Will Plame vs. Cheney, Libby & Rove Unearth New Info?

God I hope so.

Thanks, David Corn. I am not very optimistic that anything will come of this, even in the long term...

"You want us to investigate everything?"

Well, why not? But it was clear he wasn't interested in a congressional probe of the CIA leak case. Nor were many other Capitol Hill Democrats.
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what else are the democrats not interested in congressionally probing? we could make a list beginning in y2k:
1) election discrepancies
2) israeli spying
3) 9/11 discrepancies
4) WMD discrepancies
5)
6)

Mr. David Corn,

You hit the nail on the head and your questions years ago were prescient!

I wish the Wilson's get an "out of court settlement". That will only happen if they can get past some huge hurdles in the discovery phase. I predict that the courts will rule against them but maybe Valerie needed that closing chapter for her book?

Thanks for all of your work.

Kirk

David:

Now that the Wilsons' filed the suit, we do look forward to any "New Info" to be `discovered' by attorneys for the Defendants!

In wondering the net these past days, there were references naming YOU as the first media source to specifically OUT Ms. Wilson as a COVERT agent, two days after Novak's column. Oh, and that they are your friends! Hmmmmm.....Looks like you will be Deposed as well!

Ordinarily, this case would rank low on my interest scale, especialy with the Mid East getting warmer and Aug. 8 just around the corner....But with your likely entanglement, I will try to keep abreast!

Of all of the chicken shit events of the past five years, this one will undoubtably escape the public eye. We have all been waiting for the other shoe to drop. Libby may never get to trial and the real purjurists will continue to lie about most everything else.

I don't hold much hope for seeing justice hang someone for the crime.

I don't hold much hope for the democrats, unless we all get our free TV sample of enzyte and mail it on to congress. David, tell your friend that there is support out here for them to investigate something. The republicans spent 8 years investigating nothing.

The main defence surrounding the Bush White House is a gang of "Lie Troopers". They bail him out of everything. Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rice tell some of the tallest fibs in history and get away with it.

But I can see Dick Cheney look his attorney in the eye and tell him to wipe that greedy grin off his face. These people have stolen the good will of the American people, and they don't want to give any of it back.

I'll buy Valerie's book the day it hits the stands, same as I did when the Dixie Chicks released the last CD. Bush will most certainly make her out to be the bad guy for exposing government secrets - like the one where there are no WMDs.

The Plame Game

The basic outlines of the Wilson-Novak-Plame story have not changed since Novak wrote his column and Nation Washington Editor David Corn noted in an outraged July 16 column that the leakers might have broken the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982. Besides the fact that the CIA's request to the Justice Department for an investigation confirms the insinuation that Plame was an undercover agent until Novak and the leakers blew her cover, what we've now learned is the number of journalists the two administration leakers tried the Wilson-Plame story out on before striking hot with Novak (six). (Full disclosure: David Corn is a friend.)

More HERE

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David corn was the first to see that is was potentially criminal.

The only person that tried to pass a dastardly lie about David "outing" Plame was Cliff May (or as I think of him) Ciff May-not?

The facts speak for themselves. I think Cliffy also tried to pass off a lie that he knew her status before the Novak column - proven to be mistaken.

No small wonder nobody can take May seriously, he is not a serious person. He just says stuff that sound good to him at the moment. Spew and institutional spew.

capt

I think it reflects badly on those that listened to Cliff May for more than a moment. Even then all one had to do is look at the facts and the timing.

Especially some that repeated the May lies on David's blog like they were true.

That is just not right.

capt

Israel' Moment, the Free World' Gain
We are all Israelis now.

By Larry Kudlow

All of us in the free world owe Israel an enormous thank-you for defending freedom, democracy, and security against the Iranian cats-paw wholly-owned terrorist subsidiaries Hezbollah and Hamas. Israel is doing the Lord's work. They are defending their own homeland and very existence, but they are also defending America's homeland as our frontline democratic ally in the Middle East. Commentary Norman Podhoretz was exactly right when he coined the term World War IV to describe the global terror conflict. Repeatedly hostile actions by the totalitarians in Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, Hamas, and North Korea are all connected. So are the recently foiled terrorist-cell-block plans in Canada, the U.S., London, and elsewhere around the globe. We are fortunate to have a staunch ally like Israel to assist us in this fight.

As Ben Stein recently put it, God bless Eretz Israel. God bless Israel for having the cojones to stand up for herself. But supporters of freedom and democracy must also say a prayer for President George W. Bush, who has steadfastly stood up for Israel. He outright refuses to publicly ask Israel to stand down.

....the terrorist groups that started this fight have shown no restraint. Rather than pull back, Israel should move forward, cleaning out all the terrorist sanctuaries, training camps, weapons caches, and missile systems it can find.

Remember, it was Israel that pulled out of southern Lebanon and Gaza. Later, when terrorist gangs kidnapped Israeli soldiers, Israel appropriately fought back. That is what sovereign nations do, and Israel's recent military actions deserve our unyielding support. Israel has the right to put the terrorist armies of Hezbollah and Hamas out of business.

Importantly, so called moderate Arab governments Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Dubai, and the United Arab Emirates are not taking the Hezbollah or Hamas side.....

Israel's next front may indeed be Syria, which is also directed by Iran and is a safe haven for terrorists, including former Saddam Baathists and others who move freely between Syria and Iraq in order to cause trouble. Many experts still believe that Syria is safe-harboring Saddam's unfound inventory of weapons of mass destruction.

...Israel has given Syria 72 hours to bring about the release of the IDF troops kidnapped by Hezbollah. Many strategists also believe Israel should clean out the numerous missile sites, military camps, and terrorist sanctuaries that exist in Syria....

..... And if Iran attempts to stop the oil flow in the Strait of Hormuz, it will take the U.S. and Israel about 35 minutes to knock out the entire Iranian navy and air force.

....When the dust clears the world will applaud Israel for its courage. Sensible freedom-loving people everywhere will realize that Israel's furious response in the face of senseless terrorist attacks will have made the world a better place.

In fact, we are all Israelis now.

—†Larry Kudlow, NRO’≥ Economics Editor, is host of CNBC’≥ Kudlow & Company and author of the daily web blog, Kudlow’≥ Money Politic$.

David:

I know that you don't mind spoofing but I know that you are against posts dripping with low rent sexual BS!

Post #7, by O'Reily, deserve to be called on!

How 'bout this? If the Dems are not interested and a civil lawsuit is likely to be halted before it starts, Valerie gets her pals at the CIA to "investigate" the leak.

Now I'm not advocating "enhanced interrogations" of bush administration officials, but surely the CIA has ways of extracting information under "novel" procedures, eh?

Just kidding....but then again...

I would hope that new information would surface but I am skeptical. Bush and his cabal are masters in skirting the law; plus, many Americans believe that Bush can do what he pleases with evidence and the law.

Valerie Plame's memoirs could sell many books. Hopefully, her memoirs would reveal the corruption that takes place at the highest level of the federal government.

Here is some b.s. I listened to Joe wilson on the Diane Rehm show. Victoria Tensing was on the show ahd she gave information on covert and classified CIA agents. If your a CIA agent in a foreign land is one thing. If you are a CIA agent is another thing.

If you are in a foreign land as a CIA agent and do great damage and hurt but you come home you may not be an agent. What b.s.!!! If a foreign agent wants to kill you, he/she will not stop at the American border and say that the CIA agent is home and he/she is not an agent. You are or you are not an agent of the CIA in China, America, or tim-buck-too.

#12,

Is waterboarding a sport? Might not be right for Darth Cheney (use a microwave for him) but Mr. "runner, biker, cheerleader" it might be perfect?

HA!

capt

This is great country. You can vote but you can't be sure if it'll be counted.

Our great country has a Constitution and a Bill of Rights but according to our President the Constitution is just a piece of paper and the Bill of Rights is subject to the whim of a President with war authorization.

Not for nothing but SCOTUS has ruled twice: it is not a blank check and the president must follow the law of the land.

In this great country at the highest level of our government, a group called the The White House Iraq Group was formed and was led by the Vice President of the United States.

This WHIG decided to discredit an Iraq war criyic, and in the process out his wife, a CIA agent with non-official cover and classified status. In addition, her non-official cover Brewster Jennings was destroyed at no small cost to Americans in time, taxes and intelligence capability in nuclear weapon proliferation.

The Republican noise machine is so loud and effective, they've got patriotic americans cheering for the corrupt government war policy, for the petty politics of destruction, for the reporter who published classified information, and against the victims, two lifetime public servants.

Not waterboarding,how about sledge hammering? That makes a lot more sense, just start on the toes and keep it up until he tells the truth, if he can discern the difference. Might make a great reality show.

#15 O'Reilly, good post!

WMR says at least one of our people was killed because of it.

That is as high a crime and more than a misdemeanor.

Impeach the SOB and indict his crew on treason. He want to claim all this power because we are supposed to be at war well revealing an agent during a war is the very definition of treason.

capt

While it's true that Happy does have his head up his ass, I didn't post it. I'm here to blog with my friends not with trolls.

How to turn things around on Capital One

You’∂e probably heard about the Capital One lawsuits going on. Clark has talked about the system Capital One has to damage your credit. Well, now Capital One has stubbornly refused to modify its position. What happens is Capital One does not report the credit limit on your card. Why? It lowers your credit score and therefore destroys your credit image with other potential credit card companies. So, you’≤e more likely not to get approved for another card and will continue to use the Capital One card. By not reporting your limit, the credit bureaus guess your limit and that makes you very risky. Now a new lawsuit has been filed against the credit bureaus for reporting erroneous information on our reports. TransUnion, Equifax and Experian have some responsibility here, for sure. But it would be simple if Capital One just behaved itself. Clark has given Capital One the chance to come on air and talk about this, but they haven’¥ responded. So, you have to decide if you want to be their customer. If you’≤e currently a customer and you want to stay with them, you should charge a bunch of stuff to the card and pay it off. Then, moving forward, the credit bureaus will see and use that credit limit, sending your score back up. Clark will keep trying to come up with ways to manipulate the system, but for now that’≥ the only way you can turn the situation around.

More HERE

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Clark Howard is a real consumer advocate and he is well informed.

capt

Thanks Gerald. I've been working on that one for about two years.

Cornposters,

One would think that, with half the world in conflagration over the last five years, Mr. Corn could find a topic less trivial than his current thread.

I would guess, based upon the utter superficiality of their petition, that neither Mr. or Mrs. Plame have ever been involved in the civil legal system before. I can't wait for their depositions and crosses. I really don't believe they know the sheer, abject horror that awaits them.

There's an old expression that I believe to be particularly apt in this situtation: "Be careful what you wish for." No book deal is worth this.

Newt Gingrich has said that we are now in World War III. I happen to believe that it was started in 1979 under Carter, but mostly exacerbated under Reagan, neither of whom responded to terrorist attacks. No one expected the totally inept Carter (see malaise, stagflation, rabbits, etc.) to do anything - all the more reason that Reagan's response, or, rather, lack of one, was so heinous.

I'm not asking if you agree with Newt Gingrich politically; I am asking if you agree with his assessment of the current conditions.

Crude Oil Falls on Speculation Israel May Soon Stop Offensive

July 17 (Bloomberg) -- Crude oil fell 2.3 percent in New York, the biggest decline in five weeks, on speculation that Israel may stop its attack on Lebanon within days.

Israel's Channel 10 reported that a senior Israeli officer had said the offensive may end soon, according to Sky News, which also said an Israeli government spokeswoman denied the report. Oil surged to a record last week on concern that the hostilities might spread throughout the Middle East, a region that produce about 31 percent of the world's oil.

``The conflict hasn't spread to Syria and Iran, which was a major concern last week,'' said Kyle Cooper, director of research at IAF Advisors in Houston. ``The status quo in the Middle East hasn't changed. The situation is terrible but hasn't gotten worse.''

More HERE

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So the "peace dividend" is a drop in crude prices?

What kind of incentive is that for the energy oligarchs who are running the political show in the so-called free world?

capt

A Good Thing: high prices for crude oil are a Good Thing. High prices mean people have strong incentive to use less. Using less is a Good Thing.

Meanwhile, put Congress to work on an excess-profits tax. You know who it is to apply to...

Capt. I read the WMR article you posted about the death due to Novak's and other's disclosure.

I wonder if David or Murray Waas have done some digging on that issue. It seems to me more reports on that fact might get people's attention.

If I was next of kin, I'd file. Imagine the VP exposing a CIA agent for political retribution?

O'Reilly,

The first thing I thought was if they can come up with one American (from inside the NOC intelligence community) there are many more non-Americans and likely a few more Americans that we will ever know.

WMR has some good stuff but I would love to hear the names you list or really any others that have the investigative reporter skill and contacts.

WMR as a single source can only go so far even if he is right.

capt

I have said it before and I admit to being cynical but these slugs in power started a war of aggression and may have lit the fuse for global strife for years to come, they order the actions that have killed tens if not hundreds of thousands of human beings.

This Plame thing is nothing to them, treason is nothing to them, effin nuclear war is nothing to them, economic catastrophe is . . . well that is an opportunity to turn a good profit so they prefer some trouble.

They are sick warmonger war-profiteers and they live by the motto that they will protect themselves and their fortunes no matter how many people have to die. Heck they will get in on the ground level in cemeteries if they know they are going to launch a few nukes.

Lots of potential business, lots of potential profit. Does not matter what a dollar is worth as long as they make sure they have the most. To them that is socially responsibile.

capt

Naked repugs? Warning! not for the trolls! Quite disgusting indeed.

DB,

I thought the BTU tax of Al's was a good idea back then and look at what happened. The "energy" interests went nuts.

If we had done it Al's way there would be a real surplus and we could probably afford a war or two.

Since we have done it by the Busheney plan, the energy oligarchs make the money then loan it back to our government until it breaks our backs.

UGH!

capr

What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Gandhi

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Once and for all the idea of glorious victories won by the glorious army must be wiped out. Niether side is glorious. On either side they're just frightened men messing their pants and they all want the same thing - not to lie under the earth, but to walk upon it - without crutches: - Peter Weiss,

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Never think that war, no matter how necessary, nor how justified, is not a crime: Ernest Hemingway

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Thanks ICH Newsletter!

capt, I would have preferred a carbon tax. Didn't get that either. ;-(

We're Being Set Up for Wider War in the Middle East

The old adage, "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me" does not apply to Americans, who have shown that they can be endlessly fooled.

Neoconservatives deceived Americans into an illegal attack and debilitating war in Iraq. American neoconservatives are closely allied with Israel's Likud Party. In the past, some neocons lost their security clearances because of "mishandling" of classified information. According to Insight magazine, "the Pentagon has banned security clearance to Americans with relatives in Israel. Government sources and attorneys said the Pentagon has sought and succeeded in removing security clearance from dozens of Americans, mostly Jews, who either lived, worked, or have relatives in Israel."

Despite questions of dual loyalties, neocons hold high positions in the Bush regime. Ten years ago these architects of American foreign and military policy spelled out how they would use deception to achieve "important Israeli strategic objectives" in the Middle East. First, they would focus "on removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq." This would open the door for Israel to provoke attacks from Hezbollah. The attacks would let Israel gain American sympathy and permit Israel to seize the strategic initiative by "engaging Hezbollah, Syria, and Iran as the principal agents of aggression in Lebanon."

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No doubt, I believe this is part of the larger PNAC plan.

Warmongers love their wars, they just do not know how to stop. I am still wondering what is the end goal? Occupation? Control? More fear and terror?

Why is it we never hear the word "PEACE" come from any of the so-called world leaders?

If peace is their goal what do their actions say about them?

capt

Amy Goodman joins The Majority Report on Wednesday, July 19th at 8:06pm EST.

AAR email.

capt

I would assume from all the posts here that you believe that, whether you agree with this particular war or not, whether we started it or someone else started it, we are in a war.

Can we all agree that, prior to 1922, there was never even a country called Palestine? It has always been a geographical area like North America.

Can we all agree that, as far back as 1000 BC, there was a recognized Hebrew state in Palestine?

Can we all agree that, even today, Palestine is considered to be comprised of parts of Israel, Jordan and Egypt?

Can we all agree that it was the United Nations that divided Palestine into Jewish and Arab sections?

Can we all agree that Israel's neighboring Arab states, beginning in 1948, never agreed to the partition, and initially attacked in that year to eradicate Israel?

Can we all agree that one of Hezbollah's current stated objectives is the destruction of Israel?

Can we all agree that Hezbollah's main, if not only, patron is Iran, to the tune of about $60 million annually?

Can we all agree that it is not the Lebanese government or Lebanese army at war with Israel, but the well-armed militia of Hezbollah?

Do you agree with the Israeli proposition that if (1)Hezbollah is disarmed and (2)the kidnapped troops are returned, Israel will cease the war?

can we all agree that israel behaves in an atrocious manner toward it's neighbors, perpetrates false-flag terror events on itself and it's allies in order to demonize it's foes, crybabying foul now that iran has been trying to complete a nuclear power station while israel itself is in possession of over 200 nuclear weapons while being the only one of those countries that has not signed the nuclear nonproliferation treaty?
can we further agree that when iran is blamed for the next false-flag terror attack and a u.s. draft is implemented (not until after the election of course!) the only kids who will actually be drafted and put their lives on the line will be from the lower and middle classes?
are we agreed that no politco's kids will be drafted and put in danger?

i agree with anyone who says that israel should be wiped off the map.

Hmmmm. Trivial matter? Some people, with more insight and facts than a certain poster here, believe that outing Valerie Plame damaged U.S. national security, perhaps especially in the area of countering nuclear proliferation abroad.

Reportedly (by former & current intel officials), she worked on an operation involving tracking distribution & acquisition of WMD technology to/from Iran.

Trivial? Nuclear proliferation black market monitoring is trivial?

#34 Looks like even Olmert disagress with FC. Quick -- update the talking points!

Israel Softens Conditions for Cease-Fire
By Ravi Nessman
The Associated Press

Monday 17 July 2006

Jerusalem - Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Monday that the fighting in Lebanon would end when two Israeli soldiers were freed, rocket attacks stopped and the Lebanese army deployed along the border. But he appeared to scale back from previous demands for Hezbollah to be dismantled....

...Israeli officials have said publicly that Israel would not stop fighting until Hezbollah, a Shiite militia that controls much of south Lebanon, is dismantled. On Monday, Olmert said Hezbollah should be moved away from the border. His comments seemed to be a softening of Israel's earlier position, which could increase chances of a cease-fire.

Re #37, #38: Really, now? Really?

"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again."

George W. Bush

Video Here

War and Peace in the Middle East -- Rabbi Michael Lerner, Tikkun Magazine

Can we all agree that this article is worth reading? ;-))

spy. i'd settle for a less punitive and retribution-based policy. I can see why they donít tolerate terrorism. They have taken steps to vacate foreign land they occupy. Bush wants Israel to kill Hezbollah, which is Iranian-armed Syrian enabled Lebanese Shia. The collateral and civilian damage means nothing to these people. They view the damage being done to the fledgling democracy in Lebanon as unfortunate. The US will not step in and insist on prisoner exchange. The politics of war are revolting. Israel has the right to defend herself but does that include bombing innocent civilians?

43 micki, you read it and I'll read it and we'll let each other know. fc sure does his damnest to control the dialogue but no one wants to engage in that conversation. I wonder why.

42 RicK That's my favorite chimpy quote of all time.

micki, it was worth reading. The world heats, literally and figuratively...

"endless words of self-justification for yet another pointless round of violence between Israel and her neighbors."

When you have an enemy who is so cowardly as to hide behind women and children, of course there will be civilian casualties. Ask the enemy to put on a uniform and fight like a real army and what do you get? Cowards. Sadly, the civilians pay for the cowardice of those who actually mean them the most harm because bleeding heart liberals around the world will denounce the loss of civilians when in fact, they are shielding the "brave soldiers." Get real. They are all cowards, otherwise they would put on a uniform. Pathetic putz's Hezbollah, Hammas and Al Queda are. They are not brave, they are cowards.

And another thing, when there is a nation called Hezbollah, Hamas, and Al Queda, their soldiers will be afforded rights under the Geneva Convention. Provided their respective nations become signatories. Until then, they are target practice for their enemy.

Am I to believe that you all put stock into the same scientists, experts, et al that were were predcting an impending ice age no less than 30 years ago? Surely not! There is money in fear. Why do you think Jesse, Al and The Rev Louie keep beating those racial drums? Why, they'd be poor if it weren't for all those poor people contributing to their idiocy! I thought you Cornposters were brighter than that. Now I think you are dimmer than Bush 43.

Some legal analysis of the Plame suit here.

Some excerpts:

"If it gets to that point, expect everyone even remotely related to this story to get subpoenaed by one side or the other."

As in Mr. David Corn, among others.

"I personally would pay good money for a ringside seat to Dick Cheney's deposition. If it happens, it just might be the most contentious deposition of all time."

For authoritative information on climate, see

Real Climate

and if that is too tecchnical for you, go to the sidebar and click on

All Things Ill Considered

There Coby, who is a very well informed amateur has separate threads on all aspects of climate. Furthermore, he often answers questions posted in the comments section of each thread.

Deaths mount as Israel, Hezbollah trade attacks

Israel has attacked Hezbollah offices and the headquarters of the group's leader. But 1,500 airstrikes have also targeted a lighthouse, grain silos, power plants, bridges, airports and a truck packed with children, targets with no apparent relationship to Hezbollah.

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I can understand some of the other targets but the grain silos? WTF?

Those grain silos are not military targets they are civilian. Did the grain belong to an NGO, the UN or could it be aid from Syria or Iran. What excuse do they have for such a act?

I wonder . . .

capt

Al Gore an authority on Global Warming? This is a man who couldn't decide who he was in the 2000 election. Now he is an authority on global climate. Good one.

Collateral damage, come on!

From the previous thread, by David Benson. Bravo posting beyond 500. capt/gerald were half of them. You should not cheer so loudly.

Okay, maybe not half, more likely 3/5's. Either way, nothing to cheer about.

Ok, capt, here is a bit of sleuthing for you. Why associate

1033 with ROSS
1007 with MONROE

Cheer me on David. We may get beyond 500 tonight!
I'll need a lot of help from the capt/gerald show.

The big dig collapses and kills. Democrats and Unions in charge of project. What did you expect?

Thank you for the forum, David. I find the comments here much like the comedy channel of the internet. Not your writing, just the comments. Very humorous indeed.

Cornposters,

Your outrage is selective. I make a very calculated racial slur, one used to out an individual as a hypocrite, and I am properly excoriated by the entire blog.

And, yet, when a truly unhinged Cornposter at #35 calls for the eradication of an entire people, not one peep.

Do you understand why there is a certain lack of credibility at this blog?

When you have an enemy who is so cowardly as to hide behind women and children, of course there will be civilian casualties.

who was hiding behind the 14 yr old iraqi girl when she was raped by a u.s. soldier and then set on fire to cover his crime while his peers watched?

should the iraqi insurgents have to pay for these official uniforms out of their own pockets while they don't even have enough food to eat or clean water to drink?

what the eff are u.s. troops still doing over there? they didn't find any WMD so they should have come home. the fact that they haven't come home proves that the search for WMD was a mere pretense for this occupation of iraq.

the moron terror.

Credibility? No such thing here. This is a site for humor only. Do not wish for serious dialect here. Move on, dot org. For more humor.

David, do I get credit for the post from spy posting to a troll? I get a kick out of him/her/it. That is my contribution to political correctness this evening. If he/she/it posts to me again, I will not be so politically correct.

the israelis behave in a terrible manner to those around them and they have stated many times that arabs are dogs and that iran should be wiped off the map. the israelis are crybaby hypocrites and i hope that none of your children get conscripted to fight and die defending their evil collective ass. i didn't call them spics or beanys or whatever it was that you found so hilarious factchecker. nor did i call for the eradication of an entire people. check your facts next time before putting them in your mouth.

Here is my contribution to the capt/gerald show. Scroll past. Do any of you here read such idiocy?

emmerson you have just as much as admitted that you find humor in the 14 yr old iraqi girl's rape and burning to death. you are pathetic and god help you if one of your children dies a painful DU death far away from home just so some offense contractors can make even more $$ by the perpetuation of needless war.

Approaching 75. Let's hear a "high five" for posts. You folks will cheer for anything except for the United States of America. As Brisco Darling once said, "Just so's I know where you stand." David, check please.

I don't post to Cornnuts. David, check?

Been watching tv all evening and watching the war in the middle east. Where do these countries get all these bombs? I know the United State supplies Israel, but do we also sell to the other middle eastern countries, or do they come from Russia or China?

Thanks for your service David. Here is your tip...Plant your corn on a full moon. Greater yield at harvest time.

All the missiles come from the U.S. Haven't you received your talking points? Thanks for a good evening, David. Gotta go now.

#54

Thanks for the interesting link on the Wilson/Plame civil suit.

I love the quote at the top of the site:

"The essence of the Liberal outlook lies not in what opinions are held, but in how they are held: instead of being held dogmatically, they are held tentatively, and with a consciousness that new evidence may at any moment lead to their abandonment." - Bertrand Russell

Chants of hyporcite! and no credibility! ring out from trolls o'er corn land. Regulars wait in their bunkers for the attacks to subside... when trolls retire for the night. Spy! catch you later. Don't take the bait. It's not worth it.

And what do you do when you come out of your bunker, Archie? Dingbat!

At # 69, spy on this says thusly:

"nor did i call for the eradication of an entire people. check your facts next time before putting them in your mouth."

But at # 35, he says the following:

"i agree with anyone who says that israel should be wiped off the map."

Do you folks begin to see why many of you have such an enormous credibility problem? I mean, this guy can't even remember what he says in a three-hour interval.

And still no condemnation of his remarks at 35?

Whoa! I don't cheer for any group, any country, any organization to be "wiped off the map."

That phrase, that colloquialism is very, very destructive and has its origins in violent actions. That means to destroy completely, to annihilate.

How does that fit in with being anti-war? Or pro-peace?

That kind of rhetoric should be toned down. Please.

Or did I misunderstand something?

Why do we have to condemn? Why not search for understanding and common ground? FC, you egg people on all the time here. Why don't you address Spy! and ask for clarification? Maybe Spy! has an explanation. Maybe he doesn't, but ask him. What good does it do to try to get us to condemn him? That's a bushevikian tactic if there ever was one.

I make a very calculated racial slur...

Oh, all right then! That's certainly much better than an off-the-cuff, everyday ordinary racial slur. Yes sir, that's the way we like our racial slurs, planned and premeditated. Those random and thoughtless racial slurs are just so, well, quaint. Calculated racial slurs are so much more modern and acceptable. It's like comparing an old crusty redneck like George Wallace to a slick, hip dude like David Duke. Please, factchecker, continue to provide us with the genius of your intricately plotted racial slurs. I don't know how we ever did without them!

84 Micki, I completely agree with your questions:

Why not search for understanding and common ground? FC, you egg people on all the time here. Why don't you address Spy! and ask for clarification? Maybe Spy! has an explanation. Maybe he doesn't, but ask him. What good does it do to try to get us to condemn him?

Time will tell if you're onto something here or just pissing in the wind.

85 Touche Don. I buy my slurs at 7/11. I like 'cherry wetback' and 'lemon nip'. Oh, did you say slur? I thought you said slur-py.

spy 35, a BIG AMEN to that! Israel has the right to defend herself? Israel is the aggressor, and always has been. Israel wants it all, they don't believe in sharing.

The Pioneers of Terrorism
Some rarely-mentioned facts about the relationship between Zionism and modern-day terrorism:

1. The first aircraft hijacking was carried out by Israel in 1954 against a Syrian civilian airliner.

2. Grenades in cafes: first used by Zionists against Palestinians in Jerusalem on 17 March 1937.

3. Delayed-action, electrically timed mines in crowded marketplaces: first used by Zionists against Palestinians in Haifa on 6 July 1938.

4. Blowing up a ship with its civilian passengers still on board: first carried out by Zionists in Haifa on 25 November 1940. The Zionists did not hesitate to blow up their own people in protest at the British policy of restricting Jewish immigration to Palestine. The ship, Patria, was carrying 1,700 Jewish immigrants.

5. Assassination of government officials: first carried out by the Zionists against the British in Cairo, when on 6 November 1944 Lord Moyne was assassinated by the Stern Gang. Yitzhak Shamir, a member of the Irgun and later leader of the Stern Gang and Israeli prime minister, was behind the plan and assassination.

6. Use of civilian hostages as a means of putting pressure on a government: first used by the Zionists against the British in Tel Aviv on 18 June 1946.

7. Blowing up of government offices with their civilian employees and visitors: first carried out by the Zionists against the British in Jerusalem on 22 July 1946. The toll was 91 Britons killed and 46 wounded in the King David Hotel. Menachim Begin, who masterminded and carried out the attack and later became Israeli prime minister, admitted that the massacre was coordinated with and carried out under the instruction of the Haganah Zionist gang.

8. Booby-trapped suitcases: first used by the Zionists against the British Embassy in Rome on 13 October 1946.

9. Booby-trapped cars in civilian areas: first used by the Zionists against the British in Sarafand (east of Jaffa) on 5 December 1946.

10. Beating of hostages: first used by the Zionists against the British in Tel Aviv, Netanya and Rishon on 29 December 1946.

11. Letter bombs sent to politicians: first used by the Zionists against Britain when 20 letter bombs were sent from Italy to London between 4 and 6 June 1947.

12. Murder of hostages as a reprisal for government actions: first used by the Zionists against the British in the Netanya area on 29 July 1947.

13. Postal parcel bombs: first used by the Zionists against the British in London on 3 September 1947.

14. The massacre of Qibya, northwest of Jerusalem, was carried out by Unit 101, under the command of Ariel Sharon on Wednesday 14 October 1953. The attack was the bloodiest and most brutal Zionist crimes since the infamous Deir Yassin massacre. Forty-two houses as well as a school and a mosque were dynamited over their inhabitants. Seventy-five women, men and children were killed.
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The people of the world are waking up to the crimes against humanity that these people are guilty of. It is time to put a stop to this.

Does anyone know Bob Stanford of Slurpee fame? Bob was a marketing man at Southland Corporation -- owners of 7-Eleven -- and came up with the name and the slogan for Slurpee. "Have you slurped today?"

#80,

The SPOOFER that posted such a thing is not even good at their deception.

It is not me. I have never posted as "capt kirk" but curiously they used my email address? Hmmm.

Better luck next time.

capt

*laughs at the poll question*... how's he handling the hot spots... like he actually 'handles' anything.

How would you rate...

How would you rate his response to the conflict between Israel and Hezbollah?
Poor 48%
Excellent 26%
Good 16%
Fair 10%
Total Votes: 286,372

How would you rate his response to North Korea's nuclear program?
Poor 52%
Excellent 20%
Good 16%
Fair 11%
Total Votes: 285,412

How would you rate his response to Iran's nuclear program?
Poor 55%
Excellent 19%
Good 15%
Fair 11%
Total Votes: 273,907

How would you rate his handling of the war in Iraq?
Poor 61%
Excellent 19%
Good 14%
Fair 7%
Total Votes: 275,752

Bill Kristol is a maniac

Capt. Spoofers have been at it today right from the beggining of the thread. When I read us Cornuts are at the same place as spy I knew it wasn't your post. Among other things, you would have used the correct personal pronoun. When the trolls don't get the fight they're itching for, they resort to other provocations.

How the hell are ya? This heat is something else.

Prominent right-wing blogger today calls for the murder of Supreme Court Justices - the Right fails to condemn it

Hint: This article is a satire.

Stem Cell Research Funding - Support

The Senate plans votes in July on three stem cell research related bills. The bills relate to types of research to allow as well as providing funding for certain research. Let Congress and President Bush know your views.

More HERE

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There are both options. You can send your comments in support of or against federal funding for stem cell research. It is important to note that the stem cell lines that Bush has allowed are contaminated with mouse genetic material and are also years old and not viable for some of the things the researchers want to study.

capt

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The axis of weasels

i say it again: israel should be wiped off the map.
those are the very words that israel itself has used many times when referring to iran.
tit for tat and that is that.
i despise the israeli's brutality toward palestinians. i don't care for the false-flag terror that seems to be the preferred tactic of the IDF/mossad. nor do i care for the spying on of u.s. intelligence by israel and the selling of that information to china/russia. and i certainly hold no truck with american politicos and their obvious constant beholdened pandering to the state of israel. and the thought that israel has over 200 nuclear weapons yet has refused to sign the non-proliferation treaty while at the same time trying to demonize their arab neighbors is in my opinion far beyond the pale.
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i sneer at your condemnation and scorn your misplaced false-flag patriotism.

O'Reilly,

I have been in CRAZYTOWN!

The asylum has been just plain nuts for a few days.

I picked a bad week to stop the thorazine!

capt

The insane brutality of the State of Israel

A pantomime president

Re: the heat

I am MELTING! (wicked witch)

The A/C has been working overtime. We had some weather - actually a lot of rain so flooding (desert) and the high humidity makes our very old A/C freeze up.

Today over 100 but lower humidity so the A/C has been keeping it around 70.

So today I cannot complain.

capt

capt,

I immediately recognized that post as bogus. I was about to call it out, but decided that I didn't want to dignify it. The idiocy of the post suggests one of our resident trolls, and I have been trying (unsuccessfully at times) to ignore them as of late. Anyway, it's basically pretty easy to identify a spoofer (#80) vs. a post from a real person (#7). Cheers!

i forgot to clarify -
when i said israel should be wiped off the map i meant that in the exact same way that israel means it everytime they say it in reference to one of their neighbors.

The rough capt. I hope you find some relaxation and comfort blogging with friends.

WW III

Repairing American Democracy

Drop me an email with your address and I can tell you just how crazy it has been. Personal stuff just not bloggable.

But yes, I do find enjoyment and peace here.

Thanks

capt

Rice: Cease-fire won't help

WASHINGTON - The United States government continued yesterday to monitor developments in Lebanon, but the only practical measure it took was sending a task force to Beirut to plan the evacuation of U.S. nationals should that become necessary.

Regarding the war itself, it was hard to misjudge the mood in Washington. U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said she didn't see how the immediate cease-fire that Lebanon has called for would solve the problem. She also said that in a conversation with Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, she expressed concern about civilian casualties in Lebanon.

There were no calls on Israel from the American administration to halt its attacks yesterday. U.S. President George W. Bush has in recent days repeatedly accused Iran and Syria of fomenting the crisis.

More HERE

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Well I guess if Rice says a cease-fire will not help she is saying IT IS ON? Non-stop exchange of missiles and bombs?

She is a GOP ZOMBIE - dead inside.

AAAARRRRGGGGHHH!

capt

Someone's (animation)

"Zombie"

Another head hangs lowly,
Child is slowly taken.
And the violence caused such silence,
Who are we mistaken?

But you see, it's not me, it's not my family.
In your head, in your head they are fighting,
With their tanks and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In your head, in your head, they are crying...

In your head, in your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie,
Hey, hey, hey. What's in your head,
In your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie?
Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, dou, dou, dou, dou, dou...

Another mother's breakin',
Heart is taking over.
When the vi'lence causes silence,
We must be mistaken.

It's the same old theme since nineteen-sixteen.
In your head, in your head they're still fighting,
With their tanks and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In your head, in your head, they are dying...

In your head, in your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie,
Hey, hey, hey. What's in your head,
In your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie?
Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, oh, oh,
Oh, oh, oh, oh, hey, oh, ya, ya-a...

~ CRANBERRIES

A pantomime president

From North Korea to Iraq to Lebanon, George Bush's lack of policy has led to a string of disasters

President Bush was against diplomacy before he was for it. But with the collapse of US foreign policy from the Middle East to North Korea he has claimed to have become a born-again realist. "And it's, kind of ... painful ... for some to watch, because it takes a while to get people on the same page," he said at his July 7 press conference, adding, in an astonished tone, "Not everybody thinks the exact same way we think. Different words mean different things to different people."

Two years ago at the Republican convention he boasted of his "swagger, which in Texas is called walking". But in the face of the consequences of his failures, he has swaggered into a corner.

In a befuddled response to Israel's reoccupation of Gaza and bombing of Lebanon, the secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice, asked for restraint while the president offered support. Bush has regressed to embracing no policy, just as he did when he first entered office. His failure to give the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, any tangible gains to show his electorate helped Hamas win. Now the US's abandonment of any peace process is yielding a downward spiral of mutual recrimination in the region.

Similarly, on Iraq, Bush has returned to mouthing inane platitudes about "victory". He promises to "defeat" the enemy while ignoring his generals' admonition that a political solution is critical as Iraq descends into civil war.

More HERE

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This is the most inept and incapable misadministration. They have no business stealing our elections to enrich themselves and their cronies.

Bush will break under the stress of his own mismanagement. He will be shacking up with JD and his petty dry-drunk ways will become completely unhinged as he lashes out at his own failure. He does not care how many people have to die, he will prove his daddy was too soft. That is going to be very bad for all of us and the rest of the planet.

How far can we let him go? All the way? Will we let him push the button? He has already said his mess will have to be cleaned up by someone else. How much incompetence can we endure? How many have to die for no reason except to serve his insane ideas? Can we stop him?

capt

Why is it that David Corn is not writing about the war raging in Lebanon started by Israel? Why?

#92 Gerald..Bill Kristol is truely a maniac, a psychopath, he should be behind bars or on the front lines of the wars that he pushes hard for.

Kathleen Christison has studied the Palestinian/Israeli conflict for a long time. She has seen a great deal.

Although I find her article lacks a deeper look at the psyche of Jews who have experienced unbelievable trauma, via WWII. While I do not believe that if a person or peoples have been raped , beaten, traumatized, that that should be used as an excuse to treat others in the same manner. The Palestinians have and continue to be traumatized. Many of the original terroist (Ariel Sharon, Moshe Dayan, Ben Gurion) who pushed traumatized and killed Palestinians for Israel during Israel's birth as a nation, became the leaders in Israels government.

David Corn "A private lawsuit is often an imperfect device to dig out the full story of any controversy. But this one is a reminder that the public has not yet received a full and official accounting of the leak case."

Thank goodness the Wilson's are willing to follow through. We are reminded of how many investigations have all ready been conducted due to the Bush administrations and abuses. We are also reminded that this Republican controlled congress is more interested in investigating lies about a blow job not about the undermining of the U.S. National Security by the Bush administration.

wilsonsupport.org

To help Ambassador Joseph Wilson and Valerie Plame Wilson pay for the substantial legal costs associated with the illegal leaking of Mrs. Wilson’s classified CIA status. This includes:

Counseling them for their potential witness testimony during the upcoming trial of Scooter Libby; and

Helping them to prepare for a civil suit that would uncover the truth surrounding the leak, ensure all relevant public officials are held accountable for actions depriving the Wilsons of their privacy and constitutional rights, and serve as a deterrent to similar crimes being committed in the future.
Should the civil action result in a payment to Joe and/or Valerie Wilson that is in excess of all costs associated with their legal activities, the equivalent of all monies contributed to the Trust will be returned to the Trust. All Trust money will then be distributed by the trustees to a charitable organization(s) that works to protect government whistleblowers’ First Amendment rights and helps to defend them from retaliatory action.

AMY GOODMAN WILL BE INTERVIEWING PRESIDENT BASHAR AL ASSAD OF SYRIA TODAY...GO AMY (A WOMAN COMMITTED TO FACTS AND ACCURACY)

Rabbi Lerner's wise words hits the nail on the head once again.

End the Suffering in the Middle East By Rabbi Michael Lerner/Tikkun Sunday 16 July 2006

The people of the Middle East are suffering again as militarists on all sides, and cheerleading journalists, send forth missiles, bombs and endless words of self-justification for yet another pointless round of violence between Israel and her neighbors. For those of us who care deeply about human suffering, this most recent episode in irrationality evokes tears of sadness, incredulity at the lack of empathy on all sides, anger at how little anyone seems to have learned from the past, and moments of despair as we once again see the religious and democratic ideals subordinated to the cynical realism of militarism.

Meanwhile, the partisans on each side, content to ignore the humanity of "the Other," rush to assure their constituencies that the enemy is always to blame. Each such effort is pointless. We have a struggle that has been going on for over a hundred years. Who tosses the latest match into the tinder box matters little. What matters is how to repair the situation. The blame game only succeeds in diverting attention from that central issue.

at truth out

spy on this says at #106:

"i forgot to clarify - when i said israel should be wiped off the map i meant that in the exact same way that israel means it everytime they say it in reference to one of their neighbors."

Pardon me, but I missed that quote from any of the Israeli leaders. Please reference.

Micheal Rubin is another "war pusher psychopath"..he should put an Israeli military uniform. That is who he works for Israel. He truely has a dual loyalty, although Israel always comes first.

July 17, 2006, 5:50 a.m.
Eradication First
Before diplomacy.By Michael Rubin
As bombs continue to drop on Lebanon and rockets on Israel, the West has begun to lose its resolve. On July 14, French president Jacques Chirac condemned Israelճ military action as ңompletely disproportionate.ӠRussian President Vladimir Putin called Israelճ ҵse of full-scale forceӠunacceptable. While President George W. Bush stood firm in his moral clarity, the State Department was more cautious. ҉t is extremely important that Israel exercise restraint in its acts of self defense,ӠCondoleezza Rice told reporters on July 13.

at National Review

Israel’≥ Moment, the Free World’≥ Gain
We are all Israelis now.

By Larry Kudlow

All of us in the free world owe Israel an enormous thank-you for defending freedom, democracy, and security against the Iranian cat’≥-paw wholly-owned terrorist subsidiaries Hezbollah and Hamas. Israel is doing the Lord’≥ work. They are defending their own homeland and very existence, but they are also defending America’≥ homeland as our frontline democratic ally in the Middle East. Commentary’≥ Norman Podhoretz was exactly right when he coined the term World War IV to describe the global terror conflict. Repeatedly hostile actions by the totalitarians in Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, Hamas, and North Korea are all connected. So are the recently foiled terrorist-cell-block plans in Canada, the U.S., London, and elsewhere around the globe. We are fortunate to have a staunch ally like Israel to assist us in this fight.

More Israeli firsters at National Review...

Bush eats like a pig! Chewing, smacking his lips, all the while talking (shyt) to Tony boy. His mama sure did not teach him manners. Rude, crude and downright unlikeable.

Company fined $6,000 for
not reporting customer's question

A Missouri company has been fined $6,000 for not reporting a customer's question to the federal government. The question that's punished by law is: Are any of these products made in Israel, or made of Israeli materials?

The Kansas City Star reports:
The anti-boycott provisions bar U.S. companies from providing information about their business relationships with Israel. They also require that receipt of boycott requests be reported to the Bureau of Industry and Security, formerly known as the Bureau of Export Administration.
We ask: Why is this question forbidden? Why is any question forbidden?

It sounds more like the USSR than the USA, to punish people for asking a forbidden question, or for not immediately reporting to the government that someone else asked a forbidden question.

Only a few years ago, during South Africa's apartheid era, it was considered the height of good moral backbone to ask whether a product came from that country. Today, many Americans are asking such questions about products they suspect came from France, after the French government declined to join "Operation Iraqi Freedom."

The newspaper's article doesn't make it clear whether these restrictions apply only to US companies selling stuff outside the US, or whether the law applies to everyone. Either way, it's reprehensible.
Editor's note: Here's what the US Office of Antiboycott Compliance says: "The antiboycott provisions of the Export Administration Regulations (EAR) apply to all "U.S. persons," defined to include individuals and companies located in the United States and their foreign affiliates. ..."

And here's a press release from the US Department of Commerce: "Commerce Under Secretary for Industry and Security Kenneth I. Juster today reiterated to U.S. companies that the Department will vigorously enforce its regulations prohibiting U.S. persons from taking any action in support of foreign government boycotts against Israel. ..."
If K-Mart is having a sale on cheap plastic chess sets and we ask the clerk whether the board or pieces were made in Israel, is the clerk allowed to answer? Must the store promptly file a form with the Bureau of Industry and Security reporting that we asked?

Well, we'll be asking the forbidden question in every store we enter. Not because we're boycotting Israel, we're not. Heck, if we were boycotting products from countries whose policies are abhorrent, we'd start by boycotting anything marked "made in USA."

We'll be asking the forbidden question because we believe in freedom. In a free society, the government doesn't tell people what questions they can ask, and what questions they can't, and what questions must be promptly reported to the authorities.

We had heard of this law before, banning people from even asking about boycotting Israeli products, but we had foolishly assumed it wasn't often enforced.

According to the article, though, "more than $26 million in fines" have been levied for violations of this law, suggesting that enforcement of the Forbidden Question Law is not at all uncommon. The fine in this case was $6,000, so assuming that's average and doing the math, more than 4,000 Americans or American companies have been fined, for asking the forbidden question, or failure to report that someone else asked the forbidden question.
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Poor, gullible Americans. You really believe the Zionist regime of Israel is your friend? You must also believe the Zionist Bush regime are your friends as well. These Fascist Neocons, of both terrorist states, are slaughtering your children by the thousands, destroying entire civilizations, raping and pillaging countries, bankrupting your nation, abandoning your poor, your elderly and your returning veterans, laying to waste your wonderful constitution and your bill of rights, installing a virtual police state where everyone is a potential terrorist, all in the name of freedom and democracy. And yet you still call them friend? The day is coming when you will learn that the United States is nothing more than Israel's whore, and they do just as Israel tells them to do. Do you dare ask the "forbidden" question? How do you like your freedom now?

George W. Bush claimed "remarkable developments" in the Middle East. "In the last five months, we have witnessed successful elections in Afghanistan, the Palestinian Territory and Iraq; peaceful demonstrations on the streets of Beirut; and steps toward democratic reform in Egypt and Saudi Arabia. The trend is clear: In the Middle East and throughout the world, freedom is on the march." Radio Address: March 5, 2005

The question is, why have so many Americans fallen for his shit? Our country is teeming with wrong-headed jingoists headed for bigger disasters and we keep on snoozin' through those lazy, crazy days of summer.

Condi pontificates that a cease-fire will not solve "the problem," as though to suggest the course of action will be to STAY THE COURSE even though the course is an unmitigated failure. Are thereANY sane heads in positions of leadership? (Maybe the answer to that question is stuck in Ted Stevens' Internet Tube.)

Israel pounds Lebanon

Lebanon has repeatedly called for an immediate ceasefire, but world powers said any solution to the crisis must include the release of the two soldiers. Israel also wants Hezbollah to disarm in line with UN Security Council resolutions.

The Beirut Government is too weak and divided to force Hezbollah to yield to such demands.

The Shiite group wants to swap the soldiers for Lebanese and Arab prisoners in Israeli jails. Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni said Hezbollah must free its two captives unconditionally.

More HERE

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No reason for a cease fire, not as long as Bush and Rice say a cease fire will not help.

capt

Pardon me, but I missed that quote from any of the Israeli leaders. Please reference.
Posted by: factchecker at July 18, 2006 09:32 AM

Trolls asking for links! That's RICH.

FC, when you link and LBH when you link then your requests for others to link will have merit.

Capt., @ 109, and Micki 121,

You have both articulated the notion that I wanted to express, the absurdity of Rice's comments that a cease-fire wouldn't help.

As peace is always preferrable to war, especially for the innocent populations caught between militant factions, a cease-fire is always to be sought in situations of armed conflict. As a matter of policy, for the country which claims to be world leader in matters moral, such as human rights, spreading democracy and freedom, etc., ad naeuseum, to take any other position other than immediate cease fire is to further weaken our already shredded and tattered national image.

“We cannot avoid using power, cannot escape the compulsion to aflict the world so let us, cautious in diction and mighty in contradiction, love powerfully” - Martin Buber

Train bombers 'funded by British businessmen'

Indian officials claim that bogus charities are sending $8m to Kashmiri terror groups


SOME of the main fundraisers for the terror group suspected of masterminding the Bombay train bombings are operating from Britain, according to Indian intelligence officials.

The officials accuse Britain of failing to act against a number of wealthy businessmen, who they claim are using bogus charities to funnel up to $8 million a year to Kashmiri militants groups, such as Lashkar-e-Taiba, which remains the main suspect for orchestrating the synchronised bombings that killed 182 people.

Manmohan Singh, the Indian Prime Minister, raised the terror link with Tony Blair at the G8 summit in St Petersburg yesterday, reminding him that India handed over a detailed dossier three years ago identifying 14 men living in Britain and was assured the suspects would be investigated.

"Since then nothing has been done, and the money still coming from Britain helps to pay for the terrorist camps where we believe the bombers were trained and this atrocity was planned," a senior Indian security official said last night.

More HERE

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I assume these are Al Qaeda British businessmen?

capt

Taliban forces take control of two towns in Afghanistan: report

Taliban forces have taken over two towns in the southern part of the country, local media reported.

Scores of Taliban fighters on Sunday entered the southern Helmand town of Garmser, forcing a small security force to flee and then taking control of the area, the report said, quoting a local official.

Meanwhile, the U.S. military said in a statement that one coalition soldier was killed and 11 were wounded in separate fightings Monday.

The clash took place in the Tirin Kot district of Uruzgan province after coalition forces attacked and destroyed a truck that militants were loading with mortar equipment, the statement said.

The bloodshed came amid Afghanistan's deadliest violence since the late 2001 ouster of the Taliban. More than 800 people, mostly militants, have been killed since mid-May.

More HERE

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And as a result of the United States military, Taliban no longer is in existence. And the people of Afghanistan are now free. (Applause.) In other words when you say something as President you better make it clear so everybody understands what you're saying, and you better mean what you say. And I meant what I said. (Applause.)

capt

Harris Now Target of Federal Investigation?

Is that the sound of the band warming up?

It looks like the Justice Department finally may have become as fascinated by Rep. Katherine Harris' (R-FL) deeds as we have been, lo these many months. Justice Department lawyers and FBI agents have recently interviewed Ed Rollins, Harris' former Senate campaign manager, about her dealings with admitted briber Mitchell Wade and his company, MZM, the Orlando Sentinel confirms today.

It has been hard to imagine that the feds weren't interested in Harris, given what was already in the public record about her activities (in no small part thanks to Rollins): how she took thousands of dollars in bundled donations from Wade, ate thousand-dollar meals with the guy, and tried to insert earmarks to benefit his company.

The news of Rollins' tete-a-tete with the feds is the strongest indication to date that Harris is likely facing a very unpleasant federal probe. Thank goodness she's already picked out her super-expensive D.C. insider lawyer.

More HERE

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I think Harris is in some deep Qaqaa.

capt

Washington State Guv Sends Alberto Gonzales $50 million Invoice

Looks like the GOPhers will be taking steps against our Blue State any day now...

Is Damascus the Key?
Beirut Waits
By ROBERT FISK

It's about Syria. That was the frightening message delivered by Damascus yesterday when it allowed its Hizbollah allies to cross the UN Blue Line in southern Lebanon, kill three Israeli soldiers, capture two others and demand the release of Lebanese prisoners in Israeli jails.

Within hours, a country that had begun to believe in peace--without a single Syrian soldier left on its soil--found itself once more at war.

Israel held the powerless Lebanese government responsible--as if the sectarian and divided cabinet in Beirut can control Hizbollah. That is Syria's message. Fouad Siniora, Lebanon's affable Prime Minister, may have thought he was running the country but it is President Bashar Assad in Damascus who can still bring life or death to a land that lost 150,000 lives in 15 years of civil conflict.

And there is one certain bet that Syria will rely on; that despite all Israel's threats of inflicting "pain" on Lebanon, this war will run out of control until--as has so often happened in the past--Israel itself calls for a ceasefire and releases prisoners. Then the international big-hitters will arrive and make their way to the real Lebanese capital Damascus, not Beirut--and appeal for help.

at counterpunch

BOYCOTT ISRAELI GOODS
A campaign to divest from Israel and to boycott Israeli products and leisure tourism has gathered momentum across the globe. Money talks. Many will abandon their support of Israel if their economic interests are threatened. These boycott campaigns will continue to grow until Israel

1. withdraws from the occupied areas,
2. respects human rights (including right of refugees to return to their homes and lands),
3. and obeys International law.

In addition to their economic effects, activists can and have used boycotts and divestment campaigns as educational tools. Universities, business people, and consumers are educated about the support we provide Israeli aggression by our purchases and investments. Reports from activists have been encouraging and are analogous to the early successes that snowballed into the pressure on South Africa that ended Apartheid. Join us and together we will succeed to bring peace with justice to all people in the Middle East. As repeatedly quoted: "Think Globally and Act Locally." To join the group of activists across the globe organizing this campaign, send a blank email message to: BoycottIsraeliGoods-

factchecker takes umbrage, not with the evil brutality of the israelis towards the rest of humanity, but rather with what he perceives as hypocrisy on my part for excoriating him for his use of the term wetback and then my turning around and daring to suggest israel should be wiped from the map - too bad factchecker. i will survive your insinuations of hypocrisy on my part. the palestinian people will not survive israeli brutality.
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"One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." -- Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 [Source: N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1]

In Testimony, Gonzales Says Bush Blocked Inquiry

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said Tuesday that President Bush personally blocked Justice Department lawyers from pursuing an internal probe of the warrantless eavesdropping program that monitors Americans' international calls and e-mails when terrorism is suspected.

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The FISA statute specifies that it is to be the exclusive means of authorization.

The Executive Dept. ignored the statute.

The power of the Executive Dept. resides in the presidency.

The unitary theory also, therefore, places responsibility with the presidency.

Impeachment, a peach which is ripe for the picking.

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Has anyone else seen this yet?

First, it's the "yo, Blair" discussion, and now he's giving "impromptu massages" to female heads of state. Damn, but the man is an idiot. It's an embarrassment.

Robert Jensen: 'Florida's fear of history'

[...]

So, as part of an education bill signed into law by Gov. Jeb Bush, Florida has declared that "American history shall be viewed as factual, not as constructed." That factual history, the law states, shall be viewed as "knowable, teachable and testable."

Florida's lawmakers are not only prescribing a specific view of U.S. history that must be taught (my favorite among the specific commands in the law is the one about instructing students on "the nature and importance of free enterprise to the United States economy"), but are trying to legislate out of existence any ideas to the contrary. They are not just saying that their history is the best history, but that it is beyond interpretation. In fact, the law attempts to suppress discussion of the very idea that history is interpretation.

[...]

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Scary shit. Remember, only a legislator could concieve of the notion that a stimulant is also a narcotic simultainiously.

Don @126 -- What on earth? bush is nuttier than I thought -- and a PIG to boot!

Bush: Liebes-Attacke auf Merkel! US-PrÔøΩsident fliegt auf unsere Kanzlerin Diese politische Liebe ist sprichwÔøΩrtlich zum Greifen!

Merkel is NOT amused!

#126,

OMG!

Frat-boy goes to the G8?

"I thought you were going to ask me about the pig"?

"If Syria stopped their shit"

"I held Merkels shoulders and knew her soul?"

This just in: German Secret Service tackles American president. Merkel's body guards thought Bush was choking Merkel and slammed American president Bush to the ground. Turns our Bush was armed with a Mr. Salty Pretzel.

President Bush kept calling the pretzel mister, mister. An American secret service officer speaking off the record said "He thinks it (the pretzel) is some kind of talisman" adding "we are not allowed to ask any questions."

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#126 - It was just a little suggestion he picked up from the Gropenator...

James,

The Democrats have much to hide. They're playing the same game with all of that money involvement. A good thinking person knows, whenever money's involved, well there goes the ballpark.

Still, we can hold their fannies closer to the fire. You spout this agenda? As De Niro might say, "you talkin' to me?"

That's what we'll have to do with Kerry in 2008. Don't listen to people who take money from you. (Political consultants.) Show emotion, be a leader, get people with a stirring speech. That was Bill C.'s touch. As it was Kennedy's and Carter's. But for god's sakes, be a little discreet about the women. All married men out there, you did not hear me say that.

Don't fear, Hillary Clinton won't be the nominee. Way too much baggage.

Do you think Kerry's capable of that? Uhmmmm.... Jon Stewart has pretty much ripped him apart for that very New England dryness. That's funny, because he was raised in Colorado.

I was listening to Joe Biden yesterday. I was hearing a Republican! He's all over the map. I think he's confused himself!

Al Qaeda Presence in Kashmir complete haox: Police

Police in Indian administered Kashmir have refubbed the claims of Al Qaeda presence in Kashmir.

"The Al Qaeda in Kashmir is a complete hoax. " Inspector General Police, Kashmir Range, S M Sahi told Kashmir Newz Tuesday.

"Basically the militant organisations don't want to take responsibilities for w