Mr. David Corn,

Great post.

I hope you are wrong about Cheney getting "off the hook" so to speak.

Thanks for all of your work!

Kirk

Yes He Would

Why might Mr. Bush want another war? For one thing, Mr. Bush, whose presidency is increasingly defined by the quagmire in Iraq, may believe that he can redeem himself with a new Mission Accomplished moment.

And it's not just Mr. Bush's legacy that's at risk. Current polls suggest that the Democrats could take one or both houses of Congress this November, acquiring the ability to launch investigations backed by subpoena power. This could blow the lid off multiple Bush administration scandals. Political analysts openly suggest that an attack on Iran offers Mr. Bush a way to head off this danger, that an appropriately timed military strike could change the domestic political dynamics.

Does this sound far-fetched? It shouldn't. Given the combination of recklessness and dishonesty Mr. Bush displayed in launching the Iraq war, why should we assume that he wouldn't do it again?

More HERE

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Sure he would. If Bush thinks it could save his bacon he will push the button. No doubt.

capt

Lucked out? This has got to be the biggest group of lucky criminals to have ever darkened DC's doorstep. But somehow I doubt if luck has anything to do with it. This will, in all likelyhood, go the way of the Iran-Contra scandal.

On today's Washingtoon Journal - C-Span.org - Senator Wyden (D) Oregon, commented that the Senate Intellegence Committee Report Phase II may come out after the break...

7 controls the media
(it says 7 jews but that's not why I posted it - I don't care about that)

13 control the banks

James, I saw that article. It was odd that they listed the 8 main banks but not the 13 families, even though they are relatively well known. Fractional reserve banking is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the world, and the poor countries are suffering the most for it, but our day is coming too, soon.

James Ha 5

We know you don't care about that! All you care about is naked Britney Spears photo's!! HA HA Ha

David twists the truth and says-Cheney gets off the hook.

Cheney never broke any laws. Fitzzy can't prove that Val "the lime light gal" was undercover.

Funny how facts seem to work against the Dems. Can't prove Bush leaked but McDermott gets slammed in court for it and it's OK because he's a liberal Demrocrat.

What a joke!!!

Prosecutor Puts Bush in the Spotlight (link)

Patrick Fitzgerald writes in a legal briefing, "It is hard to conceive of what evidence there could be that would disprove the existence of White House efforts to 'punish Wilson.' "

Bush says he approved declassifying data (link)
By William Douglas

President Bush talks about the war on terror at the Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies in Washington on Monday.

WASHINGTON -- President Bush acknowledged Monday that he authorized the selective declassification of portions of a highly classified intelligence report in an effort to rebut critics who said the White House had manipulated intelligence to justify going to war against Iraq.

The President's 'Final Jeopardy!' Question (link)
by Elizabeth de la Vega and Tom Engelhardt

. . .in other words that George had authorized Scooter to leak parts of a highly classified CIA National Intelligence Estimate to New York Times reporter Judith Miller in order to discredit former ambassador Joseph Wilson and, in effect, out his CIA agent wife, Valerie Plame. The president is well known for having stated, in relation to this increasingly bizarre and twisted case: "I don't know of anyone in my administration who has leaked. If somebody did leak classified information, I'd like to know it, and we'll take the appropriate action" and for having taken the sternest positions on the very subject of leaking. ("Leaks of classified information are bad things. We've got too much leaking in Washington. I want to know who the leakers are.")

So, cheney has lucked out and has, thus far, stayed out of Fitzgerald's legal clutches. But, will cheney's luck continue to hold? All along, it has seemed that cheney is the Big Enchilada in this case and he is counting on Libby to stay in line. Is there any chance that Fitz can get Libby to flip and testify against cheney? Probably not, but ya never know...oh, I wish!

Too bad Libby's trial is scheduled for after the November elections.

BtW, where is cheney? Did he show up at the fundraiser in Missouri yesterday for Talent (I think it was)?

I think Fitzgerald is smart to go after what can be won in this circumstance. If Fitzgerald gets a conviction it sends the strongest message to the public. Libby is guilty. This obviously will taint all those involved. If Fitzgerald loses it may be a signal to the public that the group is guilty of nothing.

The more this case is in the news the more people are picking up on the correct facts. I think Fitzgerald comes off as a much more honest and hardworking individual than the rogue elephants we have trampling our democracy.

Overview of the leak Q&A (link)
Knight Ridder Newspapers

Q. What was significant about Fitzgerald's latest federal court filing?

A. The brief indicates that Bush and Cheney authorized the selected leaks of classified information to make their case for invading Iraq.
Fitzgerald disclosed that Libby told the grand jury that Bush and Cheney authorized him to leak the key conclusions of the top-secret prewar U.S. intelligence assessment to former New York Times reporter Judith Miller on July 8, 2003. Libby was quoted in Fitzgerald's filing as saying that the White House viewed the key judgments of the October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate as being "pretty definitive" in refuting Wilson's charges that Bush had misrepresented the intelligence on Iraq's alleged pursuit of uranium in Niger.

Q. Is that correct?

A. No. The NIE's key judgments, made public by the White House days after they were leaked to Miller, said nothing about the alleged Niger uranium deal.

Another Dem in trouble;

Reids Image Takes a Hit - Las Vegas Review Journal

Since Reid has taken the job of minority leader his favorable rating have dropped 10 pts and his unfavorable ratings has gone up 14 pts.

The voters back home viewed him as a independent before becoming minority leader. They now view him as a partisan obstructionist.

His favorable rating is 43% down from 53% and his unfavorable is 39% up from 25%. Gee and it doesn't even have anything to do with corruption or Iraq, just incompetence!!!!

There goes the Dem take over!!!

With One Filing, Prosecutor Puts Bush in Spotlight

From the early days of the C.I.A. leak investigation in 2003, the Bush White House has insisted there was no effort to discredit Joseph C. Wilson IV, the man who emerged as the most damaging critic of the administration's case that Saddam Hussein was seeking to build nuclear weapons.

But now White House officials, and specifically President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, have been pitched back into the center of the nearly three-year controversy, this time because of a prosecutor's court filing in the case that asserts there was "a strong desire by many, including multiple people in the White House," to undermine Mr. Wilson.

The new assertions by the special prosecutor, Patrick J. Fitzgerald, have put administration officials on the spot in a way they have not been for months, as attention in the leak case seems to be shifting away from the White House to the pretrial procedural skirmishing in the perjury and obstruction charges against Mr. Cheney's former chief of staff, I. Lewis Libby Jr.

Mr. Fitzgerald's filing talks not of an effort to level with Americans but of "a plan to discredit, punish or seek revenge against Mr. Wilson." It concludes, "It is hard to conceive of what evidence there could be that would disprove the existence of White House efforts to 'punish Wilson.' "

With more filings expected from Mr. Fitzgerald, the prosecutor's work has the potential to keep the focus on Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney at a time when the president is struggling with his lowest approval ratings since he took office.
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Fitzgerald has done a remarkable job of making the guilty look guilty. He and his staff remained mute as they worked. The administration danced the not guilty dance and told the public why they weren't guilty. Fitzgerald went about his business. Finally Fitzgerald continued on in the case and went public again. The dance the administration was dancing didn't fit at all with the music. Soooo the administration looks that much more guilty.

Jeanne 13

That's the dumbest statement out of a cornnut yet!

If Fitzgerald gets a conviction on lying about the dates Libby spoke to a reporter, this is some how going to taint Bush and Cheney? What planet are you Cornnuts from?

U h h h h h , " L B H "

do you need a lecture on
Rumsfeldism and its perils ?

I'm leaning towards " Yes Absolutely Yes "

Anderson Petition

www.warisaracket.org

Gingrich at USD: Pull out of Iraq

Newt Gingrich, the former Republican Speaker of the House, told students and faculty at the University of South Dakota Monday that the United States should pull out of Iraq and leave a small force there, just as it did post-war in Korea and Germany.

"It was an enormous mistake for us to try to occupy that country after June of 2003," Gingrich said during a question-and-answer session at the school. "We have to pull back, and we have to recognize it."

Gingrich was at USD for the inaugural Edmund Burke Lecture, named after a man who is known as the father of modern conservatism.

ya, ha ha LBH - actually it was a statue of a naked britney spears giving birth - ironically it was the official icon of the pro-life camp

Gallup: Most Americans Critical of President in CIA Leak Case

NEW YORK A new Gallup poll released today finds that most Americans are critical of President Bush's actions in the Plame/CIA leak scandal, but only one in four is following the matter closely.

Overall, 63% of Americans believe Bush did something either illegal (21%) or unethical (42%), while 28% say he did nothing wrong. While many more Democrats are critical, 3 in 10 Republicans also find that Bush did something illegal or unethical.

The more closely people are following the issue, the more likely they are to say he did something illegal rather than merely unethical.

The poll, conducted April 7-9, 2006, shows that just 25% of Americans are following the matter "very" closely, while another 39% are following the issue "somewhat" closely. Another 36% are not following the issue closely at all.

Despite the latest turns in the CIA leak case, and news from Iraq, the president's overall approval rating did not fall still further, hanging on at 37%, which is in line with most other polls.

Special report: Hamas-led cabinet takes office

GAZA, April 10 (Xinhua) -- Spokesman of the Palestinian cabinet Ghazi Hamad said on Monday that Israel rejected an Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) proposal to agree on a long-term truce.

Hamad told reporters in Gaza that the proposal was "suggested by Hamas and later on by some ministers."

"The problem is with the Israeli side, which has not been interested in the matter," he said.

Hamas accepted in March 2005 in Cairo a one-year ceasefire,which expired on Dec. 31, 2005.

"Consequently, I believe that this suggestion is currently terminated in light of Israeli practices on the ground," Hamad said.

As for a financial crisis facing the Hamas-led government,Hamad said, "We studied all aspects of the issue and had some ideas to solve the problem."
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Israel wants peace only on their conditions, and the main condition is that all the Palestinians get the f**k out. Who would reject such a reasonable condition? Hamas has abided by the 1 year ceasefire, but Israel can't seem to stop slaughtering Palestinians, shooting children is an especially satisfying past time for them it seems.

Prewar intelligence probe grinds towards end as parties accuse each other of delay
John Byrne
Published: Tuesday April 11, 2006

GOP Chairman signals intent to examine Iran

The Senate Intelligence Committee's inquiry into whether the U.S. intelligence community "cooked" pre-war Iraq intelligence now appears likely to be concluded soon, and a spokesman for the Committee's chairman says he's ready to get onto more "pressing matters" like Iran.

Speaking for Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Pat Roberts (R-KS), spokeswoman Sarah Little told RAW STORY three sections of the so-called "Phase II" report are likely to made available to members of the committee after the Senate's Easter recess. Little rebuffed Democrats' assertions that the report had been unreasonably delayed.

Much more.

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In a classic case of be careful what you wish for, Chairman Roberts wants to clear his plate so we can move on to Iran...Phase II may be a colossal flop. We'll soon see. Or not.

Abaddon
Jeff Wells, Rigorous Intuition

April 10, 2006

Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died - Leonard Cohen

A quick review of the teaser of the nuking of Iran before they roll out the feature presentation.

First of all, the target isn't Iran, though of course it will be Iranians who may die by the hundreds of thousands should nuclear weapons be greenlighted for Washington's latest McGuffin. But Iran is no more the target than Japan was for Fat Man and Little Boy.

The principal target demographic for the atrocity still on storyboards is Russia and China. The nuking of Iran will be a blockbuster remaking of the demonstration events of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which announced to the Soviet Union and all comers that the American Aeon had arrived. At least that's how it will appear, and how it's being sold in the boardroom of America Inc. But the large stakeholders who are short-selling their shares in the Homeland, who supply sewage to its army for drinking water and whose loyalties are neither to that nor any other nation-state, may intend, rather, a windfall gotterdammerung that's more Springtime for Hitler.

The Council on Foreign Relations' Foreign Affairs primes the pump with triumphalist glitz in its March/April issue, confidently anticipating the coming end of the doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction with the proclamation, "It will probably soon be possible for the United States to destroy the long-range nuclear arsenals of Russia or China with a first strike."

Ring them bells: some would have it that the new balance of terror has been wargamed, and the balance has so tipped that the United States can terrorize the world at will. On the irradiated soil of the simulated East, everything's coming up roses:

There's a secondary audience for this, and it's us. Going nuclear has long been unthinkable, and the Dark Powers consider the problem to be the prohibition of our ethical tripwire, not the weapons themselves. So leaks are leaked and denied and the media assets go to work. It's how the unthinkable enters thought.

And one more thought. If Iran is nuked, it doesn't mean we're suddenly in an End Game scenario. We're already in it. Except for the shadows beneath the mushroom cloud apocalypse doesn't come in an instant. The breaking of souls is incremental. We are meant to acclimatize ourselves to Hell, to raise our children in it, and teach them to expect worse to come.

J Robert Oppenheimer became Death, the destroyer of worlds. Since George W Bush's religious alter is Christian rather than Hindu, perhaps what he's becoming is contained in this packet of Revelation 9:11 Truth: "They had as king over them the Angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek, Apollyon." And in English, Destroyer.

We're ready for your close-up, Dr Oppenheimer.
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Are they really this insane?

Hey Anderson

Stick to your petition, who knows, by the time the wars over you might have enough signatures to be relevant!!

Saladin

Supports Hamas suicide bombers that kill women and children.

Does not support Isreals right to exist!

Saladin= terrorist loving, f**king anti-semite!!!

Native Americans Want 'Bunker Buster' Test Stopped

''We are opposed to any further military testing on our lands,'' said Raymond Yowell, chief of the Western Shoshone National Council.

The site of the latest proposed test sits on the land recognized under the 1863 Treaty of Ruby Valley as part of the tribe's national territory, Shoshone leaders said, and the U.S. military therefore has no right to use it.

The U.S. government disagreed and has asserted its ownership of the land.

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I think it is encumbent upon all Americans to consider what the legacy of Manifest Destiny actually is.

As we are observing the immigration effects of global capitalism upon our southern neighbors; claim that Democracies don't start wars when we annexed the Southwest & California after deliberately enciting Mexico by American forces crossing the river under orders by President Polk.

Even today, the U.S. demonizes those such as Chavez, Morales and Obredor, who might do more to enrich the poor in their own countries, thereby lessening the need to travel to El Norte.

VIDEO: Cheney Loudly Booed During First Pitch
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Micki,
You were wondering where cheney was. I found him.

LOSER NATION

America is a nation of losers. It's the best thing about us. We're the dregs, what the rest of the world barfed up and threw on our shores.

John Kennedy said we are "a nation of immigrants." That's the sanitized phrase. We are, in fact, a nation of refugees who, despite the bastards in white sheets and the know-nothings in Congress, have held open the Golden Door to a dark planet.

Looking out at today's temptest-tossed masses of protesting immigrants, the wretched refuse just looking for a break, I finally figured out what's wrong with George Walker Bush. He's so far away from his refugee loser roots that he just doesn't get what it is to be American. So he steals the one thing that every American is handed off the boat: a chance. It's not just the immigrants denied a green card. When Bush threatens to take away your Social Security; when Bush's oil wars hike the price of crude and threaten your union job at the airline; when Bush tells you sleeper cells are sleeping under your staircase, you don't take chances anymore -- you lose your chance -- and the land of opportunity becomes a landscape of fear, an armed madhouse.

You want to say that George W. Bush is an evil sonovabitch? I'd go further: he's UN-AMERICAN.

And that's why he lost the election. Twice.

I'll stick with the losers. Take one, Anna, from Poland, who snuck across the US border near Windsor, Ontario. She was grabbed by La Migra -- 80 years later -- just short of her 100th birthday.

My father told Immigration, "OK, send her back." They didn't.

Grandma Anna taught me what two million marchers this week are trying to teach that slow learner, George W.: In America, it's not where you come from that counts, it's where you're going.

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Um, I think George has left that issue to "future presidents" because he has no clue how to fix the stuff he has broken (everything).

capt

PS - check ANY poll numbers against Cheney's - nobody is lower. (in more ways than one)

Hi David,

I suspect you glance at firedoglake from time to time. Resident FDL lawyer Christy Hardin Smith has opined convincingly that she and other prosecutors see Fitz's charges as a legal approach that creates a firewall that protects what they suspect the real case might be -- a wider ranging conspiracy charge they can prosecute, if they establish the facts that Libby's obstruction and such impede them from determining.

The legal tactics involved Hardin Smith describes as fairly standard, and they allow Fitz and his team to shield research into conspiracy charge from discovery by Libby, mainly because the conspiracy stuff that might involve Cheney and, dare I say it, Bush, is not part of the set of charges that Libby is facing at the moment.

Sure this is all conjecture, but it does seem to be paying dividends. And it would be interesting to see what conclusions or questions you come to based on additional info from lawyers about the long range legal strategy at work here.

PS check ANY poll numbers against Cheney's-nobody is lower.

Cheney isn't running for office Einstein- keep focusing on Bush/Cheney while the Democrats lose again in Nov.

Brilliant!!! he he he

Showdown In Cuernavaca: The Zapatista Other Campaign Occupies a Construction Site
The State Police – There to Arrest Protestors – “Ran Like Hens” When Authorities Learned that Subcomandante Marcos Was Coming
By Al Giordano
The Other Journalism with the Other Campaign in Morelos
April 10, 2006

CUERNAVACA, MORELOS, MEXICO; APRIL 10, 2006: Forty state troopers — armed with helmets, shields, billy club, ten horses, and heavy artillery — came, this morning, to one of Cuernavaca’s ritziest streets. Their intent: to remove a small group of environmentalists who had chained themselves to trees. The protestors oppose the construction of a shopping mall and a new highway over a small gorge at the end of the cul-de-sac named Acapatzinco Corner. At eleven a.m., a court order that had stalled the toppling of 200-year-old trees was to expire. The police — in this state where violence against social fighters is sacrament — brought two ambulances with them as an indication of how they thought the story would go.

On the other side of the city, in the indigenous stronghold of Ocotepec, Zapatista Subcomandante Marcos — halfway through his six-month tour of all of Mexico — made a telephone call to Authentic Journalist Hermann Bellinghausen of the daily La Jornada informing him of the invasion. Together with photographers Victor Camacho and Moyses Zuñiga, and reporter Karla Garza Martínez (collaborator of the Other Journalism as well as other independent media organizations) they arrived at the scene of the crime and began taking interviews, photos, and video (coming soon to an Other Screen near you).

Somewhere in the bowels of Mexican intelligence agencies the phones lit up like a Christmas tree: Marcos had notified the 55 members the alternative media and others in the caravan that travels with him that he was suspending a meeting with supporters this morning in Tetelcingo, Morelos, and that everybody should head for Acapatzingo: on this 87th memorial day of the assassination of General Emiliano Zapata Salazar, the revolutionary for whom Marcos’ Zapatista Army of National Liberation (EZLN, in its Spanish initials) is named.

Suddenly, the riot cops, the mounted police, and the ambulance drivers received a communication that Marcos was coming.

“They ran like hens,” explained one of the environmentalists later this morning, still chained to a tree.

“The Other Campaign saved us,” said another tree-hugger to the Other Journalism.

Cuernavaca — a city that bills itself as “the land of eternal spring” — has suffered grave water and environmental problems related to its rapid, unplanned, growth, left in the hands of the “free market,” especially since the Mexico City earthquake of 1985 when many of those could afford to leave the nation’s capital relocated a short distance to the south, here. Throughout his visit to this state that began on Friday, Marcos has heard from many citizens in different communities but with a common problem: the disappearance of forests (and with them, water supplies) and complaints that the “development” and “progress” praised by politicians and businessmen have only brought more poverty, environmental destruction and human suffering.

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Jeanne, is this you? I hope Harry sees this!
++++++++

"He would have been right on target if Harry was the catcher."

Comment by Jeanne — April 11, 2006 @ 2:30 pm

The Double-Standard of the Liberal Media

By Bruce Bartlett, Human Events

There have been 70 different members of the House who have been investigated for serious offenses over the last 30 years, including many involving actual criminality and jail time. Of these only 15 Republicans, with the remaining 55 involving Democrats.

Facts again paint a different picture than Cornnut fantasy land!!

Memo to LBH: If the Repug neocons maintain their grip on power, it will be because there are too many stooooooopid f**kin' dipshits like you and electronic voting. You know, you really are a royal pain in the ass. I don't know how your mother can stand you.

"Fitzzy can't prove that Val "the lime light gal" was undercover.
What a joke!!!"
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 11:57 AM

Plame was covert: Special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald “found that Plame had indeed done ‘covert work overseas’ on counterproliferation matters in the past five years, and the CIA ‘was making specific efforts to conceal’ her identity, according to newly released portions of a judge’s opinion.”

You are either playing stupid or you are an idiot. Either way, your lies make you look like an ignoramus.

"If Fitzgerald gets a conviction on lying about the dates Libby spoke to a reporter, this is some how going to taint Bush and Cheney? What planet are you Cornnuts from?"
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 01:06 PM

It's the lies. It's the destruction of emails contra White House policy. It's saying that he wants to know who is leaking the name of Valerie Plame, all the while he's selectively allowing lies to be spread. It's saying that he will fire anyone involved in the leaks (as Scotty McClellan said he would). It's a war that Newt Gingrich is saying was screwed by Field Marshall von Rumsfeld. It's the economy. It's Social Security. It's the Schiavo debacle. It's the Miers debacle. It's the xenophobic immigration posturing. He didn't get the name "Mr. 36%" for nothing. Although, that number might have to be lowered now that gas prices have started to hit the roof again.

And the Mooney Times says that immigration gives Dems another boost. Seems the Preznit is doing everything he can to destroy the Grand Ol' Spending Party.

Barclays sees average US oil price above $70/bbl

NEW YORK, April 11 (Reuters) - Barclays Capital analysts predict U.S. oil prices will average more than $70 a barrel by the end of 2006 on strong global demand and supply uncertainties from major oil exporters.

U.S. crude prices are unlikely to fall below $60 this year, they said.

Stubbornly high energy costs could cut into U.S. corporate earnings and consumer spending in 2006, Barclays analysts said at a press briefing on their second-quarter economic and market outlook.

More HERE

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Bunnypants and his big oil buddies are dancing a jig!

"Mission Accomplished!"

capt

The Double-Standard of the Liberal Media

"Facts again paint a different picture than Cornnut fantasy land!!"
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 02:47 PM

Fact: Cunningham, indicted, convicted of accepting millions in bribes

Fact: DeLay, indicted, resigned, cut and run coward

Fact: Bob Ney named as Rep. in Abramoff scandal and soon to be indicted.

Fact: Oompa-Loompa Libby, indicted, soon to be a prisonmate's boytoy.

Fact: Conrad Burns implicated in the Saipan sex scandal.

Fact: Gale Norton caught in the Abramoff scandal, resigned, cut and run coward.

etc. etc.

Keep bringing up Dems who were indicted 30 years ago. Campaign on it. I'm sure that'll turn the tide for the Grand Ol' Lynchin' Party.

Culture of Corruption. From top to bottom.

#33
You caught me.

ccobb #30:

Exactly!

Pande
Pandes getting his courage back!

Pande links to MSM article that says for fact that Plame was covert, but Fitz can't prosecute him for it! Sounds like you cornnuts need a new prosecuter.

Pande whines about destroyed emails, social security, economy, lies, Terri Schiavo, Gas prices (that also went up and down under Clinton) etc, blah blah blah.

You're a broken Democrat talking point Pande-

You point out Mr 36% approval when your hero Haryy is only at 43%. Bush's low number is because of the war, Harry's is because he's a failure.

You sight the Mooney Times to give Dems the immagration boost when in reality the American public supports building a wall and kickin your illegal ass back to Mexico. Rassmusen poll has 37% favor Gop to 31% Dems over immmagration. Even your hero Harry was against illegals back in 93 before being for them today before killing the bill in Congress that would let them stay. Just another corn-fused corn-nut like you.

Pande

so far all your whining about indictments only points to one for Cunningham.

So that makes 16 Republicans to 55 Democrats- we have a longggggg way to catch up with you crooks!!!!

NH GOP Strategist Made Call to the White House after Consulting Lawyer

The AP, in their story on calls to the White House, noted one call in particular, a 17 minute call from Jayne Millerick, then a GOP strategist working on the 2002 election. This was with the same number at the White House's Office of Political Affairs that James Tobin called so frequently.

The AP simply noted the call, and reported Millerick as saying that she "did not recall the subject" and that she hadn't learned of the plot until after the election.

But details from the phone records analyized by the Senate Majority Project suggest that Millerick was fully aware of the plot to jam the New Hampshire Democratic Party's phone lines and seriously concerned about its legality on the day of the jamming. If that's true, it suggests that the jamming was definitely on her mind when she phoned the White House on the afternoon of the crime. That call lasted from 2:59 PM to 3:16 PM.

Millerick made a run of calls on the day of the jamming that suggest that she was looking for legal advice:

At 10:32 AM on Election Day, for example, Millerick phoned the law firm of Nixon Peabody. It's been previously reported that former NH GOP chair John Dowd had ordered the jamming stopped after receiving legal advice from a lawyer named David Vicinanzo on Election Day morning. Nixon Peabody is Vicinanzo's firm.

Immediately following the call to that law firm, Jayne Millerick placed three calls to David Horan, a criminal defense attorney.
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The GOP didn't do the jamming because they found out it was illegal. They called all the lawyers to get the fine details on what they could do and what they couldn't do. It being unethical means nothing. How do they think this looks to the voters? How about to the next generation of voters?

Capt,

IIhope your're wrong, but you're not. Mr. Corn, keep digging, can you taste it yet? You have something, don't you?

Pande

Did you forget that it was Latinos that put Bush in office? You have no one to blame but your ext family.

Illegal Immigration Hits Red States in Their Most Vulnerable Spot

In all the immigration furor, it's worth pointing out exactly WHY some residents of border states, particularly Arizona and Texas, are so anti-immigrant and pro-enforcement.

Both these states owe much of their growth to a low-tax, low-education spending, low-social service culture that stretches back decades. Both states have been playing the something-for-nothing game, hoping that they will grow out of the structural deficits their tax and spending policies have created.

Texas has no income tax, and has been struggling for decades to fund adequately the education of its rapidly growing population. Arizona steadfastly refused to have a Medicaid program until the 1980s, when the feds let them establish a "demonstration" managed care project. Both states want the benefits of high growth without paying the price in physical and social infrastructure.

Blaming illegal immigrants is therefore an easy way for some residents of the cowboy states to avoid the REAL issue -- that they don't have the proper tax and capital investment policies to handle their current or future populations, legal or illegal.

...So, a modest proposal for the Democrats -- craft legislation offering regions most affected by illegal immigration (say, Texas and Arizona), incremental federal funds for education and health care, IF they are matched by increased state expenditures. This could work similar to a change in the Medicaid federal funds participation rate or a legislatively-sanctioned intergovernmental transfer, for the wonky among us. Such an approach would be both good policy and good politics. If the Republicans turn down such an arrangement, which they almost certainly would (raise taxes!?!?!?), the Democrats have yet another illustration that they are in fact the party of ideas, focused on solving the problems of ordinary Americans.
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Economics for the Citizen

WAY too much to make any clip but interesting in ten parts!

Jeanne,

I hope so much that I am tea-totally wrong about all of my cynical views - I really fear being half right. UGH!

I really thought something positive would happen from or in this WH. I was betting on the broken clock rule, so far I have been wrong about that so maybe wrong about everything.

capt

Pande

An Alabama employment agency that sent 70 laborers and construction workers to job sites in that state in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina says the men were sent home after just two weeks on the job by employers that told them "the Mexicans have arrived" and were willing to work for less.

Don't you Latino progressives have any compassion for Katrina victims?

Um, That was suppose to be Carey?

Just returned from the dentist and a numb mouth makes me type the wrong names!

HA!

capt

Here's what I think Fitzgerald has in mind: He KNOWS, or has a very good idea, who forged the documents about the Niger-Iraq yellowcake claim and is working on that aspect of his investigation. The trail will lead him directly to Veep the Creep cheney. At that point, cheney is SOL.*

*shitoutaluck

That's it Jeanne

Lets tax the hell out of the illegals - Democrat idea #1

Who cares that they are stealing jobs away from legals, just tax the hell out of them and all is good.

"Pande links to MSM article that says for fact that Plame was covert,"

That's how it's done, son. Get the facts so that you don't come off as such a dork.

"but Fitz can't prosecute him for it! Sounds like you cornnuts need a new prosecuter."

Can't prosecute who? The grand jury is still in session. Come back when the grand jury has given up. Right now, Fitz is just slow roasting the folks in the White House. And I like the smell or roasting Neocons.

"Pande whines ... blah blah blah."

That vocabulary of yours is rather unimpressive, as are your lies and your peerless ignorance.

"You point out Mr 36% approval when your hero Haryy is only at 43%. Bush's low number is because of the war"

There's the best example of your ignorance. It's more than the war; read the polls. It's the economy. The bungling the war on Terror. Everything. Big Dawg's poll numbers were in the 60's at this point. Of course nobody ever got killed over his lies. Which reminds me, how do you think Mr. Bush feels when he has to face the families of the troops he sent to be killed in Iraq over his lies?

You sight (sic) the Mooney Times to give Dems the immagration (sic) boost when in reality the American public supports building a wall and kickin your illegal ass back to Mexico."

More lies? And that's the best proof to date that if anyone is monitoring our comments they are giving us plenty of leeway.

Rassmusen poll has 37% favor Gop to 31% Dems over immmagration (sic)."
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 03:29 PM

Yeah, tell us again how the polls mean nothing. Then tell us about what an idiot the president is for threatening to fire anyone who was leaking information that was "legal" to leak. I've said it before and I'll say it again: having a dumbass like you around is the surest argument against the conservative movement. Who would want to be associated with a knuckledragging moron like you?

Micki

Ya that's it! Fitz can't prove Libby outed Val the gal so he's going to prove who forged the documents! ha ha ha!

That corn-nut kool-aid is a little strong for you light weights!

I came across a guys blog that came across THIS - See what you think.

capt

Pande

Let me help you out with that Jr College degree;

definition of a leak;

An UNAUTHORIZED disclosure of information!

Bush had every right (legal and ethical) to ought dipshit Wilson as a liar. Wilson has been proven a liar over and over and you Corn-nuts don't seem to be able to except the facts.

So keep up the democrat talking points that you read off Barbara Streisands web site- you're yesterdays news!!!

After a while, one wonders as to what logic there is to try to reason with a "nincompoop" LBH.

Would have made more sense in aborting himself,
or maybe he was kin to bunnypants.
all i can say is that this administration reminds me of a "banana republic".
They are above the law, and they never do wrong!!!

Pande

"The Grand jury is still in session" so what? Fitz has already filed his indictment on Libby and it had nothing to do with outing your gal Val! Move on already!!

It's the ecomony? So why are all your ext family from Mexico trying to get here in the millions illegally? Because our economy sucks? What a moron!

You ask how Mr Bush feels when he meets the families of war casualties? I don't pretend to know how anyone feels (thats a progressive trait, conservatives deal with facts not feelings). What I do know is that Cindy Sheehan had nothing but praise for Bush when He met her personally.

Now your buddy Clinton was stiffed a handshake by the father of the a soldier that died in Mogadishu in front of the TV cameras. This, if I had to guess about feeling would be considered embarrassing. You say no one died under Clintons wars, well tell that to the 84 families that had loved ones die in this failed battle because Clinton lost his balls.

More lies without facts by Pande

SHORT VIDEO: Look at the LEADING-KNOW NOTHING! aka george w bush

That there are still people who support this ignoramous is astounding! GWB's legacy will be that he provided historians ample evidence that the American sheeple are willing to be herded by a clueless "leader" who only consults God and dick cheney.

bush has looked stooopid on many occasions, but this video takes the cake!

Pande

Boy, you have gotten some balls back- better watch out or capt and saladin will scold you and send you back to your room!

Hey Pete in TX

Haven't you heard boy, it's liberals who abort their baby's not conservatives. However, I'm sure you liberals would love to make it legal to force conservatives to abort also.

MUHAMMAD SAHIMI

Sahimi is professor of chemical engineering at the University of Southern California. He co-wrote, with Nobel Peace Prize winner Shirin Ebadi, the op-ed "Defusing Iran with Democracy."

Sahimi said today: "The Bush administration should not willingly give rise to a potent and volatile mixture of Iranian nationalism, the Shiites' long tradition of martyrdom, and Islamic fundamentalim of Iran's hard-liners. But talk of military strikes on Iran, particularly use of tactical nuclear bombs, will do exactly that. It also strengthens the radicals, and weakens the democratic forces in Iran. In an actual military conflict with Iran, this volatile mixture would respond in a way that might engulf the entire region in fire. There is one and only one solution to Iran's nuclear program, and that is through negotiations."

to LBH: NINCOMPOOP =
playwright William Wycherley had one his characters declare: "Thou senseless, impertinent, quibbling, drivelling, feeble, paralytic, impotent, fumbling, frigid nincompoop." If that's not poetry, I don't know what is
Roget’s II: The New Thesaurus, Third Edition. 1995.

nincompoop :

NOUN: One deficient in judgment and good sense: ass, fool, idiot, imbecile, jackass, mooncalf, moron, ninny, nitwit, simple, simpleton, softhead, tomfool. Informal : dope, gander, goose. Slang : cretin, ding-dong, dip, goof, jerk, nerd, schmo, schmuck, turkey. See ABILITY.

http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=20010628

YO!! WHAT'S UP, FOLKS??!!!

Steven Kinzer has a new book," Overthrow: America's Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq". This book details the overthrow of Iranian leader Mohammad Mossadegh and the installation of The Shah, America's sellout puppet. Kinzer also wrote "All the Shah's Men: An American Coup and the Roots to Middle Eastern Terror".

SALADIN: Hi'ya hon'! Yeah, this WH makes Nixon and his Watergate crew look like they stole a bag of Cheetos at the corner store. Hi CAPT,PANDE,MICKI and JEANNE.

I think LBH is intentionally trying to antagonize either the people who post here or David Corn. He's way out of line and he knows it.

Thank you, PETE in TX #62!

#61

If bush and his warmongering sycophants execute U.S. military action against Iran - with or without tactical nuclear weapons -- they would be applying the bush doctrine of preventive war in an unprecedented, dangerous way that would set the stage for years, possibly decades, of regional and global violence.

bush needs to be restrained -- he is currently unrestrained by law.

On another matter, Saladin (from a previous thread), who left you in charge of defining what a troll is? Murad may appear only on an occasional basis, but he is entitled to his opinion just like everyone else is on this blog. I'll respond to whomever I decide, and I don't need you to give me a hall pass to do so.

Pete in Tx

Control yourself, friend!!! No need for getting all emotional.

Jeanne
The onlt thing out of line is the corn-nut thinking process. I'm just here to point out were you've gone wrong!

Coroline asks Saladin who left her in charge of defining what a troll is- actually that was me;

T-tough
R-republican
O-outwits
L-liberal
L-lefties

On the other hand, caroline kicks saladins ass on a regular basis. I love this site!!!

Pete in Tx

Hey Pete, did you really have to look up "nincompoop" from Random House to learn it's meaning? That's a good one!!!

Petes been cyber-educated!!

Poll shows Californians not impressed with Bush or Congress

SAN FRANCISCO A new poll indicates Californians are not impressed with President Bush or Congress.

The latest Field Poll suggests California residents don't like the way the president has handled the Iraq war. More than six-in-ten of the people surveyed disapprove of the job Bush is doing.

Californians also disapprove of the Congressional scandals and the House and Senate's immigration reform proposals.

Field Poll Executive Director Mark DiCamillo says voters are "losing confidence" in the political leadership in Washington and want change.

Sixty-four percent of respondents say the country is "seriously" off track.

The poll also shows Californians are not particularly enthusiastic about the economy, even though the country is not in recession.

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Not so much the content as the source (Why does Kevin Spacey come to mind?)

capt

Pande this ones for you buddy!

State (D Fl) Sen. Gary Siplin facing criminal charges. Siplin was charged with using taxpayer money to pay for part of his campaign.

Cynthia McKinney admits mis-using tax payer money and hitting police officer.

Alan Mollohan (D WVa) 250 ethics violations.

Difference:

Dems don't steal from lobbyist like republicans they steal from taxpayers.

Dear LBH, little did I know that ignorance is a virtue , and as you demonstrate , your pride of being a great example of being a know it all nincompoop- you have me floored. Seen a mirror lately?

or is it your pride showing !!!
open your eyes, you might see ,or read , or understand and comprehend something......
-oops sorry your almighty is da bush!!...

whatever caroline, I recall saying the very opposite and it was you whining about capt and I posting to trolls. So our definition is different as to what a troll is. You spend more time slamming me then any bushbot.
Jeanne is right, how obnoxious does a troll have to be to get the boot from the Corn blog?
BTW, anyone know what the immigration restrictions and requirements are in Mexico? Would you like a sampling of immigration hell? I don't understand why the US should be required to pay for the health care and education of illegal immigrants when we can't even pay for the native born people of America, shit, we're borrowing money to decimate the middle east, how can we take care of the worlds poor when we are fast approaching bankruptcy ourselves? But then, that's the whole purpose, isn't it? One nation, under slavery, with health and social well being for no one.
Bro Tex, I miss you everytime! Hope you will pop in more often.

Saladin, please re-read what I posted. The thrust of my comment was about the lectures you dish out, not so much the responding to the trolls.

Carry on.

I wonder why you think it was Mr. Corn who posted the warning about decorum. Perhaps it was. But if it was, he must have been harried because the manner in which the warning was worded did not rise to David's usual level of expression.

hurried, not harried.

lectures? The only time I even bring it up is when someone posts a long lament about the trolls and their ability to derail the thread. I have said over and over that I don't care who posts what to who, why should I? But if people want to get rid of the trolls they have to ignore them. I do. Anyone who still supports bushco, yet comes here wondering why people on a left leaning blog can't stand him needs therapy! But by all means, argue away, I don't care, scrolling past is no trouble.

I fail to see the joy in bantering in such harsh words to and fro with individuals, especially when the times we live in are so tumultuous. And, I have long put off writing this post, as I did not think this was my business, but the words on this board are becoming rather acerbic at times, and every fiber in my body screams, now is the time.

Ladies and Gentlemen, we are all bretheren, are we not? And, is not this lack of love between neighbors the behavior which is responsible for a large portion of the world's severe division and disconnection of social mores and ideals, lack of love and family happiness and the unappreciative attitude of simple pleasures and smiling eyes? I thank you Mr. Corn, for your requesting post to cease this bashing, as it is un-neighborly and certainly uncalled for.

I, too, am a spiritual individual and put my faith in God and the salvation of Jesus, though I do not consider myself part of the denomination of organized Christianity or any other organized religion. I, too, believe we are living in prophetically numbered days. I, too, believe this country is being operated according to a controlling desire that some certainly will simply not allow them selves to see or just cannot see. But, contrary to what some may believe, this desire has a true purpose which has and will continue to shame the elected commander despicably, and which will lead him into the depths of vile obsession and uncivilized unruliness.

The United States has proven itself to be the most successful nation in the world, the first to have produced an atomic and nuclear weapon, the first to rule and dominate as a SUPER POWER, opening with Harry Truman. It is the most diverse continent in the world, accepting of all people, religions, countries, and socially and globally prepared to be of assistance without giving pause to a grossly misshapen profit margin - until the twenty-first century, that is.

That is where the buck stopped. Ponder if you would, why references to the president such as bushitler, George the Second, little big man, mabus or din are used, amongst others. Is this purely coincidental? I do not believe it can be. Associations such as these are given for reasons and, despite any haranguing one's mind is contemplating right this second, evidence is there to back these nicknames up. Perhaps to you, the evidence may not be your evidence, but to many who have taken the time to explore history, written literature or read the world news and compare it prophecy, it matches. Yes, folks, it matches and Saladin's posting does describe the truth of the day ...

"J Robert Oppenheimer became Death, the destroyer of worlds. Since George W Bush's religious alter is Christian rather than Hindu, perhaps what he's becoming is contained in this packet of Revelation 9:11 Truth: "They had as king over them the Angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek, Apollyon." And in English, Destroyer"

Logic, history, the times we live in and my life experience cumulatively tell me to base my belief system upon the prophets and word of Jesus and not man. I add to this, the extensive comparison of research I have performed, and the truisms I have witnessed in my lifetime in the past century and in just this short one. Being a watcher, one tends to keep a keen eye on such things, and those who know the meaning of that particular word, know what I speak of and do not doubt the time we are living in, or the tidings of that which is seen.

One poster had taken the time to state truth as he believed it, but yet the ridicule and mockery continued. This was reminiscent of the Pharisees, Sadducees and Jews who ridiculed and mocked Jesus. However, all this poster did was express his love for his faith and his dislike for what he did not like. Prophecy tells us, and not only in the Bible, that there will come a day when those who believe in God will be oppressed, ridiculed, mocked, tortured and put to death. I fail to see the humor and ridicule in that notion, but those who have faith and love for God, true love and undying faith, know that day is coming again, and these individuals are prepared to die for the faith and love they hold so dearly in their hearts. Guess whose hands will be putting them to death, dear ladies and gentlemen? The hands that hold the power! Revelation, Nostradamus Century 1.

The populace is in for a huge slap in the face. No, I am not talking fire and brimstone. I am talking what you have already witnessed in the past year or so, but on such a grander scale it will make your head reel - hurricanes, flood, drought, scorching sun, snowstorms, tornadoes, hail, gas and oil shortages, medicine shortages, housing shortages, employment shortages, food shortages, contaminated waters, famine, pestilence, plague, epidemics and a multitude of deaths, not only human, but the ocean and land creatures, too - Revelation, Nostradamus, Centuries 1 and 2, Hopi and Navaho Prophecy, and a multitude of authors.

Our ports will dry up, merchant ships will not drop off imports, we will not export, and the prices of everything will skyrocket. No, gold and silver will not be worth anything, it will become meaningless, it will not buy a blessed thing. Hoard all the currency and precious metals one may want, but there will not be a single product left to buy because name it, it will not be available to purchase to the masses of ordinary people. Only the privileged and the drones will be able to obtain what they want, only those who wear a special insignia will be able to purchase anything that will be able to sustain life - Revelation, Nostradamus, Century 1.

This is where the anarchy so many speak of will set in, when the average person cannot feed his or her self or their family, child or children. When the hungry are dying in the street from starvation and/or sickness. When people are falling over each other to glean the scraps of food out of the garbage barrels. When people are killing each other as they guard their possessions from looters. When your own family is turning you over to the authorities. When everything you held near and dear means nothing and everyone is screaming, "God, why have you forsaken me?" Yes, this is where pandemonium will strike fear in the hearts of mortal man, where all rationale will disappear.

I certainly do not believe there is an escape to the time we are facing. They are to be upon us as sure as the current president is to remain in office until 2008, the war is to remain in Iraq until after that and, by the looks of things, the United States just may attack other countries in the name of democracy. However, there is something that the human race can do, and that is to turn its ways around. Yes, to be one with all is one way to look at it, with peace, love and harmony surrounding all, but unless the human race pulls together in spiritual consciousness, not only in the US but everywhere, this planet, this system of things as we know it now, becomes non-existent, and that is a reality.

This is going to hit the theaters globally dear ladies and gentlemen. And, yes, people can go back to any country of origin thinking their life may be better, but it will not be so. However, woe to America, she is the one who so sorely whores herself out in the name of what this country stands for, democracy, with the abhorrent price of death as payment, and her people and the world are opening their eyes and expressing their extreme dislike. Unfortunately, these wanton acts are perpetrated by a man who professes to love God and carries out these deeds under the guise of God's name and blessing. Such an atrocious sham and apostasy!

The CASSINI satellite took some interesting pictures of the planets' alignment on August 18, 1999. These photos showed one of the most amazing alignments ever seen in history. The Sun, Venus and Mercury were in the sign of Leo, Mars and the Moon were in Scorpio with Pluto close by Sagittarius, Saturn and Jupiter were in Taurus and Neptune and Uranus were in Aquarius forming what astrolgers call the "Grand Cross Astrology Pattern."

Some may say we have entered into the Age of Aquarius, some may say the president is the Anti-Christ by simple Hebrew, Pythagorean, Chaldean and/or ASCII numerological calculations, some may say we can possibly make our way out of this troublesome corridor with one world leader, coupled with one financial currency, but the bottom line is that the masses have forsaken their inherent free will. So, be prepared, be put on alert, be patient and tolerant, but first and foremost, become repentant and faithful, because this is all that is being asked of you. Revelation, Nostradamus Century 1.

Maybe Mr. Corn was a little pissed that he had to institute oversight when all people need to do is offer mutual respect and civility. The personal attacks and insults that would be "moderated" off of any other blog are also not necessary here.

"To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it."

~ G. K. Chesterton (1874 - 1936)

Just sayin'

capt

Mafia superboss Provenzano caught

Cosa Nostra superboss Bernardo Provenzano, whose ghostly aura fed the Sicilian Mafia's mystique for almost half a century, was arrested Tuesday morning in the biggest police coup in over a decade .

Provenzano, 73, did not resist arrest when police broke into his hide-out in an apparently abandoned building on a sheep farm near his home town of Corleone south of Palermo .

"He didn't move. He was unruffled and didn't say anything," the arresting officer said. Police called the arrest "historic" .

More HERE

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Fredo strikes again?

capt

IRAQ: Health workers decry lack of medical supplies

RAMADI, 10 April (IRIN) - Doctors in Anbar governorate, particularly those in the city of Ramadi some 100km west of the capital, are urging the government to tackle the issue of the lack of medicines and essential surgical materials available in local hospitals.

"Most of our patients are being sent to the capital because we don't have enough supplies to proceed with surgical operations," complained Dr Ala'a Rabia'a of the Ramadi General Hospital.

According to Rabia'a, hospitals in neighbouring cities too, including Fallujah and al-Qaim, are suffering similar shortages. "We have enough staff to help patients, but this is useless since we don't have enough material," Rabia'a explained. "We need supplies urgently to meet the needs of all hospitals and clinics in the area."

The doctor went on to explain that Ramadi General Hospital was particularly in need of emergency materials such as syringes, pain killers, plasters, antibiotics and anaesthetics. "Local NGOs sometimes send us supplies, but most of them aren't appropriate to our needs," Rabia'a stressed.

More HERE

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Iraq is ostensibly a rich country with huge reserves of oil wealth under the sand. Why should they be in such dire need for medical supplies? There must be some way to allow or supply medical needs. The shortages are inexcusable or intentional. The new windfall profits from the Iraq invasion do not seem to benefit the Iraqis in any way? How can that be?

How long do we expect the Iraqi people to endure? Bush says it will be up to the next president?

capt

One of the liabilities of a free speech blog is postings by people who come here to bluster, provoke and antagonize. I am not the only one who finds their contributions, if they can be called that, undesirable.

Their ability to derail interesting conversation is proportional to their ability to provoke a response by antagonizing others.

I hope people who like to come here to have a conversation about political topics - the ones David poses and the ones that we bring up with each other - can decide to refrain from responding to people who want argue, bluster, provoke and antagonize as their principle motivation.

Nobody gets the Kevin Spacey thing?

Look at the address of the link?

capt

"Freedom is the right to be wrong, not the right to do wrong."

~ John G. Riefenbaker

I believe it was David Corn who posted the warning about rude and profane posts and his intent to block anyone who decides to engage in that kind of discourse.

Graceful Karma, that was very good. I too believe that strange things are coming, things we don't want to see or know. I refrain from placing labels on events or trying to predict what may come. One thing I do know is that it is better to prepare in the best way you can, with the information you have, then to be caught unaware. The writing is most definitely on the wall. It is true that keeping and saving currency in the form of precious metals may be useless, but silver and gold have always been valuable to humans, for whatever reason. I also believe there will always be a black market for these things. If nothing else they will be useful in trade for things that we need, like seeds and information. At the worst it will be of no value, but in any case you won't lose anything. Saving is an important and responsible thing to do, as far as we are able. Failure to prepare will mean certain grief through reliance on the very forces you are trying to avoid. I will at least be able to say I tried, and hopefully my preparations will enable me to help others who were not so fortunate. If I can do that I will feel successful.

Got it capt!

The "seven Jews control the media" link, and the comment by a "Jew" following it, which dragged in every canard in the fascist playbook, are anti-semitic baloney through and through.

Fact- capt lectures about civility but continues to call Happy and LBH juvenile names and use profanity when angered.

Fact- Saladin lies again that she does not respond to trolls even though she did at least ten times just yesterday.

Fact- OReilly says that others come here to antagonize when he posts the "starts shit list" more than a couple dozen times.

Fact - if David were going to block anything it would be saladins ant-semite comments.

Fact- If Capt and Saladin and Pande would mind their own business for once instead of being the hall monitors and worrying what everyone else is doing or saying-there would be no problem.

You be the judge:

7 James Ha 5
We know you don't care about that! All you care about is naked Britney Spears photo's!! HA HA Ha
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 11:51 AM

8 David twists the truth and says-Cheney gets off the hook.
Cheney never broke any laws. Fitzzy can't prove that Val "the lime light gal" was undercover.
Funny how facts seem to work against the Dems. Can't prove Bush leaked but McDermott gets slammed in court for it and it's OK because he's a liberal Demrocrat.
What a joke!!!
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 11:57 AM

15 Another Dem in trouble;
Reids Image Takes a Hit - Las Vegas Review Journal
Since Reid has taken the job of minority leader his favorable rating have dropped 10 pts and his unfavorable ratings has gone up 14 pts.
The voters back home viewed him as a independent before becoming minority leader. They now view him as a partisan obstructionist.
His favorable rating is 43% down from 53% and his unfavorable is 39% up from 25%. Gee and it doesn't even have anything to do with corruption or Iraq, just incompetence!!!!
There goes the Dem take over!!!
Posted by: LBh at April 11, 2006 12:45 PM

17 Jeanne 13
That's the dumbest statement out of a cornnut yet!
If Fitzgerald gets a conviction on lying about the dates Libby spoke to a reporter, this is some how going to taint Bush and Cheney? What planet are you Cornnuts from?
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 01:06 PM

25 Hey Anderson
Stick to your petition, who knows, by the time the wars over you might have enough signatures to be relevant!!
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 02:15 PM

26 Saladin
Supports Hamas suicide bombers that kill women and children.
Does not support Isreals right to exist!
Saladin= terrorist loving, f**king anti-semite!!!
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 02:27 PM

31 PS check ANY poll numbers against Cheney's-nobody is lower.
Cheney isn't running for office Einstein- keep focusing on Bush/Cheney while the Democrats lose again in Nov.
Brilliant!!! he he he
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 02:43 PM

34 The Double-Standard of the Liberal Media
By Bruce Bartlett, Human Events
There have been 70 different members of the House who have been investigated for serious offenses over the last 30 years, including many involving actual criminality and jail time. Of these only 15 Republicans, with the remaining 55 involving Democrats.
Facts again paint a different picture than Cornnut fantasy land!!
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 02:47 PM

41 Pande
Pandes getting his courage back!
Pande links to MSM article that says for fact that Plame was covert, but Fitz can't prosecute him for it! Sounds like you cornnuts need a new prosecuter.
Pande whines about destroyed emails, social security, economy, lies, Terri Schiavo, Gas prices (that also went up and down under Clinton) etc, blah blah blah.
You're a broken Democrat talking point Pande-
You point out Mr 36% approval when your hero Haryy is only at 43%. Bush's low number is because of the war, Harry's is because he's a failure.
You sight the Mooney Times to give Dems the immagration boost when in reality the American public supports building a wall and kickin your illegal ass back to Mexico. Rassmusen poll has 37% favor Gop to 31% Dems over immmagration. Even your hero Harry was against illegals back in 93 before being for them today before killing the bill in Congress that would let them stay. Just another corn-fused corn-nut like you.
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 03:29 PM

42 Pande
so far all your whining about indictments only points to one for Cunningham.
So that makes 16 Republicans to 55 Democrats- we have a longggggg way to catch up with you crooks!!!!
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 03:31 PM

45 Pande
Did you forget that it was Latinos that put Bush in office? You have no one to blame but your ext family.
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 03:42 PM

48 Pande
An Alabama employment agency that sent 70 laborers and construction workers to job sites in that state in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina says the men were sent home after just two weeks on the job by employers that told them "the Mexicans have arrived" and were willing to work for less.
Don't you Latino progressives have any compassion for Katrina victims?
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 03:54 PM

51 That's it Jeanne
Lets tax the hell out of the illegals - Democrat idea #1
Who cares that they are stealing jobs away from legals, just tax the hell out of them and all is good.
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 03:59 PM

53 Micki
Ya that's it! Fitz can't prove Libby outed Val the gal so he's going to prove who forged the documents! ha ha ha!
That corn-nut kool-aid is a little strong for you light weights!
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 04:03 PM

55 Pande
Let me help you out with that Jr College degree;
definition of a leak;
An UNAUTHORIZED disclosure of information!
Bush had every right (legal and ethical) to ought dipshit Wilson as a liar. Wilson has been proven a liar over and over and you Corn-nuts don't seem to be able to except the facts.
So keep up the democrat talking points that you read off Barbara Streisands web site- you're yesterdays news!!!
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 04:08 PM

57 Pande
"The Grand jury is still in session" so what? Fitz has already filed his indictment on Libby and it had nothing to do with outing your gal Val! Move on already!!
It's the ecomony? So why are all your ext family from Mexico trying to get here in the millions illegally? Because our economy sucks? What a moron!
You ask how Mr Bush feels when he meets the families of war casualties? I don't pretend to know how anyone feels (thats a progressive trait, conservatives deal with facts not feelings). What I do know is that Cindy Sheehan had nothing but praise for Bush when He met her personally.
Now your buddy Clinton was stiffed a handshake by the father of the a soldier that died in Mogadishu in front of the TV cameras. This, if I had to guess about feeling would be considered embarrassing. You say no one died under Clintons wars, well tell that to the 84 families that had loved ones die in this failed battle because Clinton lost his balls.
More lies without facts by Pande
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 04:20 PM

59 Pande
Boy, you have gotten some balls back- better watch out or capt and saladin will scold you and send you back to your room!
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 04:28 PM

60 Hey Pete in TX
Haven't you heard boy, it's liberals who abort their baby's not conservatives. However, I'm sure you liberals would love to make it legal to force conservatives to abort also.
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 04:31 PM

67 Pete in Tx
Control yourself, friend!!! No need for getting all emotional.
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 04:49 PM

67 Pete in Tx
Control yourself, friend!!! No need for getting all emotional.
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 04:49 PM

68 Jeanne
The onlt thing out of line is the corn-nut thinking process. I'm just here to point out were you've gone wrong!
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 04:50 PM

69 Coroline asks Saladin who left her in charge of defining what a troll is- actually that was me;
T-tough
R-republican
O-outwits
L-liberal
L-lefties
On the other hand, caroline kicks saladins ass on a regular basis. I love this site!!!
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 04:55 PM

70 Pete in Tx
Hey Pete, did you really have to look up "nincompoop" from Random House to learn it's meaning? That's a good one!!!
Petes been cyber-educated!!
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 04:59 PM

72 Pande this ones for you buddy!
State (D Fl) Sen. Gary Siplin facing criminal charges. Siplin was charged with using taxpayer money to pay for part of his campaign.
Cynthia McKinney admits mis-using tax payer money and hitting police officer.
Alan Mollohan (D WVa) 250 ethics violations.
Difference:
Dems don't steal from lobbyist like republicans they steal from taxpayers.
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 05:12 PM

The war on Christians continues

Oppressed homobigots fight for their rights

Yesterday's LA Times featured an article about a Georgia Tech student who's crusading for her right to harass gay people, arguing that her religion "compels her to speak out against homosexuality." She's part of a growning number of conservative Christians who claim that anti-discrimination policies put in place to protect the LGBT community from harassment infringes upon their freedom of religion. My new favorite Christian crackpot, Vision America's Rick Scarborough, who organized the recent War on Christians Conference, has thrown his weight behind the case. "Christians," he said, "are going to have to take a stand for the right to be Christian."

The Green Knight, a liberal Christian blogger, quite bluntly retorts: I Can't Stand These People.

More HERE

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It would be funny if it was not so true!

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Caroline #76, exactly. Would he say, "I have just bothered to figure out how to ban individual commenters from this site"? Not to mention he's not a webmaster guru, he's a writer.

93 Yes, and just before he posted that entry, he deleted a rude and profane post from that thread.

Satan victim of a devilish image problem

A FORMER Jesuit turned university professor has set himself an ambitious project: rehabilitating the devil.

Henry Angsmar Kelly says Satan is the most maligned figure in history and has endured 17 centuries of unjustified character assassination.

"For 1700 years Satan has been the enemy of God, whereas in the Bible he works for God, he's his prime minister or attorney-general, in charge of policing the world," Professor Kelly said.

"He is one of God's angels, and his job is to test people."

The 71-year-old University of California professor has played devil's advocate for four decades, and is the author of many books and scholarly articles.

The devil did not have a kingdom, did not rule over hell, and did not try to damn people, Professor Kelly said. These ideas had developed from the second to the fourth centuries AD, and were refined for the next 1000 years. Professor Kelly said it was important to recapture the biblical understanding of Satan to combat the doctrine of original sin, "in which the whole human race is delivered to Satan".

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This guy reminds me of a Busheney PR shill! They were talking about some "new blood" to rehabilitate this free fall poll numbers?

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"The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right."

~ William Safire
US columnist & speechwriter (1929 - )

The right to do something does not mean you did it right, either.

Several posts above point to the power of secretive Jewish organizations, citing Quigley. What they fail to point out is the growing power of the establishment faction delineated in "The Yankee and Cowboy Wars" (Carl Oglesby). Quigley was quite aware of this, as was President Eisenhower. He called it "the military, industrial, congressional complex." Those on the right are quite happy to trumpet the power of the "Anglo-American Establishment" but are curiously silent about the contending forces.

Neither has the interests of the common person at stake. They're both our enemies.

Lock up Bush and Cheney until they rot.

#91

Wow! Thanks for that tribute to me!!! I never realized how good I was until that post. It's no wonder Pande can't keep up! David surely can appreciate my outstanding humor since he had a gig as a stand up comic.

"Fact- If ... Pande would mind their own business for once instead of being the hall monitors ...."
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 06:35 PM

Remember. I'm the one that wants you here as a permanent reminder to the dopes who are interested in defending the Grand Ol' Spending Party. I know that the grownups GoOPers worry that your homophobic, xenophobic, borderline racist rants make them look idiotic by extension. I'm fine with that. As long as the rest of the folks can see that the Grand Ol' Lynchin' Party is at its highest point with dimwits like you defending it.

Same with Mr. Bush. Please, dear Lord, don't let anything happen to our precious pointy-headed leader. I want him to be an anvil in the Grand Ol' Lying Party's sinking kayak.

"Gas prices (that also went up and down under Clinton) etc, blah blah blah."
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 03:29 PM

Facts. If only you were able to bring up relevant facts I wouldn't have to educate you so often. Gas prices went down (from over $1.50 to almost $1.00, careful, that's one of those pdf jobbies) under Big Dawg's administration. As I said, with friends like you, conservatives need not worry about their enemies.

"Dems don't steal from lobbyist like republicans they steal from taxpayers."
Posted by: LBH at April 11, 2006 05:12 PM

Complaining about stealing from the taxpayers is a little pot calling the kettle black. That's something conservatives specialize in. Conservatives stealing money from the public purse runs in the Billions of dollars. Earmarks have gone from a hundred or so under Dem control to almost 10,000 pet projects under Republican control. That has resulted in almost $29 BILLION in precious dollars that were taken from our pockets and put into their pet projects. Even Mr. Bush likes to get into the money squandering including a little sumthin' special for Mrs. Bush.

I almost forgot to mention another Republican indictment in the most corrupt White House since the Harding administration, David Safavian. He'll be telling stories about his White House connections in the pokey, too.

89, what on earth do fractional banking practices have to do with Jews? Or facists for that matter? I am neither a Jew or anti-Jew, semite or anti-semite. I know for a fact that no one race or religion has a monopoly on racist thinking or greedy motives, I also know that race is played to the hilt when internal strife is desired, and in that area you fill the bill. So transparent and pathetic.

Larry Johnson has an updated timeline of Plamegate at truthout. If you haven't seen it yet here it is.

Once you review this material, there should be no doubt that President Bush is a bald-faced liar...

Has anyone seen the doc "Why we Fight"? It's very good.

This is a paragraph from the article James linked at # 5. Pan, I have to say that the gas prices and the people who play with them have nothing to do with partisan politics. This is a bankers game, it always has been. You may want to read that article, the blame should be placed where it belongs. I despise bushco, but even they have no control over the big players. When clinton said someone else is making the decisions, this is the someone else he was referring to.
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In the mid 1970s, the final phase of System 2000, a "global creditors' unilateral totalitarian plan" was put into effect. A Pentagon official and three other US officials went to the Prime Minister of Nigeria and offered him fifty million dollars in cash to double the price of light crude oil. Nigeria is one of only two countries in the world that produce light crude, which is an extremely pure form of oil whose price sets the standard for all other forms of crude oil.
Armed with the knowledge that, because of their deal with Nigeria, the price of Mid-east oil was about to skyrocket, the international bankers went to the Arabs and said, "We will send the price of crude oil as high as you want if you will promise to invest some of the money you make in the United States."

Watch out Pande's on the attack!

Hey, it only took you 3 hrs and 35 mins this time to come up with that brilliant master piece of a rebuttal. Your getting better at the quick responses, Pande. I better watch out or you might step that up by another 15 mins. next time.

I like how you cherry pick from my comments what you want to respond to instead of addressing all my key points. I guess you just don't have an answer for everything.

Hello, earmarks are what congressman (Dem and Rep) do for their home states that bring money into local projects. That is unless the illegal Mexicans show up.

Now it is a Republican named John McCain that wants to include earmarks into the ethics bill but your buddy Harry wouldn't have it.

"Remember I'm the one who wants you to stick around" says Pande.

Ya see corn-nuts, Pande wants me here, so I guess I'm here to stay! I think Jooeek has the hots for me but is afraid to admit it. That's what all the sparring is about. I hear it's a form of progressive flirting.

The gas prices under Clinton only went down when he drained our strategic oil reserve that is to be used in national emergencies only. Ah, screw national emergencies, Clintons poll numbers were more important.

Now I don't expect you to know this about your buddy Clinton cause you were still in diapers when he was Prez. I know, you think of him as your big daddy, the first brown President.

Later Pande

You have all night to brain storm a better come-back. Maybe you and Pete from Tx can put your heads together and use that cyber knowledge to your advantage. Later Dudes!!!

Jojo, #98, the doc movie "Why We Fight" is based on President Eisenhower's parting admonition to beware the military industrial complex.

The love of liberty is the love of others; the love of power is the love of ourselves.: William Hazlitt (1778-1830)

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He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, science for him the spinal cord would fully suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, senseless brutality, deplorable love-of-country stance, how violently I hate all this, how despicable an ignorable war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be a part of so base an action! It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder." : Albert Einstein

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Big money and big business, corporations and commerce, are again the undisputed overlords of politics and government. The White House, the Congress and, increasingly, the judiciary, reflect their interests. We appear to have a government run by remote control from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the National Association of Manufacturers and the American Petroleum Institute. To hell with everyone else: Bill Moyers - PBS Commentator

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The principal power in Washington is no longer the government of the people it represents. It is the Money Power. Under the deceptive cloak of campaign contributions, access and influence, votes and amendments are bought and sold. Money established priorities of action, holds down federal revenues, revises federal legislation, shifts income from the middle class to the very rich. Money restrains the enforcement of laws written to protect the country from abuses of wealth--laws that mandate environmental protection, antitrust laws, laws to protect the consumer against fraud, laws that safeguard the securities markets, and many more: Richard N. Goodwin - Speechwriter for John F. Kennedy

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"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.": Mussolini

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Thanks ICH Newsletter!

Pande

One last thing before I go. That link you provided for the 29 billion pork barrel was good stuff but maybe you should have read the whole article because it had as many Democrats listed as Republicans. LOL - good one!!!! Jooeek your so funny!!!

Hey lbh

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