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September 13, 2006

HUBRIS in Pajamas

As part of its new Politics Central section, the redesigned and ramped-up Pajamas Media has posted a podcast interview with me on Hubris. You can listen to it or download it here. For those of you in the Bay Area, Michael Isikoff and I are scheduled to be on KGO-AM radio 3:00 to 4:00 pm (San Francisco time) on Wednesday afternoon. And I'm scheduled to appear on The Big Story with John Gibson on Fox News on Thursday (between 5:00 and 6:00 pm, Eastern time). Other major television bookings are in the works. Preliminary sales figures for the book, I'm told, are strong. Please do your part to keep that so.

Posted by David Corn at September 13, 2006 11:13 AM

Comments

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David,

You should really write a book or sumpthin'!

thanks, again.

-T

Posted by: Hajji at September 13, 2006 11:34 AM

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Bob is overcome with depression, considering that all of the lies and mindless fear-mongering of the Republicans will work for yet one more election...that the Democrats will self-destruct again in November. I have the sinking realization that the incompentent and dangerous idiots we have in the White House and Congress will continue to lead our country to bankruptcy and ruin for another two years....with no effective push back from anyone.

The only thing more depressing that the manifold failures of the Republicans is the abject incompetence of their political opponents.


Bob

Posted by: Bob in North Dakota at September 13, 2006 11:34 AM

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Air Force chief: Test weapons on testy U.S. mobs

now that's HUBRIS!

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations before being used on the battlefield, the Air Force secretary said Tuesday.

The object is basically public relations. Domestic use would make it easier to avoid questions from others about possible safety considerations, said Secretary Michael Wynne.

"If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation," said Wynne. "(Because) if I hit somebody with a nonlethal weapon and they claim that it injured them in a way that was not intended, I think that I would be vilified in the world press."
---
ya. as opposed to our own liberal mcmedia who would no doubt slander the american victim who was injured.

Posted by: spy on this! at September 13, 2006 12:06 PM

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David,
RePost fr last thread!! You maybe asked about this; especially for your FoxNews appearance.

NOVAK: ARMITAGE DID NOT TELL ALL
Wed Sep 13 2006 08:37:07 ET

"When Richard Armitage finally acknowledged last week he was my source three years ago in revealing Valerie Plame Wilson as a CIA employee, the former deputy secretary of state's interviews obscured what he really did," Bob Novak claims in a column set for Thursday release.

Novak, attempting to set the record straight, writes: "First, Armitage did not, as he now indicates, merely pass on something he had heard and that he 'thought' might be so. Rather, he identified to me the CIA division where Mrs. Wilson worked, and said flatly that she recommended the mission to Niger by her husband, former Amb. Joseph Wilson. Second, Armitage did not slip me this information as idle chitchat, as he now suggests. He made clear he considered it especially suited for my column."

Novak slams Armitage for holding back all this time.

Armitage's silence for "two and one-half years caused intense pain for his colleagues in government and enabled partisan Democrats in Congress to falsely accuse Rove of being my primary source," Novak explains.

"When Armitage now says he was mute because of special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's request, that does not explain his silent three months between his claimed first realization that he was the source and Fitzgerald's appointment on Dec. 30. Armitage's tardy self-disclosure is tainted because it is deceptive."

Developing...

Posted by: Happy mid-Day 13th at September 13, 2006 12:06 PM

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testy U.S. mobs!

ya like the anti-war crowd and the 9/11 truth gang -

get on the ground sheehan! you are a terrorist despite your son's sacrifice!

Posted by: spy on this! at September 13, 2006 12:12 PM

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Terror in the Levant

The attack on the U.S. embassy underscores the reality of what is going on in the Levant, with Syria at the epicenter of a brewing Islamist storm Ð and the U.S. and Israel objectively allied with radical Islamists seeking "regime change" in Damascus. Syria, with its secular government and moderate religious leaders, is an affront to the real terrorists, just as it is anathema in Washington and Tel Aviv.
----
you are either with us or you are with the terrorist
~bush

ya. unless bushco are with the terrorist - if to go against bushco is to be with the terrorist but in the case of syria bushco are with the terrorist does that mean nobody is the terrorist or does that mean that everyone is the terrorist?

Posted by: spy on this! at September 13, 2006 12:22 PM

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According the Geneva Conventions (I know not applicable) tear gas is not to be used against enemy troops. So they use it on their own civilians? Yep, got to love these guys, well it is all coming to an end soon so get ready. I will bet that no one sees which direction it is coming from either. Ha!

Posted by: What the F**k at September 13, 2006 12:31 PM

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in 10 or 20 years after the war on terror which is in reality the war on arabs leaves most of the arabs (with the exception of the saudi branch of the bush family) bombed back to the stone-age, the patriots can finally turn their attention to africa - darfur? does it matter where? - it can be called the war on oppression but will in reality be the war on blacks.

Posted by: spy on this! at September 13, 2006 12:37 PM

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Have just finished the sep 18 issue of USNAWR, Michael Barone used the tease about Armitage to denounce the entire Plame affair, and used your book as proof of this view. I wrote a very strong letter to USNAWR objecting to Barone being either to lazy to do his own fact checking or being a paid flack of the repig party-he did read like he was using the weekly talking points memo by Rove-, and using your book to make connections and claims, that if he had in fact read your book, he would not have been able to make.-I got your book thru amazon.com yesterday, and have read about half of it so far. So when you going to kick ass on all those wing nuts who panned your book without ever reading it?

Posted by: timr at September 13, 2006 12:59 PM

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Spy, think we have ten or twenty years left? Not a chance.

Posted by: What the F**k at September 13, 2006 01:04 PM

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WTF, on what authority do you make your dire predicitons, just curious.

Posted by: DEN at September 13, 2006 01:10 PM

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Progress for America sounds suspicious to me

Progress for America, Inc. ("PFA") is an issue advocacy/grassroots organization committed to representing a diverse coalition of concerned citizens, businesses, nonprofit organizations and community leaders who promote public policies that improve the lives of every American. As a nonprofit corporation and exempt from federal income tax under section 501(c)(4) of the Internal Revenue Code, PFA promotes nonpartisan, conservative policies that improve the quality of life for the American people.

Our efforts are designed to enhance the general public's knowledge about issues of importance to the country.

PFA does not support or oppose candidates and does not engage in Federal election activities.

Found here in the margin, Who are they helping?

Themselves?

Posted by: DEN at September 13, 2006 01:18 PM

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WTF no i don't think we have 10 or 20 worthwhile years left - but the war on niggers can't begin until the war on towel-heads is over - and they had to take a long break after the war on gooks - no matter what; whitey has the stick!
maybe in the meantime there can be a slight war on fags and a slight war on broads, who when all is said and done are evidently unequipped to make proper choices even as regarding their own bodies. right georgie? right laura.
--------------------------------------------------
a massive eyesore landmark turns out to not be quite the money-maker it was envisioned to be but was unfortunately built with a poisonous substance as fire-proofing and would cost 10's of billions of dollars at least to properly remove it to make way for a new and improved eyesore. what a coincidence that oil-rich towel-heads hate our freedoms so much that they would fly 2 airplanes (1 invisible, and 1 cartoon) into said eyesore oops i mean landmark causing the instant demise of such.
it's probably a good thing for some other inferiors who no doubt are about to hate our freedoms that the hoover dam is still required.

fuck you beavis.

Posted by: spy on this! at September 13, 2006 01:45 PM

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So when you going to kick ass on all those wing nuts who panned your book without ever reading it?

Right after he lets Happy know which "two or three chapters" support Barone's conclusions.

[/snark]

Posted by: Don at September 13, 2006 01:46 PM

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DEN, good post on the last thread, at #126, about the analysis of the dust from WTC. I didn't see thermite listed at all.

The pH of an aqueous suspension of each sample was > 7; the Cortlandt Street sample had a pH of 11.5. Both the Cherry and Market Street samples had a pH of ~9 (Table 1). Significant amounts (~10% of the mass) of cellulose were found in all three samples. This observation is consistent with the release of large amounts of disintegrated paper and other products that were originally part of the indoor work environments. We detected no differences between the exposed copper mirrors and the controls, indicating that these dust samples were not corrosive toward base metals. This finding is consistent with the pH measurements.

Posted by: Alan at September 13, 2006 01:48 PM

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#4 How this will be used to take the heat off of the other leakers is worrisome.

Posted by: kathleen at September 13, 2006 01:51 PM

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Of course, it didn't say the dust was pulverised concrete either, though it does say there was some in it.

There will be some that post here that will say those that did this analysis were 'in on it' and part of the conspiracy. lol

Posted by: Alan at September 13, 2006 02:08 PM

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Folks,

Air America, according to Truthout.org, is going to declare bankruptcy.

What to do?

Posted by: factchecker at September 13, 2006 02:35 PM

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18 Folks,
Air America, according to Truthout.org, is going to declare bankruptcy.
What to do?

Posted by: factchecker at September 13, 2006 02:35 PM

What to do? Buy a copy of HUBRIS, deadhead.

Posted by: Carrie at September 13, 2006 02:53 PM

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Alan,

Thermite itself was not listed and it would have been consumed, but according to this chart, there was elevated levels of Barium represented by the letters "Ba". Barium nitrate is an essential part of the Thermate TH3 mix as shown here.

Do not hurt youself jumping to conclusions.

Posted by: DEN at September 13, 2006 03:01 PM

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Why, factless, I didn't know you were a fan of Truthout!

Here are some other good articles at the site:

Republicans Questioning Bush's Policies on Iraq by Kimberly Hefferling of the Associated Press.

Marine Calls Situation in Anbar Province Dire by Thomas Ricks (author of Fiasco) of the Washington Post.

Soldiers Reveal Horror of Afghan Campaign by Kim Sengupta of the Independent UK.

There are many more informative articles as well. But, heck, you've been to the site to read them yourself, right? You weren't just copying information you got from a Drudge link or something, were you? Of course not! Glad to see you have such an open mind.

Posted by: Don at September 13, 2006 03:07 PM

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Air America caused it's own demise by jerking the folks like Marc Maron and Al Franken around until they quit and moved on to bigger and better things.

They have serious (mis)management issues.

Posted by: DEN at September 13, 2006 03:12 PM

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Oh yea, anyone that is wondering about the effects on the WTC rescue personnel healthwise might take a look at the results of exposure, and what symptoms are being reported by those people.

Posted by: DEN at September 13, 2006 03:19 PM

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Oh my goodness;

I was going to give kudos to feckless-checker for actually posting something factual but I cannot find any mention of Air American Radio at Truth out?

Of course it could have been linked - if such a thing existed.

To give the benefit of doubt I Googled "Air American Radio Bankruptcy" and surprise surprise Google cannot find it either.

Cracks me up!

capt

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 03:20 PM

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Capt,

GO HERE Think Progress c/o Raw Story.

Posted by: DEN at September 13, 2006 03:30 PM

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#2 Bob in ND, Bob, this post is for you!!!

It Will Take A Miracle

Dear Cornposters:

I would like to begin this letter by stating that the Democrats will not take over any House in Congress. The Nazi Party maintains it domination because Americans' sin of pride will not permit any American to admit Bush was a wrong choice for our country and because America's elections are rigged.

But let us fantasize that through some miracle and it will take a miracle that the Democrats win the House of Representatives. I would hope that the Democrats would show some fiscal responsibility and that they would investigate Bush's crimes against the American people and his crimes against humanity. The House will NOT investigate for possible impeachment charges even though I would like to see that happen.

Nazi loyalists need not fear that Bush will be impeached!!!

However, I do firmly believe that Bush's crimes and his lies should be investigated and investigated rigorously. Our people deserve an airing of the stained and stenchy linen coming from the White House. Yes, Americans are deserving of the facts surrounding Bush's distasteful operations as the ruler of America.

For the airing and the investigation of Bush's policies and practices to happen it will take a miracle.

Sincerely,

Gerald

Posted by: Gerald at September 13, 2006 03:30 PM

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Den,

I know about the TP piece. HE posted it was on Truthout.org, I would be interested to read it at Truthout.org?

Maybe the feckless meant Think Progress but only the feckless could say, eh?

capt

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 03:42 PM

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US calls for sanctions on Iran over nuclear programme Wednesday September 13, 2006

Vienna- The US on Wednesday called for sanctions to be imposed on Iran in connection with Tehran's refusal to halt nuclear enrichment and accused the Islamic republic of the "aggressive" pursuit of nuclear weapons. Addressing a meeting in Vienna of the Board of Governors of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), US envoy Gregory Schulte said such sanctions should "support" the current diplomatic process aimed at ending the international dispute over Iran's nuclear programme.

The US is alone in supporting the imposition of sanctions among the group of six nations - the five permanent members of the UN Security Council and Germany - currently trying to broker a solution to the Iran nuclear issue.

raw story

Posted by: kathleen at September 13, 2006 03:45 PM

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Of course, it didn't say the dust was pulverised concrete either, though it does say there was some in it.

some concrete in it alan? lol.
what is all this?
did the janitor (who said that there were massive explosions right before the cpllapse) merely forget to sweep up after himself?
oh maybe it was all gypsum wall-board. everyone knows that the towers were comprised of gypsum and not concrete right?
hey genius an explosion is not a collapse!
poof!

alan i thought you were smarter than to fall into the coincidence theory.

Posted by: spy on this! at September 13, 2006 03:45 PM

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capt #24,

Of course it could have been linked - if such a thing existed.

I assumed (mistake!) when I went to Truthout that the "story" in question wasn't on the front page anymore. I thought I'd have a little fun at our buddy's expense because I figured he saw a link at some wingnut site and had no idea what it is that Truthout does. Imagine my childish delight after seeing your post! (At least I'm honest!)

Anyway, good detective work, capt. I just went to look myself, and all I found when I Googled were stories about "Left of the Dial" from two years ago and airline ticket touting sites.

Cracks me up, too!

Posted by: Don at September 13, 2006 03:48 PM

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Ah, just read the Think Progress piece.

Not quite as negative as factless would like it to be, though, is it? Anyway, dude still needs to learn how to link.

(And, by the way, this isn't a knock on you, kathleen. You've admitted to being link-challenged and you're not here to pick fights with wingnut talking points.)

Posted by: Don at September 13, 2006 03:54 PM

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Don,

Maybe the troll is too embarrassed to admit he is a "Think Progress" reader.


HA!


capt

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 03:55 PM

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How do I make a hyperlink?

A link is done with something called the Anchor tag.

The anchor tag looks like this:

 <A HREF="pagename.html">Link Here</A>

Anything that appears between the begin and end anchor tags will take you to the specified destination when clicked.

Format tags are as follows

 <B>BOLD TEXT</B>

 <I>ITALIC TEXT</I>

If you use "preview" you can see your formats and test your links by a "right click" then "open in new window". If it works the new window will open with your linked page.

*****

If any of the above gives you a hard time or if you cannot get the results you want, drop me an email. I will help where I can.


capt

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 03:59 PM

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Controlled Demolitions Expert Danny Jowenko re: wtc7:

...it starts from below... They have simply blown away columns.
This is controlled demolition
A team of experts did this.
This is professional work, without any doubt.

For video and more information click below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqrn5x2_f6Q&NR

Here's the web link to Mr. Jowenko's company:
http://www.jowenko.nl/

lol i guess jowenko hasn't heard the official claim that wtc7 was built on a ladder.
what a moron jowenko is for falling into a foolish conspiracy theory! jeez where do they find these guys?
--------------------------------------------------
here's a little photo series showing the progression of the gypsum wallboard cloud:
poofity
poofin
poofery

maybe they didn't use enough dry-wall screws - that surely makes more sense than explosive demolition of a money-sink eyesore that can be blamed on oil-rich evil muslims that conveniently hate our freedumbs!

Posted by: spy on this! at September 13, 2006 04:01 PM

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NIST boss exposed!
i can't think of anyone more qualified to issue a 10k page report that merely distracts attention away from govt complicity in a controlled explosive demolition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Jeffrey

Dr. William Jeffrey is the 13th Director of the National Institute of Standards
and Technology (NIST), sworn into the office on July 26, 2005. He was nominated by President
Bush on May 25, 2005, and confirmed by the U.S. Senate on July 22, 2005.
He has been involved in federal science and technology programs since 1988.
Previous to his appointment to NIST he served as senior director for homeland and national security
and the assistant director for space and aeronautics at the Office of Science and
Technology Policy (OSTP) within the Executive Office of the President.
At OSTP he was instrumental in guiding the creation and development of the science and
technology aspects of the newly created Department of Homeland Security especially as they
relate to weapons of mass destruction countermeasures.
Earlier, he was the deputy director for the
Advanced Technology Office and chief scientist for the Tactical Technology Office with the
Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA).
He has also served as the assistant deputy for technology at the Defense Airborne
Reconnaissance Office, where he supervised sensor development for the RQ-1 Predator and RQ-4 Global Hawk Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAV's)and the development of common standards that allow for cross-service and cross-agency transfer of imagery and intelligence products.
He also spent several years working at the Institute for Defense Analyses performing technical analyses in support of the Department of Defense.
He received his Ph.D. in astronomy from Harvard University and his B.Sc. in physics from
the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
-----
wow talk about stacking the deck!
i wonder if he was a local spelling-bee champ when he was a kid?
well you can't blaim him for taking a thankless job like director of NIST - someone's got to do it.

Posted by: spy on this! at September 13, 2006 04:17 PM

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Spy, I posted the cronies bio a while back during an exchange between bloggers.

In the NIST report I especially like the part about not even testing for Thermate residue, some thorough investigation that was eh?

Any cronie of Bush is no friend of mine, or the rest of the country.

Posted by: DEN at September 13, 2006 04:41 PM

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DEN; The predictions are based on the economic model we are following and the unregulated hedge funds that control something in the neighborhood of 400 trillion dollars in something called derivatives. If anyone can tell me how those work it would be a surprise, even the clowns that designed them (a physicist, and a mathematician) can't so how this market is going to continue is beyond me, and right now the hedge funds are cratering. Not to worry hedge funds are for the hyper wealthy individuals and enterprises, but we are not counted because as people we don't count. It matters not to that crowd if you miss your house payment, and or taxes, they are going to get theirs. Hedge fund managers rake in alot of the profit of these things and so are pretty insulated from monetary disaster. The problem comes when you have a small elite and they will expect the mobs to support their life style while accepting the crumbs from their table, the crumbs won't be enough to sustain life, so then comes the military, why do you think we spend almost half of our available funding on that crap. When all you have is military power everything looks like war. All war, all the time, and never one gets won. I am curious as to why that is, with the coming economic implosion coming there will be lots of future bullet stoppers needed to further their agenda which is raking in all the goodies for them and theirs. Then we take into account the global climate change which no matter what your view on it, is here and now, we are just waiting for the permafrost in Siberia to really start to melt then the other areas that contain methane hydrate to get bubbling adding millions of tons of methane to the already stressed atmosphere, pretty much a runaway loop that self perpetuates. The hotter it gets the more that is released making it hotter to release more, you get the picture. I figure that within four to six years we are not going to recognize this planet, but if we keep on thinking that things will continue on the way they have for the last two hundred years we are out of luck. What can we do? Not much we don't have the power to change anything we are at the mercy of a cabal of idiots that are so short sighted they cannot see beyond their nose. Or they might think that they can outlast any change by living in undisclosed locations and eating dried food. I personally don't want to exist in that world, besides once the animals and insects, plants are gone what's the purpose? Makes no sense to survive a holocaust if the survivors have a short, brutal, and difficult life. Sure I might be over the top on some of the predictions, but what if I am not? Would we change if we could know for certain that it is all over? Or would we continue as we have thinking that it will always be this way. Change continues to happen whether we want it to or not, and how we manage change is the key, if we do not, then we are doomed as a species and it might not be a bad thing if you look at our history. Personally I am tired of war, and the war party, and the war blog, and the war president, deserter that he is. Plus GW wouldn't last ten minutes in real combat, too dumb.

Posted by: What the F**k at September 13, 2006 04:43 PM

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WTF i agree with your assessment entirely - the 4 - 6 years part is a little soon for my tastes but if it turns out that way that soon i will remember that you said it.

Posted by: spy on this! at September 13, 2006 04:57 PM

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ha ha i'll make a gypsum wall-board monument in your honor:
"WTF said it would be like this!"

Posted by: spy on this! at September 13, 2006 04:59 PM

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venus here we come.

Posted by: spy on this! at September 13, 2006 05:00 PM

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WTF, I appreciate the input. There is no solution to the current dilemma as far as I can see. Just good to know I am not the only one thinking we are doomed.

The de-population of the planet is imminent and there aint a damn thing we can do to stop it, worst part is humanity brought it on themselves. Thanks, I think?

Posted by: DEN at September 13, 2006 05:05 PM

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Barium nitrate is an essential part of the Thermate TH3 mix as shown here.

First link wouldn't let me see the chart. As for the statement above, that don't make sense either. Barium is in ALOT of things. You said barium, but linked to barium nitrate, which is different. And even if it's barium nitrate, that is only one component in thermate and doesn't mean they found thermate. Same as Steven Jones saying he found sulphor to prove thermite... which is also a pile of hooey.

Now, for the kicker...Barium oxide is used in a coating for the electrodes of fluorescent lamps, which facilitates the release of electrons. There were probably a fkn million flourescent lamps in each building. Oooooohhhhhh, how sinister!!

LMAO

Read your first linked article again. It says over and over that the results show construction materials in the building of the towers, and materials associated with the normal contents of an office building.

Posted by: Alan at September 13, 2006 05:05 PM

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Big brother is watching your internet habits right now!

Go to Raw story, click on any article, scroll down the page and look for a little colored box, click on the box, on the left column click details, if you see your provider on the list click the first number, voila! Everything anyone would ever want to know minus your name.

Brought to you courtesy of BlueLemur.com

Posted by: DEN at September 13, 2006 05:11 PM

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Alan --- Each run takes maybe 3 seconds. Haven't actually bothered to time it.

Posted by: David B. Benson at September 13, 2006 05:14 PM

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A team of experts did this.
This is professional work, without any doubt.

LMAO !!! The guy didn't even know what day #7 fell. Didn't know a fkn thing about it, except he was doing a professional analysis from watching ONE VIDEO! hahahahaha
That shows how desparate you paranoid wackos are! Forget the pictures of the other side of the building, of all the damage. Forget the 18-second seismograph that doesn't have any sharp spikes of explosions, but a slow crumbling of the interior support structures. Forget the firemen that were there and evacuated because the building was shifting and making noises. And YES, it was built on a glorified scaffle, not a ladder. Don't you remember anything you've read? I bet it was your thermite ferries, huh? hahaha
Silly paranoid boi.

Posted by: Alan at September 13, 2006 05:20 PM

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Mr. David Corn,

Just finished listening to the MP3. Was that Andrew Keen interviewing? He sounded like a reasonable fellow. His questions fair and interesting. Even a question or two that were insightful.

You sounded very good both in content and demeanor.

Thanks (as always) for all of your work


Kirk

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 05:20 PM

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#43,

The only colored box I see is the XML feed?

Am I missing something?


capt

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 05:25 PM

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I was reading Think Progress, rather than Truthout.org. I always read all the points of view. I try to keep an open mind about things.

So, how many of you communists are posting to conservative websites?

So, Captain, how does it feel to be so ignorant as to not know what is going on with your fellow travelers?

Posted by: factchecker at September 13, 2006 05:27 PM

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Spy on This post 3.

This Air-hole really wants to test microwaves on demonstrators?

WTF are we - Popcorn?


Iran to aid Iraq on security

Tuesday 12 September 2006, 15:24 Makka Time, 12:24 GMT

Al-Maliki is on his first official visit to Iran.

As Nuri Al-Maliki, Iraq's prime minister, begins a two-day visit to Tehran, Iran has said it is willing to help establish security and stability in Iraq.

After talks with al-Maliki on Tuesday, Iran's president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said: "We will give our full assistance to the Iraqi government to establish security in [Iraq].

"Strengthening security in Iraq means strengthening security and stability in the region."

This was on aljazeera.net and photos in some US papers, though blank on Google.

What a slam to Bush. He has lost the War in Iraq at home. He has lost the War in Iraq in Baghdad. He has lost the war in Iraq in the al Anbar Province. He has lost to Hizballah in the entire region and he wants us to support his war in Iraq.

HTF do you lose a war that isn't a war? There is no enemy army. The locals are killing each other off. We have unlimited funds and control over theirs. We have attacked Fallujah in 2004, again in 2005 and the insurgents have control of it again. Six Battalions of Marines lost it last time. The 101st Airborne is being deployed on a new mission away from Baghdad.

Come November his trump card of 911 and Homeboy Security is going to come up the wrong suit.

Posted by: geof01 at September 13, 2006 05:34 PM

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nothing like throwing in a good LMAO for a that needed boost of self confidence. lol.
--------------------------------------------------

BYU takes on a 9/11 conspiracy professor

It was Steven Jones's rŽsumŽ as much as his September 11 research that rapidly turned the Brigham Young University physics professor into one of the most prominent 9/11 conspiracy theorists. But with the university's decision last week to place him on paid leave and review his work, Jones may trade academic standing for another vaunted status, the movement's first martyr.

BYU's explanation for Jones's review cites his accusations about government involvementÑwhich are outside his area of expertiseÑnot the quality of his research into the collapse's physics, the discipline in which errors would suggest a lack of fitness to carry on his job.

jeez where do they find these guys? what kind of moron professor/scientist would believe that the govt was involved with the perpetration of 9/11?
LMAO!

here's the best part:

President Bush met with Gordon Hinckley, head of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, in Utah on August 31.

just before jones was placed on leave. what a coincidence.

Posted by: spy on this! at September 13, 2006 05:35 PM

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27 B Stroke 6

The Newbie's Guide to Detecting the NSA


It's not surprising that an expert hired by EFF should produce an analysis that supports the group's case against AT&T. But last week's public court filing of a redacted statement by J. Scott Marcus is still worth reading for the obvious expertise of its author, and the cunning insights he draws from the AT&T spy documents.

An internet pioneer and former FCC advisor who held a Top Secret security clearance, Marcus applies a Sherlock Holmes level of reasoning to his dissection of the evidence in the case: 120-pages of AT&T manuals that EFF filed under seal, and whistleblower Mark Klein's observations inside the company's San Francisco switching center.

If you've been following Wired News' coverage of the EFF case, you won't find many new hard revelations in Marcus' analysis -- at least, not in the censored version made public. But he connects the dots to draw some interesting conclusions:

More HERE

*****end of clip*****

If you already know how to use the DOS command "tracert" this will be easy. This may not be as conclusive as they would like you to believe but most of the information is pretty solid.

The last three paragraphs are a must read for anybody interested.

capt

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 05:35 PM

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LMAO !!! The guy didn't even know what day #7 fell

that's because he's in a foreign country and the american govt/mcmedia did it's very best to downplay the existence of wtc7's demise. LMAO!

Posted by: spy on this! at September 13, 2006 05:37 PM

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The headline at Think Progress reads, "Air America to Declare Bankruptcy, But Progressive Radio Remains Strong".

Yeah.

And the headline in August '45 for the Tokyo Times was "Hiroshima and Nagasaki Bombed. Japan Remains Strong."

Posted by: factchecker at September 13, 2006 05:38 PM

54

LMAO!
Forget the 18-second seismograph that doesn't have any sharp spikes of explosions,

unlike the seismic spike of 2.1 magnitude that was recorded as wtc2 began to explode. LMAO!

but a slow crumbling of the interior support structures.

a slow crumbling? ya right. wtc7 took all of 7 seconds to implode into it's own footprint.
oh ya, built on a ladder. i forgot about that part.
you're right about one thing though: LMAO!


Posted by: spy on this! at September 13, 2006 05:44 PM

55

I hear the drums and the drums are louder and louder for the reinstatement of the military draft. If the draft is reinstated, the children of the rich and priviledged should be drafted first because they have the most to lose!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Gerald at September 13, 2006 05:45 PM

56

worldnetdaily.com

JERUSALEM Ð The attack today against the United States embassy in Damascus was orchestrated by American intelligence to embarrass the Syrian regime and extract political concessions, a senior member of Syrian President Bashar Assad's Baath Party claimed to WND.

"We in the government are 100 percent sure America was behind this attack, which is not the same as other attacks by Islamic groups," said the senior Baath party official, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"Only the Americans can succeed in carrying out an attack just 200 meters from President Assad's residence in the most heavily guarded section of Syria," the official said.
----
see @6.
bushco are taking the side of the terrorist against the secular syrian govt. unreal.
you are either with us or you are with the terrorist.
~bush
who is the terrorist now dwarfs?

Posted by: spy on this! at September 13, 2006 05:51 PM

57

Gerald, I was the last one drafted in this country. But I might be persuaded to go along with a draft that starts with the Bush twins and the Hilton sisters and works it's way down the ladder of opportunity.

Posted by: geof01 at September 13, 2006 05:53 PM

58

I try to keep an open mind about things.

Keep trying, ol' buddy! I know, with certaintude, that you will get there one day!

Or not.

Posted by: Don at September 13, 2006 05:57 PM

59

#47 Capt, it is a small colored box down the page not attached to any other window, 1/4in. square.

If you click the Chavez article it will be near the bottom of the page.

Posted by: DEN at September 13, 2006 05:58 PM

60

Spy On This 56. Makes sense. Condi is still trying to get Syria to throw up on itself. What better way than to incite an attack, thwart it, praise the Syrians so you can then derile them.

And in the end we blame the attack on AQ#2 because he send the last tape to aljazeera.

Posted by: geof01 at September 13, 2006 05:59 PM

61

Alan, you are a stubborn one are'nt you? but then so are a lot of other people.

Although I did not claim my post was the difinitive truth, I was merely pointing to a suspicious component. On further study I found out the only component left after Thermate goes off is aluminum oxide, which is known as the granular matter on sandpaper that does the work.

I will have to get back to ya, meanwhile my fellow scepticians should keep you busy for now.

Posted by: DEN at September 13, 2006 06:06 PM

62

let's see, who to trust?

on the one hand we have:
professors and scholars st911.org with nothing to gain or hide when they insist that 9/11, including the explosive demolition of the poisonous eyesore wtc (which just happened to be the location of many many records of financial dealings as well as the offices of various govt/corporati muckity mucks), was an obvious inside job.

and on the other hand we have this guy:

Dr. William Jeffrey is the 13th Director of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), whose impressive shillness is exposed @35.

gosh what a tough choice.

Posted by: spy on this! at September 13, 2006 06:11 PM

63

#18

At the very bottom of the article there is this:

UPDATE: Air America responds.

If Air America had filed for bankruptcy every time someone rumored it to be doing so, we would have ceased to exist long ago; it may be frustrating to some that this hasnÕt happened. No decision has been taken to make any filing of any kind, we are not sure of the source of these rumors and frankly can not respond to every rumor in the marketplace.

Posted by: Paul at September 13, 2006 06:15 PM

64

#59,

You mean the "site meter" that is commonplace and every webmaster has access to even more details than "site meter" will display.

Site meter captures information for marketing:

http://sitemeter.sitetoolbox.com/

Nothing sinister. Every "packet" of data on the web carries the source and destination information.

I suggest running "tracert" and see if ATT.net is in the hop. If so according to the wired magazine the NSA has a copy.


capt

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 06:23 PM

65

I never knew Air America's financial stability was of such great interest to the rabid right:

Air America to File for Bankruptcy
Stop the ACLU, PA - 3 hours ago

Think Progress is reporting that Air America radio will announce filing for bankruptcy protection on Friday according to three independent sources. ...

Air America May Go Belly Up
The Conservative Voice, NC - 28 minutes ago

By Sher Zieve - The political left-wing Radio network Air America is expected to file for bankruptcy protection on Thursday. Since ...

Air America Bankrupt, Feminist Radio Next
RushLimbaugh.com (subscription), CA - 29 minutes ago

RUSH: Apparently Air America is going to file for bankruptcy this week or next. They'll continue to operate, but I knew that was coming. ...

Air America Fails, But Time's Asking Al Franken About His ' ...
NewsBusters - 4 hours ago

With the news of Air America's expected demise comes the contest for which media outlet has been the most aggressively clueless in ignoring this fact in Al ...

Now, back to the news. . .
Scores of torture victims' bodies dumped in Baghdad
Independent - 12 hours ago

The bodies of 65 men who had been tortured and then shot have been dumped around Baghdad. Meanwhile, two car bombs and two mortar attacks killed at least 32 people and injured dozens of others.

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 13, 2006 06:29 PM

66

Capt, OK, I was not aware of that until today, at sundown it dawns on me. HA!

I have used Senderbase to look up IP owners but have not done tracert yet.

Posted by: DEN at September 13, 2006 06:35 PM

67

Den,

The tracert is cool and fun but I think the att.net is not the only NSA trap. Also west coasters will hop through the SF backbone and all of that will come back as hopping on att.net. So I am not convinced by what the author wrote but interesting just the same.

From here in NM I have run tracert with every domain name I frequent and none hop on att.net but I doubt those results are a bona fide "clean bill of health".


capt

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 06:42 PM

68

THE US GOVERNMENT INFORMED OTHER NATIONS OF ITS PLAN TO INVADE AFGHANISTAN MONTHS BEFORE THE 9/11 ATTACKS

9-11 happened at the exact time the US needed such an event to anger the American people into supporting a war already planned and ready to go.
----
the american people are unlikely to embrace such remilitarization as we are proposing absent some catastrophic pearl-harbor-like event
~PNAC (including cheney & jeb)

Posted by: spy on this! at September 13, 2006 06:46 PM

69

Alan,

I was kinda hoping you'd just quit responding to James Ha, aka "Spy." The reason is that without anyone else to egg him on, I thought he might cease his pollution of this blog.

I noticed his posts are getting uglier and uglier, even going so far as to denigrate the very existence of the World Trade Center. His behavior is really quite bizarre.

Personally, I find it completely pointless and a waste of time to attempt engagement with a person who clearly has mental problems.

Posted by: Tim at September 13, 2006 06:46 PM

70

good one tim! i am denigrating the wtc!
you and alan however, are not only dishonoring the 9/11 victims but honoring the alleged 19 villains with your continuing effort of looking the other way!
no doubt i am the one with mental problems!
you however are still dishonoring the 9/11 victims.

Posted by: spy on this! at September 13, 2006 06:51 PM

71

Syria Says US Behind Attack On Own Embassy

Jerusalem, Israel (AHN) - Senior Syrian government official have accused the US of being behind Tuesday's assault on its own embassy in downtown Damascus.

A Baath party official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told WorldNetDaily, "We in the government are 100 percent sure America was behind this attack, which is not the same as other attacks by Islamic groups."

He explained, "Only the Americans can succeed in carrying out an attack just 200 meters from President [Bashar] Assad's residence in the most heavily guarded section of Syria."

More HERE

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I have heard crazier things that turned out to be true.

The nature of such is standard "false flag" operations. That is if you have to capacity to question your own government.

capt

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 06:52 PM

72

Capt, drop me an e-mail and let me know how to run tracert here, I'll check it out here in CA.

Thanks, gotta run, later!

Posted by: DEN at September 13, 2006 06:54 PM

73

200 meters?

Maybe the attack was a shot across the bow for President [Bashar] Assad's benefit? A little in your face violence to intimidate?

Possible, eh?

capt

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 06:55 PM

74

Gerald wrote: >It Will Take A Miracle I'm afraid so, friend...I'm afraid so. But Gerald, I think you need to modify your rhetoric slightly. Perhaps we should refer to the Republicans as the National Conservative Party, and thus we could refer to them as "Nat-C's". Lord have mercy...that is my prayer. Deliver us from evil. Bush and cronies are indeed evil. Judge a tree by its fruits, such death and destruction their policies have borne! Bob in North Dakota

Posted by: Bob in North Dakota at September 13, 2006 07:07 PM

75

NAT-C's - good one! and we could refer to those who find it expedient to look the other way (for whatever reasons) as NOT-SEES!

Posted by: spy on this! at September 13, 2006 07:11 PM

76

Force is all-conquering, but its victories are short-lived. ~Abraham Lincoln

=
And so, to the end of history, murder shall breed murder, always in the name of right and honor and peace: George Bernard Shaw - Irish playwright "Caesar and Cleopatra"

=
"But I know now that there is not a chance in hell of America becoming humane and reasonable. Because power corrupts us, and absolute power corrupts us absolutely. Human beings are chimpanzees who get crazy drunk on power. By saying that our leaders are power-drunk chimpanzees, am I in danger of wrecking the morale of our soldiers fighting and dying in the Middle East? Their morale, like so many lifeless bodies, is already shot to pieces. They are being treated, as I never was, like toys a rich kid got for Christmas."
-- Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. (1922- ) Author

=
The moment a man claims a right to control the will of a fellow being by physical force, he is at heart a slaveholder. ~Henry C. Wright, The Liberator, 7 April 1837

=
"You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.": John Morley - (1838-1923) - Source: Critical Miscellanies

=
As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand: -Josh Billings

===
Thanks ICH Newsletter!

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 07:11 PM

Posted by: spy on this! at September 13, 2006 07:18 PM

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Report: Majority Of Americans Unprepared For Apocalypse

WASHINGTON, DC Over 87 percent of Americans are unprepared to protect themselves from even the most basic world-ending scenarios, according to a study released Monday by the nonpartisan doomsday think-tank The Malthusian Institute.

Despite "more than ample warning" for the most likely means of worldwide destruction, less than one million American households have taken even the simplest precautions against nuclear shockwaves, asteroid impact, or a host of angels bearing swords of fire, the study concluded.

"Our survey of households in seven U. S. regions demonstrated that few citizens have bothered to equip themselves with fireproof suits and extinguishers to deal with volcanic upheaval, solar flares, or the Lord's purifying flame," Malthusian Institute director James Olheiser said. "Almost no one is prepared for a sudden shift in the Earth's polarity or the eating of the Sun and moon by evil wolves Skol and Hati during Ragnarok."

Olheiser added: "All in all, America gets an 'F' for end-of-the-world preparedness."

More HERE

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The $300,000,000,000.00 we have spent in Iraq could have made us prepared here at home.

capt

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 07:18 PM

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 13, 2006 07:23 PM

80

I find it completely pointless and a waste of time to attempt engagement with a person who clearly has mental problems.
Posted by: Tim at September 13, 2006 06:46 PM

Then don't engage, little nazi boy.

Posted by: Carrie at September 13, 2006 07:26 PM

81

Corn and Isikoff on Hardball 5 minutes ago.

Matthews runs a MoveON.org ad, then starts off a question with "Try to be fair now ...".

Now that's refreshing - to have such a "foaming at the mouth lib" like Matthews admit that these two hacks are not journalists, but agenda-driven left wingers! (At least Corn's lies haven't directly resulted in deaths, unlike Isikoff's "Koran-flushing" lies).

Posted by: denmac at September 13, 2006 07:28 PM

82

Jon Stewart reaches out to the President while Little Richard gives us the low down

Bush's 9/11 . . .I mean Iraq war speech was so bad and politicized that The Daily Show called in Little Richard to be an interpreter for the masses and he uncovered exactly what Bush was telling the country.

Video-WMP

Video-QT later

Afterwards, Jon felt compelled to reach out to President Bush in an act of solidarity to lend some helpful advice:

Stewart: "What I'm saying it this; If this is a battle for civilization, make your case and gear it up. Let's World War II this thing. Alright? And if it's not, stop scaring the shit out of everybody every two years."


(h/t Mike Legra for helping out with the post)


More HERE

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I laughed hard when I saw this last night. Just in case anybody missed it.


capt

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 07:35 PM

83

@80 -
i'd like to point out that he actually doesn't engage. for instance, he claims to believe that the govt account of the demise of the wtc is accurate, yet when shown a simple photo and asked a simple question he pretends that it isn't there - that's disengagement at it's finest!
here it is once more:

here is wtc2 less than 1/2 it's original size: poof!
where did the rest of it go? in order to have pancaking, a force is required to trigger the failure of the next floor. if the building above that floor has been pulverized,(see poof!) there can be no force pushing down. any pulverized material remaining over the footprint of the building will be suspended in the air and can't contribute to a downward force slamming onto the next floor.
only
10 seconds to poof!

so no matter how many times someone says that: the entire weight of the block of upper 30 floors crushed the next floor down and so on and so on for all 110-30=80 floors and that's what NIST says so of course i accept that despite it being pointed out to me that NIST are govt shills, that someone has still not commented on my simple photo/question which shows that the NIST explanation is not correct.

Posted by: spy on this! at September 13, 2006 07:53 PM

84

Den, Capt, et al.,

This is a good link from which to run tracert, dns lookup, reverse lookup, and to get A, MX and other DNS records.

http://www.dnsstuff.com

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 13, 2006 08:03 PM

85

And YES, it was built on a glorified scaffle, not a ladder.

haha @ scaffle I was typing that fast because I got a call. The problem went downhill before I got there too, but it's all good now. Ok, the scaffold is called a moment frame, but Spy knows this, because I've told him and showed him many times. Well, maybe he doesn't know it, because he forgets easy. He doesn't keep up with his own posts, much less what anybody else's says. K, my spelling mistake was at #45, so I'm reading from there. I can't wait to see what's been posted about it. hehe

Posted by: Alan at September 13, 2006 08:06 PM

86

"And since you know you cannot see yourself,
so well as by reflection, I, your glass,
will modestly discover to yourself,
that of yourself which you yet know not of."

William Shakespeare (1564 - 1616)

Some of you here can just consider me your looking glass.

Posted by: Tim at September 13, 2006 08:08 PM

87

"What information consumes is rather obvious: it consumes the attention of its recipients. Hence, a wealth of information creates a poverty of attention and a need to allocate that attention efficiently among the overabundance of information sources that might consume it."

Herbert Simon, economist

This applies to the web, my friends, so be careful where you spend your precious time.

Posted by: Tim at September 13, 2006 08:16 PM

88

"The great corrupter of public man is the ego. Looking at the mirror distracts one's attention from the problem."

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 13, 2006 08:17 PM

89

Corn Quote of the Day

Who never met a less inquisative person at such a high level of government and when did he say it?

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 13, 2006 08:19 PM

90

... and finally, the one that describes our resident conspiracy nut the beat!

"I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives."

Leo Tolstoy (1828 - 1910)

Posted by: Tim at September 13, 2006 08:20 PM

91

BYU's explanation for Jones's review cites his accusations about government involvementÑwhich are outside his area of expertiseÑnot the quality of his research into the collapse's physics, the discipline in which errors would suggest a lack of fitness to carry on his job.

Boy, they twisted the logic of that one all around, now didn't they? The correct logic is... since it's out of his area of expertise, he has no business making accusations like that he can't prove , and he won't submit his data to peer review. All he had to do was submit his paper first, let his work hold up itself if it's so 'true', with people that are in that field of expertise. More bizarro world logic... it's a conspiracy by Dubya to get him fired. haha I bet Dubya's stooooopid azz has never even heard of Steven Jones.

Posted by: Alan at September 13, 2006 08:21 PM

92

#83 - Spy on this

The North Tower was impacted 94th-98th floors. That leaves the top 12 floors' mass to "pancake" the floors below.

The South Tower was impacted 78th-84th floors. That leaves the top 26 floors' to "pancake" the floors below. The greater mass above the impact point, as well as angle of entry of the plane, clearly explains why the South Tower would have fallen first.

But that aside, where are the 2900+ people (including some well known personalities) "lost" on 9/11 being held incommunicado? And held by whom? And for what purpose?

You can twist perception, but reality won't budge.

Posted by: denmac at September 13, 2006 08:21 PM

93

... of course I meant to say the BEST! So apropo...

Posted by: Tim at September 13, 2006 08:22 PM

94

I've pretty much stayed on the sidelines of this whole WTC conspiracy but I need to ask a question.

Bush was sworn in in January 2001. At that time, and even after September 11, 2001, the previous administrations appointees in the CIA and FBI were still in charge, Tenet & Freeh. There are even many of you who claim that the "Clinton Army" defeated the Taliban. So, with an administration so incompetent and inept, who planned, orchestrated and executed the attacks on the WTC in less than 9 months with not even the New York Times finding out about it?

Regarding the WTC as an excuse for an attack on Afghanistan. Bush didn't need 911. He had the first WTC attack, the embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, the attack on the Khobar towers and the attack on the U.S.S. Cole as reasons for going into Afghanistan. Just because Clinton would not do anything about them would not have prevented Bush from acting on those attacks. He could have announced that we were at war with terror in his inauguration speech and gone right into Afghanistan and would have had evidence to support it. I think too many of you actually believed the Wag the Tail movie.

Posted by: TRH at September 13, 2006 08:25 PM

95

Denmac,

"You can twist perception, but reality won't budge."

Very well said - succinct and to the heart of the issue.

Posted by: Tim at September 13, 2006 08:25 PM

96

Men of genius are not quick judges of character. Deep thinking and high imagining blunt that trivial instinct by which you and I size people up.

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 13, 2006 08:26 PM

97

#57 geof01, I agree! When the draft is reinstated the rich will frolic on the beaches and there will be more wars to kill off the children of poor and middle class parents. The war profiteers will fleece more money from the American taxpayers to gain more and more profits from the wars.

#78 capt, wasting money by Americans is a hobby!!!

How can anyone want the return of the draft when we know that Bush cannot be trusted to have the lives of our men and women in his hands? His hands are filled with blood and blood money. The return of the draft will be a sad day for the families of poor and middle class children.

Posted by: Gerald at September 13, 2006 08:27 PM

98

TRH,

Welcome back! My vote is with Al Qaida if for no other reason than it took them years to plan and execute the attacks, whereas the present administration had only been in power for 9 months!

The answers are as "plain as the nose on your face" as they say. Too bad so many willfully choose to deny the truth.

Posted by: Tim at September 13, 2006 08:31 PM

99

that's because he's in a foreign country and the american govt/mcmedia did it's very best to downplay the existence of wtc7's demise. LMAO!

So you're still sticking with his analysis? haha He seen one video, that's his research?
You're truly worse than I thought silly paranoid boi.

Posted by: Alan at September 13, 2006 08:32 PM

100

Tim

I'm not a movie goer so it may have been "Wag the Dog." Either way, I didn't like Clinton but I never criticized him when he was President. Many on this site wish Bush and others in his cabinet to be dead. They applaud books and movies that speak of assinating the President. That is hatred at its' worst. It is possible Hillary could be elected in 2008. I do not agree with one thing she believes. However, she would be my President and I would never wish her harm. oo bad those on the left will not admit to the same.

Posted by: TRH at September 13, 2006 08:38 PM

101

#89,

David Kay about incurious Monkey-boy (Crusader Codpiece - Bunnypants)

capt

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 08:40 PM

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 13, 2006 08:41 PM

103

DEN, here's part of a quote on aluminum oxide.

Large tonnnages are also used in the manufacture of zeolites, coating titania pigments and as a fire retardants/smoke suppressant.

I dunno if "Blaze Shield", the actual fireproofing used on the towers, has aluminum oxide in it or not.

Posted by: Alan at September 13, 2006 08:42 PM

104

101 Yep. It tells me Bush already knew.

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 13, 2006 08:43 PM

Posted by: Gerald at September 13, 2006 08:43 PM

106

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ~ Theodore Roosevelt (1858 - 1919)

"The death-knell of the republic had rung as soon as the active power became lodged in the hands of those who sought, not to do justice to all citizens, rich and poor alike, but to stand for one special class and for its interests as opposed to the interests of others. " ~ Theodore Roosevelt, Labor Day speech at Syracuse, NY, Sept 7, 1903 ("Theodore Rex" - Edmund Morris)

"When you look at yourself from a universal standpoint, something inside always reminds or informs you that there are bigger and better things to worry about. " ~ Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955), The World as I See It.

"A human being is part of a whole, called by us the Universe, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings, as something separated from the rest--a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circles of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty. " ~ Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)

"He who joyfully marches to music rank and file, has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be a part of so base an action. It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder." ~ Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 08:49 PM

Posted by: Gerald at September 13, 2006 08:51 PM

108

Juan Cole

offers some comparisons between Iraq and Vietnam today...

Posted by: David B. Benson at September 13, 2006 08:51 PM

109

Have watched a show on FSTV (Free Speech TV) named "Visiting Palestine" - About a gal that helps Palestinian civilians (mothers and children).

A great show if you have not seen it already.

On our Dishnet it is channel 9415


capt

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 08:53 PM

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 13, 2006 08:53 PM

111

#107

Signed and sent,

Thanks

capt

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 09:02 PM

112

"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity." ~ Frank Leahy

"When they discover the center of the universe, a lot of people will be disappointed to discover they are not it." ~ Bernard Bailey


"Conceit is God's gift to little men." ~ Bruce Barton

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 09:06 PM

113

Come on you conspiracy theorists. My question is rather simple. Who in the Bush administration pulled off this attack in less than 9 months? Even Richard Clark was still in the loop and he didn't know about it? His claim is that Bush didn't heed his warnings. So is Clark covering up for the Bush administration? Is he part of the conspiracy? After all, he is the left's hero in this incident.

Posted by: TRH at September 13, 2006 09:06 PM

114

Armchair Sleuths Uncover Strange Military Sites in China

YINCHUAN, China - Tech-savvy armchair sleuths around the world are having a field day discovering military secrets in China.

Three times in the past few months, they've stumbled across unusual military installations using Internet programs that allow those online to view satellite and aerial images of the world.

In the most recent find, users spotted an underwater submarine tunnel off China's Hainan Island. They've also found a mock-up of a Taiwanese air base in China's remote western desert. In a bizarre discovery, a computer technician in Germany noticed a huge and startlingly accurate terrain model in northwest China that replicates a sensitive border area with India.

The discoveries have stirred up the Internet global-imagery community.


More HERE

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Interesting piece.

capt

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 09:19 PM

115

TRH,

I agree. I respected President Clinton because he was our President - at least up until he committed perjury and was impeached.

I'll just make my prediction now - Hillary Clinton won't be elected president and likely won't even be the Dem's nominee.

Posted by: Tim at September 13, 2006 09:22 PM

116

10 Billion Dollars Could Buy Universal Schooling

WASHINGTON - More than 43 million children living in conflict-affected countries are not able to attend school, according to a new report released Tuesday by the International Save the Children Alliance, which called on donor countries and multilateral agencies to commit 5.8 billion dollars a year to address the problem.

The 48-page report, which was released here and in 39 other countries worldwide, said only 30 percent of total foreign aid earmarked for education in the world's 63 poorest countries -- the vast majority in sub-Saharan Africa and South and West Asia -- went to the 30 countries affected by or emerging from regional or internal conflicts.

Among the countries with the highest percentages of non-enrollment are Afghanistan, Angola, the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), Cote d'Ivoire, Ethiopia, Pakistan, Sudan, and Uganda, according to the report, entitled "Rewrite the Future".

"Today the majority of victims from war are civilians, not soldiers, and those left destitute are mostly children," said Charlie MacCormack president of the U.S. chapter of Save the Children. "The world cannot stand by, leaving these children without education and without hope or opportunity, in some cases for generations."

The group stressed that, without schools, children were far more susceptible to recruitment by armies and militias or other forms of exploitation.

More HERE

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The children are the future is not just a pithy slogan. We have to take education seriously.

capt

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 09:23 PM

117

Tim

Even if she is the nominee, I do not believe she will win. However, if she did win, I would never wish her or any of her administration harm. I think Jimmy Carter is the worst President of the 20th Century. I, however, do not wish him harm. Nor do I call him names. Especially in a venue where he has no opporunity to respond. Mighty brave of the leftists who use "fighting" words against Bush in a venue where they know they are safe from a real fight.

Posted by: TRH at September 13, 2006 09:28 PM

118

Senate Republicans defy Bush over terrorism trials

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Defying President George W. Bush, a group of Senate Republicans on Wednesday said they would press ahead with legislation to try foreign terrorism suspects that the White House said would stifle CIA intelligence-gathering.

Top Republicans on the Senate Armed Services Committee strongly denounced the White House's plan to try suspects held at Guantanamo Bay, which critics say could allow abusive interrogations and deprive suspects of basic rights.

"How many more times do we need to create legislation that's defective, that's going to confuse people, that's got not a snowball's chance in hell of passing Supreme Court muster?" South Carolina Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham said of Bush's proposal.

Bush, who has come under fire for harsh treatment of prisoners at Guantanamo and abuses at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, needs Congress to approve a system to try suspects after the Supreme Court in June struck down his original plan.


More HERE

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We find these truths to be self evident, all men are create equal and their rights unalienable. That is if you truly believe in America.


capt

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 09:29 PM

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Even Richard Clark was still in the loop and he didn't know about it? His claim is that Bush didn't heed his warnings.

That's correct TRH, that bush didn't heed Richard Clarke's advice (not sure about "warning"... I can't see him using that word to the president). It was Bill Clinton that warned bush about the #1 threat to America, so bush didn't heed his warning. As for Richard Clarke, the Terrorism Czar... his job was pushed down a notch from a cabinet level position to a 'seconds' level. He now met with assistants to cabinet officers instead of the principals. That's a layer down the rung. He pushed and pushed for a seat at a principals' meeting he wanted convened to make the new cabinet aware of that threat.
Next, I'm sure you know about the President's Daily Brief on August 6th, titled "al Qaeda Determined to Attack in the USA". Bush went on vacation instead of react to that alarm by the country's top intelligence people.
So no, no one in his administration planned a conspiracy to attack America. His lack of diligence and his incompentence was the reason America couldn't prevent an atack. They will stall and lie to their dying day to prevent the rest of America from finding that out and blaming this administration for their errors. Unfortunately, the more bizarre part of our society think that means he planned it.

Posted by: Alan at September 13, 2006 09:40 PM

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Who attacked the U.S. embassy in Damascus Рand why?

To hear the American government and its Israeli allies tell it, the struggle in the Middle East is a straightforward black-and-white one, which pits the Forces of Goodness (Washington and Tel Aviv) against "terrorists" and terrorist-supporting states like Iran and Syria. This narrative enables the Americans and the Israelis to mask their own agendas Рregional hegemony, territorial expansion (on Israel's part), and access to cheap oil Рbehind the "war on terrorism" rubric. It also lets them lump together groups Рincluding Hamas, Hezbollah, and al-Qaeda Рthat are not only different but opposed to each other's interests, their only commonality being that they are Arab, Muslim, and armed. However, every once in a while, reality intrudes and the official narrative suffers a direct hit: the latest such incident is the recent attack on the U.S. embassy in Damascus.

Syrian security forces gunned down three men who tried to blow up the U.S. embassy in Damascus Tuesday, wounding and capturing another. The upscale Abu Romana area, where embassies and the houses of the rich nestle near the presidential palace of Bashar al-Assad, was the scene of a 30-minute gun battle. Shouting religious slogans and firing RPGs, four Takfiri, reportedly members of Jund al-Sham (Soldiers of Syria), a shadowy jihadist Sunni group vaguely affiliated with al-Qaeda, stormed the building. One Syrian guard was killed and two were wounded, in what is being described as a failed attempt to detonate a car bomb in front of the embassy. Eleven civilian bystanders were injured.

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice expressed her gratitude for the Syrian response. Tony Snow echoed this uncharacteristic note of civility and thanks to the Syrians, opining that American gratitude "does not mean they are an ally. We are hoping they will become an ally and make the choice of fighting against terrorists."

More HERE

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Another interesting take on the Syrian "attacks".


capt

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 09:40 PM

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The following is a redacted text of the presidential daily briefing from August 6, 2001:

August 6, PDB


BIN LADEN Determined to Strike in U.S.

Clandestine, foreign government, and media reports indicate Bin Ladensince 1997 has wanted to conduct terrorist attacks in the U.S. Bin Laden implied in U.S. television interviews in 1997 and 1998 that his followers would follow the example of World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef and "bringthe fighting to America." :

After U.S. missile strikes on his base in Afghanistan in 1998, Bin Ladentold followers he wanted to retaliate in Washington, according to a [deleted text] service.

An Egyptian Islamic Jihad (EIJ) operative told [deleted text] service at the same time that Bin Laden was planning to exploit the operative's access to the U.S. to mount a terrorist strike.


More HERE

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 09:45 PM

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I think Jimmy Carter is the worst President of the 20th Century. I, however, do not wish him harm. Nor do I call him names. Especially in a venue where he has no opporunity to respond.
Posted by: TRH at September 13, 2006 09:28 PM

Nice fable. That's an awful long way to go, an elaborate construct, just to call some of the liberals on this blog cowards.

When have you ever been in a situation to tell a president what you think?

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 13, 2006 09:48 PM

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JUNIOR

In the immediate aftermath of the September 11th attacks, Fadl proved disappointingly unable to shed light on the plot. He had been out of Al Qaeda for too long, and knew none of the hijackers. But, a few months later, when the F.B.I. showed him photographs of prisoners who had been captured on the battlefields of Afghanistan and transferred to Guantanamo, he went right to work, Anticev told me. Fadl was shown photographs of between sixty and seventy detainees. F.B.I. sources say that he recognized two men as longtime Al Qaeda figures.

More HERE


capt

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 09:51 PM

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Alan,

I do not think any administration could have stopped 911. Given the shape of our intelligence agencies at the time and what they could do and could not do, without a pre-attack confession from a would be attacker about when or where, what is one to do? I am not defending Bush nor blaming Clinton, but our intelligence resources were still in a cold war status when they should have been on alert for terrorist activity. Do you once ever recall hearing about "chatter" before 911? Were the intelligence agancies not listening in on activity before all the attacks in the 1990's? Or were they just ignoring it?

Posted by: TRH at September 13, 2006 09:52 PM

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119 Alan. I could not have said it better myself. Anybody here want to take issue with the facts and conclusions Alan states in his post?

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 13, 2006 09:54 PM

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Watch the National Geographic documentary. They provide detail about what intelligence counter-terrorism, the CIA and the FBI had and was putting in front of the president.

W made a deliberate decision to delay taking any action on terrorism until they devised a comprehensive plan. Clinton told Bush terrorism would be his #1 priority. Bush decided he knew better. Whoops.

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 13, 2006 10:00 PM

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O'Reilly

Does it give you the jollies to call Bush names and wish him harm? Has nothing to do about saying it to their face, simply the thought that you would feel the need to do so in the first place. You can argue against policies all day without resorting to name calling and wishing people dead. At least some people can.

Posted by: TRH at September 13, 2006 10:01 PM

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Bush Threw Us a 'Curveball'

Report Shines a Light on 'Crazy' Iraqi Informant


The case of Curveball was relevant to the election because it went to the heart of the administration's competency in managing national security. At best, what emerges from the presidential commission's report is a picture of an American leadership in total disarray on national security; at worst, it shows widespread complicity at the top in a concerted effort to deceive the electorate on matters of war.

Recall that then-CIA Director George Tenet, later rewarded by Bush with the Medal of Freedom, provided the basic briefing and final vetting of Powell's disastrously false presentation of the case against Iraq. According to the commission's report, Tenet was working with Powell the night before the U.N. speech when he spoke on the phone to a high-ranking CIA official who warned him not to rely on Curveball's information. That warning had been issued by others in the agency, but Tenet claims that he cannot recollect hearing it.

In fact, the CIA had long harbored strong doubts concerning Curveball's veracity. The foreign government holding him had even informed the U.S. that the Iraqi exile was a "fabricator" who had suffered a "nervous breakdown" and was "crazy." But his words were spirited all the way to the top of the administration because they conveniently supported its vision to use 9/11 as an excuse to create a compliant Middle East through aggressive use of U.S. military power.

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Now looking back and with the supporting facts I have read in HUBRIS: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War it is clear Bush knew the information was complete hokum. No doubt.

Bush IS a liar, but we know that from Mr. David Corns book "The lies of George W. Bush" so calling him a liar is both correct and true, eh?


capt

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 10:04 PM

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And then there were the lies. . . no one ever imagined they'd hijack airplanes and fly them into buildings. We know that's not true.

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 13, 2006 10:04 PM

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Clinton warned Bush terrorism was priority #1? Clinton knew this since 1993 and what did he do? In 8 years he not only did nothing, he did not even have a "comprehensive plan." Bush may not have bee active, but at least they were working on a plan. 9 months vs. 8 years. Who was ignoring the obvious?

Posted by: TRH at September 13, 2006 10:05 PM

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Kamikazes 1942, The Byck hijacking 1974.

Right, nobody EVER thought of planes as missiles.

This misadministration is built of all liars and thugs. They are traitors and antithetical to American doctrine and they have no respect for the "rule of law" or the constitution.

The truth is a positive defense to slander, always has been. Bush and his evil cabal are neo-nazis. Check under Prescott Bush you will find plenty, read up and decide for yourselves.

capt

Posted by: capt at September 13, 2006 10:09 PM

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Calling Bush names comes with the territory. He's got thick skin, I wouldn't worry about that. If you however take offense, that's your problem.

As far as wishing Bush dead, I've never felt that way but I understand why others do. He abused his power and took us to war in Iraq - an aggressive and unprovoked war and he knew the reasons he gave to the american public were not true - no nuclear weapon, no wmd, no al qaeda relationship, no threat. He was pretty much bottled up. War on false pretenses. It was Bush's call. My friend Sharon died in Tikrit. I think Bush made a terrible mistake.

Posted by: O'Reilly at September 13, 2006 10:10 PM

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92 denmac
where are the 2900+ people (including some well known personalities) "lost" on 9/11 being held incommunicado

since they were crushed in the towers' demise i would assume that they are being held somewhere in the great beyond.
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alan, beavis is the smart one boi.

Posted by: spy on this! at September 13, 2006 10:11 PM

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So tell me, who was it who brought the WTC down? What Bush administration official or agency accomplished this mission?

I'll even jump on the conspiracy bandwagon. Al Gore, devastaed over the 2000 election loss, called in some favors after his 8 years of being VP and many years in government. He was hoping an attack on America would make us realize that Bush could not protect us and he would run in 2004 as the savior of America. That did not materialize and he did not run in 2004. I'll admit that is far fetched when you other conspiracy theorists realize that your theories are just as far fetched. I don't think that will happen. Of course, mine was just made up as I was posting this. It has just as much credibility as those of you who have been working 5 years on yours.

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