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August 28, 2006

Bush-backers, Armitage and HUBRIS

White House defenders are chortling. For some reason, they believe that the news from HUBRIS that Richard Armitage was the original leaker means there was nothing to the CIA leak case.

On the National Review site, Byron York writes

Whatever Armitage's motives, the fact that he was the Novak leaker undermines--destroys, actually--the conspiracy theory of the CIA-leak case.

He notes that the Newsweek story based on HUBRIS says that Armitage had "no apparent intention of harming anyone" and comments:

It's an extraordinary admission coming from Isikoff's co-author Corn, one of the leading conspiracy theorists of the CIA-leak case. "The Plame leak in Novak's column has long been cited by Bush administration critics as a deliberate act of payback, orchestrated to punish and/or discredit Joe Wilson after he charged that the Bush administration had misled the American public about the prewar intelligence," Corn and Isikoff write. "The Armitage news does not fit neatly into that framework." [Note: Actually, I wrote those lines on my blog; they were not part of the Newsweek story.]

Conspiracy theorist--moi? Where have I proposed a conspiracy theory? I have noted from the first that the leak might be evidence of a White House crime. It turns out that Armitage leaked first. But the public record is clear: Karl Rove and Scooter Libby leaked the same classified information prior to the appearance of the Bob Novak column that contained the Armitage leak. And all of these leakers were investigated vigorously by special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, who also wondered whether a crime might have been committed. (His inquiry followed a CIA request for a criminal investigation.)

As HUBRIS will make clear, Rove's leak (to Robert Novak and Matt Cooper) and Libby's leak (to Judith Miller and Cooper) were part of a campaign to discredit former ambassador Joseph Wilson. That's no conspiracy theory. The available evidence proves this point. The book--which focuses on so much more than the leak case (see the item below)--will have more.

York writes:

But if Fitzgerald was going to indict Libby, then why not Armitage, too?

Fitzgerald indicted Libby for lying to investigators--not for leaking. Obviously, Fitzgerald ultimately concluded that he did not have a case to make against any of the leakers under the Intelligence Identities Protection Act (which makes it a crime for a government official to disclose identifying information about a covert CIA officer only if that official knows the officer is undercover). Obviously--again--Fitzgerald believed that he had a strong case against Libby (and the indictment does look strong) on the lying front but that he did not have a case against Armitage. Why is this so hard to understand? (Writing on National Review's The Corner, contributor Andy McCarthy concedes that "the evidence that Libby tried to mislead investigators, at least as it is ddescribed in the indictment, is pretty strong.") York slides right past these obvious points and answers his own question this way:

The answer may lie in the bitter conflict inside the administration over the war in Iraq that is the backdrop to the entire CIA-leak affair. Armitage's allies have made it clear that they believe Armitage is a "good" leaker while Rove, Libby, and others in the White House are "bad" leakers. We do not know what CIA and State Department officials told Fitzgerald during the investigation, but we do know that fevered imaginings about the terrible acts of the neocon cabal were not the exclusive province of left-wing blogs; they were also present inside the State Department and CIA. Fitzgerald may have chosen the course that he did--appearing to premise his investigation on the conspiracy theorists' accusations--because he was pointed in that direction by the White House's enemies inside and outside the administration.

So unnamed anti-neocons schemers at State and the CIA managed to trick Fitzgerald--who by all accounts is an independent, by-the-book prosecutor--into indicting Libby but not Armitage. Who's the conspiracy theorist now?

Let's turn to Clifford May, former GOP spokesman, who writes on The Corner, that people like me believe

it was fine for Wilson to accuse the President of lying on a vital matter of national security. But it was criminal for the White House to challenge that accusation.

HUBRIS will--as I've already promised--detail much about the Wilson imbroglio. The facts will speak for themselves. But is May, a national security hawk, suggesting that it is fine for White House officials, when they battle a policy critic, to leak classified information (disregarding any potential consequences) rather than to counter that critic in an aboveboard and open manner? The White House had the option of presenting a public case against Joe Wilson after he wrote his op-ed article criticizing the Bush administration. It could have sought to declassify information it believed was necessary to present its side of the story. That is not what Rove and Libby did.

On Captain's Quarters, a popular conservative blog, "Captain Ed" writes that our book indicates

that the Department of Justice knew the source of the Plame leak within four months of its occurrence. It also knew that the leak had no malicious intent. Patrick Fitzgerald, who almost certainly knew of it within the first days of his investigation, never attempted to indict the man whom he knew leaked the information. Why, then, has Fitzgerald's mandate continued...?

His mandate continued, in part, because he suspected that Libby had lied to both the FBI and the CIA leak case grand jury and because he also suspected that Rove had not told the truth. Do Captain Ed and his comrades at the National Review believe White House officials should get a pass from a prosecutor who thinks they may have committed perjury? (To his credit, Andy McCarthy, a former federal prosecutor who knows Fitzgerald, does not hold such a view, but he appears to be in the minority in NR-land.) As for malicious intent and the non-Armitage leakers, I again ask those who might be on Captain Ed's ship to read the relevant passages of HUBRIS when it becomes available. We will be charting new waters.

I could go on. But I'll stop here. The Armitage news does not absolve any other leakers. It does make the leak story more complicated--and more dramatic. Read the book, which goes on sale next week, to see how.

Posted by David Corn at August 28, 2006 11:09 PM

Comments

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Why the single word title? Sounds a lot like Coulter: Slander, Treason and Godless. I don't think you are receiving as much of the credit of this book as Isikhoff is. Why?

Posted by: TRH at August 28, 2006 11:31 PM

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David

Does your book identify who leaked to Pincus? Does it identify who gave Miller the name "Valerie Flame"?

Tim L - Not a good point. You might want to check out Fitzgerald's August 27, 2004 affidavit for what his understanding of the requirements for charging Libby with an IIPA violation would be - in effect, that he thought he could prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Libby knew or believed that Plame had done undercover work during the previous five years. All you can draw from Armitage's non-indictment is that Fitzgerald did not think he could prove - probably because he did not think that - Armitage knew or believed she had done work under cover overseas during the previous five years. Very different from saying Plame was not covert under the meaning of IIPA, which Fitzgerald has repeatedly refused to comment on one way or the other.

Posted by: Jeff at August 28, 2006 11:42 PM

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I don't think
Posted by: TRH at August 28, 2006 11:31 PM

Why start now?

Posted by: Happy at August 28, 2006 11:46 PM

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What is your excuse? Why not post the whole quote, or are you thinking? Sorry, that may be asking too much of you. Good nite!

Posted by: TRH at August 28, 2006 11:51 PM

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As HUBRIS will make clear, Rove's leak (to Robert Novak and Matt Cooper) and Libby's leak (to Judith Miller and Cooper) were part of a campaign to discredit former ambassador Joseph Wilson. That's no conspiracy theory. The available evidence proves this point.

But will Bush loyalists read it and determine for themselves if the argument holds water, or will they continue to argue speciously that it wasn't a leak because Plame wasn't under cover? What part of CLASSIFIED and CIA NOC is not 'under cover'? Where did those claims come from?

Posted by: Happy at August 29, 2006 12:06 AM

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I could go on. But I'll stop here.
Posted by David Corn at August 28, 2006 11:09 PM

How about more tomorrow? Also, tell us about your promotional appearences. I'd enjoy watching them. Off to Diane Rehm archives...

Posted by: Happy at August 29, 2006 12:17 AM

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PS. Send a copy to Letterman.

Posted by: Happy at August 29, 2006 12:18 AM

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David: "...Fitzgerald ultimately concluded that he did not have a case....under the Intelligence Identities Protection Act (which makes it a crime for a government official to disclose identifying information about a covert CIA officer only if that official knows the officer is undercover). Obviously--again--Fitzgerald believed...that he did not have a case against Armitage. Why is this so hard to understand?"


David,

I am with you on this "only if" line of reasoning! As for "Why this is so hard to understand?"....My guess, the simple and most plausible answer is just not `juicy enough' to professional `Conspiracists'! Like I said, a bungled comeback against a snake, your friend Joe Wilson! He is at the apex of the Leaker Pyramid, end of story!

As for the WH mounting an above-board counterattack to Wilson, my guess is since it would involve the CIA and likely also The State Dept., the WH felt it would be too time-consuming...all the while, Wilson is `out there'! Much faster to discredit your opponent; it's a time-honored & politics-as-usual route!

Goodnight!

Posted by: Happy on Subject at August 29, 2006 12:22 AM

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But will Bush loyalists read it and determine for themselves if the argument holds water, or will they continue to argue speciously that..

well since the bush loyalists (loyalists! excellent use of terminology!) on this blog can't seem to even bring themselves to read one of the many links that are provided on a regular basis by the bush decriers (ha ha) then it's doubtful if a single one of them will read Hubris!.

Posted by: spy on this! at August 29, 2006 12:23 AM

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Leaks from the Hubris book will have more responses once the book is on shelves for sale.

From the previous blog, #138 uncleded, it is an excellent quote.

Cornposters, if you have some names of good peace and justice organizations, peace share with me. I have a list of some organizations. Can you give some additional names for the list? Thank you for any help!

Peace and Justice Organizations

1. Father John Dear

2. Code Pink

3. Gold Star Families for Peace

4. Pax Christi USA

5. Amnesty International

6. Catholic Peace Fellowship

7. Voices for Creative Nonviolence

8. Veterans for Peace

9. United for Peace and Justice

10. Traprock Peace Center

Posted by: Gerald at August 29, 2006 12:36 AM

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I have really tried to feel some sort of concern over this whole Plame fiasco. Beyond the thought that no one would be punished for it, which looks more and more likely to be the case, I think she has a civil suit at best, and I hope she wins it. I have been distracted by the endless bloodshed and destruction our country is waging against the innocent people of the middle east, with the help and provocation of Israel. I will continue to hope that justice will be brought to bear on those guilty of the deaths of thousands and that what has gone around will come around to those who deserve it.

Posted by: Saladin at August 29, 2006 12:42 AM

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"Obviously, Fitzgerald ultimately concluded that he did not have a case to make against any of the leakers under the Intelligence Identities Protection Act (which makes it a crime for a government official to disclose identifying information about a covert CIA officer only if that official knows the officer is undercover)."

END OF STORY.....................................

Posted by: MP5 at August 29, 2006 12:52 AM

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You know I don't like to get all up in Corns face But: The marketing of this book so far is disappointing to me. Isakoff came off like a gossip columnist on "Softball w/Norah O'Donnell" today. I didnÕt see Corn, thatÕs not allowed on Comcast. A book named "hubris" should have a less hubristic debut. I can already hear the marginalizing of this book in the right wing echo chamber. I'm sure the book has more to say than "Armitage". But IÕve read Òa couple of liberals let Rove off the hookÓ, and ÒNovak is not a dribbling fool after allÓ. Books arenÕt record albums, and they shouldnÕt be marketed as such.

Posted by: uncledad at August 29, 2006 12:59 AM

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Saladin
"I have been distracted by the endless bloodshed and destruction our country is waging against the innocent people of the middle east, with the help and provocation of Israel. I will continue to hope that justice will be brought to bear on those guilty of the deaths of thousands and that what has gone around will come around to those who deserve it."

Right on.

Posted by: uncledad at August 29, 2006 01:06 AM

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Except for the "I will continue to hope that justice will be brought to bear on those guilty of the deaths of thousands and that what has gone around will come around to those who deserve it" part. You see that is what gets us all into trouble to start with. "Retribution" a religious word, a sin, (if I was religious I would not believe in retribution).

Posted by: uncledad at August 29, 2006 01:11 AM

Posted by: Alan at August 29, 2006 01:49 AM

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*here's what my friend sent about this link...

If you go to the web site at www.letssaythanks.com you can pick out a thank
you card and the Xerox Corporation will print it and it will be sent to a soldier that is currently serving in Iraq. You can't just pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the armed services. It is FREE and it only takes a second.

Let's Say Thanks

Posted by: Alan at August 29, 2006 02:21 AM

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OOOooh , the bots are all excited, think Dave touched a nerve or two.

Posted by: titchaba at August 29, 2006 03:13 AM

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OOOooh , the bots are all excited, think Dave touched a nerve or two.

Posted by: titchaba at August 29, 2006 03:13 AM

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OOOooh , the bots are all excited, think Dave touched a nerve or two.

Posted by: titchaba at August 29, 2006 03:14 AM

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spam was unintentional.

Posted by: titchaba at August 29, 2006 03:15 AM

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Amazing isn't it. These guys pore over the fake Bush National Guard memo like scholars examining the Dead Sea scrolls, but when it comes to a subject they don't like, they suddenly go blind.

So here's the condensed version for the benefit of the acutely obtuse:

Armitage leak.

Rove leak too.

Libby leak too.

Libby lie to grand jury.

Fitz indict Libby for lying.

Got it?

Posted by: Drewp at August 29, 2006 03:50 AM

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NO ANNIHILATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!

Posted by: spy on this! at August 29, 2006 03:52 AM

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Slowly Sidling To Iraq's Exit
Many GOP Candidates Part Company With Bush
By E. J. Dionne Jr.
Tuesday, August 29, 2006; Washington Post
By Election Day, how many Republican candidates will have come out against the Iraq war or distanced themselves from the administration's policies? August 2006 will be remembered as a watershed in the politics of Iraq. It is the month in which a majority of Americans told pollsters that the struggle for Iraq was not connected to the larger war on terrorism. They thus renounced a proposition the administration has pushed relentlessly since it began making the case four years ago to invade Iraq. That poll finding, from a New York Times-CBS News survey, came to life on the campaign trail when Rep. Chris Shays (R-Conn.), one of the most articulate supporters of the war, announced last Thursday that he favored a time frame for withdrawing troops. Shays is in a tough race for reelection against Democrat Diane Farrell, who has made opposition to the war a central issue. After his 14th trip to Iraq, Shays announced that "the only way we are able to encourage some political will on the part of Iraqis is to have a timeline for troop withdrawal." In July Rep. Gil Gutknecht (R-Minn.) returned from Iraq with an equally grim view. Americans, he said, lacked "strategic control" of the streets of Baghdad, and he called for a "limited troop withdrawal -- to send the Iraqis a message." Just the month before, Gutknecht had told his fellow House members that "now is not the time to go wobbly" on Iraq. Nearly as significant as the new support for troop withdrawals is the effort of many Republicans to criticize President Bush without taking a firm stand on when the troops should come home. Rep. Mike Fitzpatrick (R-Pa.), facing a challenge from Democrat Patrick Murphy, an Iraq war veteran, took a page from former president Bill Clinton's playbook by triangulating between Murphy and the president. A Fitzpatrick mailing sent earlier this month said that Fitzpatrick favored a "better, smarter plan in Iraq" that "says NO to both extremes: No to President Bush's 'stay the course' strategy . . . and no to Patrick Murphy's 'cut and run' approach." Notice: A Republican is suggesting that Bush's Iraq policy is extreme. That would not have happened in 2004. Other Republicans have taken their distance from the president more subtly. In May Rep. Jim Gerlach (R-Pa.), facing a difficult rematch against Democrat Lois Murphy, called on Congress "to step up and be more assertive in assessing the level of progress" in Iraq. He added: "The Iraqi government needs to know that American patience and support are not blank checks that Iraqi politicians can cash with American lives and tax dollars." And judging from the Web sites of other Republicans in close races, many would prefer to make the Iraq issue disappear between now and November. Consider the campaign Web site of Rep. Mike Sodrel (R-Ind.), who faces a serious opponent in Democrat Baron Hill, a former House member. On the "Issues" portion of his campaign site, Sodrel is proud to describe his stands on border security, gas prices and energy, tax relief, creating jobs, veterans, health care, supporting small business, and agriculture. As of yesterday evening, there was no entry for Iraq on the site, though he does discuss the issue on his House Web site. All this Republican uneasiness underscores the importance of the New York Times-CBS poll showing that 51 percent of those surveyed found no link between the war in Iraq and the broader war on terrorism, an increase of 10 percentage points since June. A majority now rejects the administration's core foreign policy argument. The cracking of Republican solidarity in support of Bush on Iraq has short-term implications for November's elections and long-term implications for whether the administration can sustain its policies. With a growing number of Republicans now echoing Democratic criticisms of the war, Republican strategists will have a harder time making the election a referendum on whether the United States should "cut and run" from Iraq, the administration's typical characterization of the Democrats' view.
And even the war's strongest supporters are offering increasingly critical assessments of past decisions. Last Tuesday Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) recited a litany of past administration statements -- "stuff happens, mission accomplished, last throes, a few dead-enders" -- as indications that "we had not told the American people how tough and difficult this task would be." On Friday McCain reiterated his loyalty to the Iraq mission, but he had already made his point. The Republicans' restiveness suggests that Bush may not be able to stick with his current Iraq policy through Election Day. Even if he does, he will come under heavy pressure from his own party after Nov. 7 to pursue a demonstrably more effective strategy -- or to begin pulling American forces out.

Posted by: Erling Krange at August 29, 2006 06:11 AM

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IF.....

IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

RUDYARD KIPLING (1865-1936)



Posted by: Erling Krange at August 29, 2006 06:37 AM

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"It is not so much that man is a herd animal, said Freud, but that he is a horde animal led by a chief."
Ernest Becker

"You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty."
Mohandas K. Gandhi

"You do not lead by hitting people over the head -that's assault, not leadership."
Dwight D. Eisenhower

"There's nothing more demoralizing than a leader who can't clearly articulate why we're doing what we're doing."
James Kouzes and Barry Posner

Posted by: Erling Krange at August 29, 2006 07:52 AM

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At least 100 die as militia force Iraqi troops out of town
By Jerome Taylor
Published: 29 August 2006 The Independent
At least 100 people were killed across Iraq yesterday in a day of intense gun battles and suicide bombings, contradicting US military claims that the security situation in the war-torn nation was improving. A total of 34 bodies, including seven civilians and 25 Iraqi government soldiers, were brought into the central hospital in the town of Diwaniyah, 80 miles south of Baghdad, after fighting between government forces and gunmen of the Mehdi Army, a Shia militia loyal to the radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. Fifty militiamen were also killed in the gunfight, according to the Iraqi defence ministry. In a separate development, a suicide bomber rammed a car packed with explosives into the Interior Ministry in Baghdad during the midmorning rush hour, killing 16 people, including 13 policemen, and wounding up to 62. On Sunday, a further 60 people were killed in attacks across the country from Kirkuk in the Kurdish-held north to Basra in the south.
The latest violence was a reminder of how easily Iraq could slip back into the type of endemic sectarian violence that characterised much of the first half of this year after the destruction in February of a Shia shrine in the town of Samarra. More than 10,000 Iraqis - the vast majority in Baghdad - have been killed in the past four months alone, a figure that would send shockwaves through the international community were it in any other part of the world.
The US military admitted that there had been a spike in violence in Baghdad, but insisted that things were improving since US-led forces launched Operation Forward Together last month in an attempt to pacify the capital. Maj-Gen William Caldwell, a US military spokesman, said violence in Baghdad had dropped by half since July, and that life was returning to normal in some areas of the capital. The British Defence Secretary, Des Browne, echoed such sentiments during a visit to Iraq yesterday to meet key Iraqi politicians including the Prime Minister, Nouri al-Maliki. "I recognise there are continuing challenges and I've seen some violence over this weekend which suggests there's much more work to be done," Mr Browne told a joint news conference with the Iraqi Defence Minister, Abdul Qader Jassim. "But as Prime Minister Maliki said in an interview this weekend, things are improving and the challenge is to maintain that improvement." The intense fighting in Diwaniyah will be of particular concern to British forces stationed in the Shia-dominated south of Iraq. Reports suggested that militiamen had driven government forces out of the city and had set up checkpoints in the suburbs. If the Mehdi Army has pushed the government out of the Shia-dominated city it will be a major snub to Mr Maliki, who has promised to rid Iraq of militias. Confronting Mr Sadr's Shia militias was never going to be an easy task. His movement holds 30 parliamentary seats and five cabinet posts, and his militiamen are well-armed and dedicated. The cleric is also undeniably popular among Iraq's Shia majority, particularly the poorer classes. In 2004, Mr Sadr led an uprising against the American-led coalition which threatened to draw the post-Saddam government and US military into a bitter conflict with Iraq's Shia while simultaneously trying to subdue what was then an emerging Sunni insurgency. The fighting was only stopped when the head of Iraq's Shia community, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, ordered the Mehdi Army fighters to lay down their arms.

Posted by: Erling Krange at August 29, 2006 07:58 AM

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Good morning, Cornuts! Morning read/reaction w/touch of humor by Jack Kelly! ReHash of HUBRIS' left out!

August 29, 2006
Plame and the 'Bush Lied' Meme
By Jack Kelly

A new book by Michael Isikoff, an investigative reporter for Newsweek, and David Corn, who writes for the far left wing magazine The Nation, casts many powerful people in Washington in an unflattering light -- but not the people who Mr. Isikoff and Mr. Corn wish to besmirch.

A brief review for those of you who have lives, and who consequently haven't been following closely the details of the Plame Name Game: In his 2003 State of the Union address, President Bush said: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

First in leaks to reporters, and then in his own op-ed in the New York Times, a retired diplomat, Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, said the president was lying. His claim to speak with authority was that in the spring of 2002, the CIA had sent him to Niger to see if Saddam had tried to buy uranium there.

Mr. Wilson's charge was important because it marked the beginning of the "Bush lied" meme about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. But investigations by the Senate Intelligence Committee; the Robb-Silberman Commission on prewar intelligence, and the British Butler Commission all concluded it was Mr. Wilson who was not telling the truth. Saddam had indeed tried to buy uranium in Africa, as even Mr. Wilson himself had acknowledged to the CIA officers who debriefed him after his Niger trip.

One of the false claims Mr. Wilson made was that he had been sent to Niger at the request of Vice President Dick Cheney. In his July 14, 2003 column, Robert Novak disclosed that he had been sent instead at the insistence of his wife, Valerie Plame, who worked at the CIA.

Ms. Plame had once been an undercover operative. Concern was expressed that the leaker had violated the Intelligence Identities Protection Act.

Mr. Wilson blamed the leak on White House political guru Karl Rove, claiming it was payback for his "whistle-blowing." A special prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald, was appointed to investigate the charge. Mr. Fitzgerald eventually indicted I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, then the chief of staff to the vice president, on a charge of having lied to a grand jury about from whom he had learned of Ms. Plame's occupation. He is awaiting trial.

No indictments have been brought on the charge Mr. Fitzgerald was appointed to investigate, because it is clear there was no violation of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act. The act applies only to those who are operating under cover overseas, or who have done so within five years of the disclosure of their identities. Ms. Plame had been manning a desk at CIA headquarters in Langley, Va. for longer than that.

Mr. Isikoff and Mr. Corn disclose....

Mr. Isikoff and Mr. Corn write that: "the Plame leak in Novak's column has long been cited by Bush administration critics as a deliberate act of payback, orchestrated to punish and/or discredit Joe Wilson after he charged that the Bush administration had misled the American public about prewar intelligence."

They add, lamely, that: "The Armitage news does not fit neatly into that framework."

They don't mention that Mr. Isikoff and (especially) Mr. Corn have been among the journalists flogging this meme, and the time that it takes to research and write a book indicates they've known for quite some time that it isn't true. They're only willing to tell the truth, now, for money.

Posted by: Happy to the Last Drop (of Coffee) at August 29, 2006 09:27 AM

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Pandemoniac,

I know I jump on you liberals pretty hard sometimes, but I save my true scorn for the feckless Republicans, both in Congress and in the Administration.

Think of all the subjects on which they rode to power in 1994. They have now abandoned all of their principles, if, indeed, they had any to begin with.

Their only argument now is, "Things may be bad with us, but they'll be worse with Democrats." Now, that's a hell of a platform.

Perhaps a few years in the political wilderness will refocus them.

Posted by: factchecker at August 29, 2006 09:28 AM

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Mr. David Corn,

"it is fine for White House officials, when they battle a policy critic, to leak classified information (disregarding any potential consequences) rather than to counter that critic in an aboveboard and open manner?

It is fine by the Bush Loyalists, Bushbots and trolls.

Bush and his criminal enterprise can do anything legal or not. It is just any in opposition that must follow the law and praise dear leader or face the consequences.


Thanks

Kirk

Posted by: capt at August 29, 2006 09:29 AM

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Happy on Caffeine,

Thank you for your post. It is just another reminder that the left in this country will tell any lie themselves in order to discredit our President.

It has been well known for some time that Wilson himself "outed" his wife. If he was so concerned for her "cover" he should have kept his big, lying mouth SHUT!

Posted by: Tim at August 29, 2006 09:33 AM

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David,
You should try to get on Democracy Now with Michael Isikoff. As you know, he's been a guest on her show before. And she asks pertinent questions. Her audience is reallllly big. And you can watch the show on the internet like your blogspot or whatever it's called. Hey, you and Mr. Isikoff should do a blogspot together.

Posted by: Jeanne at August 29, 2006 09:40 AM

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David wrote....
But is May, a national security hawk, suggesting that it is fine for White House officials, when they battle a policy critic, to leak classified information (disregarding any potential consequences) rather than to counter that critic in an aboveboard and open manner?
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This is one of the things I detest the most about the bush administration. Their mentality is so junior high and it follows through in all their actions. It is devastating this country. The Iraq war. Katrina. The tax breaks for the rich. Everything this administration does is done with a maturity factor of about age 13. And now they're talking about Iran. Somebody needs to say NO to them.

Posted by: Jeanne at August 29, 2006 09:46 AM

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David,
I'm delighted to see that your book is gaining so much attention. I have requested our local bookstore order several copies.

Thanks for pursuing this tale of intrigue and convoluted actions by this misadmistration. Keep your eye on the ball. Don't let up.

Later,
th

Posted by: th at August 29, 2006 09:58 AM

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Who is Valerie Plame and why does she wear the pants in her marriage? Oh that's right her husband is a liberal and worked for John Kerry.

Now that Chris Mathews and MSNBC have much of the last three years invested in this story... I can't tell you how many times I've heard him say how he believes this goes all the way to the 'Evil' Dick Cheney.... This is akin to Dan Rather claiming the Air Guard story about Bush is fact although his proof is based on forged documents.

You folks are really getting desparate.

Posted by: Billy Beer at August 29, 2006 10:03 AM

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I'm really amazed. This 'jack kelly' character can write a whole article of lies, from one end to the other, and our trolls soak it all in again! Bush didn't lie?? Saddam tried to buy uranium in Niger??... when he's got boatloads of it already in Iraq. Forged papers gave this administration a good cover story to scare the idiot americans with the 'mushroom cloud' bullshyt. It was a LIE, you idiot bushbots. Joe Wilson is an honest and true American patriot. One of these days, hopefully during bush's impeachment trial, you'll get the truth rammed down your throats again.

Posted by: Alan at August 29, 2006 10:06 AM

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This is akin to Dan Rather claiming the Air Guard story about Bush is fact although his proof is based on forged documents.

That's correct b/b. The secretary of that guard unit's commander verified it was true. She said the info in it was all correct, but she didn't type THAT memo. Said she typed on almost identical one, with the same 411.
Yep, bush did a cut and run from his N/G duties, then claimed a medal winner in the Vietnam War was a traitor. You should be ashamed.

Posted by: Alan at August 29, 2006 10:11 AM

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David Corn, I would suggest not dealing with the National Review at all. When I first started college, I was without strong political convictions. I would go to the school library and randomly pick out political magazines. One of them was National Review. I thought it was atrocious. Stupid caricatures, poorly written diatribe, unsubstantiated nonsense all assailed my malleable eyes. I was undecided before then, but after reading that horrible toilet paper of a magazine, I knew which way NOT to go. Point being: we don't feed the trolls here, because it just gives them something to do, and they keep coming back for more; the folks at National Review are the same way. They are not worth your time, and any attempt to deal with them will only allow them the opportunity to make fun of you.

Posted by: goob at August 29, 2006 10:17 AM

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For Corn blog's resident Saladin/Nasrallah! Some possible Happy news!!!!!

NASRALLAH'S BLUNDER
LEBANESE TURN ON HEZ CHIEF
Amir Taheri

August 29, 2006 -- WELL, what do you know: What was presented as a "Great Strategic Divine Victory" only a week ago is now beginning to look more like a costly blunder. And the man who is making the revisionist move is the same who made the original victory claim: Sheik Hassan Nasrallah....

In a TV interview in Beirut Sunday, Nasrallah admitted second thoughts about the wisdom of capturing the two Israeli soldiers, an incident that triggered the war:...

For a roundabout way of eating humble pie, this was not bad for a man whom Western media have portrayed as the latest Arab folk hero or even (as one U.S. weekly put it) a new Saladin.

Why did Nasrallah decide to change his unqualified claim of victory into an indirect admission of defeat? Two reasons.

The first consists of facts on the ground:
Hezbollah lost some 500 of its fighters, almost a quarter of its elite fighting force. Their families are now hounding Nasrallah to provide an explanation for "miscalculations" that led to their death.

Throughout southern Lebanon, once a stronghold of Hezbollah, pictures of the "martyrs" adorn many homes and shops, revealing the fact that many more Hezbollah fighters died than the 110 claimed by Nasrallah. What angers the families of the "martyrs" is that Hezbollah fighters had not been told that the sheik was starting a war to please his masters in Tehran, and that they should prepare for it....

The "new Saladin" has also lost most of his medium-range missiles without inflicting any serious damage on Israel. Almost all of Hezbollah's missile launching pads (often placed in mosques, schools and residential buildings) south of the Litani River have been dismantled.

Worse still, the Israelis captured an unknown number of Hezbollah fighters and political officers....

The second reason why Nasrallah has had to backtrack on his victory claims is the failure of his propaganda machine to hoodwink the Lebanese. He is coming under growing criticism from every part of the political spectrum, including the Hezbollah itself.

Last week he hurriedly cancelled a series of victory marches planned for Beirut's Shiite suburbs after leading Shiite figures attacked the move as "unmerited and indecent." Instead, every village and every town is holding typical Shiite mourning ceremonies, known as tarhym (seeking mercy), for the dead.

Nasrallah has tried to rally his base by distributing vast sums of Iranian money through his network ....But if Nasrallah had hoped to buy silence, if not acquiescence, he is being proved wrong. Some Lebanese Shiites are scandalized that they are treated by Iranian mullahs as mercenaries, and see Nasrallah's cash handouts as diyah (blood money) for their dead. And a dead man whose family receives a diyah cannot claim the status of "martyr" and enjoy its prerogatives in paradise.

As the scale of the destruction in the Shiite south becomes more clear, the pro-Hezbollah euphoria (much of it created by Western media and beamed back to Lebanon through satellite TV) is evaporating. Reality is beginning to reassert its rights.

And that could be good news for Lebanon as a nation. It is unlikely that Hezbollah will ever regain the position it has lost. The Lebanese from all sides of the political spectrum are united in their determination not to allow any armed group to continue acting as a state within the state.

....As the scale of Nasrallah's blunder becomes clearer, it is unlikely that Hezbollah would be able to forge such alliances in the future.

....Lebanon has already moved into the post-Nasrallah era. And that is the only good news to come out of the mini-war he provoked.

Amir Taheri is a member of Benador Associates

Posted by: Happy!!! at August 29, 2006 10:35 AM

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It is difficult to take when the radical right wingers continually attempt to write off the facts about the Plameleak as "conspiracy theories". They make excuses for the Bush administration leaks that have "allegedly" compromised U.S. national security, and they have invalidated demands of accountability.

D.Corn stated "But is May a National Security hawk, suggesting that it is fine for White House officials when they battle a policy critic, to leak classified information (disregarding any political consequences) rather than to counter that critic in an above board and open manner"

These right wingers blindly followed the most criminal and destructive " WMD conspiracy theory" blindly tens of thousands of people are dead..dead as a direct result of the use of this "WMD cosnpriracy theory". They continue to have the nerve to call the evidence of a crime being committed by the outing of Valerie Plame a "conspiracy theory".

The inability of these "hawks" to come down off their perch and admit that the Plameleak is a very serious issue, demonstrates just how deep the problems in our nation continue to be.

Posted by: kathleen at August 29, 2006 10:38 AM

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Posted by: Tim at August 29, 2006 09:33 AM

It is not Wilson's fault that Libby, Rove, and Armitage dislosed CLASSIFIED information about Valerie Plame's status as a CIA officer. It may not have been criminal but no one doubts that they did it. You're still drinking the kool-aid, arent you. Timehhh.

Posted by: Happy at August 29, 2006 10:47 AM

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"What I am wondering is how this latest outing of Armitage(by Corn and Isikoff) will be used to provide cover for the other folks who have wet spots on their pants?

Does it matter who leaked first?

Someone posted this yesterday.
"When a firing squad is assembled to execute amomeone does anyone care whose bullet hit first?"

Let's just hope through Fitzgerald's investigation the guy with the biggest piss stain on his britches gets flipped. CHENEY

Posted by: kathleen at August 28, 2006 03:27 PM

Posted by: kathleen at August 29, 2006 10:54 AM

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It is always good to hear the delusional troll!

BUSH NEVER LIED!

It is like a fine wine, it gets better and better, funnier and funnier.

ROTFLMAO!


capt

Posted by: capt at August 29, 2006 10:55 AM

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#85 Saladin (previous post) "How this situation got so turned around so that the country that signs is the bad guy and the one that refuses is the victim is beyond me."

You were wise to post an article about Mordechai Vanunu he explains the ongoing contradictions in regard to Israel's stockpiles of uninspected nuclear, biological and chemical weapons best.

He is one of my heroes.

Posted by: kathleen at August 29, 2006 10:59 AM

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12 "Obviously, Fitzgerald ultimately concluded that he did not have a case to make against any of the leakers under the Intelligence Identities Protection Act END OF STORY

Posted by: MP5 at August 29, 2006 12:52 AM

Bush loyalists will defend abuse of power by people like Rove, Libby and Armitage because it was not found to be prosecutable, in fact, potentially not illegal.

The revelation of Plame's (classified) status at the CIA, on it's face, it is bad government. Bushco made a choice, counter-attack the claims in Wilson's Op-Ed or counter-attack Wilson. Defend it if you will, but realize it's not the style kind of goernemnt that serves any American well.

Posted by: Happy at August 29, 2006 11:03 AM

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"Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties.": John Milton

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"For those who stubbornly seek freedom, there can be no more urgent task than to come to understand the mechanisms and practices of indoctrination. These are easy to perceive in the totalitarian societies, much less so in the system of 'brainwashing under freedom' to which we are subjected and in which all too often we serve as unwilling instruments." Noam Chomsky

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"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience. Our problem is that numbers of people all over the world have obeyed the dictates of the leaders of their government and have gone to war, and millions have been killed because of this obedience. Our problem is that people are obedient all over the world in the face of poverty and starvation and stupidity, and war, and cruelty. Our problem is that people are obedient while the jails are full of petty thieves, and all the while the grand thieves are running and robbing the country. That's our problem.": Howard Zinn, from 'Failure to Quit'

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"With numbing regularity good people were seen to knuckle under the demands of authority and perform actions that were callous and severe. Men who are in everyday life responsible and decent were seduced by the trappings of authority, by the control of their perceptions, and by the uncritical acceptance of the experimenter's definition of the situation, into performing harsh acts. A substantial proportion of people do what they are told to do, irrespective of the content of the act and without limitations of conscience, so long as they perceive that the command comes from a legitimate authority" Stanley Milgram, 1965

Stanley Milgram was a psychologist who performed a series of experiments that proved conclusively that obedience to authority was so ingrained in the average US citizen they were prepared to cause lethal harm to others when instructed by authority figures to do so.

All those who took part were first asked if they would be capable of killing or inflicting severe pain on their fellow human beings. 100% replied categorically 'no'.
http://tinyurl.com/cm6xq

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Thanks ICH Newsletter!

Posted by: capt at August 29, 2006 11:04 AM

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15 Except for the "I will continue to hope that justice will be brought to bear on those guilty of the deaths of thousands and that what has gone around will come around to those who deserve it" part. You see that is what gets us all into trouble to start with. "Retribution"
Posted by: uncledad at August 29, 2006 01:11 AM

I agree. Eye for an Eye is so Old Testament. . . and it forms an never ending circle. Eye for an Eye is an unenlightened approach to conflict resolution.

Posted by: Happy at August 29, 2006 11:09 AM

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Bush and the platic turkey will be the last two american military members to leave Iraq. Cut and Run republicans.

Posted by: Happy Thanksgiving at August 29, 2006 11:12 AM

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York has taken on the role of Bob Woodward (after his deception was exposed) questioning and undermining the importance of Fitzgerald's investigation in his article at National Review "The Cia leak fiasco".

He alsowants us to believe that journalist are omnipotent.

"But now, after all the investigating, all the work, and the setting of terrible precedents for forcing reporters to testify in court or go to jail, the CIA-leak case hasnÕ´ moved much beyond where it was in that frenzied week in October 2003. And unlike the old independent counsels, who were required by law to issue a report on their investigation, Fitzgerald has no obligation to explain his actions to anyone. Some questions that are unanswered now might well remain unanswered forever.

Hopefully York will be eating his words when Fitzgerald flips Libby and gets to Cheney.


Posted by: kathleen at August 29, 2006 11:17 AM

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Fugitive Polygamist Leader Arrested

LAS VEGAS (Aug. 29) - The fugitive leader of a polygamist Mormon sect has been arrested in southern Nevada, the FBI said Tuesday.

Warren Steed Jeffs, 50, was taken into custody after he and two other people were pulled over late Monday by a Nevada Highway Patrol trooper on Interstate 15 just north of Las Vegas, FBI spokesman David Staretz said.

The leader of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was wanted in Utah and Arizona on suspicion of sexual misconduct for allegedly arranging marriages between underage girls and older men.

Posted by: Alan at August 29, 2006 11:19 AM

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uncledad 15, justice and retribution are two different things. I meant no religious connotations in that statement.
Kathleen, I agree, Vanunu sacrificed his freedom to reveal the truth behind the lies. Any other country in the world, especially, God forbid, one of the Arab countries, caught lying about 200 nuclear weapons, (who knows how many Israel has in it's stockpile now) would be subjected to the most harsh condemnation imaginable. Look what Iraq suffers, and they didn't even have one!

Posted by: Saladin at August 29, 2006 11:20 AM

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I know I jump on you liberals pretty hard sometimes, but I save my true scorn for the feckless Republicans
Posted by: factchecker at August 29, 2006 09:28 AM

That's good to hear. Here's a good place for you to take your 'true scorn' www.redstate.com We'll all come visit sometime.

Posted by: Happy says turn right at August 29, 2006 11:21 AM

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35 Who is Valerie Plame and why does she wear the pants in her marriage?
Posted by: Billy Beer at August 29, 2006 10:03 AM

Your skirt matches your blouse beautifully. We know who wears the pants in your marriage, Billy.

Posted by: Happy boys club at August 29, 2006 11:24 AM

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Hopefully York will be eating his words when Fitzgerald flips Libby and gets to Cheney.

Posted by: kathleen at August 29, 2006 11:17 AM

I think Fitz is playing for the big fish too.

Posted by: Happy boys club at August 29, 2006 11:28 AM

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Happy #2, I wish you would change your handle, I scroll past the happy troll and it is hard to tell which is which. And I will repeat, justice is not "eye for an eye." If that were the case anyone could get away with every sort of crime and not risk punishment. The leaders who are responsible for these crimes against humanity deserve the full penalty of law to be executed against them, and if that means execution itself, then so be it. I would not shed a tear over dead, murdering tyrants.

Posted by: Saladin at August 29, 2006 11:28 AM

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In all, it was one of the deadliest 24 hours in Iraq in recent weeks and comes amid assertions by the Iraqi government and U.S. military that they are prevailing over extremists fueling the sectarian violence that's gripping the capital . On Sunday, gunmen and bombers claimed at least 69 lives.

"The violence is in decrease and our security ability is increasing," Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said on CNN's "Late Edition" program Sunday. Multinational forces have created an atmosphere of "reconciliation" in the country, Maliki said, and "Iraq will never be in a civil war." - Excerpted from: At Least 23 Dead in Iraq Violence
By Sudarsan Raghavan and Ellen Knickmeyer
The Washington Post Monday 28 August 2006

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Excuse me?

Posted by: Robert Schwartz at August 29, 2006 11:37 AM

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I supported President Bush's decision to overthrow Saddam Hussein. At Wolfowitz's request, I helped advance the case for war, drawing on my work in previous years in documenting Saddam's atrocities, including the use of chemical weapons on the Kurds. In spite of the chaos that followed the war, I am sure that Iraq is better off without Saddam Hussein.

It is my own country that is worse off -- 1,100 dead soldiers, billions added to the deficit, and the enmity of much of the world. Someone out there has nuclear bomb-making equipment, and they may not be well disposed toward the United States. Much of this could have been avoided with a competent postwar strategy. But without having planned or provided enough troops, we would be a lot safer if we hadn't gone to war.

Peter W. Galbraith, a former US ambassador to Croatia, is a fellow at the Center For Arms Control and Non-Proliferation. In the 1980s, he documented Iraqi atrocities against the Kurds for the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

(link)

Posted by: Happy tells Trolls to get with it - last years news at August 29, 2006 11:38 AM

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Iran's President Wants Debate With Bush
Ahmadinejad Challenges Authority of U.N. on Nuclear Dispute
By ALI AKBAR DAREINI, AP

TEHRAN, Iran (Aug. 29) - President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Tuesday challenged the authority of the U.N. Security Council as Iran faces a deadline to halt its uranium enrichment and he called for a televised debate with President Bush on world issues.

Iran last week responded to a Western incentives package aimed at getting Tehran to roll back its nuclear program. Iranian officials said the Islamic country did not agree to halt enrichment - the key demand - before engaging in further talks.

Ahmadinejad called the response an opportunity for the two sides to resolve the issue and he didn't rule out the possibility of direct talks with the United States.

"The opportunity the Iranian nation has given to other countries today is a very exceptional opportunity for a fair resolution of the issue," he said.

The Iranian president also called Israel a threat to peace and stability in the Middle East.

"The Zionist regime has deprived the Palestinian nation and other nations of the region of a single day of peace. In the past 60 years, it has imposed tens of wars on the Palestinian nation and others," he said.
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bush, debate? That's a laugh. He can barely string two sentences together when he ISN'T under pressure. Must be the superior IQ.


Posted by: Saladin at August 29, 2006 11:44 AM

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sCorn is in damage control! he he he

sCorn thought he had hit a home run with Hubris only to find out it was a foul ball. It's a full count now, and his confidence in hitting the ball at all has been shattered. He's hoping to get a walk to coast the rest of the game. Can't wait to see what the next pitch will bring to CornNut land! har har har

Posted by: LBH at August 29, 2006 11:45 AM

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Thom Hartmann: 'Reclaiming the issues: Islamic or Republican Fascism?'

In the years since George W. Bush first used 9/11 as his own "Reichstag fire" to gut the Constitution and enhance the power and wealth of his corporate cronies, many across the political spectrum have accused him and his Republican support group of being fascists.

On the right,The John Birch Society's website editor recently opined of the Bush Administration's warrantless wiretap program: "This is to say that from the administration's perspective, the president is, in effect, our living constitution. This is, in a specific and unmistakable sense, fascist."

On the left, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. specifically indicts the Bush administration for fascistic behavior in his book "Crimes Against Nature: How George W. Bush and his Corporate Pals Are Plundering the Country and Hijacking Our Democracy."

Genuine American fascists are on the run, and part of their survival strategy is to redefine the term "fascism" so it can't be applied to them any more. Most recently, George W. Bush said: "This nation is at war with Islamic fascists who will use any means to destroy those of us who love freedom, to hurt our nation."

More.

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A fine article relying heavily on a piece written by Vice President Henry Wallace on April 9, 1944 for the NYTimes, when we were battling the actual fascists, as to whom the fascists are and what they represent.

Posted by: Robert Schwartz at August 29, 2006 11:55 AM

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bush, debate? That's a laugh. He can barely string two sentences together when he ISN'T under pressure. Must be the superior IQ.

Saladin

It could be worse! It could be Kerry who has a lower IQ than Bush! You silly CornNuts!

Posted by: LBH at August 29, 2006 11:56 AM

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Wayne Madsen

Aug. 28, 2006 -- SPECIAL REPORT FROM EUROPE. Information visas (I-Visa) -- a Bush administration method for controlling the foreign media's coverage of the United States.

You're a foreign journalist and you want to visit the United States to cover a story. If you think it is as easy as hopping on an airplane, even if you are a citizen or resident of a visa-waiver country, guess again. Journalists wishing to travel to the United States -- whether they are with print, television, radio, or Internet media -- must first obtain an "I-Visa" from the U.S. embassy or selected consulates responsible for their jurisdictions. Freelance journalists who are not under contract to a U.S.-recognized media organization need not apply.

Journalists must fill out a detailed application in which they are required to outline what story they are writing about and they must personally visit the U.S. embassy and consulate for "administrative processing, biometric collection and a personal interview." Biometric processing at the U.S. embassy in Copenhagen entails having one's thumb electronically scanned. Journalists visiting some U.S. diplomatic missions for the interview cannot bring in "electronic devices (cell phones, PDAs, laptops ) [or] backpacks, suitcases and attach? cases." At certain missions, U.S. embassy security personnel refuse to store such items during the interview process. Others confiscate cell phones and tag them for pick up after the interview process (needless to say, the interview process might last a bit longer if the local U.S. spooks decide to examine the journalist's cell phone call list and perform certain "modifications." At the Madrid embassy, the only bags that are permitted inside the compound are those having medical purposes, such as insulin kits.

Journalists must also provide their addresses in the United States and the names and addresses of people they will be interviewing. So much for freedom of the press and the protection of journalists' sources.

Right now, it is fortunate that most countries are not reciprocating against U.S. journalists in kind. In fact, there are very few countries that require special visas for journalists. The United States and a few tin horn dictatorships are among the few countries that restrict admittance and travel for foreign journalists. Israel severely restricts media access to the West Bank and Gaza. On the other hand, Cuba provides freer access for foreign journalists than does the United States. It is just that a vocal jingoistic minority in southern Florida and their lickspittles in the Bush administration don't want any American journalists to witness for themselves the relative freedom for foreign journalists to report from Cuba. Ask Cuban authorities about the total lack of restrictions on journalists reporting on and photographing conditions inside the U.S. prison camp at Guantanamo Bay from their side of the fence and then consider the draconian restrictions places on U.S. and foreign journalists inside the U.S. military concentration camp.

If the Republicans and neo-cons are not run out of Washington soon, the situation for American journalists abroad may change dramatically. And the public's right to know will be the major casualty in such an event.
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Story here

This is reaching comic proportions.

Posted by: Saladin at August 29, 2006 12:01 PM

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It could be worse! - LBH

Where? In Iraq? In Afghanistan? In North Korea? In Lebanon? In Iran? In Sudan?
In New Orleans?

Posted by: Robert Schwartz at August 29, 2006 12:02 PM

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Sorry David,

If the Plame incident was not a conspiracy to get Bush, then there have never been any conspiracies used in politics.

The truth?
definiton of conspiracy-
"An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act."

Sadly, both parties(and affiliated networks) work to subvert each others legitimacy. It is the nature of politics.

one more defintion that you need to consider:
"delusional monomania"

I'd offer the definition, but you seem to be living it.

Posted by: paul at August 29, 2006 12:03 PM

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I would like to know whats up with libs and the wacky eyes,( Combs, Corn, etc) and the slured speech? When you clowns are born do they beat you all with the fugly stick?

Posted by: Libs are losers at August 29, 2006 12:05 PM

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RS 63

Yes, yes,yes,yes,yes & yes!

I guess you didn't see the article I posted yesterday. Bolton is calling for the UN to not be cowards and send in troops to Sudan. The UN is refusing to do their job once again.

Posted by: LBH at August 29, 2006 12:05 PM

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66 -

Part of the Sudanese problem is a clash of modernity vs. traditional being played out in clashes between nomadic and agricultural societies. Granted, this is only part of the problem, but it illustrates that just sending troops doesn't necessarily deal with the issues at hand.

The Sudan aside, I don't know what you could be thinking.

Posted by: Robert Schwartz at August 29, 2006 12:22 PM

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Robert, are there resources in The Sudan that the west may covet? If not they will have to go it alone like the poor Tibetans, hampered by geographic disabilities.

Posted by: Saladin at August 29, 2006 12:26 PM

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#65
Seriously, who are you working for because you do the neocons no favors. My God....
By the way, slured is....slurred.

Posted by: Jeanne at August 29, 2006 12:28 PM

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After all, Sudan is believed to hold Africa's greatest unexploited oil resources, even greater than those of the Gulf of Guinea. US oil companies are barred from operating in Sudan and other Western companies are chased from the country by the Washington administration. The Canadian oil company Talisman Energy is even facing charges of "complicity in genocide and war crimes" in a US court due to its past engagements in Sudan. At present, Asian oil companies dominate the field in Sudan.

For China, Sudan has become an important oil provider and an important country to build a national sector of internationally operating oil companies. The rapidly growing Asian economic giant has urgent strategic needs to secure its own oil sources - only during the first seven months of this year, Chinese oil imports had risen by 40 percent compared to the anterior year. An estimated six percent of China's oil imports are from Sudan, a number that Beijing officials want to increase. Large investments are already made and others are planned.

Posted by: Robert Schwartz at August 29, 2006 12:32 PM

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Interview With Ray McGovern, Part 1 and 2
By Dahr Jamail
t r u t h o u t | Perspective
Monday 21 August 2006

...we're dealing with people who ... well, in my days in government, were widely known as "the crazies." I kid you not. This was the case from the very top levels of government, and I can speak personally of that, down to the lowest analysts in the CIA.

I'd come in on a Monday morning and somebody would say, "Hey Ray, guess what the crazies did on Friday afternoon." And I'd know exactly what the allusion was to. It would be [Paul] Wolfowitz, it would be [Richard] Perle, it would be that whole coterie of folks. Now, to his great credit the first President Bush had the good sense to keep close to him people with good sense. General Brent Scowcroft, his National Security Advisor, Jim Baker, his Secretary of State, and they told him, "Mr. President, you can't get rid of the crazies because the right wing of our party would be up in arms, so let Perle and Wolfowitz hang around at the middle reaches of the Pentagon, but for God's sake don't let them get this country into trouble." And he did. And he listened. And when Wolfowitz came out with that crazy report in 1992 that foreshadowed all this business, the Defense Policy Review, and someone leaked that to the New York Times, Baker and Scowcroft went right into the president's office and said to the first President Bush, "You've got to disavow this right away." Which he did.

Now, imagine our surprise, those of us who knew about the crazies, when we found them in the key policy-making positions. Not only they, but the likes of convicted felon Elliot Abrams, who is running our policy toward the Middle East right out of the White House as Deputy National Security Advisor, right now as we speak.

So it seems to me what has happened here is that they have, together with the infamous Cheney/Rumsfeld cabal, of which Colonel Wilkerson, Colin Powell's Chief of Staff often speaks, Cheney/Rumsfeld and this coterie of neo-conservatives plus Elliot Abrams, who fits that category, had decided, "Well, we're going to input the rest of that famous study that several of them wrote back in 1996, called, 'A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm.'
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Very enlightening reading.

Posted by: Saladin at August 29, 2006 12:37 PM

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Thanks Robert, I'm sure they will be experiencing the many blessings of gun point democracy in the very near future.

Posted by: Saladin at August 29, 2006 12:38 PM

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Bolton Urges Deployment Of U.N. Troops To Darfur

Tuesday, Aug. 29, 2006

UNITED NATIONS -- U.S. Ambassador John Bolton on Monday urged the Security Council to adopt a resolution transferring peacekeeping operations in Darfur to U.N. troops, saying the "time for talk is over."

"It is time for action. It is time for this council to uphold its responsibility and pass a resolution immediately authorizing the deployment of U.N. forces," Bolton told the Security Council.

Bolton spoke after the Security Council discussed the handover of peacekeeping from the financially strapped African Union, which says it can't handle long-term peacekeeping. Sudan, which opposes such a force, refused to send anyone to the meeting.

Since a May peace agreement was reached by the Sudanese government and one of the region's major rebel groups, violence, sexual abuse and displacement of people has increased dramatically, U.N. humanitarian chief Jan Egeland told the council.

"Every day that we delay adds to the tragic loss of life and suffering of the people of the Sudan," Bolton said.

Egeland cited a report that more than 200 women and girls in one camp have been sexually assaulted in less than two months as one example. "Our warnings have become a black reality that calls for immediate action," said Egeland.

RS, just sending troops is a first step that could save these 200 girls from being raped.

To walk a million miles, one must take the first step.

I ask that you support John Bolton in demanding the UN fulfill it's responsiblities to humanity and send in the troops.

Posted by: LBH at August 29, 2006 12:39 PM

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Too funny!

Isikoff is being smeared as a left wing wacko for co-authoring a book with sCorn. There goes his reputation! har har

Posted by: LBH at August 29, 2006 12:40 PM

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When David turns up the heat, they turn up the hate.

Posted by: goob at August 29, 2006 12:44 PM

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History will look back, see the kerfluffle about the speculation about who revealed Plame's name/identity, and the severity of the punishment called for by progressives- and ask one question...

Where is the hatred and vilification of Armitage, in light of the anger and rage expressed by the left when they previously had Rove/Cheney/Bush in their sights?

You now have the unenviable task, Mr. Corn, of hyping a perjury case-which you once believed was part of a conspiracy, while trying to downplay Armitage's role, which was far more relevant to the reason for the investigation.

In effect, you have led a digital lynchmob to an abandoned building, inciting them with the promise of finding a 'traitor', and upon seeing that you have found someone other than the person you were looking for, but of equivalent guilt in regards to 'treason', now must tell the mob-

"Not the traitor we wanted. Let him go."

Posted by: paul at August 29, 2006 12:50 PM

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I have been watching the Katrina aftermath segments on Democracy Now. God, it just makes me want to cry. I was there 17 years ago. I know who the backbone of New Orleans is. It is the black population who works day after day in the restaurants, hotels, clubs. The tourist industry is maybe the most important facet of that city. And now the developers, owners...whoever else, are trying to rid New Orleans of the very population who treated me as a guest. It was the black population that I met when I was in New Orleans. They treated me very cordially and made me want to come back.

The black population is the backbone of New Orleans. They are the culture of New Orleans. There will be no reason to go back to that city when it becomes whiteified.

The black population should have been treated with the respect they deserve. Instead they are being forced out of homes that did not get a drop of flood water in them. Why? Because developers want the property. It's close to the French Quarter. The white parts of the city are getting the repairs and the funding. Are the black areas? No. Why? What excuse works?

New Orleans should be ashamed. Not just for the way it has treated its most valuable citizens but it should also be ashamed at its stupidity in not recognizing what those citizens do for the city.

Posted by: Jeanne at August 29, 2006 12:59 PM

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that's very admirable of bolton to suggest that something actually be done to protect the girls of darfur! i support such an endeavor.

Posted by: spy on this! at August 29, 2006 01:06 PM

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77 - whitey is still in possession of the stick!

Posted by: spy on this! at August 29, 2006 01:08 PM

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Remembering Katrina

Two hours before dawn, at the threshold of the darkest week in the history of New Orleans, a hand shook Cyril Crutchfield awake in lower Plaquemines Parish, 45 miles southeast of the city.

"Wake up. Wake up! Water's comin' in."

Crutchfield sat up on the hard table that had been his makeshift bed in the darkened cafeteria of Port Sulphur High School. He could hear Hurricane Katrina in the night, its wind keening and moaning with unnerving power, much stronger than when he had fallen asleep two hours earlier.

It sounded like a beast. A living thing.

The floor of the high school's sturdy cafeteria stood 3 feet above ground. But water was seeping under the door.

A flashlight beam cut the darkness.

"We got to move, man."

....Alerted, the city in 24 hours completed the largest mass exodus in its history. About two-thirds of the metro area's citizens drove to safety, to upstate Louisiana or to higher ground in such states as Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee and Georgia.

But hundreds of thousands remained behind, too poor, too frail or too isolated to leave.

Many others, Crutchfield among them, elected to stay. They remained because they did not believe Katrina would be a mass killer. In particular, they did not think Katrina could kill them, that it could kill them in neighborhoods that had never flooded, inside a modern American city ringed by large-scale flood defenses fashioned by the Army Corps of Engineers.

They were confident, and they stayed.

In the course of a morning, Katrina would envelope them in arguably the largest natural disaster in U.S. history -- and certainly American civil engineering's greatest failure, as levees and floodwalls failed across the metro area.

The toll: 1,464 Louisianians dead, almost all of them in the New Orleans area. One hundred and forty square miles of a major city flooded for six weeks; St. Bernard Parish demolished, wall to wall; lower Plaquemines Parish devastated; southern Slidell and much of Metairie north of Interstate 10 flooded. In all, 160,000 homes destroyed or substantially damaged across five parishes.

And a more enduring tragedy: the forced relocation of about 240,000 New Orleanians who may never return.

First would come the hell of flood and fire and thousands of isolated fights for survival that befell the city that first day, Aug. 29 -- followed by the wholly unanticipated but unspeakably cruel aftermath of official sluggishness and incompetence that left Katrina's weakened survivors abandoned, exposed and dehydrated for days before the last could be evacuated.

And finally, the unrelenting heartbreak Katrina has inflicted every day since then: the misery of impoverishment, separation and uncertainty as tens of thousands rebuild broken lives and restore neighborhoods rendered into bleak moonscapes of flood damage. Tens of thousands more have found themselves effectively exiled in another city, another state, indefinitely cut off from New Orleans in a place arbitrarily picked a year ago by the flight schedule of an evacuation team.

Posted by: Jeanne at August 29, 2006 01:21 PM

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LBH,

I generally have much more respect for Jan Egeland than I do for John Bolton, and I will allow that the situation in Darfur is tragic and rape is only a part of the problem, which does nothing to minimize the sexual violence aspect of the issue.

That said, whose troops? On whose dime, under whose supervision? If the Sudanese resisted would they have to fight their way in?

Furthermore, you specifically mention, "RS, just sending troops is a first step that could save these 200 girls from being raped." I hope you are aware that U.N. peacekeeping forces have been implicated in the past in acts of sexual violence. Just sending troops does not necessarily mean an end to sexual violence. It is prevalent
in our own military, in our military academies, and in our recruiting.

Posted by: Robert Schwartz at August 29, 2006 01:21 PM

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'Conspiracy theorist--moi? Where have I proposed a conspiracy theory?'

For starters in your July 16, 2003 column, where you several times made statements like:

'Did senior Bush officials blow the cover of a US intelligence officer working covertly in a field of vital importance to national security--and break the law--in order to strike at a Bush administration critic and intimidate others?

'It sure looks that way, if conservative journalist Bob Novak can be trusted.'

All throughout your piece you hammer that idea home. BASED ON THE NOVAK COLUMN.

And, now we all know you were wrong.

Posted by: Patrick R. Sullivan at August 29, 2006 01:35 PM

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'The White House had the option of presenting a public case against Joe Wilson after he wrote his op-ed article criticizing the Bush administration. It could have sought to declassify information it believed was necessary to present its side of the story. That is not what Rove and Libby did.'

In fact, that's exactly what Libby did. He was instructed that the President de-classified the NIE and he shared that with Judy Miller.

All Rove did was respond to Novak's question about Wilson's wife and also to Matt Cooper's questions--about which we can't know the truth if the presiding judge in Libby's trial is telling the truth about Cooper's e-mails contradicting his story.

Posted by: Patrick R. Sullivan at August 29, 2006 01:46 PM

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#81
Robert, as you know, Jan Egeland is a Norwegian. Let LBH choke on that! To him, all Norwegians are traitors and cowards for giving in to the Germans in 1940!

Posted by: Erling Krange at August 29, 2006 01:49 PM

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Ya betcha!

Posted by: Robert Schwartz at August 29, 2006 01:53 PM

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LBH has no base of knowledge to draw upon in asserting his point of view, just assumed superiority as inconsequential as the emporer's new clothes. Har har har

Posted by: Happy says Look! He's naked at August 29, 2006 02:01 PM

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Intelligent conservatives are smart enough to know when to abondon the sinking ship. Bush loyalists tend to show an intellect deficit disorder for which there is no magic pill. Har har har.

Posted by: Happy says bush loyalists are ignarent at August 29, 2006 02:05 PM

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#83
Very weak. I give you a C-.

Posted by: Jeanne at August 29, 2006 02:10 PM

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meanwhile, the war on arabs continues.

STAYING THE COURSE OF COURSE!
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Posted by: spy on this! at August 29, 2006 02:11 PM

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Rumsfeld: Bush foes lack courage on terror
POSTED: 1800 GMT (0200 HKT), August 29, 2006

SALT LAKE CITY, Utah (AP) -- Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld on Tuesday accused critics of the Bush administration's Iraq and counterterrorism policies of lacking the courage to fight terror. In unusually explicit terms, Rumsfeld portrayed the administration's critics as suffering from "moral and intellectual confusion" about what threatens the nation's security. Addressing several thousand veterans at the American Legion's national convention, Rumsfeld recited what he called the lessons of history, including the failed efforts to appease the Adolf Hitler regime in the 1930s. "I recount this history because once again we face the same kind of challenges in efforts to confront the rising threat of a new type of fascism" he said.
Rumsfeld spoke to an American Legion convention as part of a coordinated White House strategy, in advance of the fifth anniversary of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on U.S. soil, aiming to take the offensive against administration critics at a time of doubt about the future of Iraq and how long U.S. troops must remain there. Rumsfeld recalled a string of recent terrorist attacks, from the 9/11 attacks to bombings in Bali, London and Madrid, and said it should be obvious to anyone that terrorists must be confronted, not appeased. "But it is apparent that many have still not learned history's lessons," he said, adding that part of the problem is that the American news media have tended to emphasize the negative rather than the positive. He said, for example, that more media attention was given to U.S. soldiers' abuse of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib than to the fact that Sgt. 1st Class Paul Ray Smith received the Medal of Honor.

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This man has for sure not learned history's lesson!

Posted by: Erling Krange at August 29, 2006 02:16 PM

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#85
Erling and Robert,
Here's a little something you may need if or when you are in Minnesota.

How to Talk Minnesotan

and

the book

Always comes in handy...don't you know.

Posted by: Jeanne at August 29, 2006 02:18 PM

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I will say that the one most disturbing thing about the various commentary on Hubris is the lack of mentioning David Corn's name as co-writer. It happened again on Countdown with Keith Olbermann last night, although Keith wasn't on last night.

Other than that, as Capt says, any reaction is good right now. The more publicity the merrier.

Saladin,

I agree with you on the fact that the media ignores the mass killing going on and like Den, decry the obsessive coverage of the Jon Benet Ramsey boondockle and the media's inability to let go and report on the more important things in life. Still, at this point in the game, we are consigned to pay attention to what the media covers as the election nears. We're monitoring so to speak.

Also, it is of prime importance that we support our sponsor. Afterall, if it weren't for David Corn and the loyal people he has attracted, we wouldn't be here. And, I'm sure, as David C. notes, there is much more to the book. Hence the title of Hubris in answer to some of the questions asked here. "Hubris", governmental arrogance, is a historical term that also describes the behavior of past leaders such as Bismarck or the Kaiser who started WWI. And it's a beauty of a word to describe Bushco.

Erling,

Thank you for all of your lovely, informative posts. I've enjoyed them.

Posted by: Carey at August 29, 2006 02:21 PM

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#90
Erling,
Rumsfeld is one of our foremost comics. I was hoping to see him on the Emmy's. Everything he says is funny.

Posted by: Jeanne at August 29, 2006 02:23 PM

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Carey,
I think I've ready that you are from New Orleans. I posted an article from the newspaper there. It was a human interest story. Very good.

Posted by: Jeanne at August 29, 2006 02:26 PM

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Police find 26 bodies in Baghdad
POSTED: 1758 GMT (0158 HKT), August 29, 2006

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Iraqi police found 26 bodies Tuesday in different neighborhoods of Baghdad, the Iraqi Interior Ministry said.
Eleven bodies were discovered near a school in southwestern Baghdad's Turah neighborhood, the ministry said. Six bodies were found dumped in the Um al-Maalif district, also in the southwestern part of the capital, the ministry said. The men were blindfolded and had their hands tied behind their backs. Some showed signs of torture. Iraqi police were working to identify the bodies, the ministry said. About 30 miles (48 kilometers) north of Baghdad, an attack on the Baquba office of radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr killed two and injured another, a police official said. Attackers pounded the office with mortar rounds and rocket-propelled grenades, damaging part of the building, the official said. Gunmen also killed seven people and wounded four in four other shootings in Baquba, a police official said. On Monday, a U.S. soldier was killed in Anbar province, west of Baghdad, a military statement said. The soldier was assigned to the Army's Regimental Combat Team 7 and "died from wounds sustained due to enemy action," according to the military. Separately, a Nebraska National Guard soldier died Monday of injuries he sustained when his vehicle rolled over into a canal near Balad, about 60 miles (100 kilometers) north of Baghdad, on August 21. Since the start of the war in 2003, there have been 2,626 U.S. military fatalities in Iraq. Seven American civilian contractors of the military also have died in the conflict. Iraqi troops may have been executed
Several of the bodies of 23 Iraqi soldiers killed during intense fighting last weekend in southern Iraq against followers of al-Sadr show signs of being executed, Iraqi defense sources said Tuesday. A high-ranking Defense Ministry official said some of the soldiers were captured, then killed at short range -- execution-style -- during fighting in Diwaniya, a city more than 100 miles (161 kilometers) south of Baghdad. Thirty-eight militiamen were killed in the battle, U.S. and Iraqi military officials said. U.S. attorney general visits Iraq
U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales arrived Tuesday in Baghdad, where he met with Department of Justice employees and Iraqi officials trying to rebuild the country's legal system. "People have great ambitions and dreams for a great Iraq, but those can only be realized if there is a rule of law in this country and if there is security," Gonzales said after touring a new legal facility. "What we are trying to achieve will take time. We are making progress, but we have more work to do." The U.S. Congress, he said, recently approved $100 million for the Iraqi court system and prisons.

Posted by: Erling Krange at August 29, 2006 02:28 PM

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Erling

I do not view all Norwegians as cowards. I did say that they surrendered to the Nazi's. There were many brave underground freedom fighters. According to your own philosophy you would not have been one of these barve freedom fighters. You would have been an appeaser. Chew on that!

I also said, as Norwegian, I really don't care what your criticism is of our President or democracy is.

Posted by: LBH at August 29, 2006 02:37 PM

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#96
I wouldn't be throwing too many stones LHB. You haven't proven your courage to anyone on this blog.

Posted by: Jeanne at August 29, 2006 02:45 PM

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Sorry,
LBH.

Posted by: Jeanne at August 29, 2006 02:46 PM

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If we are going to be annihilated, let us have at least competent representation.

Posted by: Gerald at August 29, 2006 02:53 PM

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Just sending troops does not necessarily mean an end to sexual violence. It is prevalent
in our own military, in our military academies, and in our recruiting.

RS

Exactly why Bolton is the right man for reforming the corrupt UN.

Posted by: LBH at August 29, 2006 02:53 PM

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#96
I would fight an OCCUPYING force like the Germans with all my ability, which to day consist of substantial military experience. (What about your own military experience, you sure seem to know a lot how to solve problems by the use of force!) Does "Fighting an OCCUPYING force" ring a bell?

Posted by: Erling Krange at August 29, 2006 02:54 PM

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Cry-baby neocons!

Waaaa!

You said something bad about his pwesident.


HA!


BUCK FUSH! He is screwing the whole effin planet why should anybody not have the freedom to express themselves, from any country? I am sure there are many that support the insane and failed policies.

Surely nobody is complaining about the BUSHLIES blog being against the LIES of Bush?

That would be silly, eh?

capt

Posted by: capt at August 29, 2006 02:57 PM

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Nazi America has a ruler who has received fame and fortune through mass murders and war crimes. New immigrants who enjoy murders and crimes may, too, receive fortune and fame.

If Nazi America fits your comfort zone, you are encouraged to call for more information at 1-800-GO-ARMY-1. You will never regret this decision.

Posted by: Gerald at August 29, 2006 02:58 PM

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You haven't proven your courage to anyone on this blog.
Posted by: Jeanne at August 29, 2006 02:45 PM

Sorry,LBH.
Posted by: Jeanne at August 29, 2006 02:46 PM

LBH postings have all the earmarks of a bully; loud bluster and intimidation. Bullies talk a good game and fold long before the quiet unassuming person who has much less to say but nonetheless complete pride and committment in getting their job done. Somethings about LBH we know already. . . others we'll never know. Jeanne, are apologizing for being rude or for being wrong?

Posted by: Happy says LBH is bully at August 29, 2006 03:00 PM

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#104
I got his name wrong. I can never remember the order of his initials.

Posted by: Jeanne at August 29, 2006 03:04 PM

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American Soldiers

2,960 American soldiers have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan for Bush and his lies.

Posted by: Gerald at August 29, 2006 03:04 PM

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#101
That was good Erling. Very good.

Posted by: Jeanne at August 29, 2006 03:06 PM

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Capt
We have Bushsupporters in Norway as well, but they're a small minority of the population!

Erling

Posted by: Erling Krange at August 29, 2006 03:07 PM

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#108
Are they trolls?

Posted by: Jeanne at August 29, 2006 03:09 PM

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Waaaa!

You said something bad about his pwesident.


HA!


BUCK FUSH! He is screwing the whole effin planet why should anybody not have the freedom to express themselves, from any country? I am sure there are many that support the insane and failed policies.

Surely nobody is complaining about the BUSHLIES blog being against the LIES of Bush?

That would be silly, eh?

Capt


Wow, at first I thought this was a Butthead post until the capt signature at the end.

Hey capt, I never said Erling couldn't express himself you idjit! I said I don't give a rats ass what he thinks just like I don't give a rats ass about your little tantrum.

Now quit reading and responding to my damn posts!

You're nothing but troll food!!!

Posted by: LBH at August 29, 2006 03:11 PM

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VIDEO: Whistleblower uses YouTube to tell his story

An article in this morning's Washington Post reveals that for the first known time, a whistleblower working on a US Government contract has posted a video on YouTube making his case about a problem inside government. RAW STORY has located the video referred to in the Post article and made it available here.

The Washington Post story tells the case of Michael De Kort, an engineer for Lockheed Martin, who worked on a US Coast Guard contract to replace the patrol boats used by the service. The contract is worth billions of dollars. In the video, De Kort, a 41-year old, fails to give his name, but commented in an interview after being contacted by the Post.

The Washington Post notes that De Kort appears to be the only known whistleblower to use YouTube to date. Nonetheless, they add "The video also has caught the eye of people in high places. De Kort's video has been covered by defense trade magazines, and yesterday, Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), ranking Democrat on the Homeland Security Committee, wrote a letter to the Coast Guard asking for an answer to De Kort's "extremely distressing" allegations."

The video is provided by RAW STORY and can be viewed below. The full Washington Post story is available at the paper's website.
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The video is at the link site.

Posted by: Jeanne at August 29, 2006 03:12 PM

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Bush White House said subpoenaed by wiretap lawyers

Two attorneys representing claimants in a lawsuit over wiretapping by the National Security Agency claim that they have sent subpoenas to the White House today, RAW STORY has learned.

Bruce Afran and Carl Mayer, who say they represent hundreds of plaintiffs in lawsuits against Verizon, AT&T, and the US Government, will announnce today that they are serving both the Bush administration and Verizon with subpoenas.

The announcement is due to arrive at 4:30 PM, outside of Verizon headquarters in New York, RAW STORY has confirmed.

Mayer tells RAW STORY that the subpoenaes, directed to President George Bush, the Office of Legal Counsel, the Department of Justice, and the Chief Legal Counsel for Verizon, have already been sent, and should reach their targets tomorrow.

Posted by: Jeanne at August 29, 2006 03:17 PM

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The conservative crack-up

Here at home, George W. Bush is now viewed with suspicion by conservatives. He too is not what they had reason to hope for. Wild deficit spending and ill-considered foreign adventurism is not the conservatism of Buckley and Will. Nor apparently of the American people, given the president’s approval ratings.

No wonder conservatives are frustrated. Bush is a failure, Benedict a disappointment.

It should be an interesting autumn.

Posted by: Gerald at August 29, 2006 03:19 PM<