We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone........Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again.........meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

The Who - "Wont Get Fooled Again"

Dick Cheney personally blew off the warnings on 9-11 and chose to focus on secret deals with Enron and Exxon, and missile defense, as well as a war on Iraq where the only winners are Halliburton and other friends of the Vice President who have looted tens of billions from the U.S. taxpayer.

--- Robert David STEELE Vivas, a career intelligence officer who went on to found the Marine Corps Intelligence Command and then the international Open Source Intelligence (OSINT) movement.

Mick beats George to suite

PRESIDENT George Bush can’t get no satisfaction — after Mick Jagger grabbed his hotel room.

The Rolling Stone splashed out £3,600 a night for the suite days before the US leader tried to book it.

Now Mick, 62, who has been a fierce critic of the Bush-led war in Iraq, is refusing to give it up.

The veteran rocker hired the luxury Royal Suite at the five-star Imperial Hotel in Vienna, Austria, for June when the Stones are due to play a gig in the city.

More HERE

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Long live rock and roll, eh?

capt

(re-post but on point)

Happy #194 from the last thread, (forgive me Caroline, Saladin, Capt, etc.) but Happy, how could you grow as old as you are and NOT know people can't be trusted w/o rules, especially those with wealth and power? Secret prisons in foreign countries are ok with you? Torture is a case by case judgment? What the HELL is wrong with your brain anyway? Without rules that apply to EVERYONE chaos encroaches. If this so-called government of ours is allowed to get away with 'secret prisons', well then, you and I, your kids, family and neighbors will be next. Get it?

You said, "Happy also says a quiet thank to God that liberals are NOT in power at this crtical time!" If you didn't have blinders on, for whatever reason that is, you'd see how wrong you are. To choose mayhem over civility is ignorant and deadly in the end. Kill, kill, kill is all people like you understand. Brutish strength. So manly.

This quote of yours from your next post #195 proves you're a Neanderthal dick. "Happy answers: Like most of you, I would like to hold onto `idealism' as long as possible. However, time and again on this blog, I have ID'd myself as a Realists (as are most people, Right or Left). In this dangerous world, Might very often makes right as WW I, WW II, Korean War, Cold War have amply proven. We were the Mightier and the rest is history..... *Happy thumps chest*

You need no forgiveness from me, on any issue, in any way.

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

~Dr. Seuss (1904 - 1991)

All of my blather about ignoring trolls is just so much piffle - maybe even worse than troll piffle! HA!

capt

I control myself, Capt, but every once in awhile I can't let something go. Happy is a Neanderthal without a doubt. He sees no other way out of anything except brute force. He's a jerk and not worth my typing at him. I prefer Pande to take care of him except WHEN I CAN'T CONTROL MYSELF!

I thought as a civilization we were getting past the "might makes right" mentality.

That really is the death of democracy. When might is right all people are subjects not citizens.

Makes me wonder where were all of the history teachers? (for these neocons)

capt

#4 Carol

He got to you didn't he. Don't read it. I profess to be fair, but after a while, sh^t, we have too much on our plate. I'm up late after reading to my boy. I just happened to catch this. No one need forgive you. You just want to go out and ****** them, don't you. I completely agree with Capt. as usual.

It's hard isn't it? All this restraint we must endure because we are the reasonable ones.

I'm going to have to steal this from you: Neaderthal dick.

I can't stop laughing.

Thanks for the info on doing italics and bold.

I still can't stop laughing.

Well, as is always the case, someone needs to be the adult and the trolls have dibs on the juvenile crud so . .

It has to be us, by default. *sigh*

capt

Capt. I like it. Carol, you've hit upon something.

NEANDERTHAL DICK, NEANDERTHAL DICK, NEANDERTHAL DICK. It's really priceless.

Meet Iraq's New Boss Same as the Old Boss

Politically, the new Prime Minister Jawad al-Maliki bears a close resemblance to the outgoing Ibrahim al-Jaafari

The announcement on Saturday that all key Iraqi factions have agreed on Jawad al-Maliki as an acceptable Shi'ite replacement for controversial prime minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari was greeted as a sign of hope for the cause of Iraqi democracy. But whatever their differences in personal style, Jaafari and his designated successor are cut from the same political cloth and they will face the same political obstacles that fueled Kurdish, Sunni and U.S. objections to Jaafari.

Maliki appears remarkably similar to the man for whom he effectively served as a spokesman for the past year. Like Jaafari, Maliki is a Shi'ite Islamist of the Dawa party who spent some of his exile in Iran (the rest was in Damascus, while Jaafari went to London); like Jaafari he owes his position to the backing of the radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr. Both men have been accused of having a sectarian outlook despite their public embrace of national unity; both are Iraqi nationalists who oppose the dismembering of Iraq into semi-autonomous mini states; both would also abide by the wishes of Iraq's leading Shi'ite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani, who helped pave the way for this deal.

More HERE

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*tips hat to Mr. James Ha!

capt

Please excuse my shifting gears. The music that I enjoy are from Nat King Cole, Tony Bennett, and Frank Sinatra.

Shifting Realities

The Bush Family Are Experts in Garbage and Garbage Collecting

Sun's New Boss: The Same as the Old Boss?

New CEO Jonathan Schwartz says the company is on the right track as he succeeds Scott McNealy. But investors hoping for big changes may be disappointed

On the day Scott G. McNealy stepped down as chief executive of Sun Microsystems, the company's stock shot up 7.4% in extended trading, reaching its highest level in a year. But there was no evidence the nod of disapproval made even the slightest dent on McNealy's self-esteem. "This was my decision, and it was supported by the board," McNealy said on a conference call discussing executive changes that include naming Jonathan Schwartz as CEO. "The timing fit me to a T."

Turns out McNealy's prickly self-confidence has truly taken root at Sun (SUNW ), the company he co-founded in 1984 and made him a household name in tech circles. All signs suggest that the company has no plans to make any of the drastic changes that investors seem to be clamoring for. Since the company's sickening fall from grace in 2001, McNealy's valiant efforts to restore growth and profit without slashing spending on R&D have failed to pay off for shareholders.

More HERE

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Maybe the good Mr. Ha has started some kind of weird cosmic convergence.

capt

I know that Seeger and Springsteen are popular singers but for me an exciting Saturday evening is watching wallpaint dry.

Why Bush Is Going Nuclear

Cosmic convergence. Let us hope the spirits are looking down to guide us through this mess. I assume you all know that Mary McCarthy (fired CIA agent) has professed total innocence. This is so interesting. Could it be that Mr. Porter (Goss) just wants a scapegoat to satisfy the wolves? It truly sounds like maybe this is the case.

Link

I have to go to bed. In the morning, shall we?

Meet the new boss, much like the old boss

BAGHDAD, Iraq -- Jawad al-Maliki, who emerged Friday as Iraq's probable new prime minister, is a longtime Shiite Islamist who spent the years of Saddam Hussein's rule exiled in Iran and Syria. He publicly has accused Sunni politicians of being in league with insurgents and forcefully condemned any suggestion that the government negotiate with rebel Sunni Arab groups.

He has relished his role as a vocal proponent of de-Baathification. Mishaan Jabouri, a Sunni legislator now wanted on corruption charges, once accused al-Maliki of threatening to dispatch a team of assassins against him.

In terms of ideology and personal history, al-Maliki and interim Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari appear to be carbon copies. Both men are in their 50s and hail from the Shiite shrine city of Karbala. Both were idealistic and pious Shiite opponents of Iraq's Sunni Arab rulers and the Baath Party. They became underground members of the Dawa Party. Both fled to exile in Iran after Saddam came to power.

More HERE

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Now they are just doing it on purpose! HA!

capt

The Iraq war is getting expensive

There's a short interview of Neil Young outside the recording company on Crooks.

The Busheviks' Great Leap Forward

Capt, somebody slammed Juan Cole and he brushes it one off with facts.

Indeed, I know how to fix this Rightwing smear machine that has revved up against me. We'll make a rule that they can't criticize me unless they read my scholarly works first.

That link above is to his impressive list of accomplishments, which I thought was worth a post. The whole 'slammed' post is here.

Juan Cole is a daily stop for me, I also subscribe to his email updates.

He is smart and well connected and he has a unique POV.

capt

Caboose

Dear Cornposters:

There are people who say that I hate Bushitler. I do not hate Bushitler. I do not hate any person. If I hated a person, I would wish that person eternal damnation. I do not want for any person an eternity in hell.

Bushitler could have a great president if he was a compassionate conservative. Now Bushitler is the worst president in the history of the United States of America.

When they were passing out brains, Bushitler thought they meant brains and he kept looking for the caboose.

Sincerely,

Gerald

Caboose

Dear Cornposters:

There are people who say that I hate Bushitler. I do not hate Bushitler. I do not hate any person. If I hated a person, I would wish that person eternal damnation. I do not want for any person an eternity in hell.

Bushitler could have a great president if he was a compassionate conservative. Now Bushitler is the worst president in the history of the United States of America.

When they were passing out brains, Bushitler thought they meant brains and he kept looking for the caboose.

Sincerely,

Gerald

"There is nothing serious about reading what you write. Capt gets less biased info from the Simpsons than what you post."

Biased? More wisdom from Mr. Head in the ground. News from the BLS, OMB and the Federal Reserve don't merit reading? Suit yerself, stay ignorant.

"Go ahead and keep up the corn-nut lies if it makes you feel good about yourself."

Someday. Maybe someday. You might catch me being inaccurate. It takes a real conservative to tell lies, though.

"I understand that you need something to hold onto since the economy is soooo bad and all those middle and lower class people are getting soooo screwed by Bush."
"I understand that you're pissed about not getting your cut of the free government handouts."

This is why I like having you around. You are the prototypical Bushbot. All talk. Zero Facts. It helps people understand how (as BobinND said) just as many folks believe that Bush is doing a good job as believe that Elvis is still alive. Idiotarians on the right abound.

"I understand you're frustrated that unemployment is at an all time low."

Another good example of the fact that you don't know how to read. I've already linked the graphs to the BLS showing the relationship of the unemployment rate to the Labor Participation rate. Can you explain to us the difference between the two figures and why the Labor Participation rate shows you are lying with numbers? Right. LOL.

"I understand that you're pissed the Dems are to imcompetent to get anything done or stand for an issue."

Mr. Bush blamed the deadlock on immigration on the Dem leadership. There you go calling the president a moron again. You just make our points for us. Thanks!

And there's another example of you taking both sides of an argument. Either they are too weak to oppose or they block stuff like SS reform and immigration reform (or immagration reform, as you like to call it). Conservative lesson in rhetoric: take both side of an argument so you can't lose. Stoooopid.

"I understand that you're frustrated that Libby was the only one indicted and that's even falling apart."

From the Libby indictment has come many an interesting revelation and change. From the demotion of Rove to the fact that Mr. Bush was involved in outing Valerie Plame (which he promised to fire anyone involved, yet was legal to do). Yep. You win. Bush is a moron. The slowroasting of Rove alone has provided weeks and months of hilarity.

"I understand that you're frustrated Mollohan was forced from the Ethics committee for ethics violations, of all things."

Frustrated that a Dem would do the honorable thing? LOL. Meanwhile, Republicans named in the Abramoff indictments get promotions. Breaking the law has its benefits in the GOP Mafia. Culture. Of. Corruption.

"I understand that you're frustrated that the Dems still don't have an agenda 4 months later."

Wherever you copied that talking point from, it's missing its time referent. 4 months from what? Talk to Duke Cunningham's family and see if they'll lend you some of the money he embezzled so that you can buy a fookin' clue.

"I understand that you're frustrated Clintons cronie CIA leaker got caught."

Got caught telling the truth? Imagine that. I can hear the gears in your brain squealing from the effort.

"It's been a bad year so far for ya Pande, I do understand!!!"
Posted by: LBH at April 24, 2006 07:34 PM

You need facts to make an argument, otherwise it becomes obvious to everyone that you are blowing smoke-rings out of your ass. Ask Mr. 32%. 2006 has certainly been historic.

They complain about Bush being above the law when they themselves aspire to be above the law as individuals in a totally free society without any penalty. Which has earned the award of hpyo-corns."
Posted by: LBH at April 24, 2006 07:11 PM

You're confused again. You must be thinking about Ney, Doolittle, Burns, DeLay, Cunningham, Harris and all the other lawbreakers in the Grand Ol' Lynchin' Party. Hpyo-corns? What's in your hashpipe?

#93 from the previous thread, I am always highly entertained by somebody trying to discuss the merits of defending the state of Israel while spelling it (multiple time) I-S-R-E-A-L.

"I'm just curious why you would support terrorist organizations that treat women as 2nd class citizens?"
Posted by: LBH at April 24, 2006 06:58 PM

Me too. Holding hands, no less.

"This was the first step by the Black caucas to begin legislation on paying every black person a government check (reparations) for being a family memeber of slavery.This would bankrupt the US and is not a realistic option. Hell, next the Mexicans would be asking for reparations for taking Texas from them. Want a stab at it?"
Posted by: LBH at April 24, 2006 08:11 PM

Right, and the Americans with Disabilities Act was the first step in dimwits like you asking for reparations for being so ignorant. You crack me up sometimes, dude.

"Now you want to go back to 1950 and bring in Ronald Reagan do defend your boy Clinton? Why can't you just use his record?"

His record? Here's part of it. Here's another part. Here's another.

"Because we both know it was Newt and not your boy Clinton who deserves the credit for the economy in the 1990's."
Posted by: LBH at April 24, 2006 05:51 PM

Right. And Bill Frist cured Terri Schiavo. And Field Marshall von Rumsfeld has stopped the insurgency in Iraq. And gas is only $1.20 a gallon.
1) put down the crack pipe
2) run as far away from it as you possibly can
3) get help. Soon.

Please don't ever leave, LBH. Without goobers like you to kick around. I'd get bored.

James 2, he must be a terrorist loving librul!
Carol 4, I think all of us have, from time to time, gone off on trolls for making a statement that struck us as particularly idiotic. I think for the most part we do pretty good at ignoring them, just as they deserve.
Alan from the previous thread, Saladin was supposed to be the barbarian and Richard the Christian. Today it's the same shit, different "christian" tyrants.
Maybe Springsteen and Young could run a presidential ticket?

26 OHH! What a severe ass-kicking! Pande, take it easy on the poor bastard. The troll wont be sitting at his desk today.

32% approval. Now taking bets on the next Al Qaeda tape. Will it be 1)Bin Laden...2)Al Zawahiri...3)Some other Al Qaeda crony

Tony Snow to accept the WH offer (link)
@Crooks & Liars

But Bush never lied! NEVER I tell you!

HA!

capt

Great piece David.

Springsteen has certainly been doing his part trying to get the 40-60 somethings off their asses, to vote for Kerry, to protest this war. Maybe, maybe Springsteen's new album will remind those who are busy filling their gas tanks, going to yoga weekends, hanging out with the guys, taking kids to soccer, driving to the mall, mowing their lawns, driving around with their foot on the pedal and with their heads in the clouds about this war of choice. Maybe this will remind them that they are responsible for what the U.s. military and their government is busy doing around the world.

If every person who is against this war got off their asses and marched or decided to get arrested in New York this weekend (United for Peace and Justice), this would say to the world we care, we are alive and attempting to stop these psychopaths in the White HOuse or out (Douglas Feith, James Woolsey, Reul Marc Gercht, Richard Perle) who pushed and lied for this invasion and are doing the same in regard to Iran.

If every american stared at the pictures of the tens of thousands of Iraqi people who have been murdered as a direct result of our countries invasion of Iraq, maybe they would feel something. Maybe. The most frightening part is maybe they would not.

If every american against this war wrote, called, lobbied, responded in some way instead of staying in their collective bubble things would change...fast.

Springsteen is certainly doing his part.

I keep thinking about Seeger changing the words to "Where have all the flowers gone"....."where has all the money gone, long time passing where did the surplus go long time ago". We know it did not go to social security, health care, access to a higher education or funding the No Child Left Behind program. No it was spent to kill folks in Iraq, to send american soldiers into a quagmire based on lies...That money went to defense companies

Where have all the young men gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the young men gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the young men gone?
Gone for soldiers every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

Where have all the soldiers gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the soldiers gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the soldiers gone?
Gone to graveyards every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

The Diane Rehms show at 10 a.m est will be having Generals on who are asking for Rumsfeld's resignation. 800-433-8850...drshow@wamu.org. Send in your questions

Is this the time that the wheels are finally going to come off of the bush crime family machine? Please tell me so, I have waited for the world and the US to wake up. Finally when gas hits over three bucks a gallon people are starting to wake up and look for their representatives and get some real answers. Instead of talking points. Let's hope. Way to go Pande you rock, kicking that trolls butt is a way to wake up. LBH and Happy are both delusional slugs and I really like your treatment of them. No defense against intellect. Thanks again.

Bruce Bruce Bruce --- like the drunken Jersey boys will dig this new disc .... Hey Bruce the writing juices dried up ----][------...
He was too tired to make it, she was to tired to fight it --- Don Henley

Bruce Bruce Bruce --- like the drunken Jersey boys will dig this new disc .... Hey Bruce the writing juices dried up ----][------
He was too tired to make it, she was to tired to fight it --- Don Henley

David Corn's review of Springsteen latest studio effort describes a result, an album, which is more interesting than I expected. Springsteen didn't play between the lines of folk music form; he used every musical form and wove them together in novel ways, which is what great musicians do; cover new ground - or old ground in new ways.

My cynical opinion (on a prior thread) was that cover albums, say Springsteen covers Pete Seeger, are rarely if ever as good as the original form and homage is weak inspiration. But Springsteen took the inspiration of Seegers folk music and worked it into an album that uses a broad canvas of musical form and drives forward in ways not done before. I will reserve my apology until after I have a listen but I'm already drafting it in my head.

Great post David. Thank you.

Pan is awesome, too bad it's all falling on deaf troll ears.

Time of war has proven to be the best music producer, sadly without a conflict music is somehow without passion. I look forward to hearing Bruce and Neil belting out their passion on their latest CD's. Anybody old enough to have lived through the sixties and the incredible music then knows what I mean.

34 kathleen. I don't think the generals are on today, it's:

10:00 Medicare Drug Benefit - A panel discusses who is benefiting from Medicare's new drug plan, who isn't and why.

40 Lyin... cheatin... hurtin... that's all you ever do
messin' around with every guy in town
puttin' me down

Seeger has been long since usurped by the Zimmerman kid from Minnesota! IF Springsteen really wants to pay homage to folk music, get a harmonica holder and Dylan it.

A King in Check
UPADHYAY | NYT OPED | 4/25/06

NEPALIS weren't fooled. Although King Gyanendra announced last week that after a year of "safekeeping" democracy, he was willing to return power to the people, they continued to march: 300,000 Nepalis in the streets of Katmandu on Saturday. It was only yesterday, when Gyanendra announced that he would restore the Parliament, that the protesters were placated.

(link)

IMO, one of the very best interpretations of Shenandoah was sung by the Men of the Robert Shaw Chorale -- the perfect rhythmic accompaniment for hard manual labor.

The Doors Of Perception: Why Americans Will
Believe Almost Anything. Or, How to create a bushbot in 100 easy steps.

By Tim O'Shea
www.thedoctorwithin.com

...We are the most conditioned, programmed beings the world has ever known. Not only are our thoughts and attitudes continually being shaped and molded; our very awareness of the whole design seems like it is being subtly and inexorably erased. The doors of our perception are carefully and precisely regulated. Who cares, right?

It is an exhausting and endless task to keep explaining to people how most issues of conventional wisdom are scientifically implanted in the public consciousness by a thousand media clips per day. In an effort to save time, I would like to provide just a little background on the handling of information in this country. Once the basic principles are illustrated about how our current system of media control arose historically, the reader might be more apt to question any given popular opinion.

If everybody believes something, it's probably wrong. We call that

Conventional Wisdom.

In America, conventional wisdom that has mass acceptance is usually contrived: somebody paid for it.

Examples:

Of course Springsteen paid homage to a man he respected. And what a better time. I listened to bits on Barnes and Noble. Good CD. Of course 'Shenandoah' just about killed me. It always does.

SHENANDOAH

The origins of "Shenandoah," perhaps one of America's most recognizable folk tunes, are not so easily deciphered. Like many folk songs, it is impossible to determine exactly when the song was composed, yet the song probably did not originate later than the Civil War. In any case, by the end of the nineteenth century, "Shenandoah" had achieved widespread popularity, both on land and at sea.

American folklorist Alan Lomax suggested that "Shenandoah" was a sea-shanty and that its "composers" quite possibly were French-Canadian voyageurs. Sea-shanties were work songs used by sailors to coordinate the efforts of completing chores such as raising the ship's anchor or hauling ropes. The formal structure of a shanty is simple: it consists of a solo lead that alternates with a boisterous chorus. With the sweeping melodic line of its familiar refrain, "Shenandoah" is the very nature of a sea-shanty; indeed, the song's first appearance in print was in an article by William L. Alden, titled "Sailor Songs," published in Harper's New Monthly Magazine in 1882.

As unclear as the song's origin is, so is the definitive interpretation of its text. Some believe that the song refers to the river of the same name. Others suggest that it is of African-American origin, for it tells the tale of Sally, the daughter of the Indian Chief Shenandoah, who is courted for seven years by a white Missouri river trader. Regardless of these textual discrepancies, "Shenandoah" remains an American classic.

43 Dylan bowed out of folk music at the Newport Folk Festival playing Like Rolling Stone and I Aint Gonna Work on Maggie's Farm No More. Part of the message was that he was not in music as a means to an end - for social and political change. Seeger and the folk crowd were high-minded in associating the folk music form with ideas about empowering the people and facilitating social change.

How does it feel? To be on your own? A complete unknown? Like a rolling stone? No direction home?

Dylan was asking fellow folk musicians these questions (and implied statements) thereby punching holes in the folk music construct and its values of community and the power of the common man and his righteous cause for social and political change.

Dylan was a self-proclaimed song and dance guy. He resisted, in every interview, attempts to associate his music with a social cause.

Dylan seperated himself from the folk movement. He wanted to Rock. Long live rock, everyday!

96% think Iraq is one of the top ten worst presidential mistakes in American history.

Do the trolls have something they're not telling us or, are they part of the elite 4 percent?

Thankfully, only 4% of you say that your time spent blogging has "significantly" or "moderately" affected your relationship/marriage in a negative way.

We love our Russ.

Feingold/Clark is the #1-preferred Pres/Veep combo (34%)

Bob Dylan - Shenandoah

Oh, Shenandoah, I long to hear you
Look away, you rollin' river
Oh, Shenandoah, I long to hear
Look away, we're bound away
Across the wide Missouri.

Now the Missouri is a mighty river
Look away, you rollin' river
Indians camp a long her border
Look away, we're bound away
Across the wide Missouri.

Well, a white man loved an Indian maiden
Look away, you rollin' river
With notions his canoe was laden
Look away, we're bound away
Across the wide Missouri.

Shenandoah, I love your daughter
Look away, you rollin' river
It was for her I'd cross the water
Look away, we're bound away
Across the wide Missouri.

For seven long years I courted Sally
Look away, you rollin' river
Seven more years I longed to have her
Look away, we're bound away
Across the wide Missouri.

Well, it's fare-thee-well, my dear, I'm bound to leave you
Look away, you rollin' river
Shenandoah, I will not deceive you
Look away, we're bound away
Across the wide Missouri.
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Sorry, I just love this song.

#41 O'Reilly not sure what happenned to the Generals, it was announced this morning that they would be on Rehm's today. I checked for 11, and it is not there either. Maybe wednesday on the TBA (to be announced spot.)

Tonight on Frontline a one hour piece on the Insurgency in Iraq..looks good.

O'Reilly and I think Capt or Robert. This weekend you had the same experiecne that I did with trying to post comments. The blue background and no way to remove it or move on. I was house sitting a friends house here in Athens and now their computer at least the Corn link is stuck on that blue page when one attemptst to go on the Corn site. I am on a university computer now and there is no problem.

Any suggesstions as how to get rid of that blue page on my friends computer?

Ah, Mrs. McGrath, the Sargent said,
Would you like to make a soldier out of your son Ted?

Ole'Pete did sing songs that the audience could play in their homes and indeed, sing-along with him in concert.

But, few of us, and I'm a fair picker [guitar] myself, could match Pete's virtuosity on the banjo and voice. Listen to some of the early recordings. His siblings were also very gifted musicians.

I would more strongly emphasize the political content in the songs described as story-telling songs, John Henry and Jesse James; especially in the light of the labor struggle which Pete was such a part of. Get Thee Behind Me Satan!

Thanks David, and Bruce, and PETE!

Bush Orders Gas Price Probe, Like Democrats Demanded
georgia10 | dailyKOS | 4/25/06

The AP is reporting that President Bush has ordered the Justice and Energy Departments to "open inquiries into possible cheating in the gasoline markets." The article continues:

House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., urged Bush in a letter Monday to order a federal investigation into any gasoline price gouging or market speculation.

Notice anything missing? No mention anywhere in the article of the fact that Democratic Senator Chuck Schumer called for an investigation a week ago. Last week, it was Democrats who stood up and demanded a responsible energy policy and energy independence. When Republicans realized that Democrats were not only taking a stand, but that Bush's numbers were taking a hit because of rising gas prices, only then did they make some noise on the issue.

read on (link)

HOW WE GOT TO HERE -- > PNAC 101 - Rise Of The Neocons

From: Democratic Underground

June 1997 - The Project for a New American Century (PNAC) was born. Populated by influential Movers of industry and Shakers of public opinion, the PNAC is an organization united in the vision for a global U.S. empire - "Pax Americana" - through coercion and military domination. Their philosophy can be simply summarized:

There are countries to plunder and fortunes to be made. You have it, we want it. Do as we say or suffer the consequences.

The U.S. already has a powerful military but we plan to nurture and grow it until it's massive and we are indominable. Resistance is futile. We are.......

Dick Cheney, Jeb Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Steve Forbes, William J. Bennett, Frank Gaffney, and I. Lewis ("Scooter") Libby, signator's - among others - of the PNAC's "Statement of Principles".

"We need to...challenge regimes hostile to our interests and values."

"We need to increase defense spending significantly if we are to carry out our global responsibilities today and modernize our armed forces for the future."

"It is important to shape circumstances before crises emerge."
------------
If only we had some kind of catalyzing event, like a new Pearl Harbor!

REGIME CHANGE MOVING DOWN THE NEO-CON TRACKS..LET'S HOPE THESE SPECIAL OPS ARE DERAILED

Apr 25, 2006
Tehran insider tells of US black ops
By an Asia Times Online Special Correspondent

TEHRAN - A former Iranian ambassador and Islamic Republic insider has provided intriguing details to Asia Times Online about US covert operations inside Iran aimed at destabilizing the country and toppling the regime - or preparing for an American attack.

"The Iranian government knows and is aware of such infiltration. It means that the Iranian government has identified them [the covert operatives] but for some reason does not want to show [this]," said the former diplomat on condition of anonymity.

Speaking in Tehran, the ex-Foreign Ministry official said the agents being used by the US "were originally Iranians and not Americans" possibly recruited in the United States or through US embassies in Dubai and Ankara. He also warned that such actions will engender "some reactions".

At asia times

kathleen, What we noticed this weekend was a problem I presume was occuring on the DavidCorn.com webserver. In addition to the dark blue and light blue horizontal stripe background, there was a cryptic text message along the left side of the screen which showed problems (errors) executing the script that displays the thread (ftp, file name, etc)when you go to it. Its hard for me to imagine your friend is having the same problem now that we were having then (but of course, my assumptions could be wrong.) Anyway, the details of what is diaplyed on her screen and what happend when she hits the refresh button or restarts her brower and goes to the davidcorn.com website might help someone diagnose the problem remotely.

Sean Hannity and Senator Joe Lieberman have something of a symbiotic relationship. Lieberman, the GOP's favorite Democrat, goes on Hannity's radio show and bashes Democrats (thus, Hannity is happy). Lieberman, in turn, gets something out of it too. Calling in to Hannity's right-wing circus show is a form of therapy for ol' Joe, a place where he can vent about mean Democrats and seek solace in the comforting verbal embrace of a Republican who ensures him that nothing is wrong with poor Joe Lieberman--it's the Democratic Party that's out of wack.

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Just one more part to my history lesson and then I promise I'll stop. From my post #47
"American folklorist Alan Lomax suggested that "Shenandoah" was a sea-shanty and that its "composers" quite possibly were French-Canadian voyageurs."

I don't know about this part of the history but the voyageurs had a very interesting history. One of my areas of concentration when I was getting my history degree was MN history.

Voyageurs

Voyageur is the French word for traveler. But in the Fur Trade Era, it referred to a group of men employed by the various companies who acted as canoe paddlers, bundle carriers, and general laborers. The voyageurs were often referred to as engages. Though it is true that the majority of voyageurs were French or French/Canadian, there were those who were British, German, African, Russian and persons of all the Native Tribes with which the company did business. Many in the beginning of the fur trade were Iroquois and Ottawa.

The strength and endurance of the voyageurs was legendary. It was expected that each voyageur work at least 14 hours a day, paddle 55 strokes per minute and be able to carry two bundles across each portage between the lakes and rivers of the north woods. A bundle generally consisted of beaver pelts or other furs weighing about 90 lbs. on the way to Montreal, or 90 lbs. of trade goods coming from Montreal. A routine portage meant carrying 180 pounds across rugged terrain full of rocks, mud, mosquitoes and black flies. At approximately every 1/2 mile the voyageurs had a pose where the packs were set down and they ran back to get 2 more. They also had the "privilege" of carrying the bourgeois (or gentleman) in or out of the canoe since it was unacceptable for a gentlemen to get his feet or clothes wet!
There were two classes of voyageurs: the mangeurs de lard (pork eaters) and the hivernants (winterers). The pork eaters paddled from Montreal to Grand Portage for the rendezvous and back. The winterers paddled from the interior to Grand Portage for the rendezvous and back. In the two classes of voyageurs you have three types, the avant (bowsman), gouvernail (steersman) and the milieux (middle man). Because of the skill and experience required, the bowsman and steersman were paid twice the rate of the middle man.

Voyageurs were fond of games. They liked to play La cross and cat and mouse when they got the chance and, of course, to sing.
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Grand Portage is on Lake Superior in Minnesota. The voyageurs were little guys. Less weight in the boats. Look at the weight they were forced to carry. Not many survived the grueling work. Most died young.
I could write about the Red River Ox Carts but I will spare you. Or the steamboats. I'll spare you.

Test blast in Nevada: A nuclear rehearsal
Pentagon apparently looks for an optimal size of a 'bunker buster'
By Robert Gehrke
The Salt Lake Tribune

Correction: Stories on April 6, 7 and 13 about the Divine Strake test at Nevada Test Site incorrectly reported that the explosion planned for June 2 will be five times larger than the largest conventional weapon in the U.S. arsenal. The explosion actually will be nearly 50 times bigger.

WASHINGTON - A powerful blast scheduled at the Nevada Test Site in June is designed to help war planners figure out the smallest nuclear weapon able to destroy underground targets. And it has caused a concern that it signals a renewed push toward tactical nuclear weapons.

The detonation, called Divine Strake, is intended to "develop a planning tool to improve the warfighter's confidence in selecting the smallest proper nuclear yield necessary to destroy underground facilities while minimizing collateral damage," according to Defense Department budget documents.

More.

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It is abhorent to assign any Devine appelation to an instrument of war; this should offend any sincerely religious person of any persuasion, as well as everybody else.

But, Strake sent me to the dictionary, which left me as confused as I am offended:

Main Entry: strake
Pronunciation: 'strAk
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English; akin to Old English streccan to stretch -- more at STRETCH
1 : a continuous band of hull planking or plates on a ship; also : the width of such a band
2 : STREAK, STRIPE

From 1935 to 1980, America was number one in the technology, medicine, education, military, culture, societal contracts, business development, charity, foreign relations, and so much more. The entire world, including our enemies, envied us. And for good reason: we were successful, smart, and generous.

Then came the Reagan reaction followed by a string of conservative presidencies and a disastrous new American agenda. An agenda that has seen us fall from being the world's leading power to a marginally regional power.

USA Ranked #4 and this is AMAZINGLY GOOD NEWS! (link)

From WRH

Touching the third rail
U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III and prosecutors were running into an invisible buzzsaw of pressure for a dismissal motion. Ellis authorized defense subpoenas for calling Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Undersecretary of State R. Nicholas Burns, two ranking officials Rosen claims also shared classified information. Ellis then postponed the trial from May 17 to early August -- when most chattering class cognoscente will be on vacation and a motion to dismiss will hardly be noticed.
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I didn't link the article because it's mostly about the history of the US and Israel. Those interested can go to the WRH site and click on that link. It seems ellis is determined to make a molehill out of a mountain.

Tony Snow: Journalist! Truth-teller?

wILL WE BE SEEING NEW PHOTOS OF "ALLEGED" IRANIAN NUCLEAR DEVELOPMENTS SUPPLIED BY ISRAEL AND PRESENTED AT THE UN...SOON?

Israeli spy satellite to monitor Iranian nuclear programme
25/04/2006 - 07:14:28

Israel is to launch a spy satellite today to collect information on Iran’≥ nuclear programme.

The Eros B satellite is capable of spotting images on the ground as small as 70 centimetres, the Israeli daily newspaper Yediot Ahronot reported.

The satellite, a more sophisticated version of the Eros A that is currently in space, will be launched in Russia.

җe are talking about an extraordinary capability that will allow intelligence officials to follow small details in sensitive places,ӠYediot quoted an unnamed Israeli expert as saying.

Ҕhis camera has a sharp eye that sees everything.ӊ

60 thx Jeanne.

US Housing Secretary says "only the best" should return to New Orleans housing complex

U.S. Housing Secretary Alphonso Jackson shed little light Monday on the future of public housing in hurricane-battered New Orleans, but said that "only the best residents" of the former St. Thomas housing complex should be allowed into the new mixed-income development that replaced it, according to the information-restricted NOLA.com newslog. Excerpts:

"Some of the people shouldn't return," Jackson said. "The (public housing) developments were gang-ridden by some of the most notorious gangs in this country. People hid and took care of those persons because they took care of them. Only the best residents should return. Those who paid rent on time, those who held a job and those who worked."

The blunt-spoken Jackson, who is black, acknowledged his comments might be seen as racially offensive because virtually all of the former St. Thomas residents were African-American. He told a white reporter, "If you said this, they would say you were racist."

He went on to say, "I don't care what color they are, if they are devastating a community, they shouldn't be allowed to return."
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Mr. Jackson,
All the cities who have those undesireables now thank you for your generosity.

Now the american public will be getting even more SNOW JOBS coming from the White House. Oh how we long for the days of Blow jobs.

Illinois state lawmaker sees another route to impeachment

An Illinois lawmaker finds a never-used rule of the U.S. House of Representatives that requires them to launch impeachment investigations if both houses of a state legislature pass a resolution seeking one. Hat tip to Truthout for leading me to this one.

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1,000 Iraqis at Risk of Nuclear Contamination, Says IAEA

Bush Sinks To 24% In State Poll
Approval Rating Reflects Iraq And Other Issues
April 25, 2006
By DAVID LIGHTMAN, Washington Bureau Chief WASHINGTON -- President Bush's job approval rating in Connecticut plunged to a record-low 24 percent this month, one of the most dismal showings in the nation - and a number the president could find difficult to reverse anytime soon.

"I think he's in real trouble, at least until the November election," said Samuel Best, director of the University of Connecticut's Center for Survey Research and Analysis.
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That number sounds far more realistic. Losing half your support in 18 months has got to be some kind of record!

Mary McCarthy denies she was source for WaPo story
Administration accusations are not the same as guilt
Greenwald | Unclaimed Territory | 4/24/06

Check out this cool video of thermite in action.

It's short so even I, with my crappy connection, was able to watch it.

Saladin pressure should be put on Ellis from those who want the truth. He should be dismissed from the AIPAC case. I have read that McNulty and Fitzgerad are working behind the scenes on this case because of the overlap of those who outed Plame and their involvement with Aipac ( Libby, Judy Miller, Kenneth Pollack). I think he is the same judge to dismiss Sibel Edmonds case and attempt to shut her up.

AIPAC must have something big on Ellis, or digging hard.

Now that Newsweek has slowed the Mary McCarthy lynch mob with its story that Mary emphatically denies she was the source of the leak, it is worth considering whether there are good leaks or nothing but bad leaks.

Between Conscience and Unconscionable
Larry Johnson | TPM Cafe | 4/24/06 | [LINK]

73 Great Thermite video. Was there molten metal under WTC1/2? Is thermite used in controlled demolition?

When you are going backwards, perhaps it is useful to look at where you have been. And with that in mind, and as we are coming up on May Day, and further as we are involved in a painful, divisive immigration debate, I've been doing a lot of reading on labor history, of late.

You know, I don't think the Wush spent much time talking about what happens to labor organizers in China to President Hu. Why not? And why isn't this an issue that gets any attention in the press?

How many of us are aware of the struggles that were fought, literaly not figuritively, for the 8 hour day, the 40 hour week, the right to collective bargaining, and fair working conditions.

How many of us are aware that the masters of industry in the 1930's were enthusiatic supporters of Hitler and Facsism because of his violent break-up of the German trade unions?

How many of us are aware, as we see the new Mexican immigrants being used as cheap labor against the more established communities, that ethnic divisiveness has been historically used to pit one group against another to drive down wages?

How many of us are aware of how many times the police and national guard have been employed by the bosses to violently attack striking picketers?

AND WHY NOT?

NYC Union Chief Roger Toussaint Remains Defiant Hours Before Heading to Jail for Leading Transit Strike - Democracy Now!

Sen. Pat Roberts, who chairs the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, said he wants to divide his panel's inquiry into the Bush administration's handling of Iraq-related intelligence into two parts, a move that would push off its most politically controversial elements to a later time.

Phase II Intelligence "Investigation" Manipulated, Again
georgia10 | dailyKOS | 4/25/06

Democrats should acknowledge that the Intelligence Committee is a failure and incapable of conducting an unbiased and timely investigation. They should call for an independent commission to examine the evidence and determine whether the intelligence was manipulated. Enough of the games, enough of the capitulation.

Call, fax, or email Senator Rockefeller and kindly (1) remind him that the Phase II investigation is long overdue; and (2) he's a Democrat that should be calling for accountability, not aiding in stonewalling the inquiry.

Senator Rockefeller
Phone: (202) 224-6472
Fax: (202) 224-7665
Email: rockefeller.senate.gov/services/email.cfm

O'Reilly, there was molten iron found in the sub-basements of ALL 3 of the WTC's that collapsed, 70 feet below the street, still hot 6 weeks later, according to the demo guys cleaning up. I don't know if it is normally used for demolishing buildings, but it definitely was in the case of the WTC's. Dr. Jones made an interesting observation in that thermite has no tag with which to identify the source like regular explosives do, that is probably why it was chosen for this particular job.

Presidential counselor Dan Bartlett wrote: "The President's convictions about Saddam Hussein's possession of WMD were based on the collective judgment of the intelligence community at that time. Bipartisan investigations . . . found no evidence of political pressure to influence the pre-war intelligence assessments of Iraq's weapons programs."

But the issue is not whether the White House influenced the intelligence assessments. The issue is whether the White House knowingly cherry-picked the intelligence to make a misleading case for war. And the evidence continues to mount that it did.

The White House-chartered Silberman-Robb commission did report that it found no overt signs of White House pressure on the intelligence community to change their intelligence findings. (See my March 31, 2005 and April 1, 2005 columns.)

But the commission overtly avoided the question of whether the findings were politicized: "There is a separate issue of how policymakers used the intelligence they were given and how they reflected it in their presentations to Congress and the public. That issue is not within our charter and we therefore did not consider it nor do we express a view on it."

Similarly, the Senate intelligence committee chose to put that issue off until after the election -- and it's still not clear how they intend to address it.

But how is it possible that neither investigation even alluded to the evidence that the White House cherry-picked and politicized the intelligence?

Blogger Josh Marshall called Drumheller and found out he was interviewed by the White House commission three times.

"Did he tell them everything he revealed on tonight's 60 Minutes segment. Absolutely.

"Drumheller was also interviewed twice by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (the Roberts Committee) but apparently only after they released their summer 2004 report.

"Now, quite a few of us have been arguing for almost two years now that those reports were fundamentally dishonest in the story they told about why we were so badly misled in the lead up to war. The fact that none of Drumheller's story managed to find its way into those reports, I think, speaks volumes about the agenda that the writers of those reports were pursuing."

Froomkin (link)

Thanks for the link and suggesstion O'Reilly. Senator Pat Roberts should be forced to step down, he has done everything in his power to delay and interfere with the thoroughness of Phase II of the SSCI.

FOLKS SHOULD CALL SENATOR PAT ROBERTS OFFICE ALSO.

Kevin Zeese: ҈awkish Israeli Lobby Wants War with Iran!Ӂuthor
25 Apr 2006 10:01:19 AM

The Israeli Lobby, with others, helped to instigate the Iraqi War. A scholarly report, the ҈arvard Study,Ӡwhich was recently released, also documents the ҵnmatched powerӠof the Lobby over the national interest. Now, the Bush-Cheney Gang is targeting Iran for a pre-empted strike. Is the hawkish, hard right, pro-Israeli Lobby pushing for a war with Iran, too? Kevin Zeese, an independent candidate for U.S. Senate In MD, thinks that it is.
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ғo likewise ԡ passionate attachmentՠof one nation for another produces a variety of evils...Ӡ- George Washingtonճ ҆arewell Address,ӠSeptember 19, 1796

Washington, D.C. - Kevin Zeese was the first speaker at a public forum held on Monday evening, April 24, 2006, at the West End Neighborhood Library, near the community of Georgetown. The topic for the event was, ҉s the Israel Lobby Promoting War on Iran?ӠHe said the question of whether the hawkish, hard-right, pro-Israeli Lobby in America wants to see war with Iran ҧets answered in an ad which was in the New York Times, the Financial Times, and other newspapers. Itճ a full page ad by the American Jewish Committee, put out on April 4th. The center of the bullճ eye is Iran and the headline is: ԃan Anyone Within Range of Iranճ Missiles Feel Safe?ՠI think thatճ a pretty inflammatory ad. Itճ signed by more than a hundred people...I think itճ a pretty strong indication of where the Lobby stands. That isnմ the only proof we have that the hawkish Israeli Lobby wants to go to war.ӊ
Zeese is the director of DemocracyRising.U.S., an organization working to end the Iraqi War and the Occupation. He was also an ex-press secretary for Ralph Nader in 2004. Presently, Zeese is an independent candidate for the U.S. Senate in Maryland, who is looking to bring together, in a voting block, the combined electoral efforts of the Green, Populist and Libertarian Parties. (1)

The DC Anti-War Network (DAWN) presented the evening program. (2) David Kirshbaum and Carol Moore of DAWN acted as co-moderators for the event and did a splendid job. Other speakers were Simin Royanian and Alex Patico. Alex is a U.S. coordinator of the multi-country ҃ampaign Against Sanctions and Military Intervention in Iran.ӠMs. Royanian is an economist and the cofounder of the җomen for Peace and Justice in Iran.Ӡ

Ms. Royanian, in her remarks, pointed to U.S. ҭilitarism and imperialismӠas being the root of the problem of injustice around the world and in the Middle East as well, and as posing the main threat to Iran today. She did acknowledge that the Israeli Lobby is ҢrainwashingӠthe American people. She also emphasized that Iran is not making ҡny nuclear weapons.ӠMr. Patico saw the U.S. government itself as the main issue with respect to Iran. He said it has ҥxacerbated the situation.ӠPatico asked: җhy did it (the U.S.) put the nuclear option on the table?Ӡ

According to DAWNճ press release, the focus of the event was the new ҈arvard Study on the negative influence of the Israel Lobby and what activists can do about it.Ӡ(3) The report was authored by Professors John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt. (4) It generated hostile reactions from Israeli sympathizers, like Alan Dershowitz, David Gergen and the Washington Post. (5) Essentially, the document revealed what most objective observers of the Middle East already knew: The Israeli Lobby, which includes the Neocons, has exercised ҵnmatched powerӠover U.S.ճ policies to the extent that its role is harmful and not in the national interest. In fact, pundit Charley Reese, was even more blunt. He called Israel, Ҕhe dead roach in Americaճ salad.ӠHe also accused the Lobby of Ңeating the drums for war with Iran.Ӡ(6) Recently, investigative reporter Seymour Hersh revealed, that the Bush()-Cheney Gang was planning a nuclear strike against Iran. (7)

Continuing with Zeeseճ comments, he said: ҁnother important, hard line group is the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA). They have been advocating Բegime changeՠin a number of Arab counties: Iraq(), Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and with the Palestinian Authority for years. JINSAճ board of advisors has included many Bush administration leaders: Dick Cheney, John Bolton, Richard Perle, James Woolsey and Douglas Feith...They (JINSA) put a report out on April 12th, called, ԉran, Iran, Iran and Iran.ՠIran, the document said is the Էhole list of national security priorities.ՠYes, they want to see Բegime changeՠin Iran. They want to see an attack on Iran.ӊ
Itճ interesting to note that one of the members of the U.S. Congress, who supports a U.S. air strike against Iranճ nuclear facilities is the Israeli Firster, Joseph Lieberman (D-CT). He told the Jerusalem Post, he would, if necessary, advocate such a measure to Ҥeter the development of their nuclear program.Ӡ(8) What, of course, Lieberman didnմ say is that his favorite country, Israel, is suspected of having over 400 nuclear weapons! (9)

at Baltimore Indy media center

Jeanne, interesting what you posted about the origins of Shenandoah -- the version I mentioned, the Men of the Robert Shaw Chorale -- is on the album titled, "Sea Shanties

Today is Yom HaShoah, or Holocaust Remembrance Day.

It is a day set aside to remember all people who died at the hands of Hitler and the Nazis.

Interesting post, David. I may get the album. Springteen has been in the doldrums for years. His recent stuff has been so bad, that his outtake series, "The Essential Bruce Springsteen," was his best album since the 1980s.

David, don't take this the wrong way, but I'm with Pajamas too, so we're partners. What's with the off topic posts? "Bushhitler" has nothing to do with this album.

Greg Kot (free reg. required) gave a similarly enthusistic review in the Chicago Tribune.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/arts/chi-0604220246apr23,1,2529301.story

#25
Pande,
You really are a kind man. LBH handed you a dilly and you let it go.

He wrote:
"I understand that you're pissed the Dems are to imcompetent to get anything done or stand for an issue."

Fella, if you're going to write about incompetence it's best to spell the word right.

I read this in the May/June issue of Tikkun magazine -- the editor responded to a reader's opinion, in part:

"...Oppressive regimes always feel threatened by those whom they oppress. While my full and more nuanced account of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is found in my book, Healing Israel/Palestine, I refuse to accept any account that leaves either Israelis or Palestinians as the "blameless victims" of the other side."

Mr. Ruberry,

David hosts an open forum, and many regulars here take advantage of his generous hospitality to maintain an online community.

Some of us have actually met in the flesh.

We post articles, argue, kibbutz, keep each other company, and sometimes comment on David's postings.

Now, that said, I think a very good argument can be made that the Fascist inclinations of both Bush and Hitler can be directly related to the Seegar legacy.

This machine kills fascists Legend on Woody Guthries guitar.

#85 Maybe you're just envious that David gets responses to his blog? Unlike you.

Have folks signed the "Don't attack Iran" petition?

O Reilly,

You can get off your knees now, Pande is done with you for the day.

Pande,

Boy, you spent two posts making up bullshit with no links to facts- either I'm wearing you down or the bucket of lies are getting empty!

Jeanne

Are you trying to tell everyone that you've never spelled a word wrong on this blog?

The corn-nuts lies just keep a coming!!!!

It was not so long ago that we witnessed the mine accidents in West Virginia and Pennsylvania.

The mine owners had many regulatory violations.

I'm surprised there isn't more response about the labor aspect of this discussion. Surely Bruce Springsteen's work reflects the working class experience.

WHICH SIDE ARE YOU ON?

THE ALMANAC SINGERS, 1941:

WOODY GUTHRIE, LEE HAYS, MILLARD LAMPELL, PETE SEEGER

In 1931, coal miners in Harlan County were on strike. Armed company deputies roamed the countryside, terrorizing the mining communities, looking for union leaders to beat, jail, or kill. But coal miners, brought up lean and hard in the Kentucky mountain country, knew how to fight back, and heads were bashed and bullets fired on both sides in Bloody Harlan.

micki 87, while some of the Palestinians have felt desperate enough to resort to violence, the vast majority are certainly the victims of an illegal occupation. I have mentioned before the Israeli violations of over 60 UN resolutions, including the taking of Jerusalem which was given to Palestine, and now the building of this apartheid wall which is also a violation of law. People in this country are debating the inhumaneness of a wall between the US and Mexico to keep out ILLEGAL immigrants, but think nothing of the Israeli wall that seperates the Palestinian people from what is by law, both legal and moral, their homeland. Just another BS double standard. The Palestinians are as much to blame for this situation as the Cherokee people were for the Trail of Tears. In both instances invaders coveted what belonged to someone else and so took it by force.

This Machine Kills Fascists (pic)

Pande says:

CIA leaker got caught telling the truth.

Prove it!!!!! There is no proof that the US had secret prisons.

She did get caught leaking National Security secrets that has put our agents and troops at risk of death (according to the CIA).

Just like a liberal to not give a fuck about our kids in harms way just to get some browny points against Bush.

We should have secret prisons for friggin commy bastards like you and your side kick O Reilly. Now that would be in our Country's best interest. Too bad liberals in the ACLU have fucked up our society to the point of self destruction. You should be proud Corn-nut!!!

AHHHHHH! I feel much better now!

MICKI THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS DAY OF REMEMBRANCE UP FOR US. WHEN WILL WE EVER LEARN WHEN WILL WE EVER LEARN? Does not look like any time soon.

WOULD SOMEONE LINK THE "TOMORROW IS TOO LATE" VIDEO FOR ME ON THE "COALITION FOR DARFUR WEBSITE". I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

OVER 400,OOO PEOPLE IN DARFUR HAVE BEEN MURDERED IN THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS..AND THE WORLD STANDS BY.

Remembering ALL of those who were murdered in the WWII Holocaust.

About 220,000 Sinti and Roma were killed in the Holocaust (some estimates are as high as 800,000), between a quarter to a half of the European population. Other groups deemed "racially inferior" or "undesirable": Soviet military prisoners of war and civilians on occupied territories including Russians and other Slavs, Poles (3 million Polish Jews, and 2 million Polish gentiles, total 5 million Poles killed in Holocaust), the mentally or physically disabled, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses, Communists and political dissidents, trade unionists, Freemasons, and some Catholic and Protestant clergy, were also persecuted and killed. Many scholars do not include the Nazi persecution of all of these groups in the definition of the Holocaust, with some scholars limiting the Holocaust to the genocide of the Jews; some to genocide of the Jews, Roma, and disabled; and some to all groups targeted by Nazi racism.[2] Taking all these other groups into account, however, the total death toll rises considerably, estimates generally place the total number of Holocaust victims at 9 to 11 million, though some estimates have been as high as 26 million.[3]

I love the Halliburton Company. Don't you? Dick, under your leadership this company became the criminal enterprise it is today. Thank you.

Failure of pipeline in northern Iraq a monument to failures of reconstruction

A no-bid Halliburton project in Iraq could cause nightmares for President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney after the failed project receives front page treatment in Tuesday's New York Times... The article begins by describing an Army Inspector's view of a gargantuan trench which was supposed to be a glimmering achievement in the US rebuilding of Iraq's oil infrastructure.

The project, called the Fatah pipeline crossing, had been a critical element of a $2.4-billion no-bid reconstruction contract that a Halliburton subsidiary had won from the Army in 2003. The spot where about 15 pipelines crossed the Tigris had been the main link between Iraq's rich northern oil fields and the export terminals and refineries that could generate much-needed gasoline, heating fuel, and revenue for Iraqis.

For all those reasons, the project's demise would seriously damage the American-led effort to restore Iraq's oil system and enable the country to pay for its own reconstruction. Exactly what portion of Iraq's lost oil revenue can be attributed to one failed project, no matter how critical, is impossible to calculate. But the pipeline at Al Fatah has a wider significance as a metaphor for the entire $45-billion rebuilding effort in Iraq. Although the failures of that effort are routinely attributed to insurgent attacks, an examination of this project shows that troubled decision-making and execution have played equally important roles.

The Fatah project went ahead despite warnings from experts that it could not succeed because the underground terrain was shattered and unstable. It continued chewing up astonishing amounts of cash when the predicted problems bogged the work down, with a contract that allowed crews to charge as much as $100,000 a day as they waited on standby.

TOMORROW IS TOO LATE

Sudan Tribune
Genocide in Darfur - How the Horror Began
Saturday 3 September 2005

By Eric Reeves.

In one of the most remote places in Africa, an insurgency began unnoticed under the shadow of the war in Iraq in 2003, killing 350,000 to 400,000 people in 29 months by means of violence, malnutrition, and disease in the first genocidal rampage of the 21st century.

The insurgeny began virtually unnoticed in February 2003; it has, over the past two years, precipitated the first great episode of genocidal destruction in the 21st century. The victims are the non-Arab or African tribal groups of Darfur, primarily the Fur, the Massaleit, and the Zaghawa, but also the Tunjur, the Birgid, the Dajo, and others. These people have long been politically and economically marginalized, and in recent years the National Islamic Front regime, based in Sudan’≥ capital of Khartoum, has refused to control increasingly violent Arab militia raids of African villages in Darfur. Competition between Arab and African tribal groups over the scarce primary resources in Darfur-arable land and water-has been exacerbated by advancing desertification throughout the Sahel region.

at Sudan Tribune

What's the deal with the troll? I thought a few weeks ago it claimed that it was a socially liberal, fiscally conservative joker who was only yanking our chains and promised to go away. Yet it continues to post. I guess it's a moron as well as a liar.

Has anyone heard anything more about the Reid indictment we were once so breathlessly promised?

And let us not forget this horrid genocide.

Joseph Stalin
AKA 'Koba', AKA 'Uncle Joe'. Stalin translates to 'Man of Steel'.

Country: Former Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR - Soviet Union).

Kill tally: Approximately 20 million, including up to 14.5 million needlessly starved to death. At least one million executed for political "offences". At least 9.5 million more deported, exiled or imprisoned in work camps, with many of the estimated five million sent to the 'Gulag Archipelago' never returning alive. Other estimates place the number of deported at 28 million, including 18 million sent to the 'Gulag'.
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Hitler was neither the first nor last, he just gets better advertising.

Indeed, totalitarianism comes in many flavors...

Thanks Robert

Rebuilding of Iraqi Pipeline as Disaster Waiting to Happen
By JAMES GLANZ
Published: April 25, 2006

When Robert Sanders was sent by the Army to inspect the construction work an American company was doing on the banks of the Tigris River, 130 miles north of Baghdad, he expected to see workers drilling holes beneath the riverbed to restore a crucial set of large oil pipelines, which had been bombed during the invasion of Iraq.What he found instead that day in July 2004 looked like some gargantuan heart-bypass operation gone nightmarishly bad. A crew had bulldozed a 300-foot-long trench along a giant drill bit in their desperate attempt to yank it loose from the riverbed. A supervisor later told him that the project's crews knew that drilling the holes was not possible, but that they had been instructed by the company in charge of the project to continue anyway.

A few weeks later, after the project had burned up all of the $75.7 million allocated to it, the work came to a halt.

What I have never understood is why the Palestinian people were forced to sacrifice and suffer for the crimes of Germany. Why is it that the violence against the Jews in Europe was taken out on the innocent semites of the middle east? They had always lived in peace with the few Jews who chose to remain in Palestine until the Zionist Jews showed up, then the gates of hell were flung open. And for some reason the US and Britain fan the flames, I just don't get it.

Corn folks and Corn trolls... take the time to go watch "Tomorrow is too late" at #1oo Robert linked the video. Well worth watching... an image a picture is worth a thousand words.

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Saladin -

A couple of things to consider.

One) The possibility that the Balfour Declaration was another British attempt at divide and conquer. (Why is Iraq composed of 3 major sects in artificial boundaries?)

Two) That the Zionist Jews were purchasing land in Palestine; but often the sellers were absentee landlords, much as the British in Ireland, when the Jews came to the purchased properties they often displaced the Palestinian tenant farmers.

Three) THe Grand Mufti of Jeruselem was allied with the Fascists.

I love trolls because trolls is dumb!! Lies and more lies, no truth but hey if it keeps you from going off of your meds go for it. NOthing like self delusion to take the edge off of the morning. Ha Ha, G Good Question SAl. Why do the palestinians have to pay for Germany's transgressions, why not let them pay for the palestinians government since they caused the eurpean exodus of jewery to that country. And russia too. It is a safety valve for these countries to let their population leave to go to their "homeland" which it really never was, but hey if you are going to take a position pick a good one.

Is US Being Transformed Into a Radical Republic? By Lawrence Wilkerson
The Baltimore Sun

Sunday 23 April 2006

We Americans came not from a revolution but from an evolution.

That is in large part why our so-called revolution produced success while most throughout history did not. We came as much from the Magna Carta as from our own doings, as much from British common law and parliamentary development as from the Declaration of Independence and Continental Congress.

Unlike the true revolution on the other side of the Atlantic that led to Napoleon's dictatorship and strife and conflict all across Europe, our evolution founded the greatest country the world has ever seen. That was true in every element of power and in the uniqueness that makes us great, our constant striving for "a more perfect union" and, as we do so, our open arms for the other peoples of the world "yearning to be free."

As Alexis de Tocqueville once said: "America is great because she is good. If America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great."

In January 2001, with the inauguration of George W. Bush as president, America set on a path to cease being good; America became a revolutionary nation, a radical republic. If our country continues on this path, it will cease to be great - as happened to all great powers before it, without exception.

From the Kyoto accords to the International Criminal Court, from torture and cruel and unusual treatment of prisoners to rendition of innocent civilians, from illegal domestic surveillance to lies about leaking, from energy ineptitude to denial of global warming, from cherry-picking intelligence to appointing a martinet and a tyrant to run the Defense Department, the Bush administration, in the name of fighting terrorism, has put America on the radical path to ruin.

more at truthout

Don

I was wrong about the Reid indictment. I have since learned that it is OK for liberal Democrats to be unethical and get away with it. That's alright because Republicans are held to a higher standard as we should be.

I don't know what you're talking about being a social liberal? I'm pro-life, not pro-death (Liberal). I'm against same sex marriage (Pande + O Reilly)=(Liberal)=(yuck!!).

I do love it when I yank your chains but never promised to go away.

Am I too much for you to handle? One little ol troll against soooo many corn-nuts. Am I really that intimidating? AHHH shucks I'm flattered!!!

The Darfur horror is terrible. Why isn't bush standing up for the democracy in that nation? Isn't this a 'war on terror' too? One day was too long. It's been going on long enough for Bush to have noticed. What a hypocrite.

Senator says Senate must study breakup of oil firms

In a speech today on the Senate floor, Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY) proposed considering the breakup of oil firms.

"We also have to reexamine whether having only a handful of giant oil companies can coexist with the needs of the American consumer and a rational energy policy in this country -- I do not believe it does," Schumer declared. "And so I'll be offering an amendment to the supplemental that will require a complete examination as to whether or not we should break up the big oil companies."

"Enough is enough," the New York senator added. "We have no competition. There are signs of it. I've talked to business leaders who buy oil and gas products, major, conservative Republican business leaders, and they don't believe the market is on the level."
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The oil companies' profits are a good way to really destroy the economy. I paid $2.77 for gas on Sunday night. It was $2.89 the next day. When a wife and mother is working just to pay for taxes and gas there is something very wrong.

Wow. I musta hit a nerve with LBH. The poor guy is back to the gay-baiting.

And more proof that LBH has the reading skillz of an orangutan.

"Boy, you spent two posts making up bullshit with no links to facts- either I'm wearing you down or the bucket of lies are getting empty!"
Posted by: LBH at April 25, 2006 12:43 PM

Those big blue letters on post #25 and #26 are links. Click on them and you'll get information from such places as the U.S. Census Bureau and the Bureau of Labor and Statistics and you'll get a little poll info from CNN. Wow. Lying again? Natch, you're a conservative. Telling the truth for you is like trying to breath underwater.

China Invests Heavily In Sudan's Oil Industry
Beijing Supplies Arms Used on Villagers
By Peter S. Goodman
Washington Post Foreign Service
Thursday, December 23, 2004; Page A01

LEAL, Sudan -- On this parched and dusty African plain, China's largest energy company is pumping crude oil, sending it 1,000 miles upcountry through a Chinese-made pipeline to the Red Sea, where tankers wait to ferry it to China's industrial cities. Chinese lab