Well, David, bush has admitted that global warming may be real...but I think he still believes that human activity has nothing to do with it.

I guess it's a start.

But pigs can so talk! Just ask Porky. And elephants can fly! Just ask Dumbo. For everything else just ask Joe Pags. Pugs?

David Corn, how do you stand such inanity and instanity? Weeehew...

Mr. David Corn,

Excellent post. Some of these guys are just nuts! I would never be able to keep my cool. I cannot even watch that kind of stuff these days.

I liked the direct tone in your post "Democrats, I'm talking about you" - it was like a poke in the chest. Maybe we need more of that, maybe we need to get mad as hell.

I am way past "had enough"!

Thanks for all of your work

Kirk

Plame sues White House figures over CIA leak

Former CIA officer and husband file lawsuit against Cheney, Libby, Rove

WASHINGTON - The CIA officer whose identity was leaked to reporters sued Vice President Dick Cheney, his former top aide and presidential adviser Karl Rove on Thursday, accusing them and other White House officials of conspiring to destroy her career.

In a lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court, Valerie Plame and her husband, Joseph Wilson, a former U.S. ambassador, accused Cheney, Rove and I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby of revealing Plame’s CIA identity in seeking revenge against Wilson for criticizing the Bush administration’s motives in Iraq.

Several news organizations wrote about Plame after syndicated columnist Robert Novak named her in a column on July 14, 2003. Novak’s column appeared eight days after Wilson alleged in an opinion piece in The New York Times that the administration had twisted prewar intelligence on Iraq to justify going to war.

More HERE

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More national security issues. I think too many took the SCOTUS too seriously. Busheney did not and will not. What other court will have ANY effect? None as far as I can tell.

They are above the law. That is what happens when you have a POTUS "asserting that he has the power to set aside any statute passed by Congress when it conflicts with his interpretation of the Constitution."

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A repost but I am thinking Bush has made the admission to the charges. I wonder if they will settle out of court?

capt

Zogby on BBc "Pathologies at work in the Middle east" and the U.s. could help settle things, by demanding that Israel respond with "proportionate responses".

Well that is a lot to ask from the U.s.

Is it true we won't have FEMA to kick around anymore?

Amidst war and global terror, let's take a break and read this wonderful tribute by George Will to his mother. Some of us will surely share his experience or be afflicted ourselves (by dementia).

A Mother's Love, Clarified
By George Will
July 13, 2006

NEWPORT BEACH, Calif. -- The long dying of Louise Will ended here recently. It was time. At 98, her body was exhausted by disease and strokes. Dementia, that stealthy thief of identity, had bleached her vibrant self almost to indistinctness, like a photograph long exposed to sunlight.

It is said that God gave us memory so we could have roses in winter. Dementia is an ever-deepening advance of wintery whiteness, a protracted paring away of personality. It inflicts on victims the terror of attenuated personhood, challenging philosophic and theological attempts to make death a clean, intelligible and bearable demarcation.

Is death the soul taking flight after the body has failed? That sequence -- the physical extinguished, the spiritual not -- serves our notion of human dignity. However, mental disintegration mocks that comforting schema by taking the spirit first.

In the very elderly the mind can come and go, a wanderer in time, and a disintegrating personality can acquire angers and jagged edges that are, perhaps, protests against a growing lightness of being. No one has come back from deep in that foreign country to report on life there. However, it must be unbearably frightening to feel one's self become light as a feather, with inner gales rising.

Dementia slowly loosens the sufferer's grip on those unique tokens of humanity, words. An early sign is a forgetfulness that results in repetitiveness, and fixation on the distant past.

For a while, one of Louise's insistently recurring memories was of spring 1918, a war year, and eastbound troop trains passing through Greenville, Pa. When the trains stopped, residents offered candy and magazines to the soldiers -- but not to black units. That infuriated Louise's father, whose fury was a fine memory for Louise to have among those of a father who died at age 44.

To the end, even when virtually without speech, Louise could recognize her children, could enjoy music and being read to from love letters written 75 years ago by Fred, her future husband. She could even laugh, in spite of the tormenting chasm between her remaining cognition and the prison of her vanished ability to articulate.

In 1951, in Champaign, Ill., for her 10-year-old son, she made a mother's sacrifice: She became a White Sox fan so she could converse with the argumentative Cubs fan who each evening dried the dishes as she washed. Even after much of her stock of memories had been depleted, she dimly knew that the name Nellie Fox (a second baseman) once meant something playful.

The aging that conquered Louise was, like war, a mighty scourge, and, like war, elicited nobility from those near its vortex. The nearest was Fred Will, who died eight years ago, at the end of his ninth decade.

A few years before his death, Fred, a reticent romantic, whose reticence may have been an effect of his tinge of melancholy, shared with his children some poetry he had written for Louise, including this from 1933:

The warm sun
Beams through the clear air
Upon glistening leaves.

And the birds
Sweep in long arcs
Over the green grass.

They seem to say,
``This might last forever!''
But it doesn't.

But it lasted more than six decades, which is forever, as foreverness is allotted to us.

A retired professor of philosophy, Fred probably knew what Montaigne, quoting Cicero, meant when he said that to study philosophy is to prepare to die. Fred was, strictly speaking, philosophic about his wife's affliction. A common connotation of ``philosophic'' is placid acceptance of what can be comprehended but not altered. However, Fred's philosophic response to the theft of his wife by aging was much richer than mere stoicism grounded in fatalism. It was a heroic act of will, arising from clearsightedness about the long trajectory of Louise's life.

He understood this stern paradox: Families seared by a loved one's dementia face the challenge of forgetting. They must choose to achieve what dementia inflicts on its victims -- short-term memory loss. They must restore to the foreground of remembrance the older memories of vivacity and wit.

``All that we can know about those we have loved and lost,'' Thornton Wilder wrote, ``is that they would wish us to remember them with a more intensified realization of their reality. What is essential does not die but clarifies. The highest tribute to the dead is not grief but gratitude.'' Louise, released from the toils of old age and modern medicine, is restored to clarity.

Kathleen,

Following the Powell Doctrine of overwhelming force, the Bu$hco regime does not believe in proportional response.

It is all too sad, and sadly, all too predictable.

I am reminded that it has been the likes of the Abramoffs and the Right wing Christian Coalition types that have enabled and funded the settlement expansion into the occupied territories for years, fueling and exasperating the situation.

Israel Says Hundreds of Targets Hit in Lebanon
MSNBC News Services
Thursday 13 July 2006

The divide in this country is so wide that it can never be repaired. Only a conversion of heart can bring about some hope for the future. Yet, I ask how can there be 6.5 billion conversions of the heart to bring about a wonderful planet? Our love for money, nuclear weapons, and the words of Bush will be our imminent destruction and damnation.

Mr. Corn,
I suggest that you bring a spitguard next time you go to Faux.

In the meantime...I've been battling a downloader virus and it's brand spanking new. Get your updates and run your scans everyone or you too can pay $70 to have your computer cleaned by a remote technition. My computer is bug free anyway and I'm not wasting my time anymore. I couldn't have tamed the beast this time anyway. Now I'm going to think about all the things I will do to the virus creater if I ever catch the person. Hajji, do you have any spare viruses running around your hospital? Can you put them in a jar?

Robert Schwartz mentions the Powell Doctrine of Overwhelming Force. This doctrine signifies that Powell is also a mass murderer and a war criminal. The humiliation of Powell by the Bush forces was probably appropriate for a mass murderer and a war criminal.

Everytime I hear the repugnants call Murtha, a traitor, I have to puke. It is a puke like you have never seen in your entire lifetime.

#171
Micki,
From previous thread.

Like I've said before, this is the one mistake Cheney can't chase away. It got top priority in the 'lessons learned' department and as we've seen on Think Progress the person in charge is being paid a lot.

I hope Harry chuckled but somehow I think he avoids the subject in general. The topic probably elicits a growl and a few words spoken quietly under his breath.

No. I end up being barked at by a know-nothing who claims there's no such thing as global warming. I kid you not.

Mr Corn

Now David, name calling is forbidden here!

Part of my upchucking started before I could reach the bathroom. I made a mess of my computer. What a mess!

Joe Wilson Responds to Bob "GOP Partisan The Traitor" Novak

We have a received a response from Ambassador Joe Wilson to the latest partisan lies, deceptions and distortions from Bob "Who Cares If I Betray America, I am Republican First" Novak.

Here is the statement from Ambassador Wilson:

"Robert Novak, some other commentators and the Administration continue to try to completely distort the role that Valerie Wilson played with respect to Ambassador Wilson's trip to Niger. The facts are beyond dispute. The Office of the Vice President requested that the CIA investigate reports of alleged uranium purchases by Iraq from Niger. The CIA setup a meeting to respond to the Vice President's inquiry. Another CIA official, not Valerie Wilson, suggested to Valerie Wilson's supervisor that the Ambassador attend that meeting. That other CIA official made the recommendation because that official was familiar with the Ambassador's vast experience in Niger and knew of a previous trip to Africa concerning uranium matters that had been undertaken by the Ambassador on behalf of the CIA in 1999. Valerie Wilson's supervisor subsequently asked her to relay a request from him to the Ambassador that he would like the Ambassador to attend the meeting at the CIA. Valerie Wilson did not participate in the meeting.

As the CIA itself has officially confirmed, Valerie Wilson did not send Ambassador Wilson to Niger and she neither suggested him nor recommended him for the trip. Furthermore, the Ambassador agreed to travel to Niger pro bono with only his travel expenses being paid."

Ambassador Joe Wilson on July 13, 2006

More HERE

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I might have garbled the paragraphing but it is mangled at the linked piece, I just cut out the "CR"'s.

capt

Please read this informative article

Robert Novak is a traitor. He is another repugnant that makes me puke!!!

Mr. Corn,
The republican party has become militarized and indoctrinated to the same extent as the North Korean people. Did you expect one of the privates (Joe Pags) to do anything but follow orders?

Val the Gal and Lying Joe have done it Know!

Plame (Levin's Take on the lawsuit)

The National Review ^ | July 13, 2006 | Mark R. Levin

So, Valerie Plame is suing the vice president and Lewis Libby. Yes, it will be a distraction to the vice president, but it will also be a great opportunity for Cheney and Libby's lawyers to pursue aggressively discovery. Plame, and her detestable husband Joe Wilson, may well have blundered. To the extent possible, through depositions and document production, Cheney and Lewis's lawyers should get to the bottom of the real scandal, e.g., who exactly is Valerie Plame, what was her role in sending her husband to Niger, who were all of her contacts, what media sources did she speak to, what politicians did she speak to, and on and on. And the same with her husband.

The world is at war and these fools bring this lawsuit. Another 15 minutes of shame.

The world is at war and David is debating global warming? Ya, that's going to save us!

Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel

THE STATE OF ISRAEL will be open for Jewish immigration and for the Ingathering of the Exiles; it will foster the development of the country for the benefit of all its inhabitants; it will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel; it will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex; it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture; it will safeguard the Holy Places of all religions; and it will be faithful to the principles of the Charter of the United Nations.

The beginning of the end for Israel - mad dog style.

Before you bedrock Zionists accuse me of anti-semitism, this is not MY prediction but that of Martin van Creveld, professor of military history at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem as quoted in an article by David Hirst and published in the Observer on Sunday September 21, 2003:
'We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother." I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.'
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Now you know the reality. Maybe Global Cooling should be more of a concern. Nuclear winter anyone?

Mr. David Corn,

Sounds like a very rough day. Be careful not to let your blood pressure go up when you're up against these morons. There's seems to be so many of them out there, a few right here on this blog.

Good for you for standing your ground on global warming. I am convinced it's the single most important issue of our time. Our time will not be much longer if we perpetuate the careless nonsense. The purposeful naivete is shameless.

Bravo for getting on the Democrats' asses. My, do they need a swift kick in the pants! It's is so darn apalling. How many of them, do you think, have actually seen their colleague's movie An Inconvenient Truth? I would hazard a guess of just a handful. Shameless.

Truthdig's managing editor summoned readers to respond to a query on the subject of the movie and it's title. He asked if we thought that the status of the phrase "an inconveinient truth" had gone past the tipping point. In other words, has it arrived as a metaphor in our vernacular? Not many responded. Shameless.

To round out your rough day, we have full-on war in the Middle East. The U.S. has already blamed Iran and Syria. So apparently Bushco will kill two birds with one stone along with their faithful ally Israel. "Terrorist" attacks will abound globally as the only possible resistance against the military giants. The perpetrators knew just what to do to instigate this incendiary round of violence. (Israel started this by holding 10,000 Arab political prisoners and refusing to talk with the elected leaders of the Palestinians, Hamas. The U.S., by proxy.) The nation's fears will be all stoked up as Rove planned for the midterm elections. Shameless.

The Israelis have just bombed the road from Beirut to Damascus. Haifa was spewed with about seven rockets as a retaliation. Olmert says, "the attack on Haifa is a major, major escalation". Oh really? And what did you do Israel, play fiddlesticks? Shameless.

I have to go now. The phone line has to remain open. Just know that the war has approached around-the-clock status. This, my friend and my fellow bloggers is not good. It's shameless.

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The Center's investigation revealed mounting evidence that military recruiters and commanders, under intense pressure to meet manpower goals with the country at war in Iraq, relaxed standards designed to prohibit racist extremists from serving in the armed forces.

In a letter delivered to Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld last Friday, the Center outlined its findings and called on the military to adopt a zero-tolerance policy on white supremacy in the military.

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As the world turns...more war, more havoc, more bush...

Jochen Hippler, a German, says: "In the general population here, there is still a deep mistrust of Bush, mostly in regard to his military policies, but also with regard to environmental policies like Kyoto."

Hippler is a senior research fellow at the Institute for Development and Peace at the University of Duisburg-Essen, Germany.

From #16

It is also worth noting that, as the Los Angeles Times clarifies, Novak has curiously not yet revealed the so-called "primary" source for his outing of a CIA operative specializing in the tracking of the illicit sales and transactions involving WMDs.

In putting the interests of his loyalty to the Bush Administration above the interests and national security of the nation, Novak will not name his "primary" source, even though our ability to counter WMDs was compromised for an act of thuggish vengeance and exercise of cynical intimidation.

"But in clearing the air this week," notes the LA Times, "Novak chose not to clear up the identity of his primary source, saying that he did not think it appropriate to do so because that person had declined to come forward voluntarily."

For ongoing updates on the PlameGate investigation, please read http://www.buzzflash.com.

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I hope they "bring it on" go deep into the slime machine and expose ANY criminal and traitor. Yes even the little-big-man.

If somebody broke the law they sould be held to account, just like Fitzgerald held Rove and Novak . . well maybe the next round of spin and lies will exopse more lies and encourage more stonewalling and spin.

This will be a fun ride.

capt

#24,

SPLC welcomes your feedback and you can Reach SPLC online HERE

capt

Dr. B -- Senate approves proposal to revamp, rename FEMA

STORY HERE

Push to give agency independent status fails

Thursday, July 13, 2006
By Bruce Alpert

WASHINGTON -- Legislation that would replace the Federal Emergency Management Agency with a new entity that would remain part of the Department of Homeland Security but report directly to the president during major disasters is nearing final Senate approval.
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Dr B, Pretty reassuring, huh? bush will be in charge of MORE disasters!

Pande thinks LBH has a learning disability and cannot learn to link. I don't think LBH is stupid, I think he's ignorant.

Nothing else to see here, go back to your current blog topics.

ok so two Israeli soldiers are kidnapped, Israel bombs a hundred sites in Lebanon...and the US doesn't see that as overreacting?!?

oh yeah...that's right...it's just the example the US set

"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests."-- Patrick Henry

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Thanks ICH Newsletter!

capt

Iran's rattling sabers, North Koreas testing missles, Iraq is a mess and we are re-defeating the Taliban in Afgan...and the Republicans wanna discuss gay f'n marriage

it'd be funny if it wasn't so sad

It is the arrogance of superior firepower. They strike, you strike back twice as hard. They bomb, you bomb back twice as hard. It the strategy of escalating detterence.

The problem is both sides believe they are fighting for their lives, and so neither will back down.

How did this start? Two ot three israeli soldiers were kidnapped?

The escalation of the israeli palenstinean combat brings real concern about the spread of violence. The US Iraq War continues at 9 Billion a day with ethnic bloodbaths occuring daily. Where to from here?

Beirut airport bombed, toll rises

Israel blockaded Lebanese ports and struck Beirut airport and two military airbases today, expanding reprisals that have killed 53 civilians in Lebanon since Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers a day earlier.

Hezbollah fighters rained more than 80 rockets on northern Israel in their heaviest bombardment in a decade, hitting Israel's third largest city, Haifa, the Israeli army said.

There were no immediate reports of casualites in Haifa, a major port of 250,000 people. One woman was killed and 43 people wounded in the other rocket attacks, Israeli medics said.

The violence was the fiercest since 1996 when Israeli troops still occupied part of south Lebanon. It coincided with a major Israeli offensive into the Gaza Strip to try to retrieve a captured soldier and halt Palestinian rocket fire.

More HERE

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A perspective from down-under. From the picture they provide it looks like Baghdad airport is in far better shape.

A spark in that tinder-box is:

"It is all too sad, and sadly, all too predictable." (from RS at #8)

Proves again, peace is the hard job, violence is such a cop-out.

How many more countries have to be blowing each other up before it qualifies as a world war? The civil war in Iraq will feel starved for their share of the "info-news" and will be making more and bigger noise.

I still hope cooler heads will prevail but have the feeling something was in the queue as the Iran invasion never really caught on.

This is going to keep happening. We have to defeat the warmongers and they have a huge advantage (trillion $).

capt

the FOX cheerleaders are screaming for WWIII right now...then again the same screed is available on MSNBC, CNN and CBS...media might as well all dress in skirts and W tank tops w/ red pom poms

"it'd be funny if it wasn't so sad"

Applies again, no?

capt

More Troops May Be Needed in Baghdad, U.S. General Says

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Gen. George W. Casey Jr., the senior American commander in Iraq, said Wednesday that "terrorists and death squads" were responsible for the surge in sectarian killings here in recent weeks, and that there might be a need to move more American forces into the capital to prevent the deadly cycle from worsening.

His remarks came on a day when at least 30 people were killed and 37 wounded in and around Baghdad, including 20 people who were kidnapped from a bus station 60 miles north of the city and killed, Iraqi officials said. A local police official offered a slightly different account of that episode.

Hours before General Casey spoke, Iraq’≥ prime minister, Nuri Kamal al-Maliki, told Iraqi lawmakers that his program of national reconciliation was the country’≥ "last chance" to avoid slipping into chaos.

More HERE

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Again too predictable. Many here have posted that when they say a draw-down of our troops is possible it is always just before an increase.

I hate the sound of that. "We just need a few more troops and we will win" when victory is ill or undefined. The rhetoric of "we are turning a corner" is not working. Not this time (I hope).

capt

Bush Faces Major Choice Amid Escalation

"This is potentially very dangerous," Bassel Saloukh, a political scientist at the Lebanese American University in Beirut, told IPS in a telephone interview. "If the Americans take this to legitimate a strike against Iran or Syria, then I think it will escalate with devastating consequences."

More HERE

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And there is the angle. It is Syria and Iran so the attack is on. Bush or Olmert might demand Syria and Iran stop the violence. If they are not behind the attacks they will not be able to stop the attacks.

This is not about one or three soldiers. This has been planned for some time (just as a contingency).

capt

What Are They Fighting For

Whatever may be the fate of the captive soldier Gilad Shalit, the Israeli army’≥ war in Gaza is not about him. As senior security analyst Alex Fishman widely reported, the army was preparing for an attack months earlier and was constantly pushing for it, with the goal of destroying the Hamas infrastructure and its government. The army initiated an escalation on 8 June when it assassinated Abu Samhadana, a senior appointee of the Hamas government, and intensified its shelling of civilians in the Gaza Strip. Governmental authorization for action on a larger scale was already given by 12 June, but it was postponed in the wake of the global reverberation caused by the killing of civilians in the air force bombing the next day. The abduction of the soldier released the safety-catch, and the operation began on 28 June with the destruction of infrastructure in Gaza and the mass detention of the Hamas leadership in the West Bank, which was also planned weeks in advance. (1)

In Israeli discourse, Israel ended the occupation in Gaza when it evacuated its settlers from the Strip, and the Palestinians’†behavior therefore constitutes ingratitude. But there is nothing further from reality than this description. In fact, as was already stipulated in the Disengagement Plan, Gaza remained under complete Israeli military control, operating from outside. Israel prevented any possibility of economic independence for the Strip and from the very beginning, Israel did not implement a single one of the clauses of the agreement on border-crossings of November 2005. Israel simply substituted the expensive occupation of Gaza with a cheap occupation, one which in Israel’≥ view exempts it from the occupier’≥ responsibility to maintain the Strip, and from concern for the welfare and the lives of its million and a half residents, as determined in the fourth Geneva convention.

Israel does not need this piece of land, one of the most densely populated in the world, and lacking any natural resources. The problem is that one cannot let Gaza free, if one wants to keep the West Bank. A third of the occupied Palestinians live in the Gaza strip. If they are given freedom, they would become the center of Palestinian struggle for liberation, with free access to the Western and Arab world. To control the West Bank, Israel needs full control Gaza. The new form of control Israel has developed is turning the whole of the Strip into a prison camp completely sealed from the world.

More HERE

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This war stuff has to stop. Somehow, we cannot let our so-called leaders push the idea that war is peace, it is not.

capt

Don't back down Israel. Rock their world!

Capt #16 Thank you for that great post. I believe Joe Wilson in every way.

I realize posting this might seem kind of flip at this point -- but this type of "leadership" from bush is one reason the world is on the verge of chaos:

"..."I think your vice president's expression there is like his bad shot on his hunting trip,'' Putin said during an interview on NBC's Today Show this week, making an allusion to Cheney's accidental wounding of a hunting companion.

"Did I think it was a clever response?" Bush said of Putin's remark. "It was pretty clever actually, quite humorous – not to dis my friend, the vice president."

Bush also voiced what the White House has been saying about the president's plans for confronting Putin anew on the question of democracy – that any criticism aired in St. Petersburg will be communicated privately to Putin.

"My own view of dealing with President Putin… is that nobody likes to be lectured a lot," Bush said. "What you don't do is scold a person publicly a lot."
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The village idiot on the world stage!

Don't back down Israel. Rock their world!

--yeah, great idea Rush, thanks

Funny this started with the kidnapping of two Israeli soldiers. Well who did that and why? If all they had to do to avoid all this was to give them back, why didn't they? Everybody here wants to blame Israel, but it started with the aforementioned. Did Israel kidnap their own soldiers? I think not! But I am sure it is on the minds of more than one of you conspiracy kornkooks on this site

so do you agree that two kidnappings equal a full on war launch against a soveriegn nation and ally?

Israel made a mistake in overreacting...overlooking that is at our own peril as we are arming these nations we are responsible for what they do with the power we give them

nein? repubkookemmerson

Rush is on vacation this week so he hasn't commented on this. Jumping the proverbial gun? I bet you have never listened to 10 minutes of Rush yet you consider him a warmonger. He is not, nor am I. If someone strikes at you, you better strike back, or expect more of the same. Al Queda struck at our embassies, our soldiers etc. throughout the 90's yet we did nothing. Fighting back is better than being a passive wimp, aka Bill Clinton and company. Israel has a right to defend same as Lebannon et al.

Lebanon is an ally...if Israel has gripes they should attack Iran

Rush not a warmonger?

I listen to the enemy propaghanda and yes that is how I view him and you...but I listen

just to figure out what goes through your minds when the War in Iraq is failing, the War in Afgahn is restarting, North Korea is launching missles, Iran is stirring the beehive and you GOP nutjobs wanna talk gay f'n marriage

get a clue

And you would have no problem with that? I bet you would. The Lebanese people may be an ally but not the government. If Israel struck Iran, you would be the first to complain. Nein?

I remember when slick Willy was in office...Main street was living well and the world was at relative peace

those were the days

not at all
I'd be happy they picked on someone their own size

what message does this send to our ally Lebanon when we veto a resolution to bring Israel back to bay...we armed Israel and therefore are responsible when they use bully tactics on weaker nations...there is a reason Iran and Seria have not been targeted

its the same reason we hit Iraq...easier target

Please keep my identity a secret. Double super Secret. I could call in and have my voice disguised or and my face blocked our. Please call me or send me an email if you plan to use this. Thanks. I am a Rove-ing reporter leaking a fictional copy of the Grand Jury testimony of Robert Novak. For the complete text visit:

Robert Novak Says Who Leaked First

Novak: Well Fitzgerald, You know Carl Rove, the White House Chief of Staff (of the United States) [COSTUS], the media gave me a job as Journalist for as long as I want.
Fitzgerald: Look Novak, if you're a journalist, you must know all the players.
Novak: I certainly do.
Fitzgerald: Well you know I've never met the guys. You are under oath so you'll have to tell me their names, and then I'll know who's involved in the leaking of a CIA officer’≥ name.
Novak: Oh, I'll tell you their names, but you know it seems to me they give the players now-a-days very peculiar names.
Fitzgerald: You mean funny names?
Novak: Strange names, pet names...like Deep Throat...
Fitzgerald: His brother Daffy.
Novak: Daffy Throat...
Fitzgerald: And their French cousin.
Novak: French?
Fitzgerald: Goof?.
Novak: Goof? Throat. Well, let's see, we have on the list, Who leaked the name of a CIA officer first, What leaked it second, I Don't Know leaked it third...
Fitzgerald: That's what I want to find out.
Novak: I say Who leaked first, What leaked second, I Don't Know leaked third.
Fitzgerald: Are you a government employee?
Novak: Yes.
Fitzgerald: You gonna be a political consultant too?
Novak: Yes.
Fitzgerald: And you don't know the fellows' names?
Novak: Well I should.
Fitzgerald: Well then who leaked first?
Novak: Yes.
Fitzgerald: I mean the fellow's name.
Novak: Who.
Fitzgerald: The guy who leaked first.
Novak: Who.
Fitzgerald: The first leaker.
Novak: Who.
....
Fitzgerald: Same as you! Same as YOU! I direct the questions to who. Whoever it is drops the ball and the guy runs to second. Who picks up the questions and throw them to What. What points his finger at I Don't Know. I Don't Know blames it on Tomorrow, Triple play. Another guy gets up and pleads the fifth for Because. Why? I don't know! He's on third and I don't give a darn!
Novak: What?
Fitzgerald: I said I don't give a darn!
Novak: Oh, that's our intern.
Who's on First by Novak and Fitzgerald
And at the first game, Judith Miller will throw in the first pitch. Ambassador and Mrs. Wilson will sing the National Anthem. Matt Cooper will be selling beer in the bleachers. Novak will be scalping tickets outside the main gate and Rove will get 20% of the door.
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Please keep up the good work. We need you now more than ever.

Middle-aged, Middle-of-the-road, Mid-Westerner
MnMnM50@hotmail.com

Main street was being raped by dot.coms and Enron et al. They finally got caught with their pants down much like Slick Willy. If that is your idea of a great age, then there is no reason to respond to you. Ignorance is bliss and your idea of bliss is ignorant.

What America needs to do is get back to America

riddle me this republicant's

what is the idea behind exhausting our troops and finances on the first two legs of our long war on terror

makes you remember Katrina and waiting a week for troops to get flown in

feel safer now

ok so you argue that now is a better time than under clinton...its after 9 son, shouldn't you be in bed by now?

Enron?

saw Bush at Kenny Boy's funeral...was Clinton there?

didn't see em

Nice job but I am not a GOP'er. I am an independent and that scares the crap out of Dem's. They can't figure out how to get my vote and neither can the Repubs. At least I am not tied to a party, as you seem to be.

please I'm no fan of the current Dems save a few

and independents are a myth told by closet conservatives

who'd you vote for Nader? LOL

I just love America and what we can do here enough tp stand up to the conservative machine and say enough is enough

Dems ain't great but ANYTHING would be better than the Bush regime...in eight short years he may single handedly cripple our nation through stupidity compounded by illogical stubborness

Enron earned more money when Clinton was President than when Bush was President. They were ripping people off from the beginning. I always feel safe, I am an American. We defend ourselves. Are you French?

But guess what? It wasn’¥ Bob Novak who revealed that Valerie Plame may have been working undercover (with an alleged tie to the alleged Brewster Jennings in Boston, which now hosts an Internet game similar to “óhere in the World is Carmen SanDiego”ø)

It was left-wing columnist David Corn, writing in The Nation, just two days after Novak’≥ first column.

It turns out that Corn is a close friend of the Wilson/Plame couple, and knew all about their various foreign outings. Unlike Robert Novak, he didnմ need to consult җhoճ Who in AmericaӠto learn Valerie Plameճ name.

history lesson

without the French we'd all have been killed before America was even a full country-and I might add that history proves their position on Iraq was right all along

how soon we forget and eat freedom fries

Nader? Offer a serious choice and I may consider it. I voted for Bush twice, but would have voted for Lieberman in '04 had he been the nominee. Gore and Kerry-Heinz were jokes and still are.

but that's right W says we hate the french now...probably hate lebanon next...and btw I'm part Native American, this is MY land

so you are an independent in what sense then?

get the myth bit now?

I vote Republican
I beleieve everything they say

that's why I am independent

ever wonder what the world would be like right now if Bush listened to the UN inspectors?

we would have a full and ready army
billions more dollars

and not bare assed as the world falls apart

thats the joke

I am a conservative who is independent but there are many republicans out there that I would never vote for. There are some in the Democrat party who are more consevative than some members of the Republican party. Why do you think Joe Lieberman is being punished by his own party? He agrees with Bush on 1 thing but disagrees on 99 others but he suffers because of his view on the war in Iraq. Hillary has the same view but I don't see her getting the BOAKYAGB treatment.

what?

Hillary is getting hammered and rightfully so, she is a DINO just like old Joe who doesn't believe in primary democracy

the WAR is all that matters now...Bush started it, they supported it, the WAR is failing and now the accountabilty part comes up

that is not punishment its voting

9-11 should have created a firm interest in national defense and civil preparation...not a cowboy war with no plan, no end and no real target...it's the war on drugs (while on drugs)

and if Joe was such a great DEM he'd accept the will of his constituents and not go all Zell Miller

Joe Lieberman will guest speak at the RNC

any bet takers?

Has Hillary had to register as an independent in NY because of her views? I think not. Hillary is untouchable, and after seeing her and hearing her, I agree. She must go to the same beautician that Cindy Sheehan goes to.

Captain has to be out there biting his tongue. I know he wants to respond but he no longer posts to trolls. Don't bite too hard captain.

not worries...I love troll hunting

Hillary is terrible, be as bad but NOT worse than W

what we have now is a Republican majority willing to debate gay marriage, flag burning and the Paris Hilton tax while the world goes to war

priorities people, get em

and do you agree that jumping parties is a reasonable response to losing a primary?

maybe old Joe should take a lesson and learn and come back when he has IMO

well if you are out there capt, hello to you, its been a year almost but i'm back and ready to bust trolls

conservatives need to pass back the torch
let's look at this as a business
when the business is failing to we

A. hire someone new

B. stick with bad mgmt for fear of what the new guy might do

I know it dumbs it down a bit but that is the GOP party line for 06 and 08

But you would vote for Hillary in '08 if she were the nominee wouldn't you? Even after you
admit that she is terrible.

Who you gonna call? TROLLBUSTERS!

I think all of the media personalities who are cheerleading for war in the middle east should suit up and join the army. Pronto. WWI and WWII was devastating to the people who had to live through them. Having whole regions at war involves the entire world. It puts progress in a hold pattern. It drains the economies of the world. It tires out nations. It destroys lives.

My husband's grandmother told of her brother being damaged by mustard gas in WWI. He died young.

My mother's and father's generation watched sons depart. Some came home. Others didn't. All were damaged by the war.

War is hell. It is not glorious.

Woody Guthrie was a Merchant Marine in WWII. Just food, and music, for thought.

I tried to explain the Israel thing to Bob tonight, and by the time I was thru I confused myself. In the end I told him most of the grief in the world is because ISRAEL WON'T LET THE PALESTINIANS HAVE A SLICE OF LAND! "Good grief, WHY DON'T YOU JUST GIVE IT TO THEM ALREADY!?!" {ò,ó}

The U.N. gave the land to Israel. Why don't you ask the other countries in the area, Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, to give up theirs? Israel pulled of the Gaza strip and where did that get them? Nothing! You Liberal Jew haters are really showing your true colors.

"Remember when [t]he neocons were saying that the invasion of Iraq would be good for Israel and the region? That hasn't quite worked out. And it's certainly possible that the invasion of Iraq has exacerbated problems in the Middle East. Certainly, it has made it harder for Bush to pressure Iran or Syria (which is necessary in order to pressure Hezbollah and Hamas), for if Bush leans too heavily on Iran or Syria they can make things even worse in Iraq. So Bush has tied his own hands and has hampered Washington's ability to be a broker in the region. And at a cost of half a trillion dollars [and counting]." (emphasis mine)

If not the the heart of this post, this passage may be a most concise explanation of the legacy left by the application of the Bush Doctrine. The grand scheme that was to insure the security and power of America has achieved the exact opposite result. And at what ultimate cost?

#72
and if Joe was such a great DEM he'd accept the will of his constituents and not go all Zell Miller

Posted by: ed at July 13, 2006 09:42 PM
===============================================

Mr. ed, the facts are, Sen. Liberman is:

1st - An American patriot cognizant of the consequences of cut-and-run from Iraq;
2nd - A popular 3-term Senator for the state of Connecticut (NOT just CT Dem constituents);
3rd - A CT Democrat

Possibility exists that a committed small minority within the 3rd/last group I cited, backed and egged on by national loonies like the Kos and most Cornuts here, will vote heavily in the primary and overwhelm the majority wish of the entire state!

Sen. Liberman's dilemma is an accurate mini-version of the problems of the overall primary system. I applaud Sen. Liberman for taking the initiative to ensure that the whole state will have a say and NOT just a highly motivated subgroup of registered CT Democrats!

So far, the CT senatorial race IS the show of the year and I'm Happy to grace the Corn blog with my thoughts!

Jimmy Carter would roll over in his grave if he thought we were about to end the terrorist regime in Iran. After all, he created them. Jimmy's still alive? Put a stake through his heart, take out Iran. He created them, we can destroy them. Peanuts anyone? What a joke he was and still is!

thanks Joe...explain what cut and run means after this many years in Iraq

are you downgrading our "accomplishments" over all these many years
or admitting occupation unending

hmmm?

LOL gotta go back to Carter?

I'm sure you can admit that since then its pretty much been Republican dominance in govt so really...how many years ya'll cats need before we see results?

oh and most Jews are Liberal FYI

with the War so far a failed mission with no end goal to measure how do you disagree with a change in govt mngmt...is it fear of results or do you place your conservative ideals above your nations freedom ?

btw any of you trolls got anything I didn't hear on talk radio and Fox already...any free thinking trolls out there or just mimics and dittoheads

the phrase cut an run insults our troops

which means nothing to conservatives as they don't have to serve just cheer

what MORE do you neocons want out of soldiers?

they kill and break things-thats the job and W declared that mission accomplished

but with no WMD, no 911 connection and no dictator now we are stuck in Iraq possibly forever until we run out of money, guns and men

then the next 911 will happen and we will wait a few weeks for the last of our troops to get back as fireman and the police form the first line across our bare ass

yeah, I feel safer now

Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Bush 41 and Clinton sucked!

Reagan is the best since JFK & Eisenhower.Bush 43 will be judged after he leaves office.

I served, did you?

Bush 43 will be deemed by history the worst president ever...and its Reagan that gave us trickle down economics which still hasn't trickled and of course he hooked us up with all those missing nukes we fear that Iran might get...yeah, he was great

still gotta say I lived thru the Clinton years and never saw better times...I'll overlook a BJ for world peace and a strong middle class

lemme guess you are not in Iraq b/c ?

in retro Bush the elder was at least smart enough not to break the vase at the Pottery Barn

now if anyone came here...on our soil...invading

I'd be right out there with everyone else

I just fail to see how globe trotting imperialism helps OUR security and am in no way interested in dying for oil

WW2 was a neccesity...really have not been many necessities since

I'm 44 years old. Your excuse? And I take it by not answering, you didn't serve. You hypocrite!

David says:

"Remember when he neocons were saying that the invasion of Iraq would be good for Israel and the region? That hasn't quite worked out."

A Cornut chimes in: "...this passage may be a most concise explanation of the legacy left by the application of the Bush Doctrine"

Hard Fact: the Mid East has been on simmer or boil since before I was born (mid-50s'). Now, after a truly major geopolitical move to spread democracy via the current Iraq War of 2003-?, liberals have already closed the history book and declared a "legacy" of DEFEAT!?!?

I hope Israel Defends itself so vigorously that Hamas & Hezballah will be forced (including by fellow Arabs) to come to their senses. Remember, it is darkest before the dawn!

David:

I sure wish you can jump in and help w/some solutions instead of just telling the Dems to stand up and shout "the barn is on fire"!

I would too if it were not from some fat chick intern named Lewinski. Gotta give him credit though. He smoked the cigar after dipping it into the wench. I couldn't stomache that!

"""I'm 44 years old. Your excuse? And I take it by not answering, you didn't serve. You hypocrite! """

actually I think they might still take you

and as a soldier you must be OUTRAGED at the GOP bungling of this war and the resources allotted

and I did answer...faster than you playa

and how am I a hypocrite...I'm not pro-war, in fact i think someone should try something before they like it anyway

so emmerson, you liked war?

you sir are the hypocrite...your fellow man is out there suffering in the desert while the GOP you support debates god and gays...where is your integrity

You said conservatives don't serve and I did. I didn't accuse you of not serving but since you brought it up, I answered. I have my answer. And since you never served in the military, you have no right to comment on the military. At least that is the way mort of your fellow Cornnuts think. You have now joined their club.

I'd be happy too if I was as blind and ignorant of the facts as you haps

Iraq was in better shape before we got there...they may have had a dictator but they were ALIVE

if they wanted freedom so bad then they would have fought for it...you cannot install democracy it needs to be won by its people

nice straw man em...good stuff

so are you saying soldiers like you fought and died so I could NOT be FREE to comment on MY country?

so...why did you fight then?

take it up a notch man...the rush repeats old

I am a US citizen

My tax dollars pay the wages of both my govt and my millitary

Since when did they get you to believe you were the worker?

Corn chips are made from corn and corn is good

Bush likes corn chips, so he is good

please tell me you are not ALL that dumb

think for yourselves just for a minute and you may be frightened by whats going on in our society

Mr. ed:

Like emmerson, I'm also a Conservative and I also SERVED in the Navy). But unlike emmerson, I have been a Republican since voting for Reagan in 1980!

So, please tell us, did you or did you NOT serve?

happy can you read

I've covered this already

get back to defending blindly and putting your pathetic party before national security

sorry, I'm sorry

you are a Republican, I missed that

so...of course you can't read

Your point was conservatives do not serve, therefore the should not support our military during wartime. You, being a liberal, never served, yet I didn't accuse you of not having the right to question the war or military. That is about as hypocritical as it gets. One can question only because one served to give them that right. Yet you question the motive of the one who served. Are they not entitled to the same opinion?

you know who else used to rant and rave about the EVIL LEFT

the unabomber

tim mcveigh

these guys didn't vote blue

I'm saying 44 or not pony up

be a man

you support this then get over there and do it

Mr. Ed? Wilbur?

The Late Night Crew is back and they're on fahr. S.H.I.T., baybeee!

"You're asking yourself where's President Bush? I'll tell you where he is. He's in Europe preparing for the G8 Summit and he's very excited. He thinks it's a conference on vegetable juice"
--David Letterman

"President Bush had a phone conversation with the astronauts aboard the space shuttle. The odd thing is President Bush was the only one wearing a space helmet."
--Conan O'Brien

"President Bush left for the G8 Summit today in Russia. The White House says he's going to try and convince other world leaders to develop nuclear power. Apparently, it's working, because so far, Bush has convinced Iran and North Korea."
--Conan O'Brien

"President Bush went to Germany today. Did not go well. When he landed, he kept asking to see the Berlin Wall."
--Jay Leno

"Republican Congressman Pete Hoekstra has charged the Bush administration with keeping programs secret from Congress. Somehow no one from Congress reads the New York Times, I guess."
--Jay Leno

"Anybody here from Washington, D.C.? Anybody going to Washington, D.C.? Be careful. Crime is on the rise in Washington, D.C. It's bad down there. As a matter of fact, congressmen are afraid to walk around with their bribe money. ... It's so bad that today Lincoln was found duct taped to his chair."
--David Letterman

"President Bush announced that the federal deficit is actually $296 billion less than originally forecast. It's less, yeah. The president credits low unemployment, high job growth, and the fact that he did the math himself."
--Conan O'Brien

"Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was in Afghanistan today where he promised to defeat the Taliban. Didn't we do that already? He's also sworn we will soon capture Saddam Hussein."
--Jimmy Kimmel

"Japan says they're now considering whether attacking North Korea's missile sites would violate their Constitution. Imagine that. Government leaders worried about violating their Constitution. That's something you don't see anymore."
--Jay Leno

"President Bush said today we should be patient with North Korea and use diplomacy and not rush into any kind of military actions. You know what that means? No oil over there."
--Jay Leno

"President Bush told People magazine this week that he's working on a solution for global warming. He says it will be ready in less than six months. Yeah, it's called "winter."
--Jay Leno

"Any online gamblers here? Well, Congress is looking in shutting that down. There's going to be a massive congressional investigation of online gambling and they're going to shut it down. And when they get done with that, they're going to look into this North Korean thing."
--David Letterman

"Today is a historic day. On this day in 1804 Vice President Aaron Burr shot Alexander Hamilton. A vice president shooting a guy? I mean, luckily something like that couldn't happen today."
--David Letterman

"This just in from hell: Ken Lay swindled al-Zarqawi out of his pension."
--David Letterman

"Authorities in New York City have foiled a plot by terrorists to blow up the Holland Tunnel. There was one awkward moment when officials informed President Bush the Holland Tunnel was safe. Bush then thanked the Dutch authorities for all their help."
--Jay Leno

"We finally found some weapons of mass destruction. The bad news? They're in North Korea. Boy, that Saddam is sneaky."
--Jay Leno

"The CIA special unit that was searching for Osama bin Laden has been disbanded. So I guess, mission accomplished."
--David Letterman

"I want to wish a belated birthday to our president. George W. Bush celebrated the big 6-0 on Thursday. When you realize President Bush and Jessica Simpson were born in the same week, maybe there is something to this astrology stuff."
--Jimmy Kimmel

And a little World Cup Humor:
"The annual G8 summit of the wealthiest nations gets underway tomorrow. Officials say this year the hardest part will be keeping the leader of France from head butting the leader of Italy."
--Conan O'Brien

LOL that was almost as clever as your earlier straw men

how bout you grampa happy--you wanna hit Iraq?

answer me this--when is this war to be judged won? can a peace based on permenant occupation be considered free?

I never said you are evil. Just childish and misguided. Now go sit in the corner until milk and cookies time. And while you are there, thank a soldier for allowing you the freedom to be childish and misguided without being royally punished. Spare the rod, spoil the child. This is really getting boring, Ed!

and if we can never leave Afghanistan or Iraq then how do we

A. defend ourselves
B. anticipate a future threat

come on...think

George Bush is infallible...he's like the sun

Do not look at the flag draped coffins we are winning the war, do not listen as Iraq says beat it they want us there

The govt is just hanging out with polar bears, not saving them from global warming

Giving up our personal freedoms is genius, it will make Islamists wicked angry

blah bla blah

I think ed is edwina. Be a man? You must be a female. We still have troops in Germany and South Korea. Are they not free countries? Hitting the apple juice heavily this evening? Get mommy to burp you and put you in the crib.

Ed, you are GOOD! Succinct! You can say SOOO much in a couple sentences. I'm glad you're back.

I've seen it all now. Clone me? God you are an idiot.

Check please! David, I am out of here. Glad to help out.

well I will

you guys are evil, you are the enemy and you are everything that is wrong with this country

conservatives are willing to trade liberty for safety and deserve neither

conservatives put party politcs and mean spirited discrimination above what is good for the nation

conservatives give Halliburton NO bid contracts, lose billions and expect no repercussions

conservatives launched preemptive war and 3000 americans are dead because of it

but lemme guess after decades of being out of power (Clinton don't count as he was pretty conservative) the Democrats are to blame

take some ownership

I'm proud to be called a girl by the likes of you---sexist conservative type

Don't look now Mr. Ed but I think a mare has spotted you in the Cornfield. Have fun. Liberals are so much fun to watch and read, especially when they pair up. It is called stereo.

wish we could go back to when women stayed home barefoot and pregnant and the darkies knew their place...the good old days you conservatives harken back to weren't so good for a lot of folks

so soon we forget our history

this from the rush limbaugh echo chamber

Pande,

Been waiting for the sound of funnies.

Wouldn't be Thursday night without the S.H.I.T!

Sent ya some hat tips down on the last thread. Caroline thanked me and I pass it up to the Mac Daddy!

You brought a little sunshine to our corner of the planet on an otherwise dark day.

As always - Thanks!

capt

liberals...none of the power, all of the blame

hey emmerson, go get some rest, wake up early and eat a good breakfast and read up on the world before you come back tommorow

I expect a better challenge next time

I almost feel like a bully

Look at you at 127. Using a term I wouldn't even think of. Funny, it is you Liberals who are the racists. If you weren't such an idion I would invite you to a get-together with some of my friends. I am sure you would get a kick out of repeating your post to them. Then they would get a kick out of you. You racist idiot!

I blogged at Cornpost and got called a girl by a conservative and it was meant as an insult and all I got was this lousy T-shirt

Talking

Dear Cornposters:

When it comes to Israel and America , I have a novel idea. I prefer talking with people, communicating with people, and having a dialogue with people. I prefer these three novel ideas over murdering, torturing, and committing war crimes against the people.

Is it too much to ask of human beings in Israel, America, and all the countries on our planet? Why is our inhumanity toward man preferred over love, mercy, justice, and peace? When we disagree with the results and votes of elected officials, are we going to murder the people because we disagree with their votes in electing officials whom we do not want in office?

May God help us!!!

Sincerely,

Gerald

again this from the guy who called me a girl LOL

the party of abraham has lost its way

yeah I'm a wicked racist...you'll see me at the next hate mexicans rally...oh wait, thats conservatives oops

nope...I'm a Lib we love everyone but treasonous neocons

gotta say though its kind of sad thats the post you want to qoute after dodging all of the really good questions

No, you were called a racist idiot. Do you still want a T-shirt? I am sure you would insist that your government provide you one. I would buy one for you but T-shirts don't really look good on crap.

do you think the RED BLUE divide that your conseravtives champion makes us safer?

can you say anything W has done that is working?

I got called crap by a sexist and its still not midnight...doing good so far

and what praytell would a conservative know about racism other than what is in your party playbook?

was there racism in the beaver cleaver days your conservatives want the country to revert to?

was there sexism?

well, who did something about it...yup, us awful Libs

how about that conservative position on gay rights

Joe Lieberman is a disgrace in the U.S. Senate.

---Joe Lieberman is a disgrace in the U.S. Senate---

agreed

and thats an accomplishment considering the host of clowns we got there right now, standing out as a disgrace among disgraces

Do you think that Red-Blue divide has just existed since 2000? If you do, you are a bigger idiot than I gave you credit for being.

As for playbooks, I don't need one. Apparently you have one because I have never heard of them. You must be looking at yours upside down. Clearly a lack of education on your part. What you posted at 127 is clearly racist, yet you think it was not. Try turning your playbook upright then learning to read. But, alas, I do not have much hope that you will even accomplish goal number one much less be able to learn to read.I know you have one of those verbal computers so I am going to end this post by saying PFSSSST.

in fact before we regroup and attempt to seize the reins from the neo-nightmare I say we clean out all the appeasers within

the Republicans have been up to LIMITLESS no good but they were enabled by a lot of Dems unfortunately

The Nazis on this website can really post but avoid getting in their way

Looks like it is time for the capt/gerald show. Bye now. By, edwina.

I have never seen some much shit come from one group of questionable characters.

sorry son, I just call it like it is

not as I wish it to be

American history is filled with mistakes, much like any country

the difference between you and me is I learn while you merely defend

I'd comment on the stupid thing but really, what intelligent insight have you presented me with

I'm a Lib...it's you that needs to defend yourself, not I

and stop trying to High Moral me...everyone here saw you call me a girl in a negative connotation---the high road is gone for you

edwina and proud...sexist, night night

ok capt, your right

not a total loss though, the troll didn't eat any bait or debate any good points but he did reveal his sexist undertone

a point won is still a point

My response was to your post about me being a man. There are also women serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. Not only are you racist, you really are sexist. But most of all, you are anti-military and "brain impaired." Goodnight.

and before I forget

thanks for the above carol...good to be back
promise to bring some more high level discourse next time but i got a weakness for attacking trolls...I can't help myself

emmerson I thought you already left

did you want something? something scary in your room perhaps?

night son, try harder next time

until then except the loss and pound sand

and now for something completely different...

RE: Plame lawsuit gainst Cheney and Rove

Mark Corallo, a spokesman for Rove, said, "Without even having had a chance to review the complaint, it is clear that the allegations are absolutely and utterly without merit."

gotta love Republicans...all mindreaders, no evidence required

bet they all win the lottery a lot

and I don't know what the big deal in the Middle East is anyways

send Bush over there to meet with Hamas and Hezbollah and Iranian leaders and all he has to do is

LOOK THEM IN THE EYE

and everything will be cool

W can see souls...duh

Evangelization Includes Promoting Peace, Says Pope
Meets With Group of Visiting Bishops From Congo

VATICAN CITY, FEB. 6, 2006 (Zenit.org).- The commitment to promote peace is part of the Church's evangelizing mission, and consists of proclaiming that "God is love," says Benedict XVI.

The Holy Father explained this today when receiving in audience a group of bishops from Congo, who were concluding their five-yearly visit to the Holy See.

In recent days the Pontiff received each of the bishops in a personal audience. Such meetings enabled the Congolese prelates to report directly on the crisis their communities have endured since 1998, when war erupted.

The conflict in the Great Lakes region of Africa has been for control of Congo's enormous resources. Formally ended in 2003, though aftereffects are still felt, the war was blamed for 3 million deaths.

Speaking in French, Benedict XVI urged the bishops to invite all Congolese Catholics, "along with the country's inhabitants, to mobilize to work for peace and reconciliation."

"May they be courageous defenders of the dignity of every human being and bold witnesses of the charity of Christ to build an ever more just and fraternal society!" he exhorted.

Powder kegs

Quoting the reports presented by the bishops during their visit to Rome, Benedict XVI acknowledged "the difficult conditions in which you exercise your ministry."

"Past conflicts and the powder kegs of insecurity that endure leave profound wounds in the population, causing laxity and discouragement," he said.

Therefore, the Pope suggested that the bishops allow themselves to be mobilized by "the imperative of charity."

"For the holiness of your lives and missionary dynamism, be prophets of justice and peace," he urged his guests.

Quoting from his encyclical, "Deus Caritas Est," Benedict XVI added: "For the Church, charity is not a kind of welfare activity which could equally well be left to others, but is a part of her nature, an indispensable expression of her very being."

This task, continued the Pontiff, should characterize all the "living ecclesial communities," in particular priests and consecrated persons who dedicate their lives to the living of charity "at the service of the littlest, becoming credible witnesses of the love that Christ feels for them."

"Work for the unity of the People of God," the Holy Father recommended, "and give yourselves without sparing efforts to constitute a people of brothers, gathered by Christ and sent by Him."

This message from the Pope should serve as a guide to all lay persons who evangelize.

W can see souls! Wonderful! Can he see his soul?

The examination of our conscience is not solely for Catholics.

For an Examination of Conscience
From a Pastoral Letter of Archbishop Bruno Forte

For the Examination of Conscience

If possible, prepare yourself for confession with regularity, not allowing too much time to pass. Prepare your confession in a climate of prayer, responding to these questions under the gaze of God, seeing him as the one you can go to for help to progress more quickly along the path of the Lord.

1. "You shall not have other gods besides me" (Deuteronomy 5:7). "You shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind" (Matthew 22:37).

Do I love God like this? Do I give him the first place in my life? Do I eagerly reject all idols that could get between him and me, be it money, pleasure, superstition, or power? Do I listen with faith to his Word? Do I persevere in prayer?

2. "You shall not take the name of the Lord, your God, in vain" (Deuteronomy 5:11).

Do I respect the holy name of God? Do I abuse him in my references to him, offending him, or making use of him, instead of serving him? Do I bless God in each one of my actions? Do I surrender myself without reserve to his will for me, trusting entirely in him? Do I entrust myself with humility and confidence to the guidance and teaching of the pastors which the Lord has given to his Church? Do I make an effort to go deeper in and strengthen my life of faith?

3. "Take care to keep holy the Sabbath day as the Lord, your God, commanded you" (Deuteronomy 5: 12-15).

Do I make Sunday the center of my week, beginning with the most important moment, the celebration of the Eucharist? Do I use it, and the other days consecrated to the Lord, to praise and give thanks to God, to entrust myself to him and take rest in him? Do I participate faithfully and actively in the liturgy, preparing myself beforehand with prayer, and making the effort to obtain its fruits during the entire week? Do I sanctify the holy day with some act of love toward the needy?

4. "Honor your father and your mother" (Deuteronomy 5:16).

Do I love and respect those who have given me life? Do I make the effort to understand and help them, above all in their weaknesses and limits?

5. "Thou shalt not kill" (Deuteronomy 5:17).

Do I make the effort to respect and promote life in all of its stages and aspects? Do I do everything in my power to promote the good of the others? Have I done evil to someone with the explicit intention of doing it?

"You shall love your neighbor as yourself" (Matthew 22:39).

How do I live charity toward my neighbor? Am I attentive and available, above all with the poorest and weakest? Do I love myself, knowing how to accept my limits under the gaze of God?

6. "You shall not commit impure acts" (cf. Deuteronomy 5:18). "You shall not covet your neighbor's wife" (Deuteronomy 5:21).

Am I chaste in thoughts and actions? Do I make the effort to love with gratitude, free of the temptation to possess or be jealous? Do I always respect the dignity of the human person? Do I treat my body and the bodies of others as a temple of the Holy Spirit?

7. "You shall not steal" (Deuteronomy 5:19). "You shall not desire your neighbor's goods" (Deuteronomy 5:21).

Do I respect the goods of creation? Am I honest in my work and in my relations with my neighbor? Do I respect the fruit of others' labor? Am I envious of the goods of the others? Do I make an effort to make others happy, or do I only think of myself?

8. "You shall not bear dishonest witness against your neighbor" (Deuteronomy 5:20).

Am I sincere and loyal in each word and action? Do I always speak only the truth? Do I try to give confidence and act in a way that inspires confidence in the others?

9. Do I make an effort to follow the example of Christ in my life of surrender to God and my neighbor? Do I try to be like him: humble, poor and chaste?

10. Do I faithfully find the Lord in the sacraments, in fellowship, and in service to the poor? Do I live with hope in eternal life, seeing each thing under the light of God, always trusting in his promises?

Neocon - not conservative

Let us review for better label-making!

Neoconservatism in the United States

Some opponents of neoconservatives have sought to emphasize their interest in Israel and the relatively large proportion of Jewish neoconservatives, and have raised the question of "dual loyalty". A number of critics, such as Pat Buchanan, have accused them of putting Israeli interests above those of America. In turn these critics have been labeled as anti-Semites by many neoconservatives (which in turn has led to accusations of professional smearing, and then paranoia, and so on). However, it may be noted that many prominent neoconservatives are not Jewish, such as Michael Novak, Jeane Kirkpatrick, Frank Gaffney, and Max Boot. Furthermore, neoconservatives in the 1960s were much less interested in Israel before the June 1967 Six Day War. It was only after this conflict, which raised the specter of unopposed Soviet influence in the Middle East, that the neoconservatives became preoccupied by Israel's security interests. They promote the view that Israel is the US's strongest ally in the Middle East as the sole Western-style democracy in the region, aside from Turkey (George W. Bush has also supported Turkey in its efforts to join the European Union).

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One paragraph from the wikipedia page. You really have to read the rest of the page linked and I would seek additional sources on the subject.

This WH has been radical in their actions. Nobody can dispute the fact that radical IS NOT conservative. Radical is (in the old days) the opposite of conservative.

Neocons are a mix of Trotskite and