These people in the white house need to move over. They are freaking incompetent. If you own a lemonade stand it's ok. If you are a super power, it isn't.

Jeez...Bush can't even chew his food without it making news.

Wow,
David, did our friends lose their way to the next thread? Maybe I should go lay bread crumbs.

Mr. David Corn,

You are right (of course) but this misadministration is not concerned with the number of deaths. They think then number is a measure of effectiveness or shows how tough they are.

They really think it would be better to have more people killed. All the deaths are terrorists or potential terrorist.

UGH

Thanks for all of your work!

Kirk

David Corn, "talk about leadership". Ok, talk about it... Oh, you did, didn't you...

Let us talk cease fire when the last of Hezbollah in South Lebannon is either dead or departed to Syria or Iran. Syria and Iran use the terrorists to instigate, hassle, and cause harm to Israel because they are too cowardly to do it themselves. Ripe will be when Lebannon can take control and expel the terrorists from within their country. The Palestinians need to do the same with Hamas. Neither of the terrorist groups want peace, they want Isreal to be a non-entity.

I wonder if a test could be run on the blastocysts for terrorist traits?

Then we could just eliminate all of the terrorist blastocysts. Now that makes sense.

capt

Her first statement was that she was coming 'right away.' Now, it's lasting value.

The truth is, Israel is hammering the shyt out of Hesbollah and Lebanon is caught in the crossehairs. We're willing to give the Green Light to Israel to hammer Hesbollah at the cost of the fragile democracy in Lebanon. The US wants to give Israel the time to 'get the job done.'

We could broker a ceasefire in two minutes. All we'd have to do is call-off the Israeli miltary but NO, instead, we wait. More innocent blood on the hands of Bush,Rice and the American people.

Talk about a preemption?

HA!

It would mean no terrorists, eh?

capt

Capt,
They want to have it go on for a week. That way there will be no infrastructure left in Lebanon. Of course, the real problem down the road will be the countless terrorists that will be created all over the middle east because of what we've allowed to continue. And of course how much more dangerous it will be in the US because of the anger of those who live here and have loved ones killed while Bush chews his food and rubs women's shoulders instead of finding a diplomatic solution.
What is the white house waiting for? Either they are so incompetent that they are standing like deer in the head lights or they don't mind death and destruction of a people. I don't know which it is but either way it's ugly.

Historically "cease-fire" does not mean capitulation from any side or group. It has always been a time for collecting the bodies and moving the civilians out of harms way.

Now, any stopping of violence is surrender? It is a sign of weakness? Just how weak is it to get civilians out of the way or is it important they are still in their homes when the bombs strike?

That is not even a sincere argument, not if you have read a history book . . oh nevermind.

capt

It just doesn't get any better does it? shrub and his crew are the worst ever seen in the white house, if this is the best that america can do then we don't deserve any better. Love the reichwing and let them do what they want. Wonder where this is all going to end, maybe a mushroom cloud? Let's hope it is on DC and that might be a start to get us out of these messes that have originated there.

Happy has been given a yellow card. The next infraction will merit a red card.

Reaping what Bush sowed

The Middle East is burning. From Baghdad to Beirut, car bombs, suicide attacks, air strikes and a grim tally of civilian deaths are the new currency of daily life.

The extremist and rejectionist machinations of Iran, Syria, Hamas and Hezbollah are partly to blame. But so is an American administration that thought it could transform the Middle East overnight, using regime change in Iraq to jump start rapid democratization throughout the region.

Instead, Washington's ideological hubris and practical incompetence have succeeded only in setting the region ablaze, awakening extremist and militant voices.

The toppling of Saddam Hussein was intended to send shock waves across the Arab world, intimidating the region's brittle tyrannies while encouraging the spontaneous civic movements that have brought democracy to much of post-Communist Europe. In Iraq itself, democrats were to replace a brutal autocrat, providing a model for the region.

Precisely the opposite has happened. The war has not only engulfed Iraq in violence and made the country a magnet for jihadists, but it has also awakened sectarian tensions that are spreading beyond Iraq's borders. From Saudi Arabia to Lebanon, Shiites and Sunnis are cautiously eyeing each other, heading for a mounting rivalry that has already helped plunge Lebanon into chaos.

More HERE

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Starting wars, making America into an aggressor nation, giving the "green light" for violence is not leadership, it is the complete failure of leadership.

The USA and Bush are not an exception to the rule. No matter how much they try to make it so.

capt

More than 60 people died in the fighting between Israel and Hezbollah Wednesday, many of them civilians. - The NewsHour

Scratch 'N Win Ballots To Debut In November

WASHINGTON, DC In an effort to increase voter participation while generating additional revenue, several state election boards announced plans Monday to introduce new Scratch 'N Win ballots in November, giving citizens the chance to win the right to vote in the 2006 elections.

The ballots, which will retail for $1 and go on sale the morning of Nov. 7, are small three- by two-inch cards with a "prize area" obscured by a thin silver coating. Voters will scratch off this area and can win by matching three vote amounts, which will range from one to 1 million.

If the voter scratches off the "wild card" symbol an elephant silhouette they instantly win 10,000 votes for their state's Republican candidate.

More HERE

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Sounds about right!

capt

I almost made a comment about "scratch and sniff" ballots. Scratch and win makes more sense.

capt

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Happy has been given a yellow card. The next infraction will merit a red card.

Posted by: David Corn at July 19, 2006 05:05 PM

Curious as to why? Hye--idea--Red Card all Happies! he, he, he! Cop-out Cornhole spoofers are so shallow!

David, as you are probably more aware than me, the repugnants may consider Rice for a presidential run. They crave incompetent leadership like Rice.

From the previous blog I believe the 6 million Jews killed in WW II is tragic and there is no doubt about it.

We must never forget that Bush and his bed partners are part of the Project for the Next American Century and they are talking about the extermination of 6 billion human beings on planet Earth. They say that the world can only sustain 500 million people.

Israeli occupied territory indeed. Where is that Aipac trial? Oh yeah it has been changed four times.

U.S. Senate Unanimously Votes to Back Israel
On Capitol Hill, the U.S. Senate unanimously passed a resolution endorsing Israel's military attack and condemning Hezbollah as well as Iran and Syria. The House is expected to approve a similar resolution. Last night Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman declared "today, we are all IsraelisӠduring a speech to the organization Christians United for Israel.

Juan Cole's Informed Comment today is particularly telling with regard to the actions of the Israeli air force. A hospital, a Greek Orthodox church, a milk factory...

Maybe the Israeli Zionists believe if they can manage to slaughter 6 million Muslims, they can call it even. Oh, but I forgot, Hitler was German and Christian. Nevermind.

It is a shame that President Bush does not value Iraqi and Lebanese childrens lives as much as he values American embryo's.

SAVE THE AMERICAN EMBRYO'S.

KILL IRAQI'S AND LEBANESE.

SO VERY CHRISTIAN....

Clearly if there were yellow cards for being a jerk many would be long gone.

It is David's blog and he is the only one that he has to convince.

I applaud his action. I hope for more. He has tried to ask for everybody to be reasonable. Some just do not get it. Maybe now they will? Far better to boot the problem posters than to close down the blog.

IMHO

capt

Kathleen, prepare for the Four Horseman Of the Apocalypse, for they are upon us, and the Pale Rider is reaping his harvest.

The Soviets would have to kill about 21 million to get even, I do not know how many were of which religion but . . .

Settling old scores is always an excuse for a tyrant.

"Any excuse will serve a tyrant." ~ Aesop (620 BC - 560 BC), The Wolf and the Lamb

capt

Even ABC News commented last night on the deliberate targeting by Israel of Red Crescent convoys trying to deliver food and medical aid.

Children dying in Jesus' hometown on one side, Children dying in from starvation, thirst and lack of medicine on the other.

It's just war, man, just 'collateral damage' why the F should I care?

-T

From Juan Cole's Informed Comment

TALKING POINTS

Israel's attacks on innocent civilians and civilian infrastructure in Gaza and Lebanon are a violation of U.S. law, specifically the U.S. Arms Export Control Act and the U.S. Foreign Assistance Act. The U.S. Arms Export Control Act restricts the use of U.S. weapons to legitimate self-defense and internal policing; U.S. weapons cannot be used to attack civilians in offensive operations. The U.S. Foreign Assistance Act prohibits U.S. aid of any kind to a country with a pattern of gross human rights violations.

Israel's attacks on civilians and civilian infrastructure in Gaza and Lebanon are examples of collective punishment, which are prohibited under the Geneva Conventions.

Continued Israeli actions against the civilian population of Gaza and Lebanon are not only against U.S. laws and the Geneva Conventions, which Israel has reportedly been given a "green light" to continue for another week by the Administration, but they are destroying the American ability to fight the war on terror. They are also destroying Israel's ability to make peace with her neighbors through negotiations, the only real road to security for the state of Israel.

When Congress breaks the law, how can Americans respect the law? My fellow Nazi Americans, we are a damned nation!!!

I asked, but nobody's interested in moving this ER to Beirut, just yet.

-T

Hajji,

You have too large a heart! (Figuratively)

I know you would do it if you could.

capt

I always thought our trillion dollar military was to reap a peace dividend not to prove the simple case that a trillion dollar military can kick the backside of some small military force. The trillion dollar military was suppose to keep the peace.

Maybe since we know that does not work we can have a reasonable discussion about paring down our forces to be in synch with the peace that the can bring. The only amount we can afford is the amount that affords peace?

Nobody is talking about peace anymore?

Just a thought

capt

27 Hajji

You should NOT CARE. It just does not matter.

As long as terrorists a-holes die, it is a good thing. If one side fights without thought of collateral damage, the other side SHOULD fight in EXACTLY the same way. If they do not, they are F-ing stupid. If there are no rules for one side, there should be NO RULES for the other side.

Condi's mushroom cloud is not nuclear but does the damage just the same. The powerful are just ramrodding the weak. Ugly.

23 tons of explosives were dropped on a Hezbollah bunker. Top Hezbollah officials are believed to have been inside.

die terrorists

Meta-discussion: I appreciate reading a wide variety of viewpoints and links. With some thought, the posts can be both civil and pointed. I don't mind the attempts at skewing intellectual opponents. Do very much mind insulting language, even unintentionally insulting language.

But if somebody posts something which is stupid or crazy, feel free to call the POST stupid or crazy. Everybody slips up once in awhile...

MHO

'skewing'?? Isn't that 'skewering'?

But if somebody posts something which is stupid or crazy, feel free to call the POST stupid or crazy. Everybody slips up once in awhile...

DB

OK Dude, I'm feelin free to call your post stupid and crazy! Wow, what a rush. He he!

My fellow Nazi Americans, have you heard more information on Americans paying for their way out of Lebanon? Thank you for any information in this matter!!!

Not even those crazy Canadians agree with wacked out Cornnuts!

World Reactions: Israel is Right, and Talk of World War III

by Hillel Fendel

The G-8 leaders, including Bush, Blair, and Putin, are showing no signs of pressuring Israel to go easy - yet. In the U.S., there's talk of World War Three.

World leaders meeting in a suburb of the Russian city of St. Petersburg at the G-8 summit have come down squarely on Israel's side. They called for Hamas and Hizbullah to return the Israeli soldiers they are holding captive and for the cessation of rocket attacks on Israel - as conditions for Israel's cessation of its offensive on Lebanon.

The G-8 is a self-proclaimed Group of Eight industrialized nations, namely, the U.S.,
Russia, Britain, Germany, France, Italy, Canada and Japan.

Canada took a surprisingly pro-Israel approach when Prime Minister Stephen Harper told reporters before the summit that Israel "has a right to defend itself," and that Israel's offensive in Lebanon was a "measured" manifestation of that right. He clearly blamed the current warfare on Hamas and Hizbullah.

Gerald,

Is kidnapping and killing Israeli soldiers a crime, and against the Geneva convention? If so, why are you not bitching about that?

Why do you bitch about a victim's response to a horrible crime perpetrated on them?

#34 spy on this!, a very powerful post!!!

Hezbollah leader in hiding while civilians are left to fend for themselves. What a coward you corrnuts support!

Lucky for us Israel says - you can run but you can not hide.

23 tons of explosives were dropped on a Hezbollah bunker. Top Hezbollah officials are believed to have been inside.

Please exchange the name Bush for Olmert and the name Iraq for Lebanon!!!!! Bush = Olmert and Iraq = Lebanon!!!!!

Proportionality

Moral decisions in and of themselves cannot be considered immoral unless you know proportionality. There are three actions to consider in proportionality, such as intentions, circumstances, and consequences. I cannot judge Bush but I have perceptual opinions.

Here are my perceptual opinions regarding Bush's attack upon Iraq.

1. Intention - Bush wanted to make himself look like a big man to his father and to himself. Oil may have also been an intention as well as permanent military bases.

2. Circumstances - Bush lied to Americans that Iraq was an imminent threat to America's safety and security. If we do not go into Iraq, they will come here and we will no longer be safe and secure. Do we feel any more safe and secure now? The Nazis control Americans through fear.

3. Consequences - Bush's decisions laid the groundwork for war crimes, mass murders, crimes against humanity, torture, and rape of a foreign land. Americans have their freedoms and rights taken from them through the Patriot Acts. America's economy is such that the middle class is being dissolved. Contracts are given to boyfriends and Americans do not know where the money is going. Bush's attack upon Iraq raises proportionality to a level that his decision to attack Iraq is an immoral act. Grave eternal consequences are upon his person and soul and also with the people and their souls who have agreed with his brutal and inhumane actions upon the Iraqi people.

Dingy Harry supports Isreal? WTF? How are you Cornnuts going to spin this?

Congress Is Giving Israel Vote of Confidence
Both Parties Back Ally, Court Jewish Support

By Jim VandeHei
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, July 19, 2006; Page A05

Democratic and Republican congressional leaders are rushing to offer unalloyed support for Israel's offensive against Hezbollah fighters, reflecting a bipartisan desire to not only defend a key U.S. ally but also solidify long-term backing of Jewish voters and political donors in the United States, according to officials and strategists in both parties.

With Israel intensifying its air and artillery attacks on Lebanon and warning of a protracted war, the Senate yesterday unanimously passed a bipartisan resolution endorsing Israel's military campaign and condemning Hezbollah and its two backers, Iran and Syria. A few hours earlier, Senate Minority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) delivered his most strident defense of Israel since the conflict erupted a week ago. The House is expected to pass a similarly pro-Israel resolution today

Murders and war crimes do matter!!!!!

Dingy Harry and Dem party doesn't agree with you Cornnuts on Israel-Hezbollah conflick.

G-8 leaders including the Russians and Canadians don't agree with you.

Arab nations do not agree with you.

Looks like the only ones that agree with you are the terrorists themselves. No suprise there!

Olmert's attack upon Lebanon raises proportionality to a level that his decision to attack Lebanon is an immoral act. Grave eternal consequences are upon his person and soul and also with the people and their souls who have agreed with his brutal and inhumane actions upon the Lebanese people.

"Murders and war crimes do matter!!!!!"

Not when its non-xian, non-white people dying.

Seymour Hersch and Justinm Raimando have been hitting home runs on their claims about the middle east. The question remains "will Israel go nuclear on Iran" as Seymour has indicated.

The Iran Plans
Would President Bush go to war to stop Tehranfrom getting the bomb?
By Seymour M. Hersh
04/08/06 "New Yorker" -- -- The Bush Administration, while publicly advocating diplomacy in order to stop Iran from pursuing a nuclear weapon, has increased clandestine activities inside Iran and intensified planning for a possible major air attack. Current and former American military and intelligence officials said that Air Force planning groups are drawing up lists of targets, and teams of American combat troops have been ordered into Iran, under cover, to collect targeting data and to establish contact with anti-government ethnic-minority groups. The officials say that President Bush is determined to deny the Iranian regime the opportunity to begin a pilot program, planned for this spring, to enrich uranium.

American and European intelligence agencies, and the International Atomic Energy Agency (I.A.E.A.), agree that Iran is intent on developing the capability to produce nuclear weapons. But there are widely differing estimates of how long that will take, and whether diplomacy, sanctions, or military action is the best way to prevent it. Iran insists that its research is for peaceful use only, in keeping with the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, and that it will not be delayed or deterred.

There is a growing conviction among members of the United States military, and in the international community, that President Bushճ ultimate goal in the nuclear confrontation with Iran is regime change. Iranճ President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has challenged the reality of the Holocaust and said that Israel must be ҷiped off the map.ӠBush and others in the White House view him as a potential Adolf Hitler, a former senior intelligence official said. Ҕhatճ the name theyղe using. They say, ԗill Iran get a strategic weapon and threaten another world war?ՠӊ
A government consultant with close ties to the civilian leadership in the Pentagon said that Bush was ҡbsolutely convinced that Iran is going to get the bombӠif it is not stopped. He said that the President believes that he must do ҷhat no Democrat or Republican, if elected in the future, would have the courage to do,Ӡand Ҵhat saving Iran is going to be his legacy.Ӡ

One former defense official, who still deals with sensitive issues for the Bush Administration, told me that the military planning was premised on a belief that ҡ sustained bombing campaign in Iran will humiliate the religious leadership and lead the public to rise up and overthrow the government.ӠHe added, ҉ was shocked when I heard it, and asked myself, ԗhat are they smoking?ՠӠ

Olmert wanted to make himself look like a big man to his Iraqi people and to himself.

Will Israel attack Iran? Will they go nuclear?

I asked, but nobody's interested in moving this ER to Beirut, just yet.

-T

Dude, ever heard of the term - volunteer? Job security must be a big issue for you man! I once met a liberal who quit his job to volunteer to go to Africa and serve the poor. They just don't make liberals like they used to! he he he!

More pertinent to the last thread, but has some footage that we rarely see on TV:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7828123714384920696&q=peace+promise+land+propaganda

A pantomime president
From North Korea to Iraq to Lebanon, George Bush's lack of policy has led to a string of disasters

President Bush was against diplomacy before he was for it. But with the collapse of US foreign policy from the Middle East to North Korea he has claimed to have become a born-again realist. "And it's, kind of ... painful ... for some to watch, because it takes a while to get people on the same page," he said at his July 7 press conference, adding, in an astonished tone, "Not everybody thinks the exact same way we think. Different words mean different things to different people."
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Brilliant.

Kathleen, why shouldn't Israel attack Iran? Iran is already attacking them according to the NY Sun.

Hundreds of Iranian Troops Fighting in Lebanon

NY Sun ^ | 07/19/06 | NY Sun
Hundreds of Iranian Revolutionary Guard personnel are on the ground in Lebanon fighting Israel, security sources say. "I have no doubt whatsoever that they are there and operating some of the equipment," an Arab diplomatic source told The New York Sun yesterday. Another foreign source, based in Washington, said the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps contingent in Lebanon is based in Beirut and in the Bekaa Valley. He said the troops usually number a few dozen, but that the size of the force increased in connection with the hostilities that have broken out between Israel and Iran's proxy, Hezbollah, over the...

Why do you Cornnuts continue to call appeasing terrorists diplomacy?

In Beirut, Embassy Tells Stranded Americans: Evacuation Is a Mouse-Click Away

Lebanon: Telephone service is spotty -- both land lines and cellular networks are on-again, off-again in war-struck areas. Some even say that cellular telephone networks are down entirely. Electricity is out in parts of Beirut and southern Lebanon, probably as a result of Israeli bombing runs which targeted civilian infrastructure, including power plants and transformers.

An estimated 25,000 Americans were in Lebanon when the bombing began, according to CNN. A couple hundred appear to have made it out -- and the State Department says it plans on evacuating "as many as" 2,400 by Thursday. The rest -- by my count, more than 23,000 -- are being told to sit tight as the Israeli bombing continues, wait by their phones for a call, and check the embassy Web site for more information. So says undersecretary of state Nicholas Burns: "We have an open line to all American citizens. We're in touch with them by Web site."

Yes, Burns assured CNN, "[The evacuation is] very well thought out."

Heckuva job, Condi?

More HERE

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This is no way to run a state department.

capt

ALBERT EINSTEIN

"He who joyfully marches to music rank and file, has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be a part of so base an action. It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder."
~ Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)

Words from a wise man!!!!!

The Definition of Tyranny
By Bob Herbert

Congress is dithering and the American public doesn't even seem particularly concerned as the administration of George W. Bush systematically trashes such fundamental American values as justice, due process, respect for human rights and submission to the rule of law.

In the kangaroo courts that the administration concocted to try detainees at Guant?namo Bay, Cuba, a defendant could be prevented from seeing the evidence against him, would not have the right to attend his own trial and would not have the right to appeal the sentence to a civilian court.

That's slapstick justice, a process worthy of the Marx Brothers.

"You have been accused of being a terrorist."

"Where is the evidence?"

"We can't show it to you."

"That's ridiculous."

"So is this court. We find you guilty. Take him away."
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I disagree. The Marx Brothers were much too sophisticated to be compared to the Bush crew.

#57
Just like Katrina. It, of course, will be someone else's fault. And Condi will be buying shoes.

Ralph Reed's Comeuppance

Analysis: The former leader of the Christian right suffers a humiliating defeat in his Georgia primary race, thanks to his ties to a disgraced lobbyist

In the end, voters punished Reed for the same kind of duplicitious political behavior he used to build campaigns against. As revelations from the Abramoff case slowly leaked out, it appeared that as a lobbyist and consultant, Reed had urged his base to fight tribal casino gambling and state lotteries with the help of $5 million from competing gaming interests in four southern states. "I would have voted for Reed but it really bothered me that he took that money for casinos. I gave Cagle a chance," said Mike Craig, 46, a voter in Cobb County.

Reed's evasive, constantly shifting explanations didn't help his cause. Reed first denied he used gambling funds for his lobbying efforts, then stated he didn't know the source of the funds, then said had he known he would not have accepted them, which ran counter to e-mails between him and Abramoff released by the U.S. Senate's Indian Affairs Committee. Then a week before the election, a tribe in Texas filed a federal lawsuit alleging fraud against the pair. In TV ads Reed continued to blame the "liberal media," but for long stretches in the campaign he held no events and did no press interviews. Even a campaign appearance by Rudy Giuliani didn't help.

The Reed faithful —†at least what was left of it —†thought he had been hung out to dry by his former friends. "I believe there's a real tight network with the senators," said Stan Coates, 52, of Marietta in Cobb County, referring to the nearly two dozen GOP lawmakers who had publicly urged Reed to step down during the campaign. Referrring to Abramoff, he added: "To be guilty by association, people listen to those lies and hang onto them," said Coates.

More HERE

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Hardly the just comeuppance for a nefarious two-faced lying conman. Not even just for a neoconman.

He belongs in the cross bar hotel and he would not have enough money to buy his way out, that would be just. He is a garden variety criminal and he belongs in jail with his business partners.

capt

LBH,

Great bitch-slapping of these guys with your quotes. A lot of the people here have no moral or intellectual integrity. They are mentally weak and intellectually lazy.

All they can cling to is their blinding hatred for Bush and capitalism.

Gerald, Albert Einstien later changed his tune by pushing for the A bomb once Hilter was known to be making one for the Nazi's. Yes, he was a wise man!

ALBERT EINSTEIN
and the
ATOMIC BOMB

The physicist Albert Einstein did not directly participate in the invention of the atomic bomb. But as we shall see, he was instrumental in facilitating its development.

In 1905, as part of his Special Theory of Relativity, he made the intriguing point that a large amount of energy could be released from a small amount of matter. This was expressed by the equation E=mc2 (energy = mass times the speed of light squared). The atomic bomb would clearly illustrate this principle.

But bombs were not what Einstein had in mind when he published this equation. Indeed, he considered himself to be a pacifist. In 1929, he publicly declared that if a war broke out he would "unconditionally refuse to do war service, direct or indirect... regardless of how the cause of the war should be judged." (Ronald Clark, "Einstein: The Life and Times", pg. 428). His position would change in 1933, as the result of Adolf Hitler's ascent to power in Germany. While still promoting peace, Einstein no longer fit his previous self-description of being an "absolute pacifist".

Einstein's greatest role in the invention of the atomic bomb was signing a letter to President Franklin Roosevelt urging that the bomb be built. The splitting of the uranium atom in Germany in December 1938 plus continued German aggression led some physicists to fear that Germany might be working on an atomic bomb. Among those concerned were physicists Leo Szilard and Eugene Wigner. But Szilard and Wigner had no influence with those in power. So in July 1939 they explained the problem to someone who did: Albert Einstein. According to Szilard, Einstein said the possibility of a chain reaction "never occurred to me", altho Einstein was quick to understand the concept (Clark, pg. 669+; Spencer Weart & Gertrud Weiss Szilard, eds., "Leo Szilard: His Version of the Facts", pg. 83). After consulting with Einstein, in August 1939 Szilard wrote a letter to President Roosevelt with Einstein's signature on it. The letter was delivered to Roosevelt in October 1939 by Alexander Sachs, a friend of the President. Germany had invaded Poland the previous month; the time was ripe for action. That October the Briggs Committee was appointed to study uranium chain reactions.

But the Briggs Committee moved very slowly, prompting Einstein, Szilard, and Sachs to write to FDR in March 1940, pointing again to German progress in uranium research (Weart & Szilard, pg. 119+). In April 1940 an Einstein letter, ghost-written by Szilard, pressed Briggs Committee chairman Lyman Briggs on the need for "greater speed" (Weart & Szilard, pg. 125+; Clark, pg. 680).

Research still proceeded slowly, because the invention of the atomic bomb seemed distant and unlikely, rather than a weapon that might be used in the current war. It was not until after the British MAUD Report was presented to FDR in October 1941 that a more accelerated pace was taken. This British document stated that an atomic bomb could be built and that it might be ready for use by late 1943, in time for use during the war (Richard Rhodes, "The Making of the Atomic Bomb", pg. 377+).

"We have to make certain that anything that we do is going to be of lasting value."

Yeah like des(troy)ing the summer tourist season, civilian infrastucture and anything else that works in Lebanon.

Hardly the just comeuppance for a nefarious two-faced lying conman. Not even just for a neoconman.

He belongs in the cross bar hotel and he would not have enough money to buy his way out, that would be just. He is a garden variety criminal and he belongs in jail with his business partners.

capt

Capt, I agree. I never liked Ralph Reed and he's no better than the biggest con man of all
Rev. Jesse Jackson who doesn't deserve the title Rev. Lock them both up at Gitmo! ha ha

Yeah like des(troy)ing the summer tourist season, civilian infrastucture and anything else that works in Lebanon.

Uncle Dad

UD, Lebanon could have stopped this from ever happening by disarming Hezbollah according to the UN mandate given them.

Mark Regev, an Israeli prime ministerial spokesman, complained that neither the Lebanese Government nor the international community had ever acted to implement UN Security Council resolutions 1559 and 1580 calling for Hezbollah to be disarmed along with all other Lebanese militias.

More good news that Arabs aren't listening to Cornnuts!

Arab world's awakening brings hope

NY Daily News ^ | July 19 2006 | Michael Goodwin
With bombs and rockets falling and civilians getting killed in three countries, it is hard to see any good news in the Mideast. But amid the carnage, there is hope. Like a ray of sunshine piercing the darkness, some Muslims are beginning to awaken to the danger of the Islamic extremists in their ranks. A handful of Arab countries, led by Saudi Arabia, are openly criticizing Hezbollah for starting the war with Israel. In the annals of Arab versus Jew, it is rare for any Arab country to publicly air the family's dirty laundry, especially during a war. Yet that...

Another Arab that disagrees with Capts Morals:

Arab world is 'contaminated'

Arab Times ^ | Ahmed Al-Jarallah

THE Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora is supposed to be more frank and forthright, and talk about everything without any reservations. He should call spade a spade and declare that it is the adventurists who have destroyed his beautiful country. Siniora should have been frank from the beginning. Now the situation has become unbearable and unacceptable after Hezbollah became a state within the state of Lebanon. With his uncalculated and reckless adventures Hassan Nasrallah has led the people of Lebanon and the Arab world into disaster. He has exposed Lebanon to unnecessary risks under the orders of outsiders, who are telling him what to do. These outsiders are instructing Nasrallah to play political games, which are not in the interest of Lebanon or people of Arab countries.

In this situation remaining silent is not an option. Frankness and transparency have become necessary. Siniora should tell Nasrallah that he has put Lebanon in a critical situation. With his irresponsible adventures Nasrallah has emulated Saddam Hussein, who put Iraq in a dilemma with his deceptive military parades and empty threats. As a result of Saddam's antics Iraq has been destroyed and is still under occupation. It is getting closer to an ethnic and sectarian war. The destruction of Iraq was caused by one person. Similarly the ill-advised actions of one person are destroying Lebanon.

Like Saddam Hussein, Hassan Nasrallah has done some grave miscalculations. Maybe he thought that the capture of the two Israeli soldiers will be limited to the kidnapping incident and his conditions for their release will boost his popularity. Maybe Nasrallah assumed this will help him achieve the ambitions of another country, which wants to have a presence in Lebanon. However, Nasrallah has led himself and the people of Lebanon into a dangerous situation. He must be aware Almighty Allah prohibited such behavior when He said "Do not put yourself in danger."

I am hoping for Israel to wipe out Hezbollah and Hamas. There will not be peace for Lebanon nor the Palestinians with Israel until the terrorists are defeated and removed from the region. Next up, Syria and Iran. Go Israel! And don't wall for that cease-fire crap. Nothing more than a chance for Hezbollah and Hamas to reload and reinforce.

Good article by Fred Kaplan on Slate explaining some important points about Hezbollah.

Al Gore should have called his mockumentary
A Convenient Parody.

He truly is off his proverbial rocker. Something most people knew 6 years ago yet most Liberals find him credible. Keep thinking that way folks. It only helps us Conservatives.

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Thanks for the feedback...

I don't mind the lunatic rantings by the resident trolls here about Bush, but when they come out swinging for Hezbollah when these terrorists aren't supported by anyone else other than Syria and Iran, enough is enough!

I have a niece who just finished basic military training in Israel and is at a border check point where the other two soldiers were kidnapped. We talk to her on a daily basis when possible and are very worried about her safety. She on the other hand is not worried and is proud to be part of the defense of her new country.

I find it personally insulting that liberal hacks like these cornnuts who thank they know everything about the middle east because they read about it on the Daily Kook web site but have never been there. It's only right to point out there blind hatred (bigotry) of the Jewish state and it's people.

Left wingers undying support of terrorist in full display:

Hamas and Hezbollah Find Support in an Unexpected Place

Fox News ^ | July 19, 2006 |

Who Likes Hamas? With even the Arab League blaming Hezbollah and Hamas for the violence in the Middle East, it seems the terrorist organizations' last bastions of support are Iran, Syria — and parts of California. Left-wing protesters chanting their support for the two groups in front of the Israeli consulate in San Francisco had to be separated from pro-Israel demonstrators by police the other day. Many protesters waved Palestinian flags, while some mask-wearing demonstrators wore t-shirts advocating violence against Jews.

Friggin Liberal Morals - according to Capt & Co.!

Alan Beuf(?) on Sloan suggests that this war won't be Israel's last, but you have to infer the reasons for this claim.

Err, Aleuf Benn on Salon ...

Apologies.

Coulter bitch slaps liberals again! This ones LOL, unless you're a liberal!!!

Liberals: Born to Run

by Ann Coulter

I knew the events in the Middle East were big when the New York Times devoted nearly as much space to them as it did to a New York court ruling last week rejecting gay marriage.

Some have argued that Israel's response is disproportionate, which is actually correct: It wasn't nearly strong enough. I know this because there are parts of South Lebanon still standing.

Most Americans have been glued to their TV sets, transfixed by Israel's show of power, wondering, "Gee, why can't we do that?"

Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean says that "what's going on in the Middle East today" wouldn't be happening if the Democrats were in power. Yes, if the Democrats were running things, our cities would be ash heaps and the state of Israel would have been wiped off the map by now.

But according to Dean, the Democrats would have the "moral authority that Bill Clinton had" -- no wait! keep reading -- "when he brought together the Israelis and Palestinians." Clinton really brokered a Peace in Our Time with that deal -- "our time" being a reference to that five-minute span during which he announced it. Yasser Arafat immediately backed out on all his promises and launched the second intifada.

The fact that Israel is able to launch an attack on Hezbollah today without instantly inciting a multination conflagration in the Middle East is proof of what Bush has accomplished. He has begun to create a moderate block of Arab leaders who are apparently not interested in becoming the next Saddam Hussein.

There's been no stock market crash, showing that the markets have confidence that Israel will deal appropriately with the problem and that it won't expand into World War III.

But liberals can never abandon the idea that we must soothe savage beasts with appeasement -- whether they're dealing with murderers like Willie Horton or Islamic terrorists. Then the beast eats you.

There are only two choices with savages: Fight or run. Democrats always want to run, but they dress it up in meaningless catchphrases like "diplomacy," "detente," "engagement," "multilateral engagement," "multilateral diplomacy," "containment" and "going to the U.N."

I guess they figure, "Hey, appeasement worked pretty well with ... uh ... wait, I know this one ... ummm ... tip of my tongue ..."

Democrats like to talk tough, but you can never trap them into fighting. There is always an obscure objection to be raised in this particular instance -- but in some future war they would be intrepid! One simply can't imagine what that war would be.

Democrats have never found a fight they couldn't run from.

Knucklehead Diplomacy, Bush Style

Here's the leader of the free world speaking to President Hu Jintao of China: "Where you going? Home? This is your neighborhood; it won't take you long to get home. . . . You get home in 8 hours? Me too! Russia is a big country, and you're a big country."

The era of cowboy diplomacy may be over, but we have two and a half more years of knucklehead diplomacy to go.

It would be funny if it weren't so terrifying. Remember, right after 9-11 when the big Republican talking point was "thank god the grown-ups are in charge"?

Doesn't have quite the same ring today.

But as terrorist violence and military reprisals worsen in Israel and Lebanon, and Americans feel less safe, a certain skepticism of the political motivations on all sides is some comfort.

More HERE

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The world is less safe for all of the Bush machinations. It does not take a rocket scientists to know voting for him was a bad bet. To continue to support the force that is destroying us is not sane, not smart and clearly not well thought through. If he is making the world less safe by his blunders it is the duty of a citizen to make him stop.

Blind support is blind and limited without reason.

capt

Don't take it personally LBH. He he he. Any neice of yours is a friend of mine. Her government's foriegn policy however it brutal and murderous. There is no need for killing innocent Lebanese children. It's just collateral damage I suppose you'd say. Well, that me be ok for you but it's not ok for me. I'm glad Israel is our ally in the middle east. I'm glad Lenanon is too. I think we should pull the plug on the bombing. It's criminal.

There will be peace in the Middle East when an enemy of Israel is defeated. It happened with Egypt and Jordan. The palistinian people are not the enemies of Israel nor are the Lebanese. But Hamas and Hezbollah are as are their sponsors, Syria and Iran. When the terrorists are defeated and Syria and Iran have democratic governments, there may be peace in the region. Until then, no cease-fire, no concessions, and no waivering. All the above must happen, because the terrorists, Syria and Iran do not want land for the palistinians, they want Israeli's out of the middle east. Not going to happen. If there is to be peace, it will come from Israel being the victor, not the appeasor.

76 I had relations with Ann Coulter once. Write me at my personal email address and I'll tell you what I found!!!!!!!

Geron gains on stem-cell rat study

Safety experiment drives biotech stock, despite Bush veto.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Geron Corp.'s stock price rose significantly after the biotech announced that its experimental, stem-cell-based therapy for spinal cord injuries is safe in rats.

Geron's (Charts) stock price rose 4 percent following the announcement regarding the experimental treatment called GRNOPC1, which is based on human embryonic stem cells. The study is still in the early stages, and analysts believe that the biotech industry is years away from producing stem-cell-based therapies.

More HERE

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Bush can go down in history with regard for spinal cord injured just like Reagan did for AID's. A effin monster that put ideology before good sense, demagoguery for HIS sake while others suffer. It is just like the Terri Schivo debacle. If the neocons think it will rally support they will set aside concern for anybody except themselves.

They should be very ashamed. But just like sociopaths they do not care. Sely and party before anything.

capt

All they can cling to is their blinding hatred for Bush and capitalism.

Factchecker

That's OK, between you, me and happy, capitalism is still thriving as the world's envy. Even with all my posting today I was able to close a $100,000 deal with a 15% commission. Not bad in a hard days work of defeating liberalism and creating capitalism.

Bush did not nor has he ever put an end to stem-cell research. If there is such promise, the private sector will gladly fund the research and profit from it if it is successful. This is America, not France.

Ahh France. the land of long bread and stinky cheese.

Different perspectives at

Asia Times Online

#80 I had relations with Ann Coulter once. Write me at my personal email address and I'll tell you what I found!!!!!!!

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I know, I know already. You once were a women that is now a man and dated Ann Coulter. Let me guess, you are............... Helen Thomas!

No, No, Al Franken!

No, No, Rhandy Rhodes. My liberal friends tell me she/he has a big one! She decided to keep it after the operation and could be a he or she! ha ha ha!

U.S. ramps up evacuations from Lebanon

BEIRUT, Lebanon (AP) —†The United States ramped up its evacuation of citizens from Lebanon on after a slow start as a luxury cruise ship carrying 1,000 Americans arrived in Cyprus early Thursday, a week after the Israeli bombardment began.

The Orient Queen reached Cyprus' port of Larnaca after a nine-hour journey, completing the first in a massive relay to evacuate thousands of U.S. citizens from war-ton Lebanon.

The eight-deck cruise liner's voyage was the first mass U.S. exodus from Lebanon since Israeli airstrikes started more than a week ago. The Orient Queen was just one among dozens of cruise ships taking part in the evacuation of thousands of foreigner fd rom Lebanon.

More HERE

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Bush gives the green-light BEFORE our people have been evacuated? That says a lot about what are his priorities. Bomb first American citizens after, if we lose a few well, that is the cost of incompetence.

What is a few moer Americans oine way or the other. A cease fire would have allowed for it but continued bombing of the grain silos and hospitals was in a rush. They only have until the end of the week. Hurry hurry, lots to kill and only so many sorties?

That is the sickest most vile discount of American citizens lives our government has made in many years!

capt

BYOB

Capt can't accept anyhting less than a government program. We all know how well the government handles programs (Katrina).

LBH --- Advice. You destroy the effectiveness of your serious posts by engaging in such trash as #86.

One more week? Don't think so. Israel will go til all of Hezbollah and Hamas are defeated. No holding back this time. The time is ripe for both of them to be wiped out.

#51 kathleen, that has been my prediction but I thought Bush would go nuclear before Olmert. Either Bush or Olmert will go nuclear. The reinstatement of the military draft has already been drawn and it will now be voted on.

kathleen, THERE WILL BE NO PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN 2008!!! A 2006 ELECTION IS NOW 50-50.

HITLER BUSH WILL NOT GIVE UP POWER FOR AS LONG AS HE LIVES. WE ARE NOW DEEPLY ENTRENCHED AS A FASCIST STATE.

Two typo's in one post for the capt. Either the trolls are getting to him or he is low on medication. Better call the White House to get that prescription refilled.

LBH --- Advice. You destroy the effectiveness of your serious posts by engaging in such trash as #86.

DB

Mr Benson, I am sorry you have no sense of humor! One mans trash is another mans treasure! Lighten up, or light one up if that helps!!

"UN resolutions"

1955-1992:
* Resolution 106: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for Gaza raid".
* Resolution 111: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people".
* Resolution 127: " . . . 'recommends' Israel suspends it's 'no-man's zone' in Jerusalem".
* Resolution 162: " . . . 'urges' Israel to comply with UN decisions".
* Resolution 171: " . . . determines flagrant violations' by Israel in its attack on Syria".
* Resolution 228: " . . . 'censures' Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control".
* Resolution 237: " . . . 'urges' Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees".
* Resolution 248: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan".
* Resolution 250: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem".
* Resolution 251: " . . . 'deeply deplores' Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250".
* Resolution 252: " . . . 'declares invalid' Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital".
* Resolution 256: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli raids on Jordan as 'flagrant violation".
* Resolution 259: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation".
* Resolution 262: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for attack on Beirut airport".
* Resolution 265: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan".
* Resolution 267: " . . . 'censures' Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem".
*Resolution 270: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon".
* Resolution 271: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem".
* Resolution 279: " . . . 'demands' withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon".
* Resolution 280: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli's attacks against Lebanon".
* Resolution 285: " . . . 'demands' immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon".
* Resolution 298: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's changing of the status of Jerusalem".
* Resolution 313: " . . . 'demands' that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon".
* Resolution 316: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon".
* Resolution 317: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon".
* Resolution 332: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's repeated attacks against Lebanon".
* Resolution 337: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for violating Lebanon's sovereignty".
* Resolution 347: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli attacks on Lebanon".
* Resolution 425: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon".
* Resolution 427: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon.
* Resolution 444: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces".
* Resolution 446: " . . . 'determines' that Israeli settlements are a 'serious
obstruction' to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention".
* Resolution 450: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon".
* Resolution 452: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories".
* Resolution 465: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's settlements and asks all member
states not to assist Israel's settlements program".
* Resolution 467: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's military intervention in Lebanon".
* Resolution 468: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of
two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return".
* Resolution 469: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's failure to observe the
council's order not to deport Palestinians".
* Resolution 471: " . . . 'expresses deep concern' at Israel's failure to abide
by the Fourth Geneva Convention".
* Resolution 476: " . . . 'reiterates' that Israel's claim to Jerusalem are 'null and void'".
* Resolution 478: " . . . 'censures (Israel) in the strongest terms' for its
claim to Jerusalem in its 'Basic Law'".
* Resolution 484: " . . . 'declares it imperative' that Israel re-admit two deported
Palestinian mayors".
* Resolution 487: " . . . 'strongly condemns' Israel for its attack on Iraq's
nuclear facility".
* Resolution 497: " . . . 'decides' that Israel's annexation of Syria's Golan
Heights is 'null and void' and demands that Israel rescinds its decision forthwith".
* Resolution 498: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon".
* Resolution 501: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops".
* Resolution 509: " . . . 'demands' that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon".
* Resolution 515: " . . . 'demands' that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and
allow food supplies to be brought in".
* Resolution 517: " . . . 'censures' Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions
and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon".
* Resolution 518: " . . . 'demands' that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon".
* Resolution 520: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's attack into West Beirut".
* Resolution 573: " . . . 'condemns' Israel 'vigorously' for bombing Tunisia
in attack on PLO headquarters.
* Resolution 587: " . . . 'takes note' of previous calls on Israel to withdraw
its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw".
* Resolution 592: " . . . 'strongly deplores' the killing of Palestinian students
at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops".
* Resolution 605: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's policies and practices
denying the human rights of Palestinians.
* Resolution 607: " . . . 'calls' on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly
requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention.
* Resolution 608: " . . . 'deeply regrets' that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians".
* Resolution 636: " . . . 'deeply regrets' Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians.
* Resolution 641: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's continuing deportation of Palestinians.
* Resolution 672: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for violence against Palestinians
at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount.
* Resolution 673: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to cooperate with the United
Nations.
* Resolution 681: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's resumption of the deportation of
Palestinians.
* Resolution 694: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's deportation of Palestinians and
calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return.
* Resolution 726: " . . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of Palestinians.
* Resolution 799: ". . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of 413 Palestinians
and calls for their immediate return.

The U.N. is a joke. That is why most people ignore it.

With all due respect to the owner of this site, he shouldn't have to be here monitoring comments from adults. I say insult those in the public arena all you want, without profanity, but keep the disagreements between the posters civil. One can disagree and make a valid argument without profanity and name calling. David isn't a baby sitter nor should he have to feel like one. I disagree with Bush on a number of things but I do not resort to calling him names to make a point of my disagreement. I think a lot of you get your jollies by calling the President a name. How childish.

I disa

Funny that people (neoconartists) that do not believe in the U.N. site them (resolution 1559) when it's convenient. Either you believe in U.N. or not.

Psalm 128:1

Blessed is every one that fears the Lord: that walks in his ways.

Psalm 59:9

Because of his strength will I wait upon him: for God is my defense.

Uncle Dad,

You can post all the worthless UN resolutions you want, but that still has nothing to do with the agreement of the entire world (except Berkley CA) that Hezbollah was wrong in kidnapping the two soldiers and attacking Israel. Not even the Arab league of Nations is using your liberal talking points. My God man, wake the F*ck up! Hezbollah is a terrorist organization that was ordered to be disarmed. You friggin terrorist lovers are getting annoying!!

Ok, LBH. I'll just go back to skipping over all your posts the way I do the rest of the trolls.

I am not the one quoting U.N. resolutions. They are all are worthless as is the U.N.

Uncle Dad

Sighting the UN resolution 1559 just goes to show how worthless the UN is, even if they sometimes get a resolution right.

I believe the UN should be put on min wage with bonus incentives for job performance. This will get there lazy asses in gear!

Ok, LBH. I'll just go back to skipping over all your posts the way I do the rest of the trolls.

DB

Ah, DB, you sure know how to hurt a guy's feelings!!! I'll have you know, I may not get over this.

1. Read Matthew 25:31-46! When you do it to the least of my brethren, you do it for me.

2. Read Matthew 5:1-12! The beatitudes!

3. Read Luke 10:25-37! Who is my neighbor?

4. Read Luke 12:13-21! These verses warn us against greed.

I do not deny the kidnapping was wrong, any loss of freedom in my mind is wrong. The problem is obvious, should we (or Israel by proxy) bomb and destroy a nation of civilians because of it? How many American soldiers have been captured by the "militants" in Iraq? Several I think. Is Iran behind those "captures"? Probably. So should we get involved in this war? Why don’¥ we bomb Iran? You tell me.

Arming Iraq

How many American soldiers have been captured by the "militants" in Iraq? Several I think. Is Iran behind those "captures"? Probably. So should we get involved in this war? Why don’¥ we bomb Iran? You tell me.

UD

If we had the resolve as Israel does to go after our enemies with full force we would not be in such a quagmire in Iraq. We could put an end to this insurgency once and for all if it weren't for liberals that can't stomach a strong use of force. We can't get info from them, we can't lock them up and for Gods sake don't be hurt anyone! Hell yes bomb Iran, start with Syria. Bomb the shit out of them and then move on to the big boys. Forget this door to door crap and just bomb them like Clinton did to the Bosnians! It worked for him didn't it?

In The Village Voice, Nat Hentoff has an article entitled "Rabbis against torture".

A politically correct war is no way to fight. It didn't work in Viet Nam, it will not work in Iraq, and it will not work with Iran or Syria. Force the leaders into submission with our strength and let the people of those respective countries punish their former dictators. You have to give those who thirst for freedom the opportunity to be free. That means we have to destroy their captors. No freedom until then.

I suppose that should some militant from Los Angeles kidnap the Bush twins, President Bush should order the entire city bombed until he gets his daughters back? Is this the reasoning these trolls have put forth? What if they were held in London, or Paris? What about Quebec or Santiago? If a person were to declare themselves proud White Supremacists, would you still give answer to their digs? Why do you respond to such racist and hateful people as those I've seen on this blog? How is it that extremist right-wing posters have managed to get the upper hand on a liberal website? Free Republic and LGF would NEVER allow such an event to occur. Do these Bush supporters even appreciate the freedom of speech they are given here? Or, do they just love to spout hatefulness?

Interesting that "your" people (neoconsuperfratboys) have complete control of all 4 branches of government (executive?, house, senate, Supreme Court) but somehow it's us powerless liberals that are to blame. Your argument is baseless and lame. Wake up or go back to sleep. And do all of humanity a favor.

Sorry if I encouraged troll feeding. Plase do not feed the trolls. Help maintain blogging hygene. Thank you.

Four branches of Government?

The trolls are hungry and we probably should not feed them anymore, funny how they eat what they hate?

Four branches of Government?

It was a joke. Ever hear of irony?

hygene?

Oh, I get it. You were making a funny. I should have realized you were just being silly as you were with the rest of your posts. I'll get it next time. Everything uncledad posts is full of irony. I added that to my checklist. Carry on.

Plese allow me to introduce you to Racial Supremacism.

The Talmud specifically defines all who are not Jews as non-human animals, and specifically dehumanises gentiles as not being descendants of Adam. We will now list some of the Talmud passages which relate to this topic:

"The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts." Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b

"The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honour the the dog more than the non-Jew." Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30

"Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therefore he will be served by animals in human form." Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855

"A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal." Coschen hamischpat 405

"The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs." Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b

"Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human." Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b

"If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog." Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b

"If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: "God will replace 'your loss', just as if one of his oxen or asses had died"." Jore dea 377, 1

"Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between animals." Talmud Sanhedrin 74b

"It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile." Sepher ikkarim III c 25

"It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah." Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5

"A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands." Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b

"Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God." Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772

How does a Jew prepare for his crime? Moed Kattan 17a . If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.

Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.

Jews Have Superior Legal Status Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."

Jews May Steal from Non-Jews Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."

Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

Jews May Lie to Non-Jews Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.

Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

Insults Against Blessed Mary Sanhedrin 106a . Says Mary was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.

Horrible Blasphemy Against Jesus Christ Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is being boiled in "hot excrement."

Sanhedrin 43a. Jesus deserved execution: "On the eve of the Passover, Yeshu (Jesus) was hanged...Do you suppose that he was one for whom a defense could be made? Was he not a Mesith (enticer)?"

Talmud Attacks Non jews beliefs Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians (minnim) and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.

Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament.

Dr. Israel Shahak of Hebrew University reports that the Israelis burned hundreds of New Testament Bibles in occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).
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Is this the thinking of loving human beings? Are these the people we are defending? Is this acceptable only if you are Jewish? What do Jewish people think of these teachings? Mr. Corn, will you ban me because my post is too long?

Opps, not 'hygene' but 'hygiene': here, sanitary or sanitation. Maybe 'antisepsis' is the better term?

Gaza has been without drinking water for 3 weeks in 100 degree heat. Thank you democracy, sorry we picked the wrong guys.

Good to go! At least I knew you weren't trying to say Hi Gene!

I did not say all was ironic, obviously your little pea brain cannot comprehend; go back to your 2 fingered website. Why do you persist here? Just to argue with a liberal? Maybe you should try it in person some time. Oh wait, you probably don't talk to the (terrorist) liberals in real life. If I was a Christian I'd pray for you, but since I'm not, I won't. This is my last transmission as I have a job to attend to tomorrow, try it some time, working for a living, that’s what us working people do.

I was being ironic with my answer. Do you think I actually have a list? Come on! I hope you are as successful in your job as I am. Work is good for the soul.

# Red Alert...thanks for posting this. Deuteronomy is violent and filled with hate for others than non-Jews.

This book written by Jewish men has provided a foundation for some of the racism that is alive and well in Israel.

I subjected myself to the MSM tonight and David hit one of the nails on the head, the media is mainly focused on the well being of Americans.

Although on Chris Matthews and Keith Olberman they mentioned the two children who were Israeli Arabs and killed by Hezbollah's missiles/rockets ( I don't know my weapons) 16 times in two hours. There was not one mention of children in Lebanon being killed once. Just 300 Lebanese people.

I am convinced more than ever before our media is also Israeli occupied territory. They are so far from being balanced, and accurate that they are completely blind to their own complete failure in telling the truth, the facts.

Hezbollahs demands prior to this latest illegal invasion of Israel seem so reasonable. Israel stop daily flying in Lebanese air space, stop sending your ships in to Lebanese territorial waters, turn over the maps of land mines in southern Lebanon that the Israeli military planted, and turn over prisoners that have not been tried or convicted.

Israel is out of control. Boycottisraeligoods.com

Buy, buy and buy. For every dollar you don't spend, I'll do my best to double what I already spend. That will be an increase for sure.

#94 uncledad. After the Un gave its support to the state of Israel in 1947, Israel has basically done everything to undermine the UN. Israel has basically ignored all Un resolutions that applied to them. Even though they finally left Lebanon in 2000 after occupying for 22 years, they continued to fly into Lebanese airspace, into their territorial waters and went in and kidnapped Lebanese prisoners.

And then Israel has the nerve to selectively bring up Un resolutions that apply to others. The whole world is witness to this ongoing hypocrisy and contradictions.

Israel has done everything they possibly could to undermine the U.N. along with the veto power of the U.s.

Please, Kathleen. Answer this question for me. Where is the country of Hezbollah and who is their elected leader?

Same goes with the country of Hamas and Palestine. Neither of the three exist. Do any of them have representation in the U.N. other than their sympathizers. Not!

Associated Press, "Europe sweltering in record heat wave". 97.7 F south of London, highest temperature ever recorded in England in July.

And next year?

Kathleen, Google Maps are a good source. I can't find them. Please let me know where you found the following countries..Hezbollah, Hamas and Palestine. And please link it, don't post the world map.

I see more senior citizens dying from heat as they did a few years back while their caretakers take their annual month long vacation and leave them without care. Europeans are not big on air conditioning or refrigeration. What is new? It is summertime. I bet it will be cold in winter. Spring and fall are always a toss up. I think that has been going on for some time now. Kinda like, forever!

What a cruel thing is war: to separate and destroy families and friends, and mar the purest joys and happiness God has granted us in this world; to fill our hearts with hatred instead of love for our neighbors, and to devastate the fair face of this beautiful world: Robert E. Lee, letter to his wife, 1864

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Never think that war, no matter how necessary, nor how justified, is not a crime: Ernest Hemingway

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If we let people see that kind of thing, there would never again be any war: Pentagon official explaining why the U.S. military censored graphic footage from the Gulf War

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" Whenever a people... entrust the defence of their country to a regular, standing army, composed of mercenaries, the power of that country will remain under the direction of the most wealthy citizens.": A Framer

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Thanks ICH Newsletter!

Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman punctuated the day with a speech to Christians United for Israel last night, declaring that "today, we are all Israelis."
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is today bring your own israeli day or what?

If man "A" & his friends, come into man "B" & his family's yard, and kidnap next door neighbor man "C's" children, then starts throwing grenades into man "C's" yard ... man "B" & his family should stop man "A" & his friends or die trying to stop "A" & his friends. If not, neighbor man "C" and his children are obligated to kill man "A" & his friends and man "B" & his family, because "A" started it ... and "B" is helping man "A" by allowing it to happen from his yard.

BOYCOTTISRAELIGOODS.ORG

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Disclaimer: This message was brought to you by the Elect a Clinton President Committee – not associated with Hillary Clinton, Chelsea Clinton, or George Clinton of the P-Funk Allstars.

What is even funnier is that most of you would vote for him.

Did'nt JFK declare himself to be a Berliner? What the heck is your point?

The child lies like a rag doll - a symbol of the latest Lebanon war
By Robert Fisk in Beirut
Published: 20 July 2006
How soon must we use the words "war crime"? How many children must be scattered in the rubble of Israeli air attacks before we reject the obscene phrase "collateral damage" and start talking about prosecution for crimes against humanity?

The child whose dead body lies like a rag doll beside the cars which were supposedly taking her and her family to safety is a symbol of the latest Lebanon war; she was hurled from the vehicle in which she and her family were travelling in southern Lebanon as they fled their village - on Israel's own instructions. Because her parents were apparently killed in the same Israeli air attack, her name is still unknown. Not an unknown warrior, but an unknown child.

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I'm waiting on that map Kathleen. I know you wouldn't post something like that without being able to back it up. Or may I do. When the aforementioned have a country and elected leaders, they may deserve some credibility. Until then, they are terrorists and nothing more. Why you think they deserve to be recognized is beyond reason.

Kathleen
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It really hurts me to say this, but, "once again, Kathleen, you have proven yourself to be a bigger moron than, well, than ANYONE".

I bet you also blame the rape victims rather than the rapist.

Oh what a fool you are.

And up next, Robert Fisk's obit. Hanging out with the terrorists are we? Oh well.

"If one speaks or acts with a cruel mind, misery follows, as the cart follows the horse... If one speaks or acts with a pure mind, happiness follows, as a shadow follows its source." ~ the Dhammapada

"Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength." ~ Eric Hoffer (1902 - 1983)

Fortune cookies? What has that have to do with this discussion? You need some medication. Call the White House. The government may fill your prescription about 6 months from now, if you are lucky.

Will Aipac be successful at having this case dismissed?

AIPAC was pressured to cut off
embattled analysts, motion charges
By Ron Kampeas
July 19, 2006
WASHINGTON, July 19 (JTA) —†A motion to dismiss a classified information case against two former pro-Israel lobbyists alleges that federal prosecutors pressured the American Israel Public Affairs Committee into firing its employees and cutting off their legal fees and health benefits.
The motion filed Tuesday says the prosecutors made the firing of Steve Rosen, AIPAC’≥ former foreign policy director, and Keith Weissman, its former Iran analyst, a condition of dropping an investigation of AIPAC itself.

The motion marks the first time it has been revealed in an unsealed court document that the organization was ever the subject of an investigation.

Prosecutors did not return requests for comment. A spokesman for AIPAC said the motion was ҳelectiveӠand a ҳignificant

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Thank you, Kathleen. I have my answer. You are persona non grata as far as I am concerned. Hezbollah demands are reasonable? Get real.

"If you judge people, you have no time to love them." ~ Mother Teresa (1910 - 1997)

"It is unwise to be too sure of one's own wisdom. It is healthy to be reminded that the strongest might weaken and the wisest might err." ~ Mahatma Gandhi

"If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things." ~ Rene Descartes (1596 - 1650)

"Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd." ~ Voltaire (1694 - 1778)

capt,

Thank you for noticing that I was speaking with a pure mind, being as kind as humanly possible to Kathleen. I am sure you are right that happiness will follow me, as a shadow follows its source." It is always hard for me to criticize the retarded like Kathleen, however, sometimes it is not only necessary, but the kindest thing to do.

Did she say that while she was still alive? I find it to be truer that you first judge people based on your experience with them and then decide whether you love them or not. That comment is largely idiotic as we all judge others based on our experience with that person. Everybody on this site judges others without meeting them, save a few, and that is only human nature. Are you trying to say you really love me capt?

Calling someone a moron is not a debate it is a personal attack, a petty one at that.

I am sure that is the best you have to offer. No reason to be very proud or so full of yourself.

But what do I know?

capt

Not much, from what I have seen. 90% of your posts are copy/paste/link and thanks to ICH. Nothing original, nothing gained. Just another post to scroll past.

Kathleen, love your posts. It's such a shame that we don't have a president or the clout in the world to try to stop this insanity. It's hard to believe that anyone could be for the death and destruction of this war. And it will come back to Americans, our turn is coming. Dennis Kucinich has a resolution in congress to ask Bush to ask for a cease fire.

If this blog is any indication, it's no wonder that we're "f**ked in the drive-thru."

Dennis Kucinich is the biggest joke of a politician I have seen come along for some time. I bet his resolution, if it actually will be brought up for a vote, will be voted down big time. What a waste of critical space on this planet.

If man "A" & his friends, come into man "B" & his family's yard, and kidnap next door neighbor man "C's" children, then starts throwing grenades into man "C's" yard ... man "B" & his family should stop man "A" & his friends or die trying to stop "A" & his friends. If not, neighbor man "C" and his children are obligated to kill man "A" & his friends and man "B" & his family, because "A" started it ... and "B" is helping man "A" by allowing it to happen from his yard.

AMEN, NO BETTER WAY TO PUT IT.

capt,

It is not a personal attack when it is the truth, and if you are honest, you must agree, Kathleen is a moron.

What will Miss Condi do to ensure this lasting value she speaks of? Considering the busheviks have done nothing of value in the last 5 1/2 years of failure, one wonders what she could possibly have up her sleeve.

When bush so unceremoniously declared at G-8, through a mouthful of leavened bread, "What they need to do it to get Syria to get Hezbollah to stop doing this shit," he showed the world that he didn't get it.

But, over an 18-year span Israel failed to defeat and disarm Hezbollah, but now they hold Lebanon, a weak government at best, responsible for doing so? Obviously, they don't get it either.

The lunatics are in charge of the asylum. The U.S. ship of state is rudderless. There is no effective leadership in the U.S. World leaders - sans bush -- are probably on the horn, even as I type this, wondering "how do you solve a problem like George?"

Lay's legacy: Commoditize everything

The following commentary by FTCR President Jamie Court was broadcast on the Marketplace NPR radio program on Friday, July 7th, 2006

Listen to the audio of the commentary HERE

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For three decades, Lay crusaded to turn the public electricity grid over to private traders. The traders managed traffic and charged tolls.

Ripped-off grandmothers in California paid the price for Enron traders' greed.

But we still haven't learned.

Despite California's evidence of gross market manipulation, the push for electricity deregulation isn't dead yet in America.

Ken Lay's spirit will be with us until Americans decide that there are some resources too precious to be put up for sale to the highest bidder.

More HERE

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That is nothing compared to the Bush legacy. Heck it is just one facet of the crimes that this WH has done and still does. No small wonder Ceney wants to keep secret the energy task force, ripping off grandma's is not a very nice sounding plan.

Profitable but not very nice.

capt

"he didn't get it"

No kidding!

He is an embarrassment. Worse by the day.

capt

I was not long ago that you could blog through in the evening here on DavidCorn.Com without constant troll posts full of contempt and name-calling.

It appears many regulars have chosen not to blog here while the trolls put a pall on political discussion. Rather that issues, it's you, he, she it are cowards or morons... Kathleen is a moron? Really.

I say yellow cards all around. Let's get this blog back on course where differences of opinion doesn't mean a lack of respect and name-calling is a thing of the past.

BREWSTER-JENNING AND ASSOCIATES 1985 - 1989" FORGERY

July 19, 2006 -- The discredited story about a "Jean Edwards," a Washington, DC lawyer and purported resident of Jamaica, who listed "Brewster-Jenning and Associates" [sic] as her employer from 1985 to 1989 on an on-line resume posted on the Akerman Senterfitt law firm's web site, is once again being circulated on the Internet. The story about Edwards and her attendance at various nuclear technology conferences after she supposedly left Brewster Jennings in 1989 and became a "CIA Case Officer," also listed on her resume, was circulated by a Carolyn Kuhn during last March's America Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) conference in Washington, DC. At the same time, another phony story was circulated that a "Robert Ellman" also listed Brewster Jennings as his employer on an on-resume. The salting of "Brewster Jennings" in the two on-line resumes was such a sloppy disinformation campaign, Edwards' resume had the firm listed as "Brewster-Jenning." Misspellings are common indicators of on-line forgeries since the programmer perpetrators of such computer hacks are often poor English-speakers from Russia, Ukraine, and Eastern Europe.

More HERE

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Seems like Rove has been busy with the games. I am sure he is just warming up.

capt

Pope Supports G-8 on Middle East Crisis
Requests That All Believers Pray for Peace

INTROD, Italy, JULY 19, 2006 (Zenit.org).- Benedict XVI supported the communiqu? of the G-8 on putting an end to violence in the Middle East, and asked all believers to pray for peace.

This Tuesday, on his return from a visit to the convent on the Great Saint Bernard mountain in the Alps, unexpectedly, the Holy Father responded to questions from journalists that awaited him near the chalet in which he is residing.

One of the reporters asked him: "What must the international community do in this increasingly tragic situation?"

The Pope responded: "I am in complete agreement with the communiqu? of the G-8. I think it indicates the path."

"I have nothing to add, other than to recall the importance of prayer so that God will help us and grant us peace," added the Pontiff, as reported by Salvatore Mazza, special envoy of the Italian newspaper Avvenire.

The statement, approved on July 16 by the G-8 leaders, gathered in St. Petersburg, Russia, appeals to Israel, to the Palestinians and to the Hezbollah militia to suspend their armed operations and release the captured soldiers and detained Palestinian ministers and parliamentarians.

On Sunday, when praying the Angelus in Les Combes, the village where he is spending these days of rest, the Holy Father said that "at the origin of these cruel oppositions there are, sadly, objective situations of violation of law and justice."

"But neither terrorist acts nor reprisals, above all when there are tragic consequences for the civilian population, can be justified," he said. "On such paths -- as bitter experience demonstrates -- one does not arrive at positive results."

American Soldiers

2,876 American soldiers have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan for Bush and his lies.

18,500+ American soldiers have been maimed in Iraq and Afghanistan for Bush and his evil lies.

55,000+ of the 140,000 American soldiers are suffering from PTSD. Stress disorder has increased and the percentage is now around 40%.

Over 350,000+ Iraqis have been killed in Iraq since Bush declared shock and awe bombings on March 19, 2003.

Contamination from depleted uranium may have affected 125,000+ American soldiers and several million Iraqis.

Are you feeling more safe and secure with Bush in the WH and Cheney as his chief hatchet man overseeing Nazi America and her citizens?

Our military men and women are used as cannon fodder for a terrorist Nazi American government.

Our enemies are innovative and resourceful and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, AND NEITHER DO WE. George W. Bush, August 5, 2005

Rigged elections doom American democracy. American soldiers are being killed and maimed TO PROMOTE A NAZI AMERICAN STATE.

Henry Kissinger says that military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.

Nazi America is a mirror image of Hitler Bush.

Nazi Americans continually justify sin.

Nazi Americans are accomplices with Bush for his murders and war crimes.

These are five great articles to read on antiwar.com, July 20, 2006!

Today's Highlights
What a Fine Mess: Charles Pe?a
Olmert's Folly?: Brian M. Downing
Enrich Iranians, Not Uranium: Roger Howard
Instigating a Wider War: Paul Craig Roberts
No, We're Not 'All Israelis Now': Peter J. Lynch

Psalm 81:1

Sing aloud unto God our strength: make a joyful noise unto the God of Jacob.

The growing threat of right-wing Christians

A great, great interview and article!!!!!

The Smirking Chimp website has many great articles for July 20, 2006.

Proverbs 4:20-21

My son, attend to my words: incline thine ear unto my sayings. Let them not depart from thine eyes: keep them in the midst of thine heart.

It is bedtime.

Seems pretty obvious what Lebanese civilians need to do to save their hides from the Israeli onslaught: Steal some embryos, preferably American embryos, and use them as human embryonic shields.

Apparently that's the only "innocent life" Rev. Dubya thinks is worth saving.

Gates Foundation Donates $287 Million for AIDS Research

The grants aim to develop collaborative vaccine efforts involving many labs and nations

The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation announced Wednesday a $287-million donation to fund AIDS vaccine research and establish an international network focused on vaccine development.

The main goal of the 16 grants is to shift the development process from independent efforts in separate laboratories to large-scale collaborative efforts involving many labs and countries.

"Traditional ways of making vaccines, which have worked well against other diseases, have largely failed for HIV," said Dr. Giuseppe Pantaleo of the Vaudois University Hospital Center in Lausanne, Switzerland, one of the grantees. "Success will require bold new scientific approaches."

Eleven of the grants, totaling $195 million, are for multinational projects to improve the ability of potential vaccines to stimulate the two kinds of immunity: The first would elicit antibodies that attack HIV; the second would stimulate a cellular response that destroys infected cells before viruses reproduce.

More HERE

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Wow, this push for a new mission is going to make a difference. If the money can makes the difference the Gates foundation might be more famous to future history for the millions of lives he saved, his software exploits a footnote.

Imagine what could have been done with $300 billion?

capt

Wasn't Hezbollah formed in 1982 in reaction to Israel's invasion of Lebanon? Violence only begets violence. Always has, always will.

Are they seriously telling us that they are going to kill every single Hezbollah fighter? & in the process, are they not creating 3 terrorists for every 1 they kill, by way of 'collateral damage'?

Everyone can see that when Hezbollah fire rockets into Israel, they are escalating the conflict. But when Israel bombs indiscriminately, killing MORE innocent civilians, it's not considered a foolish escalation of the violence. Surely one can hazard a guess as to the end result: More violence.

But of course to state the obvious is to be shouted down about 'asking Israel to just accept rocket attacks' (as I heard Brit Hume say on FoxNews today). Looks like there are fanatics on both sides of the debate. & no rational discussion of any other solutions.

Cover-Up Exposed?

By Dan Froomkin
Special to washingtonpost.com
Wednesday, July 19, 2006; 1:00 PM

Amid all the other news yesterday, the attorney general's startling revelation that President Bush personally blocked a Justice Department investigation into the administration's controversial secret domestic spying programs hasn't gotten the attention it deserves.

Bush's action is also another example of what I have previously noted is a consistent White House modus operandi: That time and time again, Bush and his aides have selectively leaked or declassified secret intelligence findings that served their political agenda -- while aggressively asserting the need to keep secret the information that would tend to discredit them.

Charlie Savage writes in the Boston Globe that "Gonzales defended the president's practice of issuing 'signing statements' to reserve the right to bypass laws he considers unconstitutional. Bush has issued signing statements to challenge more than 750 laws, a figure cited in a series of Globe stories.

"Gonzales testified that the Globe had retracted the figure. The news paper has not retracted any stories or figures on Bush's signing statements. The paper corrected an editing error in one follow-up story that referred to Bush challenging 750 'bills' instead of laws; a single bill often includes many separate laws.

"As of last week, Bush's signing statements covered 807 laws, according to Christopher Kelley, a government professor at Miami University of Ohio who has studied presidents' use of signing statements through history."

Is It Murder?

Here are Tony Snow's strong words at yesterday's press briefing: "The President believes strongly that for the purpose of research it's inappropriate for the federal government to finance something that many people consider murder; he's one of them. . . .

"The simple answer is he thinks murder is wrong. . . .

"[T]he President is not going to get on the slippery slope of taking something that is living and making it dead for the purpose of research."

And yet, Snow notes: "There is nothing that makes embryonic stem cell research illegal; it simply says that the federal government will not finance it. As you know, there are ongoing efforts in some states, including, I think, California and Massachusetts, to use state money for it, and I daresay if people think that there's a market for it, they're going to support it handsomely."

How do you reconcile those two positions?

Foreign Policy Watch

Marc Sandalow writes in the San Francisco Chronicle that "there is wide agreement that more than three years after attacking Iraq, the administration's mission to build a democracy that would foster stability -- the most often cited reason to go to war after ridding Hussein of his weapons of mass destruction -- is a long way from being accomplished. . . .

"According to Hisham Milhem, Washington correspondent for the Lebanese paper Al-Nahar, there is a sense that 'America's moment in the Middle East has come to an end, or to be specific, George Bush's moment in the Middle East is over . . . and that the Americans are drowning in Iraq's quicksand, that the American project, the drive to spread democracy in the Middle East, has reached a dead end.' "

Over at NiemanWatchdog.org, I interview a Syrian expert, professor Joshua Landis at Oklahoma University, who wonders what has happened to our commitment to Lebanon and democratic government.

According to Landis, "The Bush administration has two parallel policies: Bomb terrorists and encourage democracy in the Middle East."

In this case they were mutually exclusive in the short run. But rather than have patience and make some sacrifices -- rather than calling off Israel and calling up Damascus -- the U.S. sacrificed the Lebanese government, its greatest democratic success so far.

Says Landis: "It sends a clear message to every Arab reformer and every Arab politician who's thinking of allying with the United States and going out on a limb in order to push reform. And that message is: Don't count on the United States."

Sitting Back

Robin Wright and Thomas E. Ricks write in The Washington Post: "In blunt language, President Bush yesterday endorsed Israel's campaign to cripple or eliminate Hezbollah, charged that Syria is trying to reassert control of Lebanon, and called for the isolation of Iran. . . .

"For now, the administration is letting Israel's military strategy to weaken Hezbollah and its Syrian and Iranian backers play out."

At a brief press availability, Bush was asked if he was comfortable this going on for weeks. He wouldn't answer. "I want the world to address the root causes of the problem, and the root cause of the problem is Hezbollah."

Bush once again misrepresented a recent statement by the G-8 leaders. As many times as he says his fellow leaders agreed that the root cause of the current crisis is terrorists, the official statement says that "The root cause of the problems in the region is the absence of a comprehensive Middle East peace."

Maureen Dowd Watch

Maureen Dowd writes in her New York Times opinion column (subscription required): "The president has enshrined his immaturity and insularity, turning every environment he inhabits -- no matter how decorous or serious -- into a comfortable frat house.

"No matter what the trappings or the ceremonies require of the leader of the free world, he brings the same DKE bearing and cadences, the same insouciance and smart-alecky attitude, the same simplistic approach -- swearing, swaggering, talking to Tony Blair with his mouth full of buttered roll, and giving a startled Angela Merkel an impromptu shoulder rub. He can make even a global summit meeting seem like a kegger. . . .

"Catching W. off-guard, the really weird thing is his sense of victimization. He's strangely resentful about the actual core of his job. Even after the debacles of Iraq and Katrina, he continues to treat the presidency as a colossal interference with his desire to mountain bike and clear brush."

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I served with the UN forces in South Lebanon 25 years ago. Today, my heart is bleeding for the people I learned to know during my service period of six months in 1981. I was watching Condo Rice when she made her anouncement on TV. My immidiate respons was anger, but then I thought: What else can you expect from the White House, whitch is so full of cynisism?
My sympathy is neither with Hezbollah or Israel, but with the Lebanese people, who once again has to go through ordeals like we now witness.
Israels achivement in short terms might be that they destroy parts of Hesbollah, but the tragic part is that the result will be that ten thousands of arabs will join the Hesbollah in the future. The tragedy we now witness will create a whole generation of new recruits to this organization, witch only goal is to erase Israel from the face of the Earth. If nothing is being done by the international comunity right now, I am afraid we will be facing a future with ongoing struggle in the Middle East for years and years to come.

178 is nonesense post (no words) with hundreds of hyperlinks that ought to be deleted . . . if you got a minute. thx

DeWine blunder adds fuel to controversial Sept. 11 ad

The controversial video of the burning World Trade Center towers in a television campaign ad for Ohio Sen. Mike DeWine is doctored, U.S. News has learned. The television spot, which has been lambasted by critics as a political exploitation of the Sept. 11, attacks Democrat challenger Rep. Sherrod Brown for being weak on national security.

On the air in major Ohio markets since last Friday, the ad shows the towers, with the south building billowing smoke, which gradually drifts upward. In the video, the north tower, which was struck first on September 11, is undamaged.

"This particular image is impossible," says W. Gene Corley, a stuctural engineer who led FEMA's building performance study on the World Trade Center after the 9/11 attacks. Corley reviewed the ad at www.brownvotes.com for U.S. News. "The north tower was hit first [so] the south tower could not be burning without the North Tower burning." Corley also says, "the smoke is all wrong." The day of the attacks, the plumes of ash were drifting to the southeast. "The smoke on 9/11 was never in a halo like that," Corley says.

DeWine's office acknowledged the error. "The Senator was unaware that the image of the towers was a graphic representation and has instructed the campaign to replace the footage with a picture of the Twin Towers," his office said in a statement on Wednesday evening.

DeWine spokesman Brian Seitchik says the image of the burning towers in the ad is a still photo with computer-generated smoke added.

More HERE

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I think it shows how much the politicians are looking back and not forward. If it serves their purpose they will play the "fear" card. That is a sad commentary.

capt

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win." Mahatma Gandhi.

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Sometimes little snippets just floor me! In a WaPo article this a.m.:

"...Rice is now expected to travel to the Middle East as soon as this weekend, but with a limited listening mission in Israel and Egypt."

Limited listening? That's rich. The BUSHEVIKS never listen!

Capt. Sherrod Browns voting record is incredible. He has been a solid supporter of the working class, equity in education, access to a higher education, national health care, and raising the minimum wage.

He has a real fight on his hands, not because Dewine has a lot of support from the people of Ohio, because he has access to a lot of money, and I am sure Rove will be working on his campaign.

THE AMERICAN PUBLIC NEEDS TO REMEMBER THAT THE ATTACKS ON 9/11 HAPPENNED UNDER THE BUSH AND REPUBLICAN WATCH.

It's the water stupid.

The developmental circle

After 1948 Israel was, due to its growing military power, able to annex more and more territories. Despite the already mentioned ideological background, Israel thought strategically and practically.A greater territory promised more access to water, which again allowed Jewish farmers to produce better and larger crops. Increased agricultural production resulted in a higher capacity for absorption of Jewish immigrants to Palestine. And Palestinian farmers, who could not keep up with the more advanced Israeli production, ended up in bankruptcy and "had no other choice than sell their land to always-ready-to-buy- Zionists" (Sabbagh, p. 507).
The foundation of this strategy is not only the acquisition of land, which was solvable through military dominance, but also the availability of water. Without it, the developmental circle was at stake. This explains why.

Since 1948 and particularly after 1967 Israel had confiscated and controlled most of the Arab lands and water resources under the title of "security reasons" or "security needs". Mr. Y. Shamir, Prime Minister of Israel in 1990, summarized this policy in the sentence: "Great Aliya (immigration) needs great Israel." This means that great immigration needs all water resources in the occupied territories to still be under the control of Israel. On the same principle "Aliya" in the future needs new water resources and new lands, otherwise Israel will be in a water crisis!" (Sabbagh 513)

Because of their dependency on agriculture and increasing population, Middle Eastern countries were then obsessed with ensuring their water supply (Soffer, p. 3). On the one hand, in the case of Israel, it was the National Water Carrier (NWC), a project that was meant to transfer water from the Jordan through Israel to the Negev Desert, which faced severe opposition by the Arab countries. On the other hand, the Arabs met under the leadership of Egyptian President Jamal Abdul Nasser in January 1964 and planned deriving of Jordan River branches(Sabbagh, p. 511). Although the Arabs with their proposal stuck to their granted proportion of 125 million cubic meters (according to the Johnston plan from the 1950s), Israel considered the project a threat to its national security and decided to impede it by all means.

Lebanon is a water-rich country in the Arab world. Although it has not implemented major development and infra structure plans - especially in the South - it does not face the same water scarcity as Syria or Israel. Lebanon is far from what is going on in for example Damascus, where the main spring dried up in July 2001 and the capital of Syria is now left with no more than four hours of water every day. And Israel, according to Dr. Majzoub, has used up its groundwater sources completly. Israel drilled so deep and pumped water from such great depth that the springs will never replenish again. Israel now relies on surface water, water coming from outside the country and desalination of sea water only.

The dependency of Israel on water has been emphasized before. Nonetheless, it is vital to keep in mind the general situation: from the very beginning on Israel was longing for a secure water supply. In March 2001, this was highlighted again by the Wazzani incident near the Hasbani at the Lebanese-Israeli border. The Financial Times talked already about a looming `water war? (March 16) when Lebanese villages began pumping water out of the Hasbani. Avigdor Lieberman, Israel?s minister for infra structure, accused Lebanon to take water needed for settlements near the border and threatened Lebanon with the prospect of military action. I later had the chance to see on the footage from the Associated Press Television News in Beirut that the pipe used by the Lebanese village has a 4-inch diameter. Timor Goksel knew about this, too, and dismissed Israel?s arguments: Irael appears to be having a water crisis because people are worried they will not have enough water for their swimming pools(Financial Times). In addition, Goksel stated that Israel had been informed of the projects several weeks before (The Daily Star; July 27, 2001).
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Israel has used up it's water supply and will now take what it wants from Lebanon. It's as simple as that. The Litani river will belong to Israel, no matter how many innocents must die.

I was talking to a friend, who is a former Catholic priest, and he told me that he was astounded by bush's lack of moral fibre and clarity.

He said that bush's morality does not conform to right human conduct. He said that bush does not seem to understand "morality" because he pegs the life and moral status of an embryo on who is paying for the research.

My friend said he wishes more people would see bush for what he is.

Syria's Golan Heights is essential for Israel's residents to fill up their swimming pools in the desert.

Israel in Lebanon: Pushing Out Arabs
Wednesday July 19th 2006, 8:24 am

Kurt Nimmo

Lebanese PM Fuad Siniora says Israel's premeditated attack will push Lebanon back 50 years. I believe Mr. Siniora has underestimated the attacks will push Lebanon back more than a hundred years to a time before electricity, modern plumbing, water and sewage treatment.

Lebanon will suffer the fate of Iraq and will likely see a repeat of its bloody civil war, as planned, as will eventually other Arab and Muslim nations, most notably and immediately Syria, later Iran, and anybody else standing in the way of Greater Israel.

The concept of Greater Israel is not an anti-semitic contrivance, but a well-established fact. For the Likudites, it includes the West Bank and Gaza, and for the Betar and Revisionist Zionist fascists it encompasses all of Palestine, Jordan, the Sinai, and part of Syria.

However, in 1918, Ben-Gurion described the boundaries of Israel as follows:

to the north, the Litani river [in southern Lebanon], to the northeast, the Wadi Owja, twenty miles south of Damascus; the southern border will be mobile and pushed into Sinai at least up to Wadi al-Arish; and to the east, the Syrian Desert, including the furthest edge of Transjordan.

Here is another map, submitted by the Word Zionmist Organization after World War I. Note how the Zionists have long coveted a big chunk of Lebanon, all the way to Sidon, including the long sought after Litani River. As to the latter, Laura Zittrain Eisenberg writes (from her book, My Enemy's Enemy):

Zionists suggested that if God and man had been less than precise about where the border should be, mother nature offered the Litani river as a natural frontier. Aaron Aaronsohn, a Palestinian Jew and internationally respected agronomist, surveyed the northern reaches of Palestine and concluded that the Litani river was essential for the irrigation and cultivation of the Galilee. The independent engineering firm of Fox and Partners, commissioned by the Zionist Organization to survey the economic potential of Palestine, confirmed his analysis. Its report reiterated that the northern frontier of Palestine must include the Litani, adding that while the Litani will in the future be of great benefit to Palestine, it is of no value to the territory to the north. This permitted the Zionists to argue that giving the river to Palestine was only natural and would not deprive Lebanon of any resource. In the proposals submitted to the Peace conference, however, the Zionist Organization was careful to note that with proper management, the waters in question could be made to serve in the development of the Lebanon as well as of Palestine. David Ben-Gurion expressed the same concern for the water resources of a future Jewish state and similarly concluded that its northern border should run along the Litani.

In negotiations with British colonialists, the Zionists failed to realize their desire to steal prime Lebanese real estate. The diplomacy of British prime minister David Lloyd George ultimately lost the Litani for Palestine. According to his biblical atlas, the Sykes-Picot line had been too generous to Palestine in the northwest, at Lebanon's expense. The ministers agreed that it was only fair to compensate by leaving the Litani totally in Lebanon.

As we now know, this defeat did not dissuade the Zionists:

Although disappointed at losing a critical natural resource for the Jewish homeland, Zionist thinkers did not dwell on establishing a physical presence in Lebanon. If they could not possess the Litani, perhaps they could find a Lebanese partner with whom to exploit the river's resources for the mutual development of northern Palestine and Lebanon.

Or possibly invade the country all the while claiming to eliminate a terrorist threat and thus steal the river under false pretense.

In the 1950s, Israeli Prime Minister Moshe Sharett recorded in his diaries that Moshe Dayan's plan for the control of the Litani River was to enter Lebanon, occupy the relevant territory then the territory south of the Litani will be annexed to Israel and everything will fall into place(see Ronald Bleier's Israel's Appropriation of Arab Water: An Obstacle to Peace, Middle East Labor Bulletin, Spring 1994).
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Israel is not the victim here.

The truth of the Lebonese-Israeli conflict is this water dispute. Isreal needs it and so will take it. They have been trying for over 50 years.

Bleier cites Dr. Hussein A. Amery, of the Department of Geography, Bishop's University, Quebec. Amery's analysis suggests that Israel's interest in Lebanon is long with its political goals, to maintain and/or establish control over as much of Lebanese water as possible. Amery notes that since 1985 former Defense Minister Ariel Sharon has been calling for an enlarged security zone in Lebanon that stretches to the Awali River (north of the Litani).

At the time of Amery's analysis, according to a Lebanese newspaper, Israel was in the process of establishing a larger security zone by depopulating and flattening 30 villages that border the zone, an extension of a long-running process that led directly to the formation of Hezbollah by disenfranchised and terrorized Shites in southern Lebanon.

Avraham Katz-Oz, Israel's negotiator on water, said in the 1990s, while Israel occupied southern Lebanon: the mountains do not own the water that fall on them. It's the same with Canada and the United States. It's the same all over the world. Of course, the United States has yet to invade Canada, or vice versa, over water disputes.

It should be noted that Israel does not accept the Lebanese border, so crossing over it and stealing land (or bombing for that matter) is not an issue for the Israelis.

The Declaration of the State of Israel on 14 May 1948 did not identify the borders of the state, writes Nizar Sakhnini. The Zionist leadership was hoping for territorial expansion in the future whenever an opportunity may be seized. Such an opportunity came during the Suez Canal crisis in 1956. Israeli intentions and designs for Lebanon and the whole area were clearly specified in their meeting with the French at the Svres Conference in 1956. In that conference, Ben-Gurion proposed a plan for settling all the issues in the Middle East. His proposals for Lebanon included annexing southern Lebanon up to the Litani River. The adamant stand of Eisenhower prevented Ben-Gurion plans from being realized. This did not stop the Zionist leadership from keeping its plans alive waiting for a new opportunity.

Bush is no Eisenhower and Congress is snugly in the pocket of AIPAC. Our Congress critters, essentially little more than bought and paid for whores, are turning somersaults to defend Israel's aggression.

Both chambers of the US congress were working on drafts of resolutions expressing support for Israel in its war against the Hizbullah. The House of Representatives was expected to vote Wednesday on their version of the resolution, which is sponsored by majority leader John Boehner (R-OH) and minority leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), reports the neocon-infested Jerusalem Post. several lawmakers expressed reservations over the pro-Israeli lean of the resolution, but most of both Republican and Democratic members of Congress are showing support for the resolution The resolution was sponsored by Senate majority leader Bill Frist (R-TN) and minority leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and was approved by unanimous consent.

In an article critical of the cheerleader role of the corporate media in Israel's invasion of Lebanon, Kazinform, a news website in Kazakhstan, writes: In American reporter once reminded me that we cannot blame the American people for their limited, one-sided understanding of what is happening in the Middle East. It is the American media that must be chastised for its disproportionateness.

True enough, although millions of Americans, intellectually lazy and incurious, have not bothered to research the real reasons behind Israel's murderous invasion of Lebanon.

Hezbollah has to be eliminated because it stands between Israel and not only the Litani River, but also represents a vexatious kink in the entire Zionist Master Plan for the Middle East. Hezbollah and Hamas must be liquidated. However, as the Israelis understand, this will not be an easy process, as the more Arabs killed by Israelis, the more people either join the resistance outright or support it at arm's length.

In 1948, Irgun Zwei Leumi and other Zionist terrorist groups conducted the Deir Yassin massacre and other atrocities in an effort to push Palestinians off the land. More than 300,000 inhabitants were evicted from their homes and the emerging state of Israel snapped up the land, declaring no right of return for Palestinians.

Now, in Lebanon, Israel is attempting to repeat this brutal process, bombing southern Lebanon to push the residents out so they can set up a security zone, or water and natural resource thievery zone.

Only Hezbollah stands in the way.

Redalert, you hit the nail on the head! I was thinking last night, Hizbolla is Israels boogeyman as Al Queda is ours. Convenient to have a boogeyman to blame is'nt it? Both Iraq and Lebanese battles are about natural resources, taking by force what cannot be obtained through normal channels.

The reality is natural resources are at a premium and those controlling what is left will be able to exact supreme power over those needing the resources. The countries willing to pay the resource pirates will win while the others will lose.

It has been known as the PNAC plan for a dessimation of the worlds population and endless wars will accomplish their goal.

We have relingquished our control of the government to a neocon agenda that is bent on world control and domination without regard to human life.

How do you fight that?

Red, Do you have a link you can share to post 189?

Homosexuality and So Forth

Dear Cornposters:

I want to share with you some information that I heard from Father Groeschel. Father Groeschel is heard on EWTN, a Catholic television station. He speaks live on Sunday evenings at 7:00 PM. Father Groeschel gave a talk on homosexuality. What brought back this issue to mind was an article that I read on the intolerant right-wing Christians. These Christians hate gays and lesbians.

Father Groeschel said that we need to separate homosexuality from gay and lesbian lifestyles. Homosexuality is an experience where men and women choose not marry someone of the opposite sex. They prefer to live with someone of the same sex for a variety of reasons. These people do not engage in sexual activities. The relationship is one of friendship. Just because people choose to live with someone of the same sex does not mean they are engaging in certain activities. Gay and lesbian lifestyles are involved in sexual activities and that lifestyle separates homosexuality from the gay and lesbian lifestyles.

If we kill and maim gays and lesbians, we are not saintly people. It is for God to do the judgment and the punishment should there be punishment. We are not judge and jury. Whether or not you approve of this behavior, you should not harm another human being.

IF YOU JUDGE PEOPLE, YOU HAVE NO TIME TO LOVE THEM. Mother Teresa (1910-1997)

I have frequently said that I am a sinner. Some of you may have been involved with community theatre. I have never been involved on the acting level but there are things to do behind the scenes.

I recall that props were to be painted. The three props were white and they were to be painted blue. With blue flair pens a person had a chance to write down their sins before painting the props. On one prop there were sins of commission. Sins of commission are sins that we readily admit we are committing. Sins of omission are sins that we suppress because we do not want to admit that we could do more to make our world a better place. Two props had sins of omission.

I do not want to judge someone else because I have all these sins and who am I to judge another person?

Let me share with you a grave and mortal sin that damns the soul for all eternity. This sin deals the Fifth Commandment. Thou shall not kill. People believe that since you have not killed someone directly with a gun or a knife, you are not guilty of breaking the Fifth Commandment. That is totally false. You do sin against the Fifth Commandment when you accept the killing of Iraqi and Lebanese people. When you accept the idea that the mission in Lebanon needs another week to inflict a deathblow to the terrorists or some other group of people. Wishful thoughts of killing another human being are mortal sins and the sins separate you from God for all eternity. Your soul is damned. Once you are in hell upon your death, you can never leave.

Sincerely,

Gerald

The Valerie Plame lawsuit: Keep conspiracy alive!
Byron York
July 20, 2006

In May, former CIA employee Valerie Plame, the woman at the heart of the CIA leak investigation, agreed to write her memoirs for Crown Publishing for a reported $2.5 million.

The book was scheduled to come out in fall 2007 and was to be titled Fair Game.

Everything seemed set. And then the deal fell through. A Crown spokesman told The New York Times that the company and Plame had a difference of opinion on some of the contract terms. Nobody offered any details.

Weeks later, in mid-July, Plame reached another agreement with another publisher, Simon & Schuster. This deal was said to be in the seven-figure range, but it's not clear whether it is more or less than what Plame was going to receive from Crown.

Don't bet on more. From all appearances, the value of Plame's story is falling, not rising.

One June 13, after Plame lost the deal with Crown and before she had a deal with Simon & Schuster, word got out that CIA leak prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald had decided not to indict Karl Rove. That decision dealt a major blow to the premise of the proposed book: that Plame was the target of a nefarious conspiracy that reached to the very highest levels of the U.S. government, a conspiracy to reveal her CIA status as punishment for her husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, for his criticism of the Bush case for the Iraq war.

To keep interest in the CIA leak case alive, Plame and Wilson need to push the nefarious conspiracy theory. But now it's becoming more and more clear that there simply was no conspiracy, nefarious or otherwise.

First, Rove wasn’¥ indicted. And now columnist Robert Novak, who first revealed Plame's identity, has told how he learned about her.

Novak, who still refuses to identify the source who first told him about Plame, has always said that source was not a Partisan gunslinger. Novak says he was interviewing the source about a number of topics, including Joseph Wilson, who was in the news at the time.

He said: Why would they send Joe Wilson to Niger? He's not CIA? Novak told Fox News' Brit Hume recently. "He is not anybody who knows Niger that well. He served there a long time ago." At that point, according to Novak, the source said "Wilson's wife worked in the Office of Nuclear Proliferation in CIA and she suggested [Wilson] go." "And that was it?" asked Hume.

"That was it," said Novak.

Novak said he later called Rove and told him about what he had learned, and Rove said, "Oh, you know that, too." Then Novak called up the CIA and checked out Plame's status.

So the question is: What's wrong with that?

The administration sends a man on an important fact-finding mission. The man later turns out to be a vociferous public critic of the administration. And journalists, politicos and other observers ask, well, why did they pick him for the mission?

It was and is, a reasonable question.

The problem, for Plame and Wilson, is that that just doesn't support any conspiracy theories.

So what about the book? What about Joseph Wilson's speaking appearances? How to keep interest in the flagging CIA leak case alive?

Well, how about a lawsuit? Yeah, that's the ticket.

So now we have VALERIE PLAME WILSON and JOSEPH C. WILSON IV, Plaintiffs, v. I. LEWIS (a/k/a SCOOTER LIBBY JR., KARL C. ROVE, RICHARD B. CHENEY AND JOHN DOES NO. 1-10, filed recently by Mr. and Mrs. Wilson in federal court.

It charges that there was a conspiracy among current and former high-level officials in the White House "to violate the constitutional and other legal rights of Valerie Plame Wilson and her husband, Joseph C. Wilson IV." But a conspiracy to what?

Why, it was a conspiracy "to punish Mr. Wilson for his public statements regarding assertions by the President of the United States in the 2003 State of the Union address that he used to justify the war against Iraq." How?

"As their chief method of punishment, the White House officials destroyed Mrs. Wilson's cover by revealing her classified employment with the CIA to reporters prior to and after July 14, 2003, the date on which a newspaper column by Robert Novak made public that employment." Now, at this point, it is useful to consider who Novak's source might have been. He has never been identified publicly, but everyone believes he is former State Department official Richard Armitage. And one thing to know about Armitage is that he was about as far from the Cheney camp as a Bush administration official could be.

So to believe Plame and Wilson you have to believe that Armitage, acting on orders from Cheney/Rove/Libby, granted Novak an interview, maneuvered the topic to Joseph Wilson and then set the nefarious conspiracy in motion.

And if you believe that, Valerie Plame has a book she'd like to sell you.

Byron York is a White House correspondent for National Review.

#189
Red,
Thanks for the post. Very interesting. The same can be seen in the latin american countries' where the corporations are taking over the countries waters supplies and holding the populations hostage. Water, it seems, is as valuable as oil and like oil those in power are willing to kill for it.

O'Reilly,

In another high-level meeting on Lebanon in May 1954, Moshe Dayan provided a guide as to how control of Lebanon would be accomplished. According to Dayan, Israel needed only to find a Lebanese officer, "even just a Major" who would serve as a puppet and with Israel's help "create a Christian regime". Then the Israeli army will enter Lebanon [and] the territory from the Litani southward will be totally annexed to Israel and everything, The Link

Took a bit of Googling but this is an excellent read for anyone(including me) for a better understanding how we got where we are.

#179 Erling Krange, Bush is a uniter. He has united the Muslims.

#185 RedAlert, water is a resource that will be fought over in the years to come. Some American companies are processing water in countries and charging 25 cents on a dollar for the water. I thought I read that one company is Coca Cola.

O'Reilly, my posts 188 and 189 are two halves of the same article. Here is the link.

Israel in Lebanon: Pushing Out Arabs

#179
Erling,
Thank you for the post.

Human beings can live without oil, they cannot live without water. This will be the ultimate conflict in years to come.

If sex is based on sexual attraction, why is it moral for one man and one woman to have sex but immoral for two men or two women?

Why is it moral for one man and one woman to live together, support each other, raise children, and have sex and not moral for two men or two women? I mean is there a reason why our society should exert its authority to make these people outlaws, withold rights that heteerosexuals have, and treat them as deviants?

Catholocism teaches homosexual behavior is sinful. Isn;t it possible the catholic church is wrong on this issue? birth control? treating priest pedophiles as sinners to be reassigned not criminals who ought to be prosecuted? See, what I mean?

197. Thanks Red.

War Against Iraq: Converging U.S. and Israeli Agendas by Ronald Bleier Summary:

"War Against Iraq" argues that the Bush administration's war against Iraq is motivated by the twin agendas of supporting Israeli dominance in the Middle East and the Bush administration's agenda for permanent war. Highly placed hawks like Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz have for years advocated regime change in Iraq as a way of securing their militaristic program by means of advancing Israel's regional goals.

The article argues that the war against Iraq is NOT primarily a war for oil because such a war, however misguided and immoral, would have the fundamentally rational goal of securing coveted resources. Rather the war against Iraq is ideologically propelled by a messianic belief in America's mission. Similarly this is not a war in the service of imperialism which would otherwise use more circumspect, less aggressive means, but is rather a race toward world war and Armageddon.

LINK

#196
Gerald,
You are right. Coca Cola's people have been accused of violent acts to control the workers and their families. For instance, when unions try to work with the workers the union people have been assassinated. One right on the Coca Cola grounds. Coca Cola is one of the corporations who try to control the water.

Murder It's the Real Thing

BTW, I don't think Coke envisioned a time when blogs could spread the truth around. They and other corporations thought their crimes would be ignored forever by America. I use Coke products as little as possible.

And...if you don't think blogs are making a difference...ask the MN Democratic Party. The candidate for attorney general just dropped out of the race because the blog sphere found information and wouldn't let go until they got a response. The candidate was forced to deal with it and dropped out. This is healthy because it is going to force both parties and any new party to stay clean, clean up their crony behaviors and get closer to the people. Right now they're close during the election season.

Except for certain people. The state senator in my district remains very very involved. He told the people at the regional caucus I was at that he did not want to become a US Senator. He likes what he's doing for the state. I really like him. So does everybody else. He gets a lot of votes.

Since the war broke out in Israel and Lebanon, bloggers have come to DavidCorn.Com and written posts that exhibit surprise and dissatisfaction with the subject of that day's thread. What? No thread about the war, they exclaim! Blastocytes and vetoes, they question? Unbelievable, they cry!

There is no question Americans see the further spread of war violence in the middle east as a significant development with the potential for disastrous outcomes. Will the war stop with prisoner exchange? Does Israel intend to acquire and keep territory adjacent to water sources? Is the peace process, which was driven by Israelís ëretreatí from Gaza and other acquired territories to internationally accepted boarders and the end of Palestinian suicide bomber attacks over?

People are concerned about the extent of the chaos that will come of this conflict and how far the carnage will spread but above all, theyíre concerned with resolving the moral question in their minds: Who are the good guys and who are the bad guys?

Consider the possibility the situation is more complex than assigning white and black hats. Consider that each partyís aims are reasonable from their own perspective. Consider that warfare has a way of escalating and that innocent civilians on both sides will suffer the most.

Got to get to work. Salt mines, donuts all that.

#203 Jeanne, the Nazis would love to shut down the internet. We, too, try to avoid purchasing products from certain countries. I would love to buy American but what is American today?

While wars rage, critters are victims of humanitys' so called progress.

Life on earth is facing a major crisis with thousands of species threatened with imminent extinction - a global emergency demanding urgent action. This is the view of 19 of the world's most eminent biodiversity specialists, who have called on governments to establish a political framework to save the planet.

The planet is losing species faster than at any time since 65 million years ago, when the earth was hit by an enormous asteroid that wiped out thousands of animals and plants, including the dinosaurs. Scientists estimate that the current rate at which species are becoming extinct is between 100 and 1,000 times greater than the normal "background" extinction rate - and say this is all due to human activity.

LINK

The natural balance is being upset. Nobody knows what lies ahead for our species.

Israel Tells Residents to Evacuate From Southern Lebanon
_BEIRUT, July 20 -- Israel on Thursday told Lebanese residents to leave the southern sector of the country below the Litani River within 24 hours. The warning came a day after punishing airstrikes killed more than 50 people across Lebanon in the deadliest day since hostilities erupted July 12.

Some 600 people, many of them relatives of United Nations workers or U.N. staffers deemed nonessential, were being evacuated to a cruise ship off the war-ravaged city of Tyre, which lies several miles south of the Litani River. Many who remain in the port city appeared to be stranded , lacking -- with banks shuttered, gasoline scarce and bombed roadways nearly unnavigable -- the money or means to flee.
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hmmmm.....

-T
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While wars rage, critters are victims of humanitys' so called progress.

Life on earth is facing a major crisis with thousands of species threatened with imminent extinction - a global emergency demanding urgent action. This is the view of 19 of the world's most eminent biodiversity specialists, who have called on governments to establish a political framework to save the planet.

The planet is losing species faster than at any time since 65 million years ago, when the earth was hit by an enormous asteroid that wiped out thousands of animals and plants, including the dinosaurs. Scientists estimate that the current rate at which species are becoming extinct is between 100 and 1,000 times greater than the normal "background" extinction rate - and say this is all due to human activity.

LINK

The natural balance is being upset. Nobody knows what lies ahead for our species.

Ava Lowery and C&L: Civil War in Iraq

I asked Ava to produce a video for C&L. Here it is.

Video -WMP

Video -QT

I hope it's the first of many.

Check out her website.

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Another very good animations from "Peace Takes Courage"

capt

Well obviously when we (the United States) became addicted to oil and could no longer produce all the oil we needed to feed our voracious appetite, we determined that we needed to start wars related to that valuable material: OIL.

Throughout human history nations, groups, societies have fought about control over or access to materials necessary for their well-being (as they defined it). Some of the oldest wars were about river valleys and arable land and safe water sources. Wars over spices, gold, silver, furs, timber!

I wouldn't mind oil becoming so expensive that we are forced to break our addiction. Just say NO to oil. (I know, it's not that simple.)

However, what goes around, comes around. If we wean ourselves of oil, we'll find another *reason* for future wars. Unless, of course, we blow ourselves up or degrade Mother Earth even more (or both) in the meantime.

Hey what gives? I tried to post but was given a page saying "In order to curb malicious posts I could not post again right away, but it posted anyway, TWICE!

WASUPWITDAT?

Kinda screwy way of Whack-A-Troll enforcement.

O'Reilly: "[A] lot of Jewish liberals" think "terrorists ... have the right to do whatever they want," such as "behead people on camera"

On the July 18 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio program, Fox News host Bill O'Reilly claimed that there are "a lot of Jewish liberals ... who basically feel that, you know, you don't have a right to go after terrorists because it's our fault, the United States' fault." O'Reilly added: "And some say it's Israel's fault because we've been mean to them, therefore they have a right to do whatever they want -- behead people on camera, all this terrible stuff."

From the July 18 broadcast of Westwood One's The Radio Factor with Bill O'Reilly:

O'REILLY: You have a very big split in the Jewish-American community. You got a lot of Jewish liberals, a lot of Jewish far-left people, who basically feel that, you know, you don't have a right to go after terrorists because it's our fault, the United States' fault. And some say it's Israel's fault because we've been mean to them, therefore they have a right to do whatever they want -- behead people on camera, all this terrible stuff. OK? That's a far-left position.

—ì.S.M.

More HERE

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Oh my, what is this guy thinking?

capt

Red,

While I don't support posting entire articles (dial-up victim, y'know) here, your Water Story is proving to be quite precient.

Thank you for that. I'll print both and share the information with a lot of people tonight.

-T

Yup, Iraq is progressing just fine.

U.S. says attacks in Iraq up 40 percent
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraq's top Shiite cleric urged his followers Thursday to refrain from reprisal violence against Sunnis, his strongest call yet for an end to increasing sectarian bloodshed. The statement by Grand Ayatollah Ali Al-Sistani came as U.S. military officials reported a 40 percent increase in the daily average of attacks in the Baghdad area.

Den,

The message you received is usually caused by accidentally hitting post (or even preview I think) twice within one or two minutes.

I have gotten it many times. Standard stuff.

capt

RedAlert,

I am reminded of the "Ah HA!" moment from a couple Tom Clancy books where the "hero" figures out that Russia started WWIII because terrorist activity upon petrochemical facilities used up most of its available oil production capabilities and they couldn't stand the thought of someone else controlling their economy is such a big way. (Red Storm Rising)

If the root of Israel's "overreaction" to the "abduction" of two of its "soldiers" is the annexing of southern Lebanon for its water wealth, it all finally makes sense. And shows that the Likudniks are even more sinister than previously assumed.

WMR reported that the Israeli military was using poison gas on villages in south Lebanon. According to a former U.S. weapons expert who served in Iraq, the artillery shell in a photo taken in Lebanon (below) is a chemical weapon delivery device. It is being handled by an Israeli Defense Force soldier and Hebrew lettering can be clearly seen on the armored vehicle. Another chemical weapons shell of the same type can be seen lying on the ground to the right. It is not known what type of chemical is in the chemical canister, however, gas dropped by the Israelis in villages in southern Lebanon has resulted in severe vomiting among the civilian population.

Media commentators have scoffed that Israel, with its relatively unique history, would ever use chemical weapons or poison gas in any war. It is precisely because of that perception that they are using such weapons. The deniability factor prevents the media from taking seriously the credible reports of banned weapons being used by the Israelis.

This is BEYOND acceptable! Who in the international community has the GUTS to stand against these THUGS!

Oh yeah, the message sometimes stops the second click (for post) because the first one posted. That is why the post is there after getting the message. The message is about the second (usually inadvertent) click on post.

capt

Capt,

Thanks for the info!

I have posted consecutively before, just never ran into that.

The fight against malicious trolls is a worthy battle.

A link that never gets old

http://www.sweetjesusihatebilloreilly/

Ralph Nader did not mince words on the Liar-in Chief this morning in Democracy Now. Is it any wonder DN is gaining in popularity as "news of choice", as the only program to bring REAL news stories to the forefront of TV journalism.

LINK

Support The Fuel Economy Reform Act

America spends $800 million a day, or $300 billion annually, on its 20-million-barrel-a-day oil habit. Passenger vehicles alone burn 8 million gallons of oil each day. Because we import 60 percent of our oil, much of it from the Middle-East, our dependence on oil is also a national security issue. With oil prices hovering near $75 a barrel and total U.S. petroleum use estimated to increase 23 percent over the next 20 years, we must act now to prevent a future energy crisis.

The Fuel Economy Reform Act of 2006 seeks to break the decades-long logjam on increasing fuel economy standards by taking a new, more flexible approach. The bill charges the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration (NHTSA) to create regular annual increases in fuel economy with a target of 1 mile per gallon each year. This legislation flips the current debate about increasing fuel economy standards on its head, from a debate about whether standards will be raised to presumption that they will be raised.

We can't wait another 20 years, it's time to make a change.

Add my name as a supporter:

More HERE

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Everybody should support this, at least by my way of thinking.

capt

GOP Lawmakers Edge Away From Optimism on Iraq

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Faced with almost daily reports of sectarian carnage in Iraq, congressional Republicans are shifting their message on the war from speaking optimistically of progress to acknowledging the difficulty of the mission and pointing up mistakes in planning and execution.

Rep. Christopher Shays (Conn.) is using his House Government Reform subcommittee on national security to vent criticism of the White House's war strategy and new estimates of the monetary cost of the war. Rep. Gil Gutknecht (Minn.), once a strong supporter of the war, returned from Iraq this week declaring that conditions in Baghdad were far worse "than we'd been led to believe" and urging that troop withdrawals begin immediately.

And freshman Sen. John Thune (S.D.) told reporters at the National Press Club that if he were running for reelection this year, "you obviously don't embrace the president and his agenda."

"The first thing I'd do is acknowledge that there have been mistakes made," Thune said.

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By "edging away", I have to suppose they mean "Running like Grasshoppers before a Lawnmower".

-T

"Running like Grasshoppers before a Lawnmower".

GREAT visual!

HA!

capt

Daily Voting News For July 19

Blogged by John Gideon of VotersUnite.org and VoteTrustUSA.Org

Today the House Science Committee held hearings on the voluntary voting systems guidelines (VVSG). "We've seen security defects that allow a single person with insider access and some technical knowledge could switch votes, perhaps undetected, and potentially swing an election," Prof. David Wagner testified. "These problems should be weeded out by the independent testing process, but it is clear that this system isn't working." / "We're looking at every aspect of elections," said Donetta Davidson, a member of the Election Assistance Commission. "We haven't found any problems with equipment. The problems we find are human error. The more elections officials train their people, the fewer problems we will have.

"Meanwhile hearings are being held around the country to find out why machines failed and what needs to be done to fix them....

National: Lawmakers Warned About Voting Problems LINK

National: Experts tell Congress U.S. e-voting security is flawed LINK

National: Protecting The 2006 Vote LINK

More HERE

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A ton more links at the linked piece.

The so-called "lawmakers" (I think law-breakers) know darn well the problems. They will not take action before November. After the midterms it will not matter.

capt

I've stayed away for a while because it's all just so depressing. In the end, though, Gerald, at #19, you are right on target about the New World Order and neocon ideology.

I'm sure it's all been written here, I believe I did too a couple of days ago. This is just the beginning. Death and devastation has never been a concern for Bushco, it's an end.

This is all a setup. Iran is next. All for the promotion of the New World Order. Most of us saw this coming and correctly pinpointed the timing of it--mid-July. Just before the elections.

We can get into all the suffering both sides, well all sides, of this confrontation have endured. Jews suffered unspeakable crimes of humanity. That can do something to your collective psyche. I've mentioned that I took nine years of college to try to understand just how the world allowed Nazism and Facsism to simmer and explode. It goes back to the beginning of industrial capitalism. I strongly recommend, for anyone interested, a novel by Thomas Mann, Dr. Faustus. He takes the Hitler beginnings all the way back to the mid-19th century and, believe it or not, to the German middle ages.

One can shout all you want about how a sitting government allows terrorist organizations to prosper. Then turn your clocks back to the American Civil War and the treatment of Blacks and Jim Crow. Oklahoma City and homegrown terrorists. Who was the country that allowed these "terorists" to fester?

As we sit and watch Lebanon destroyed, helpless Lebanon that is, you have to search for the news coming out of Iraq. Civil war. No more labels or semantics, Iraq has fallen into the ultimate quagmire. Iraq, who could have been a bulwark against Hezbollah and Israel combined has been turned into a breeding ground of terrorism.

Tried to watch Bush speak to the NAACP. Couldn't bring myself to do it. Too much sickening, repulsive hypocrisy. The only reason he deigned to speak to them was to convince them the GOP was their party. I wouldn't have wanted to be a fly on the wall at that little event.

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The Valerie Plame lawsuit: Keep conspiracy alive!
Byron York
July 20, 2006
Posted by: O'Reilley at July 20, 2006 11:26 AM

WARNING, Spoof post! Post 193 was posted by one of our thoroughly contemptible and detestable trolls.

New Thread.

The Reckoning

The final program in a three part series on corporations discusses the question, "Should corporations be socially responsible?" The truth is that profits trump social responsibility. In 1989, corporations met to control the entire planet and its resources. Fifteen corporations want to control the entire planet. Corporations are privatizing the resources and selling it back to the people for whatever price it desires. For example one corporation privatized the water in an emerging country and the corporation demanded twenty-five percent of a persons daily wages for each day he wanted water.

Sixty-seven percent of the planet will not have fresh drinking water by 2025. Governments are powerless against corporations. In fact, corporations can overthrow governments.

Governments work with corporations to suppress dissenters. Dissenters are idealistic and corporations are realistic and the corporations are winning. Governments and corporations want to take away the people's freedoms and rights. Corporations with the help of governments are gaining more and more control over our lives. Three billion people are living in poverty. More children are being exploited as slave laborers by corporations in the emerging countries. Slavery continues in the world and in the United States of America.

193
The Valerie Plame lawsuit: Keep conspiracy alive!
Byron York
July 20, 2006
Posted by: O'Reilley at July 20, 2006 11:26 AM

WARNING, Spoof post! Post 193 was posted by one of our thoroughly contemptible and detestable trolls.

IT IS THE TRUTH, BUT, IT HAD TO COME FROM A TROLL, BECAUSE WE LIBERALS DON'T SPEAK TRUTH HERE OR ANYWHERE ELSE.

The truth dosen't hide behind other people's names. Coward's hide.