August 05, 2006Fret on Your Own (But Read About the Neocons)Not only am I still on vacation (sort of); I now have to review the galleys of my forthcoming book within the next few days. So please forgive the lack of blogging on my part and fret among yourselves in the comment section below. But I did--thanks to a friend--see a rather interesting piece in Haaretz on Friday: a plea from an Israeli to other Israelis to break with the neocons of the United States. In this piece, Daniel Levy, who helped negotiate the Oslo agreement, essentially argues that Washington's neocons are bad for the Jews (of Israel). Two key paragraphs: Finding themselves somewhat bogged down in the Iraqi quagmire, the neoconservatives are reveling in the latest crisis, displaying their customary hubris in re-seizing the initiative. The U.S. press and blogosphere is awash with neocon-inspired calls for indefinite shooting, no talking and extension of hostilities to Syria and Iran, with Gingrich calling this a third world war to "defend civilization." Disentangling Israeli interests from the rubble of neocon "creative destruction" in the Middle East has become an urgent challenge for Israeli policy-makers. An America that seeks to reshape the region through an unsophisticated mixture of bombs and ballots, devoid of local contextual understanding, alliance-building or redressing of grievances, ultimately undermines both itself and Israel. The sight this week of Secretary of State Rice homeward bound, unable to touch down in any Arab capital, should have a sobering effect in Washington and Jerusalem. Read the rest here. Posted by David Corn at August 5, 2006 12:40 AM |
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If the NSA is providing intelligence for Israel regarding arms shipments from Syria. How can we be an impartial broker for peace?
Olberman had a guest on tonight from the intelligence community who suggested Chalabi was working for the Iranians when Bush bought the crap he was selling lock, stock and barrell. Can you imagine if the neocons were rolled by an Iranian spy. That'd do it. Had enough?
Posted by: O'Reilly at August 5, 2006 12:53 AM
hey kickback cornbud! oh, stock up on doritos they are a staple food!
Posted by: spy on this! at August 5, 2006 12:57 AM
maybe that's the very same arms shipment from syria that used to be the WMD in iraq
Posted by: spy on this! at August 5, 2006 12:59 AM
don't miss the TERRORISM AWARDS!
Posted by: spy on this! at August 5, 2006 01:01 AM
I would feel better if I did not believe that Israel was not emulating Nazi America. I believe that Bush and Olmert have come to an agreement that the two of them will make and keep the Middle East unstable for decades ahead.
Posted by: Gerald at August 5, 2006 01:13 AM
Both Israel and Nazi America will make and leave the Middle East a piece of rubble.
Posted by: Gerald at August 5, 2006 01:17 AM
Who is going to rebuild the region? No one!!!
Posted by: Gerald at August 5, 2006 01:18 AM
Gingrich is calling this the third world war to defend civilization. Are the Nazi states of Amreica, Great Britain, and Israel behaving as civilized states or just murdering goons and thugs?
Posted by: Gerald at August 5, 2006 01:23 AM
"Fret on Your Own"
Is David worried about the middle east or is this commentary on our posts from the last thread? I think its the former.
What, me worry?
AE Neuman
Posted by: O'Reilly at August 5, 2006 01:33 AM
Spy on this!
I will try to make this simple, as I know when you try to think you get a headache. Get some aspirin ready and we will start.
As I said I will try to make this as simple for you as possible. The question will require only a yes or no answer.
Terrorists fire 200 rockets a day randomly into civilian populated areas with the intention of killing as many of anyone they can reach.
In order to protect their civilians, the victim countryâs military tries to avoid killing civilians while actually hunting down the terrorist killers who are not only firing those 200 rockets a day randomly into civilian areas with the intention of killing as many of anyone they can reach, but are also holding their own civilians in front of them as shields.
Are the terrorist killers who are not only firing those 200 rockets a day randomly into civilian areas with the intention of killing as many of anyone they can reach, but are also holding their own civilians in front of them as shields, the bad guys?
Posted by: ' at August 5, 2006 01:38 AM
it could be made much simpler than that:
bush = good
terror = bad
you're either with us or you're against us
Posted by: spy on this! at August 5, 2006 01:44 AM
U.S. Threatens Suit if Maine Probes Verizon Ties to NSA
The Bush administration is threatening to sue if Maine regulators decide to investigate whether Verizon Communications illegally turned over customer information to the National Security Agency.
Verizon customers in Maine have asked the state's Public Utilities Commission to investigate whether the telecom giant violated privacy laws by cooperating with a domestic surveillance program. The PUC is expected to decide Monday whether to open such a probe.
In a July 28 letter to the PUC, the U.S. Department of Justice cites national security as a key reason for its opposition to a state investigation. The seven-page letter suggests a lawsuit is likely if Maine regulators decide to investigate.
"We sincerely hope that, in light of governing law and the national security concerns implicated by the requests for information, you will decline to open an investigation and close these proceedings, thereby avoiding litigation over the matter," the letter reads.
The Justice Department and Verizon both declined to comment on the letter Thursday.
The Justice Department's stance drew criticism from Maine groups that favor an investigation. They believe that if state secrets are at risk, precautions can be taken to ensure they aren't revealed.
"The federal Department of Justice is trying to kill the proceeding even before it begins, and I don't think that's proper," said Wayne Jortner, senior counsel in the Maine Public Advocate's Office, which represents citizens in cases involving public utilities.
More HERE
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"The Argument from Intimidation is a confession of intellectual impotence." ~ Ayn Rand (1905 - 1982), The Virtue of Selfishness, 1964
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 01:46 AM
Better yet, as I know you probably now have a headache, simply do not respond if the answer is no. If on the other hand your answer is YES, Respond with any kind of answer, in other words, if your answer is yes, type anything, even your usual nonsensical crap.
Posted by: ' at August 5, 2006 01:47 AM
spy on this!
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it could be made much simpler than that:
bush = good
terror = bad
you're either with us or you're against us
YOU ARE CORRECT. EXCELLENT ANSWER, HOWEVER YOU AVOIDED MY QUESTION, MUCH LIKE A LIBERAL POLITICIAN ON AN INTERVIEW.
As you can see in my post above I gave you another chance to answer my question. It should be even more simple than the first time.
Posted by: ' at August 5, 2006 01:55 AM
oh it's multiple choice?
enough with the trick questions.
what if the democrats stage a false-flag terror action on us in order to make the republicans look bad?
Posted by: spy on this! at August 5, 2006 01:58 AM
They already did on 9/11
Posted by: ' at August 5, 2006 02:01 AM
I hear many of the cornbloggers say it was an inside job ... by powerful DNC members and Liberal politicians.
Posted by: ' at August 5, 2006 02:04 AM
ya well the next one wont be as surprising will it?
what is your handle there - an apostrophe?
Posted by: spy on this! at August 5, 2006 02:05 AM
18 spy
ya well the next one wont be as surprising will it?
I have no doubt that people who think like you and Tim McVeigh enjoy that kind of thing.
Posted by: ' at August 5, 2006 02:11 AM
Lieberman Keeps Getting Classier
Ok, so this is instructive, so bear with me for a bit while I walk through one particular person who seemed to be spearheading he Lieberman charge at the cheeseburger joint yesterday. The Record-Journal story pointed out that the main guy harrassing Ned was named Richard Goodstein.
"It was supposed to be a laid-back event and (they) ruined it." "We're just using our right. We're just exercising our rights to enjoy a burger," said Lieberman supporter Alex Hoffman of Boston. Supporters of each candidate debated outside on the sidewalk while many Lieberman supporters continued to badger Lamont, who acknowledged most questions. Richard Goodstein, one of the most vocal Lieberman supporters, repeatedly shouted, "Are you a Bill Clinton Democrat or an Al Sharpton Democrat?" Lamont calmly said he supported both.
Is this the same Richard Goodstein who gave Lieberman $1500 for his 2004 Presidential run? Because that Goodstein is a lobbyist in DC for the chemical and health supplies industry.
More HERE
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Stick a fork in Joe he is done. What a sleazy thing to do, eh?
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 02:12 AM
Iraqi civil war has already begun, U.S. troops say
BAGHDAD, Iraq - While American politicians and generals in Washington debate the possibility of civil war in Iraq, many U.S. officers and enlisted men who patrol Baghdad say it has already begun.
Army troops in and around the capital interviewed in the last week cite a long list of evidence that the center of the nation is coming undone: Villages have been abandoned by Sunni and Shiite Muslims; Sunni insurgents have killed thousands of Shiites in car bombings and assassinations; Shiite militia death squads have tortured and killed hundreds, if not thousands, of Sunnis; and when night falls, neighborhoods become open battlegrounds.
"There's one street that's the dividing line. They shoot mortars across the line and abduct people back and forth," said 1st Lt. Brian Johnson, a 4th Infantry Division platoon leader from Houston. Johnson, 24, was describing the nightly violence that pits Sunni gunmen from Baghdad's Ghazaliyah neighborhood against Shiite gunmen from the nearby Shula district.
As he spoke, the sights and sounds of battle grew: first, the rat-a-tat-tat of fire from AK-47 assault rifles, then the heavier bursts of PKC machine guns, and finally the booms of mortar rounds crisscrossing the night sky and crashing down onto houses and roads.
More HERE
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Why would anyone ignore our troops? Makes no sense to me. The troops are the only people that DO know what is happening on the ground. I take what they say seriously.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 02:19 AM
way to turn it around on me there apostrophe.
you are the winner in this, the battle of wits!
oh how i wish that i had undertaken your challenge @10 - hindsight is 20/20!
Posted by: spy on this! at August 5, 2006 02:22 AM
spy 15
oh it's multiple choice?
By the way, congratulations on answering yes to the question:
Are the terrorist killers who are not only firing those 200 rockets a day randomly into civilian areas with the intention of killing as many of anyone they can reach, but are also holding their own civilians in front of them as shields, the bad guys?
I realize you have a headache from actually thinking for the first time ever, so you deserve the congrats. Since you knew up front, any response was a yes answer to the question, I am glad to see you finally realize Israel is completely in the right for doing what they are now doing.
Posted by: ' at August 5, 2006 02:29 AM
Iraqi civil war has already begun, U.S. troops say
so is it north v south? blue v grey? how will the iraqis know who is who without official uniforms?
someone should open up a terrormart there, it would make a killing!
pun intended.
roadside terrorcarts - get your red armbands here! bullets! DU and regular!
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Juba the sniper may be israeli
Posted by: spy on this! at August 5, 2006 02:32 AM
so it WAS a trick question, eh apostrophe?
wow that's twice now you've played me the fool -
hey we should stage a broadway show:
"TERROR! the musical"
where's all those limeric morons when you need one?
Posted by: spy on this! at August 5, 2006 02:36 AM
22 spy
way to turn it around on me there apostrophe.
you are the winner in this, the battle of wits!
It was not had to beat you in the battle of wits. I take no pride in it since you are playing with only half a deck. I think they call those like you a half wit. You did OK for a half wit with half a deck.
Posted by: ' at August 5, 2006 02:38 AM
It's getting late. We can play again tomorrow. I got to go.
Ga-nite
'
Posted by: ' at August 5, 2006 02:43 AM
oh but you should! you should pat yourself on the back - go ahead no one will know
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Simulated nuclear explosion planned in Hawaii for Aug 14-16
Posted by: spy on this! at August 5, 2006 02:44 AM
' = factchecker = 1/4 deck wit
how's your bunghole bunghole?
Posted by: HBL at August 5, 2006 02:48 AM
I'll come get you tomorrow afternoon.
you know how it is done.
Knock, knock knock .... hello Mrs. on this! ...
can spy come out and play?
Posted by: ' at August 5, 2006 02:50 AM
ya i'll recognize your apostrophe thanx for the warning make sure to bring the limerick guys so we can get started on our broadway production
Posted by: spy on this! at August 5, 2006 02:54 AM
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Posted by: HBL at August 5, 2006 03:12 AM
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Posted by: spy on this! at August 5, 2006 03:12 AM
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Posted by: HBL at August 5, 2006 03:14 AM
* Diana voted to require prison inmates to work without pay in the community to provide restitution for their crimes, and she has voted against giving cable TV to prison inmates.
Posted by: HBL at August 5, 2006 03:15 AM
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As a Washington County Commissioner I have steadily fought for lower taxes, lower government spending and gave a strong voice to our values in local government. Now I want to take the fight to Washington, and replace John Murtha who has lost his way after 32 years in Congress. As a Republican, I will work with both parties to cut through the partisan gridlock that is hurting our country.
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Posted by: HBL at August 5, 2006 03:21 AM
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Posted by: Carrie at August 5, 2006 03:24 AM
Weeks of bombing leave nation in ruins
Cambanis and Fil | Boston Globe | August 5, 2006
TYRE, Lebanon -- Three-and-a-half weeks of war have undone Lebanon's renaissance.
The human toll has been catastrophic enough, with more than 900 Lebanese killed and 913,000 displaced, at the government's last count.
But Israel's bombing campaign has also reduced much of the nation's infrastructure to a shambles, setting back painstaking and costly reconstruction that had finally put Lebanon on a prosperous path after decades of civil war and economic stagnation. Bridges, seaports, fuel depots, and the nation's airports and ports, border crossings, and all the major national highways have been attacked, causing more than $2 billion in damage.
In the latest blow, Israeli warplanes yesterday destroyed four key bridges on the country's last major land route to Syria, raising a new obstacle to aid efforts and adding to the rebuilding burden.
``If there is a definitive solution to the crisis, it will take two to three years to get back to where we were on July 12," the day the war began, said Marwan Mikhael, an adviser to Lebanon's minister of economy and trade.
Lebanon's prime minister, Fuad Saniora, said at an Islamic conference in Malaysia on Thursday that Israel's offensive on Lebanon ``is taking an enormous toll on human life and infrastructure, and has totally ravaged our country and shattered our economy."
Posted by: Carrie at August 5, 2006 03:27 AM
what a dreamboat 39!
Posted by: spy on this! at August 5, 2006 03:47 AM
THIS JUST IN!
Tim McVeigh was Murtha's illegitimate love-child!
hating america all in the family like father like son
Posted by: spy on this! at August 5, 2006 04:12 AM
American Soldiers
2,908 American soldiers have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan for Bush and his lies.
18,500+ American soldiers have been maimed in Iraq and Afghanistan for Bush and his evil lies.
55,000+ of the 140,000 American soldiers are suffering from PTSD. Stress disorder has increased and the percentage is now around 40%.
Over 350,000+ Iraqis have been killed in Iraq since Bush declared shock and awe bombings on March 19, 2003.
Contamination from depleted uranium may have affected 125,000+ American soldiers and several million Iraqis.
Are you feeling more safe and secure with Bush in the WH and Cheney as his chief hatchet man overseeing Nazi America and her citizens?
Our military men and women are used as cannon fodder for a terrorist Nazi American government.
Our enemies are innovative and resourceful and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, AND NEITHER DO WE. George W. Bush, August 5, 2005
Rigged elections doom American democracy. American soldiers are being killed and maimed TO PROMOTE A NAZI AMERICAN STATE.
Henry Kissinger says that military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy. Does this mean our American soldiers are only cannon fodder to be murdered and maimed through our evil foreign policies and practices?
Nazi America is a mirror image of Hitler Bush.
Nazi Americans continually justify sin.
Nazi Americans are accomplices with Bush for his murders and war crimes.
The Bush Regime's war on terror has defeated truth and the constitutional protections of liberty in the United States. No conceivable number of Muslim terrorists could inflict comparable damage on America.
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."
~ Steven Weinberg (1933 - ) quoted in The New York Times, April 20, 1999
"What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?" ~ Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), "Non-Violence in Peace and War"
"It is characteristic of the military mentality that nonhuman factors (atom bombs, strategic bases, weapons of all sorts, the possession of raw materials, etc) are held essential, while the human being, his desires, and thoughts - in short, the psychological factors - are considered as unimportant and secondary...The individual is degraded...to "human materiel".
~ Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)
Posted by: Gerald at August 5, 2006 08:22 AM
"He who joyfully marches to music rank and file, has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be a part of so base an action. It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder."
~ Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)
Posted by: Gerald at August 5, 2006 08:27 AM
The Daily Star, Lebanon
Shades of Iraq as Fools Rush In
EDITORIAL
August 5, 2006
An injured man is rushed away from an area where
Already the siege of Lebanon, which has been billed as another battle in the "war on terrorism," seems reminiscent of the war on Iraq, where a foreign army marched in with no concrete plan to restore peace and stability. Instead of having a basis in careful planning, the war on Lebanon seems to be built upon the grandiose schemes outlined in 1996 by a group of U.S. foreign policy hawks in a paper titled A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm . That strategy paper advocated the abandonment of the Arab-Israeli peace process and overthrowing regional regimes, including that of Saddam Hussein. Following this line of thinking, the current war-mongering U.S. administration has made a clean break from the honorable American tradition of promoting peace and has openly embraced the path of destruction.
Yet this path, which has led to a horrendous situation in Iraq, in no way serves American or Israeli interests, nor can it achieve peace and stability. After 23 days of war, the Israeli Army has gained little ground, nor has it reduced the capacity of Hezbullah to launch attacks on the Jewish state. And even if Israel manages to hurt Hezbullah, there is no forseeable way of defeating them. Much like the anti-occupation insurgents in Iraq, all Hezbullah needs to do is survive - potentially for decades - and keep inflicting pain on their Israeli occupiers until they are forced to leave in humiliation.
Israel's attacks on Lebanon satisfy nothing other than an insatiable appetite for destruction - that of neoconservatives and militants alike. Each day of the war propels moderates to the extreme and pushes possible solutions further and further out of reach. And far from crushing any enemies, the war is quickly turning the entire Middle East into a cauldron of anti-American and anti-Israeli militancy.
Every rational person's objective ought to be securing a lasting peace - a goal that cannot be achieved through warfare. Peace must be pursued on the basis of international law and the implementation of all U.N. resolutions, not on the basis of wanton destruction. The Israelis cannot afford another humiliating defeat in Lebanon, and they ought to be looking for a quick way out of the quagmire they have entered. Their best exit strategy, given that a total victory is unachievable, is to pursue the path of international law. Only then will the logic of peace and stability triumph over that of war and terror.
"I'd like to stress this by saying that the blood of the women and children in Qana and the blood of all the elderly and the innocent civilians that has been spilled in Lebanon stains the faces of Bush, Condoleezza Rice, Rumsfeld, and Cheney."
Hezbullah Secretary-General Nasrallah
Posted by: Gerald at August 5, 2006 08:43 AM
Instead of having a basis in careful planning, the war on Lebanon seems to be built upon the grandiose schemes outlined in 1996 by a group of U.S. foreign policy hawks in a paper titled A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm . That strategy paper advocated the abandonment of the Arab-Israeli peace process and overthrowing regional regimes, including that of Saddam Hussein. Following this line of thinking, the current war-mongering U.S. administration has made a clean break from the honorable American tradition of promoting peace and has openly embraced the path of destruction.
Posted by: Gerald at August 5, 2006 08:47 AM
If you will look carefully, the current warmongering U.S administration has made a clean break from the honorable American tradition of promoting peace and has openly embraced the path of destruction.
Yes, Nazi America is not an honorable nation. It is a nation of murderers and war criminals.
Posted by: Gerald at August 5, 2006 08:53 AM
Our Nazi American path of destruction has not made Nazi Americans feel safer.
Posted by: Gerald at August 5, 2006 08:55 AM
Not to worry gerald, the US is in line for a real let down in living standards soon. It is going to be hard on some and easier on others, but it is all going to end. So for the paid trolls here and their blather against rational thinking and intelligent discourse, enjoy your moment soon you will be forgotten and swept into the dustbin of history. Only a couple of years left and then the real story of what has been perpetrated will come out, the trolls are just in it for the money. You can buy them for a pittance and get what you pay for. Noise machines for the oligarchy, makes sense if you look at it like that. Not one sensible utterance among them. Terrorists firing rockets, but zionists defending their right to kill? Please that won't hold water in a real discussion. Usually I don't debate mental defectives so I won't start this one either. They need to get back to high school soon, and or enlist to fight in their fuerhers war on terra. Asshats!!
Posted by: What the F**k at August 5, 2006 09:24 AM
WTF, it is apparent that high school is not benefitting them at all.
Posted by: Saladin at August 5, 2006 09:52 AM
Hizbulla rockets cannot be fired from buildings (ie the one bombed in Qana)Author
Tom Clonan - The Irish Times
Date Created
02 Aug 2006
IDF spokespeople are maintaining that Hizbullah had been mounting missile attacks on Israeli territory from Qana in recent days. The IDF has claimed it targeted the three-storey house in Qana at 1.30am local time in the belief it contained a Hizbullah "asset".
Any investigation into the targeting of this house will have to consider precisely what kind of Hizbullah "asset" could possibly have been hidden in a modest, low-rise building among the narrow streets of a village such as Qana.
The type of missiles being fired by Hizbullah at Israeli cities cannot be fired from within houses, mosques, hospitals or even UN facilities as has been suggested by the IDF. Due to the massive "back-blast" caused by the rocket launchers of these missiles, they can only be fired from open ground. To fire them from within a building would result in the instant death of the missile crew and probable destruction of the missile before launch. Most of the missiles are truck-mounted and are fired - on open ground - from the backs of flat-bedded trucks or larger four-wheel-drive vehicles.
When fired, these missiles generate an enormous flare of light, heat and sound energy - a heat and light signature which is readily detected by IDF target-acquisition systems. Accurate retaliatory fire can be directed at Hizbullah launch sites by IDF aircraft and ground artillery in seconds. Such a reaction would be considered by international military norms to be proportionate and within the general "rules of engagement".
In these circumstances, having fired their missiles, Hizbullah tends to disperse as rapidly as possible. It is unlikely that a flat-bedded truck with a multilaunch rocket-system mounted on it could be easily and rapidly hidden in a village as small as Qana. Nor is it likely that such a truck-mounted weapon or four-wheel-drive vehicle could easily be hidden in a house such as the one targeted by the IDF yesterday.
The pattern and circumstances of the attack are sinister. With no telltale scorch marks from a Hizbullah missile launch visible near the destroyed house, and with no Hizbullah fighters among the dead and injured, the question remains as to what kind of "asset" the IDF could credibly allege to have been contained within the building.
The timing of the attack, taking place as it did during a period of relative calm and not in the immediate aftermath of a Hizbullah missile launch, speaks of a punitive strike designed simply to kill members of the Shia community from which Hizbullah is drawn and receives its moral support. The targeting of unarmed Shia women and children would represent a deliberate targeting of innocent civilians for retaliatory or punitive purposes, and may well constitute a war crime.
Tom Clonan is The Irish Times security analyst.
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They have plenty of reason to pulverize Lebanon, it is flowing through the south, it's wet and necessary for life.
Posted by: Saladin at August 5, 2006 10:02 AM
Laying Out
The Qana Calculation
Horrific Bombing
Sows Death And Rage
Rana El-Khatib
The damage to the fragile environment here is unimaginable. Most days, our proud capital city, Beirut, is engulfed in a haze--a mixture of dust from the rubble and massive infrastructure damage, fires that burn endlessly and from the bombs themselves. Three weeks ago Beirut's streets were thronged with visitors from all ends of the Earth. Today, the tourists have fled, and everywhere I turn, it seems, people are coughing or complaining of headaches. Every living creature is affected.
Despite Israel's claims that arms used in Lebanon do not breach international norms, Lebanese President Emile Lahoud has accused Israel of dropping white phosphorus explosives on cities in the south. The Environmental Protection Agency has listed white phosphorus as a hazardous air pollutant. The Geneva Conventions ban white phosphorus against civilians. However, in southern Lebanon, many victims have been treated for severe burns.
Anti-personnel cluster bombs have also been used against us. Cluster bombs are designed to inflict maximum damage on human beings by spraying smaller bomblets over a wide area. These can explode long after they are fired. These lethal gifts will litter our land for years to come, endangering farmers, children, animals--any living thing that, one day, fortune steers the wrong way. There is nothing selective or smart about such terrible weapons.
Lebanon's shoreline is now covered in thick black oil. An estimated 10,000 tons of heavy fuel oil have spilled into the Mediterranean Sea along our coast. The marine ecosystem is slowly suffocating under the sludge that is creeping down the coastline.
Young forests have gone up in flames. The damage to the agriculturally fertile areas of the Bekaa Valley and the South is immeasurable. Three of Lebanon's primary fuel reservoirs were hit by Israeli rockets, creating massive plumes of thick, noxious smoke that stood still for days under their own weight and mass. The cloud cover and stench are almost unbearable.
Everything those of us in Lebanon's environmental movement have striven so hard to achieve has unraveled in just two weeks. We are helpless to prevent this mutilation of our physical environment.
Nothing is unaffected by this war. Innocent people are dead, wounded and made refugees in their own country.
Our land has suffered irreparable harm. And still the airplanes invade our skies, their bombs pummeling us without relief.
How is bombing a country senseless--devastating industries and homes and people and the environment--going to bring us closer to peace? What will quell the rage that is building on the Arab streets? And what of the water Jesus turned to wine in Qana--that has now turned into blood?
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God help Israel if they are made to reap what they have sown.
Posted by: Saladin at August 5, 2006 10:15 AM
I know we all feel better now that the vast, vast majority of Americans feel much safer now than the did just six years ago.
Practically all American citizens, with the very small exception of loonies on the far right and left fringes, feel the President's actions of confronting terrorism through out the middle east, rather than cowardly turning away or
cutting / running / surrendering, played a major role in making America as safe as is literally possible in these times.
With Great men like President Bush and VP Cheney at the helm, Americans now enjoy, and will continue to enjoy into the future, the absolute safety and security we could never feel, and have never felt, or gotten, under any Liberal administration, ever.
Thank you President Bush, from a grateful nation. You are the best. Keep up the excellent work.
Posted by: ed at August 5, 2006 12:50 PM
Rallies for and against Murtha held in Johnstown
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The pro-Murtha demonstration, hastily assembled to counter the news conference called by his critics in a group called Veterans for the Truth, drew a crowd of between 150 and 200, who stood under a sweltering sun listening to a series of speakers praise the hometown lawmaker.
Mr. Cleland, a triple amputee from wounds received in Vietnam, charged that the Bush administration had targeted Mr. Murtha because of his critique of the war. He said they and their allies were using tactics reminiscent of the attacks against Sen. John McCain in the 2000 Republican primary in South Carolina, Sen. John Kerry in the last presidential election and Mr. Cleland himself in his 2002 Senate re-election defeat.
"We're not going to let them Swift Boat Jack Murtha,'' he said. "Jack Murtha is right and the president is wrong and we're not going to let them assassinate Jack Murtha's character.''
The stagecraft of the Democratic event was calculated to rebut the question from some critics about Mr. Murtha's patriotism. The speakers' roster was dominated by Iraq and Vietnam veterans. Eighteen large flags stirred behind them while members of the crowd held dozens more miniature flags along with their bottles of water.
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Some real support for an American character.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 01:01 PM
On The Alan Colmes [Radio] Show the other night, Gleen Greenwald from Unclaimed Territory and Mark S. Zaid, the attorney for the Marine suing Cong. Murtha for defamation, debated the lawsuit. Greenwald concluded and alleged that the suit was politically motivated. Zaid responded that it wasn't and that he would add anyone, Dem. or Rep. who defamed his client. Link Here
Rep. Kline of Minnesota has now been threatened with being named a defendant if he does not apologize and has already entered into confidential negotiations with Plaintiff to settle this matter. Link Here
According to GGreenwald:
"We will see whether the army of warmongering commentators who used the lawsuit to attack -- yet again -- the character and integrity of Congressman Murtha will be anywhere near as fair-minded by reporting that one of their comrades, Congressman Kline, engaged in exactly the same conduct, at least according to the Haditha Marine whom they glorified on Thursday. Or maybe it will start to occur to some of these computer-based military heroes that the reason that former Marines like Murtha and Kline are making the statements they are making about Haditha is because they are actually concerned about the devastating impact which this war is having on the American military institutions to which they devoted so much of their adult lives." Repeat of previous link here.
Posted by: RicK at August 5, 2006 01:07 PM
Liberals And The Left
Linda Milazzo: 'I have no government. I'm a disenfranchised American.'
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Linda Milazzo
I do not kill babies. I do not kill children. I do not condone ANY circumstance that ends the life of a child or brings harm to innocents downed in the cross hairs of adult perversion. There is NO circumstance whatsoever that legitimizes the murder of children. The term "collateral damage" ascribed to dead children or to the shredded bodies of living children is hideous.
The rite of passage from childhood to adulthood relinquishes the right to such irresponsibility. The whole process of maturation teaches the protection of children at all costs. Animals, both wild and domestic, abide by these instincts unconditionally. It is the aberrant adult dog who kills a puppy. And on the rare occasion such anomaly occurs, it confounds attendant humans due to the sheer unnaturalness of the act.
Our expectation for the compassion of canines transcends like expectations we hold for ourselves.
In the current debacle between Israel and Hezbollah, with the mounting deaths of Lebanese children, it is unconscionable for Israel to justify murdering these children by labeling them embeds of Hezbollah. One should convulse in shame at the insidiousness of such a declaration. To publicly declare the right to kill a child using proximity as exoneration of guilt, forfeits any claim to humanity. To willingly betray the life of a child, betrays every principal learned during the "normal" ascendancy from child to adult.
To these self-righteous ideologues I say: MAY YOU ENVISION FOR YOUR LIFETIMES THE FACES OF EVERY INFANT AND CHILD YOU HAVE SLAIN FOR YOUR CAUSE! What a pernicious badge of inhumanity.
Sadly, this badge of inhumanity isn't only worn by Israel who slays the children of Lebanon. Or by the Hezbollah who slay the children of Israel. It is worn by the Sudanese, who willingly decimate the children of Darfur. It is worn by the Congolese soldiers who savage the children of Congo. It was worn a dozen years earlier in Rwanda, when willing Hutus murdered hundreds of thousands of Tutsi children in a span of 100 days. The same badge of inhumanity was worn in Bosnia by the Serbs who murdered Muslim children, by the Turks who murdered Armenian children, by the Nazis who murdered Jewish children, and on and on and on.
Throughout the history of un-civilization, the badge of inhumanity has been worn by one genocidal ideology after another.
Shamefully, this very same badge of inhumanity is also worn by the United States, where I live. Where the Government's decision to willingly overtake the nation of Iraq has triggered the murders of tens of thousands of children. And where the ideological refusal to support a ceasefire between Lebanon and Israel willingly adds to the murders of Lebanese and Israeli children each and every day.
Even though Hezbollah has stated its willingness to honor a ceasefire with Israel, Mr. Bush, along with his former incompetent National Security Advisor and current incompetent Secretary of State, Condoleeza Rice, believes Israel has the right to pursue its arbitrary barrage on Lebanon, with no neighborhood, no apartment building, no hospital, no school, no market, removed from its artillery sights.
As a resident of the United States, I am by default, in the eyes of the world, a presumed willing supporter of the murders of Lebanese and Israeli children. The President of this nation and members of both Houses of Congress overwhelmingly endorse the continued military assault by Israel upon Lebanon, which indiscriminately kills more children every day. Just as Israelis presume the people of Lebanon endorse Hezbollah when they share the same region, the world will presume I endorse Mr. Bush when we share the same nation.
More egregiously, just as Israelis and Hezbollah sacrifice each other's children for the 'crime' of shared terrain, so one day may America's children be sacrificed for sharing terrain with the world's most undeniably hated man, George W. Bush.
Horrifying, but not unlikely, if Bush is allowed to stay on.
As the daughter of a Jewish American mother and Italian American father, a second generation American living in the United States, I am bound by the laws of this nation, governed by its regulatory agencies, and represented to the world by its elected officials. But when the beliefs and behaviors of those elected officials are in constant moral opposition to my own, I can no longer permit them to represent me. I refuse to have the citizens of the world, my global brothers and sisters, believe I am a willing partner to imperial atrocities. Worst of all, to the murder of children.
If one unquestioningly subscribes to the mantra "America, love it or leave it," one is blind to the more essential mantra, "Humanity, love it or grieve it." My refusal to be morally distorted by George W. Bush can only be accomplished by relinquishing all connection to his governance. As of now, I don't know how to categorize the state of residing in a nation as a full citizen while not governed by its leadership. I didn't vote for this leadership and I'm not willing to remain a voiceless mass falsely portrayed by the Bush imperial regime. I must somehow broadcast beyond the borders of America that residing within its boundaries are millions of leaderless, unrepresented lovers of peace trying unceasingly to win back their nation. Not just to save America. But to save the whole world. To save the children. The children.
For now, I'll contend I'm a Bush government ex-patriot living in the United States. I won't seek out another nation. This is MY nation and I'm a viable entity within it. I uphold its Constitution. I pay my taxes. I make my living. I honor my neighbors. I feel no superiority to those beyond its borders. I share conscientiously in our nation and our planet.
But I have NO GOVERNMENT. I'm a disenfranchised American. George Bush doesn't know my heart. He's never looked in my eyes and seen my "soul." If he did look in my eyes, he'd see a disenfranchised American looking back. Not with warmth or admiration. Not as a member of his electorate. But as an ex-patriot of his government who resides within the nation. A disenfranchised American.
America, leave it or SEIZE IT. Humanity, know it and show it. Save the children!! Save the children!! Save the children!!
In Lebanon. In Israel. In Iraq. In sub-Saharan Africa. In Aceh, Indonesia. In Haiti. In the Dominican Republic. In South and Central America. In North America.
Save the children... the way adults are supposed to do.
Linda Milazzo is a Los Angeles based writer, educator and activist.
Posted by: Gerald at August 5, 2006 01:15 PM
Georgie,porgie, pudding and pie, he kissed the oil and made the world cry!!!!!
Posted by: Gerald at August 5, 2006 01:36 PM
Nazi America, Nazi Great Britain, and Nazi Israel are in an orchestrated plan to rid the world of 6 billion people.
Posted by: Gerald at August 5, 2006 01:40 PM
Brothers and Sisters - Awake
Posted by: Gerald at August 5, 2006 01:43 PM
53 ed
terrific points made
I would like to add,
America is a wonderful place. People from all over the world want to come here even if they have to go through dangerous circumstances and break our laws to get here.
It is good that we American citizens allow anti-American traitorous groups of imbeciles like A.N.S.W.E.R. and Code Pink to slander ALL other Americans. It shows America's great strength and endurance under our present administration.
The undeniable fact that no one EVER LISTENS to or takes seriously the moronic ranting of A.N.S.W.E.R. and Code Pink , is proof that the average hard working American will put up practically anything to maintain our freedom of speech.
The poor misguided fools of A.N.S.W.E.R. and Code Pink, do absolutely nothing productive for America, while they consistently and parasitically suck the life from the body of the America working class.
Under the great leadership of President Bush, our country is strong enough to withstand A.N.S.W.E.R. and Code Pink, which would probably be a crippling disease to any other country in the world.
Thank you President Bush, you are without doubt, the best President America has had or ever will have.
MUCH THANKS, on behalf of all those who post here on the David Corn blog.
Posted by: cash at August 5, 2006 01:44 PM
Beware
Posted by: Gerald at August 5, 2006 01:49 PM
Save the children... the way adults are supposed to do.
Linda Milazzo is a Los Angeles based writer, educator and activist.
SO Linda Milazzo IS PRO-LIFE, NOT PRO-ABORTION, CORRECT?
I mean, she doesn't believe in mudering babies WHO ARE LIVING snuggly and warm in the womb.
SO Linda Milazzo doesn't believe in allowing a mother to murder a baby WHO IS LIVING in the womb, correct?
Posted by: kitty at August 5, 2006 01:54 PM
The Worst President in History
Posted by: Gerald at August 5, 2006 01:58 PM
Dems Release Report Alleging White House Lawbreaking
Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee have released the final version of their report, "Constitution in Crisis," which details the many broken laws, misstatements and missteps they allege the Bush administration to have made. You can find it here.
We reported Monday on a draft summary of the document written by the top Judiciary Dem, Rep. John Conyers (D-MI).
Earlier this week I had a chance to talk with Conyers about why he produced the report.
"We could get no response from the president" about their concerns over pre-war intelligence and the march to war in Iraq, he said. "Then we tried to get hearings in the Judiciary Committee," which met with a "no way" response, according to Conyers.
"We said, 'look, we'll do it ourselves'" -- compile a document that lists every instance of alleged wrongdong by the Bush administration's handling of intelligence, the war in Iraq, and retaliation against those who tried to speak out about it. "Every sentence, every allegation, every accusation that we have in this 371-page report has a citation or a reference to it of where we got it," Conyers explained, with a hint of pride at his staff's work.
More HERE
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Thank all that is good and right in the world and thank goodness for the courageous souls like John Conyers!
How sad it is that the "rule of law" has taken a backseat to the whim of a petty tyrant.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 02:01 PM
Gerald 63
The Worst President in History, is Bill clinton.
I agree with you there Gerald. There is no doubt Clinton was the WORST OF ALL TIME.
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 02:02 PM
Mexico full poll recount rejected
Mexico's electoral body has rejected a request by left-wing candidate Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador for a full recount of votes from July's disputed election.
Instead, the electoral tribunal's seven judges ordered a partial recount.
Mr Lopez Obrador's supporters have repeatedly said a ballot-by-ballot recount is the only way to restore faith in Mexico's electoral system.
The 2 July vote gave victory to the conservative candidate, Felipe Calderon, by less than 1%.
The electoral tribunal ordered the recount of votes at 11,839 of the country's almost 130,500 polling stations.
Mr Obrador has challenged the election result, saying the vote was rigged.
He has said he will not accept a partial recount, raising fears of prolonged public unrest.
Hundreds of thousands of people in Mexico have been holding rallies to support Mr Obrador.
The dispute has paralysed Mexican politics, correspondents say.
A president-elect must be declared by 6 September to replace Vicente Fox on 1 December.
More HERE
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I guess the protests and demonstrations were not enough to compel a recount. (sounds too familiar)
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 02:07 PM
capt 64
"We said, 'look, we'll do it ourselves'" -- compile a document that lists every instance of alleged wrongdong by the Bush administration's handling of intelligence, the war in Iraq, and retaliation against those who tried to speak out about it. "Every sentence, every allegation, every accusation that we have in this 371-page report has a citation or a reference to it of where we got it," Conyers explained,
When facts didn't turn out the way we wanted, or would not further our agenda, we made up various things and added them to the report. Many times we had to split and cut sentenances to change the meaning to make it appear we were in the right. All in all, we made a report that, even though not truthful, will fool many of the more ignorant liberal voters.
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 02:09 PM
Saving America
George W. Bush is an international war criminal who should be arrested, shackled and led to the World Court to stand trial for his many crimes against humanity.
So should be any member of Congress who continues to support the illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq and whose actions contributed to the unnecessary deaths of 2,500 American military men and women along with the thousands upon thousands of Iraqi civilians.
The pathetic, partisan attempt by the Republican leadership in Congress to tie support for the Iraq debacle to the so-called "war on terrorism" is just another sad example of how far this nation has plunged into a immoral and unethical morass that cannot be erased by spin, rhetoric or lame attempts at justification.
The United States of America, a country that once stood for freedom, justice and human rights is now an international bully, a source of worldwide terrorism that poses a far greater threat to world peace than any Islam-spouting prophet hiding in a cave in Afghanistan.
More HERE
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Bush should be arrested for his crimes. There is not statute of limitations on war crimes and crimes against humanity. Aggression and wars of aggression have not escape clause for being stupid as in "We thought there were WMD's because Curveball said so".
I cannot wait to see monkey-boy in the dock at the Hague.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 02:26 PM
make way for the nonsense brigade!
nonsense brigade coming thru - step aside!
Posted by: spy on this! at August 5, 2006 02:31 PM
With all our differences, I know we can all agree on one thing.
There has never been, in the history of America, a political party with more liars, cheats and thieves, than the modern day Democrat party.
Not even Hitler's Nazi party could hold a candle to the modern day Democrat party, when it comes to corruption.
Quite simply put, If you are a modern day Liberal, you are worse than Hitler.
I have been chosen to speak for and know all posters here on the David Corn blog stand with me on this incontestable fact.
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 02:35 PM
The coward-in-chief dishonors those who served
I wish I could say that only George W. Bush had the gall to stand up on a day set aside to honor those who died in service to their country and use that day as a propaganda backdrop to promote an illegal and immoral war.
But Bush is just the leader of a gang of opportunists who use war to promote political agendas, fatten wallets and profit from mercenary greed.
From those in Congress, Republican and Democrat, who blindly voted to give Bush the power to wage war to his fat cat friends at Halliburton who profit daily from no-bid contracts to the many contractors, mercenaries and profiteers who get rich on the death and suffering of others, the brutal realities of the Iraq invasion dishonored those who died to serve their country.
Yet another American soldier died in Iraq on Memorial Day, along with two members of a CBS news crew and dozens of Iraqi civilians as suicide bombers and car bombs decimated the streets and roads of the country.
Bush callously stood before the families of Americans who have died in war and used the day to promote his failed Iraq agenda, talking cruelly of "completing missions" and staying the course.
More HERE
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Commander AWOL is an insult to all veterans.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 02:40 PM
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spy on this!
about capt's post at 68
make way for the nonsense brigade!
nonsense brigade coming thru - step aside!
No kidding, spy on this. Sometimes one wonders if capt ever pulls his head out of his butt long enough to see reality.
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 02:41 PM
Bush Agrees Bin-Laden Helped in '04
After Election 2004, George W. Bush recognized that al-Qaeda leader Osama bin-Laden had helped him to victory by releasing a videotape denouncing Bush just four days before Americans went to the polls, a move the CIA has concluded was a bin-Laden ploy to ensure the U.S. President a second term.
In a post-election interview with Washington Times reporter Bill Sammon, Bush said he judged that bin-LadenĠ³ harsh denunciation of him in a videotape released on Oct. 29, 2004, had rallied voters to the Republican banner.
"I thought it was going to help," Bush said. "I thought it would help remind people that if bin-Laden doesnĠ´ want Bush to be the President, something must be right with Bush."
Bin-LadenĠ³ diatribe after nearly a year of silence indeed did give Bush a crucial late boost with one national poll recording a six-percentage-point bounce in BushĠ³ favor. Bush supporters and many neutral voters apparently took bin-LadenĠ³ words at face value, assuming that bin-Laden really wanted Bush to be defeated.
But CIA analysts concluded that bin-Laden was actually playing a double game, pretending to want Bush out when he really hoped Bush would stay in. Bin-Laden was cagy enough to realize that his well-timed denunciation of Bush would have a predictable boomerang effect and thus help Bush gain a second term.
More HERE
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That is what friends are for.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 02:45 PM
Tom Friedman Throws in the Towel on Iraq
Finally, New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman has thrown in the towel on the Iraq War.
"It is now obvious that we are not midwifing democracy in Iraq. We are baby-sitting a civil war," he wrote in his Times column on August 4.
Long the war's leading liberal defender, Friedman came late and reluctantly to the realization that the jig is up.
"We can't throw more good lives after good lives," he wrote.
Beyond the human costs of the quagmire, which the peace movement has long tallied, Friedman also recognized what we in the peace movement have been saying about the security ramifications: "The longer we maintain a unilateral failing strategy in Iraq . . . the stronger the enemies of freedom will become," Friedman concluded.
This marks quite a journey for Friedman.
In his columns leading up to the war, Friedman supported the effort to take Saddam out, though not in the unilateralist fashion favored by the Bush Administration.
Nevertheless, in his final column on March 21, just as Bush was launching the war, Friedman wrote: "Bush's view is that in the absence of a UN endorsement, this war will become self-legitimating when the world sees most Iraqis greet U.S. troops as liberators. I think there is a good chance that will play out."
More HERE
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Just another mouthpiece but funny they are all jumping ship, eh?
That is what happens when the truth is thus.
"I think there is a good chance that will play out"
Never bet on a losing strategy, it will never win you anything except some humility if you are intellectually honest, right?
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 02:51 PM
I thought the Iraqis were Muslims
Raise your hand if you find this surprising.
Former Ambassador to Croatia Peter Galbraith is claiming President George W. Bush was unaware that there were two major sects of Islam just two months before the President ordered troops to invade Iraq, RAW STORY has learned.
In his new book, The End of Iraq: How American Incompetence Created A War Without End, Galbraith, the son of the late economist John Kenneth Galbraith, claims that American leadership knew very little about the nature of Iraqi society and the problems it would face after the overthrow of Saddam Hussein.
A year after his "Axis of Evil" speech before the U.S. Congress, President Bush met with three Iraqi Americans, one of whom became postwar IraqĠ³ first representative to the United States. The three described what they thought would be the political situation after the fall of Saddam Hussein. During their conversation with the President, Galbraith claims, it became apparent to them that Bush was unfamiliar with the distinction between Sunnis and Shiites.
Galbraith reports that the three of them spent some time explaining to Bush that there are two different sects in Islam Ñ to which the President allegedly responded, "I thought the Iraqis were Muslims!
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Add: ""Do you have blacks, too?" Bush to Brazilian President Fernando Cardoso, Washington, D.C., Nov. 8, 2001"
And you have a uninformed incurious George that could not find his ass with both hands and a mirror.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 02:59 PM
bush: thanx O, chex in the mail!
Posted by: spy on this! at August 5, 2006 03:03 PM
"I wish you'd have given me this written question ahead of time so I could plan for it I'm sure something will pop into my head here in the midst of this press conference, with all the pressure of trying to come up with answer, but it hadn't yet I don't want to sound like I have made no mistakes. I'm confident I have. I just haven't you just put me under the spot here, and maybe I'm not as quick on my feet as I should be in coming up with one."
President George W. Bush, after being asked to name the biggest mistake he had made, Washington, D.C., April 3, 2004
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With a little wit he could have said he made Laura mad or some other inane thing. I guess thinking while standing is hard work.
HA!
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 03:04 PM
Israeli Bombers Hit Christian Areas Israeli Massacre of Syrian Workers, Other Civilians Death Toll of 38
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The Israeli government has been destroying Lebanese factories in the Biqa' valley that have no obvious military value or particular connection to Hizbullah.
Naharnet writes: "More rockets slammed into Israel from south Lebanon early Friday, killing at least three people. Four were initially reported killed, but officials later revised the toll to three, saying one person was in a serious condition."
Displaced Lebanese in the South are facing several health problems, including lack of potable water and of fuel. Health conditions are so bad that they could generate epidemics.
Israeli bombing raids are interfering with the delivery of humanitarian aid in Lebanon.
Daniel Levy on ending the Neoconservative nightmare.
Amy Goodman's interview of me on Israel's war on Lebanon (transcript).
Thom Hartmann was kind enough to interview me on Friday at Air America.
A shout out to Al Franken with thanks for having had me on the show Thursday. Al does it with style and does it with humor.
I urge readers to support Amy Goodman and Air America-- our political lives would be much poorer without them.
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Some very good stuff from Juan Cole. That is if you like some Informed Comment.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 03:15 PM
53 I can't tell if ed is comletely tongue in cheek or not. Safer? No! I feel like the pot is boiling over. We turned up the heat with an ill-adsived attempt to transform Iraq in our image, which is inflamming the passions of Shia from Iran to Syria.
The Iranian population is educated and pro-USA, their leaders have been masterful at pitting shia against Jews and ultimately the USA. No this is blunder.
Supporting Israels destruction of Lebanon is putting out the fire with gasoline.
Posted by: O'Reilly at August 5, 2006 03:25 PM
55 Good post RicK. Murtha is smart to respond quickly and vociferously. Americans are far too disengaged. That is why these cynical mud-slinging attacks work.
Shame on Murtha's opponent for authorizing these tactics. She may be a very competent candidate but I don't respect the style of politics she permits in her campaign.
Many thanks for David Corn for my interest in national politics. His first book "The Lies of" opened my eyes and his blog gives me a community to share opinion and form my own. I would not have recognized the swifboating of an encumbent congressmen six years ago.
Is this what people mean by 'transparency' in government?
Posted by: O'Reilly at August 5, 2006 03:36 PM
When facts didn't turn out the way fubi wanted, or would not further fubi's agenda, we made up various things and added them to other people's posts. Many times we had to split and cut sentenances to change the meaning to make it appear we were in the right. All in all, we made a report that, even though not truthful, will fool many of the more ignorant CornBloggers.
Then i scratched my touch hole with each hand. I put my left index finger up my nose and my left in my mouth. When i took it out of my mouth, i understood that shit is what comes out of my mouth. i like the smell of my own shit. i am not selfish. i share it with you.
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 02:09 PM
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 03:47 PM
Microsoft Invites Hackers to Test Vista
Microsoft, one of the world's most ubiquitous companies, unveiled a plan to fortify Vista, their new product, against attacks that could compromise bank account numbers and other sensitive information.
Microsoft is inviting some of the world's best-known computer experts to fix the security weakness in the new generation communication system. It distributed a trial version of the product to 3,000 security professionals.
"We're here to show our work, you need to touch it and feel it," Andrew Cushman, one of the security directors of Microsoft, said at the Black Hat security conference.
Jon Callas, chief technology officer at PGP said, "They are going to people who don't like them, say nasty things, and have the incentive to find the things that are wrong."
More HERE
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"you need to touch it and feel it"
I think Andy has been working too hard for too long on this deliverable. HA!
Bill Gates steps down and MicroSoft sez "Bring it on!" -
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 03:47 PM
When Diseasters loom, be them Katrinas or bombings, AND TIME PERMITS, parents--rich, poor, black, white, Arab, Jew, American, Lebanese--first and formost, are responsible for getting their kids out of potential harm's way! Can any parent on this blog disagree with this? Surely NOT!
Now the off-blog Exceptions:
New Orleanians unschooled in personal responsibilities and
Lebanese Shiite supporters of Hezbollah
The preponderance of guilt for the death of Lebanese children lie w/their Lebanese parents!
It's elementary and learned by Neanderthals a few hundred thousand years ago!
Posted by: Silent Majority at August 5, 2006 03:54 PM
Posted by: Silent Majority at August 5, 2006 03:54 PM
Wrong on both counts.
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 03:58 PM
Randall Samborn, a spokesman for U.S. Atty. Patrick Fitzgerald, said the office does not comment on ongoing investigations.
Samborn, spokesman for the US Atty, has the EASIEST job in the world. The US Atty doesn't not talk.
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 04:01 PM
GOP Hurt by Redrawn Texas District
Three federal judges on Friday reunited a south Texas county into one congressional district under a Supreme Court-ordered map revision, a move that solidified Hispanic voting strength and made one Republican incumbent's re-election campaign more difficult.
Several districts were affected by the plan, but no House incumbent was bumped into another district. The judges emphasized that they made the minimal changes possible to fix the violations ordered by the Supreme Court.
The revision came after the Supreme Court in June found that the congressional map drawn by Republican state lawmakers in 2003 unconstitutionally diluted Hispanic voting power by dividing Hispanics in Webb County into two different districts represented by GOP Rep. Henry Bonilla and Democratic Rep. Henry Cuellar.
The new map places Webb County, which includes Laredo, entirely in Cuellar's district.
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Dare I point out the obvious:
"unconstitutionally diluted Hispanic voting power"
Is corrected and that means:
"GOP Hurt by Redrawn Texas District"
So the diluted Hispanic voting power was intended to HELP the GOP (unconstitutionally).
I hope the Hispanic voters all across American are paying attention.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 04:02 PM
rick 55
Alan colmes, isn't he that goofy, little side kick of Sean Hannity's? I think I heard Hannity had his own little gopher for errands, coffee and such. Does Hannity allow him talk on the show?Isn't his side kick that Alan guy?
Posted by: To rick at August 5, 2006 04:07 PM
Here, let me pretend I'm a liberal.
David ... whine-bitch, ... there are naughty people here spoof posting ... whine-bitch-cry ... you should ban all people who do not think like us. People who do not think like us have no right to be heard ... whine-bitch-cry,fart ... You said you would ban spoof posters, and we demand you ban free speech for all visitors on this blog, but not for regular left wing loonie Liberal posters ... whine-bitch-cry,fart ... oops, I sharted and gave birth to another Liberal.
For those who do not know what, sharted, means. When a liberal tries to fart, but shits himself instead.
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 04:19 PM
Wonderful to read Daniel Levy's wise words. So many have been saying just these things for the last five years. Pat Buchanan, General Zinni, Zbigniew Bryzinski, Justin Raimando, Kathleen Christison, Jimmy Carter and many more. Daniel Levy finds himself in rational and very wise company.
After I read "A Clean Break, A New STrategy for Securing the Realm" over five years ago, I worried for all of those in the middle east.
When Israel apologizes for their crimes against the Palestinians, and agrees to pay restitution for land taken. When they agree to move back to the 67 line, share Jerusalem and really begin to co-operate with the Iaea themselves. SIGN THE NPT ISRAEL..SIGN THE NPT
When Palestinians/Hamas recognize that Israel exists. Many around the world do not agree with how Israel became a sovereign nation, so I can see how the Palestinians should not be forced to say that Israel "has the right to exist". How about saying that "Israel exists", Israel is not going anywhere, except hopefully back to the 67 line. Palestinians need to fully accept this,even though they have been severely abused due to the UN decision.
What is taking place in the middle east right now is terribly depressing, and so terribly devestating for all who have lost their lives.
Daniel Levy is a rational and sane individual.
Posted by: kathleen at August 5, 2006 04:36 PM
Who's the extremist?
By his own definition - and his actions - Blair is as much of a danger to world peace as al-Qaida
Tony Blair's speech to the World Affairs Council in Los Angeles was revealing. His definition of the "arc of extremism" applies to himself perfectly. He "has an ideology, a world-view, deep conviction and the determination of the fanatic". His discourse is full of a secularised missionary absolutism, founded on a Manichean world-view of "We" and "They". The battle of the demons and angels in old Judeo-Christian apocalyptic literature turns into a conflict of good v evil in Bush's universe, and into progress v reaction in Blair's.
While constantly pointing the finger at Muslims and denying any part in the spread of terrorism, this arrogant rhetoric of neoliberal militantism, which goes hand in hand with military aggression on the ground, is terrorism's chief recruiter and the greatest threat to Britain's national security.
Today, Bush and Blair are not just giving Israel the green light to pursue its war on Lebanon. They are partners in this war aimed at reshaping the map of the Middle East. This is as though the region were a vacuum, or an empty desert - without a people, or memory - to be fashioned in light of their political fantasies and military strategies.
More HERE
*****end of clip*****
An interesting read.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 04:38 PM
#1 O'Reilly many believe that the neo-cons were done in by Chalabi
Posted by: kathleen at August 5, 2006 04:41 PM
Pleased you are back, Saladin.
Posted by: David B. Benson at August 5, 2006 04:45 PM
88 fubi
You are correct sir.
Medically speaking, "SHARTING ', is the only know method of giving birth to a Liberal. This has long been known as the reason for Liberal's policy on abortion.
Liberals know they can abort a child, and easily give birth to another Liberal the next day by simply drinking beer and eating hard boiled eggs.
When they wake in the morning, they simply sit on the stool, grunt, and give birth to another Liberal.
This is also why Liberals are such stinky little butt monkeys.
Posted by: misty at August 5, 2006 04:50 PM
Capt #90 It is definitely about a world view that believes that the Judeo-Christian (mostly Christian) west has the right ideas while the rest of the world does not. It is this hubris that leads to these unnecessary wars and hatred of the USA.
Posted by: Joe at August 5, 2006 04:50 PM
So many deaths and injuries in Lebanon, so much trauma and destruction. Anger towards Israel growing...what good did this do for anyone?
France and the United States reached agreement Saturday on a Security Council resolution to halt the fighting in Lebanon and lay out plans for a permanent cease-fire and a long-term political settlement, a French official said Saturday.
. . . Under the terms of the diplomatic agreement, a Security Council resolution will call for an immediate cessation of attacks by Hezbollah and of "offensive military operations" by Israel, according to a French diplomatic official who spoke on condition of anonymity because the agreement had not yet been made public. The official said that the text of the resolution would be released later on Saturday and that the Security Council had scheduled a meeting on Saturday afternoon to consider the matter.
A vote cannot occur in the Security Council until 24 hours after the formal introduction of a resolution. And it is far from clear whether Israel or Hezbollah would abide by the terms.
Posted by: kathleen at August 5, 2006 04:51 PM
#88 Are you trying to push Ann Coulter's book or something?
Posted by: Joe at August 5, 2006 04:52 PM
America is a wonderful place. People from all over the world want to come here even if they have to go through dangerous circumstances and break our laws to get here.
It is good that we American citizens allow anti-American traitorous groups of imbeciles like A.N.S.W.E.R. and Code Pink to slander ALL other Americans. It shows America's great strength and endurance under our present administration.
The undeniable fact that no one EVER LISTENS to or takes seriously the moronic ranting of A.N.S.W.E.R. and Code Pink , is proof that the average hard working American will put up practically anything to maintain our freedom of speech.
The poor misguided fools of A.N.S.W.E.R. and Code Pink, do absolutely nothing productive for America, while they consistently and parasitically suck the life from the body of the America working class.
Under the great leadership of President Bush, our country is strong enough to withstand A.N.S.W.E.R. and Code Pink, which would probably be a crippling disease to any other country in the world.
Thank you President Bush, you are without doubt, the best President America has had or ever will have.
MUCH THANKS, on behalf of all those who post here on the David Corn blog, especially Kathleen.
Posted by: cash at August 5, 2006 04:55 PM
Thousands of Troops Say They WonĠt Fight
By Ana Radelat Gannett News Service
Saturday 05 August 2006
Swept up by a wave of patriotism after the US invasion of Iraq, Chris Magaoay joined the Marine Corps in November 2004.
The newly married Magaoay thought a military career would allow him to continue his college education, help his country and set his life on the right path.
Less than two years later, Magaoay became one of thousands of military deserters who have chosen a lifetime of exile or possible court-martial rather than fight in Iraq or Afghanistan.
"It wasnĠt something I did on the spur of the moment," said Magaoay, a native of Maui, Hawaii. "It took me a long time to realize what was going on. The war is illegal."
Magaoay said his disillusionment with the military began in boot camp in Twentynine Palms, Calif., where a superior officer joked about killing and mistreating Iraqis. When his unit was deployed to Iraq in March, Magaoay and his wife drove to Canada, joining a small group of deserters who are trying to win permission from the Canadian government to stay.
"WeĠre like a tight-knit family," Magaoay said.
@truthout
Posted by: kathleen at August 5, 2006 04:56 PM
I always feel safer when hundreds of thousands of people are shouting "Death to Israel, Death to America". ARe we safer yet?
How about the rest of you?
Protests Erupt Across the Muslim World
By Daniel Howden The Independent UK
Saturday 05 August 2006
Mass protests have erupted across much of the Muslim world against the war in Lebanon, prompting louder and more desperate calls for a ceasefire from governments fearful of a popular backlash.
Indonesia's President, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, who leads the world's most populous Muslim nation, said: "This war must stop now, or it will radicalize the Muslim world, even those of us who are moderate today. It is just one step from there to a clash of civilizations."
Malaysia offered to deploy 1,000 peacekeeping troops to monitor any cease-fire. Peaceful demonstrations took place in Indonesia, the Philippines and Bangladesh, while Pakistan's parliament unanimously adopted a resolution condemning the attacks and demanding an immediate ceasefire.
These protests were dwarfed yesterday, the Muslim sabbath, by demonstrations in Baghdad, where hundreds of thousands of Shia thronged the streets to voice their support for Hizbollah as Arab anger toward Israel mounted. Such protests have even reached Saudi Arabia, where public displays of discontent are rare. Strict state control limited the scale of protest in Cairo and Damascus in comparison with the turnout in Baghdad, organised by the Shia cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.
Crowds of Sadr supporters from across Iraq's Shia heartland converged on the capital's Sadr City district, chanting "death to Israel, death to America".
Posted by: kathleen at August 5, 2006 05:02 PM
99 Kathleen
I always feel safer when hundreds of thousands of people are shouting "Death to Israel, Death to America". Are we safer yet?
YOU BET WE ARE! MUCH SAFER!
Fortunately for all humanity, hundreds of thousands is a an exceedingly small amount compared to the millions
and millions of people praising the wonderful work being done by America, Britain, and Israel, to protect the
cowardly cut and run traitors of the world.
Posted by: LLOYD at August 5, 2006 05:15 PM
The Boycott of Israeli goods is going to grow by leaps and bounds now.The Case for Boycotting Israel
Boycott Now!By VIRGINIA TILLEY
Johannesburg, South Africa.
It is finally time. After years of internal arguments, confusion, and dithering, the time has come for a full-fledged international boycott of Israel. Good cause for a boycott has, of course, been in place for decades, as a raft of initiatives already attests. But Israel's war crimes are now so shocking, its extremism so clear, the suffering so great, the UN so helpless, and the international community's need to contain Israel's behavior so urgent and compelling, that the time for global action has matured. A coordinated movement of divestment, sanctions, and boycotts against Israel must convene to contain not only Israel's aggressive acts and crimes against humanitarian law but also, as in South Africa, its founding racist logics that inspired and still drive the entire Palestinian problem.
That second goal of the boycott campaign is indeed the primary one. Calls for a boycott have long cited specific crimes: Israel's continual attacks on Palestinian civilians; its casual disdain for the Palestinian civilian lives "accidentally" destroyed in its assassinations and bombings; its deliberate ruin of the Palestinians' economic and social conditions; its continuing annexation and dismemberment of Palestinian land; its torture of prisoners; its contempt for UN resolutions and international law; and especially, its refusal to allow Palestinian refugees to return to their homeland. But the boycott cannot target these practices alone. It must target their ideological source.
@ counterpunch
Posted by: kathleen at August 5, 2006 05:17 PM
Kathleen, it is illegal to boycott Israel. Heavy fines are involved. On one blog that I frequent a poster commented that he had tried to post the same info as yours above on the Huffington blog, but that it was blocked immediately, that law is the likely cause.
Posted by: Saladin at August 5, 2006 05:42 PM
On BuzzFlash today, center column, near bottom: "America's Beaches Become Less Safe."
Posted by: David B. Benson at August 5, 2006 05:45 PM
David Benson 92, thank you. I also want to let all of those who stayed in touch with me via email, and there were quite a lot, to know how much I appreciate your thoughts and concern. Many of you encouraged me to come back, and that played a large part in my decision to do so, so thank you, I missed you guys anyway!
Sal
Posted by: Saladin at August 5, 2006 05:45 PM
Saladin, you are very welcome!
On AlterNet today, Zaal Maoz writes his opinion in "The War For Israel's Survival". Well done, IMHO.
Posted by: David B. Benson at August 5, 2006 05:51 PM
Kathleen,
Being a red blooded girl, I was just wondering what kind of cash you and other old commie whores like Medea Benjamin at Code Pink are getting for a night with the daughters you now prostitute out, since you and Medea Benjamin are to old and haggard to F**k for money yourself?
Oh yeah sure, maybe Bill Clinton would rape you,
but Bill would F**k a monkey if he thought no one watching.
Just curious. Like you did, I may be interested, in selling my daughter and my soul to an old commie whore like Medea Benjamin, for a little extra cash.
Posted by: misty at August 5, 2006 05:53 PM
Hey,
Saladin-the butcher of children
Are you a descendant of the butcher? If so, do you prefer a hatchet or fillet knife when butchering children?
I understand your Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, grand father just used a sword.
Have you ever tried a sword?
Sounds cool,
Please fill us in.
Thanks
Posted by: etu at August 5, 2006 06:06 PM
ZNet | Israel/Palestine
Israel's Marriage Ban Closes The Gates To Palestinians
by Jonathan Cook ; May 25, 2006
In approving an effective ban on marriages between Israelis and Palestinians this week, Israel's Supreme Court has shut tighter the gates of the Jewish fortress the state of Israel is rapidly becoming.
The judges' decision, in the words of the country's normally restrained Haaretz daily, was "shameful". By a wafer-thin majority, the highest court in the land ruled that an amendment passed in 2003 to the Nationality Law barring Palestinians from living with an Israeli spouse inside Israel -- what in legal parlance is termed "family unification" -- did not violate rights enshrined in the country's Basic Laws. And even if it did, the court added, the harm caused to the separated families was outweighed by the benefits of improved "security".
Few observers in Israel, however, believe that their government passed the law in 2003 on security grounds. Of the 6,000 Palestinians given residency rights in Israel during the Oslo period, a tiny number -- only 25 -- have been questioned on security-related matters, according to figures the government reluctantly published during the case. How many of this number were actually involved in attacks has still not been clarified.
Israel, concluded the judges, was justified in closing the doors to residency for all Palestinians in order to block the entry of those few who might use marriage as a way to launch terror attacks. Applications for family unification in Israel invariably come from Palestinians in the occupied territories who marry other Palestinians, often friends or relatives, with Israeli citizenship. One in five of Israel's population is Palestinian by descent, a group, commonly referred to as Israeli Arabs, who managed to remain inside the Jewish state during the war of 1948 that established Israel. As there is no principle of equality in Israeli law, human rights groups who challenged the government's 2003 amendment were forced to argue instead that it violated the dignity of the families. Mixed Israeli and Palestinian couples are not only unable to live together inside Israel but they are also denied a married life in the occupied territories, from which Israeli citizens are banned under military regulations.
Other non-Jewish spouses (read mainly Europeans and Americans) will face age and income requirements and be expected to affirm a loyalty oath -- not to Israel, but to Israel as a Jewish and democratic state. In keeping with current policy, non-Jews are unlikely to receive citizenship but may be eligible for residency rights. As one seasoned Israeli observer, Shahar Ilan, commented in Haaretz: "It is doubtful that there are many issues that elicit such broad consensus in the [Israeli] political system as that of closing the gates to family unification [of non-Jews]." Such changes will make Israel unlike any state we have seen in modern times. In 1980, at the height of apartheid in South Africa, the courts there refused to approve legislation much like Israel's ban on family unification, arguing that it contravened the right to a family life.
In Israel, on the other hand, faced with a new wave of racist legislation, no one -- not even the country's "liberal" Supreme Court - is prepared to safeguard the most basic rights of the land's native people.
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The apartheid state in action. Imagine if the US tried to pass a law like that here in the states. No whites marrying blacks, Mexicans or Asians, and actually living together within US borders, vice versa. Oh the hell the ACLU and every human rights advocacy in the country would raise! But Israel and apartheid South Africa were good buddies, so Israel can "build up the wall."
Posted by: Saladin at August 5, 2006 06:07 PM
Photo IDF soldier with Lebanese trophy baby. Yahoo News
Scroll down roughly a third of the way. A little something for the war lovers to enlarge and hang on the wall.
Posted by: Saladin at August 5, 2006 06:13 PM
The trolls are getting really nasty now. They must be scared.
Wassup cornbloggers. Keep fighting. You are the real patriots!
Posted by: corky at August 5, 2006 06:18 PM
The trolls are feeling a great deal of pressure..they are about to burst with hatred.
People probably know about "YOU TUBE" and "BRASSCHECK T.V." what a treasure house of video's and documentaries. Non-fiction. Go check it out.
Posted by: kathleen at August 5, 2006 06:19 PM
hey corky! missed ya!
Posted by: Saladin at August 5, 2006 06:19 PM
Is there an accurate count of how many children have been butchered by Emperor Bush's illegal invasion of Iraq?
Posted by: corky at August 5, 2006 06:20 PM
#Corky ...TROLLS GONE BALLISTIC. The truth is really getting under their reptilian hides.
Posted by: kathleen at August 5, 2006 06:21 PM
Kathleen, ya think? I would say they are reveling in the slaughter and destruction, based on their comments.
Posted by: Saladin at August 5, 2006 06:23 PM
Hello Saladin,
Not blogging much lately. So many scandals and evil schemes to read about takes up a lot of time.
Neocons are almost Nazi's now. Scary times now.
So much hate and death caused by one little group of evil greedy men.
Posted by: corky at August 5, 2006 06:24 PM
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Saladin the butcher of children
Imagine if the US tried to pass a law like that here in the states.
ACLU and every human rights advocacy in the country would raise
I imagine the (ACLU) American Communist Legal Union would raise it's courpt and ugly head and try to stop any kind of protection against terrorism America trys, as they have been trying to do for many years now, in order to make it easier for their partners AlQuaeda and Hizbollah to strike America like they did on 9/11, with Saddam's help.
Fortunatly, the number of complete wacked out, commie, left wing, liberal, crazies in America is a small, small number indeed.
The (ACLU) American Communist Legal Union, would just be ignored as the ignorant, commie, traitor, ass holes they are.
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 06:26 PM
Saladin. Have not heard about this law, but would not be surprised. Daniel Pipes of Campus Watch has done a darn good job at keeping the Boycott movement from taking hold, I think he will fail this fall. Spread the BOycott word.
In the past I have put Boycott Israeli Goods on Huffington Post many times, also divestment information.
Posted by: kathleen at August 5, 2006 06:26 PM
They rant to convince themselves of thier own delusion as it falls apart around them. The Fox news bubble is getting thin.
Posted by: corky at August 5, 2006 06:27 PM
corky, I don't see how they could ever get an accurate count of the childrens lives lost, they won't even give us an accurate count of our own troops, now estimated at 12,000 dead. They probably have a lot of catching up to do with the hundreds of thousands who died during 10 years of sanctions, I'm sure bush is concerned that clinton not get all the glory.
Posted by: Saladin at August 5, 2006 06:28 PM
Kathleen, I suspect the pressure is enormous, just look at the pro-Israel comments here, they are really going off the deep end.
Posted by: Saladin at August 5, 2006 06:30 PM
Im out.
LIVE FREE OR DIE! America will prevail over Neocon fascists!
Posted by: corky at August 5, 2006 06:31 PM
Fret? Just fret? Instead I blet. Blet, blet, blet!
Posted by: David B. Benson at August 5, 2006 06:34 PM
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Non-fiction
Yeah, Right.
Kathleen,
I have a bridge for sale over in San Francisco. It's really big. You want to buy it?
The only thing that is scary about you guys is the thought of 9/11's happening every other day right here in America, if a Dem were ever
--- unlikely as it is anymore since everyone knows how corrupt and ignorant they are ---
ever to get into the White House.
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 06:38 PM
Alan colmes, isn't he that goofy, little side kick of Sean Hannity's? I think I heard Hannity had his own little gopher for errands, coffee and such. Does Hannity allow him talk on the show?Isn't his side kick that Alan guy?
Posted by: To rick at August 5, 2006 04:07 PM
Sean Hannity sexually abuses Alan Colmes. Sean has negotaited terms that require Alan to sit, with his pants and underwear off, on Sean's face and say 'you love my bunghole, smell it.' The contract is illegal because indentured 'service' is illegal.
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 06:38 PM
Israel - 'We Are Untouchable'
By Tanya Hsu
For you Kathleen.
We are Israel. We are untouchable. No matter what we do the international community will not act against us.
...we are Jews - we are victims of the Holocaust. We have suffered such that we have the right to make the rest of the world pay...
Yes, we know that peoples all over the world have suffered worse crimes than ours, but they were not the Chosen People. We know that over 22 million Russians were killed under Stalin, 15 million Chinese killed by the Japanese, millions elsewhere in the world who suffer the same fate in the bloodiest 20th century.
That does not matter - we are special. The rest of the world will not touch us because they are terrified of the label "anti-Semite". World leaders: terrified of this most glorious ad hominem even though we are mostly not Semitic peoples. Jews of Israel, the Sephardim Jews, were almost non existant when we arrived from Russia, Poland, Austria-Hungary and elsewhere in the 20th century and demanded Arab land. They had spread out and moved on. We did not come from Yemen, Ethiopia or Iraq, but who cares? We are the victims and that is all that counts.
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Do you get the feeling this trump card is almost played out? I think they feel it, they have finally crossed the line.
Posted by: Saladin at August 5, 2006 06:38 PM
Don't you just love it?
There is Saladin the butcher of children and Kathleen out there preaching, "KILL ALL THE JEWS", "KILL ALL THE JEWS" I'm not a racist bigot, "KILL ALL THE JEWS".
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 06:44 PM
Practically all American citizens, with the very small exception of loonies on the far right and left fringes, feel the President's actions of confronting terrorism through out the middle east, rather than cowardly turning away or
cutting / running / surrendering, played a major role in making America as safe as is literally possible in these times.
Looks like ed needs a reality check.
Really, what is it about the Corn blog that attracts trolls of such inferior quality?
Posted by: Don at August 5, 2006 06:45 PM
I am a Saladin-hater. I claim Saladin is a jew-hater. Who is better?
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 06:48 PM
Corky Saladin. One thing I was amazed by was at the first anti-invasion march in the fall of 2002 I saw some people carrying Fascist signs.
At each of the next 6 marches (in New York and D.C.) I attended the Fascist signs increased by leaps and bounds amongst the sea of signs. Thousands of Bush/Neocons are fascist signs.
When I was collecting my close to 1000 audio interviews (mostly focused on people over 65). I interviewed numerous older Jewish couples who were carrying the Bush administration are Fascist signs. They were able to recognize the signals out of this administration.
It was amazing how many older people were truely terrified of this group.
I know I may be repeating myself from long ago. But the other group of individuals that intrigued me were all of the older gents who were VEts, WWII, Korean, Vietnam, and the first Gulf war vets. Those guys really know what they are talking about when they say how criminal this group is sending young men and women off to a war based on false pretenses. Many of these mostly men began to cry when they would share what they felt about this illegal war. They know..They know how serious it is to send children off to war. They know it better be a damn good reason (backed up by solid evidence) for our leaders to send U.S. soldiers into harms way.
American mainstream news sure did not interview these vets for the evening news. NO they let many Americans sitting at home think that it was just a bunch of hippies at these marches. Instead of the families, Vets, truck drivers, tree huggers, Grandparents, teachers, lawyers, plumbers , social workers etc. I challenged many of the media outlets while they were filming, many would film the diversity, but by the time their producers got a hold of what they would film. We know the evening news would show the same footage of 20 people with black hoods over their heads over and over again. The american public was duped by the MSM, the media did not do their job and inform the public accurately. People were left at home in their living rooms confused by the few questions being asked on the BBC and in the alternative media. Thousands of innocent lives have been lost on this unnecesary war.
Will the mainstream ask hard and relevant questions about the claims being repeated about Iran and Syria. So far many in the press have allowed John Bolton and other Bush hacks continuously make endless unverifiable claims about Iran. (Although Juan Williams went off on Bill Kristol on Fox) The press is at fault once again if they do not do their job, and challenge these assertions about Iran and Syria.
Seymour Hersch of the New Yorker has been trying to take the lead on this, but few follow his honorable example.
Hopefully there is a hell..... We know that we turned Iraq into one, and Israel is busy doing the same for the people of Lebanon
Posted by: kathleen at August 5, 2006 06:53 PM
129 is a spoof poster
I will now shout the normal Liberal reaction to spoof posting!
spoof poster --- spoof poster --- spoof poster --- David, you must ban free speech, except for left wing loonie crack whores.
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 06:56 PM
Re #130: kathleen, well said.
Posted by: David B. Benson at August 5, 2006 07:00 PM
American strategists have calculated the proportion of civilians killed in this century's major wars. In the First World War 5 per cent of those killed were civilians, in the Second World War 48 per cent, while in a Third World War 90-95 per cent would be civilians: Colin Ward, Anarchy in Action
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What a stupendous, what an incomprehensible machine is man! Who can endure toil, famine, stripes, imprisonment & death itself in vindication of his own liberty, and the next moment ... inflict on his fellow men a bondage, one hour of which is fraught with more misery than ages of that which he rose in rebellion to oppose: Thomas Jefferson
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It is when power is wedded to chronic fear that it becomes formidable: Eric Hoffer
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You see what power is -- holding someone else's fear in your hand and showing it to them!: Amy Tan
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Thanks ICH Newsletter!
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 07:07 PM
130
Kathleen
Seymour Hersch of the New Yorker has been trying to take the lead on this, but few follow his traitorous example.
That is because Seymour is a lunatic and a liar, and all but the most moronic of people understand that.
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 07:07 PM
Transfiguration
Dear Cornposters:
This Sunday, August 6, 2006, is the Feast of the Transfiguration. On August 6, 1945 the atomic bomb was dropped on Japan. I believe the feast of the transfiguration calls us to transform our way of viewing this act. I believe that we need to transform our world, not by bombs but by prayer. We need to go to the mountain of God and listen to the voice of the prophets and hear what alternatives we have to end conflict.
The tragedy of what is happening to the good people of Lebanon cries out to God. It is terrible that the state of Israel should behave in such a manner. Nothing in their scriptures justifies such action. I heard a Jewish priest who was raised Jewish and he converted to Catholicism speak on the state of Israel and he said tragically the state has become like any other state. Israel has forgotten the promise to be a Light to the Nations.
The people of Lebanon are bleeding. They are in need of peace and a transfusion of love, mercy, and compassion. The people of Lebanon need for the world to cry out: enough!
The feast of the Transfiguration calls us to listen to alternative voices. We really have to go somewhere else than the newspaper and the television news to hear the voice of God. We need to turn off the television and sit quietly somewhere and pray.
Sincerely,
Gerald
Posted by: Gerald at August 5, 2006 07:14 PM
If Cornfolks feel so inclined, please call or email the Diane Rehm show and ask them to have Sydney Blumenthal on the program to talk about his latest article at Salon.
Many of us know that there have been many reporters writing about the "alleged" NSA wiretapping of Colin Powell, Kofi Anan and others. Many have written about the strong possibility that Powell's negotiations with Syria and Iran were trumped and interfered with via Nsa wiretappings, so it is no surprise that it 'allegedly" is still going on for Condi Rice.
Syndey Blumenthal has name recognition and would be a great guest...especially about what he has recently written.
CALL 202-885-1252 OR EMAIL DRSHOW@WAMU.ORG
They will actually take your suggestions into consideration. Give it a shot. Sydney would be a great guest.
The neocons' next war
By secretly providing NSA intelligence to Israel and undermining the hapless Condi Rice, hardliners in the Bush administration are trying to widen the Middle East conflict to Iran and Syria, not stop it.
By Sidney Blumenthal
The National Security Agency is providing signal intelligence to Israel to monitor whether Syria and Iran are supplying new armaments to Hezbollah as it fires hundreds of missiles into northern Israel, according to a national security official with direct knowledge of the operation. President Bush has approved the secret program. (Intelligence, including that gathered by the NSA, has been provided to Israel in the past for various purposes.) Inside the administration, neoconservatives on Vice President Dick Cheney's national security staff and Elliott Abrams, the neoconservative senior director for the Near East on the National Security Council, are prime movers behind sharing NSA intelligence with Israel, and they have discussed Syrian and Iranian supply activities as a potential pretext for Israeli bombing of both countries, the source privy to conversations about the program says. The neoconservatives are described as enthusiastic about the possibility of using NSA intelligence as a lever to widen the conflict between Israel and Hezbollah and Israel and Hamas into a four-front war.
Later cornfolk
Posted by: kathleen at August 5, 2006 07:20 PM
Fubi you have flipped your lid, at least try to make some sense.
Posted by: kathleen at August 5, 2006 07:21 PM
David ... whine-bitch, ... there are naughty people here spoof posting ... whine-bitch-cry ... you should ban all people who do not think like us. People who do not think like us have no right to be heard ... whine-bitch-cry,fart ... You said you would ban spoof posters, and we demand you ban free speech for all visitors on this blog, but not for regular left wing loonie Liberal posters ... whine-bitch-cry,fart
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 07:21 PM
Gerald,
135
The people of Lebanon are bleeding. They are in need of peace and a transfusion of love, mercy, and compassion. The people of Lebanon need for the world to cry out: enough!
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And the world will CRY OUT , as soon as Lebanon stops supporting Hizbollah purposely killing Israeli children by firing rockets at Israeli civilian areas instead of trying to go after Israeli military. Lebanon is a country who supports the killing and killers of Israeli children.
Lebanon deserves no mercy from anyone until they help eliminate Hizbollah instead of supporting and helping them kill Israeli children.
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 07:27 PM
The real Lieberman campaign: Lobbyist-thugs
Richard Goodstein, a DC lobbysist is doing his thuggery best to help support Joe Lieberman.
Greg: So I just reached D.C. lobbyist Richard Goodstein on his cellphone. Goodstein the lobbyist confirmed that he is indeed the guy on the front-page of today's Record-Journal who appeared to be heckling Lamont in a diner.
CTBob: Two events on US Senate challenger Ned Lamont's schedule today were disrupted by representatives of Senator Joe Lieberman, when they tried to remove signs from Lamont supporters and drown out remarks by the Rev. Jesse Jackson in Middletown and disrupt Mr. Lamont's stop for a meal at Ted's Hamburgers in Meriden.
"I'm disgusted that a United States Senator would use paid hooligans to attempt to disrupt our events and incite violence in this way," Campaign Manager Tom Swan said.
More HERE
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Say it ain't so Joe? Campaigning like a GOPher - thugs and slugs in tow?
I hope the good people of CT have a little sense of shame for Lieberman.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 07:29 PM
"Although the main solution is for the elimination of the Zionist regime, at this stage an immediate ceasefire must be implemented," Ahmadinejad said, according to state-run television in a report posted on its Web site.
Here is how the Aipac site has stated what he said.
Iranian Leader Calls for Israel to be Ò liminatedÓIranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Thursday that the solution to the Israel-Hizballah conflict in Lebanon was the ÒliminationÓ of Israel, Agence France Presse reported. Ahmadinejad has previously sparked international outrage by calling for the Jewish state to be Ò·iped off the map.Ó Iran is recognized by the State Department as the worldĠ³ leading sponsor of terrorism. Hizballah receives an estimated $100 million annually and regular weapons shipments from Tehran, including the Katyusha rockets the terrorist group is currently using against Israeli civilians. Learn more about IranĠ³ support for terrorism
I heard both Ariel Sharon and Richard Perle demand that the U.s. take military action against Iran way back in 2003 and 2004 before Ariel Sharon had his stroke. How does one catergorize these radical statements
Both sides are quilty of throwing out inflammatory statements.
But AIPAC over and over misprints statements.
Posted by: kathleen at August 5, 2006 07:32 PM
GOOD JOB, BUT YOU FORGOT PART OF IT.
and a very good addition by misty
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Here, let me pretend I'm a liberal.
David ... whine-bitch, ... there are naughty people here spoof posting ... whine-bitch-cry ... you should ban all people who do not think like us. People who do not think like us have no right to be heard ... whine-bitch-cry,fart ... You said you would ban spoof posters, and we demand you ban free speech for all visitors on this blog, but not for regular left wing loonie Liberal posters ... whine-bitch-cry,fart ... oops, I sharted and gave birth to another Liberal.
For those who do not know what, sharted, means. When a liberal tries to fart, but shits himself instead.
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 04:19 PM
93
88 fubi
You are correct sir.
Medically speaking, "SHARTING ', is the only know method of giving birth to a Liberal. This has long been known as the reason for Liberal's policy on abortion.
Liberals know they can abort a child, and easily give birth to another Liberal the next day by simply drinking beer and eating hard boiled eggs.
When they wake in the morning, they simply sit on the stool, grunt, and give birth to another Liberal.
This is also why Liberals are such stinky little butt monkeys.
Posted by: misty at August 5, 2006 04:50 PM
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 07:32 PM
as soon as Lebanon stops . . .
The IDF and Hezbollah are the forces dropping bombs and you claim its up to Lebanon to do something that will cause the end of the war. How does that work.
Posted by: HBL at August 5, 2006 07:34 PM
misty, I tell those sharted liberals to bung my touch hole, Traitors!!!!! Coward lying whiners terrorist-loving jew-hating bunghole toucher traitors.
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 07:37 PM
Bilderberg lords want rid of 85% of worlds population
19Jun06 - Jocelan Caldwell - Bilderberg site exclusive
What would you think if all of the North-American sports team owners, for instance, met secretly every year where no media were allowed in or to interview any of the participants, where there were armed guards at all the doors and when they exited that meeting, the individuals hid their faces so as not to get photographed and refused to talk to reporters? What would the reaction be? Sports fans - and most everyone else - would be furious! We would wonder what kind of deals were they hatching, what were they plotting and planning that they didn't want the rest of us to know?
Sounds pretty weird, eh? But did you know that recently at a 5-star hotel in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, more than 100 of the world's most wealthy and powerful individuals - called the Bilderbergers or the Illuminati or Synarchists - (and confirmed as including Hilary Clinton, George H.W. Bush, David Rockefeller, Gov. George Pataki of New York, the President of the Federal Reserve Bank, Henry Kissinger and Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, whose family owns Royal Dutch Shell Oil) got together under just such circumstances to discuss the future of not baseball but the world as the rich and powerful want it to look like. At the end of their meeting they covered their faces, ashamed, as they sneaked out to their limousines to the airport.
On Wednesday, June 14th on the nightly "Coast to Coast" radio program from Los Angeles, host George Noory interviewed three men who have been long aware of the Bilderbergers but up until the past few years have been laughed at and dismissed as conspiracy theorists and worse - Jim Mars of Texas, author of "Rule by Secrecy"; Daniel Esheron, author of "The True History of the Bilderberger Club" and Alex Jones author of "Martial Law 911".
They discussed the One World Order the Bilderbergers have been planning for all the rest of us, to include the Canamex Highway which would run straight from Mexico, through the U.S.A. up to Canada with no border inspections; transponders for taxation purposes to be placed in all new automobiles (which has already come up for discussion in the Texas legislature); the U.S.'s future of undefended borders which started only recently when the government backed down on a plan to spend $60 million to update all U.S. ports; a future where the Bilderbergers will appoint all world leaders and return to feudalism and a plan to reduce the world population by 80-90 percent, to name just a few.
How, you may ask, can a group of only about 300 individuals get control over the rest of us? One way is by placing microchips in individuals (recently done by the President of a large American bank to "allow him access to secret vaults and store rooms in his bank"), the International Monetary Fund's Wolfowitz who will control the World Bank, the Federal Reserve Bank, all European banks, the Secretary General of NATO and therefore NATO itself; it includes the Tri-Lateral Commission's plan, already in process, of NAFTA, the Euro Group and to include a group of Asian countries.
Their plans, over the years, have already been witnessed - World War II, the Korean War, starvation of nations, Viet Nam, and the fact that virtually nothing is being done for the Hurricane Katrina victims in New Orleans.
Posted by: Gerald at August 5, 2006 07:39 PM
PS
Excuse me, I forgot to give the liber spoof poster rant.
Here goes.
138 is a spoof post.
spoof poster --- spoof poster --- spoof poster --- David, you must ban free speech, except for left wing loonie crack whores and racist bigots like Kathleen and Saladin the butcher of children.
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 07:40 PM
Good article, at JTA (Jewish Telegraphic Agency)
NEWS ANALYSIS
Does Kana fallout show a rift
between White House and State?
By Ron Kampeas
August 1, 2006
WASHINGTON, Aug. 2 (JTA) Ñ It was as if the stretch of Pennsylvania Avenue between the White House and Foggy Bottom lengthened, well, to the distance between Jerusalem and Miami Beach.
President Bush and his secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice, staked what appeared to be radically different approaches to the aftermath of an Israeli strike on the village of Kana in southern Lebanon that killed dozens of civilians.
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Israel presses ground offensive
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Less then a day after Rice, in Jerusalem, extracted an agreement from Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert to temporarily suspend IsraelĠ³ air attacks on Lebanon Ñ reportedly because she was Ò³ickenedÓ by the deaths Ñ Bush was telling supporters in Florida that Israel has a right to defend itself.
Òt is important to remember this crisis began with HezbollahĠ³ unprovoked terrorist attacks against Israel,Ó Bush said. Òsrael is exercising its right to defend itself, and we mourn the loss of innocent life, both in Lebanon and in Israel.Ó
Posted by: kathleen at August 5, 2006 07:41 PM
Israel and 'Moral Equivalence'
The Qana massacre reveals the true face of Israel's aggression
The Qana massacre was the occasion for a full-court propaganda campaign by Israel's amen corner, and one has to say they rose to the occasion like real pros. First, of course, they expressed remorse then, naturally enough, they blamed it all on Hezbollah.
How so? Well, you see, the Israelis bombed a building filled with children and old people because rockets fired at Israel "originated immediately next to it." Yet the Red Cross denied there were any Hezbollah in Qana. The Israelis keep up a constant refrain claiming Lebanon uses its own civilian population as "human shields," but the reality is quite different: Lebanese civilians flee when Hezbollah fires a fusillade, because they know the Israelis will soon be bombing the place to perdition. Aside from which, Nasrallah's folks are a tightly knit group and security is taken seriously: a friend of mine who went into Hezbollah headquarters in southern Beirut was subjected to such a thorough search that by the time they were through with him he was bereft of his dignity as well as any desire to proceed further. Hezbollah doesn't trust noncombatants, and for that reason keeps well away from them no matter what their religious, ethnic, or political affiliations.
Read this Haaretz piece and see if you can figure out how the IDF is trying to slither and slide out of this one: the building didn't collapse immediately, there is an 8-hour gap or maybe not and "maybe we'll never know what happened." Blah blah blah in short, the Israelis are blowing a lot of smoke.
One has to wonder, however, what it is they're smoking if they really think anyone believes their overly elaborate obfuscations. Like a squid ejecting a cloud of ink, the Israeli propaganda machine is emitting all sorts of alternate scenarios, replete with maps, aerial photos, and video, and they dispatched their Internet army to spread the rationalizations far and wide. All to cover up a simple, irrefutable fact: it was Israeli warplanes, and not Hezbollah, that slaughtered 56 people, more than half of them young children, and the rest women and old folks.
More HERE
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I re-post since the troll in using a new handle. I know they are not educated enough to read but I would not want to deny them the necessary information to form their own opinion.
"Great spirits have always encountered opposition from mediocre minds. The mediocre mind is incapable of understanding the man who refuses to bow blindly to conventional prejudices and chooses instead to express his opinions courageously and honestly." ~ Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955), quoted in New York Times, March 13, 1940
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 07:41 PM
David... Fubi is over the top "it" needs to go.
Posted by: kathleen at August 5, 2006 07:43 PM
Trolls going crazy or a concerted effort?
Dear friends,
Many of us recognize the importance of the Internet as the new battleground for Israel's image. It's time to do it better, and coordinate our on-line efforts on behalf of Israel. An Israeli software company have developed a free, safe and useful tool for us - the Internet Megaphone.
Please go to www.giyus.org, download the Megaphone, and you will receive daily updates with instant links to important internet polls, problematic articles that require a talk back, etc.
We need 100,000 Megaphone users to make a difference. So, please distribute this mail to all Israel's supporters.
Do it now. For Israel.
Amir Gissin
Director Public Affairs (Hasbara) Department
Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Jerusalem
********
There you go!
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 07:43 PM
144 is a spoof post.
spoof poster --- spoof poster --- spoof poster --- David, you must ban free speech, except for left wing loonie crack whores and racist bigots like Kathleen the code pink commie whore and Saladin the butcher of children.
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 07:44 PM
If Kathleen and Saladin = crack whores, racist bigots and butcher of children, what am I?
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 07:46 PM
I am a swill spewing hater.
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 07:47 PM
At National Review
Racing to New Lows
The ugly last days of the Connecticut Democratic primary.By Stephen Spruiell
The campaign for Senate in Connecticut really heated up this week, with both candidates for the Democratic nomination playing the race card in an attempt to gain the edge. First, incumbent Senator Joe Lieberman sent fliers to black churches promoting his own record on civil rights (he marched with Martin Luther King in the Ôĥ0s) and asking why it took his opponent, wealthy Greenwich businessman Ned Lamont, so long to quit his exclusive country club (which he did only when the Senate race started heating up).
The tables were turned when Lamont gained the support of AmericaĠ³ two most prominent black politicians Ñ Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson Ñ who parachuted into Connecticut to help the Lamont campaign win the crucial support of black Democrats. At a series of events at black churches around the state, Sharpton and Jackson told crowds that a vote for Lamont was a vote against George W. Bush Ñ a president who, despite making early inroads with blacks, saw his approval ratings in that demographic plummet after Hurricane Katrina.
Posted by: kathleen at August 5, 2006 07:49 PM
152, 153, 154 spoof posts
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 07:49 PM
154 not a spoof. 155 a spoof.
Posted by: fubi at August 5, 2006 07:50 PM
Former Astronaut Glenn in Car Accident
Former senator and astronaut John Glenn and his wife were expected to be released from the hospital Saturday after getting in a car accident a day earlier, authorities said.
Glenn, 85, and his wife, Annie, 86, were in fair condition Saturday afternoon at Grant Medical Center and were expected to be discharged later in the day, nursing supervisor Louis Tejada said.
Hospital staff would not comment on the extent of their injuries. Police said Saturday no further information was available on the crash.
The driver of the other car, Amy Myers of suburban New Albany, said she was driving east late Friday night when Glenn, who was driving west, tried to turn left onto a highway ramp.
Myers, who was not injured, said her car hit the front of his.
Glenn was "very sincerely sorry," Myers said.
Glenn, who served in the Senate from 1974 to 1998, first made headlines in 1962, when he piloted the first manned orbital mission of the United States. He went back into space in 1998, at the age of 77.
More HERE
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God's speed for a return to good health.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 08:08 PM
Governors Bristle at Bush Guard Proposal
CHARLESTON, S.C. (AP) -- The nation's governors are closing ranks in opposition to a proposal in Congress that would let the president take control of the National Guard in emergencies without consent of governors.
The idea, spurred by the destruction and chaos that followed Hurricane Katrina's landfall in Louisiana and Mississippi, is part of a House-passed version of the National Defense Authorization Act. It has not yet been agreed to by the Senate.
The measure would remove the currently required consent of governors for the federalization of the Guard, which is shared between the individual states and the federal government.
"Federalization just for the sake of federalization makes no sense," said Gov. Kathleen Blanco of Louisiana, a Democrat who had rough relations with the Bush administration after the disaster last year. "You don't need federalization to get federal troops. ... Just making quick decisions can make things happen."
Gov. Mark Sanford of South Carolina, a Republican, said "a whole bunch of governors" were opposed to the idea after the proposed change was brought up in a private lunch meeting.
More HERE
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Why does Bunnypants want to consolidate power?
"The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?'"
~ George Orwell 1984 Part 3 Chapter 3
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 08:31 PM
#157 & #158 Are not spoofs!
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 08:32 PM
UN Approaches the Dustbin of History
Does the United Nations Have the Capacity to Intervene?
Since the establishment of the UN, the US has used its veto no less than forty times to shield Israel from the international scrutiny and to enable it to violate international norms and to commit war crimes with impunity. The latest such obstruction of the international will occurred only two and a half weeks ago (July 13), when the US blocked a resolution that would have demanded Israel cease its onslaught against Gaza, the first Security Council veto in twenty one months. Not uncharacteristically, ten members voted in favor, while the US was alone voting against, with four abstentions. As a further sign of US isolation in the UN, eight of the last nine vetoes protecting Israel have been cast by the U.S. Remarkably, this is the first time in UN history that a call for a ceasefire is opposed so blatantly.
With pressure from the world community mounting for an immediate cessation of hostilities, the US and the Blair government are standing alone against the continuous killing of civilians despite Qana II and despite the description of Israel's atrocities by Louise Arbour, the top UN 's human rights official, who served as the chief prosecutor for the International Criminal Tribunals for Rwanda and Yugoslavia, as qualifying for war crimes under International criminal law and under International humanitarian law.
More HERE
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With the US and France coming to an agreement I cannot help but wonder if Germany and Russia will be on board?
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 08:37 PM
Rebels 'smell blood' in lawless Baghdad
Americans lose faith in war
IT IS rare that Donald Rumsfeld, the US defense secretary, is lost for words. Yet last week he was subjected to a tirade of criticism for his conduct of the war in Iraq from Senator Hillary Clinton, the Democrat favorite for president in 2008.
"Yes we hear a lot of happy talk and rosy scenarios, but because of the administration's strategic incompetence and record of blunders and, frankly, the record of incompetence in executing, you are presiding over a failed policy," Clinton charged at a hearing of the Senate armed services committee. "Given your track record . . . why should we believe your assurances now?"
Rumsfeld, who had not wanted to appear before the committee at all, reeled. "My goodness," he said, before embarking on an explanation of "the unfortunate and tragic thing that's taking place".
The defense secretary could not bring himself to say the phrase, civil war, but his top commanders did it for him. Their assessment was almost as blunt as that of William Patey, Britain's envoy to Iraq, who warned in a parting letter to London that the country was in a "low intensity civil war" with diminishing prospects of achieving a stable democracy.
General John Abizaid, the head of US forces in the Middle East, told the Senate committee that the sectarian violence was "probably as bad as I have seen it, in Baghdad in particular, and if not stopped, it is possible that Iraq could move towards civil war".
The chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, Peter Pace, backed him up. "We do have the possibility of that developing into civil war." He went on to say: "Shiite and Sunni are going to have to love their children more than they hate each other."
More HERE
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I have posted before - the current misadministration will not call it a "civil war" until after they steal the mid-terms.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 08:43 PM
NYT: WILKES SPEAKS -- Earmarks System "Little More Than a Shakedown"
Brent Wilkes, a.k.a. "Co-conspirator #1" -- who allegedly bribed Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham -- has been silent since the Cunningham scandal broke. Now, he has given his first on-the-record interview to the New York Times:
Mr. Wilkes had set up separate meetings with the lawmakers hoping to win a government contract, and he planned to punctuate each pitch with a campaign donation. But his hometown congressman, Representative Bill Lowery of San Diego, a Republican, told him that presenting the checks during the sessions was not how things were done, Mr. Wilkes recalled.
Instead, Mr. Wilkes said, Mr. Lowery taught him the right way to do it: hand over the envelope in the hallway outside the suite, at least a few feet away.
That was the beginning of a career built on what Mr. Wilkes calls "transactional lobbying," which made him a rich man but also landed him in the middle of a criminal investigation.
More HERE
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Selling our democracy is just business, right?
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 09:38 PM
Zionists gone wild.
Posted by: Saladin at August 5, 2006 09:42 PM
"The sight this week of Secretary of State Rice homeward bound, unable to touch down in any Arab capital, should have a sobering effect in Washington and Jerusalem."
I hope that sent a loud signal to congress and the military. Rumsfeld and Rice can't do the job. Who in the white house can? We need to get people in there who can put this fire out. If Bush can't find competent people to do that then he needs to step aside and let adults go to work. When I say step aside I don't mean for Cheney to step in. He's just another clown in the comedy act. Really sad.
Posted by: Jeanne at August 5, 2006 09:46 PM
White House Behind Bars
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There is no excuse for lawyers, commanders, or high government officials to claim ignorance of either the existence or meaning of these long-standing laws and long-ratified treaties. All possible targets of a criminal prosecution are public servants bound by oath to protect and uphold the Constitution and the laws of the U.S., including treaties. Knowledge of their duties and the laws to which their duties apply must be seen as required by their offices, and the War Crimes Act provides the means for prosecution.
Members of the Bush administration, in particular, may have violated the Geneva Conventions in several ways not just by the military tribunals themselves. The transfer of detainees to Guantanamo and other detention centers (including the CIA "black sites"), the manners and methods of interrogation (torture), and the detentions without "the rights of a fair and regular trial," all may constitute violations of Geneva.
Some or all of these acts may be considered "grave breaches" of the Geneva Conventions. These include: "willfully causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health . . . willfully depriving a prisoner of war" or other person under the power of the detaining authority "of the rights of fair and regular trial," and "unlawful deportation or transfer or unlawful confinement."
Some acts may also violate Common Article 3 of the Conventions which the Supreme Court relied on in its recent decision prohibits "cruel treatment," "humiliating and degrading treatment," and "passing of sentences . . . without previous judgment pronounced by a regularly constituted court, affording all the judicial guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples."
More HERE
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The "rule of law" demands justice for those who endeavor to break the law. Playing dumb or pretending not to know what is legal is the oldest - most worthless defense. Like saying "I did not know it was illegal so I am completely innocent?"
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 09:53 PM
U.N. draft breaks France-U.S. impasse
The U.S. and France agreed Saturday on a draft Security Council resolution that seeks a full halt to fighting in Lebanon, breaking a three-week impasse caused partly by Washington's refusal to press Israel to end its offensive against Hezbollah.
Despite the agreement, fighting raged on. Israeli naval commandos struck the southern port of Tyre before dawn, while Israeli air raids killed at least eight people across Lebanon and a rain of Hezbollah rockets on northern Israel killed three civilians.
The resolution would chart a path toward a lasting peace with a cease-fire monitored by international troops. If passed, it would be the most significant international response to the crisis and raise hopes of ending combat that has killed at least 600 and left Lebanon in tatters.
Posted by: Jeanne at August 5, 2006 09:55 PM
Jeanne,
What is WORSE is HRC saying we can "turn this thing around" I want some of what she is smoking! She sounds as deluded as any neocon.
HA!
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 09:56 PM
Mideast fight ramps up despite U.N. deal
BEIRUT, Lebanon - Israel and Hezbollah sharply intensified fighting Saturday with airstrikes, rocket attacks and brutal ground fighting Ñ an apparent bid to inflict maximum mutual damage even as the United States and France agreed on a draft U.N. resolution calling for a halt to the violence.
Even if the U.N. Security Council adopts the resolution early next week as expected, the task of winning agreement from the warring parties portended a far more bumpy diplomatic road than the one already traveled.
As it became clear a U.S.-French agreement on the text was drawing near, Israeli-Hezbollah fighting grew particularly intense over the past few days.
Israeli commandos battled Hezbollah guerrillas in a dramatic raid on an apartment building in the southern port city of Tyre on Saturday, while warplanes blasted south Beirut. The fighting across Lebanon killed at least eight Lebanese and two Israeli soldiers, while a Hezbollah rocket volley killed three women in northern Israel.
Shortly after the diplomatic agreement was announced on the 25th day of the conflict, a Hezbollah Cabinet minister said militant Shiite guerrillas would not stop fighting until all Israeli troops leave Lebanon. The draft resolution makes no such demand.
"We (will) abide by it on condition that no Israeli soldier remains inside Lebanese land. If they stay, we will not abide by it," said Mohammed Fneish, one of two Hezbollah members of the government.
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There is the rub. The Israelis will not leave until there is an international force (so they say) the Lebanese will not abide if the Israelis are on their land, the so-called international force will not go in while there is active fighting (hard to blame them) so I predict fighting until after the midterms. The cynical calculation is mine alone and I do hope I am wrong.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 10:18 PM
#167
I gave up on her a long time ago. Turn this thing around. That sounds almost laughable. Kinda like believing you can stop an out of control freight train with hand brakes and muscle.
Posted by: Jeanne at August 5, 2006 10:22 PM
#169,
It would be funny if the stakes were not so high.
If there was ever a time that this mess could be "turned around" that time passed long ago. *sigh)
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 10:30 PM
Israel takes aim at Lebanon's soft underbelly
Dahieh has been shelled repeatedly since the outbreak of the fighting, and on Thursday four missiles hit the area. The day before, Israeli warships in the Mediterranean Sea shelled Hezbollah's base in Dahieh. Part of the complex, a nine-story building, was hit again and again, even though it had been reduced to rubble five days previously. The building used to be the gym where Hezbollah members underwent physical training.
Almost all Dahieh's population has evacuated and all Hezbollah facilities in the neighborhood have already been destroyed. Tactically, of course, Israel aims to destroy all Hezbollah's assets and deprive it of bases and supplies. However, these Israeli strikes near the heart of Beirut have another significance.
"This neighborhood is the stronghold of Hezbollah and all the people living here are Hezbollah sympathizers," said a man who was acting as a guide for the media in Dahieh. "Israel expects that with such raids, Hezbollah will react, or at least its leadership would visit the neighborhood, and that's how Israel would get a picture of Hezbollah's presence in the heartland of Lebanon." The man did not identify himself, saying he was just "a neighbor".
Israel's desire to expand the war in Lebanon is apparent from other instances as well.
The flights of Israeli drones over Beirut had been irregular over the past two weeks. However, that changed on Wednesday as the drones flew for most of that day and into Thursday night. Sources close to the Lebanese intelligence services maintained that this new development had resulted in all Lebanese security forces being put on high alert as a large-scale conflict was now expected.
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"Evil when we are in its power is not felt as evil but as a necessity, or even a duty." ~ Simone Weil (1909 - 1943), Gravity and Grace, 1947
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 10:41 PM
Lieberman's Yale Roommate Would Vote for Lamont
Just so you know, there was no personal pique in this, no 40 years of bad blood or dirt between us. When Joe Lieberman and I were at Yale, we were roommates and good friends. I knew then that he was going to be "going places" in politics and, even though I'm much more liberal, I've always supported his runs for elective office -- until now.
His cheerleading for Bush and the War on Iraq, along with his Alito flip-flop, has finally made me speak out publicly. As I say in this letter
"Sometimes you have to consider what's best for your country rather than what's best for your friend...If I were living in Connecticut, I would vote for Ned Lamont."
Posted by: Jeanne at August 5, 2006 10:52 PM
Endless war?
America's military leaders know better than to get ahead of their civilian masters in speaking on critical policy matters. So when two top generals tell Congress that Iraq may be heading toward civil war, as they did this week, presumably the White House knew what was coming.
Perhaps that explains why Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Gen. John Abizaid, commander of U.S. forces in the Middle East, qualified their concerns by saying they think the situation can be salvaged. But it leaves open the questions troubling many Americans: How much longer must U.S. troops stay in Iraq? When, if ever, will Iraqis be able to take charge of a situation that seems to be spinning out of control?
Neither Pace nor Abizaid had the answers. Nor did Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, who, while calling the daily carnage in Iraq tragic, insisted that the Iraqi government and armed forces "are holding together." And Rumsfeld admonished senators criticizing what they called a "failed strategy": "We should consider how our words can be used by our deadly enemy."
Americans have been hearing such rhetoric since the early days of President Bush's global war on terrorism. But this is not 2001, and Americans are less willing to be patient as the American body count nears 2,600 in a conflict that did not have to become part of that war.
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People are waking up. It is a fact and it is too late. Too late to save America from a petty "Decider - Dictator" that thinks the constitution is just a GD piece of paper, too late for 2,600 of our brave and best, too late to save us from the rot from within this corrupt power structure of this misadministration.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 11:35 PM
What god? Young people reveal their secular side
FEWER than half of Australia's young people believe in a god and many believe there is little truth in religion, a new study has found.
The three-year national study, a joint project between Monash University, the Australian Catholic University and the Christian Research Association, found many young people followed a secular, rather than a religious path.
The study, The Spirit of Generation Y, found just 48 per cent of Generation Y, defined as those being born between 1976 and 1990, believed in a god.
Andrew Singleton, from Monash University, a co-author of the study, said they were surprised by the findings.
"It's well known that there has been a turn away from church attendance and participation in young people," he said. "But we thought there was going to be a move towards alternative spiritualities.
More HERE
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It only makes sense with the crud that passes for religion these days. . .
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 11:47 PM
07/27/06 "Al-Hayat" -- -- Did the American people see on CNN the child whose face was burnt by Israeli phosphorous bombs in Lebanon? Did they hear him screaming in pain at Sidon Hospital, with his mother falling to pieces in agony beside him because of the injury he sustained from the terrible bombs? How can the American people accept their elected President George W. Bush's rejection of a ceasefire?
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that's what they get for being jew-haters, right limerick?
Posted by: spy on this! at August 5, 2006 11:47 PM
How can the American people accept their elected President George W. Bush's rejection of a ceasefire?
how can the american people accept the decider's supply of phosphorous bombs to israel AND hez qaeda?
Posted by: spy on this! at August 5, 2006 11:51 PM
9/11 film criticised by families
"The best way for Oliver Stone and anyone in Hollywood to honour those who were killed in 9/11 is to make sure that it never happens again," said Lemack, whose mother Judy Larocque was a passenger on one of the hijacked flights.
"We asked him to show 15 or 30 second public service announcements and he declined. Paramount declined."
She wanted cinema-goers to be shown short films encouraging them to contact politicians to find out what had been done to prepare for future disasters, whether man-made or natural.
"I just wish that the movies would engage the American people, not just leave them feeling sad but instead feeling empowered," she added.
More HERE
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It does not sound like an outrageous request.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 5, 2006 11:56 PM
Engage the chattel? The cattle? You ARE joking, right?
Posted by: Saladin at August 6, 2006 12:20 AM
it's the american people that are incompetent not bushco.
Posted by: spy on this! at August 6, 2006 12:30 AM
Negotiate? With who? Obviously, Israel needs to get better at targeting rocket launch sites and weapons caches of Hizbollah, but who's kidding who. Iran was in a bind with the Nuke situation and already wanted to control Israel to give up further land ad nauseum, Syria wants Lebanon back, and Hizbollah leaders are just crazy...a ceasefire would be good, but complaining about neocons in this case is simply weak; once the neocons, it's simply Sunnis vs Shiites and Sunnis/Shiites vs Jews... So keep on complaining about neocon's corruptions (and they are), but the bigger picture obviously doesn't concern them.
Posted by: ryan at August 6, 2006 12:35 AM
Edwards wants immediate Iraq withdrawal
MOULTONBORO, N.H. --Former vice presidential candidate John Edwards, who is considering another run for the Democratic presidential nomination, said Saturday the United States should start pulling troops out of Iraq immediately.
The former senator from North Carolina told reporters America should "make it clear (to Iraqis) we are leaving, and the best way is to start leaving. We should take 40,000 combat troops out now."
Edwards, who has said he regretted his vote as a U.S. senator authorizing President Bush to invade Iraq, said he would ask the country's military leaders for a strategy "to have the (rest of the) troops out in roughly 12 to 18 months."
"There is no chance other countries in the world will help Iraq as long as we are an occupying force," he said.
On the Israeli-Hezbollah fighting in the Middle East, Edwards noted he was on the Israel-Lebanon border only three weeks ago, and said Israel "has absolutely the right to defend itself," though he said there "needs to be an international security force in southern Lebanon."
Edwards was making a number of stops Saturday in New Hampshire, which he has visited several times this year as he considers another run for the presidency.
He was Sen. John Kerry's running mate in 2004 after making his own bid for the Democratic nomination.
More HERE
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I wonder, if what Israel is doing is just defending itself what would be the definition of aggression? What would an Israeli offensive action look like?
Too bad for Edwards - one Bilderberg meeting and one little comment and he has lost my support. I really liked him in the primary - he has been going downhill since. (IMO)
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 12:36 AM
Cuba braces for invasion of exiles
CUBA was on alert last night for a possible invasion by Miami-based exiles, as US President George W. Bush called on Cubans to push for democracy with strongman Fidel Castro sidelined by surgery.
"I urge the Cuban people to work for democratic change on the island," Mr Bush said in his first statement since Dr Castro temporarily ceded power to his brother Raul while he underwent gastrointestinal surgery.
"We will support you in your effort to build a transitional government in Cuba committed to democracy, and we will take note of those, in the current Cuban regime, who obstruct your desire for a free Cuba."
The island has largely been calm since the power transfer. However, tension began to rise early yesterday with announcements in the official media of "combat alerts" and reservists being called to military duty.
"The means of combat are ready to defend us," announced the front page of the official newspaper Granma.
Other government-controlled news media called on Cubans to face "the threats of the empire and the terrorist mafia". The former refers to the US and the latter to the US-based Cuban exile community.
More HERE
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Absolute insanity.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 12:48 AM
#179
"It's the American people that are incompetent not bushco."
I would hope that we the people are not near that incompetent, don't care, general not concerned, that bu$hco has proven to be. I would like to think that we "the people" are engaged, concerned, and not always on vacation. I know that I have my opinions, right or wrong, I have them. I'm not sure about this bunch thatĠs in charge. I think they are just getting by. I think they are fucked up. And they have lost there way.
Posted by: uncledad at August 6, 2006 12:52 AM
DOODY'
Where you at?
Posted by: uncledad at August 6, 2006 12:54 AM
Who will vote for "Condi", Or who will vote for "Hill". I think if we vote for a women she should be a women still. Not a fascist, or a bull, she should be a stateswomen, or at least a good person. Enough of Condi, enough of Hill, If we want a women, lets go find one.
Posted by: uncledad at August 6, 2006 01:07 AM
I heard David Crosby in an interview on AAR - his comment was "We should have a woman president, no doubt, but it must be the right woman and neither mentioned qualify"
I think he is right.
A woman - yes but the right woman. And I have yet to see anybody that seems right without consideration of gender.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 01:12 AM
President Moyers
I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy, but I think Molly Ivins' suggestion ("Imagine: Wisdom in the White House," July 27) for Bill Moyers to be entered by the Democratic party in the 2008 presidential race is one of the best ideas I've heard in years. The presence of someone of his intellectual and moral caliber in the presidential contest would - in itself - be one of the best things that ever happened to U.S. politics - although I have no illusions that he would not be crucified.
Not tied to any particular political party, I would just like to see us begin to choose responsible representatives at all levels of government, especially in the presidency.
Most people don't need to be told that the world is looking down the barrel of the greatest clash of civilizations ever, from which there will be no winners. If ever there was a time for someone with integrity, understanding, insight and compassion to be president of the U.S.A., now may be our last opportunity.
I wish Rev. Moyers would seriously consider the proposition. He would have my unconditional support and best wishes - and my condolences if he should succumb to the challenge.
More HERE
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Just having an option of an adult would be nice. I bet the status quo would go all moon-batty.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 01:18 AM
The Pieces
Dear Cornposters:
I have tried to put the pieces together as to why Bush is the way he is. At a young age Bush would listen to his grandfather Prescott Bush tell stories about Hitler. These stories imprinted upon Bush's brain. He was fascinated by Hitler's life. From these stories Bush's goal has been his desire to emulate Hitler.
At age twelve Bush would put firecrackers in the mouth of a frog. He would light the firecracker; the firecracker would explode; and the frog would blow up. These experiences would not satisfy Bush. He wanted to go onto bigger explosions.
Now Bush has his finger on the nuclear bomb. His imprinted brain of explosions will not set him free. He is driven to continue the explosions. These thoughts are embedded in his brain forever. They will not go away and we will see how he must act out these future explosions. The nuclear bomb will be his biggest explosion that Bush ca initiate. Human death will be part of these explosions.
Sincerely,
Gerald
Posted by: Gerald at August 6, 2006 01:21 AM
One Ring to Rule Them
The wholesale destruction of all of Lebanon by Israel and the US Pentagon does not make any sense. Why bomb roads, roads, bridges, ports, fuel depots in Sunni and Christian areas that have nothing to do with Shiite Hizbullah in the deep south? And, why was Hizbullah's rocket capability so crucial that it provoked Israel to this orgy of destruction? Most of the rockets were small katyushas with limited range and were highly inaccurate. They were an annoyance in the Occupied Golan Heights, especially the Lebanese-owned Shebaa Farms area. Hizbullah had killed 6 Israeli civilians since 2000. For this you would destroy a whole country?
It doesn't make any sense.
Moreover, the Lebanese government elected last year was pro-American! Why risk causing it to fall by hitting the whole country so hard?
More HERE
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The linked piece is very interesting. Juan Cole has gained my respect and my ear. He is very concise and has some very solid insights.
The clip is weak compared to the whole piece. Well worth a read and a click through the links he provides.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 01:28 AM
it's simply Sunnis vs Shiites and Sunnis/Shiites vs Jews... So keep on complaining about neocon's corruptions (and they are), but the bigger picture obviously doesn't concern them.
the bigger picture doesn't concern the neocons?
who are you trying to fool?
dude the bigger picture IS the neocons.
they supply both sides. they promote hatred. they capitalize greatly when other people are fighting. they spread DU around as if it were bug poison even here in america and they have absconded with TRILLIONS of $$ that will have to be paid back by the taxpayers if our society is not to become one of masters and servants.
this is the glorious ownership society that we can look forward to under the neocon race.
Posted by: spy on this! at August 6, 2006 01:31 AM
"Those who know how to win are much more numerous than those who know how to make proper use of their victories." ~ Polybius (205 BC - 118 BC), History
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 01:32 AM
Lord, do not harden Pharaoh's heart
Lord, please do not harden Pharaoh's heart ...but break it open into humility and compassion. Amen.
Lord, each of us is often a Pharoah, demanding the slavery of those who share our domains. Today, many of your children in Israel have become Pharoahs to the children of Lebanon and Gaza and their hearts are wrapped in cordite. Break open our encased hearts, O Lord, and make them flow with compassion for all people, not merely our own people. We wish not the death of the Pharoahs, but that they might find their true life which is hidden in you.
"On a mountain road just south of here, a convoy of Lebanese villagers was fleeing north shortly after the war began. They had heard Israeli soldiers telling them to evacuate. Suddenly, a rocket struck a pickup truck full of people. Twenty-one people were killed, more than half of them children.
Israel said it believed the convoy was transporting rockets. The convoy had not notified Israel that it was going to make the trip. Those who survived said in interviews that they were simply following Israeli orders to flee the south as best they could."
On the day you hear my voice, harden not your hearts.
"In one of the worst atrocities since the war began, an Israeli air strike claimed the lives of over 33 farm workers, blown to pieces as they loaded plums and peaches onto trucks at a farm warehouse in the far north of the Bekaa Valley, near the Syrian border. At least another 20 people were wounded in the attack. Most of the victims were Syrian Kurds. They were taken across the border to Syrian hospitals, because previous bombing raids had demolished roads leading to hospitals in Lebanon itself."
"This massacre of farm workers followed airstrikes that systematically demolished bridges on the main coastal highway linking Beirut and the Lebanese south to the northern half of the country. Marking the first major attacks on the predominantly Christian North, these attacks served to cut the country in two and to cut off the sole remaining lifeline for relief supplies from abroad. At least five people were killed in these bombings, which were conducted during the morning rush hour, including motorists who were crushed to death as the bridges were bombed from beneath them."
And what is the reaction of the orthodox, conservative Christian who places the crucified one at the center of our religion? Adventus perhaps said it best, "Comfortable middle-class Xians don't need apocalyptic literature because life is just dandy, and promises to be better in the sweet bye and bye. If others are suffering, we (us middle-class Xians) are sweetly oblivious to it, or figure God will reward them in the after life (or, more darkly, that they deserve it. Everybody likes karma because it seems to work so well for them!) This world, in other words, is passing away, but since we find it a comfortable place, we don't mind waiting a while for the passing, and we know what comes next will be even better!" Here, indeed, is a religion that fits right in with a narcissistic ethic that focuses exclusively on me and my immediate circumstances, regarding everything else with varying degrees of unreality. But God has not called us to be as psychologically comfortable as possible, as satisfied with our life as we can possibly be - he has called us to bear not merely our own sorrows, but those of others as well.
"[The disciples] simply bear the suffering which comes their way as they try to follow Jesus Christ, and bear it for his sake. Sorrow cannot tire them or wear them down, it cannot embitter them or cause them to break down under the strain; far from it, for they bear their sorrow in the strength of him who bears them up, who bore the whole suffering of the world upon the cross. They stand as the bearers of sorrow in the fellowship of the Crucified: they stand as strangers in the world in the power of him who was such a stranger to the world that it crucified him." Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship.
Pray that the hearts of the Pharoahs in Washington and Tel Aviv will soon melt with the compassion and humility of our Lord.
Posted by: Gerald at August 6, 2006 01:40 AM
American Soldiers
2,910 American soldiers have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan for Bush and his lies.
18,500+ American soldiers have been maimed in Iraq and Afghanistan for Bush and his evil lies.
55,000+ of the 140,000 American soldiers are suffering from PTSD. Stress disorder has increased and the percentage is now around 40%.
Over 350,000+ Iraqis have been killed in Iraq since Bush declared shock and awe bombings on March 19, 2003.
Contamination from depleted uranium may have affected 125,000+ American soldiers and several million Iraqis.
Are you feeling more safe and secure with Bush in the WH and Cheney as his chief hatchet man overseeing Nazi America and her citizens?
Our military men and women are used as cannon fodder for a terrorist Nazi American government.
Our enemies are innovative and resourceful and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, AND NEITHER DO WE. George W. Bush, August 5, 2005
Rigged elections doom American democracy. American soldiers are being killed and maimed TO PROMOTE A NAZI AMERICAN STATE.
Henry Kissinger says that military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy. Does this mean our American soldiers are only cannon fodder to be murdered and maimed through our evil foreign policies and practices?
Nazi America is a mirror image of Hitler Bush.
Nazi Americans continually justify sin.
Nazi Americans are accomplices with Bush for his murders and war crimes.
The Bush Regime's war on terror has defeated truth and the constitutional protections of liberty in the United States. No conceivable number of Muslim terrorists could inflict comparable damage on America.
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."
~ Steven Weinberg (1933 - ) quoted in The New York Times, April 20, 1999
"What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?" ~ Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), "Non-Violence in Peace and War"
"It is characteristic of the military mentality that nonhuman factors (atom bombs, strategic bases, weapons of all sorts, the possession of raw materials, etc) are held essential, while the human being, his desires, and thoughts - in short, the psychological factors - are considered as unimportant and secondary...The individual is degraded...to "human materiel".
~ Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)
Posted by: Gerald at August 6, 2006 01:50 AM
"Those who know how to win are much more numerous than those who know how to make proper use of their victories."
~ Polybius (205 BC - 118 BC), History
and that's a very good point - hopefully some neocon journalist hacks read these comments and are embarrassed by the level of discourse exhibited by neocon supporters here.
Posted by: spy on this! at August 6, 2006 01:52 AM
193gerald good comment!
Posted by: spy on this! at August 6, 2006 01:55 AM
Our enemies are innovative and resourceful and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, AND NEITHER DO WE.
George W. Bush, August 5, 2005
Posted by: spy on this! at August 6, 2006 01:57 AM
Man marks the Earth with ruin, his control stops with the shore.
~19th century poet Lord Byron.
the ruin no longer stops with the shore.
way to go humans. morons.
Posted by: spy on this! at August 6, 2006 02:25 AM
"Those who know how to win are much more numerous than those who know how to make proper use of their victories." ~ Polybius (205 BC - 118 BC), History
Howdy Captin
Posted by: uncledad at August 6, 2006 02:58 AM
"An atheist is a man who has no invisible means of support." ~ John Buchan (1875 - 1940)
Posted by: uncledad at August 6, 2006 03:03 AM
http://www.uncledad.org/uploads/sweet_lil_66.mp3
Posted by: uncledad at August 6, 2006 03:07 AM
gerald
the brick testament
Posted by: spy on this! at August 6, 2006 03:15 AM
Should ALL those, I mean every single one, who have EVER spoof posted be banned?
If David made a law that says no spoof posting, and someone spoof posts you anyway, because they did it first, are you justified in also spoof posting?
Some of those who have been spoof posted seem to think so. I am sure you felt it was OK, because you were spoof posted first, allowing you to feel justified in also spoof posting.
Many here seem to feel this way.
Robbing a bank is wrong. If your bank is robbed anyway, are you then justified in robbing a bank?
If you believe one person behaving badly first, justifies your bad behavior, then logically, you must feel it is OK for Israel to pull out of Lebanon, and start blindly and randomly firing 200 rockets a day into Lebanon civilian areas, since 200 rockets a day were coming out of Lebanon into Israeli civilian areas first.
If this is not the way you feel, why did some of you spoof post, knowing David did not want it.
Yeah, I know, that logic thing really raises hell with Liberal irrational, emotional thinking, doesn't it?
Posted by: med at August 6, 2006 03:22 AM
spoof posting is lame
Posted by: spy on this! at August 6, 2006 03:26 AM
I had a normal conversation with some people that I know today, and I was shocked to hear from them that they thought the shelling in Lebanon was justified? Justified because of the rocket attacks in Israel. Ands of course all war seems justified on the surface, until you really look at the situation. Third world towel heads should not be deciding who we "Israel" go to war with. The fact is we "Israel" can shell them all we want, we can show "them" how tough we are, in fact we may even try to out Martyr those mother fuckers at some point (it's coming), but in the end didn't we try to win their "hearts and minds", didn't George and his buddies tell us that we were going to create a new "Middle East". Elections are coming up soon, what will you do? Stay the course?
Posted by: uncledad at August 6, 2006 03:26 AM
Spy on this, nothing is real on this site once the self eating trolls take over, I am waiting for them, one day we will have our dinner, me and the trolls, one day. I find that a quick flash deep fry, with a dash of lemon works well.
Posted by: uncledad at August 6, 2006 03:41 AM
But every troll post is another hit to "bushlies.com", the most visited independent political blogsite on the internets. Hey DOODY where you at? I'm waiting.
Posted by: uncledad at August 6, 2006 03:47 AM
but who cares right? they're just a bunch of jew-hating hez qaedas.
right BYOB?
Posted by: spy on this! at August 6, 2006 03:48 AM
it's too late in the day for them right now
Posted by: spy on this! at August 6, 2006 03:50 AM
"Jew hating" ? BYOB? too late?
What is your point? There is no point in hating "Jews", or "Christians", or "Muslims" for that matter, any hate based in religion is not real hate. Real hate exists outside and beyond religion. Hate based on religious beliefs is like kissing your sister. To feel true hate, you must get away from the religious familiarity. Faith based hate is Lame.
Posted by: uncledad at August 6, 2006 04:43 AM
all hate is lame. And it requires way too much effort.
Posted by: Saladin at August 6, 2006 09:39 AM
US DU Bunker Busters
Arrive In Israel
Press Release
8-5-6
The Israeli Committee for a Middle East Free From Atomic, Biological & Chemical Weapons PO Box 16202 Tel Aviv 61161 Israel
The Government of Israel has recently purchased from the United States bunker-busting bombs (GBU-28), for use in its war in Lebanon. These bombs contain depleted uranium - a carcinogenic substance that spreads in the form of a toxic and radioactive dust, which enters the lungs and bones and is especially harmful to babies and young children.
We call on the Government of Israel not to make use of these bombs.
This call is of special significance on August 6, the anniversary of the dropping of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima.
These days of war remind us of the dangers facing humanity, when the warring sides are equipped with nuclear weapons and radioactive materials.
The State of Israel must not resort to the use of weaponry that can cause environmental damage lasting hundreds of years, or any weapon of mass destruction.
We call on the Government Israel and all the governments in the Middle East to renounce weapons of mass destruction without delay!
A Middle East free from all weapons of mass destruction would be the best guarantee against their use.
Signed:
The Israeli Committee for a Middle East Free From Atomic, Biological & Chemical Weapons
For additional information you can call: + 972-3-5238584 Gideon Spiro
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These bunker busters are purchased with US tax dollars. If they use them against Lebanon we all become accomplices.
Posted by: Saladin at August 6, 2006 10:11 AM
Boy go away for awhile and the trolls go nuts, redalert posting as saladin, and the rest of the wingnuts spewing the same old nonsense. Folks, if you cannot get your head around the truth and figure out that we are in the mess we are in because of the current crop of criminals in washingto then nothing will convince you. Watch the next round of blather coming from DC. Iran is in the sights. Israel is a war criminal country and should be punished harshly, but probably won't be. The US is finished as a world power, but unfortunately that won't be evident to most of the brain dead trolls here. In the next five years the balance of power is going to shift to the east. The US is a debtor nation with a spent military force, we did it to ourselve by letting an incompetent get into the white house, no one to blame but the american citizen, and what a bunch of jerks they really are. Listen to some of them and you see that they have no thinking ability, spend some time with any of them if you can stand it and they become laughable. No knowledge of history, no knowledge of current affairs and for sure no knowledge of how to fight anymore. Violence for the sake of violence isn't a policy it is thuggery. Once the force is spent it won't be coming back any time soon. Dead soldiers piling up on the white house lawn, one day the survivors of this will realize that they were duped into sacrificing their most precious asset; their youth and vitality for the scum bags in power. Our resources are spent and nothing remains of the american manufacturing base, we are nothing more than a nation of whiners and cowards, sniveling cowards at that. Afraid of some unseen and silent enemy. Just waiting to attack us or so say the controllers in DC. Get a grip america there is nothing here worth attacking it all has moved to India. Burger flipping PhDs and other wasted talent, but does it change? Nope, just goes on the way it will until we are truly done. THird world will look good in a few years, get used to it. Trolls spew their blind crap out all the time, and spoof this site, why? Because there are a few posters that have good information and let others know, but is that accepted? No, again the trolls try to cover up anything that isn't accepted in their little minds. I guess that coming here and trying to convey any intelligent ideas or questions just gets you slammed with their bile. Not worth it, and if David can't keep this site moderated then why have it? Not worth the bandwidth that is for sure. HOpe that the future is as bad as I think it is going to be, because I want to see the show, then it will be worth it.
Posted by: What the F**k at August 6, 2006 10:18 AM
Dahr Jamail War Pictures, Photos and Images From Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and the Middle East
Black Beaches In Lebanon
By Dahr Jamail
8-4-6
Towards the beginning of the war, Israeli air strikes target five of the six oil storage tanks at the electrical plant in El-Jiye city. El-Jiya is a small coastal city roughly 20 miles south of Beirut. The prevailing winds blow towards the north, up the coast, so this translates into most of the coast of Lebanon north of that city now being smeared with 50,000 tons of fuel oil.
On Friday my photographer friend Raoul, a British photographer named Mark and I headed up to the coastal city of Byblos to see how the fishermen there and local tourist economy were holding up. I'd seen some of the footage of the oil choked boat harbor in Byblos, and wanted to see it for myself.
After a nice drive up the highway north to Byblos, (there is much more traffic on the roads now that most of the air strikes have let up in the area north of Beirut), we arrived to find the harbor nearly completely filled with oil
"What a disaster, this is heartbreaking," muttered Raoul while Mark and I stood by and nodded our disgust.
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Photos of the spill available at the above link. Disgusting is right.
Posted by: Saladin at August 6, 2006 10:23 AM
Condi: Civil War Is A Hypothetical
George Stephanopoulos just asked Condi Rice about the chances of civil war in Iraq and if Congress would have to reauthorize the war if that did happen.
Video - WMV
Video - QT
She responds with the typical party line of a civil war being a "hypothetical" that she would not address. Now is it really a hypothetical or would it be considered planning? In early 2003, when the final plans for the war were being drawn up, I guess a robust insurgency was also a hypothetical that they would not get into.
This just gives us a greater look into the workings of the administration, where they consider things that they donĠ´ want to happen as "hypothetical", and that line of thinking is what has put us in the situation we are today.
More HERE
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Hypothetical?
Greeting us with candy and flowers was a hypothetical. A democracy that is "friendly" to us, another hypothetical.
If you ask me, it is all hypothetical.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 11:29 AM
Exclusive: IraqÑPlans in Case of a Civil War
The administration hasn't made its definition of full-blown civil war explicit. But in March, when Iraq's former prime minister Ayad Allawi said the country was already fighting a civil war, Bush disagreed, noting the existence of Iraq's nonsectarian Army and government. If the country did someday meet the definition of civil war and the U.S. pulled out, military officials warn, the consequences would be disastrous. "All the neighboring powers would be drawn in," said one senior military official who has examined the scenarios and is not authorized to speak on the record. "It would become a regional war."
More HERE
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Hypothetically speaking?
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 11:34 AM
RNC Advises Candidates Not to Defend Bush
According to the St. Paul Pioneer Press, the RNC "opened its two-day annual summer meeting... hoping to outline a national strategy that will enable its candidates to swim against a tide of popular opinion flowing against Bush and the Republicans in Congress."
"The theme of the meeting... is 'Defining the difference,' and that means debating the Democrats on the issues and not defending Bush and the Republican Congress on the policies they have instituted in the past six years."
Instead, they hope GOP candidates can "localize" the elections.
More HERE
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They do not want their brethren to defend Bush and the do-nothing GOP congress. They have nothing to worry about.
The fix is in. A neocon super-majority will defy all logic and every poll (not already owned by the neocons).
Then what?
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 11:41 AM
RNC Advises Candidates Not to Defend Bush
According to the St. Paul Pioneer Press, the RNC "opened its two-day annual summer meeting... hoping to outline a national strategy that will enable its candidates to swim against a tide of popular opinion flowing against Bush and the Republicans in Congress."
"The theme of the meeting... is 'Defining the difference,' and that means debating the Democrats on the issues and not defending Bush and the Republican Congress on the policies they have instituted in the past six years."
Instead, they hope GOP candidates can "localize" the elections.
More HERE
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They do not want their brethren to defend Bush and the do-nothing GOP congress. They have nothing to worry about.
The fix is in. A neocon super-majority will defy all logic and every poll (not already owned by the neocons).
Then what?
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 11:44 AM
Please take a few moments to reflect on this sentence by Mother Teresa. This sentence is very profound. IF WE HAVE NO PEACE, IT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT WE BELONG TO EACH OTHER.
Posted by: Gerald at August 6, 2006 12:16 PM
uncledad 209
"Jew hating" ? BYOB? too late? What is your point?
my point was that a poster named BYOB among others (some wrote limericks) has deemed that some of us are jew-haters because of our criticism of israeli behavior.
Posted by: spy on this! at August 6, 2006 12:16 PM
Lieberman and the Secret Chamber
Big Business's Favorite Senator East of the Mississippi
Senator Lieberman is the Chamber's favorite Democratic Senator east of the Mississippi. He voted with them for the notorious Cheney/Exxon energy bill, prompting one political observer to say "he cannot be both against global warming and for this energy bill."
He supports every globalizing, outsourcing, pull-down trade agreement - - NAFTA, WTO and CAFTA - - notwithstanding their rejection of labor, consumer and environmental safeguards for the American people.
Senator Lieberman is waffling on asbestos legislation (pending) that would drastically reduce the financial liability of corporations for this long epidemic of cancer and lung disease and would create a large corporate bailout of liability, with costs to the taxpayers.
In 1998, he voted to give immunity to the tobacco industry in return for weak FDA regulatory authority. Eleven years ago he backed one of the Chamber's top objectives - - weakening the litigation rights of defrauded investors and shielding accounting and law firms from proper accountability. Then he voted to over-ride President Clinton's veto of the bill.
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It seems like the case with Joe will decide whether it is the people or big business that are stealing elections.
I know which one I will be betting on.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 12:31 PM
Civil war risk in Iraq rises, U.S. commander says
The commander of U.S. forces in the Middle East has bluntly warned a Senate committee that sectarian violence in Iraq, especially in Baghdad, had grown so severe that the country could slide toward civil war.
The commander, General John Abizaid, also acknowledged Thursday that because the security situation remained so unstable, significant reductions in U.S. forces were unlikely before the end of this year.
Asked by Senator Carl Levin of Michigan, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee, whether Iraq risked falling into civil war, Abizaid replied, "I believe that the sectarian violence is probably as bad as I've seen it, in Baghdad in particular, and that if not stopped, it is possible that Iraq could move towards civil war." But, he later added, he did not think civil war was probable.
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The civil war will not officially start until the day after the neocons steal the midterms.
Too obvious.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 12:47 PM
The fact that humans have survived as a species as long as we have is nearly certain evidence of some higher power or deity.
Why is peaceful coexistence such a struggle? Is war and death such a valuable prize? The idea that we collectively discount that which we simultaneously insist we are protecting and defending is the very definition of insanity.
It is no different from corporate interests that kill for profit (cigarettes, liquor, pesticides, petrochemicals, etc.)
What difference does it make whether those discounting life are the "Nation state" the "military state" or the "corporate state"?
The dark "cost to benefit" formula is as cynical no matter who does the calculating. They do not value life - they set its price.
Whether a bullet or a back alley abortion, the victims are always guilty of bringing it upon themselves. The only dastardly killing is from terrorists because we have never done anything to bring those attacks upon ourselves. We are the perfect victim - blameless and undeserving. Faultless in our ways. That also makes overreacting justified.
We know we are guilty when we have to whitewash our language with terms like "collateral damage" and invent bizarre stories about the animals we and our allies are killing are using babies as shields, that farm workers are a threat, that dropping flyers is fair notice to the destruction of your home.
We do this to ourselves. We do this against the peace of all people. We do this to save ourselves from ourselves?
"It is characteristic of the military mentality that nonhuman factors (atom bombs, strategic bases, weapons of all sorts, the possession of raw materials, etc) are held essential, while the human being, his desires, and thoughts - in short, the psychological factors - are considered as unimportant and secondary...The individual is degraded...to "human materiel".
~ Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 12:54 PM
Nice one, George
Comment is free
Those of us who have long been supporters of Armageddon have naturally been greatly cheered by way the president of the United States has been embracing our cause. Our desire to bring chaos, death and destruction to a greater swathe of humanity has, in the past, often been frustrated by peacemakers and do-gooders of all shades of the political spectrum.
For too long, our aspirations have been derided and criticised. In fact, to be blunt, for more than two millennia we have had to put up with opprobrium and vilification, but now all that will be a thing of the past, for in George Bush we have found an ally - indeed, we have found a leader. A man who is prepared to place himself at the head of the forces of destruction and misery, and who is unafraid of the opinion of the rest of the world.
George Bush has finally put Armageddon firmly on the political agenda, and it is likely to stay there for the foreseeable future.
This means that we Armageddonists need keep to the shadows no longer. Bush and his colleagues in the White House have given us credibility and respectability. They have made our goal their goal, and death, disease, war and famine are now the most likely fate for more people in the Middle East than we Armageddonists had ever dared to hope for.
What is also particularly gratifying - after this long wait - is that George could not have chosen a better spot on Earth for the "End of Things" to begin, nor a more appropriate agent than Israel to get the ball rolling.
After all "Armageddon" is a Hebrew word. It has come to signify "the end of times" or the arrival of catastrophic events, involving huge loss of life. In its origins, however, Har-Mageddon meant simply "the mountain of Megiddo" - Megiddo being a site in Israel close to the border with Lebanon.
It is certainly a place that has seen a lot of catastrophe in its time. Although there has not been a city at Megiddo for over 2,000 years, there are, nevertheless the remains of more than 20 different cities on the site, dating from 3,000 BC. That's an awful lot of human death and destruction.
So it's the perfect place for George to unleash the horsemen of the Apocalypse, and, as Armageddonists, we applaud him. The current assault on Lebanese civilians is sure to swell the ranks of would-be terrorists beyond even our wildest dreams, spreading the violence and mayhem not only throughout the Middle East but into the homelands of America and Britain.
As for the country of Lebanon itself, we Armageddonists predict that, like Iraq, it will sink into a morass of sectarian violence that will fill morgues of the future that have not yet been built. But more than that, we Armegeddonists confidently look forward to chaos and havoc quickly getting out of hand and beyond the control of those who started the conflict. It's all part of the fun.
So Armageddonists of the world! Let us unite in praise of George Bush, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld. Let us thank these men for bringing our dreams of violence and disorder to fruition.
Let us hope that whatever half-baked notions fill what passes for their minds, they will continue on this irreversible path to perdition from which the whole world recoils, but seems powerless to stop.
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Hallelujah. Praise the Lord and pass the DU bullets.
Posted by: Saladin at August 6, 2006 12:59 PM
Colors
Dear Cornposters:
Most people who can see do not even take the time for colors. Colors are an everyday experience and so it becomes second nature to us. In the summer there is green for the trees and the grass.
With human beings we have the colors white, black, brown, red, and yellow. Even organizations have colors, such as Gold Star Families for Peace and Code Pink.
I would like to introduce you to the color blue. Blue is Mary's color. Mary is the mother of Jesus. She has a special relationship with God. God will never fail to grant a request from Mary. God has even said that if the world prayed to Mary, there would be peace.
I am not a person who desires for any person to join or enlist into the military service because the military service teaches a person to hate and murder another human being. Yet, I am asking you to join and enlist with me into Mary's blue army for peace. Let us pray for peace as part of Mary's blue army! You can be one of the FEW, the PROUD, and a BLUE ARMY MEMBER FOR PEACE.
Sincerely,
Gerald
Posted by: Gerald at August 6, 2006 01:00 PM
219 spy on this
(some wrote limericks) some of us are jew-haters because of our criticism of israeli behavior.
So, the limerick writers are correct.
You hate Jews.
We already know that, as well as do you.
Are you trying to make ANOTHER point?
Posted by: Lisa at August 6, 2006 01:04 PM
Gerald 224
You can be one of the FEW, the PROUD, and a BLUE ARMY MEMBER FOR PEACE.
Jesus fucken Christ Gerald, That is just plain STUPID. Go back to the loony bin and eat more meds.
Posted by: Lisa at August 6, 2006 01:10 PM
"Like an unchecked cancer, hate corrodes the personality and eats away its vital unity. Hate destroys a man's sense of values and his objectivity. It causes him to describe the beautiful as ugly and the ugly as beautiful, and to confuse the true with the false and the false with the true." ~ Martin Luther King Jr. (1929 - 1968)
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 01:12 PM
MAKE NO MISTAKE! THE REPUGNANTS WILL STEAL THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS. THE DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO FIND OUT WHAT A BACK OF THE SHED HOUSE WHIPPING REALLY IS. BRACE YOURSELF FOR A SLAUGHTER! THE DEMOCRATS ARE TOO LITTLE TOO LATE!
The slaughter is created by two factors - rigged elections and a majority of hateful Americans. Americans have become a pro-murder people!!!
Posted by: Gerald at August 6, 2006 01:20 PM
Please join with me to be one of the FEW, the PROUD and a BLUE ARMY MEMBER FOR PEACE!!!
Peace needs our prayers!!!
Posted by: Gerald at August 6, 2006 01:26 PM
My day is made. I got a Nazi troll pissed off!!!
Posted by: Gerald at August 6, 2006 01:30 PM
Is Israel Good for the Jews?
American Jewish citizens can be sure that a large number of Jewish organizations will claim to speak in our name--without being asked to do so. We can also be sure that should we dissent from the US Jewish community's central item of faith, that Israel can do no wrong, we will be pilloried. When our gentile fellow citizens express doubt, they are accused of anti-Semitism. Those of us who are Jewish are taxed with self-hatred.
Is it the supreme duty of American Jews to use our considerable influence to align US policy with that of Israel? There is, the Jewish organizations tell us, no conflict of loyalties and responsibilities; the two nations have common values and common ends. The assertion is nonsensical, but its repetition does negate one stereotype about Jews, our supposed intelligence. It is often accompanied by the claim that there is no Israel lobby, only ordinary US citizens spontaneously expressing opinions to their elected representatives and government. The Israel lobby's successful campaign, coordinated with the Israeli Embassy, to persuade Congress to back the White House decision to give Israel a free field of fire in Lebanon can be read as an unintended postscript to another campaign: This spring professors John Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago and Stephen Walt of Harvard published in The London Review of Books and as a paper of the Kennedy School of Government an analysis of the "stranglehold" on US policy exerted by Israel's unconditional backers. Those backers responded with loud denunciations of the authors as malevolently anti-Semitic or (in the most benign of their criticisms) intellectually incompetent.
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All of these anti-Semite - Semites?
Seems very odd that all of the sudden everybody is a Jew-hater to the trolls?
Blind and stupid.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 01:32 PM
Gerald 224
You can be one of the FEW, the PROUD, and a BLUE ARMY MEMBER FOR PEACE.
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Peace needs our prayers!!!
Jesus fucken Christ Gerald, That is just plain STUPID. Go back to the loony bin and eat more meds and slit your wrists.
You hate America so much, go meet Jesus, soon, please, for Christ's sake, go, quickly, you are a fungus among us.
Posted by: Lisa at August 6, 2006 01:34 PM
GOP Chair Says Democrats Weak on Terror
BLOOMINGTON, Minn. (AP) -- The head of the Republican Party accused Democrats of being willing to surrender the tools necessary to combat terrorism as the GOP tries to capitalize on its national security advantage in a tough election year.
Faced with President Bush's low approval ratings and diminishing support for the Iraq war, the Republican strategy is to make the war on terrorism a central campaign issue and argue that Democrats hold a pre-Sept. 11 view of the world.
Ken Mehlman, the chairman of the Republican National Committee, stressed that argument in a speech Friday at the organization's two-day summer meeting, similar to points made by White House adviser Karl Rove in January.
"America faces a critical question," Mehlman said in his prepared text. "Will we elect leaders who recognize we're at war and want to use every tool to win it, or politicians who would surrender important tools we need to win?"
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Fear is a powerful narcotic. Just like other drugs people build up a resistance. Those addicted to fear need more and in larger doses to achieve their previous highs. Those not addicted see right through the lies. As the fearmongers try to satisfy the addicts their deceptions become more and more obvious.
It is uplifting to know I am no rocket scientists, there are a lot of people smarter than I. That means a lot of people already see the fear as the device it is.
The neocons will say THIS is the reason everybody voted for neocons. The old "When people pulled the lever" BS. How should the world respond?
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 01:47 PM
Way to go Gerald, ever notice that the trolls have the same e mail address? Just sayin. Nothing they can say will change the truth, if they don't like it here, then enlist, there is an IED with your name on it, support your idiot president with your body parts and then come home and see how much support you get. Jerks!!
Posted by: What the F**k at August 6, 2006 01:58 PM
U.S., France agree on truce pact
U.N. draft resolution avoids call for Israeli withdrawal
The United States and France reached agreement yesterday on a draft Security Council resolution calling for "full cessation of hostilities" between Israel and Hezbollah and outlining initial steps to end their 25-day conflict.
But senior Lebanese and Hezbollah officials immediately challenged the terms, while U.N. and European officials said major changes would almost certainty be needed before it is put to a vote this week.
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Amazing! The US and France have come to an agreement? I bet Israel might even pretend to agree. That will sure make it look like Lebanon/Hezbollah are the odd men out? This is a device to increase military action not to reduce it.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 01:59 PM
Vets in Buffalo Need Your Help
The Buffalo VA Hospital, like many veteransĠ hospitals, is missing crucial supplies and equipment, including everything from toothpaste to wheelchairs not to mention goods that would make vetsĠ hospital stays more pleasant, like newspaper and magazine subscriptions. You can help.
IAVA is working in Washington to improve VA funding, but you can act now to help get these wounded veterans the support they deserve.
1) Donate now. All donations will go directly to buy the items on the Buffalo VA Hospital wishlist !
2) Stop by our drive. You can donate any item on the VA wishlist . Iraq vet and IAVA representative Jeremy Lewis will be running our table, collecting your donations or checks. Here are the details:
VA Hospital Equipment Drive
August 11th (1-5pm)
August 12th (1-6pm)
MODA
616 Elmwood Avenue Buffalo, NY
3) Tell Your Friends. Send this email to your friends and let them know about the fundraiser. Ask them if they can contribute materials or pledge financial support. If you can collect their materials and donations in advance, let them know.
4) Interested to get more involved? If youĠ²e willing to help Jeremy man the table or drop off materials at the hospital, please send him an email and let him know. You can also spread the word using this flier .
On behalf of all Buffalo-area Iraq and Afghanistan vets, thank you for your support.
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Hard to believe the SUPPORTERS of military action choose to ignore the consequences. Here is an idea: if you support war pony up for the injured vets. That should be easy enough for all armchair generals and civilian warmongers.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 02:05 PM
#234 WTF, if the Nazi trolls loved Bush, why haven't they enlisted to fight in his endless wars?
Posted by: Gerald at August 6, 2006 02:16 PM
Point Blank War Profits
"I've told many family I've met with, we're doing everything we possibly can to protect your loved ones." George W. Bush, December 2004
The history of the Point Blank Interceptor OTV body armor vest and the company that manufactures it is a shameful tale of the state of war profiteering in the Rumsfeld age.
The Interceptor OTV is the body armor jacket recently revealed by Defense Watch to have been identified by a U.S. Marine Corps forensics report as being responsible for the deaths of "as many as 42 percent of Marines who died from isolated torso injuries." The Point Blank vest is not only inferior in design--it leaves the shoulders and upper arms unprotected--it was fielded despite that fact that it did not pass tests of its designed capabilities.
As The Army Times reported, senior officers in the Marine Corps Systems Command knew that and bought and fielded the Point Blank body armor anyway, without telling commanders in the field about the vests' shortcomings.
And the company that manufactured the vests made a whole lot of money.
[snip]
In 2004, DHB industries Point Blank Body Armor chairman David H. Brooks earned $70 million plus $180 million in company stock sales.
In December of 2005, Brooks reportedly spent $10 million on his daughter's bat mitzvah party. Entertainment was provided by Tom Petty, Aerosmith, and 50 Cent.
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Worse yet, there have been "bake sales for body armor"?
We have a trillion dollar military and vets wives have bake sales for body armor. Maybe I am too old fashioned but that really chaps my hide.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 02:19 PM
Tom Friedman's Walter Cronkite moment
We can here spare ourselves a tour of this lethal Bush idiocy. That private funds are now being raised to pay for helmets and body armor to be worn by US troops is about all that need be said.
Since Vietnam, pro-peace bumper stickers have proclaimed the hope that the Pentagon would someday have to be funded with a bake sale. Under Bush/Halliburton, that day has finally come, tragically, for those abused and exploited troops the GOP has thrown so cynically into the abyss.
Now Friedman has reluctantly recognized that the US Commander-In-Chief's prime idea of a foreign policy initiative is to foist a ghastly backrub on a horrified German Prime Minister. George W. Bush is clearly incapable of the complex thought needed to win a war anywhere at any time, let alone in the infinitely complex Middle East.
Thus, says Friedman, "it is now obvious that we are not midwifing democracy in Iraq. We are baby-sitting a civil war."
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More of the same. The real question is what to do about it?
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 02:25 PM
Bring It On!
Unlike the magnets all proceeds from the sale of this product will be donated to Bake Sales for Body Armor for them to buy body armor for the troops.
"How many bullets has your magnet stopped?"
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Support the troops, save lives, provide the funds for body armor.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 02:30 PM
Websites and Articles
There are many great websites with articles to read. Here are some websites to view for: 8-6-06.
The Smirking Chimp
Truthout
BuzzFlash
All three websites have articles of interest.
Posted by: Gerald at August 6, 2006 02:33 PM
In pictures: Mid-East bloodshed goes on
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 02:37 PM
ISRAEL HAS FORGOTTEN THE PROMISE TO BE A LIGHT TO THE NATIONS!!!
Posted by: Gerald at August 6, 2006 02:38 PM
Gerald and capt,
If you were not American citizens, but were in Saddam's Iraq, or Iran, AlQuaeda, Hizbollah, Hamas, Cuba or Syria, do you think you would be allowed to speak of the leaders the way President Bush ALLOWS you to speak of him here in America?
He does not have to allow you, by his grace, to live. He could end it if he wanted. NO ONE would know, NO ONE WOULD CARE.
He could be like Hitler or Saddam if he chose. HE DOES NOT choose to be like them. Just because you are to stupid to see that, does not mean it is not true.
President Bush is one of the world's Greatest leaders ever, and has the backing to be like you say he is.
You should fall to your knees and give thanks he understands how DELUSION you truly are.
The leaders of the places listed bove would not be so kind as to allow you to go on.
You should go to one of those wonderful places and try being a traitor there, and see what happens.
I think you are under the false impression that there may be something else more important than protecting your family.
Gerald and capt, you truly are a traitors to America, no matter what ridiculous rationale you wrap yourselves in to justify your cowardly attack on America, the American military and our great President.
GERALD & CAPT, If President were like Hitler, and you said those kinds of things about Hitler, would Hitler allow you live?
If President were like Saddam, and you said those kinds of things about Saddam, would Saddam allow you live?
If President were like the leaders of Iran, AlQuaeda, Hizbollah, Hamas, Cuba or Syria, and you said those kinds of things about them, would they allow you to live?
Gerald and capt, You are very lucky guys to have the GREAT President Bush as your leader.
Posted by: lip at August 6, 2006 03:06 PM
"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." ~ Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 03:14 PM
Trollism is very liberated from anything factual, always has been.
How free one must be to deny every fact while living in a fantasy world where Bush never lied and the facts are just inconvenient afterthoughts to their manufactured "neo" reality.
The superficiality and naŻvetİ? would be entertaining from a child's point of view but as an adult it is less than engaging and seems very simple-minded as well as completely uninformed.
"Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege." ~ Unknown
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 03:20 PM
capt,
So, obviously, since you avoided the question of, " would Hitler or Saddam allow you to speak that way and live " , you admit you have no answer, and agree I am right about the Great President Bush, and you being cowardly traitors.
Posted by: lip at August 6, 2006 03:21 PM
capt
"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." ~ Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
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Thank you for at least giving me the reason you did not open your mouth.
Now I understand your reasoning for avoiding opening your mouth and speaking to my question.
Posted by: lip at August 6, 2006 03:28 PM
How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power
Rumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal how repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today's president
George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.
The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.
His business dealings, which continued until his company's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.
The evidence has also prompted one former US Nazi war crimes prosecutor to argue that the late senator's action should have been grounds for prosecution for giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
More HERE
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The Guardian UK is a pretty solid source for news, eh?
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 03:29 PM
capt
The post of yours at 249 has, what, to do with my questions?
If President were like Hitler, and you said those kinds of things about Hitler, would Hitler allow you live?
If President were like Saddam, and you said those kinds of things about Saddam, would Saddam allow you live?
If President were like the leaders of Iran, AlQuaeda, Hizbollah, Hamas, Cuba or Syria, and you said those kinds of things about them, would they allow you to live?
Posted by: lip at August 6, 2006 03:37 PM
Capt,
You are saying Grandfather Bush was like John Kerry?
Posted by: all at August 6, 2006 03:41 PM
Fed admits US recession on cards
The United States faces almost a 40 per cent chance of slipping into recession in the next 12 months, according to the Federal Reserve's own market model.
As Fed chairman Ben Bernanke prepares to decide whether to raise American interest rates for the 18th time on Tuesday, bond prices and the high level of borrowing costs are now showing a 38 per cent chance of recession, according to a model published by Fed economist Jonathan Wright earlier this year.
After official payroll figures released on Friday showed that the economy created fewer jobs than expected last month, Wall Street began predicting Bernanke would halt the Fed's rate-hiking campaign this week. But some economists believe the central bank has already gone too far.
'They've hiked far too much,' said Ian Shepherdson of High Frequency Economics. 'The Fed has a long and inglorious history of raising rates too far, and cutting them too far.' He expects growth in the world's largest economy to have ground to a halt by the end of the year, even if Bernanke chooses to leave rates unchanged this week.
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And I thought the economy was doing so swell?
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 03:43 PM
"Bush - Nazi Dealings Continued Until 1951" - Federal Documents
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The records also show that Bush and the Harrimans conducted business after the war with related concerns doing business in or moving assets into Switzerland, Panama, Argentina and Brazil - all critical outposts for the flight of Nazi capital after Germany's surrender in 1945. Fritz Thyssen died in Argentina in 1951.
One of the final seizures, in October 1950, concerned the U.S. assets of a Nazi baroness named Theresia Maria Ida Beneditka Huberta Stanislava Martina von Schwarzenberg, who also used two shorter aliases. Brown Brothers Harriman, where Prescott Bush and the Harrimans were partners, attempted to convince government investigators that the baroness had been a victim of Nazi persecution and therefore should be allowed to maintain her assets.
"It appears, rather, that the subject was a member of the Nazi party," government investigators concluded.
At the same time the last Brown Brothers Harriman client assets were seized, Prescott Bush announced his Senate campaign that led to his election in 1952.
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Things have not changed much in the Bush crime family.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 03:48 PM
Standing on the Dead
In April of 2002, George W. Bush -- standing literally on the bones of the men who fell at Normandy beachhead in mortal combat with that very same Nazi army -- delivered his Memorial Day address. He said, in part, "This is a day our country has set apart to remember what was gained in our wars, and all that was lost."
Let us remember.
As the German army came crashing into Poland, spreading death and destruction in its path, Prescott Bush continued aiding the Nazis.
As German tanks rolled through the Ardennes Forest and into Paris, Prescott Bush continued aiding the Nazis.
As Allied forces fighting to defend France were forced literally into the sea at Dunkirk by the German Army, Prescott Bush continued aiding the Nazis.
As German war planes rained bombs down on London, killing 50 thousand English men, women and children, Prescott Bush continued aiding the Nazis.
As millions died at the hands of the most ruthless and violent organization the world has ever known, Prescott Bush continued aiding them.
And of course, as Hitler and the Nazis planned and carried out the extermination of Europe's Jews, Prescott Bush was an eager and active partner.
When did Bush stop? When we made him stop.
In this case, George W. Bush won't have to worry about the US Government shutting him down. That's been taken care of -- he is the US Government.
More HERE
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Who will stop the insanity?
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 03:53 PM
capt,
Since neither you nor I nor anyone else in the world has proof Grandfather Bush ever did what some nuts allege,
even if it were true, maybe that is the reason both President Bush and his father decided to devote their lives to so honorably serve the public and make sure no dictatorships ever survive in the world again.
For giving his son and grand son the inspiration and determination to help the world, I guess we should be thanking Grandfather Bush, if those false allegations would have been true.
Posted by: all at August 6, 2006 03:54 PM
Bush angers the governors because he wants to federalize the national guard so he can remove any possible civil war in America when he cancels the 2008 elections and declares himself the supreme fuehrer of the devil incarnate nation.
Bush does keep my constitution healthy by affording me the opportunity to puke from time to time with his asinine Bushisms.
Posted by: Gerald at August 6, 2006 03:55 PM
Gerald,
If you are not a gutless cowardly traitor, answer the questions at post 250
Posted by: lip at August 6, 2006 04:00 PM
#253, Prescott Bush was guilty of treason and Bunnypants is guilty of murders and war crimes. The Bush family is nothing more than a mob family with corrupt values.
Posted by: Gerald at August 6, 2006 04:01 PM
Gerald,
If you are a cowardly, gutless traitor, do not respond, or avoid the questions on your next post.
Posted by: lip at August 6, 2006 04:02 PM
capt, I find it difficult to answer any Nazi trolls' questions with my continuous upchucking from their bland comments.
Posted by: Gerald at August 6, 2006 04:04 PM
#255 All. Kevin Phillips ( Republican) describes the Bush family crimes in his book " The Amercian Dynasty".
This book is incredibly informative. Kevin has lots of footnotes.
Go read the interview with Kevin at Buzzflash
January 7, Kevin Phillips, Author of "American Dynasty: Aristocracy, Fortune and the Politics of Deceit in the House of Bush"
A BUZZFLASH INTERVIEW
"Now what I get a sense of from all of this -- and then topped obviously by spending all the money in 2000 to basically buy the election -- is that this is not a family that has a particularly strong commitment to American democracy. Its sense of how to win elections comes out of a CIA manual, not out of the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution." -- Kevin Phillips
Hey, you would expect this kind of talk from a lefty, right. But Kevin Phillips ain't no lefty. He's a former Nixon staffer and authored "The Emerging Republican Majority" back then. He hasn't had any transformation that has turned him into a -- God Forbid! -- Democrat. As he tells BuzzFlash, he voted for Reagan twice and would have eagerly voted for John McCain.
He hasn't stopped being Republican. It's just that he's appalled at what the Republican Party has become under the Bush dynasty.
In "American Dynasty," Phillips weaves evidence of the Bush family's dynastic sense of entitlement -- and corruption -- throughout this erudite book.
"Few have looked at the facts of the family's rise, but just as important, commentators have neglected the thread -- not the mere occasion -- of special interests, biases, scandals (especially those related to arms dealing), and blatant business cronyism" Phillips writes in his preface. "The evidence that accumulates over four generations [of the Bush family dynasty] is really quite damning."
"Three generations of immersion in the culture of secrecy...deceit and disinformation have become Bush political hallmarks," Phillips notes.
Entitlement, elitism, privilege, secrecy, mediocrity, corruption, financial cronyism, bailouts of family failures by the taxpayers -- these are some of the true characteristics of the Bush Dynasty, according to Phillips.
To Phillips, however, the greatest threat to America posed by the Bush dynasty is not its inherent unfitness to rule. What most offends and angers Phillips is the threat that the imposition of the Bush dynasty on America poses to democracy itself. The American rebellion in 1776 represented the creation of a nation built on the foundations of a government elected by the people, not determined by the restoration to power of corrupt bloodlines.
No book makes a stronger case against an American sitting in the White House who believes that he is in power because of hereditary entitlement and divine choice. Patriots rebelled against King George in 1776. Phillips notes that Americans have the opportunity to dethrone the Bush dynasty at the polls in 2004.
That is if the electronic software is not rigged in favor of the monarchy.
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 04:07 PM
All Lip... Here is a challenge. I will read American Dynasty once again if you read it for the first time. All of the Corn Folks and trolls alike could read American Dynasty together and then have a solid debate on line.
A book club discussion (on Corn world) with folks with seriously opposing views.
Posted by: Kathleen at August 6, 2006 04:13 PM
260
capt, I find it difficult to answer any Nazi trolls' questions with my continuous upchucking from their bland comments.
TRANSLATION:
Help capt, I don't know what lie to tell next.
At least by avoiding the question, Gerald admits he a cowardly, gutless traitor
GERALD, again I say:
If you are a cowardly, gutless traitor, do not respond, or avoid the questions on your next post.
If you are not a cowardly, gutless traitor, simply answer the questions.
Posted by: lip at August 6, 2006 04:15 PM
#233 Capt. Convenient for the Republicans to forget that 9/11 happenned under the Bush administrations watch. They are still asleep at the wheel, and we are going over the cliff
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 04:16 PM
Kathleen,
as soon as you answer the questions I posed first, we can move on the subject you brought up to avoid my questions.
Posted by: lip at August 6, 2006 04:18 PM
The Bush Hitler Thing
[..]
So far, I've seen nothing to eliminate the possibility that Bush is on the same course as Hitler. And I've seen far too many analogies to dismiss the possibility. The propaganda. The lies. The rhetoric. The nationalism. The flag waving. The pretext of 'preventive war'. The flaunting of international law and international standards of justice. The disappearances of 'undesirable' aliens. The threats against protesters. The invasion of a non-threatening sovereign nation. The occupation of a hostile country. The promises of prosperity and security. The spying on ordinary citizens. The incitement to spy on one's neighbors - and report them to the government. The arrogant triumphant pride in military conquest. The honoring of soldiers. The tributes to 'fallen warriors. The diversion of money to the military. The demonization of government appointed 'enemies'. The establishment of 'Homeland Security'. The dehumanization of 'foreigners'. The total lack of interest in the victims of government policy. The incarceration of the poor and mentally ill. The growing prosperity from military ventures. The illusion of 'goodness' and primacy. The new einsatzgrupen forces. Assassination teams. Closed extralegal internment camps. The militarization of domestic police. Media blackout of non-approved issues. Blacklisting of protesters - including the no-fly lists and photographing dissenters at rallies.
There isn't much doubt in my mind - anyone who compares the history of Hitler's rise to power and the progression of recent events in the US cannot avoid the parallels. It's incontrovertible. Is Bush another Hitler? Maybe not, but with each incriminating event, the parallel grows -it certainly cannot be dismissed. There's too much evidence already. Just as Hitler used American tactics to plan and execute his reign, it looks as if Karl Rove is reading Hitler's playbook to plan world domination - and that is the stated intent of both. From the Reichstag fire to the landing at Nuremberg to the motto of "Gott Mit Uns" to the unprovoked invasion and occupation of Iraq to the insistence that peace was the ultimate goal, the line is unbroken and unwavering.
I'm afraid now, that what may still come to pass is a reign far more savage and barbaric than that of the Nazis. Already, appeasement has been fruitless - it only encourages the brazen to escalate their arrogance and braggadocio. Americans support Bush - by a generous majority - and mass media sings his praises while indicting his detractors - or silencing their opinions completely. The American people seem to care only about the domestic economic situation - and even in that, they are in complete denial. They don't want to hear about Iraq, and Afghanistan is already forgotten. Even the Democratic opposition supports the occupation of Iraq. Everyone seems to agree that Saddam Hussein deserves to be executed -with or without a trial. 'Visitors' are fingerprinted. Guilty until proven innocent. Snipers are on New York City rooftops. When do the Stryker teams start appearing on American streets? They're perfectly suited for 'Homeland Security' - and they've had a trial run in Iraq. The Constitution has been suspended - until further notice. Dick Cheney just mentioned it may be for decades - even a generation, as Rice asserts as well. Is this the start of the 1000 year reign of this new collection of thugs? So it would seem.
I can only hope that in the coming year there will be some sign - some hint - that we are not becoming that which we abhor. The Theory of the Grotesque fares all too well these days. It may not be Nazi Germany - it might be a lot worse.
More HERE
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"Adversity makes men, and prosperity makes monsters." ~ Victor Marie Hugo
Time is trapped in an unending spiral. Good and evil are fot times repeated and revisited upon us. Never in exactly the same form because that was the last loop.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 04:20 PM
GO GERALD! You've got the psychos foamimg at the mouth now!
Posted by: Saladin at August 6, 2006 04:23 PM
Quotes from Gerald
Dear God, the Father, thank you for giving us, Jesus Christ, your Son.
Christmas is a time of reflection. Are we truly Christians in our value system and in our way of life?
The world's population is about 85% non-white and 15% white. I believe that heaven will also reflect the same numbers.
Hate can never understand love but love can understand hate.
Bush does not have to emulate Hitler because he is already Hitler. What bush is doing is positioning himself to be an emperor and a god.
I truly believe that bush believes that he is a god.
America will rue the day that it went to war against Iraq.
Bush gave us absurdities and now Americans are committing atrocities.
People can only give what they have. Fill your hearts with love, mercy, peace, and justice so that you can give love, mercy, peace, and justice.
Bush's attack on Iraq is a terrible blunder. American soldiers are tied down in Iraq and they cannot fight terrorists around the world.
When they were passing out brains, bush thought that they meant trains and he kept looking for the caboose.
Living well is not tied to possessions, it is tied to the true God of love, mercy, peace, and
justice.
The fundies and the neocons have never met a nuclear weapon that they did not love.
American Nazis receive their daily highs by sniffing and in some cases snorting napalm in the morning.
American Nazis love the smell of human bodies in the evening that were flamed with napalm in the morning.
Look carefully below the exterior skin of an American Nazi and you will notice the dry rot taking hold within the body.
Posted by: Gerald at August 6, 2006 04:23 PM
"In battling evil, excess is good; for he who is moderate in announcing the truth is presenting half-truth. He conceals the other half out of fear of the people's wrath."
~ Kahlil Gibran, 'Narcotics and Dissecting Knives,' Thoughts and Meditations, 1960
Lebanese artist & poet in US (1883 - 1931)
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 04:24 PM
#267 Saladin, good to have you back! You truly know from my posts and emails how glorified I become whenever I can piss off the Nazi trolls.
Posted by: Gerald at August 6, 2006 04:28 PM
"There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance."
~ Socrates (469 BC - 399 BC), from Diogenes Laertius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 04:28 PM
Come on you guys. If you do not have an answer, simply say so, or do what you usually do when you have no
truthful answers, make up a lie.
Or I guess you can continue avoiding the questions, and continue to admit you are cowardly, gutless traitors.
Once you respond to the questions I BROUGHT UP FIRST, we can move on to the subjects you brought up to avoid my questions.
Posted by: lip at August 6, 2006 04:32 PM
#250 All Lip. If I became enough of a threat to the Bush administration, I think I would suffer some very serious consequences.
Are you saying because the American public can make comments about the President that this is the best Democracy has to offer?
The American public has been put to sleep, and I believe if thet woke up in mass and really became a threat to "the corporations that rule the world". I don't doubt that the U.s. military would be ordered to mow them down. Now... All LIP how about reading Kevin Phillips book "The American Dynasty" which is all about the serious crimes committed by the Bush Dynasty. This REpublican backs up everything he claims with proof. Are you afraid to read it?
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 04:34 PM
#239
Capt,
Wow, Tom Friedman has really changed his tune. If this continues I won't think fondly of the Beast post anymore.
Sal, good to read your name. And speaking of anti semitic accusation crap we've had to endure for the past 2 weeks I have a test for everyone. We'll see whose anti semitic.
Are You Anti-Semitic?
Das BEAST Pop Quiz!
NO CHEATING
Posted by: Jeanne at August 6, 2006 04:39 PM
Bush - Nazi Link Confirmed
The Family Business
In 1926, after Prescott Bush had married Walker's daughter, Dorothy, Walker brought Bush in as a vice president of the private banking and investment firm of W.A. Harriman & Co., also located in New York. Bush became a partner in the firm that later became Brown Brothers Harriman and the largest private investment bank in the world. Eventually, Bush became a director of and stockholder in UBC.
However, the government documents note that Bush, Harriman, Lievense and the other UBC stockholders were in fact "nominees," or phantom shareholders, for Thyssen and his Holland bank, meaning that they acted at the direct behest of their German client.
More HERE
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It kind of explains why the Bush crime family are so secretive, eh?
"[The war in Iraq is] a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled times...a New World Order can emerge."
~ George Herbert Walker Bush before Congress on September 11, 1990
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 04:43 PM
Just in case you forgot the questions with all your cowardly avoiding.
You folks seem to think President Bush, The Greatest President America has ever had, is like Hitler. If you really believe that, answer these questions. If you admit you are wrong about President Bush, then continue to avoid the questions.
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If President were like Hitler, and you said those kinds of things about Hitler, would Hitler allow you live?
If President were like Saddam, and you said those kinds of things about Saddam, would Saddam allow you live?
If President were like the leaders of Iran, AlQuaeda, Hizbollah, Hamas, Cuba or Syria, and you said those kinds of things about them, would they allow you to live?
Posted by: lip at August 6, 2006 04:44 PM
#273, kathleen has the answers for All Lip!
Posted by: Gerald at August 6, 2006 04:45 PM
Jesus fuckin christ Lisa, why don't you get your biscuits back in the oven and your buns in the bed. Kitty and Misty, same goes for you.
Posted by: anne coulter at August 6, 2006 04:50 PM
#250
Lip,
You are such a good kool aid drinking soldier. You actually believe the BS you hear the from neocons. Speaking of foaming at the mouth...even the Republican Congress is foaming at the mouth in anger at the spot this half wit White House has put them in. But hey lip if you want to support them you go right ahead.
Hey Gerald,
I laughed at the thought of you being a cowardly gutless traitor. I'd say you could eat a troll for breakfast but I am understanding about your weak stomach.
Posted by: Jeanne at August 6, 2006 04:50 PM
Kathleen 273
#250 All Lip. If I became enough of a threat to the Bush administration, I think I would suffer some very serious consequences.
Excuse me, the actual questions are:
would Hitler allow you live?
would Saddam allow you live?
would the leaders of Iran, AlQuaeda, Hizbollah, Hamas, Cuba or Syria, allow you to live?
I asked nothing about what you thought our President might do, if you might do something, maybe, almost, ETC... or any other theoretical bull crap that you might imagine could possibly happen in some contrived mixed up theory of yours.
Quit avoiding the questions and answer them truthfully, if you are capable of telling the truth just this once.
Posted by: lip at August 6, 2006 05:01 PM
Nazis in the attic
Like Nixon, George Bush was deeply involved with supporting the Nazis in the Republican's closet. In fact, support for the Nazis was a Bush family tradition which goes back more than six decades and, once again, to Allen Dulles.
Loftus and Aarons write: "The real story of George Bush starts well before he launched his own career. It goes back to the 1920s, when the Dulles brothers and the other pirates of Wall Street were making their deals with the Nazis. . . ."
THE BUSH-DULLES-NAZI CONNECTION
"George Bush's problems were inherited from his namesake and maternal grandfather, George Herbert 'Bert' Walker, a native of St. Louis, who founded the banking and investment firm of G. H. Walker and Company in 1900. Later the company shifted from St. Louis to the prestigious address of 1 Wall Street. . . .
"Walker was one of Hitler's most powerful financial supporters in the United States. The relationship went all the way back to 1924, when Fritz Thyssen, the German industrialist, was financing Hitler's infant Nazi party. As mentioned in earlier chapters, there were American contributors as well.
More HERE
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"I did denounce it. I de-I denounced it. I denounced interracial dating. I denounced anti-Catholic bigacy... bigotry. ~ Dumya referring to his Bob Jones University visit and the subsequent criticism, Virginia, February 25, 2000
I think the Nazi's were against interracial dating too?
"There ought to be limits to freedom" ~ Dumya at a Press conference at the Texas State House, May 21, 1999
Nazi's think there should be limits to freedom (for certain people - not them)
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier...just as long as I'm the dictator..." ~ Dumya Washington, DC, Dec 18, 2000, during his first trip to Washington as President-Elect
Anything short of dictator would be too much "hard work", eh?
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 05:04 PM
Let's get real here.
These are, quite simply, yes or no's.
Even you morons should be able to see that.
Jesus you guys are slow.
Posted by: lip at August 6, 2006 05:05 PM
Have I have `fretted' yet on this thread? Gotta be sure I take up David's invitation...here are my Frets:
F1) ?Sad? when Reuters resorted to doctoring photos coming out of Lebanon....guess they felt the real damages weren't damaging enough to their anti-Israel cause. Kudos to true blog sleuths who knew how Photoshop works!
F2) Despicable! For photo-op/propaganda purposes, Hezbollah resorted to multiple staging of the same rescuer/terrorist holding up a dead child over several hours for multiple medias. More Kudos to true blog sleuths!
F3) Lamentable that kathleen, a ?real? activist uber Liberal, vs. the dime-a-dozen Corn keyboard activists, think so little of the American people.....I have visions of the Wicked Witch of the MidWest looking down her curly nose at the masses that just don't see things her way! It's her way or the "put to sleep" way!
Last, NOT a fret, a wish/prediction: Go, Neddy! With ~100% Nutroots participation, let's hope you don't win by too much!!
Time to do that tax-free get-ready-for-school shopping!
Posted by: Happy Fretting at August 6, 2006 05:09 PM
278 anne coulter, i adore your long blond hair, prominent adams apple, and tall legs. perhaps you and i could put our buns together in your bed and my loaf in your oven. oh yeah. doody out!
Posted by: DOODY at August 6, 2006 05:10 PM
Life in Hell: Baghdad Diary
A knot begins to form in my stomach exactly at 8 a.m., when I step into the small Fokker F-28 jet that will take me and 50 other passengers from Amman, Jordan, to Baghdad. I know what lies ahead: an hour's uneventful flying over unchanging desert, followed by the world's scariest landing--a steep, corkscrewing plunge into what used to be Saddam Hussein International Airport. Then an eight-mile drive into the city along what's known as the Highway of Death. I've made this trip more than 20 times since Royal Jordanian's civilian flights started three years ago, and you'd expect it would get easier. But the knot takes hold in my stomach every time.
I scan the cabin for familiar faces. The 50-odd passengers include the usual suspects--Western "security consultants" in faux fatigues, Iraqi officials in dark suits. And some surprises, like the three women in white Indian saris with blue borders. The nuns from the Missionaries of Charity, Mother Teresa's order, are a comforting sight. One of them, Sister Benedetta, kindly gives me a laminated picture of the soon-to-be saint and a genuine relic--a microchip-size piece of Teresa's sari. A lapsed Hindu, I'm nonetheless grateful for any and all gifts that purport to holiness; somewhere in my bags are a tiny sandalwood Ganesha, pages of the New Testament and a string of Islamic prayer beads. In Iraq, you want to have God--anybody's God--within easy reach.
Sister Benedetta smiles politely when I joke that many of our fellow passengers will be calling to their maker when the plane begins its hellish descent. To avoid being shot down by Iraqi insurgents, the pilot must stay at 30,000 ft. until the plane is directly over Baghdad airport, then bank into a spiraling dive, straightening up just yards from the runway. If you're looking out the window, it can feel as if the plane is in a free fall from which it can't possibly pull out. I've learned from experience to ask for an aisle seat.
The only thing worse than the view from the window is being seated next to someone who hasn't taken the flight before. During one especially difficult landing in 2004, a retired American cop wouldn't stop screaming "Oh, God! Oh, God!" I finally had to slap him on the face--on instructions from the flight attendant. Another time the man in the window seat was a muscular, heavily tattooed Polynesian ex-commando who spent an hour telling me of his life as a mercenary in a succession of South Pacific island nations--stories that often ended with his punching, stabbing or shooting somebody. When the Fokker began its steep descent, he began whimpering to Jesus and grabbing my forearm so tight, I felt my palm go cold from lack of circulation.
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A story from the frontlines.
Posted by: Jeanne at August 6, 2006 05:11 PM
"You don't get everything you want. A dictatorship would be a lot easier." ~ Describing what it's like to be governor of Texas. From Paul Begala's "Is Our Children Learning?" - (Governing Magazine 7/98)
"If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." - (CNN.com, December 18, 2000)
"A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it." - (Business Week, July 30, 2001)
*****
As long as Commander Codpiece is :
"asserting that he has the power to set aside any statute passed by Congress when it conflicts with his interpretation of the Constitution."
It does not have to be called national socialism or Nazi - you can call this dictatorship Amerikan!
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 05:11 PM
Remember about White House aide Claude Allen? Crooks-n-Liers has a short peice about how he was found guilty, but will serve no jail time. He blaimed his shop-lifting on hurricane Katrina...
Posted by: David B. Benson at August 6, 2006 05:12 PM
All Lip, YES, NO, YES. Now STFU. DOODY out!
Posted by: DOODY at August 6, 2006 05:13 PM
Happy frets about which Dem gets the nominiation in CT. . . . cuase he knows the Repubs have no one that can beat either. HA! DOODY out!
Posted by: DOODY at August 6, 2006 05:15 PM
All LIP..Hitler would more than likely kill us or anyone who questioned his agenda. I don't know if the leaders in and of Iran, Syria, Cuba, Iraq, Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Quaeda etc would kill us for our opinions. I don't know.
What I do know is that the American public's opinion does not matter to our President or are Representatives anyway. So sure we can say what we want no one is listening.
I also know that the majority of the American public are all ready brain dead, so our leaders have no need to kill them, it is all ready a done deal.
The majority of Americans have their pedals to the metal, heads in the polluted clouds, and they are on their way to Wal-Mart, to buy some more plastic stuff "made in China"
Most americans could care less that children and other innocent people are being murdered in Iraq and Lebanon, for our oil needs and Israel's agenda " A Clean (bloody) Break A New STrategy for Security the REalm" Most americans care more about frozen American embryo's. Bush says
"SAVE THE EMBRYO'S"
.All LIP...Now will you take my challenge and go read Republican Kevin Phillips book about the crimes of the Bush family. THE AMERICAN DYNASTY . Or are you afraid of someone who can back up what they say with some facts. Go read tHhe book.
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 05:17 PM
The Bush Family & Eugenics
In the early 1950s, Gordon Gray, a close friend and frequent golfing partner of Prescott Bush was appointed as the first director of the Psychological Strategy Board under Eisenhower. Later in 1958, Gray became National Security Advisor to Eisenhower. Gray's son, C. Bowden served as George Bush's (Prescott's son) legal counsel throughout the evolving Iran-Contra scandal.
In 1958, William Draper was appointed to chair a committee which was advising President Dwight Eisenhower on the use of military aid to other countries. The appointment was made possible by Prescott Bush and Gordon Gray, both whom were frequent golfing partners of Eisenhower. Dillon and Reed employed Draper during the 1930s. It was with Draper's help that Prescott Bush was able to float the largest bond issue for Nazi Germany. Draper later served in post war Germany as the head of the economic unit in charge of dismantling the cartel system.
Draper was a racist and major funder of the eugenic movement. Draper used his position as committee chairman to direct the focus of the committee away from military aid to the danger of over population in third world countries. His racist views were dismissed by the Eisenhower administration. Draper went on to fund the Population Crisis Committee with money from the Rockefellers and du Ponts. In the 1960s, Draper served as an advisor to LBJ. He was instrumental in getting the Johnson administration to use the overseas aid program to fund birth control in non-white countries.
The Bush Rockefeller connection goes back to pre-WWI and Samuel Bush, president of Buckeye Casting. Samuel Bush was also director of several Ohio and Pennsylvania railroads. The railroads worked closely with the Ohio bred Standard Oil. Standard held a minority interest in Buckeye Castings. In turn, railroads transporting Rockefeller oil were required to purchase all of their couplings and related railroad equipment from Buckeye.
George Bush, Prescott's son, was a vocal supporter of Draper's policies. In 1964, he campaigned in Texas against the Civil Rights Act. In 1969, as congressman, Bush arranged hearings on the dangers posed by the birth of too many black babies.
In 1972, as ambassador to the United Nations, George Bush arranged the first official contract between the American government and the Sterilization League of America, which had, by then, changed its name, yet again, to the Association for Voluntary Surgical Contraception. Under this contract, the United States taxpayer was burdened with the cost of sterilization programs in the non white third world.
More HERE
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Just wait - there is more on the Bush family & Draper with regard to eugenics. Very Nazi like, eh?
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 05:20 PM
All lip can you answer my question? Will you take the challenge and read the book or continue to avoid answering my question?
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 05:21 PM
I watched This Week with George Stephenopolis. I laughed out loud when they started talking about blogs and how much influence they have. You know if people don't watch out the blogs can cause changes no one will want.
Get real. All the blogs are doing is finding the real story and printing it. All they are doing is demanding that congress see reality. Demanding that there be some accountability for the white house incompetence.
I used to hear the same rhetoric in the 60's. Hippies were going to ruin everything. What I find amusing is that the people who are destroying this nation and the middle east today are the extremely conservative youth from the 60's. Most adults would have loved those guys. So straight laced. Nice hair cut. Clean attire. No beads. And I bet they listened to nice music. None of that antichrist stuff.
Posted by: Jeanne at August 6, 2006 05:22 PM
Race Hygiene: Three Bush Family Alliances
Let us now further inquire into the family background of our President, so as to help illustrate how the second quoted author, George Bush@s1 came to share the outlook of the first, Adolf Hitler.@s2
We shall examine here the alliance of the Bush family with three other families: Farish, Draper and Gray.
The private associations among these families have led to the President's relationship to his closest, most confidential advisers. These alliances were forged in the earlier Hitler project and its immediate aftermath.
Understanding them will help us to explain George Bush's obsession with the supposed overpopulation of the world's non-Anglo-Saxons, and the dangerous means he has adopted to deal with this `` problem. ''
More HERE
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I wonder if there are actual blood connections between the Bush and the Hitler family blood lines? Let's see . . .
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 05:23 PM
Well, at least I can take satisfaction in knowing I made you all realize you were not alone in your cowardice.
Now you know for a fact that even with all of you working together, none of you Liberal cowards had any answers.
You can take heart, that it was not just you alone, who did not have the courage or brains to answer even the easiest yes or no questions from a dreaded Troll, but none of you, even combined could come up with the answers.
Each of you can now feel good, knowing you are not alone, but all of you are ignorant, cowardly traitors.
Posted by: lip at August 6, 2006 05:30 PM
Kathleen 292
AS I said before Kathleen,
As soon as you answer the questions I put to you FIRST, we can move on to the subjects you used to avoid answering my questions.
Posted by: lip at August 6, 2006 05:33 PM
Howdy, Doody! I would love to take you up on your offer but God-fearing Christian that I am, I must abstain. Now if you are proposing marriage.... In the meantime, you can kiss my adams apple!
Posted by: anne coulter at August 6, 2006 05:33 PM
#279 Jeanne, I would just chew them up and spit them out!!!
Posted by: Gerald at August 6, 2006 05:33 PM
#295
"Excuse me while I laugh my azz off." Pandemoniac
Posted by: Jeanne at August 6, 2006 05:34 PM
If these are paid trolls someone sure isn't getting their money's worth.
Posted by: all lip and no brain at August 6, 2006 05:37 PM
Should ALL spoof posters be banned, or just conservative ones?
Posted by: stuff at August 6, 2006 05:37 PM
Is loving humanity a cowardly act? Is viewing all human beings as your brothers and sisters in God a cowardly act? Are the ideas of promoting love, mercy, justice, and peace cowardly acts? Is praying a cowardly act?
Posted by: Gerald at August 6, 2006 05:46 PM
Jeanne
299
#295
"Excuse me while I laugh my azz off." Pandemoniac
Well then, answer the simple yes or no questions put to you by a dreaded troll, if you have the courage to tell the truth.
If President were like Hitler, and you said those kinds of things about Hitler, would Hitler allow you live?
If President were like Saddam, and you said those kinds of things about Saddam, would Saddam allow you live?
If President were like the leaders of Iran, AlQuaeda, Hizbollah, Hamas, Cuba or Syria, and you said those kinds of things about them, would they allow you to live?
Remember, no convoluted theories on what might happen if someone did something somewhere in time that could possibly happen under different circumstances ... maybe, possibly.
Yes or no will do.
They are pretty easy questions, even for someone of limited intelligence like you Jeanne.
would Hitler allow you live?
would Saddam allow you live?
would the leaders of Iran, AlQuaeda, Hizbollah, Hamas, Cuba or Syria, allow you to live?
Posted by: lip at August 6, 2006 05:47 PM
A major reason why I oppose cloning is because one Hitler Bush in the history of mankind is too many!
Posted by: Gerald at August 6, 2006 05:53 PM
Jeanne, didn't anyone take the quiz? I am a harden Nazi apparently. So much for "God's chosen children!" Did they ever stop to think that running around proclaiming such bullshit could be why they piss people off? They would do well to bring themselves back down to earth with the rest of God's creatures, human and otherwise.
Posted by: Saladin at August 6, 2006 05:54 PM
Jeanne
All the blogs are doing is finding the real story and printing it. All they are doing is demanding that congress see reality.
.... see reality ????
Jeanne, You never cease to amaze.
FUCK YOU ARE DUMB
Posted by: stuff at August 6, 2006 05:55 PM
The Nazi trolls do provide entertainment while I am on the toilet. I play three games - Aggravation, Concentration, and Kirplunk.
Posted by: Gerald at August 6, 2006 05:57 PM
306 stuff
Amen to that.
You know, Jeanne lives in a swimming pool filled with Kool-aid, don't you?
Posted by: lip at August 6, 2006 05:58 PM
Jeanne...Dan Rather was on Chris Matthews and had some very insightful comments about the direction of the country. He politely hammered the media (including himself) for not doing their jobs before the illegal invasion.
David Brooks of the New York Times mentioned how Ohio was the center of the storm once again this fall. Strickland is on a roll for Governor, that is until Rove figures out how to twist and turn something into a "swiftboat" event. I believe Stickland's machine is ready for the twist, turns and lies.
Ohio Congressman Sherrod Brown who is running against Senator Dewine for the Senate seat is the one I am worried about. The Republicans are going to throw big money at this race. Bush was in Ohio several weeks ago and they raised 1.5 million for Dewine at one event.
Brown has an amazing record, but Hackett ( who was asked to pull out of the race) had the been to Iraq marine punch.
Brown and STrickland campaigns can use any extra funds people can throw their way.
As Ohio goes so goes the nation.
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 05:59 PM
Al lip and no brain. I took your challenge, answered your questions, and then you squirmed and wormed out of my challenge. Will you read the book by Republican Kevin Phillips "American Dynasty" which is about the Bush family crimes. Will you?
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 06:02 PM
And now, speaking of Nazis
India Bans Arab TV Channels Under Pressure From Israel
Shahid Raza Burney, Arab News
BOMBAY, 6 August 2006 In a country widely referred to as the world's largest democracy, the Indian government has succumbed to mounting Israeli pressure and ordered a nationwide ban on the broadcast of Arab television channels.
The Indian government's ban on Arab television stations is in complete contrast to the friendship that Arab countries imagine exists with their neighbor across the Arabian Sea. It seems the ban is a move to ensure that Indians do not get to see the atrocities that are presently being committed by Israel in Lebanon and the occupied territories.
Nabila Al-Bassam, a Saudi businesswoman on a trip to Bombay, told Arab News how she became exasperated at not being able to watch Arab channels at Bombay's leading five-star Oberoi Hotel. When she took up the issue with the hotel manager, she was told that Arab television channels had been banned across India.
A perplexed Al-Bassam then sent an SMS to Arab News Editor in Chief Khaled Almaeena to verify whether this was indeed the case. Oberoi Hotel tells me that the government of India has banned all Arab TV channels. Why? I hate watching CNN and BBC, she wrote to Almaeena.
Talking to Arab News, Oberoi Hotel Manager Mohit Nirula did allude to the fact that a ban was in place. The Ministry of Information and Broadcasting has laid down certain rules. It is our duty to abide by and follow the rules of the country,he told this correspondent.
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Fascist behavior is evident whenever news is banned.
Jew hater= anyone who dares to speak out against Israeli war crimes, crimes against humanity, and refusal to abide by UN resolutions for the past 40 years, also anyone who doesn't believe in Israel's right to inflict misery, death and destruction while plundering any and all their neighbors as well as failure to bow down to God's chosen people. Bad Jew Haters!! BAD!
Posted by: Saladin at August 6, 2006 06:03 PM
Gerald,
You old ignorant, gutless wonder,
Have you the courage to answer the questions from the dreaded troll that scares you so bad you have to go to the bathroom and do a capt Kirkplunk.
Posted by: lip at August 6, 2006 06:05 PM
It Was So Hot ... A Woman Baked Cookies in Her Car
BEDFORD, N.H. (AP)Ñlistering heat was just what Sandi Fontaine needed to bake cookies for her co-workersÑŻn the dash of her Toyota Rav4.
With temperatures soaring Wednesday, Fontaine placed two trays of cookie dough on the dashboard, shut the doors and retreated inside to her air conditioned office.
"My husband wanted me to run some errands this morning,'' said Fontaine, who works at Baldwin and Clarke Corporate Finance. "I said, 'I can't. I'm baking cookies.'''
Fontaine first tested her dashboard oven three years ago. She said anyone can do it; the only requirement is for the outside temperature to be at least 95 degrees, so it will rise to about 200 degrees in the car. Temperatures in the area reached the mid to upper 90s on Wednesday.
"Mrs. Fields has nothing on Sandi,'' co-worker Brian Champigny said of the cookie company.
Though Thursday was supposed to be cooler, Fontaine said she'll still enjoy the benefits of her culinary effort.
"When you open the door to that car,'' she said, "it's like, oh my God. It's a wonderful smell.''
More HERE
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Talk about enterprising?
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 06:06 PM
Nazi trolls, when they are at a loss for words, they use four letter words.
Posted by: Gerald at August 6, 2006 06:09 PM
Hi folks. In addition to the piece that David Corn pointed out and the Tom Friedman piece (sp?), there was a full page ad sponsored by Tikkun in today's LA Times opinion section calling for an internationl peace conference to impose a fair and lasting solution to all aspects of the Israeli-Palentinian conflict and to the conflict between Israel and other states in the region.
It is extremely rare to see a political ad like this in the opinion section on Sunday.
I just received an email asking one and all to please oppose the new Forest Service proposal that will permit an array of poisons, traps and shooting to wipe out wolves, bears and other carnivores in federally designated wilderness areas.
Please consider signing the petition and if you wish, submit your personalized comments before the Aug. 7th deadline.
DEADLINE TOMORROW!
PETITION
A hearty welcome hello to Saladin!
Posted by: Carey at August 6, 2006 06:09 PM
Just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in...
I don't know if anyone's posted this little number, so I will:
Civilian Killings Went Unpunished
Declassified papers show U.S. atrocities went far beyond My Lai.
By Nick Turse and Deborah Nelson, Special to The Times
August 6, 2006
The men of B Company were in a dangerous state of mind. They had lost five men in a firefight the day before. The morning of Feb. 8, 1968, brought unwelcome orders to resume their sweep of the countryside, a green patchwork of rice paddies along Vietnam's central coast.
They met no resistance as they entered a nondescript settlement in Quang Nam province. So Jamie Henry, a 20-year-old medic, set his rifle down in a hut, unfastened his bandoliers and lighted a cigarette.
Just then, the voice of a lieutenant crackled across the radio. He reported that he had rounded up 19 civilians, and wanted to know what to do with them. Henry later recalled the company commander's response:
Kill anything that moves.
More.
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What's that spell?
F*U*C*K
These are not WAR CRIMES - War IS the crime.
Droppin' back out - RS
Posted by: Robert Schwartz at August 6, 2006 06:09 PM
"What you are is a question only you can answer." ~ Lois McMaster Bujold, The Warrior's Apprentice, 1986
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 06:09 PM
Kathleen, 310
What the hell are you talking about?
I asked you specific questions about Hitler and Saddam.
You started telling me some completely off topic bull shit you think President Bush might possibily do if you did something, sometime maybe.
You, Making up some theory about what you think President Bush might do in some kind of imaginary circumstance,
has nothing to do with my VERY SPECIFIC questions of whether Hitler or Saddam would let you live if you slandered them?
WAKE UP ...Earth to Kathleen ... Hello - hello
Posted by: lip at August 6, 2006 06:16 PM
#52 Saladin
It's just out that Israel hit Qana again today supposedly in response to the rocket attacks that rattled Haifa. It was the largest daily death toll for Israel yet (12).
I can't stay, I'm so darn busy right now. I did want to tell Pande that I absolutely loved your Thurday night funnies this week. I printed them out for friends. They were awfully good!
Posted by: Carey at August 6, 2006 06:19 PM
Ultimate causes:
Juan Cole's Informed Comment today
Real Climate Amazonian drought
Posted by: David B. Benson at August 6, 2006 06:21 PM
'New American Century' Lives On
The Project for the New American Century largely neoconservative coalition that included social conservatives, militarists and Zionists has shut down, boasting, "Goal accomplished."
A large part of that goal was to put Israel's counterterrorism agenda at the center of U.S. foreign policy.
Although it remains far from clear that the 21st century will be a "new American century," PNAC's organizers can rightly claim that the Bush administration largely adopted its neoconservative agenda for foreign policy. PNAC, organized in 1997 by Weekly Standard editor William Kristol, set forth a list of priorities immediately after 9/11 for the "war on terrorism" including a close antiterrorism alliance with Israel, taking out Hezbollah, wiping out the Palestinian intifada and regime change in Iraq, Iran and Syria.
Nine days after the al-Qaida attacks on New York and Washington, PNAC published a public letter to President Bush that concisely described what was to become the Bush administration's own policy agenda in the Middle East.
At a time when most Americans thought the war on terror would focus on hunting down Osama bin Laden and destroying al-Qaida, PNAC made the case that the U.S. government should embrace Israel's radical national security strategy. The neocon group argued essentially that Israel's enemies were America's enemies.
More HERE
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"Goal Accomplished" Can they be more obvious?
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 06:22 PM
#75 Capt
No, Bush didn't. He actually asked the Brazilian president, do you have blacks too?
Whoa!
Posted by: Carey at August 6, 2006 06:23 PM
314 Gerald,
Nazi trolls, when they are at a loss for words, they use four letter words.
In my defense, there ARE NO WORDS that will accurately explain just how F**ken dumb Jeanne is.
If you know of words that will accurately explain just how F**ken dumb Jeanne is, let's hear them.
Posted by: stuff at August 6, 2006 06:26 PM
If a report falls in a forest
It's been about 48 hours since Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee issued a sweeping indictment of the Bush administration's casual approach to law-breaking in a report called, "The Constitution in Crisis."
How's the media reaction been?
Using Lexis-Nexis and Google News, it appears that the only mainstream media outlet literally, the only one to even mention the release of the report was CNN, when Jack Cafferty devoted 200 words to the subject late last week.
To be fair, the timing of the release wasn't ideal. A Friday afternoon in August was probably not the way to maximize exposure for the report.
Regardless, this is a well-documented, thoroughly-researched report from congressional Democrats about the Bush administration possibly violating over two dozen federal laws and regulations some of them multiple times. And yet, nothing in the AP; nothing in any of the major dailies; nothing on ABC, CBS, or NBC. Not one word.
First, many of us frequently feel like congressional Democrats need to be aggressive and go on the offensive more, but let's not forget, even when they do, much the media blows off what Dems have to say.
And second, if Dems accuse the administration of criminal activity, and it's widely ignored, does it really make a sound?
Guest Post by Steve Benen, The Carpetbagger Report
More HERE
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The MSM is not going to "report" on anything that might threaten their access fetish.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 06:33 PM
HR Puff and stuff.
Posted by: fubi at August 6, 2006 06:34 PM
Gerald, is so afraid to answer the big mean scary troll, he has to run to the bathroom before he shits his pants.
It's OK Gerald, we know you have no answers or brains. Don't be so afraid of the troll just because the troll is so much smarter than you.
Posted by: stuff at August 6, 2006 06:35 PM
stuff believes in BushCo with the same religious ferver as Catholics who believe in transubstantiation.
Posted by: fubi at August 6, 2006 06:37 PM
Carey,
"[To Brazilian President Fernando Cardoso]:'Do you have blacks, too?'" ~ George W. Bush quotes (American 43rd US President since 2001. b.1946)
There are claims of translation issues but Thinkexist can be challenged and they are not bashful with their source information.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 06:37 PM
I bet the right wing radicals are after Yonaton Shapira.
I went back and listened to the interview by Amy Goodman with Israeli airforce captain (Refusnik) Yonaton Shapira once again. He is truely a brave individual. Standing up to the right wing radical zionsit agenda in Israel.
He has witnessed first hand the brutal and inhumane tactics being used. He in fact dropped some of the bombs&
Israeli Yonaton Shapira is a remarkable and honorable human being, he sees no difference in the deaths of Israelis or Palestinians, and he is fully aware of the crimes being committed.
That interview is well worth listening to at Democracy Now and Free Speech T.V. Refusenik Yonaton Shapira is doing a tour of the U.s. talking to people about what is really taking place in Israel.
I am trying to get our university to bring him to Ohio. I encourage others to listen to the interview and contact their local universities or other organizations to bring him to your community. He is so honest, so compassionate and has seen the situation from the inside.
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 06:37 PM
I have to leave.
It was fun, not only scaring the shit out of Gerald, but also proving beyond any doubt, the rest of you are to cowardly to truthfully answer even a simple yes or no question from the big scary Troll you fear so much.
Kathleen,
you get one point for at least, PERSONALLY avoiding the questions, and making up some hypothetical scenario that had NOTHING to do what so ever, with my questions. At least you had the guts to try to con me with some of your made up crap.
TA-TA Cowards.
Posted by: lip at August 6, 2006 06:50 PM
Israeli pilots with a conscience.
Israeli pilots 'deliberately miss' target.
Fliers admit aborting raids on civilian targets as concern grows over the reliability of intelligence
Inigo Gilmore at Hatzor Air Base, Israel
;Sunday August 6, 2006 The Observer
At least two Israeli fighter pilots have deliberately missed civilian targets in Lebanon as disquiet grows in the military about flawed intelligence, The Observer has learnt. Sources say the pilots were worried that targets had been wrongly identified as Hizbollah facilities.
at the Guardian
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 06:51 PM
"Ridicule is the first and last argument of fools." ~ Charles Simmons
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 06:54 PM
two Israeli fighter pilots have deliberately missed civilian targets in Lebanon
I wonder if the Lebanese civilians helpers of the terrorists, Hizbollah and Hamas worry about Israeli civilians enough to stop firing rockets at the rate of over two hundred a day into Israel?
Israel has just proven it does not want to harm civilians, I wonder if the terrorists will follow the Israeli lead on this? I wonder if you corn bloggers will show outrage if they do not stop targeting civilians in Israel?
Posted by: stuff at August 6, 2006 07:01 PM
Kathleen 329
He has witnessed first hand the brutal and inhumane tactics being used.
You mean like Hizbollah purposely shooting 200 rockets a day, with the specific intention of causing as many innocent civilian deaths as possible
Posted by: stuff at August 6, 2006 07:22 PM
329 Kathleen
Sounds like Yonaton Shapira has figured out just how stupid and desperate the American liberal is.
I bet he can get a movie deal, book deals, lecture tour to liberal campuses and make a fortune telling the left what they want to hear by making up cool stories. More power to this confirmed capitalist who wants to take advantage of, and fleece the all the Liberal Jew haters.
What better way to make a living than fleece the ones that hate you the most.
Right on Yonaton. The Liberal left in America is so desperate to hear only what they want to hear, they won't even be smart enough to understand you are just conning them out of their dough by simply making up things that never happened.
Go for it Yonaton, but, don't be like the last American soldier that tried this, he got caught in the truck load of the lies he was telling the left. I think he still got out with a bunch of their money anyway, so, it's all good.
Posted by: Lisa at August 6, 2006 07:51 PM
330
ya right. i'm sure that gerald was just quaking in his boots at the mere thought of the terrible http://www.meganmcgees.com/ menace.
Posted by: spy on this! at August 6, 2006 07:52 PM
Self @ #283
Last, NOT a fret, a wish/prediction: Go, Neddy! With ~100% Nutroots participation, let's hope you don't win by too much!!
=================================================== An Absolute Dumbass @ 289
Happy frets about which Dem gets the nominiation in CT. . . . cuase he knows the Repubs have no one that can beat either. HA! DOODY out!
Posted by: DOODY at August 6, 2006 05:15 PM
==================================================
Cornholes, Attention!!!!
The exchange above is one reason I come here for entertainment! Dumbos serving themselves up on a platter!
I declare "NOT a fret" and wished Ned to win on Tuesday! Bingo!!! DOODY dutifully serves up his royal dumbness!
Hey, DOODY, I want your man, Neddy that is, to win on Tuesday and move on into November! In November, I want the GOP nominee AND Ned to lose to an Independent Liberman! Why? Joe will help our country, and the GOP, more than a new GOP Senator! Is all this clear enough for you?
Posted by: Happy educates Dumbos at August 6, 2006 07:52 PM
Joe Lieberman in Trouble Against Lamont, Will Run as IndependenT By Jim Roberts Aug 6, 2006 Joe Lieberman has been described as the Democrats' Version of John McCain by syndicated columnist Debra Saunders. The feisty Democrat has been very independent and has broken from the left-wing of his party to back the president's war effort. Joe Lieberman in Trouble Against Lamont That has put him in trouble in his August 8 primary race. With a loss in Tuesday's primary to challenger Ned Lamont - and that seems very likely now - Lieberman will likely run for his US Senate seat as an
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 07:52 PM
Lisa go listen to him and then talk about the topic. Other wise you a spewing poison like the other trolls.
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 07:54 PM
Thanks for the link Capt.
AIPAC gone wild...They claim that they are making people more aware of Israel's side of the story. As if the people in the U.s. have not had the Israeli side of the story constantly shoved into their brains by the MSM for the last 40 years.
Saturday, August 5. 2006
We Are Making an ImpactOur Giyus.org, a WUJS initiative supported by many pro-Israeli and Jewish organizations (thank you!), has merely been up for a couple of weeks. But thanks to you, our dedicate members, we are already making an impact. We make more people aware of Israelïż½s side of the story. We highlighted the important facts behind this war: Hezbollah is a terror organization. Hezbollah uses Lebanese civilians as a human shield while intentionally killing Israeli citizens. Hezbollah is fighting a global Fundamentalist Islamic war and holds the state of Lebanon hostage while presenting itself as a ïż½glorious defenderïż½. Israel is fighting a just war forced upon it by a cruel, ruthless enemy that is looking to ignite the Middle East with its provocative acts. It is time for the state of Lebanon to receive the control over all of Lebanon.
We are making an impact. Our ïż½write toïż½ campaigns are noted by their recipients. We comment in the key media outlets and spread the truth in key blogs. Those of you who blog help the community spread the truth via their own blogs. Hundreds of thousands of people of both sides around the world have listened to what we had to say. They saw it in articles, in videos, in personal testimonials. Weïż½ve opened channels of communications providing informed background. We are making an impact. There are numerous examples of the important changes we have done so far. Changes in balanced reports from the news agencies, more informed articles and blog entries, and even voices from the Arab world commenting about the important role Giyus.org is making in explaining the current situation to the world.
We are making an impact. We have reached 15,000 supporters today and we would like to thank you all for your continuous help so far. Yet, our job is far from done and there is a lot more ahead of us. It is time to make an even bigger impact: Invite your friends today!
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 08:02 PM
Kathleen
I think it was you, possibly Jeanne, telling us all about that American soldier who was so honest and trustworthy, and he turned out to be a complete liar, just trying to make a buck. You guys were fooled completely, because you want that stuff to be true. That is why you are conned so easily.
Posted by: Lisa at August 6, 2006 08:06 PM
The World
August 18, 2001
http://www.worldmag.com/world/issue/08-18-01/opening_5.asp.
A group of American business and political leaders are building a pro-Israel media "war room" in Washington, D.C. The group will be called "Emet"-which in Hebrew means "truth."
Emet will try to address biased media coverage of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and also make the case that the conflict, while serious and important, pales in comparison to the larger geo-strategic threat posed to the United States and the West by Iran and Iraq, both of whom are trying to build and/or acquire weapons of mass destruction.
Funding Emet is Leonard Abramson; he sold U.S. Healthcare to Aetna in the mid-1990s for $8.9 billion. Abramson has recruited a powerful board of directors, including Bernie Marcus, founder of Home Depot; Les Wexner, founder of The Limited; Edgar Bronfman Sr., who once owned Seagram's; and Lou Ranieri, a major Wall Street player who now co-owns one of Israel's largest banks. Also joining the board are Jeane Kirkpatrick, former U.S. Ambassador to the UN, and Jack Kemp.
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 08:22 PM
Let's not forget that the multi billion dollar corporation McDonalds starts employees at $5.15 an hour.
BOYCOTT ISRAELI PRODUCTS
McDonald's Restaurants
RESEARCH FINDINGS :
McDonald's is the largest and best-known global food service retailer with more than 30,000 restaurants in 121 countries.[8]
McDonalds chairman and CEO Jack M. Greenberg is an honorary director of the American-Israel Chamber of Commerce and Industry, Inc., of Metropolitan Chicago.[9]
According to the Chicago Jewish Community Online (website of the Jewish United Fund of Metropolitan Chicago), McDonalds Corporation whose global headquarters is based just outside Chicago is a major corporate partner of the Jewish United Fund and Jewish Federation.[1].
Through its Israel Commission, the Jewish United Fund "works to maintain American military, economic and diplomatic support for Israel; monitors and, when necessary, responds to media coverage of Israel"[2].
The Jewish United Fund runs "Fun-filled Summer Family Missions to Israel" (the next one is on Aug 19 2002) where families get to "visit an army base and meet with Israeli soldiers" and "visit our sister city, Kiryat Gat and see the important work we are doing there"[3]. Kiryat Gat, you may be aware from the Boycott Intel Campaign, is built on stolen Palestinian land - the lands of the villages of Iraq Al Manshiya and Al-Faluja whose residents were ethnically cleansed in 1949 in contravention of International Law[6]. Through its "Partnership to Israel" programme, the Jewish United Fund provides $1.3 million annually[5] to help the development of Kiryat Gat and to promote further illegal settlement there.
In the Jewish United Funds outreach program they pay for Christian leaders and American high school kids to visit Israel and be fed zionist lies.[4]
McDonalds entered the Israeli market in 1993 and now has 80 resturants across Israel, providing employment to some 3000 Israelis.[7]
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 08:26 PM
We know that this is not the first time Israel has killed or assisted killing in Lebanon
FROM BEIRUT TO JERUSALEM
EYE-WITNESS TO SABRA-SHATILA MASSACRE
Dr.Ang Swee Chai
"The slaughter of unarmed children, women, the aged and the infirm was shocking. For me, I was doubly outraged that I had to discover the truth about a brave and generous people only through their deaths. Until then, I never knew Palestinian refugees existed. As a fundamentalist Christian, I had been a supporter of Israel, hated Arabs and saw the Palestinian Liberation Organisation as terrorists to be loathed and feared."
Dr Ang Swee Chai grew up supporting Israel. Arabs, she was told, were terrorists. But in 1982, on the television she saw the relentless bombing of Beirut by Israeli planes. Shocked, her view of Israel began to change. It was then that she heard of an international appeal for an orthopaedic surgeon to treat war victims in Beirut. The petit woman - she was just under 1.5 meters - resigned her job in London, bade her husband farewell and set out on a journey to civil war Beirut, there she was to eye-witness the Sabra-Shatila massacres*.
With her husband Francis Khoo, and some friends, Dr Ang Swee Chai helped to form the British charity, Medical Aid for Palestinians (MAP), following the 1982 Sabra-Shatila massacres. In 1987, PLO chairman Yasser Arafat awarded Dr Ang Swee Chai the "Star of Palestine" the highest award for service to the Palestinian people.
In her talk, given at a West London Mosque on 10th December 2004, she shares with us some of her experiences of Lebanon and Palestine. Many of the slides she uses in her talk are reproduced below with relevant captions and a time code so that you may follow the slides with the audio.
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 08:30 PM
Kathleen
I believe you would be sucked in and buy a book by "lip" if he decided to switch sides and make a buck by writing bad things about the President.
You want to hate the President and his administration so bad, you don't care where stories come from. If it makes America, or Israel sound bad, you dive right in head first without even looking for rocks, or even how deep the water is.
It is very easy to see this personality flaw in you. You really should talk to a psychiatrist about it. All that hate you harbor will eat you up inside.
Don't get defensive, I'm Just trying to help, because it really is easy to see that in you by the way you write, and the things you say.
Posted by: Lisa at August 6, 2006 08:31 PM
Seems like the trolls are going off like bottle rockets on Independence Day.
Posted by: fubi at August 6, 2006 08:35 PM
BOYCOTT ISRAEL CAMPAIGN
Divestment Campaign On Campuses Growing
By Sandi Cain
Arab-American Business MagazineApril / May 2003
Grassroot efforts to get universities to divest from Israel are picking up steam; growth in coordination among campuses cited as key next step
Growing activism on campuses against U.S. policy in Iraq has given campaigns to divest from Israel a boost. While UC Berkeley has taken the lead to pressure administrators and companies to divest from investment in Israel, a growing number of campuses across the country are joining the effort.
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 08:36 PM
#345 Lisa you can keep your head in the sand.
The rest of the world sees the hypocrisy and the contradictions of American foreign policy in the middle east. Many experts have written about it endlessly for years.
Until the U.s. deals with the Israeli/Palestinian conflict in a fair and balanced way the conflict will only escalate as we are witnessing now. How many times can it be said, before we listen?
The disproportionate amount of power and influence that the Israeli lobby has on U.s. foreign policy has to change.
The time to push harder is now.
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 08:41 PM
#313
Capt,
I spilled milk in my car. Wonderful smell.
Posted by: Jeanne at August 6, 2006 08:43 PM
That is just great.
I can just see the picket signs.
Don't eat at McDonalds because it is owned by Jews.
Stop going to movies, they are produced by Jews.
I guess your hatred runs much, much deeper that just for The president.
Kathleen, you need serious psychiatric help, NOW, or even sooner. Please, for your own sake and the sake of your children's mental health, seek out psychiatric help. I can only imagine how black you are turning your children's hearts.
If you act like this in front of your children, It could be considered child abuse.
Posted by: Lisa at August 6, 2006 08:44 PM
Lisa is not a woman.
Posted by: fubi at August 6, 2006 08:46 PM
Ok boys and girls, here goes.
Posted by: Jeanne at August 6, 2006 08:48 PM
Human Rights Watch
Some Israeli Attacks Amount to War Crimes
(Beirut, August 3, 2006) ・Israeli forces have systematically failed to distinguish between combatants and civilians in their military campaign against Hezbollah in Lebanon, Human Rights Watch said in report released today. The pattern of attacks in more than 20 cases investigated by Human Rights Watch researchers in Lebanon indicates that the failures cannot be dismissed as mere accidents and cannot be blamed on wrongful Hezbollah practices. In some cases, these attacks constitute war crimes.
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 08:51 PM
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win."
Mahatma Gandhi.
Goodnight and Good Luck even to you Lisa,Fubi, All Lip and the rest of the trolls...at least most of us know we will wake up in the morning unlike the people in Iraq, Lebanon, and the Israeli's that come out of their bomb shelters.
There just has to be another way.
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 08:57 PM
Israeli pilots 'deliberately miss' targets
At least two Israeli fighter pilots have deliberately missed civilian targets in Lebanon as disquiet grows in the military about flawed intelligence, The Observer has learnt. Sources say the pilots were worried that targets had been wrongly identified as Hizbollah facilities.
Voices expressing concern over the armed forces' failures are getting louder. One Israeli cabinet minister said last week: 'We gave the army so much money. Why are we getting these results?' Last week saw Hizbollah's guerrilla force, dismissed by senior Israeli military officials as 'ragtag', inflict further casualties on one of the world's most powerful armies in southern Lebanon. At least 12 elite troops, the equivalent of Britain's SAS, have already been killed, and by yesterday afternoon Israel's military death toll had climbed to 45.
As the bodies pile up, so the Israeli media has begun to turn, accusing the military of lacking the proper equipment, training and intelligence to fight a guerrilla war in Lebanon. Israel's Defence Minister, Amir Peretz, on a tour of the front lines, was confronted by troubled reserve soldiers who told him they lacked proper equipment and training.
...As one well-connected Israeli expert put it: 'If we have such good information in Lebanon, how come we still don't know the hideout of missiles and launchers?... If we don't know the location of their weapons, why should we know which house is a Hizbollah house?'
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Trouble in paradice.
Posted by: Jeanne at August 6, 2006 08:58 PM
Ceasefire dead before it starts
HOPES of an imminent end to almost a month of war were dashed last night when Hezbollah vowed to ignore a UN-brokered ceasefire and Lebanon blackballed the draft resolution.
...Hezbollah said the French-US plan would fail because it had ignored its demand that Israeli forces had to withdraw from southern Lebanon before the Shia militia would agree to stop firing rockets into Israel and retreat to the north.
The Lebanese Government said the plan largely ignored its blueprint for peace -- primarily, the withdrawal of Israeli forces.
Jerusalem welcomed the plan, saying it would agree to the UN interim force remaining in southern Lebanon while the international force was assembled.
John Howard said he feared the deal would collapse because the two root causes of Middle Eastern tensions were not addressed: the settlement of the Palestinian issue and the recognition by the Arab world of Israel's right to exist.
Israeli ministers conceded last night the deal was unlikely to stop the fighting, which has killed more than 1000 people in Lebanon and Israel. "Even if it is passed, it is doubtful that Hezbollah will honour the resolution and halt its fire," said Israeli Justice Minister Haim Ramon.
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And what happens when there is a ceasefire with the UN peacekeeping forces in place and fighting breaks out again?
Posted by: Jeanne at August 6, 2006 09:02 PM
Kathleen,
Listen to yourself.
You have convinced yourself that, you and only you can be right. Only the things you read are right.
Anyone who doesn't agree with you is wrong, only you, only you, Everyone else is uninformed. Only you know the real truth about everything.
You need help Kathleen, serious help. Your heart is as black as coal, and you are so far down in your sea of hate, you can no longer see any light.
Get help, fast.
Posted by: Lisa at August 6, 2006 09:03 PM
How can Israel possibly benfit from this? How horrible for both sides, especially the children. And in the meantime one hundred people a day are being killed in Iraq .
This is sick
Hezbollah Rocket Kills 10 in Israel
By Richard A. Oppel, Jr. and Michael Kamber
The New York Times Sunday 06 August 2006
Kfar Giladi, Israel - A rocket fired by Hezbollah landed in a parking lot on a kibbutz where Israeli soldiers are staying here, killing 10 people and seriously wounding at least four in the deadliest attack by the militia since the war with Israel began almost a month ago.
The rocket sprayed ball bearings in a deadly cloud up to 60 meters in diameter, leaving a scene that eyewitnesses and even one war-weary ambulance driver described as the most horrific carnage they had ever seen.
Witnesses said they believed all of the victims were reserve Israeli army soldiers, but an Israeli military spokesman, Maj. Zvika Golan, said that he could only confirm that the victims were Israeli citizens.
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 09:04 PM
Here's a republican who has stopped drinking the Kool aid.
Hagel: Iraq Is 'A Hopeless, Winless Situation'
Appearing today on CBS Face the Nation, Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) described Iraq as "a hopeless, winless situation." He harshly criticized the Bush administrationĠ³ recent decision to increase troop levels calling it "very wrong" and "irresponsible."
Hagel said Iraq was "headed" toward a civil war. He was adamant that "we cannot put American troops, and ask them to do the things that we're asking them to do in the middle of a civil war." Hagel added, "I hope this administration has got a way out of this."
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Hope all you want Senator Hagel. The administration only planned on making money. They were not prepared for the pottery barn scenario. I've seen slap stick comedies with fewer prat falls than this White House has delivered. Anybody who believes the sh*t that comes out of the white house at this point is being paid to believe.
Posted by: Jeanne at August 6, 2006 09:11 PM
Lisa doesn't cite facts, she characterizes kathleen.
Posted by: fubi at August 6, 2006 09:11 PM
Huffington Post is loaded up today.
Does this mean more record breaking profits?
BP shutting down large Alaska oil field
11 minutes ago
ANCHORAGE, Alaska - BP Exploration Alaska, Inc. began shutting down the Prudhoe Bay oil field Sunday after discovering unexpectedly severe corrosion and a small spill from a transit pipeline.
Prudhoe Bay represents about half of Alaska's oil production and about 8 percent of U.S. production, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.
Company officials said it would take days to shut down the oil field. Once completed, it's expected to reduce oil field production by 400,000 barrels a day.
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 09:17 PM
FUBI 360
Lisa doesn't cite facts, she characterizes kathleen.
AND QUITE ACCURATELY TOO I MIGHT AD.
Posted by: fubi at August 6, 2006 09:18 PM
Jeanne Do you think Hagel will run? I have thought all along that he would be a contender?
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 09:19 PM
Kathleen, I don't think Israel is meant to benefit from any of this. There is something else at work here, I'm not sure what, but the US and Israel, run by the same basic extreme fundamentalists, is heading for the abyss, and I think they are well aware of the consequences. What I haven't figured out is, who benefits in the long run, because it always boils down to that. We all know how Hitler finished up, this is similar. Out of control maniacs running the world, and where are the friendly ET's when you need them?
Posted by: Saladin at August 6, 2006 09:19 PM
I think a spoofer is spoofing a spoofer with a spoof post
Posted by: Lisa at August 6, 2006 09:20 PM
Lebanon conflict dashing U.S. hopes for region
Anger toward America is high, extremists are on the upswing and hopes for democracy in the Middle East lie dashed. The Lebanon war is creating dangerous ripples in the war on terror, the future of Iraq - even the effort to keep nuclear weapons from dangerous hands.
"America, we hate you more than ever," Ammar Ali Hassan wrote in the independent Egyptian daily Al-Masry Al-Youm, in the kind of visceral, slap-in-the-face rhetoric boiling across the region.
So far, the violence has not led allies to take steps that directly hurt America's strategic interests, such as forcing the military from its regional headquarters in Qatar or its naval base in Bahrain. And there are those who see the conflict as the bloody but necessary prelude to a real assessment by the Arab world of its choices: democracy and peace, or Islamic extremism and warfare.
Yet so far, almost every U.S. and European goal for the region - keeping oil prices stable, promoting democracy, fighting extremists, strengthening moderates - is damaged.
Others worry terror groups might already be directly benefiting. Al-QaidaĠ³ No. 2 leader has called on supporters to wage holy war against Israel in a clear effort to turn the hostility to its advantage.
More broadly, a wide swath of even progressive, middle-class people across the Mideast are outraged at the Israeli bombing of Lebanon and in part blame the United States. That means the long-sought U.S. effort to win Arab and Muslim "hearts and minds" - so crucial to fighting terrorism - has been dealt a huge blow.
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So where are we?
In the past we tried to think of ways to curb the violence in the middle east. Now, not only are we totally hated there but we aren't even in a position to act as a diplomatic party.
Posted by: Jeanne at August 6, 2006 09:21 PM
Saladin It seems as the U.s. heads for the abyss (according to Zbigniew Bryzinski, Arthur Schlesinger, Kenneth Galbraith etc, etc, and quite a while ago multi-nationals have put their money in China , the race for who will controls the oil for the next 50 years is the killing game.
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 09:23 PM
#363
I don't know. I'm really curious what the Republicans will do in the next election. I think we can safely say Condi is out of the running.
Posted by: Jeanne at August 6, 2006 09:24 PM
364 saladin
That kind of unsubstantiated trash is just garbage think and is demented.
Posted by: fubi at August 6, 2006 09:25 PM
#362 Fubi...ADD
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 09:25 PM
Connect: Our bombs,
Their Little Bodies
1 August 2006
In A Nutshell
Beautiful, heartbreaking essay.
The front page of every paper I looked at yesterday carried pictures of children dead at the hands of Israeli bombs. Bodies covered with scarves or shawls, as if to protect them from the brutal sun. Tiny feet showing the age of far too many of these victims. These were not terrorists. They were not soldiers or spies. They were children. Learning to find a place in the world. Was the next great peace maker killed today, before she learned to speak and draw to her side the hearts of the people she would have led, if not for the bombs? What crime was committed by the pregnant woman who died, taking with her the unborn child she carried?
If you are not horrified by the actions of your country yet, then you simply have not tried to see what is happening. You have looked away too often, too soon. Really look at what your country and her allies are doing half a world away. In Lebanon the seeds of terror are being planted deep and well watered with the blood of martyrs, not by wild eyed Islamic clerics demanding the death of the infidel, but by the power hungry, foolish leaders of Israel and the United States. Like dragonĠ³ teeth, every bomb we drop brings new enemies.
We stand pariah to the world and justly so. There is a weary rage in me that knows no direction. No target properly presents itself. No proper expression comes to mind for that rage. No amount of giving vent to that rage will breathe life into one dead and decaying tiny corpse. Weeping brings no relief.
This time, donât let yourself turn away. Donât just look and say âhow sad.â Connect...
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Who is butchering children?
Posted by: Saladin at August 6, 2006 09:27 PM
Jeanne....I think this will be the ticket
McCain/Hagel..both vets
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 09:28 PM
The fubi that can't spell is a troll.
Posted by: fubi at August 6, 2006 09:36 PM
This is one psychopath I would really like to see put down in the middle of Baghdad.
Anti-war, Anti-Israel, Anti-Joe The New Democrats. by William Kristol
08/14/2006,
You fight the global war against jihadist Islam with the political parties you have.
We have two. One is the Republican party, led by George W. Bush. Its heart and mind are mostly in the right place. Its performance as a governing party in time of war is, admittedly, another matter. Do we have a strategy for victory in Iraq? Not if one judges by Donald Rumsfeld's testimony last week before the Senate Armed Services Committee. It shouldn't be too much to ask for competent leadership at the Defense Department in time of war, leadership characterized by a willingness to learn from mistakes, instead of an arrogant (and oddly defeatist) smugness.
But at least we have a president who knows we are at war with jihadist Islam. And he is willing to stake his presidency on that fight, and to support others, like Israel, who are in the same fight.
It's become clear, by contrast, that the Democratic party doesn't really want to fight jihadism. It's just too difficult. Last week the entire Democratic congressional leadership sent President Bush a letter on Iraq. The Democrats didn't chastise the administration for failing to do what it takes to achieve victory there. They didn't call for a larger military, or for more troops in Iraq, or for new tactics. Rather, they seemed to criticize the (belated) redeployment of troops "into an urban war zone in Baghdad." And they complained that "there has been virtually no diplomatic effort to resolve sectarian differences, no regional effort to
establish a broader security framework, and no attempt to revive a struggling reconstruction effort"--as if these are the keys to success.
At National Review
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 09:38 PM
Proverb from the ancient Egyptian temples
"When the governing class isn't chosen for quality it is chosen for material wealth: this always means decadence, the lowest stage a society can reach."
Posted by: Saladin at August 6, 2006 09:38 PM
I love Kathleen's posts. Lisa, what are you talking about? You like death and war? That's good to you? Are you nuts?
Posted by: JUDY at August 6, 2006 09:38 PM
JUDY you are one hot babe. I want to lick you all over.
Posted by: fubi at August 6, 2006 09:41 PM
They won't win with McCain. No new ideas. He's the old guard. I think the American people want to go forward. They aren't afraid of progressive ideas. In fact I think they will be demanding them from this point forward. There is too much at stake. Health insurance crisis needs a solution. Energy crisis needs a solution. The economic crisis needs a solution. Global warming...the problems in the middle east...stem cell research. We have stopped in our tracks with the Neanderthals in the White House and in Congress.
Posted by: Jeanne at August 6, 2006 09:41 PM
whadya know, a troll being spoofed, boo hoo. But, is it surprising that we, the educated, can't tell the difference?
Posted by: Saladin at August 6, 2006 09:42 PM
#375
Exactly.
Posted by: Jeanne at August 6, 2006 09:43 PM
I hate to admit it, but I like almost everything I have heard Hagel say on Sunday morning news programs. I know nothing about his record. But I have always thought that he would be on the 2008 Republican ticket.
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 09:55 PM
I like Hagel too.
Posted by: JUDY at August 6, 2006 10:00 PM
Things Get Ugly When Bush 'Trusts His Gut'
When President Bush was caught on tape saying to Tony Blair, "See the irony is what they need to do is get Syria to get Hezbollah to stop doing this shit and it's over," more than a few progressives said to themselves, "Well that's a trenchant analysis of the situation, Sherlock." And more than a few conservatives said, "Damn straight" as Michelle Malkin put it, "Sometimes, profanity is called for."
Not that in mid-2006 anyone needed more proof that Bush is, depending on your perspective, either a simpleton or an admirably forthright straight talker who cuts to the chase. But as more and more evidence of the administration's incompetence and hubris is revealed, we are presented with more proof that under George W. Bush, U.S. policies are governed by a strange amalgam of impulse and fantasy.
As Newsweek told us this week, Bush "still trusts his gut to tell him what's right, and he still expects others to follow his lead." One might have thought Bush would have learned by now to view the proclamations of his gut with some suspicion - but then, that would be asking the president to rely on evidence and experience to make conclusions.
And it isnĠ´ only friendly reporters like those at Newsweek who have noted the way policy is dictated by The DeciderĠ³ intestinal rumblings. One of the many disturbing pictures that emerges from Ron SuskindĠ³ new book, The One Percent Doctrine, is the way Bush's preference for making decisions not on the basis of facts and analysis but on his "gut" meshed so perfectly with Dick Cheney's desire not to let facts and analysis get in the way of his visions of empire.
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This guy is leading the country. It never ceases to amaze me. And to think one of the trolls thinks Bush is the best president this country has ever had. OMG. If I'm fucking stupid then it scares me to think what kind of IQ the trolls have. Just smart enough to follow a sheep over a cliff.
Posted by: Jeanne at August 6, 2006 10:02 PM
#381
He has been one of the most open Senators. He also appears to be more moderate and he doesn't spend every waking moment looking to add to his wealth. When I think of Hagel I think of a straight shooter, someone who is honest about his vote in Congress but I too know very little about him.
Posted by: Jeanne at August 6, 2006 10:06 PM
Hagel's ethics filings pose disclosure issue
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One underlying issue is whether Hagel properly disclosed his financial ties to Election Systems & Software (ES&S), a company that makes nearly half the voting machines used in the United States, including all those used in his native Nebraska.
ES&S is a subsidiary of McCarthy Group Inc., which is jointly held by the holding firm and the Omaha World-Herald Co., which publishes the state's largest newspaper. The voting machine company makes sophisticated optical scan and touch-screen vote-counting devices that many states have begun buying in recent years.
An official at Nebraska's Election Administration estimated that ES&S machines tallied 85 percent of the votes cast in Hagel's 2002 and 1996 election races.
In 1996, ES&S operated as American Information Systems Inc. (AIS). The company became ES&S after merging with Business Records Corp. in 1997.
In a disclosure form filed in 1996, covering the previous year, Hagel, then a Senate candidate, did not report that he was still chairman of AIS for the first 10 weeks of the year, as he was required to do.
Under the ethics panel's regulations, an "excepted investment fund" is one that is: "publicly traded (or available) or widely diversified."
More HERE
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ES&S is the original evote stealing company - Hagel was an officer of the corporation - he left the company to run for office. He won - in Nebraska where coincidentally they used ES&S machines.
There are theories that this was the first test of electronically stolen votes.
I bet he can win anywhere.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 10:12 PM
Diebold, Electronic Voting and the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy
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The Ahmanson family sold their shares in American Information Systems to the McCarthy Group and the World Herald Company, Inc. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel disclosed in public documents that he was the Chairman of American Information Systems and claimed between a $1 to 5 million investment in the McCarthy Group. In 1997, American Information Systems purchased Business Records Corp. (BRC), formerly Texas-based election company Cronus Industries, to become ES&S. One of the BRC owners was Carolyn Hunt of the right-wing Hunt oil family, which supplied much of the original money for the Council on National Policy.
In 1996, Hagel became the first elected Republican Nebraska senator in 24 years when he did surprisingly well in an election where the votes were verified by the company he served as chairman and maintained a financial investment. In both the 1996 and 2002 elections, Hagel's ES&S counted an estimated 80% of his winning votes. Due to the contracting out of services, confidentiality agreements between the State of Nebraska and the company kept this matter out of the public eye. Hagel's first election victory was described as a "stunning upset" by one Nebraska newspaper.
Hagel's official biography states, "Prior to his election to the U.S. Senate, Hagel worked in the private sector as the President of McCarthy and Company, an investment banking firm based in Omaha, Nebraska and served as Chairman of the Board of American Information Systems." During the first Bush presidency, Hagel served as Deputy Director and Chief Operating Officer of the 1990 Economic Summit of Industrialized Nations (G-7 Summit).
Bob Urosevich was the Programmer and CEO at AIS, before being replaced by Hagel. Bob now heads Diebold Election Systems and his brother Todd is a top executive at ES&S. Bob created Diebold's original electronic voting machine software. Thus, the brothers Urosevich, originally funded by the far Right, figure in the counting of approximately 80% of electronic voting in the United States.
More HERE
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Just type Hagel and ES&S or Hagel and evoting into your search engine. He is a honest sounding, straight shooting (seeming) evote stealing slug. He may be personally responsible for the GOPhers now in high offices.
Hagel, Texas oil money, Deibold and his (Hagel's) first run at office was an upset, defied all the polls, I think he was the first to declare exit polls obsolete.
Something to think about.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 10:19 PM
The Hubris of the Neocons
It took US policymakers and the American public many years, perhaps decades, to realize that hubris--arrogant and uninformed self-confidence--had played a crucial and negative role in the Vietnam tragedy. As Richard Helms, the CIA director for much of the Vietnam War, said in 1981, "We were dealing with a complicated cultural and ethnic problem which we never came to understand. In other words, it was our ignorance or innocence, if you will, which led us to misassess, not comprehend, and make a lot of wrong decisions, which one way or another helped to affect the outcome." This time out, the nation is more fortunate: the perils of hubris have become evident within days of the first attack.
The year-long run-up to the war allowed for much debate: why it was needed (or why not), what it would take to win, how the Iraqis and the rest of the world would react. Most advocates of war argued that it would not be a difficult endeavor and that the Iraqis would be grateful for a US invasion and welcome what American war-backers called "liberation."
Neither of those propositions has panned out. Yes, it's early. But the point was that the collapse of the Iraqi forces and the dancing in the streets would happen early. Shortly before the war was launched, Vice President Dick Cheney predicted Saddam Hussein's troops would "step aside" and that victory would take "weeks rather than months." His remarks reflected the argument that war advocates--led by Washington's neoconservatives--had been pushing for over a year.
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/capitalgames?pid=532
Posted by: O'Reilly at August 6, 2006 10:20 PM
#385
Well, he's out.
Posted by: Jeanne at August 6, 2006 10:22 PM
There much more on Hagel, some very nefarious dealings. The creation of the whole electronic voting act that sells our vote counting process to private companies. (ES&S and Diebold etc.)
The GOP is a culture of corruption - never forget that simple fact.
Democrats are not much better but maybe a little.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 10:24 PM
#385 Capt..oops
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 10:25 PM
That might be a mighty BIG MAYBE!
HA!
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 10:25 PM
Toll fee beak. Oh! the R is broken.
Posted by: O'Reilly at August 6, 2006 10:28 PM
If folks feel inclined call or write the Diane Rehm show this week and request Sydney Blumenthal as a guest to discuss his most recent article "The Neo-cons Next War"
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 10:28 PM
AT this point anything is better than the pre-emptive unilaterist junkies in control now. I think people around the world might feel a little better/safer.
Posted by: kathleen at August 6, 2006 10:31 PM
So You Say You Want a Revolucion?
President Bush may be offering Cuba the chance to refashion itself in America's image, but Cubans arenĠ´ buying what Bush is selling.
Wonder why?
Indeed, for both Castro brothers and the politburo that rules Cuba, their entire raison d'etre is predicated upon independence from the United States. The same holds true even among Cuba's most economically and politically disadvantaged: the Cuban people themselves, who have demonstrated only a paltry amount enthusiasm for America's economically and politically "liberating" vision for its neighbor 90 miles to the south.
Why should this be?
First of all, poor as their nation may be, Cubans actually live quite well compared with neighboring capitalist countries in the Caribbean or Central America. And, speaking as someone who's made scores of trips to the island since the 1960s, I can tell you that Cuba looks poorer and more dilapidated than it is. Buildings need paint, but its 13 medical schools and 13 universities turn out well-prepared citizens; its applauded healthcare system claims an infant mortality rate lower than that of Washington, D.C.
Cubans who listen to Miami radio or Radio Marti (Voice of America) know of George Bush's disinclination to spend money on public service, an attitude very unlike that of Castro's government. And if U.S.-style capitalism should return to Cuba, many on the island know they would have to start paying for medical services and education that they now receive gratis.
Further, should the floodgates to America open, many islanders believe that the influx of land-hungry Miami-based Cubans will result in their losing title to their homes or having to pay exorbitant rents as their parents and grandparents did in the pre-revolutionary era.
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I have a neighbor who is Cuban. She and her family had to leave. What about the homes they owned? The land, farms, property? She is realistic about the problems with claiming land so many years later. Many Cubans living in America, in my humble opinion, are not realistic about their future in Cuba. Do they still have a right to land? Do the Cubans in Cuba believe a person living in Miami for 40 years has the right to property they haven't set foot on for so many years? Cuba is a different country now. The revolution didn't come and go as many expected. If the exiled Cubans try to take the land back I believe there will be a terrible power struggle in Cuba.
What is the answer?
Posted by: Jeanne at August 6, 2006 11:19 PM
Well, I guess Castro is up and walking around.
Posted by: Jeanne at August 6, 2006 11:43 PM
The exile/return issue is faced by every person/refugee exiled from every country.
I do not think there is one answer. For some the past will have to be written off.
So very sad . .
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 11:43 PM
BREAKING THE HABIT: UCSF is conducting a clinical trial for a nicotine vaccine
A clinical trial is under way at UCSF for a new vaccine that would take the fun out of cigarettes.
NicVax is injected into smokers four or five times over a period of two or three months. It helps the body build up antibodies that prevent nicotine from reaching the brain and unleashing the pleasurable sensations that come with smoking.
No buzz from the first cigarette of the morning. No calming haze at the end of a stressful workday. Just the hacking cough and bad breath.
"If they're vaccinated, they don't get the rush, they don't get the pleasurable dopamine sensation," said Tom Rathjen, vice president of investor relations at Nabi Biopharmaceuticals, the Boca Raton, Fla., company that is developing the vaccine.
More HERE
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Maybe there is hope (as my cigarette smoke drifts past my screen)
capt
Posted by: capt at August 6, 2006 11:53 PM
Research Across America Study of PROMETA
News and Events
PROMETA is an innovative therapy that is making news. On this page you'll find the latest PROMETA news coverage and events.
News
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PROMETA Ad Features Chris Farley Eight years after losing his battle with addiction, comedian Chris Farley is appearing in advertisements for PROMETA. The campaign, which was approved by the Farley family and the antidrug Farley Foundation, is being rolled out in several cities. Read more
PROMETA Approved as Treatment Protocol for Cocaine Offenders Gary, Indiana. City officials have approved the PROMETA protocol as the first treatment protocol for offenders with a crack cocaine dependency. Early results report an unprecedented 98% negative urine sample rate.Read the full article on yahoo.com
More HERE
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The nicotine vaccine and the PROMETA program (with counseling) for alcohol, meth and coke?
Who knows the future might be brighter for many more. I sure hope so. Add a "fat" vaccine and all we need is a vaccine for stupid and the world will be fixed!
capt
Posted by: capt at August 7, 2006 12:01 AM
City Court of Gary, Indiana Presents Outcomes Data on Offenders Treated with Hythiam's PROMETA Protocols at American Probation and Parole Association's (APPA) 31st Annual Training Institute
7/25/2006 8:00:00 AM EST
BIOWIRE
Hythiam, Inc. (NASDAQ:HYTM):
-- 95% of Aggregate Urine Samples Screen Negative for Use 6 Months After Treatment Initiation
-- 80% of PROMETA Pilot Participants Maintain Drug Court Compliance and Remain Drug Free; 75% Are Fully Employed
-- Success Seen in Socio-Economically Disadvantaged African American Minority Population
Hythiam, Inc. (NASDAQ:HYTM), a healthcare services management company that licenses the PROMETA(TM) treatment protocols designed to treat alcohol, methamphetamine and cocaine dependence, announced today that Judge Deidre Monroe presented outcomes from individuals treated with PROMETA in her drug court program at the American Probation and Parole Association's (APPA) 31st Annual Training Institute, on Monday, July 24, 2006. PROMETA was adopted as a treatment by the City Court of Gary, Indiana, when results from a pilot study with stimulant dependent drug court participants overwhelmingly surpassed the Court's historical success rates.
Represented at the APPA Institute are all areas of community supervision including parole, probation, juvenile justice, treatment, social work, residential programs, victim services and restitution. There are in excess of 5 million drug and alcohol dependent lives that impact criminal justice, probation, and parole.
More HERE
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I went looking for the "Yahoo" piece on PROMETA and found the above. (the link to yahoo is broken)
WOW! I hope the numbers are real!
capt
Posted by: capt at August 7, 2006 12:06 AM
Alex Jones did a segment on Chuck Hagel and his election to the senate. Beware of Hagel! Hagel won with electronic voting machines. With one week to go before the election he was 15 points behind. After the election he won by 15 points. People, you do not make up 30 points in seven days. The voting machines rigged the election. Research on these rigged voting machines have been going on for more than 12 to 15 years. The machines are fine tuned to slaughter the Democrats in 2006.
Posted by: Gerald at August 7, 2006 12:37 AM
Vaccine Fights Fat in Rats
A vaccine that trains the immune system to attack a hormone thought to control appetite has shown promise in preventing weight gain in a small pilot study in rats. If supported by subsequent research, the vaccine could help win the battle of the bulge--the large and growing problem of human obesity.
More HERE
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Having a little trouble finding a cure for stupid other than education.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 7, 2006 12:40 AM
American Soldiers
2,913 American soldiers have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan for Bush and his lies.
18,500+ American soldiers have been maimed in Iraq and Afghanistan for Bush and his evil lies.
55,000+ of the 140,000 American soldiers are suffering from PTSD. Stress disorder has increased and the percentage is now around 40%.
Over 350,000+ Iraqis have been killed in Iraq since Bush declared shock and awe bombings on March 19, 2003.
Contamination from depleted uranium may have affected 125,000+ American soldiers and several million Iraqis.
Are you feeling more safe and secure with Bush in the WH and Cheney as his chief hatchet man overseeing Nazi America and her citizens?
Our military men and women are used as cannon fodder for a terrorist Nazi American government.
Our enemies are innovative and resourceful and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, AND NEITHER DO WE. George W. Bush, August 5, 2005
Rigged elections doom American democracy. American soldiers are being killed and maimed TO PROMOTE A NAZI AMERICAN STATE.
Henry Kissinger says that military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy. Does this mean our American soldiers are only cannon fodder to be murdered and maimed through our evil foreign policies and practices?
Nazi America is a mirror image of Hitler Bush.
Nazi Americans continually justify sin.
Nazi Americans are accomplices with Bush for his murders and war crimes.
The Bush Regime's war on terror has defeated truth and the constitutional protections of liberty in the United States. No conceivable number of Muslim terrorists could inflict comparable damage on America.
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."
~ Steven Weinberg (1933 - ) quoted in The New York Times, April 20, 1999
"What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?" ~ Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), "Non-Violence in Peace and War"
"It is characteristic of the military mentality that nonhuman factors (atom bombs, strategic bases, weapons of all sorts, the possession of raw materials, etc) are held essential, while the human being, his desires, and thoughts - in short, the psychological factors - are considered as unimportant and secondary...The individual is degraded...to "human materiel".
~ Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)
Posted by: Gerald at August 7, 2006 12:49 AM
Crackpot Christianity and America's Current Moral Degeneration
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Although he might not agree with my use of the term "Crackpot Christians," Kevin Phillips is certainly correct when he claims that "the radical side of U.S. religion has embraced cultural antimodernism, war hawkishness, Armageddon prophecy, and in the case of conservative fundamentalists, a demand for government by literal biblical interpretation." [American Theocracy, p. 100]
These Crackpot Christians are largely responsible for placing one of their own, George W. Bush, in the White House. Their astounding ignorance, unquestioning faith, war hawkishness, and fascination with the End of Time subsequently rendered them gullible to the Bush administration's lies and exaggerations about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction (especially the apocalyptic "mushroom clouds") and ties to al Qaeda. Thus, they cannot escape responsibility for supporting an illegal, immoral invasion of Iraq.
Judging by recent polls, Crackpot Christians continue to provide the residual support that prevents the total collapse of the worst presidency in American history. Their insouciance toward the ever worsening daily horrors in Iraq - so vividly reported by Jeffrey Gettleman in the August 2006 issue of GQ -- is daily testimony to their moral degeneracy. And, by their refusal to repent and improve, Crackpot Christians become responsible for the precipitous collapse of U.S. moral authority now occurring around the world.
Yes, thanks to the moral degeneracy fostered by Crackpot Christians and the perverse "moral clarity" of their leader, the world now considers the United States to be a country more evil than it was when President Clinton merely disgraced the White House with immoral sexual escapades.
More HERE
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A must read - even for the trolls!
capt
Posted by: capt at August 7, 2006 12:54 AM
courtesy of CNN
what is that a flying holy cross?
click my name to see more
Posted by: spy on this! at August 7, 2006 01:24 AM
BP Shutting Down Large Alaska Oil Field
Corrosion, Spill Prompt Shutdown of Alaska Oil Field; Output to Be Cut 400,000 Barrels a Day
ANCHORAGE, Alaska Aug 6, 2006 (AP)Ñ BP Exploration Alaska, Inc. began shutting down the Prudhoe Bay oil field Sunday after discovering unexpectedly severe corrosion and a small spill from a transit pipeline.
Prudhoe Bay represents about half of Alaska's oil production and about 8 percent of U.S. production, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.
Company officials said it would take days to shut down the oil field. Once completed, it's expected to reduce oil field production by 400,000 barrels a day.
"We regret that it is necessary to take this action and we apologize to the nation and the State of Alaska for the adverse impacts it will cause," BP America Chairman and President Bob Malone said in a prepared statement.
More HERE
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If the darn place needs to be shut down then shut it down. If we had to make do with less oil so be it. Doing with less might do us some good.
Instead the price will go up and stocks will run low. Until we all get serious and start using less we are making ourselves trouble.
capt
Posted by: capt at August 7, 2006 01:44 AM
FROM NOW ON:
capt is to post under: FART
Saladin is to post under: JEW HATER
Kathleen is to post under: STANK WHORE
Jeanne is to post under: CUM GUZZLE
Micki is to post under: STOOGE
uncledad is to post under: PILLOW BITER
What the F**K is to post under: SHIT EATER
Drewp is to post under: SCROTUM SUCKER
Carey is to post under: STUPID SNATCH
Gerald is to post under: GOD SUCKS DICK
Bob from North Dakota is to post under: USED RUBBER
David B. Benson is to post under: FECES
Alan is to post under: ALAN
Erling is to post under: NORWAY'S COWARD
caroline is to post under: DOUCHE BAG
Carol is to post under: STINK HOLE
Pandy is to post under: DICK LICKER
Don is to post under: ASS MUNCHER
Hajji is to post under: DORK
Turdblosson is to post under: TURD EATER
Posted by: rolly at August 13, 2006 02:19 AM
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