are we supposed to believe that they are not spying because they are not allowed to spy?
--
If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator.
- bush

Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.
-bush

Some more analysis of this case here:

Unclaimed Territory by Glenn Greenwald

The Anonymous Liberal

Balkinization

Spy on that!

Move to RUSSIA if you want to live under Vladmir Putins iron rule! This is America, not Russia. The independants and democrats will PURSUE better ways to protect our airlines, borders and chemical plants. Go to Google news and read about how incompetent the Republican Congress is it has the lowest approval public ratings going allllllllllllllllllllll the way back to when George Washington was president. In short, this is the worst Congress ever and thats what the public says. NOT ME! ;D

Sen. Orrin Hatch, who continuously decries the bitter partisanship in Washington, implied this week that Democratic success in November's election could result in terrorist attacks on America.

It looks as though at least one of King George's attempts at hegemony has been thwarted. Maybe our democratic republic still stands a chance at that. Down with the king!

Hitler will do whatever he wants to do because he is king, emperor, ruler, and a low life amoeba.

Next step impeach the clown. Cheney too, and some others, I need a program to get all of them.

An Interesting Study

Dear Cornposters:

Bush is an interesting study in stupidity. He wants to spread American democracy worldwide. What a joke! We have no democracy our elections are rigged. We also hear that Iraq may never have a democracy. I ask you why all the killing, maiming, and destruction in Iraq? Was it for Bush to give the impression that he is a man? Bush is not even the equivalent of a pimple on a GOP elephant’≥ behind. He is not even the equivalent of a pimple on Joe Average’≥ behind. Bush is a nothing but a total disaster and fraud as an emperor. There is no doubt that Bush is an interesting study in stupidity.

American Soldiers

2,931 American soldiers have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan for Bush and his lies.

18,500+ American soldiers have been maimed in Iraq and Afghanistan for Bush and his evil lies.

55,000+ of the 140,000 American soldiers are suffering from PTSD. Stress disorder has increased and the percentage is now around 40%.

Over 350,000+ Iraqis have been killed in Iraq since Bush declared shock and awe bombings on March 19, 2003.

Contamination from depleted uranium may have affected 125,000+ American soldiers and several million Iraqis.

I will try to share with you a money figure for our war and occupation in Iraq. Our government taps into different bottomless money wells for wars and it is difficult to always know the correct amount of money that is being spent. Money figures will probably change from time to time. By 2010 we will have spent in Iraq $1.2 trillion. We will be in Iraq for at least 50 years and the money figure that is mentioned is $8 to 10 trillion. We will probably never leave Iraq, especially with 14 permanent bases in Iraq and of the 14 permanent bases 4 are mega military bases. Iraq will have access to a bottomless money well.

BUSH IS A UNITER! HE HAS UNITED THE TERRORISTS AROUND THE WORLD TO MAKE NAZI AMERICA, ENEMY NUMBER ONE! Are you feeling more safe and secure with Bush in the WH and Cheney as his chief hatchet man overseeing Nazi America and her citizens?

Our military men and women are used as cannon fodder for a terrorist Nazi American government.

Sincerely,

Gerald

#2
Hey Rick.

You damn Repugs.
Why does it always have to come back to Bill Clinton and his many rapes, his murdering of Vince Foster, his many lies under oath, his draft dodging and his total corruption. Sure, he did all those things, and much worse, but he isn't in office now.

President Bush is in office now, and YES, President Bush made a mistake also. President Bush did not kill Saddam. Granted, that is the only mistake he has made through out his administration, but it is a mistake none the less.

All you people who keep going back to, Bill Clinton the rapist, the liar, the crook, the murderer, the draft dodger, just remember, even though all that is absolutely proven true fact about Bill Clinton, President Bush didn't kill Saddam, and that was a mistake.

So put that in your Repug pipe and smoke it.

MY THREE SONS!

7 What the F**K
Next step impeach the clown. Cheney too, and some others, I need a program to get all of them.

=========
Aren't you the one better known as, "Shit Eater"?
You must be, because your #7 post looks like you ate your usual shit sandwich for lunch and then spew it back out onto this blog at post # 7.

Mr. David Corn,

Another very good piece with some good news for all patriots and Americans. One question: what will this change if Bush just ignores it? He (and those that support him) will NEVER listen.

The neocons (and their supporters) will not obey anything from the courts, it is not in their nature.

Thanks for all of your work.

capt

Shhhhhhhhhh! LISTEN. You're about the hear a whine from the neo-con right wing authoritarians about how this judge is wrong to protect our fourth amendment rights and how liberals deserve it if terrorists attack in the US.

Hi, Jeanne. What do you think of Judge Taylor's ruling?

waaaa waaaaaa waaaaa

binky
nunck nunck nunck

Things Fall Apart

The Empire Is Crumbling

"Things fall apart; the center cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand."
- W. B. Yeats, "The Second Coming"

Israeli War Crimes

But all of this, like the "faked photograph affair," is another layer of distraction. The real issue that should be the most pressing matter at the top of the world's agenda is not an assessment of the mutual crimes against property but the mostly one-sided crimes against human beings – the massive Israeli war crimes that have been committed throughout the past month in Lebanon, whose effects will continue as cluster bombs blow up returning refugees, and are still being committed every day against the Palestinians of Gaza and the West Bank.

This urgent moral case is being quietly overlooked in favor of the material damages story, and for reasons not hard to discern. Because if we concentrated on the tally of war crimes, Israel would come out the undoubted winner in both Lebanon and Gaza.

Hitler, Olmert, and Blair are cold blooded murderers.

What this war on terror really needs is a nnother terrorist attack. Nobody would oppose the war on terror after that.

"What we are witnessing in the Middle East is the sad spectacle of a once great nation dissipating its resources on a futile crusade to implant 'democracy' in inhospitable soil. These aren't the 'birth pangs' of a new, U.S.-Israeli regional hegemon, but the death throes of an American Empire that is expiring before it is even properly born."

Now it's just a matter of surviving the fall.

We are witnessing the glorious death of the American Empire!!!

Glorious, simply glorious!!!

Grasroots Sweating for Democracy

The pitfalls of machismo

The second Lebanon War began with an impulsive spasm by the Israel Defense Forces - an overreaction that killed civilians and severely damaged civilian infrastructure. This move exacted, and will continue to exact, a heavy strategic price: It severely impaired the chances of freeing the Middle East of the threat of an Iranian revolution.

Since 1973, Israel has not succeeded in providing military solutions to geopolitical questions. The 1978 Litani Operation and 1982 invasion of Lebanon did not lead to security for the north. The Palestinians in the territories, despite the thousands of dead, the destruction and subjugation that two intifadas have brought upon them, have refused to reconcile themselves to the occupation, and are instead strengthening Hamas. The IDF is incapable of beating them.

However, this reality has not yet sunk into the consciousness of our generals, men of the old school who were educated in the spirit of the slogan that what cannot be done with force can be done with more force. The arrogant idee fixe of 1973, which held that the Arabs' defeat in 1967 had destroyed their desire to fight, did not disappear with the Agranat Report. It is still here, wrapped in modern phrases such as "searing their consciousness" and "restoring deterrence." Its prophets stubbornly ignore the fact that if anything has been seared into the Arabs' consciousness in any of these cases, it is only hatred for Israel and its addiction to force.

More HERE

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None so blind as those who will not see.

capt

capt, I thought they were "Gods chosen people?" And destined to possess the entire biblical borders awarded to them by Yahweh from The Nile River to the Euphrates? Maybe God changed his mind.

Great movie, pity about the Big Lie

When World Trade Center ended, I left the theater tense, my muscles aching. The superb directing and acting, coupled with still hardly imaginable scenes of death and destruction, had sent painful muscle spasms up my back, evoked tears, and left me, yet again, with searing and indelible images of that hellish morning of September 11, 2001.

I felt disoriented in the bright sunlight of a northern California afternoon. As my mind regained its critical faculties, however, another kind of shock set in. I suddenly realized that Oliver Stone's movie reinforces the Big Lie - endlessly repeated by Vice President Dick Cheney, echoed and amplified by the right-wing media - that the attacks of September 11 were somehow linked to Iraq or supported by Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.

More HERE

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How very mainstream.

"The great masses of the people... will more easily fall victims to a great lie than to a small one." ~ Adolf Hitler

capt

From mania to depression

I CALL UPON ISRAEL TO FULFILL HER TRUE DESTINATION TO BE THE LIGHT TO THE NATIONS!!!

It's now 5:50 PM EDT, and FOX news has not mentioned the court's decision to halt unauthorized wiretaps. Is anyone surprised that this "balanced" news source has proven once again what a waste of time it is?

#26,

I thought the Aryan race were chosen ones.

I get so confused.

capt

Israel is called upon to be the Light to the Nations. Israel must lead the toward world peace and not lead the way toward world wars.

Israel must lead the WAY toward world peace and not lead the way toward world wars.

and of course, further down in the same article at #27 is the truth...

And yet in none of these profoundly moving scenes is there even a mention of who might have committed this atrocity. Neither the name al-Qaeda nor Osama bin Laden is so much as whispered.

You might say, "But everyone knows it was al-Qaeda." And you'd be right, but do most Americans really know just who those terrorists were or that they had no connection to Iraq - that not a single one of them even came from that country?

What this war on terror really needs is a nnother terrorist attack. Nobody would oppose the war on terror after that.

Bill melon

We would, we reserve the right to be total moronic idiots when and where we choose at any given moment.

Unfortunately, Bunnypants has a "signing statement" in hand that says he doesn't have to listen to the court.

Darn, he out-smarted the law again.

capt

I thought the Zionists WERE Aryans!

dj, FOX did suggest that Muslims be detained in special lines at the airport, maybe they will also get their own drinking fountains and restrooms. Does that count?

and, further down even more...

That evening, I wrote the words that should have appeared in the postscript: "Government officials later confirmed that the organization that plotted the destruction of the World Trade Center was al-Qaeda, led by Osama bin Laden, a Saudi, and Ayman al-Zawahiri, an Egyptian. Nineteen men executed the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Fifteen of them came from Saudi Arabia; the remaining four from Egypt, the United Arab Emirates, and Lebanon. None of them came from Iraq."

govt. officials confirm. Now I AM convinced, HAHAHA.

Be skeptical ... be very skeptical

One of the significant contributions to the "war on terror" by Britain's home secretary David Blunkett before his abrupt departure from the Tony Blair cabinet last year was his statement on terrorism in the House of Commons that specifically flagged the possibility of a "dirty bomb" being planted in Britain by terrorists.

That was in November 2002, when preparations were already in an advanced stage for the march to Baghdad. We are still waiting for the dirty bomb and its lethal radiation. The dirty bomb genre, however, provoked two years later a brilliant television series on BBC2 by acclaimed documentary producer Adam Curtis, titled

The Power of Nightmares
: The Rise of the Politics of Fear.

Curtis's argument was that much of the threat of international terrorism turns out to be in actuality "a fantasy that has been exaggerated and distorted by politicians ... In an age when all the grand ideas have lost credibility, fear of a phantom enemy is all the politicians have left to maintain their power."

Curtis placed al-Qaeda terrorism in a long line of dramatic panics in Britain's checkered history since the Elizabethan era, which included the arrival of Spanish raiding parties, French revolutionary agitators, anarchists, Bolsheviks, and Irish republicans.

More HERE

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Being skeptical does require a little brain power, that is why the true believers never question what they are told. They lack the basic capacity to do so.

"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity."
~ Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)

capt

Alan, are you some kind of govt. hack? I am really curious as to this weird change of behavior.

The Court Jester has spoken!

Here is the statement from White House Press Secretary Tony Snow:

“Last week America and the world received a stark reminder that terrorists are still plotting to attack our country and kill innocent people. Today a federal judge in Michigan has ruled that the Terrorist Surveillance Program ordered by the President to detect and prevent terrorist attacks against the American people is unconstitutional and otherwise illegal.

“We couldn’t disagree more with this ruling, and the Justice Department will seek an immediate stay of the opinion and appeal. Until the Court has the opportunity to rule on a stay of the Court's ruling in a hearing now set for September 7, 2006, the parties have agreed that enforcement of the ruling will be stayed.

“United States intelligence officials have confirmed that the program has helped stop terrorist attacks and saved American lives. The program is carefully administered, and only targets international phone calls coming into or out of the United States where one of the parties on the call is a suspected Al Qaeda or affiliated terrorist.

“The whole point is to detect and prevent terrorist attacks before they can be carried out. That’s what the American people expect from their government, and it is the President’s most solemn duty to ensure their protection.

“The Terrorist Surveillance Program is firmly grounded in law and regularly reviewed to make sure steps are taken to protect civil liberties. The Terrorist Surveillance Program has proven to be one of our most critical and effective tools in the war against terrorism, and we look forward to demonstrating on appeal the validity of this vital program.”

Alan, are you some kind of govt. hack? I am really curious as to this weird change of behavior.

I'm afraid it started when James said "just blow me". And of course, all along pussboy capt would come from behind his mama's apron to spout off something to help you or james. The gloves are off now sweetie. You conspiracy wackos need some sense 'knocked' into you. That was really funny while ago. You posted something using a peer reviewed report and then pussboy posted something telling the truth about 9/11. Y'all better make up your minds or check what you post. Of course that wouldn't be the first time I had to point something out about your post that you had wrong.
"toodle-do"

Cafferty on the NSA Ruling: Bush is breaking the Law!

Jack Cafferty ripped into the Republican leadership today over the recent ruling that the NSA warrantless program is illegal. For all the wingers that say the NSA helped in the UK terror plot, they should turn to their good pal O’Reilly, who said that they got FISA warrants in that case which proves the point. Right wing blogger Ace asks where is the Congress? That’s a fair question, but it’s a Republican Congress and that’s been the problem. I’m not picking on Ace, but he says that

Video-WMP

Video-QT

(rough transcript-anyone care to finish it up?)

Cafferty: It’s not hypothetical. There are laws on the books against what the administration is doing. And it is about time somebody said it out loud. This federal district judge said today that President Bush is breaking the law–by spying on people in this country without a warrant… I hope it means the arrogant inner circle of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. may finally have to start answering to the people who own that address. That would be us–About how they conduct our country’s affairs.

Right wing blogger Ace asks where is the Congress? That’s a fair question, but it’s a Republican lead Congress and that’s been the problem. I’m not picking on Ace, but he says that:

On the heels of the SkyBomb busts, ably assisted by American signals intelligence (i.e., NSA intercepts), this judge has ruled that American efforts in this regard must stop immediately. I don’t question her timing. I question her sanity.

Just turn to the propaganda machine Bill O’Reilly for the answer. He said that they got FISA warrants in the UK terror case which disproves the point.

(h/t Mike)

More HERE

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Shall we collect the DC press corps and march down to the White House and make a "citizens arrest".

Bush has been breaking the law for years. Who is going to enforce the law? THAT is the real question.

capt

Etymology: Sanskrit Arya" noble," belonging to the people speaking an Indo-European dialect who migrated into northern India

Research finds 'unique human DNA'

Scientists say they have discovered a gene sequence which appears to play a central role in giving humans their unique brain capacity.

The area, called HAR1, has undergone accelerated evolutionary change in humans and is active during a critical stage in brain development.

The researchers compared genes from humans, chimpanzees and other animals to try to see which set man apart.

More HERE

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I am willing to bet some people are lacking the "human" gene. That is why Bush looks so chimp-like! HA!

capt

Just to clarify, "just blow me" isn't a frivolous comment to me... and you should know why. I've never failed to protect my manhood, no matter the cost (James). I've never put up with pissy little comments in person either, so now I won't let them go on here either (capt).

In its original sense, Aryan may or may not have had any racial meaning, not in the sense that some define race today. The term quite possibly grew from a tribalist self-identity. Now, some of the most racist people around call themselves "Arayans" by choice, most notably the Arayan Nations types who are proud of their hatred and bile directed at Jews, all "non-whites" and just about anyone else who isn't just like them.

Oh dear, the gloves are off, now he will engage in troll style name calling? For the record I have NEVER been rude with my 9/11 postings or comments nor engaged in the back and forth insults, yet I am now dragged into this. All the previous comments made by Alan praising those who do not treat others with the contempt he is now showing obviously meant nothing. He is just as capable of hatefulness as any practiced troll. I feel sorry for you Alan. Bare fists don't frighten me so have at it, you must live with your comments. micki will no doubt show up sooner or later to remind us of your "gallons of wisdom." That sort of wisdom I can live without.

White House vows fight for wiretaps

[..]

Here is the statement from White House Press Secretary Tony Snow:

"Last week America and the world received a stark reminder that terrorists are still plotting to attack our country and kill innocent people. Today a federal judge in Michigan has ruled that the Terrorist Surveillance Program ordered by the President to detect and prevent terrorist attacks against the American people is unconstitutional and otherwise illegal.

"We couldn’t disagree more with this ruling, and the Justice Department will seek an immediate stay of the opinion and appeal. Until the Court has the opportunity to rule on a stay of the Court's ruling in a hearing now set for September 7, 2006, the parties have agreed that enforcement of the ruling will be stayed.

"United States intelligence officials have confirmed that the program has helped stop terrorist attacks and saved American lives. The program is carefully administered, and only targets international phone calls coming into or out of the United States where one of the parties on the call is a suspected Al Qaeda or affiliated terrorist.

"The whole point is to detect and prevent terrorist attacks before they can be carried out. That’s what the American people expect from their government, and it is the President’s most solemn duty to ensure their protection.

"The Terrorist Surveillance Program is firmly grounded in law and regularly reviewed to make sure steps are taken to protect civil liberties. The Terrorist Surveillance Program has proven to be one of our most critical and effective tools in the war against terrorism, and we look forward to demonstrating on appeal the validity of this vital program."

More HERE

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More at the linked article.

capt

Since Olmert and Blair let Hitler lead the way, this is their recogniton

"Let's resoundingly clear up two widely disseminated misconceptions, the first of which is being quite deliberately tossed around:

"(1) Even with this Order, the Bush administration is free to continue to do all the eavesdropping on terrorists they want to do. They just have to do so with approval of the FISA court -- just like all administrations have done since 1978, just as the law requires, and just as they did when eavesdropping as part of the surveillance they undertook on the U.K. terror plot."

Unclaimed Territory by Glenn Greenwald

"This life is yours. Take the power to choose what you want to do and do it well. Take the power to love what you want in life and love it honestly. Take the power to walk in the forest and be a part of nature. Take the power to control your own life. No one else can do it for you. Take the power to make your life happy." ~ Susan Polis Schutz

"If you begin the day with love in your heart, peace in your nerves, and truth in your mind, you not only benefit by their presence but also bring them to others, to your family and friends, and to all those whose destiny draws across your path that day. " ~ Unknown

"Beginning today, treat everyone you meet as if they were going to be dead by midnight. Extend them all the care, kindness and understanding you can muster. Your life will never be the same again. " ~ Og Mandino (1923 - 1996), The Greatest Miracle in the World

this weird change of behavior.
i didn't notice any change - but:
James said "just blow me".
what!? i am outraged that i would say such a thing! do you remember what you said to me that prompted me to say that? i don't either. my apologies alan. but since you brought up 9/11 yet again i will remind tim the qualified;
"I am well qualified when it comes to aviation issues"
that he still has not explained where is the crash? in this photo of the official crash site.
it should be a simple matter for one who is not just merely qualified, but well qualified.

That sort of wisdom I can live without.

Touche'

I feel the same about yours. You were 'done with me', so what happened? Go back to 'ignore' please.

Rick,

#51,

And yet this misadministration is going to fight to continue without FISA, all the while doing so against this court order? Who would be the enforcing authority the DOJ?

Thanks

When are the people going to realize that if presidents are allowed to break the law to protect us, there will be nothing to prevent presidents from breaking the law to hurt us?

Well! This legalistic `NSA Match' isn't much `fun' to watch, analyze or fight over. Let the Supreme Court & Constitutional Law Geeks decide (another prediction of mine....with positive result expected for the War on Terror)! This is just Round 1, with lowest points scored, and the opinion of ONE Judge!

Until it gets resolved by SCOTUS, pretty boring stuff!

Re #55: Misadministration, capt? Misadministration? Nay, MALadministration. MAL. Got it?

alan - i did once suggest, to my eternal shame, that you should blow me - sorry! -

conspiracy wackos need some sense 'knocked' into you

cool! you could begin by explaining where is the crash? in the photo of the official crash site? link@53

On AlterNet, commentator Rick Gel offers a scary scenerio for Buchsco's exit strategy from Iraq.

Of course, being as inept as they are, that wouldn't go according to plan either...

MALadministration.

absolutely DB! they should even change their name to malbushco!

Joe and Dick and that Thirty Three Percent

[..]

We have "leaders" in power who claim that the Republican party is the only one that will keep us safe from attack, even though the State Dept. has stopped releasing the totals of international acts of terrorism (something about the number being sky high since Bush took over).

Our leaders will certainly alert us should there be any threats to our security here at home B unless a delay would be politically advantageous to them.

And while our leaders and their Thirty Three Percent will remind us of the American soldiers dying every day in Iraq and Afghanistan to protect our freedoms, this same gang would happily take away or restrict those freedoms and what happened in Britain is just one good reason why, by golly! Of course, the fact that it was British and Pakistani Intelligence that thwarted the latest threat and not the result of Bush & Co.'s antiterrorist network need not be pointed out by anyone, right?

The fact is; the polls, the talk on the street, and now the results in Connecticut prove that the majority of Americans are waking up and are mad as Hell. We are sick to death of being led by those who can offer nothing except fear itself. We are tired of those who claim to represent us as the opposition while continuing to support the same mistakes made over and over again. That second week in August showed just how angry voters have become and just how low and un-American the Republican leadership is.

I have a feeling the next twelve weeks are going to get really nasty.

More HERE

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It might not get as nasty as Jenkins thinks. If they are stealing the elections (and I still believe they are) they only need to get absurd enough to deceive. If they do get very nasty maybe they are not so sure the "fix" will fly?

Either way, the midterms are going to be interesting.

capt

MAL-administration good one on more than one level.

what!? i am outraged that i would say such a thing! do you remember what you said to me that prompted me to say that? i don't either. my apologies alan.

What is it with you people? Don't you remember from one day to the next what you've posted?? Dare I say that one could draw some wary conclusions from that? We all know you're "out there", maybe we just didn't know how far.
All I did was keep showing you how silly your wack sites were. Didn't say a thing to prompt such a remark. I think a fraction of the truth got through your firewall from my posts, and it scared you and you fought back against it by popping off at me. Doesn't justify it though. There's any number of 'pop offs' you could've used instead of to challenge my manhood. Well... that's just the kind of comment you better be able and ready to defend.

Think you can just keep your apology James. How would I know if it was really meant?

Cornuts and all visitors, for something different, here's something (probably) NEVER SEEN on this blog!

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Kinda of a spartan Thank-You message from my pal!

Well hello to you, too, Miss Saladin! micki will no doubt show up sooner or later to remind us of your "gallons of wisdom." That sort of wisdom I can live without.

I referred to Alan's common sense, not to wisdom -- get it right, if you're going to fling gratuitous insults! You of the acte gratuit!

Have a nice day! How's the new grandbaby?

dude i just said i am sorry for the 3rd time now! if you are not going to accept my apology then will suggest that you should blow me! ha ha -

Is Bush an idiot?

[..]

For the past six years George W. Bush has been the target of ridicule from liberal circles. But now, instead of laughing at Democrats ill-directed arrogance, Republicans are quietly joining the left in questioning the President's intellectual prowess.

The biggest knock on Bush's brain is his lack of intellectual curiosity. Former administration officials still close to the White House will tell you Mr. Bush detests dissent, embraces a narrow world view and is intellectually incurious.

Worse for this White House is the fact that George W. Bush has daily smackdowns with the English language and the English language usually wins.

His gaffes are funnier than most SNL skits. But more disturbing are his rambling, disjointed press conferences like the one he held earlier this week.

Friends and foes alike agree that George W. Bush is one political figure who gets worse with age. Look back at his performance as Texas governor and you will see a funny, self-assured public figure who inspires confidence. But these days, the mere opening of Mr. Bush’≥ mouth makes many GOP loyalists shake in their tasseled loafers.

More HERE

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This from Joe Scarborough?

I wonder if the "Bush's brain" is a little inside joke. The piece intended to show how the GOPhers are actually against Dumya so vote for the GOP?

Are Joe and KKkarl pals? Hmmmm

capt

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen."
~ Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955), (attributed)

wow way to go happy!(64) it's always a great feeling helping out those in need isn't it?

c'mon pussboy
You're the big man that will say what's on his mind, remember? Your hiding behind a quote again. haha

Fk all you concpiracy wackos.
hey

"Bush's brain"? He has one? I never suspected...

“Common sense is instinct. Enough of it is genius.”

+++++George Bernard Shaw

The gentlemen, Shaw and Einstein can duke it out.

The following is from Sen. Lieberman's ReElection campaign website. I Should've attached this to my donation `receipt' post @ #64.......IF anybody donates to Sen. Lieberman's campaign as a direct result of seeing this post, I'd appreciate your dropping me an email!
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Welcome to Joe2006.com! We'll be re-launching our full website soon to bring you the latest news and updates from the campaign.

In the meantime, I want to take a moment to thank my supporters and explain to you why I have decided to fight on until November.

I'm staying in this race because I want to keep working for the things that matter to you and help meet the critical challenges facing our state and country.

I've been a leader in the Senate on strengthening our national security, protecting and creating jobs, stopping global warming and finding cures to diseases like cancer and diabetes.

And I'm staying because I want to help end the war in Iraq as quickly and successfully as possible, in a way that brings stability to the Middle East and doesn't leave us even more vulnerable to terrorist attacks.

So much needs to be done, but so little is actually getting done in Washington because our politics have become so partisan and polarized.

I have always followed a different path. My 30 years of experience has been about bringing people together and solving problems.

I am and will always be a proud, progressive, strong-on-defense Democrat. But I do not and will not hesitate to work across party lines when it will get things done for my constituents.

That is what my campaign will be all about building a new politics of unity and purpose and delivering results for the people of Connecticut.

I hope you will join me in this cause, no matter your political persuasion, to secure a brighter future for our state and our country.

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This is kinda fun. It's just as easy to be mean as to be nice, so... I'm enjoying this.

We used to call it foreplay. LMAO
When the doors opened, you knew you was gonna fight or fk.

70
....Fk all you concpiracy wackos.

Posted by: Alan at August 17, 2006 07:02 PM
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I don't know what "Fk" stands for, but I agree w/you 911%!!!!!

Le sens commun n'est pas si commun --Voltaire

Common sense is the measure of the possible; it is composed of experience and prevision; it is calculation applied to life.
--Henri-Frederic Amiel

Citing no one, Scarborough claimed "[s]ome Democrats" have suggested British terror plot "was just some ploy by the Republicans ... to justify their actions in the war on terror"

On the August 11 edition of MSNBC's Scarborough Country, host Joe Scarborough baselessly claimed that "[s]ome Democrats" are "suggesting" that the recently foiled British terror plot "was just some ploy by the Republicans and the president and [British Prime Minister] Tony Blair's government to justify their actions in the war on terror." Scarborough did not cite any examples to back up his claim. In fact, while Democrats have asserted that the plot demonstrates that the Bush administration must do more to prepare the nation against the threat of a terrorist attack and have, as Scarborough himself noted, criticized the administration for "trying to use this terror attack for political purposes," Media Matters for America found* no examples of Democrats questioning the veracity of the terror plot.

Below are some media accounts of Democratic criticism of the Bush administration in the wake of the foiled terror plot:

More HERE

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This is the Joe Scarborough I was thinking of. Does the "Is Bush an idiot" piece seem out of character?

capt

Thanks for that comment Caroline. I'ma leave for now... till later tonight.
See ya

Sure another judge ruled against Bush's spying. The spying still goes on. Internet users, telephone users; you're still on a government database. If this case works its way to the supreme court do you think unitary executive supporters Roberts or Alito and going to rule against Bush. The votes aren't there. As for 2008 being the end of this nightmare. Don't bet the ranch on that. We've had two rigged elections and with practice comes even more proficiency.

i will consider myself to be suitably fk'd!
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so lieberman considers himself to be a progressive democrat?
where does that fit in the all important political position spectrum?
between regular democrat and progressive republican? what, is a progressive democrat like some kind of super-republican? or is it like a diet-republican? ha ha -
still, good on you happy for helping out a fellow human in need!

British terror plot "was just some ploy by the Republicans ... to justify their actions in the war on terror"
--joe scarborough

Was The London Plot Feasible?

Thomas Greene of The Register walks through the steps a terrorist would have to take in order to concoct the necessary amount of the explosive TATP onboard an airplane -- the supposed plot of the suspects apprehended last week in the U.K.

His conclusion: "Certainly, if we can imagine a group of jihadists smuggling the necessary chemicals and equipment on board, and cooking up TATP in the lavatory, then we've passed from the realm of action blockbusters to that of situation comedy."

Thanks to TPM Reader RW.

More HERE

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I think it is way too obvious. Obvious enough to help some of the more skeptical people see how nefarious the leadership[sic] is here and in the UK.

capt

27 "Follow" thread

Wow! you cornnuts agree that cut & run is wrong like Panty! Hey, Happy we are finally making an impact on these trolls!

Posted by: LBH at August 17, 2006 01:55 PM
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Our labor of Corn love! I think a good indicator or our success is these Cornuts' propensity to change their original handles! We Rock!

Got go out & feed that hungry 15-Yr old! Later!

capt @ 55:

I read in an article earlier today (that I cannot now find) that the gov't will appeal the order and request a stay of the order while the appeal is being heard. According to that article, the ACLU has agreed to this stay pending the appeal although the courts were very likely to grant the stay even without ACLU agreement. The practical effect of is that the warrantless surveillance program will continue during the appeal process.

One thing that makes this case important is that the judge did not grant the dismissal based on the 'state secrets' privilege. The courts historically give deference to the gov't regarding state secrets and this deference nearly always results in a win by the gov't when the argument is made. However, the judge in this case ruled that the gov't's state secret arguments were 'disingenuous and without merit.'

Had the gov't prevailed today, the ACLU would have borne the burden of proving that the trial court was in error. Now, the gov't must carry the burden of proving that the trial court was in error. This is task is made even more difficult because the judge found their arguments baseless.

the pessimist: This ruling clearly is no panacea, but it is a start.

Cornuts' propensity to change their original handles
do you have any proof of this alleged changing?

are we supposed to believe that they are not spying because they are not allowed to spy?
-spy on this! #1!

Re #84: RicK, thank you for the careful analysis.

Next question: does Bush have a brain?

Breaking the law has consequences
by Glenn Greenwald

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"And now, a federal court in Michigan -- the first to rule on the legality of the President's NSA program -- just rejected all of the administration's defenses for eavesdropping in violation of FISA, effectively finding that the administration has been engaged in deliberate criminal acts by eavesdropping without judicial approval. And as I documented previously, Hamdan itself independently compels rejection of the administration's only defenses to its violations of FISA. Eavesdropping in violation of FISA is a federal crime, punishable by up to 5 years in prison and a $10,000 fine (50 U.S.C. 1809).

"Thus, judicial decisions are starting to emerge which come close to branding the conduct of Bush officials as criminal. FISA is a criminal law. The administration has been violating that law on purpose, with no good excuse. Government officials who violate the criminal law deserve to be -- and are required to be -- held accountable just like any other citizens who violate the law. That is a basic, and critically important, principle in our system of government. These are not abstract legalistic questions being decided. They amount to rulings that our highest government officials have been systematically breaking the law -- criminal laws -- in numerous ways. And no country which lives under the rule of law can allow that to happen with impunity."

Link Here

NSA eavesdropping program ruled unconstitutional

(CNN) -- A federal judge on Thursday ruled that the U.S. government's domestic eavesdropping program is unconstitutional and ordered it ended immediately.

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said the Bush Administration disagrees with the ruling and has appealed.

"We also believe very strongly that the program is lawful," he said in Washington, adding that the program is "reviewed periodically" by lawyers to determine its effectiveness and ensure lawfulness.

More HERE

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So the guy that is suppose to enforce the law thinks the court is wrong. The AG thinks he can decide what it lawful? Since when?

capt

Rick,

I expected a stay. Still wonder if this MALadministration (h/t DB) will ever respect or obey a court order with which the unitary president does not agree? And if that happens who would be the enforcing authority (hypothetically)?

Hard to expect anything as long as Bush is:

"asserting that he has the power to set aside any statute passed by Congress when it conflicts with his interpretation of the Constitution."

I think Bush will defy any authority other than his. He could care less about a constitutional crisis - at least that is what he says.

capt

ALAN!! You rock! Where have you been all this time?

Poor James Ha and Capt are wagging there tails asking for forgiveness after that lashing! Saladin's still trying to recover. She thought she had the high ground until you showed her the pig slop shes been hiding in!

Friggin great posts! Love em!

Sorry for the distracttion, but does anyone know what happened to the "Newshounds" website? Every time I try to go there, I get "Page cannot be displayed."

Re #92: Steve, is this just today? I've had several sites, yesterday, with the same problem, but not so much today. Might be server upgrades going on. One very well managed site, in the UK, was kind enough to reply with a screen which stated they were doing upgrades and even gave an estimate of when they would be done. Other webmasters are less ept or less kind or both...

I get punished for something James said? Whatever.
micki, what a coincidence that you would show up RIGHT after I wrote that, amazing! Common sense, wisdom, two sides of the same coin. Sorry for the blunder. Baby Areya is doing great, thanks for asking.

http://www.newshounds.us/

Came right up with:

Fox Regular: "Wal-Mart is an Incredibly Wonderful Company"
Reported by Melanie - Thu 6:11 PM
A group of progressives, activists, Democrats, and union leaders recently launched a "2006 Change Wal-Mart, Change America Tour." They are taking a bus trip across America to advocate for decent health care for all Americans and for good paying jobs. Here is their website.

Yesterday Joe Biden spoke at a stop in Iowa and, according to the New York Times, "delivered a 15-minute, blistering attack to warm applause" there.

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Maybe a server down at your ISP or between you and newshounds?

capt

"Baby Areya is doing great"

GREAT name!

And happy to hear all is well.

capt

capt 82, I posted that and poor tims sensibilities were offended, how dare we not acknowledge the determination of the muslamiacs goal to push us all into the ocean, (or blow up all our planes, whichever comes first!)

Alan says gloves off, that must mean his real nature will soon be revealed. He says it is as easy to be mean as it is to be nice, and then uses a sexual analogy, that comparison strikes me as strangely contradictory. I find it a burdensome effort to be mean, so I try to avoid it. But the trolls back him 911%! Good to know. I wonder what the comments would be from certain regulars here if I were to use such insulting and arrogant rhetoric.

Thanks for replies re News Hounds. Today and yesterday, I have had trouble getting there. Will keep trying.

Steve,

Try this for now:

Newshounds

I "Furled" it. It might work but it is an image of the page and will not be updated unless I copy again.

capt

9/11 Neo-Con Hit Piece Explodes Into Controversy
Moseley World Net Daily article spews salacious attacks against Professor Steven Jones as distortions and fallacies are exposed on Alex Jones Show

As the interview commenced, Moseley immediately set about trying to personalize the debate by injecting an emotionally loaded context in saying he had connections with one of the victims, Barbara Olsen.

This crass tactic is also evident in his article in which he states that the 9/11 truth movement, "profane(s) the memory of the 3,000 victims."

If this is the case then why is it that, according to Bill Doyle, representative of the largest coalition of 9/11 families, around half of the family members of the victims themselves also share grave doubts about the official story of 9/11?

Moseley then betrayed his appallingly inept level of research into the claims of 9/11 skeptics when host Alex Jones raised the issue of Operation Northwoods.

JONES: "I asked you yesterday if you had heard of Operation Northwoods and you said you had heard me talk about it but that you didn't know about it - I mean shouldn't you go find out if my claim about an official US government document to carry out 9/11 style attacks - shouldn't you go find out if that exists or do you just decide that doesn't exist?"

MOSELEY: "Well I don't believe it exists."

Moseley clearly states that he doesn't believe Northwoods exists.

Here's a link to the Operation Northwoods documents from the National Security Archive. Here's a link to a report on the Operation Northwoods documents from ABC News. Here's a link to a report on the Operation Northwoods documents from the Baltimore Sun.

The fact that Moseley goes to the delusional lengths of denying the very existence of a plan that was publicly declassified and has been reported on by numerous mainstream media outlets torpedoes his credibility from the very start.

Without a doubt the most distasteful element of Moseley's attack is his claim that Professor Steven Jones, in responding to a question at the American Scholars Symposium conference, "was calling for the violent overthrow of the government."

After carefully analyzing video archives of every one of Steven Jones' appearances at the conference, including round table panel discussions and Jones' own speech, we can find no evidence that Jones made statements even anywhere near approaching this context. At no point does Jones advocate violence of any kind - this is a completely false and potentially damaging allegation. Every video which features Steven Jones can be downloaded at Prison Planet.tv for any readers who seek verification.

The likely explanation for Moseley's statement is that he has attributed statements which are already bloated and distorted - to the wrong person - again underscoring the slapdash ineptitude of his research. In a clip taken from the American Scholars Symposium (watch below) Jim Fetzer, not Steven Jones, responds to a question by opining that there is no gentlemanly solution, which is qualified by Fetzer as meaning a solution within the means of the Constitution, to counter a President who by the very nature of his actions, has erected a dictatorial system and abolished the Constitution. This is a bold stance but it does by no means advocate a violent armed overthrow of the government. And to emphasize, Moseley's study of his subject matter before the publication of his hit piece was so vague that he could not even distinguish between the different people he attacked.
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I was there, he never said anything like that. This is a good article, and along with the recent Bollyn fiasco shows how desperate these people are to shut this down. It isn't working. If Al-CIAda did it, why beat people up, lie and smear to discredit them? It shouldn't be that hard to back up, or is it?

The truth needs no advocate and lies devolve into violence.

That is the way of things.

capt

micki, what a coincidence that you would show up RIGHT after I wrote that, amazing!

Okay, Saladin...serious question. Why is it a coincidence and amazing? Really, I don't get your point -- but you have said this sort of thing in the past about me.

#100 What links? You didn't provide any links.

Where is the justice of political power if it executes the murderer and jails the plunderer, and then itself marches upon neighboring lands, killing thousands and pillaging the very hills?: Kahlil Gibran

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An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it: Mohandas Gandhi

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It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself: Thomas Jefferson

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In the democracy of the dead all men at last are equal. There is neither rank nor station nor prerogative in the republic of the grave: John James Ingalls

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Thanks ICH Newsletter!

Oops...referring to this from #100:

Here's a link to the Operation Northwoods documents from the National Security Archive. Here's a link to a report on the Operation Northwoods documents from ABC News. Here's a link to a report on the Operation Northwoods documents from the Baltimore Sun.

Here's a link to the Operation Northwoods documents from the National Security Archive. Here's a link to a report on the Operation Northwoods documents from ABC News. Here's a link to a report on the Operation Northwoods documents from the Baltimore Sun.

Is that it?

capt

HuffPost --- Liquid or gel tests positive for explosives in Huntington, WV! Airport terminal evacuated. Insane, IMHO.

Call off the dogs! Bomb-sniffing dogs made a mistake yesterday and closed down Seattle Port Authority Terminal at Harbor Island.

The dogs didn't explain their mistake. Or apologize.

qaaqa happens!

Report: UK bomb suitcase found

Airline terror plot suspects stay detained

LONDON, England (CNN) -- British police investigating an alleged plot to bomb trans-Atlantic airline flights are reported to have found a suitcase containing items which could be used to construct a bomb, according to the British Broadcasting Corporation.

The suitcase is reported to have been found in woodlands in High Wycombe, about 50 kilometers (30 miles) north-west of London.

BBC quotes an anonymous police source as saying a suitcase holding "everything you would need to make an improvised device," had been found.

More HERE

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Sounding less believable with each report.

capt

micki, you infer insults where none are intended. You have been away, or at least not posting, for several days and I thought it a coincidence that you showed up right after I wrote my comment, what's the big deal? As for the links, if you had clickd on the link I provided at the top of the post you would have been directed to all the pertaining links and videos, of which there are a plethora. Sorry that I was too lazy to give them one by one here, I thought it easier to direct people to the source, fucked up again I guess.

the terrorist plot to bomb the famous Mackinac bridge turned out to be a false alarm. What a surprise!

Daily Show: fear propaganda targets USA

Ever since the airline terror plots were foiled, the media has been spoon feeding the public special reports of fear, anxiety and suspicion. Thankfully, we have The Daily Show to put it all in perspective.

Ever since the airline terror plots were foiled, the media has been spoon feeding the public special reports of fear, anxiety and suspicion. NOWHERE IS SAFE, NOBODY IS SAFE AND EVERYTHING IS A POTENTIAL WEAPON.

If terrorists need to find a new target, learn how to build a bomb or even breech the United States borders, all they need to do is…turn on CNN, sit back, and watch and learn.

Thankfully, we have The Daily Show to string together a montage of CNN’s finest 'Terror: Target USA' to prove just what a theatre of the absurd their newscasts have become as of late.

Jennnifer Fox is an AlterNet intern.

More HERE

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Jon does offer some perspective. There is a video at the linked piece.

capt

34 Somebody posted under my name at @ 34. I also read where people said other people were posting using language they don't usually use. Probably some right wing teenager with to much time on hand.

Posted on Wed, Aug. 16, 2006
Politicians jousting over terrorism are missing the point, pollsters say
By Ron Hutcheson
McClatchy Newspapers

WRH

Republicans and Democrats are beating each other up on the issue of terrorism in the wake of the alleged London airplane plot, but polls show that most Americans are far more worried about the war in Iraq.
That's bad news for President Bush and his Republican allies because, with congressional elections less than 100 days away, most voters don't think the war was worth it and don't like Bush's handling of it. Pollsters say that any boost the president gets from the alleged plot to blow up trans-Atlantic aircraft isn't likely to alter negative opinions about the war."Iraq is far and away the Number 1 issue. Nothing comes even close," pollster John Zogby said. "It's the elephant in the living room."

Posted Aug 17, 2006 05:59 PM PST
Category: IRAQ

Americans don't like getting lied into wars: they're just a little testy about that, and they well should be.
And what Zogby describes as "the elephant in the room" is probably going to roar and run on election day; hopefully, it will run away from ANY member of Congress who voted for this war.
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OH PLEASE let us be rid of these war mongering psychos!

This JonBenet story is another distraction. If she had been a similarly-aged poor girl with dark skin, we would never had heard a peep.

I just glanced at a story on this -- this caught my eye:

"...Karr will be taken within the week to Colorado, where he will face charges of first-degree murder, kidnapping and child sexual assault, Ann Hurst of the Department of Homeland Security told reporters in Bangkok...."

What does Homeland Security have to do with this?

#100

David Duke once again pops up in one of your posts.

Christopher Bollyn
Christopher Bollyn, writing for the American Free Press, was the source of numerous original stories on the 9/11 coverup. Bollyn -- whose prolific work suggests he is a hard-working and diligent reporter -- was the apparent source of numerous stories including:

That Zim Shipping Company broke its lease to move out of the World Trade Center just one week before the attack.
That Benjamin Chertoff, author of the Popular Mechanics attack piece is the cousin of Michael Chertoff, Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.
That Mossad infiltrated computer networks in the US using the start-up company known as Ptech.
Apparently because of his original reporting, Bollyn's work has been widely cited and copied. Unfortunately, this is also true of a number of hoaxes that Bollyn has promoted -- perhaps unknowingly.

Bollyn wrote an article misconstruing the seismic data from the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, seeding the basement bombs theory.
Bollyn wrote an article misinterpreting WTC 2's rising dust cloud as an explosion in Building 6, starting a hoax that would be exploited by In Plane Site.
Bollyn has been one of the principal proponents of the Pentagon no-jetliner theory.
Bollyn apparently originated the theory that crash of Flight 93 in PA was faked.
The American Free Press
The fact that Bollyn is extensively sourced in 9/11 skeptics' literature, combined with the fact that his employer, the American Free Press, has neo-Nazi associations, gives defenders of the official 9/11 myth effective ammunition with which to attack their critics. Although publications of the American Free Press are generally free of racist, white-supremicist, or anti-Semitic content, its sister publication, The Barnes Review overtly promotes such ideologies. Consider the following facts.

The Barnes Review praises Hitler as deserving of the Nobel Prize
The American Free Press and The Barnes Review share the same address
The American Free Press and The Barnes Review promote each other
Christopher Bollyn has been a guest on David Duke's show a number of times
The American Free Press was founded by Right Wing ideologue Willis Carto

#110 Oh, you acted like you were being stalked or something. Thanks goodness -- for a moment I thought you might be paranoid. I have out of town guests -- and they are out for the afternoon visiting the Western Washington University campus and environs, so I popped onto the blog off and on this afternoon.

Timing.

I have read a little bit on the Jon Bennet thing. I think it is possible the guy confessing might not be much more than that.

Some details do not match (so they say) and the only evidence they have on him (so far) is his confession.

Some people have a specific mental health issue that creates a need to confess.

I think the story is more hype than type. Waiting to hear more. I hope it is the guy. Both for the family and any other potential victims.

capt

LIFE WITH BIG BROTHER
Threat: Cancer teen to be taken by force
16-year-old Virginian: 'I'm not going to receive chemotherapy no matter what'

The father of a Virginia teen seeking an alternative treatment for his cancer says a social worker has threatened to use force to take the boy away from the family for court-ordered chemotherapy.

Jay Cherrix of Chincoteague, Va., is concerned there could be an Elian Gonzalez-style showdown over his 16-year-old son, Abraham, who has already undergone chemotherapy for his Hodgkin's disease to no avail.

Appearing on Sean Hannity's national radio program yesterday, Jay Cherrix said, "When the social-service worker came and interviewed me, I told him how Abraham felt and about how we had met a person who had been cured by this [alternative treatment] and how we were supporting Abraham's decision. I said, 'What will you do with my little boy? Will you take him somewhere and strap him down and put duct tape on his mouth and pump full of this stuff if he doesn't want it?'

"He said, 'No, I will come to your house with a uniformed officer, and I will take your son by force if he resists. And I will take him to somebody who will do that.'

"And I said, 'I don't think I can let you do that.'"

He added there have also been other threats to take Abraham away from the family.

"They told Abraham that if he did not go and have an X-ray, they would put him in a juvenile detention center with drug dealers. They told him that if he did not do that they would put him in a foster home. ... We never thought that people could actually say that to a young fellow like that. We've been surprised by lots of stuff but we have a strong faith and we believe that we'll prevail. We think there will be a judge that will use common sense and compassion and grant a stay on that [mandated chemotherapy] order."

"I can't believe we're gonna live in a society where the government now, through a court order, is gonna send some bureaucrat into your house, take you out in handcuffs, slap you on a gurney and stick some medicine in you because they deem that you've made the wrong decision in life. I can't believe we're actually on the verge of that happening here," said an outraged Hannity. "It's almost like Elian Gonzalez for crying out loud."

On Friday, Judge Jesse Demps of Accomack County Juvenile and Domestic Relations Court ordered Abraham's parents to bring him to Children's Hospital of The King's Daughters in Norfolk by 1 p.m. today and give consent to whatever treatment the hospital recommends.

Judge Demps also found Abraham's parents neglectful, and required them to share custody of the teen with the Accomack County Department of Social Services.

"I'm not going to receive chemotherapy no matter what," Abraham said on "Hannity & Colmes" last night. "This is my body, the body that God gave to me, and in the Bible it says for me to take care of this body. It's my temple. ... If you are not able to do with your body what you want to, then you have no rights whatsoever."
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Amazingly this was posted at World Net Daily. Are they getting the clue now? The govt. is NOT your friend!

#115

Ms. Hurst is the ICE Attaché at the US Embassy Bangkok. ICE would co-ordinate the extradition of any US national.

mp5, the whole point is not Bollyns maybe or maybe not connection to duke, it is the arrest and abuse. You insist on this ridiculous duke response. I couldn't care less about duke, I do care about people being arrested for no reason other than dissent, like Zundel and Irving, notorious anti-semites I'm sure. Maybe we who question the official bushdumb 9/11 crap will soon be hauled off to jail and accused of fraternizing with the enemy. That will make plenty of freedom and free speech loving 'mericans prouder then shit no doubt! Heil the fourth reich!

First time to this site. Read many posts. You guys are fucken nuts, Aren't you?

#121

Just pointing out that there seems to be a pattern. To be fair think about the following sentence in the above piece.

The fact that Bollyn is extensively sourced in 9/11 skeptics' literature, combined with the fact that his employer, the American Free Press, has neo-Nazi associations, gives defenders of the official 9/11 myth effective ammunition with which to attack their critics.

On the same note just about anyone that has been arrested claims to have been arrested for no reason at all.

does Bush have a brain?
not yet...give bush a brain!

Wow...this case is pointing back with both barrels loaded. Bush and co. had made the assumption that they could bully the country into believing that they were above the law. They also thought the terrorism card gave them special privileges. What they were told by Judge Taylor is that they are no different than any citizen they represent. The constitution only works if it is followed. The minute anyone, especially the president, turns his or her back on it there is a tear in the fabric of the democracy Bush pretends to champion. He will appeal and what will the higher courts say? The ruling was pretty straight forward.

I think the Bush administration has spent so many years just working the system and around the system. It didn't occur to them that once they reached the highest office people would put the law first and he would become an equal to everyman. In some ways this thinking made the administration both lazy and bold. It made them reach far beyond what was tolarable. It is truly the constitution or the president. He has given the country that choice. While doing so he placed fear into the equation.

So, the country had to make a choice. Allow fear to guide us or the constitution. Which will it be?

fucken nuts? I didn't say he was crazy. I said he was fuc%in Goofy.

Is this one of those goofy conspiracy sites, or a comedy site? It's hard to tell whether you guys are serious or not. Either way, it's a pretty fucken weird site.

JC you guys. I'm reading this thread and just laughing. I've never ever thought I'd witness a brawl on a blog. Way to go. You have achieved the impossible.

THREE CHEERS!!!!!!

I'm going to stay in the corner if you don't mind.

comment finds it fucken nuts but stays around anyway. fucken nuts.

I saw David Corn on a talk show one time, and granted, he's kind of a goofy fruit loop, but I didn't get the impression he was a conspiracy nut. From the sounds of his site, he must be even nuttier than he sounded on TV.

Corn's prediction on the previous thread was dead on.

The news tonight was Karr and JonBenet Ramsey ALL NIGHT LONG.

Even when they broke away from telling about Karr's first marriage to a minor, and second marriage to a minor, and arrest for possession of child pornography, and five years of international travel as a fugitive relesed on bail. . . they was no war coverage; instead it was liquid explosive in an airport, blaa blaa blaa and again, ZERO iraq war coverage.

#130
a goofy fruit loop? And you are....? If you are going to insult the host as least leave a name to that he can address you properly.

goofy fruit loop huh. He graduated Summa Cum Laude from Brown University.

comment has not talked about a single political topic, instead he comments on others here and david corn. does he read corn's posts and comment? no. Instead he tells us his impression of corn from watching him on TV.

i think comment wants to talk about things he watches on TV. coockie monster anyone?

Tramm Hudson Destroys Himself

Tramm Hudson is the current front runner in the GOP primary in FL-13, the Congressional District being vacated by Katherine Harris. RedState has happened upon the clip below of Tramm talking to a group of people. His words will, justifiably, mostly likely destroy his campaign and sink his chances of victory.
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In the video clip he explains how blacks can't swim.
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If you are just jumping in, you should be aware that a number of black leaders have come out in support of Mr. Hudson. Below is just a snippet of support:

"I have known Tramm Hudson for many years and I have seen the entire video of his remarks to the Christian Coalition. I do not consider what he said to be a racist remark. Tramm has apologized to me in person, although I don't think one is necessary, but I accept his apology without reservation. He is a good, decent, family man with a good heart"
- Trevor Harvey, President NAACP of Sarasota County

"I've known Tramm Hudson for over 5 years, I lead an interracial Bible study that Tramm has participated in these past 5 years. I know Tramm and I know Tramm is a good, honest man who treats everyone fairly. I have seen Tramm's entire statement and believe he was attempting to express something that just came out wrong. I accept his apology and value his friendship."
- Pastor Kelvin Lumpkin - Abundant Life Ministries
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It must be a full moon.

I am sticking around reading your posts and laughing my ass off. When I saw David Corn on that talk show, as I said, he seemed like a pretty goofy fruit loop. It was hard to tell if he was serious or a comic along the lines of The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. I was just wondering if you guys are a comedy troop. If not, maybe it is something you should think about. You guys crack me up. You put out some pretty funny shit.

#134
I miss Kermit the frog. I think we could use Kermit right now.

#136
Read between the lines.

no comment

133 - He graduated Summa Cum Laude from Brown University.

Isn't Brown University, where you can pull a 4.0 if you write, "I hate America", 100 times on the black board?