo-rats are officially in the Bush propaganda business with their new Disneyland adventure film. Soon there will be more corpo-rats on board, stay tuned.

Log onto United for Peace and Justice!

Kathleen, the 9/11 commission has ZERO credibility, that is their own fault. The 5 year anniversary is Monday, 1/3 of America is VERY suspicious of the official story and the rats are scrambling to find someone, anyone else to blame. I myself am enjoying the obvious desperation displayed by these pathetic tactics. The age of the internet will bring them down eventually. Sooner or later heads will roll. It took 20 years for the truth about the bombing of the USS Liberty to come out, but it has and hopefully the survivors will receive justice. And all the decades that Israel has gotten away with their fascist and murderous behavior towards the Arab people has also been brought out into the open because of the internet. I am keeping my fingers crossed that we won't have to wait 20 years to have these traitors tried and jailed for every crime they have committed against their fellow citizens and against those of the middle east.

this ABC 9/11 show and its producer seem intent on blaming the Clinton administration for the 9/11 attack,

this is just too effin bad for the moron democrats - they have had 5 years to figure out what's going on - their first clue should have been the anthrax attacks targeting democrat opponents of the patriot act.
i have neither sympathy nor outrage for this blaming of the clinton admin for 9/11.
let it be the clinton admins fault because you reap what you sow when you appease and enable.
i direct a giant double ha to the democrats.

Yeah we should boycott ABC. I dont think that they would care a whole lot. Our economy has shifted so much to the richest one percent that poor people and what they buy with what little disposable income they have is insignificant. The majority has been so marginalized.

This arguement should not be a partisan one. Like Bush's erosion of the U.S. Constitution, all Americans should be concerned about the abomination ABC has released, regardless of thier political beliefs. Distributing a falsehood of history to schoolchildren is just wrong.

I think maybe Kean has a lucrative deal signed with Disney/ABC. Maybe he is legally bound to shill for the film.

Ground Zero Toxins Critics: Lower Manhattan Was Reopened Despite Knowledge The Air Was Unsafe
A CBS 2 Exclusive Got a World Trade Center Health Problem? Tell Us. Image
Marcia Kramer Reporting (CBS)

NEW YORK Stunning proof has been uncovered that the government knowingly put New Yorkers in harm's way after 9/11.
CBS 2 News has obtained documents revealing that Lower Manhattan was reopened a few weeks following the attack even though the air was not safe.
The two devastating memos, written by the U.S. and local governments, show they knew. They knew the toxic soup created at Ground Zero was a deadly health hazard. Yet they sent workers into the pit and people back into their homes.
One of the memos, from the New York City health department, dated Oct. 6, 2001, noted: "The mayor's office is under pressure from building owners ... in the Red Zone to open more of the city." The memo said the Department of Environmental Protection was "uncomfortable" with opening the areas but, "The mayor's office was directing the Office of Emergency Management to open the target areas next week."
"Not only did they know it was unsafe, they didn't heed the words of more experienced people that worked for the city and E.P.A.," said Joel Kupferman, with the group Environmental Justice Project.
Another part of the memo noted: "The E.P.A. has been very slow to make data results available and to date has not sufficiently informed the public of air quality issues arising from this disaster."
"Unfortunately, it doesn't surprise me," said health protestor Yuichi Tamamo. "For the last five years we've been saying air quality here has been horrible."
It also doesn't suprise Carmen Flores, who lives in an apartment in the Baruch Houses that was engulfed in the 9/11 toxic plume. Her health has deteriorated and she has multiple medicines.
"I feel forgotten," she said. Bruce Sprague, an E.P.A. official in the New York and New Jersey region during 9/11 admited to CBS 2 News the agency was finding alarming air quality readings at Ground Zero and in the surrounding areas.
Sprague said the E.P.A. had written much more conservative health assessments, but the memos had to go to Washington. And when the White House got its hands on them, they -- according to Sprague -- softened them.
The city health department refused to comment on the memo, but inside sources told CBS 2 News the memo is real. And its veracity is not questioned by the Environmental Justice Project's Kupferman.
He calls it "a smoking gun."
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bushco doesn't care about these people any more than they cared about the 3000 who died initially or the thousands murdered in their disgusting blood for oil campaign. They lie about everything and we are ALL expendable.

Saladin,

What is more of a threat to brain cells? Aspartame or Fox News?

#82

Spy, Robert Bowman won his primary, he knows 9/11 was an inside job and he is a democrat. He gave a terrific speech at the LA Conference and I believe he is sincere.

"When people speak to you about a preventive war, you tell them to go and fight it. After my experience, I have come to hate war."

"I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its stupidity. War settles nothing."

"Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels - men and women who dare to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion."

"If all that Americans want is security, they can go to prison. They'll have enough to eat, a bed and a roof over their heads. But if an American wants to preserve his dignity and his equality as a human being, he must not bow his neck to any dictatorial government."

Dwight D. Eisenhower

34th President of the United States

(1953-1961)

Kathleen, If the head of the CIA tells you Iraq having WMD's is a "Slamdunk" and you repeat what you were told by the head of the CIA, is that a lie?
Yes, 9/11 was executed during Bushs'watch and planned under Clintons. I dont blame either man personally, I blame the system that didn't allow the info to be uncovered. One unspecific memo here and one there is not enough.
I try to understand some of you people, Bush is an idiot, yet 9/11 was an inside job pulled off by Bush and his pals(spy) and bush is a moron, yet hes smart enough to lead the republican take over of the world(Gerald). Which one is it?

A Riddle:
I love a massive, oppressive federal government. I want to erode the U.S. Constitution. I love propaganda and I support a government that spends a billion dollars a year on PR. I want to weaken our military by engaging in poorly planned nation building fiasco's. I want to appease and enable radical Muslim religious fundimentalists by giving them lots of new recruits through a heavy handed and ineffective approach to combatting terrorism. I love massive budget deficits and high taxes for the middle class. If terrorist's attack my country with plane bombs and anthrax letters, I won't catch them.

What Am I?

A liberal?

Nope. I am a Neoconservative!

Calling all Republicans! Take your party back before the neocons destroy America!

this ABC 9/11 show and its producer seem intent on blaming the Clinton administration for the 9/11 attack,

Maybe sandy Burgler can shove the tapes down his pants, he obviously has lots of room.

Updated:2006-09-07 12:42:51 Pollster Pleads Guilty to Making Up Results AP
BRIDGEPORT, Conn. (Sept. 7) -

The owner of DataUSA Inc., a company that conducted political polls for the campaigns of President Bush, Sen. Joe Lieberman and other candidates, pleaded guilty to fraud for making up survey and poll results. Bush AP
According to a federal indictment, the owner of a company that conducted political polls for the campaigns of Sen. Joe Lieberman, President Bush and others told employees to "talk to cats and dogs" when instructing them to fabricate the surveys.
Tracy Costin pleaded guilty Wednesday to one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud. Costin, 46, faces a maximum of five years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000 when she is sentenced Nov. 30.
As part of her plea agreement, Costin agreed to repay $82,732 to the unidentified clients for 11 jobs between June 2002 and May 2004. DataUSA is now known as Viewpoint USA.
According to a federal indictment, Costin told employees to alter poll data, and managers at the company told employees to "talk to cats and dogs" when instructing them to fabricate the surveys.
FBI Special Agent Jeff Rovelli said 50 percent of information compiled by DataUSA and transmitted to Bush's campaign was falsified, the Connecticut Post reported Thursday.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Edward Chang said on several occasions when the company was running up against a deadline to complete a job, results were falsified. Sometimes, the respondent's gender or political affiliation were changed to meet a quota, other times all survey answers were fabricated.
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Every single thing connected to this administration is built on a foundation of lies, deception and bloodshed.

>Hey Boob, tell that to the millions of cambodians and Vietnamese that were killed after we left, you idiot.

Which is exactly why we should not have been in that war to begin with. Not our fight.

No doubt there will be a bloodbath in Iraq when we leave. It is a slow-motion bloodbath now. The disintegration of Iraq was guaranteed the second we invaded and took out Saddam. The grab for power was (and is) on. The Kurds want their oilfields back, and the Shia want payback against the Sunni. It is playing out every night on the evening news. And, our stupid president has assured that our troops are stuck in the middle of it. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Not our fight.

What is seldom mentioned is that (then) Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney predicted all of this in 1992, in explaining why we did not march to Baghdad.

Bob

corky 85, indulgence is the problem! Protect your brain, avoid both!

Bob, so by your way of thinking we shouldn't have giving Europe a hand in WW2. So as the leaders of the free world we should watch and let millions die, interesting, isolationist.

bowman is sincere about what? achieving office? good for him.
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re: ABC - their complicity in 9/11 was proven ON 9/11 when they broadcast "live footage" of ua175 with a flightpath and trajectory that conflicted with the flightpath and trajectory of the simultaneous FOX' "live footage" of ua175.
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i'm sick of telling you people that 9/11 was more than just an inside job - it was a military/media frame-up on humanity. next time it happens it wont be so obvious as 9/11 has turned out to be because video technology has increased exponentially in the last 5 years.
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spy on this!, out. don't forget to buy a copy of david corn's new book HUBRIS.

#64
Carrie, he is not European at all. He is one of the regular Trolls trashing Europeans like me (as if I care!)
Europe does'nt mean f... all to him.
An European would'nt come up with the trash he is promoting.

E Trash I think this quote by Alexander Solzehnitsyn accurately describes the state of things in this country at this time

"In our country the lie has become not just a moral category but a pillar of the state".

That about sums it up for the Bush administration's modus operandi.

I have been wondering where Larisa Alexandrovna at Raw Story has been. I bet she is working on a BIG story. I sure hope so!

I repeat if the ABC 9/11 "docu-drama" is proven to be inaccurate and lopsided, a BOYCOTT OF ABC WOULD SEEM APPROPRIATE.

#95 Euro Trash (LBH)
Bob, I've told this guy before, and I'll tell him again: In WWII the Germans was the agressors, and both the occupied Europeans and the US fought a common foe. And so did Australia, South Africa and New Zealand for that matter.
In today's war in Iraq, the US is the agressor, and most of the socalled "Allied" countries are now backing out. They understand which way this madness is going.

I always wonder what type of questionable intelligence will pop up when Micheal Ledeen is missing in action. He has not written any war-mongering articles at National Review ( he is one of the major pushers for military action in Iran) for three weeks. He will be coming out with a whopper of a story to continue his push for a military strike against Iran and sanctions set up against Syria very soon.

How can I forget Aipac and Congresswoman Ros Lehtinen are working hard at implementing the plans written up for Israel's expansion of their control and territory in the middle east "The Clean Break A New Strategy for Securing the Realm". (this plan covers sanctions set up against Syria too)

The Israeli Lobby only has a few years to implement these plans, they are not wasting any time.

AT the AIPAC WEBSITE
Sanctioning Syria
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Reps. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL) and Eliot Engel (D-NY) led 115 House Members in sending a letter to the president urging him to impose the full range of potential U.S. sanctions on Syria for its continuing support of Hamas and Hizballah. While the president has imposed some sanctions on Syria under the 2003 Syria Accountability and Lebanese Sovereignty Restoration Act, increased pressure on Syria from additional U.S. sanctions is needed to hold the Syrian regime accountable for its continuing support of terrorism. Please thank your Member of Congress for signing the Ros-Lehtinen/Engel letter.
Outlawing Hizballah

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More than 200 members of the House and 88 senators have sent letters to European Union (EU) foreign policy chief Javier Solana urging the EU to designate Hizballah as a terrorist organization, a move that would eliminate its ability to openly fundraise throughout Europe. The House letter, signed by 209 lawmakers, was led by Reps. Elton Gallegly (R-CA) and Robert Wexler (D-FL), while the Senate letter was led by Sens. Gordon Smith (R-OR) and Bill Nelson (D-FL). These letters address the EU’≥ failure to designate and outlaw Hizballah despite continuing rocket and missile attacks on Israeli civilians. Please thank your members of Congress for urging the EU to take action to isolate Hizballah.

Should ABC change or cancel the miniseries?
No 63%
Yes 37%
Total Votes: 9,420

Will you watch?
Yes 51%
No 31%
Haven't decided 17%
Total Votes: 9,484

Clinton White House VIPs Object to 9/11 Drama

That's an article from the NYTimes, but with an AOL poll.

I have asked (R)(Oh)Senator Voinovich just what John Bolton has done at the UN that has changed his mind about him. I watched Voinovich during the John Bolton hearings he was deeply bothered by Bolton's history and bullying methods that he heard people testify about at these hearings. I watched Voinovich get tears in his eyes while he shared about what type of message was sent to the world via Bolton's nomination to the UN.

Dodd rallies against Bolton
Brian BeutlerWednesday September 6, 2006
Senator Christopher Dodd (D-CT) issued a scathing critique of John Bolton, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, on the Senate floor Wednesday.

In his remarks, Dodd highlighted ambassador Bolton’≥ professional failings, including reports of negligence and corruption, and read aloud quotes from foreign diplomats who contend that Bolton’≥ actions have alienated them entirely.

One of Bolton’≥ colleagues told The New York Times, he lost me as an ally now, and that’≥ what many other ambassadors who consider themselves friends of the US are saying.

On the point of negligence, though, Dodd pointed to an incident in June of this year when members of the Security Council visited genocide-ravaged Sudan, an area of the world that President Bush has insisted is a major point of concern.

During that trip, Dodd noted, Dr. Bolton thought it more important to travel to London to deliver a UN bashing speech to a private think tank,Ӡinstead.

Beyond that, though, Dodd criticized Bolton’≥'s well documented attempts to manipulate intelligence to suit his world view,adding that, his behavior endangered our national security and committed an offense so grievous in my view that it warrants that this Senate deny him an up or down vote on the nomination.

Bush has finally admitted that the CIA has detention centers in various places outside the US. The EU parliament has started an investigation in order to find out if any of the EU countries are involved. The Europeans have been aware of such centers for some time, so this is'nt new to us. What really bugs me, is that Bushco think they have the right to invade the privacy of any country and/or persons, if it benefits their ambitions. (Wolfowitz's and Perle's World Hegenomy?)

Bolton Nomination Pulled?

WASHINGTON A U.S. Senate panel postponed a vote scheduled for Thursday on the nomination of John Bolton as U.N. ambassador.

Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Richard Lugar, a Republican, gave no reason for the delay and did not say when the vote would be held. Bolton, nominated by President George. W. Bush, had been opposed by many Democrats, but he was expected to be confirmed by the Republican-led panel.

Lugar said he removed the nomination from the agenda of Thursday's committee meeting after conferring with several senators.

Saladin,
You ll take my Diet Coke when you pry it from my cold, dead, fingers! Just don't let the congress intervene in the middle of the night and try to leave my aspartame-brain-damaged self hooked up to life support.

Y'all should see this.

A Letter to Ann Coulter

Kristen Breitweiser
New York City

First of all I am not LBH, he's a much better debater than me. I use Euro trash cause thats what most of Europe is( I know because I work for a French owned company and have been there many times).
Bob states that we shouldn't get involved in other countries affairs and what happens to the people happens, I said by that thinking we should not have been involved in the Euro theater during WW2.
Erling is a whining ass smug Euro who likes to tell us how to run our country but God( oops i know how you guys hate that word) help us if we say anything about that shithole called Europe. We saved said shithole with our grandparents blood and our payback is to be stabbed in the back by these socialist chodes.
Kathleen you still didn't answer the question, not that I expected you to. please give me specifics, like I didn't have sexual relations with that woman, see thats a lie.

One hundred people die in Israel, over a thousand in Lebanon a direct result of the latest invasion of Lebanon, three thousand in 9/11.

Over 400,OOO people in Sudan are murdered and we barely hear a peep in our media. Talk about racism/classism.Darfur Violence Intensifies as Deadline for Withdrawal of AU Peacekeepers Looms

This is at DEMOCRACY NOW (the best news program going)
The Sudanese government is increasing its attacks in Darfur as the African Union confirms it will withdraw peacekeeping troops by the end of the month. We speak with Alex de Waal, an advisor to the African Union and author of "Darfur: A Short History of a Long War."
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A leading human rights group is accusing the Sudanese government of indiscriminately bombing villages in rebel-held regions of Darfur without regard for civilian lives.
Human Rights Watch said firsthand sources report flight crews rolling bombs out the back ramps of Sudanese military aircraft flying over civilian areas.

The Sudanese government recently launched a major offensive in Darfur believed to involve tens of thousands of troops backed by bomber aircraft and helicopter gunships.

The attacks come as the African Union confirmed its decision to withdraw its peacekeeping troops from Sudan when their mandate expires at the end of September. The AU has said repeatedly that it wants to hand over its mission to the United Nations. The Security Council recently voted to authorize more than 20,000 troops and police officers for Darfur but the UN force was strongly rejected by the Sudanese government.

The AU brokered a peace accord in May, but it was signed by the government and only one of the three main rebel groups in Darfur. Since then, the violence has intensified.

Humanitarian groups say civilian casualties, rapes and looting have all grown more widespread. Meanwhile, aid workers have been forced to curtail efforts to distribute food and health care to the region amid increasing attacks.

Since 2003, as many as 400,000 people have died in the Darfur region and as many as three million people have been left homeless.

Alex De Waal, a fellow of the Global Equity Initiative at Harvard University and an advisor to the African Union. He is author of the book, "Darfur: A Short History of a Long War."

Control Room: Nora–we just got statement from ABC that we have been waiting for. I’ll read it right now–The Path to 9/11″ is not a documentary of the events leading up to 9/11. It is a dramatization, drawn from a variety of sources including the 9/11 Commission Report, other published materials, and personal interviews. As such–for dramatic and narrative purposes, the movie contains fictionalized scenes-–composite and representative characters and dialogue–and time compression.

No one has seen the final version of the film–because the editing process is not yet complete, so criticisms of film specifics are premature and irresponsible. The attacks of 9/11 were a pivotal moment in our history–and it is fitting that the debate about the events related to the attacks continue. However, we hope viewers will watch the entire broadcast of the finished film before forming an opinion about it–So bottom line they’ve just released a statement about it. They’re not going to change this movie at all…

Listening to the show as I write. Waiting for the funny telephone scene.

Trash..... try these Bush lies on for size.

WHEN(2002) WHERE WHAT
1 OCT 14 Michigan September the 11th changed the equation, changed our thinking. It also changed our thinking when we began to realize that one of the most dangerous things that can happen in the modern era is for a deceiving dictator who has gassed his own people, who has weapons of mass destruction to team up with an organization like al Qaeda.
2 OCT 28 Colorado [Saddam is] a person who claims he has no weapons of mass destruction, in order to escape the dictums of the U.N. Security Council and the United Nations -- but he's got them
3 OCT 28 New Mexico He's got weapons of mass destruction.
4 OCT 31 South Dakota There is a threat in Iraq. And the threat exists because a leader there not only has denied and deceived the world about whether or not he's got weapons of mass destruction, but this is a guy who's used weapons of mass destruction. He not only has them, he's used them.
5 NOV 01 New Hampshire We know he's got chemical weapons, probably has biological weapons.
6 NOV 02 Tennessee We know that this is a man who has chemical weapons, and we know he's used them.
7 NOV 02 Atlanta, Georgia He's a man who has said he wouldn't have weapons of mass destruction, but he's got them.
8 NOV 02 Florida He's a man who has said he wouldn't have weapons of mass destruction, but he's got them. ... You know, not only does he have weapons of mass destruction, but, incredibly enough, he has used weapons of mass destruction.
9 NOV 03 Minnesota This is a man who not only has got chemical weapons, I want you to remind your friends and neighbors, that he has used chemical weapons.
10 NOV 03 Illinois I see the world the way it is. Saddam Hussein is a threat to America. He's a threat to our friends. He's a man who said he wouldn't have weapons of mass destruction, yet he has them.
11 NOV 03 South Dakota Saddam Hussein is a man who told the world he wouldn't have weapons of mass destruction, but he's got them.
12 NOV 04 Texas He said he wouldn't have weapons of mass destruction -- he has weapons of mass destruction. ... Not only has he got chemical weapons, but I want you to remember, he's used chemical weapons.
13 NOV 04 Arkansas This is a man who told the world he wouldn't have weapons of mass destruction, promised he wouldn't have them. He's got them. ... He said he wouldn't have chemical weapons, he's got them.
14 NOV 04 Missouri He said he wouldn't have chemical weapons; he's got them.

Bolton nominatation looks dead

Lugar said he removed the nomination from the agenda of Thursday's committee meeting after conferring with several senators.

Arianna writes:

Speculation: Lincoln Chafee wouldn't play nice and was ready to vote no, meaning Bolton's nomination would have to be sent to the full Senate without the committee's endorsement, so the GOP opted for delay rather than defeat. Story Behind the Story: I'm hearing that the White House put a lot of pressure on Lugar to put all the business of the Foreign Relations Committee on hold so that it didn't look like the only thing being delayed was the Bolton vote, but that Lugar, in one more illustration of the weakened state of the White House, refused to go along wi