April 18, 2006Rove on the Stand--And Cheney and Tenet, Too?Just posted the below in my "Capital Games" column at www.thenation.com.... There is a clash of titans underway at the filing room of the federal courthouse in Washington. Now that special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald and Scooter Libby's defense team are in the thick of pretrial motions, every week or so one side or the other files a motion, a counter-motion or a counter-counter-motion, and these documents are providing sporadic glimpses into what happened in the weeks that led up to the Plame/CIA leak in 2003. For instance, it was a Fitzgerald filing that revealed that Libby had testified that Dick Cheney had authorized him to leak selective portions of the National Intelligence Estimate on WMDs in Iraq to New York Times reporter Judith Miller and that this had happened after George W. Bush approved releasing (or leaking) slices of the NIE. The most recent Libby filing did not contain such a blockbuster disclosure. But here are a few interesting portions: When the issue of Valerie Wilson's employment is viewed in its proper context, and the full story is revealed, it will be clear that Ms. Wilson's role was a peripheral issue. If the press stories surrounding the governments NIE disclosure illustrate anything, it is that this case is factually complex and that the government's notion that it involves only Mr. Libby and the OVP [Office of the Vice President] is a fairy tale. Hmmm, does this mean that there was a wide-ranging White House effort to undercut Joe Wilson's credibility that involved others than Libby and went beyond trying to depict Wilson trip to Niger as a boondoggle orchestrated by his wife, a CIA officer? Libby's lawyers keep hinting that they will suck the rest of the White House into the case to defend their man. But this is puzzling, for if Libby goes too far down that road, won't he hurt his standing as a deserving recipient of a presidential pardon? Many White House fans are raising millions of dollars for the Libby defense fund and a conservative think tank has put him on the payroll. So how many grenades can Libby throw at Bush, Cheney and Karl Rove? The defense is likely to call Mr. Rove to provide testimony regarding Mr. Libby's conversations with Mr. Rove concerning reporters inquiries about Ms. Wilson, as expressly discussed in the indictment. Rove on the stand, being examined by Fitzgerald? Neither Rove nor the White House can want that. Fitzgerald has not indicted Rove, and his exact role in the leak remains murky--though he reportedly was the second source for the Bob Novak column that disclosed Valerie Wilson's CIA employment. And he was the firt source for Matt Cooper of Time. If he hits the witness stand, Fitzgerald can ask much. What exactly did Rove do before the leak? What did he say to Novak? How did he learn about Valerie Wilson's CIA status? Who else knew? Did he talk to Bush about this? After the leak investigation began--and Bush publicly said he wanted to know who the leakers were--did Rove inform his boss that he had been one of leakers? If so, why did Bush not keep his promise to fire anyone who had leaked classified information? This could be a rather dramatic moment in the Libby trial. Will Libby really put Rove (and the White House) through this? Or are his lawyers merely bluffing for now--in order to burden Fitzgerald with various documents requests? For his part, Fitzgerald has said he has no plans to call Rove as a witness. In addition, Mr. Libby plans to demonstrate that the indictment is wrong when it suggests that he and other government officials viewed Ms. Wilson's role in sending her husband to Africa as important. We need the requested documents to prepare this crucial aspect of his defense. Fitzgerald's indictment of Libby notes that Cheney--weeks before the Plame leak happened--told Libby that Valerie Wilson worked for the Counterproliferation Division of the clandestine service of the CIA, the operations directorate. Why was Cheney himself seeking out--and passing to Libby--information on Valerie Wilson if he did not view her role as potentially significant? Perhaps Cheney can answer that on the stand. Further, Mr. Tenet is a likely witness. Should this happen, Fitzgerald, unfortunately, is not going to examine former CIA chief George Tenet on how the agency screwed up much (though not all) of the prewar intelligence. He won't grill Tenet on why the CIA director did not say anything when Bush and other administration officials overstated the CIA's intelligence. That's not part of Fitzgerald's case. But it would be rather interesting to hear Tenet discuss the conflict that raged between the CIA and the White House at the time of the leak, when it was becoming increasingly likely that no WMDs would be found in Iraq and when the agency and the Bush crew were pointing fingers at each other. Tenet, who oversaw one of the biggest intelligence screw-ups in the CIA's history (two, if you count 9/11), has snagged a presumably lucrative book contract. American citizens should not have to pay $30 each to receive Tenet's explanations of what went wrong. They deserve this information (even if it is self-serving) for free. But none of the Republican-controlled congressional committees have called Tenet to testify publicly and extensively about the prewar intelligence disaster. Perhaps Fitzgerald can slip in one or two questions. Imagine the spectacle if Libby's attorneys are right in their pretrial assertions: Rove, Cheney and Tenet on the stand. The trial is not scheduled to begin until next January. Republicans fretting about the coming congressional elections should at least be happy about that. I say, I listen to all voices, but mine is the final decision. And Don Rumsfeld is doing a fine job. He's not only transforming the military, he's fighting a war on terror. He's helping us fight a war on terror. I have strong confidence in Donald Rumsfeld. I hear the voices, and I read the front page, and I know the speculation. But I'm the decider, and I decide what is best. And what's best is for Don Rumsfeld to remain as the secretary of defense. Ladies and gentlemen, your president--who hears voices and reads the front page (anything on the inside?), and who is the "decider" who decides "what is best." This should really help him in the polls. Posted by David Corn at April 18, 2006 01:32 PM |
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A lot of the opinion coverage of the alleged rape is of the "don't rush to judgement" type. Very little of the coverage - opinion and news - even references the injuries of the alleged victim.
Duke is trying to spin this hard and fast in order to keep the stink off. They have another obligation as an educational institution and that is to teach, even (or perhaps especially) with respect to this incident.
True leadership would say, if a member of our community has broken the law, or breeched the social contract, there will be appropriate consequences. We will review the standards we set to insure everyone associated with our university understands them and is committed to supporting them. Athletic teams will be held to the same standards as the rest of the school. They need to say it.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 01:40 PM
bush is the decider? That's a laugh! I doubt if he can decide what tie to wear in the morning. I see our military going in the same direction as our economy, straight to hell. And just like the economy it is no accident. The worst mistake people make is in thinking bush and his side kicks are in charge of any of this, dismissing everything as the work of incompetents. They are lying, greedy, traitorous murderers, but they don't make the plans. They just profit from implementing them.
Posted by: Saladin at April 18, 2006 01:42 PM
David,
Thank you for your post on this topic, "Rove on the Stand--And Cheney and Tenet, Too?" This case is, I hope, the engine that will drive the adminstration towards accountability and consequences and rest the rest of us, closer to the truth. Thanks.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 01:44 PM
Decide me once...
Posted by: Bill from Dover at April 18, 2006 01:46 PM
I almost said ha.
Posted by: James Ha at April 18, 2006 01:47 PM
David, Fitzgerald will go all the way to the chimp-in-charge with indictments of complicity to release classified documents to discredit a political opponent, only a matter of time. Heads will roll. This administration has gone to extraordinary lengths to hide their sneaky, underhanded attacks, leaving a trail anybody with a court order could follow, Fitzgerald ROCKS!
Posted by: DEN at April 18, 2006 01:48 PM
Imagine the spectacle if Libby's attorneys are right in their pretrial assertions: Rove, Cheney and Tenet on the stand.
May I politely remind the audience that this is the same judge who has gagged Sibel Edmonds, and thrown her case out of court?
Posted by: Robert Schwartz at April 18, 2006 01:56 PM
Decider-N-Chief sez Rummy is OK, got to keep the PNACers together till the world dominatrix thing is done.
Posted by: DEN at April 18, 2006 01:58 PM
Strange April 19th anniversaries
On April 19, 1775, British and American soldiers exchanged fire in the Massachusetts towns of Lexington and Concord. On the night of April 18, the royal governor of Massachusetts, General Thomas Gage, commanded by King George III to suppress the rebellious Americans, had ordered 700 British soldiers, under Lieutenant Colonel Francis Smith and Marine Major John Pitcairn, to seize the colonists' military stores in Concord, some 20 miles west of Boston.
Waco, on April 19th, 1993 79 men, women and children were murdered at Mount Carmel.
Oklahoma City bombing was a terrorist attack on April 19, 1995, in which the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, a U.S. government office complex in downtown Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, was destroyed, killing 168 people. It is the largest domestic terrorist attack in the history of the United States and was the largest act of terrorism within U.S. borders until September 11, 2001.
1933 FDR announces US will leave the gold standard
1947 French ship explodes in Texas City harbor, kills about 522
1961 : Exiles invade Cuba at Bay of Pigs
1971 Charles Manson sentenced to life (Sharon Tate murder)
1972 US performs nuclear test at Nevada Test Site
1973 USSR performs nuclear test at Eastern Kazakhstan/Semipalitinsk USSR
1983 France performs nuclear test
1985 USSR performs nuclear test at Eastern Kazakhstan/Semipalitinsk USSR
1987 USSR performs underground nuclear test
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I guess it's also official nuclear test day.
Posted by: Saladin at April 18, 2006 01:58 PM
Robert, I posted an article about that a few days ago, but either no one noticed or felt it unimportant. Quite a coincidence that the same judge, whose required financial declarations were completely redacted before being handed over via FOIA request, is in charge of two cases involving the lies that started the war in Iraq.
Posted by: Saladin at April 18, 2006 02:01 PM
The comments in Libby's filing about a much wider issue made me think of Lee Harvey Oswald's infamous plea "I'm just a patsy." Before Libby can truly spill the beans in court testimony, will Jack Abramoff walk up to him in the hall and shoot him in the stomach?
Posted by: Riff at April 18, 2006 02:08 PM
The Decider and Thief has spoken.
Posted by: Damn_Em at April 18, 2006 02:12 PM
Bush the Decider
David the Free-Fraud Zoner
Posted by: LBH at April 18, 2006 02:14 PM
David
Libby isn't going to need a Pardon. Those are saved for little drug dealing brothers!
Posted by: LBH at April 18, 2006 02:17 PM
Maybe Rove could testify on just which voices Bush hears. And didn't POTUS once proudly say he never read newspapers?? Which is it? Front page summaries of the daily briefings based on FoxNews as gleened by the VP, or maybe this is just the way the new Chief of Staff gets his puppet to say "heck of a job, Rummy"
Posted by: spyder at April 18, 2006 02:17 PM
How late in the process can Fitzgerald identify Rove as a witness?
Alternatively, if Fitz is trying to nail Libby for lying, why embroil Rove in that effort and complicate the ongoing investigation? Fitz may be after Rove or Cheney or Hadley for conspiracy and/or unauthorized government secrets disclosure and/or specifically disclosing the identity of a CIA NOC. I've got to believe he'd love to nail the guilty party for the "underlying crime" if he could make it stick.
There have been indications Rove cooperated with the investigation such as the production of missing email and the pre-indictment dance between Luskin and Fitzgerald. Has Rove made discreet deals with Fitz or has he turned state's witness completely in return for immunity? Am I asking the same question you're asking or is it a significant twist? Does a rhetorical question leave more room for the reader to fill in the blanks or is it an overused device? Have you stopped reading this or will you finish it?
Fitz got a conviction on Gov. Ryan yesterday. No doubt there will be an appeal but Fitz will have more time to nail these rat-fucking bastards' asses to the wall in the DC Federal Courthouse. [Term of art from Watergate era.] The pre-trial motions are a cat and mouse game and Fitz is winning each round except in the press where right wing spew spin from the likes of Woodward and Byron York competing against Waas from National Journal, and occasionally if not rarely the MSM, but thank god for the blogosphere regulars pursuing this - Firedoglake, Glenn Greenwald, and Mr David Corn.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 02:18 PM
Libby is accused of making false staements to investigators and is indicted. Fitzpatrick makes a false statement to the media and is allowed to make a correction.
Some justice!
Posted by: LBH at April 18, 2006 02:21 PM
ORielly, I think everytime Fitz. turns over another rock there's another repug with another twist to provide. All the speculation about this issue will all go out the door soon. SOOOO much azz kissin and azz coverin. My question is, When is Fitz. going to wrap it up?
Posted by: DEN at April 18, 2006 02:31 PM
Sorry, O'Reilly spelled your name wrong. Dyslexia I guess.
Posted by: DEN at April 18, 2006 02:33 PM
Bush the Decider maker has a higher IQ than your boy John Kerry. John wasn't qualified or smart enough to be a decider maker. Now that's dumb!!!
Posted by: LBH at April 18, 2006 02:37 PM
YES! YES! OH YES! OH! OH! YES! Virtual SEX, WOWZER!
Posted by: DEN at April 18, 2006 03:16 PM
Den, Is it completly apparent, when a troll chirps in, wheher he has spent some or none (zero, nada, zippo) time familiarizing himself with the facts?
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 03:29 PM
#18 My question is, When is Fitz. going to wrap it up?
DEN, as you know, Scooter's trial is set to commence January 8, 2007, because one of his attorney's, Theodore V. Wells, Jr., is tied up with another trial. (Convenient, huh? No trial 'til after the Nov. mid-term elections.)
Anyway, the Libby Defense Fund is in High Gear and I think their plan is to fund Libby 'til hell freezes over so his legal team can keep throwing requests at Fitzgerald and string this thing out until bush/cheney/and company drop their bomb. A coup d'etat.
Then the trial is permanently postponed.
Posted by: caroline at April 18, 2006 03:30 PM
(troll)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 03:34 PM
Those are saved for little drug dealing brothers!
Posted by: James Ha at April 18, 2006 03:35 PM
bush and kerry, blood brothers and bonesman, one dumb as a post and a traitor, the other a traitor but can't use dumb as an excuse. I once read the odds of two bonesman running for president at the same time, they were astronomical. In 2002 Alexandra Robbins predicted, in her book, "Secrets Of the Tomb; Skull and Bones, the Ivy League and the Hidden Paths Of Power" that the 2004 presidential election might showcase the first time each ticket has been led by a Bonesman. She sure hit THAT nail on the head. The following link has an excerpt from that book. Very interesting indeed. It's not the IQ, it's the connections.
THE LEGEND OF SKULL AND BONES
Posted by: Saladin at April 18, 2006 03:36 PM
David is dreaming if he thinks Fitzgerald would ask Rove these questions:
[After the leak investigation began--and Bush publicly said he wanted to know who the leakers were--did Rove inform his boss that he had been one of leakers? If so, why did Bush not keep his promise to fire anyone who had leaked classified information?]
These are political questions. Fitz is only interested in the legal aspects of this matter.
Posted by: eggman at April 18, 2006 03:38 PM
[your president--who hears voices and reads the front page (anything on the inside?]
Marmaduke.
Posted by: eggman at April 18, 2006 03:50 PM
Behind The Scenes At The Neil Young "Impeach Bush" Recording Session
It's nice to see he still has it.
all options are on the table
HMMMMMM..This seems familiar.
Posted by: Paul at April 18, 2006 03:54 PM
please, allow me! no, after you!
Posted by: James Ha at April 18, 2006 03:58 PM
don't do anything I wouldn't do!
Posted by: James Ha at April 18, 2006 04:02 PM
O'Reilly, The troll of which you speak has been rearing his pin-head here for a while. I figure he is someones alter-ego, posing as a troll, quite amusing in a retarded kinda way.
Posted by: DEN at April 18, 2006 04:15 PM
Sal, The more I read about S&B the more I think the tomb would be a good place to test one of them there bunker busters. Heh, Heh! BALOOEY! Heh, Heh! I love it when EVIL gets blasted.
Posted by: DEN at April 18, 2006 04:19 PM
In what appears to be a reversal of previous policy, the head of the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) Julie Gerberding, says that "there is no evidence that it will be the next pandemic", commenting about avian flu.
"Hey, Rummy got his money from the stock sales, so we're calling off the flu scare tactics because NOW we need to you be afraid of Iran!"
-- Official White Horse Souse
Posted by: James Ha at April 18, 2006 04:22 PM
Mr. David Corn,
Great post!
Thanks
Kirk
Posted by: capt at April 18, 2006 04:25 PM
It is definitely time for Rumsfeld to go. Only our president would say differently. The Iraq mess isn't going to straighten itself out. It will take leadership amongst the military itself. If Rummy can't work with the generals nothing will ever get done.
Posted by: Joe Tully at April 18, 2006 04:27 PM
James Ha
Nice to see you broaden your topic choices from 9/11 conspiracies and naked Britney Spears posts!
Posted by: LBH at April 18, 2006 04:28 PM
When the hated despots of nations like Saudi Arabia and Kazakhstan loot their countries' treasuries, transfer their oil wealth to personal Swiss bank accounts and use the rest to finance (in the House of Saud's case) terrorist extremists, American politicians praise them as trusted friends and allies. But when a democratically elected populist president uses Venezuela's oil profits to lift poor people out of poverty, they accuse him of pandering.
Posted by: James Ha at April 18, 2006 04:30 PM
eggman 27
Because it was declassified!
Posted by: LBH at April 18, 2006 04:31 PM
Free "Republicans for Voldemort" buttons at tramlaw.info
Posted by: Voldemort at April 18, 2006 04:36 PM
please - if I focused on something other than 911 this blog would be buried under the weight of my posting rampage -
Posted by: James Ha at April 18, 2006 04:41 PM
Do you know your Bushisms? You be the decider.
More pork for the Grand Ol' Spending Party. $700 million here (Frist R-SEC investigation underway), another $250 Million there. Thad Cochran sops it up from his Corporate donors and rewards them with a little sumthin'-sumthin'. It all adds up for the conservatives who can't seem to stop squandering money from the Federal purse.
And it was linked earlier; but it bears repeating. There seems to be no end to the lawbreaking in the Republican Party. They're like gangsters. You lock one up and another minor criminal figure gets promoted from within the organization to take his place.
States are having to recoup from the cuts at the Federal level and struggle to avoid borrowing to make ends meet.
Those crazy Liberals at Field & Stream are stumped by the effort by former Interior Secretary Gale Norton to classify water hazards on the back nine as wetlands. When conservatives can't tell the truth, lying with numbers comes easy.
And this one is for all those lovely Conservative Christians. We know that deep down you hate our troops. (Hajji, don't look at that one.)
And it's good to see that LBH has gone back to not contributing a single bit of information to the discussions on this blog. Was that Hapless calling somebody a Dumass? Deny it. Go ahead.
Posted by: Pandemoniac at April 18, 2006 04:49 PM
Decision Maker
Dear Cornposters:
Bushitler says that he is a decision maker. Can anyone have confidence in his decisions? Tax cuts while fighting two wars has increased our deficits and no one seems to care about these huge deficits. His decision to go to war, a wrong and an immoral war, has been a disaster. Millions of Americans and Iraqis are dead, maimed, and homeless. Wherever he goes, he brings misery to people. He is also a notorious liar. He is a murderer and a war criminal. He made the decision to dump tons of white phosphorus on the Iraqi people. He has given the okay to torture prisoners of war. He makes the decision to travel instead of govern the country. His decisions have brought distrust to him and the American people. His slow decision to act during the hurricane season has made thousands of people homeless. Bushitler is a total loser as a decision maker.
Now, he is on the brink of nuking Iran. That will also be his decision.
Sincerely,
Gerald
Posted by: Gerald at April 18, 2006 04:51 PM
It is just sad that those representing a differing view have no view on anything except what or how we post.
Always the personal attack, insults, belittling, self-aggrandized, vainglorious uber-ego and never an issue addressed.
We can only hope the cyber-creeps go over the line and David banishes them to the Corn field. That would be something to celebrate.
Personal attacks are one of the things that most blogs do not allow. If David outlawed personal attacks the troll would have nothing to post.
capt
Posted by: capt at April 18, 2006 04:58 PM
I don't get it. What kind of pansy plays lacrosse anyways? What the hell is wrong with those kids now-a-daze!
Posted by: Prof. B G D'Gre at April 18, 2006 05:04 PM
Sad as it is with watching her nose grow with each sentence... brainwashed Americans will believe ths crap
Posted by: Alan at April 18, 2006 05:21 PM
Pan, I forgot to thank you for the "evil update" advice. I found a quick and easy fix, quite by accident. You can easily turn off the auto update feature! After an hour on the phone with MS it was decided that my problem was so unusual they needed to have a techie conference and promised to call me back. We'll see.
Den, I agree, test the bomb on the coffin!
Posted by: Saladin at April 18, 2006 05:24 PM
I can decide for myself, thank you. I've "had enough!"
Posted by: David B. Benson at April 18, 2006 05:30 PM
Lacrosse is not a pansy sport.
Posted by: Gerald at April 18, 2006 05:30 PM
Had enough? I think Americans are gluttons for punishment!
James, those photos say it all.
Posted by: Saladin at April 18, 2006 05:33 PM
Capt
I have not made any personal attacks on you, so why all the self-righteousness?
Have you never made a personal attack on Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, Rove? If your answer is no then you truly are a righteous corn blogger. If your answer is yes then shut your trap already!
Posted by: LBH at April 18, 2006 05:34 PM
Letter to WRH
READER: Great line for recuiting firemen, for the 9/11 truth movement. If Firemen were really convinced of the controlled demolition, and that Guilliani was warned to get out, and the Firemen weren't, that could be a powerful motivator for Firemen, and they have unions, etc., in which the 9/11 truth movement could be spread. I would suggest that the below line be included, as a tape-on-message on top of the DVD's that ny911truth have been distributing to Firehouses. My flyer, with the list of evidence of controlled demolition could be attached to it, also. Judy
One the TV news, on 9/11, Mayor Guilliani stated that he was told to get out, that the towers were going to fall. If the caller warned Guilliani, the caller knew that the towers were going to fall, and gave Guilliani time to get out. Why were the firemen not warned, and given time to get out, also?? Good Question???? Who's next to be sacrificed for the motives of the Bush Regime???
WRH: The world. Every wargame conducted regarding Iran shows the invasion turning into a global conflict. You know, "Dubya Dubya Three".
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Very good point.
Posted by: Saladin at April 18, 2006 05:36 PM
Gerald, I bet you'd like this speech by Ron Paul.
video included here at Paul's government site
Posted by: Alan at April 18, 2006 05:37 PM
Bushitler's Decision Commences WWIII
Posted by: Gerald at April 18, 2006 05:38 PM
correction 51
Not since Davids warning anyway! You did get a whoopin before David stepped in to save you Corn-nuts! The glory days are over!!
Posted by: LBH at April 18, 2006 05:39 PM
PRESIDENT BUSH NOW CAUGHT IN THE TANGLED WEB OF DECEPTION HE SPUN
By Bill Gallagher
DETROIT -- President George W. Bush's character is diseased. Serial lies spew from his forked tongue as the result of a damaged mind and personality that will not permit him to face the truth. He lies about leaks and leaks about lies.
Vice President Dick Cheney, Bush's shady and cynical servant, refuses to deal with the truth no matter how compelling and overwhelming the facts are. Cheney is the lord of the lies, the Bushevik Beelzebub, now hopelessly caught in his own deceptions and treachery.
We now know they both kept repeating a known lie -- that Iraq had secret trailers used as biological weapons labs -- long after a Pentagon-sponsored fact-finding group unanimously concluded the trailers had nothing whatsoever to do with weapons of any kind.
The report in the Washington Post caused White House spokesman Scott McClellan to fume. How could the Post, McClellan howled, give the impression "that the president was saying something he knew at the time not to be true." Matrons across America reached for their smelling salts, faint at the notion that someone might suggest that Dubya purposefully lied. Mercy me.
Bush and Cheney's lies are legion. They effectively used lies to scare the hell out of the American people and they still do. But now, they must manufacture more lies to fuel more fear to keep their mass-deception operation going. They are struggling to keep the old lies alive until the new ones roll off the assembly line.
Their base -- the corporate-military-religious right folks --is eager to carry the new canards to the faithful as soon as the marketing launch time is just right. The menace of Iran is the sure-bet product, with the usual suspects in the media anxious to sell it.
Iraq was sold as a threat and Saddam Hussein's horrible weapons were what we most had to fear. Biological and chemical weapons in Iraq were fearsome. Bush assured the United Nations the evil regime in Iraq had a "continued appetite" for nuclear bombs.
Saddam, Cheney solemnly warned us, was hankering to build some nukes. The first thing he would do would be to slip a few dirty bombs to his old pal and partner in terror, Osama bin Laden.
The Busheviks created the mythology, mounted on a tripod of smoking-gun "evidence." Saddam was attempting to buy uranium for nuclear weapons. He bought aluminum tubes that could "only be used" for nuclear weapons. He constructed and operated mobile biological labs in trailers to manufacture disease-bearing weapons. Slam-dunk. Or so they thought....
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An AWESOME rant!
Posted by: Saladin at April 18, 2006 05:43 PM
Alan, isn't it ironic that dems are quoting repubs and repubs are calling these patriots traitors? How things change.
Posted by: Saladin at April 18, 2006 05:44 PM
Could bush look any stooooooopider? Maybe because bush reads only the "front page" he missed the story last year when his war pal, Tony Blair said no more, "I know best...."
bush obviously has not learned that lesson -- "I'm the decider and I decide what's best," Bush told reporters in the Rose Garden...
No more 'I know best', says Blair Prime minister closes spring conference by admitting mistakes and stressing partnership with people
"...Mr Blair promised that he had abandoned the "I know best" approach for a true partnership with the public which acknowledged that "we can only do it together"....
"The best policy comes from a true partnership between government and people," he said.
He argued that he had moved on from two previous phases of his leadership - courting popularity for its own sake, and then governing as if only "I know best"...."
Posted by: micki at April 18, 2006 05:57 PM
When Jeanne linked this article @87 on the previous thread and on the one prior to that On the Possibility of A Military Coup in the United States of America I had hoped that she'd get some reaction to it. She asked what we thought.
Jeanne, I'd be interested to know what your thoughts are about this. (I posted to you on the previous thread.)
Posted by: micki at April 18, 2006 06:08 PM
Sal, the only time I had issues with updates was when I had a trojan in my computer and did not know it. It had destroyed enough data that when the update was applied it caused all kinds of goofy stuff to happen. You really need to get some software to find out if there is something sinister lurking, Norton is not enough. Wait till late at night when the internet slows down then go Trend Micro, run their scan, 1-2 hours long. It would speed things up to do a disk cleanup and defragmentation first which can be found in Start/accessories/system tools, to sort the hard drive for easier scanning. Some anti-spyware programs are not nice so beware. I use X-Block.com but there are many reputable co.'s out there. Maybe Hajji can suggest a good one. Otherewise use Spybot Search and Destroy and ADawareSE both free and available here @ Major Geeks
Posted by: DEN at April 18, 2006 06:15 PM
Re #60: Or get a Linux operating system and avoid (almost) all such difficulties...
Posted by: David B. Benson at April 18, 2006 06:20 PM
James Ha Nice to see you broaden your topic choices from 9/11 conspiracies and naked Britney Spears posts!
Posted by: LBH at April 18, 2006 04:28 PM
My comment is that your comment is a snarky dig at a person and not about an idea or a policy or an issue or an opinion about a concern or a broader issue. You are here to chide and provoke. How do you respond to the charge?
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 06:33 PM
BULLETIN: Positive story, Chapter Two
SALADIN: No sooner did I tell you about my positive story a few days ago -- and BINGO! I already got the overpayment check for 2004 from the US Treasury Department!
And guess what? They told me and my husband (in voluminous paperwork) that we were to get $1.59 -- but they sent us $1.60.
I am so happy! Our tax dollars at work...well, it's $1.60 less for the next war.
Posted by: micki at April 18, 2006 06:36 PM
"Law is often the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual.": Thomas Jefferson to I. Tiffany, 1819
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"As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the air -- however slight -- lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness." : William O Douglas
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"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters." : Daniel Webster
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Thanks ICH Newsletter!
Posted by: capt at April 18, 2006 06:40 PM
Looks like Tony Blair does "know best"...
Acccording to The Huffington Post:
"Tony Blair has canceled an upcoming trip to America to avoid being photographed with Bush. The prime minister was scheduled to visit the US this spring for meetings with the president, but the trip was called off after Blair decided that being photographed with Bush would be too toxic for his image."
Posted by: micki at April 18, 2006 06:41 PM
Micki,
You'll need to claim that on next years taxes.
I have been in and out all day. The weather has been beautiful. We Minnesotans always think the great weather isn't going to last, especially in April so we spend as much time as we can outside. It's going to be cooler and rainy tomorrow.
Micki, I'm going for a walk with my husband. Then I will respond on the military coup story. Oh and my advice on the money? Put it in a retirement fund. In ten years it will be worth a million dollars.
Posted by: Jeanne at April 18, 2006 06:43 PM
O Reilly
Come on, don't be such a nit-picking whiner!
Now, quit provoking me!
Posted by: LBH at April 18, 2006 06:45 PM
#61 You must not be on Bill Gates' payroll.
Posted by: caroline at April 18, 2006 06:59 PM
This part of David's musings was Good, Funny & (surprise!) ?Self-serving?
"Tenet, who oversaw one of the biggest intelligence screw-ups in the CIA's history (two, if you count 9/11), has snagged a presumably lucrative book contract. American citizens should not have to pay $30 each to receive Tenet's explanations of what went wrong. They deserve this information (even if it is self-serving) for free."
Important FACT:
Mr. Tenet was appointed by Bill Clinton back in 1997. As was with Richard Clark, another Clinton-era dot-UN-Connectors! On the other hand, could all be intentionally `playing dumb' if one is into an omnipotent Gov't conspiracy.
Book Deals:
I bet for GWBush's Presidency, more books by supposed `insiders' will be published than any other 8-year Presidents in our history. Lurking around every leak, scandal, unmuzzled retired military, ex-Cabinet member, etc.... there are or will be talkss of a `Book Deal'.
Posted by: Happy, or not, w/the CIA? at April 18, 2006 07:01 PM
Re #68: Nope, not on anybody's payroll! Does this make me a purely objective observer?
Posted by: David B. Benson at April 18, 2006 07:04 PM
Don't be a quarrelsome name-calling troll lbh. Stop provoking everyone you can.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 07:13 PM
lbh is inclined or eager to fight; hostile and aggressive.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 07:16 PM
His style has been described variously as abrasive and contentious, overbearing and pompous.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 07:17 PM
Previous Thread #131
A few regulars here must be kids or unable-to- launch young adults. Everybody on the blog, cept Mr. Corn, is Bill Gates or some other hero. Slander of Handle A by B and vice versa seems part of the game! DEN thinks he has a case of Lucy against Charley Brown, Comical! Where is your kindegarten teacher, DEN?
104
Mr Happy sez: DumAss member of the Corky school! That my freind is, SLANDER! Maybe you should go back to the market, I hear they're having a sale on TURNIPS!
Posted by: DEN at April 18, 2006 11:24 AM
Posted by: Silent Majority at April 18, 2006 02:53 PM
=============================================
I like Silent Majority, he/she is any blog site owners' friend!
As for my calling an occassional name, I own up to it! In Moderation! Something to the effect (I think I've said before): "When EF Hutton speaks, People listen (hopefully)".
When something posted leads me to that occassional name-calling, it always means that person has moved into the `danger zone'. Happy as a "blog monitor", geeze, I will never tell!
"Go back to the market" was great piece of advice today! Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow,........ Other than just one stock dropping by $0.09, ALL of my stocks & funds went up. This is a miracle! What is the odds of that? Wow! Wowweeeee!
Posted by: Happy wraps up loose ends at April 18, 2006 07:19 PM
Happy, your prose is beyond comprehension. . . dumass.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 07:24 PM
Happy's prose (pic)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 07:25 PM
Douche bag of Liberty (pic)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 07:28 PM
The King (pic)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 07:29 PM
I was watching the national news and a report said that many children are suffering illnesses and problems from the afthermath of Katrina and families have lost their health care. As I listened to the news, I wondered where are the pro-life people? I guess since these children are out of the mother's womb their lives are of no importance to these pro-life groups.
Ron Paul
Dear Cornposters:
Alan has alerted me to Ron Paul's great speech before Congress. I listened to his entire speech and I will give you some of my notes from his speech.
I also read Ron Paul's article, "Sanctions against Iran." The article was also very helpful and informative. Ron Paul has been a great read for the past several months. Thank you, Ron Paul! You make things clearer in seeing what is happening to our country.
Ron Paul did a great job of bringing up to date the past history of Iran. Unless we remember, we will forget that Nazi America has been a tyrant to other countries.
He mentioned several times in his speech that we cannot prove a negative. Nazi America is trying to prove that Iran has nuclear weapons and she does not have these weapons. Iran cannot satisfy Nazi America because there are no nuclear weapons but Nazi America does not believe her. Iran will never be able to prove that she does not have these weapons to satisfy Nazi America. So, we are drawing closer to a nuclear attack upon Iran and the commencing of WW III. We are not an honorable nation. Our Constitution is non-existent. We cannot continue to police the world. We have now less freedom and less civil liberty.
I believe that we are a doomed nation and a doomed people. Our middle class is now enslaved and edging into the poor class. We will see more converts to Islam in Nazi America.
Ron Paul said that pain would soon arrive to pay the bills for our continued deficits in printed out more money to pay for soon to be three wars. We are only cannon fodder for the rich whose sons and daughters will never be in harm's way.
We cannot impose our will on every country in the world. We must stick our noses out of other people's business.
Sincerely,
Gerald
Posted by: Gerald at April 18, 2006 07:29 PM
O'Reilly:
If you, the Bostonian, can't understand my prose, it must mean you are the dimmest bulb in all of Mass, no wonder DEC went extinct even while Tedddy stays on, and on, and on.....
Posted by: Happy to prototypical NE Elitist at April 18, 2006 07:31 PM
O Reilly
Move on already!!!!!
Posted by: LBH at April 18, 2006 07:31 PM
Den 60, thanks for the advice. MS promised to call me back tommorrow evening and since the problem is a minor one easily remedied by removing the offending update I will give them a chance.
#61, David, I am seriously considering that!
micki, I wonder how much all the paperwork cost? And what will they spend to get the 1 cent over payment back? ;-)
Posted by: Saladin at April 18, 2006 07:32 PM
Don't let the sun
go down on me!!!
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 07:34 PM
O'Reilly 76, FUNNY!
Posted by: Saladin at April 18, 2006 07:35 PM
You know nothing about me Happy. Nothing.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 07:36 PM
Happy (moo)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 07:39 PM
Sent to me in an e-mail.
The Gospel of Scooter
by Richard Lingeman
The Nation
Recently stories appeared in the press about a new Gnostic codex, "The Gospel of Judas." This document alleges that Judas, despised as the betrayer of Jesus, had actually been acting on Christ's orders in accordance with God's plan. That same day the press was also full of stories that former vice-presidential aide Lewis (Scooter) Libby, who is accused by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald of lying to federal prosecutors about his role in the leaking of a CIA National Intelligence Estimate that President Bush had declassified. That night, digesting these sensational stories, I had a troubling dream that still another codex had been discovered in the Capitol Crypt in Washington. The tattered pages appeared in my dream somehow translated from the original Coptic:
Here are the true revelations about Lewis Called Scooter, whom Pontius Patrick has charged with betraying the secret name of the Plame Woman, causing shame and obloquy to be heaped on the head of Lewis Called Scooter, a good and faithful servant of Our Lord George and Vice Lord Dick.
Now, the Plame Woman had sent her husband, Joseph, to the Land of Niger in search of the Secret of the Yellow Cake. When Joseph returned, he told the Plame Woman he had learned that Our Lord was a liar and she said to him: "Joseph, you have done well. Now go forth and broadcast these lies the world." And Joseph did this in an op-ed for the Jerusalem End Times, where he charged that the Mesopotamian Saddamites had not sought the Yellow Cake as Our Lord had alleged.
Now, when this was learned by Our Lord George, he was sorely distressed. For had he not proclaimed in the run-up to the great Mesopotamian War the True Gospel of Nucular Weapons? Had he not prophesied that great blackness and flames would appear in the sky and mass destruction descend on the land unless American Legionnaires conquered Mesopotamia and the Saddamites?
Our Lord summoned Vice Lord Dick to the Whited Temple and complained that he was being branded a liar. Vice Lord Dick spoke to him as follows: "Lord, we are treading in camel dung with an election coming up. My advice is impeach the Plame Woman by revealing that she is a member of the CIA band of traitors." To this plan Our Lord George assented.
And so the Vice Lord summoned unto him his loyal servant Lewis and told him the Lord's plan. And Lewis the Scooter went forth and whispered the tale into the ear of the scribe Judith Iscariot, who told it to her editors at the Jerusalem End Times.
And so after months had passed Pontius Patrick accused Lewis Called Scooter of leaking the secret name of the Plame Woman to the scribes. "I must save my good and loyal Lewis," cried Vice Lord Cheney, and he waited upon Our Lord George, who consulted with his Chief of Scribe Relations, Scott the Pharisee.
And so on the eve of the Easter weekend Scott the Pharisee summoned the Scribes to the Whited Temple and told them to cease their calumny. For he could now reveal that our Lord George had in his infinite wisdom given his official blessing to his faithful Servant Lewis imparting the mystery of the Yellow Cake and the Plame Woman to favored scribes. "Verily," Scott said, "you're crucifying the wrong man."
The Scribes cried: "Our Lord George is a hypocrite!" And they cried: "Spin not, Scott, or you will reap the next hurricane."
And so Lewis the Scooter was a hero of the realm and Pontius Patrick could wash his hands of the entire case. All thanks to Our Lord George.... [At this point the Codex breaks off.]
Posted by: Saladin at April 18, 2006 07:39 PM
happy?
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 07:40 PM
O Reilly
You accuse me of being the provoker maker, but yet you continue to post chiding, proking comments at: 62-71-72-73-75-76-77-78 (with no purpose other than to start a fight) while accusing someone else. How do you respond?
Posted by: LBH at April 18, 2006 07:42 PM
O'Reilly, why are you expending so much time on the bushbots?
Posted by: Saladin at April 18, 2006 07:42 PM
O'Reilly, thank you for the great pics. They add to the day of posting.
Posted by: Gerald at April 18, 2006 07:42 PM
nit picking provoker. see how you like it.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 07:53 PM
#70 Is there really any such thing as a "purely objective observer?"
Posted by: micki at April 18, 2006 08:35 PM
/^-|
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 08:35 PM
93 no. just more or less.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 08:36 PM
Peace?
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 08:37 PM
I think an ant could be considered a "purely objective observer" as long as it isn't observing a food source.
Posted by: Saladin at April 18, 2006 08:38 PM
The roadmap to peace.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 08:39 PM
Another Tech Riddle:
Danny: What about Room 404?
Hallorann: Room 404?
Danny: You're scared of Room 404, ain't ya?
Hallorann: No I ain't.
Danny: Mr. Hallorann, what is in Room 404?
Hallorann: Nothin'! There ain't nothin' in Room 404. But you ain't got no business goin' in there anyway. So stay out! You understand? Stay out!
What's Room 404?
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 08:42 PM
An ant can have no misperceptions due to preconceptions or personal interests.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 08:45 PM
That's from Stephen King's "The Shining" There was a really gross lady in the bathtub in room 404 if I recall. But I don't know any secret tech reference.
Posted by: Saladin at April 18, 2006 08:46 PM
Why is the world a dangerous place?
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 08:47 PM
Love
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 08:50 PM
Sal, Its also the "Page Not Found" error number. I think the someone in the tech world who assigned the error number to "Page Not Found" liked that movie.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 08:52 PM
Re #95, #97: Ahha! I'm a "more purely objective observer", so long as I'm not at the dinner table. How pure can one get? ;-)>
Posted by: David B. Benson at April 18, 2006 08:53 PM
Oh, that's right! I'm not much of a techie.
Posted by: Saladin at April 18, 2006 08:53 PM
Peace in our time?
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 08:54 PM
105 I'll give you impartial. . . I'm not sure about objective.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 08:55 PM
"I don't think we have to worry about Rumsfeld, he's a ruthless little bastard isn't he?"
- Richard Nixon excerpt white house tapes.
Posted by: Saladin at April 18, 2006 08:55 PM
Sal, If you didn't remember the movie reference,I never would have put that together!
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 08:56 PM
#82
Financial firms have to send out checks for under a dollar. The problem is, if they didn't they would have a gigantic slush fund. What do you do with the money?
Posted by: Jeanne at April 18, 2006 08:58 PM
Leadership
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 08:59 PM
The allegory of the blessings of peace
How Rubinesque!
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 09:00 PM
With both barrels, Jeanne?
"Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow,........ Other than just one stock dropping by $0.09, ALL of my stocks & funds went up. This is a miracle!"
Posted by: Happy wraps up loose ends at April 18, 2006 07:19 PM
I'm glad that you're finally owning up to your real profession, Hapless. And the fact that you are sharing the secret to your "miracle growth" is a sign that maybe you actually aren't as big an idiot as you seem. I know that your expertise is in making things grow, and that some of these "stocks" are rather pleasing to the eye. Others practically grow underfoot without the slightest notice by the untrained eye (oh, look! a quarter). With the weather being a pleasant mix of warm and wet in Houston, the opportunity to advance the prosperity of the garden variety "stocks" is more than just a "sure thing."
"Important FACT: Mr. Tenet was appointed by Bill Clinton back in 1997. As was with Richard Clark, another Clinton-era dot-UN-Connectors!"
Seriously, Hapless. Lay off the fumes. Put down the crack pipe. Stop whatever mind-altering drugs you are imbibing. From the Millenium plot, plots to assassinate the Pope, blow up the RAdisson in Amman Jordan, to set off huge bombs on Mt. Nebo, attack the USS The Sullivans, and plans to blow up LAX, Big Dawg did a lot of thwarting with his badass counterterrorism machine. All this despite the dogged efforts by Republicans to get us all killed by terrorists. When Mr. Bush took office, Republicans actually succeeded in getting almost 5,000 Americans killed by terrorists (3K in the WTC and 2K more in Iraq). And that, Hapless, is a very bad thing. So is the fact that Republicans in the 80s trained and armed the two major assholes in the middle east (Osama and SAddam). Blaming President Clinton for the policies of the Republicans is a typical Conservative effort to lie themselves out of culpability.
Book Deals: I bet for GWBush's Presidency, more books by supposed `insiders' will be published than any other 8-year Presidents in our history."
Posted by: Happy, or not, w/the CIA? at April 18, 2006 07:01 PM
WIth the most secretive and lyingest administration since the Nixon years and with a Rubber Stamp congress that bends to the will of the executive branch (and the corporate elite), not a single investigation or inquiry into the scandals of the day will ever happen. Accountability is a thing of the past (or a thing of the Dems).
"If you, the Bostonian, can't understand my prose, it must mean you are the dimmest bulb in all of Mass ...."
Posted by: Happy to prototypical NE Elitist at April 18, 2006 07:31 PM
Again, blaming others for your failures is telling. The constant demolition of your talking points speaks volumes. Your spelling and syntax are actually the least of your communication problems.
Posted by: Pandemoniac at April 18, 2006 09:01 PM
Enzyme-based biological fuel cell is built
OXFORD, England, April 18 (UPI) -- Oxford University scientists have built an enzyme based biological fuel cell that takes oxygen and hydrogen from an atmosphere to power electrical devices.
The enzymes used are isolated from naturally occurring bacteria that have evolved to use hydrogen in their metabolic process. The unique features of the enzymes are that they are highly selective and tolerant of gases that poison traditional fuel cell catalysts, such as carbon monoxide and hydrogen sulphide.
Since the enzymes can be grown, they represent a cheap and renewable alternative to the expensive platinum based catalysts used by others in hydrogen fuel cells, the researchers said.
The device built by a team headed by chemistry Professor Fraser Armstrong has a fuel cell consisting of two electrodes coated with the enzymes. They are in a small glass tank containing normal air with a few percent of added hydrogen.
Since the catalysts are selective and tolerant the gases can be mixed avoiding the need for an expensive fuel separation membrane.
Armstrong says the development has broad applications as a robust fuel cell for many utility applications where cost is a major issue, clean fuel sources cannot be guaranteed, and instant power is required.
*****end of clip*****
Interesting stuff.
capt
Posted by: capt at April 18, 2006 09:02 PM
#99
History of 404
Posted by: Jeanne at April 18, 2006 09:02 PM
Peace Pole (link).
Let's get a permit to install one hundred of these in Lafayette Park.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 09:06 PM
Cool Jeanne. Thank you.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 09:07 PM
Pray for Peace
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 09:10 PM
Allegory of the Peace of Pressburg
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 09:11 PM
Peace
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 09:12 PM
"You accuse me of being the provoker maker (sic), but yet you continue to post chiding, proking (sic) comments at: 62 ...."
Posted by: LBH at April 18, 2006 07:42 PM
You can dish it out; but you can't take it. Pathetic whining from the thumbsuckers, as usual. Other than backhanded swipes at Mr. Corn, your efforts here are negligible. You used to post facts mixed with lies to defend Mr. Bush. Those days are long gone. All that remains is the lingering scent of your lies.
Posted by: Pandemoniac at April 18, 2006 09:15 PM
Peace is possible
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 09:17 PM
tom and katie had their baby - name: suri - no word on whether tom had to add salt or not.
Posted by: James Ha at April 18, 2006 09:28 PM
Yes, there is a time and a place for peace. But this ain't it.
Where is your kindegarten teacher, ....?"
Posted by: Silent Majority at April 18, 2006 02:53 PM
++++++++++++++++++++
"I like Silent Majority, he/she is any blog site owners' friend!"
Posted by: Happy finds loose ends at April 18, 2006 07:19 PM
This is the best example of the kind of inane blather that you ignoramuses typically bring to this blog. And when someone like me calls you on it, you go running to the blogpolice complaining about the lack of civil discourse. Hapless, you are the whiniest of the whiny titty-babies. You can dish it out; but you can't take even the most bland rejoinder.
13
"Bush the Decider
David the Free-Fraud Zoner"
Posted by: LBH at April 18, 2006 02:14 PM
Hapless, you are like a freekin parrot trying to get us to take Mr. Corn's intentions and efforts into account. You want us to improve the quality of posts and discussions. Then you and your ilk come here to mock Mr. Corn and make him look bad. Your motto: do as we say, not as we do.
"As for my calling an occassional name, I own up to it! In Moderation! Something to the effect (I think I've said before)...."
Posted by: Happy wraps his ears around his ass at April 18, 2006 07:19 PM
"About a third of the posts dug up by Blade @ #111 are not the Real Deals!"
Posted by: Happy on History Channel at April 15, 2006 12:30 PM
You are a lying coward, Hapless. Not only do you refuse to own up to your name-calling hypocrisy, you run in the opposite direction like a hooker evading the vice squad. You are too chickenshit to accept the fact that you have hypocritically called for civility and engaged in the very thing that you decried. And you wonder why people think you are a world class goober (or are you already aware of the rationale)?
"When something posted leads me to that occassional name-calling, it always means that person has moved into the `danger zone'."
You have been huffing mower-fumes for too long, Hapless. It's rotting your brain. Or maybe my initial diagnosis was more accurate (dementia). When you follow folks into the danger zone, you're asking for trouble, pendejo. You are practically begging for more abuse, the masochist that you are.
Posted by: Pandemoniac at April 18, 2006 09:32 PM
The baby's name, Suri, came from Hebrew, meaning "princess" or Persian, meaning "red rose", the statement said. (link)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 09:37 PM
Pande, Where are the trolls now? (link)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 09:45 PM
Lbh is at the nail salon.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 09:47 PM
Happy poses for portrait.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 09:49 PM
Don’t ! ! !
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 09:53 PM
News outlets resist Scooter Libby subpoenas
A former White House aide fighting perjury charges should not get access to reporters' notes and other newsroom material because they have no relevance to his case, several news outlets told a U.S. judge on Tuesday.
The New York Times, NBC News and Time magazine also argued that press freedom would be damaged if they were forced to hand over the material sought by former vice presidential aide Lewis "Scooter" Libby's defense team.
Libby is charged with lying to investigators as they sought to determine who leaked the identity of a CIA official after her husband accused the Bush administration of manipulating intelligence to build its case for invading Iraq.
His defense team has subpoenaed four reporters and their employers in an effort to show that CIA operative Valerie Plame was widely known to be the wife of the administration critic, former ambassador Joseph Wilson, before her identity was made public by conservative columnist Robert Novak in July 2003.
The news organizations said on Tuesday that Libby does not have a right to material that goes beyond the conversations with reporters cited in his indictment.
Although Mr. Libby has claimed a right to know what information the press corps in general possessed concerning Mrs. Wilson's affiliation with the CIA, under that theory he would be entitled to subpoena all reporters in Washington to learn what they knew and when they knew it," Time magazine said in its filing to the U.S. court in Washington.
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Posted by: Jeanne at April 18, 2006 10:16 PM
Duke lacrosse player Collin Finnerty sits next to his father Kevin Finnerty [picture] while he waits for his first court apperance in the Durham County Judicial Building on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 in Durham, N.C.
Finnerty was arrested early Tuesday on charges of raping and kidnapping a stripper hired to dance at an off-campus party. (Sara D. Davis/Associated Press)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 10:20 PM
Rape....Bobbit...
Posted by: kathleen at April 18, 2006 10:25 PM
Group files FOIA for Justice Dept. findings on White House involvement in 'phone-jamming scandal'
A Democratic group has filed a Freedom of Information Act request to obtain all findings by the Department of Justice in the probe of White House involvement in New Hampshire's "phone jamming scandal," RAW STORY has found.
"Nearly four years after high-level Republican officials broke the law to prevent people from voting, we still don't know the answer to the question: how high does this go?," Senate Majority Project Executive Director Mike Gehrke said in a press release. "One thing is for certain, the Department of Justice does not investigate the White House after 'normal Election Day activity.'".
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This is what Republicans are doing for the nation and two the nation. When really important things are on the table we are dealing with criminal investigations. This is on a daily basis and there is always something new.
Posted by: Jeanne at April 18, 2006 10:26 PM
Tuesday night funnies, copied and pasted from DKos:
"The bad news is Iran is capable of making a nuclear bomb. The good news is they have to drop it from a camel."
---David Letterman
"According to Washington insiders, White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan could be the next official to leave the Bush administration. McClellan says he'd like to spend more time lying for his family."
---Amy Poehler
"A UCLA study shows 7% of people still believe in the Easter Bunny. I believe these are the same people who believe President Bush is doing a good job in Iraq."
---Jay Leno
O'Reilly, I've never liked the term "troll." I never thought it an apt descriptor for the Bush-oisie. I see them more as a Happy band of simpletons (obviously, the one on the right is very Happy). "Clown," I believe, is a more accurate appellation. They give me the giggles. My daughter sez they give her the creeps. I can dig that.
This gave me the creeps. I can't imagine putting my daughter through the ceremony. ANd for some strange reason, this gave me the creeps, too. Not the Mehlman aspect, just the way Patriotboy goes after him.
I really dig seeing this. Never liked him. Never will.
As the ship of state tips and plunges, this little chair goes over here and that little chair goes over there; but the bloodied face of Field Marshall von Rumsfeld remains the figurehead.
Yup, that's why Gallup affirms his status as Mr. 36%.
Posted by: Pandemoniac at April 18, 2006 10:30 PM
Democratic Congressmen ask Bush about reports of US military operations in Iran
RAW STORY
Published: Monday April 17, 2006
Two Democratic Congressmen have written letters to President Bush on the heels of a growing number of news reports that American forces may have already begun military operations in Iran, RAW STORY has found.
Both House members express concern that if the stories are true, then the president may have acted unilaterally without first obtaining proper authorization from Congress.
"Recently, it has been reported that U.S. troops are conducting military operations in Iran," wrote Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) last Friday. Kucinich is the Ranking Democrat on the House Government Reform Subcommittee on National Security, Emerging Threats and International Relations.
"If true, it appears that you have already made the decision to commit U.S. military forces to a unilateral conflict with Iran, even before direct or indirect negotiations with the government of Iran had been attempted, without UN support and without authorization from the U.S. Congress," Kucinich continued.
"I am the decider and I have made the decision" Bush said. JUST KIDDING
more at raw story
Posted by: kathleen at April 18, 2006 10:31 PM
Dear President Bush:
Recently, it has been reported that U.S. troops are conducting military operations in Iran. If true, it appears that you have already made the decision to commit U.S. military forces to a unilateral conflict with Iran, even before direct or indirect negotiations with the government of Iran had been attempted, without UN support and without authorization from the U.S. Congress.
The presence of U.S. troops in Iran constitutes a hostile act against that country. At a time when diplomacy is urgently needed, it escalates an international crisis. It undermines any attempt to negotiate with the government of Iran. And it will undermine U.S. diplomatic efforts at the U.N.
Furthermore, it places U.S. troops occupying neighboring Iraq in greater danger. The achievement of stability and a transition to Iraqi security control will be compromised, reversing any progress that has been cited by the Administration.
It would be hard to believe that such an imprudent decision had been taken, but for the number and variety of sources confirming it. In the last week, the national media have reported that you have in fact commenced a military operation in Iran. Today, retired Air Force Col. Sam Gardiner related on CNN that the Iranian Ambassador to the IAEA, Aliasghar Soltaniyeh, reported to him that the Iranians have captured dissident forces who have confessed to working with U.S. troops in Iran. Earlier in the week, Seymour Hersh reported that a U.S. source had told him that U.S. marines were operating in the Baluchi, Azeri and Kurdish regions of Iran.
Any military deployment to Iran would constitute an urgent matter of national significance. I urge you to report immediately to Congress on all activities involving American forces in Iran. I look forward to a prompt response.
Sincerely, Dennis J. Kucinich Member of Congress
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Posted by: kathleen at April 18, 2006 10:34 PM
#134
to this nation not two this nation. Jeez
Posted by: Jeanne at April 18, 2006 10:38 PM
Oh, oh...Pande sez to a resident troll "you're asking for trouble, pendejo. You are practically begging for more abuse, the masochist that you are."
Maybe the troll is Snotty McClellan?!! Snotty loves abuse as evidenced by his willingness to take abuse from the "librul" media, tho he doesn't get enough of it.
Posted by: micki at April 18, 2006 10:40 PM
mad clown fractal
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 10:42 PM
#124 tom and katie had their baby
tom and katie who?
Posted by: micki at April 18, 2006 10:44 PM
Ignoring The Assault On Gaza
When human rights activists claim that the U.S. is sabotaging any potential peace process, they donÕ´ mean just the stuff that reaches the headlines, like stopping crucial aid to the new Palestinian Authority government.This morning, HaÕ¡retz reports that the U.S. has blocked a U.N. Security Council resolution condemning IsraelÕ³ recent, continuous, indiscriminate shelling of the Gaza Strip.
Since last Friday, Israel has been pouring more than 300 artillery shells a day into Gaza, the most densely-populated region on the planet. ThatÕ³ 2,100 shells. At least 18 Gazans, including Khadeel Ghabeen, an 8-year-old girl, have been killed. Scores have been wounded, including 11 other members of GhabeenÕ³ family.
The entire month of April so far has been marked by shellings and missile attacks by Israeli airships and naval vessels, including the destruction of PA President Mahmoud AbbasÕ helicopter pad in Gaza as he came to visit the strip.
at Tom Paine
Posted by: kathleen at April 18, 2006 10:46 PM
Ignoring The Assault On Gaza
When human rights activists claim that the U.S. is sabotaging any potential peace process, they donÕ´ mean just the stuff that reaches the headlines, like stopping crucial aid to the new Palestinian Authority government.This morning, HaÕ¡retz reports that the U.S. has blocked a U.N. Security Council resolution condemning IsraelÕ³ recent, continuous, indiscriminate shelling of the Gaza Strip.
Since last Friday, Israel has been pouring more than 300 artillery shells a day into Gaza, the most densely-populated region on the planet. ThatÕ³ 2,100 shells. At least 18 Gazans, including Khadeel Ghabeen, an 8-year-old girl, have been killed. Scores have been wounded, including 11 other members of GhabeenÕ³ family.
The entire month of April so far has been marked by shellings and missile attacks by Israeli airships and naval vessels, including the destruction of PA President Mahmoud AbbasÕ helicopter pad in Gaza as he came to visit the strip.
at counterpunch
Posted by: kathleen at April 18, 2006 10:48 PM
Back when Mr. Corn bagged Mr. Novak for outing V. Plame, Perfesser Reynolds at InstaPundit directed his goobers to this site; and they came sloshing through here, talking nonsense about Plame not being a covert agent. Glenn Reynolds always has some rather entertaining theories on his blog. If you go through his older stuff, you can find him saying some mindbendingly hilarious crap. Glenn Reynolds, writing in Reason in 1999:
"[O]ur current situation--with so many foreign troop deployments that even military buffs can't keep track of them all and with wars initiated essentially on presidential whim--would have horrified the Framers."
And speaking of rightwing bloggers, the folks at Time's 2004 Blog of the Year want to criminalize prize-winning journalists. Something about the Truth being a danger to the citizenry.
The Truth never made its way past the lips of a Conservative. Too much trouble, too much haarrrrd work, telling the Truth.
The Big Money Media isn't helping matters any. They hide the ugly facts about the Republican party.
Democrats keep screaming about investigating and uncovering the Truth. Republicans won't have any Truthtelling. Not on their watch. Not while they're in the majority. Mr. Bush must be protected, kept in a bubble, wrapped in a cocoon of safety.
Posted by: Pandemoniac at April 18, 2006 10:55 PM
Wild but True?
Dan Froomkin | washingtonpost.com | 4/11/06
President Bush dismissed reports that he is planning to attack Iran as "wild speculation" yesterday. But that's a far cry from saying it flatly ain't so.
And Bush -- who, it is now abundantly clear, secretly decided to go to war in Iraq long before he admitted as much in public -- lacks credibility on such issues.
One report, from Seymour Hersh in the New Yorker, describes the president as feeling a sense of personal obligation to overthrow the government of Iran. A similar sense of mission in Iraq -- shared only with his confidantes -- prompted the relentless march to war there even as the administration claimed it was hoping for a diplomatic solution.
Read more here (link)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 10:56 PM
April 24, 2006 Issue
Copyright ? 2006 The American Conservative
Insecurity With Insolvency
The presidentÕ³ National Security Strategy is vague on fiscal details and ignores geopolitical realities.
By Andrew J. Bacevich
Taken at face value as an actual blueprint for policy, President BushÕ³ new National Security Strategy, which appeared last month, flunks. It fails because it disregards the first principle of strategy: the imperative of balancing means and ends. The presidentÕ³ latest effort to define AmericaÕ³ purpose in the world comes chock-full of declarations, exhortations, and gaseous generalities, many of them lifted from the 2002 version of this document. But this 49-page report, which is almost entirely devoid of facts, never bothers to consider how we got into our current mess in the first place or how weÕ²e going to pay for the ÒŒong WarÓ that the president has contrived as the best way to get us out.
I donÕ´ mean to give the impression that the document is entirely lacking in specifics. Careful readers will learn here that the administration has launched a three-year, $900 million initiative to provide clean drinking water to impoverished Africans. To Òµndertake transformational changeÓ in the developing world, it is also contributing $1.5 billion to the Millennium Challenge Corporation. And itÕ³ kicking in $1.2 billion for the effort to reduce the incidence of malaria worldwide. What the National Security Strategy does not note is that the combined spending on all of these worthy programs equals the amount weÕ²e pouring down the rat hole known as Iraq every two weeks. In fact, anyone interested in the current or projected costs of the Iraq War, or of the Afghan War for that matter, will have to look elsewhere. The strategists inhabiting the White House do not bother themselves with such trivialities.
War costs are not the only figures that this document delicately overlooks. Readers of the National Security Strategy will find no mention of U.S. government indebtedness, currently hovering above $8.3 trillion, including an increase of $1.1 trillion since the Republican Party gained control of the executive and legislative branches in 2001. Similarly, the authors of this document offer no data on U.S. trade relations, although last yearճ current accounts deficit topped $800 billion, over 7 percent of the nationճ GDP. The numbers for 2006 promise to be worse still, but you wonմ learn that from White House strategists. Although balancing the federal budget once ranked as a core Republican valueѲemember Ikeճ promise of ҳecurity with solvencyӿѴhe Bush team does not trouble itself with such irksome details. The National Security Strategy is silent on the size of the federal deficit, which last year came in at a whopping $427 billion.
Great article at american conservative
Posted by: kathleen at April 18, 2006 10:57 PM
This really cracked me up!
When Snotty McClellan was asked if he would resign under Josh Bolten's plan to "reenergize the team," Snotty said: "I never speculate about personnel measures."
Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert must be ecstatic that this material just keeps on coming...
Posted by: micki at April 18, 2006 11:01 PM
After a five-month trial, a federal jury convicted Ryan on all 18 felony charges against him, including racketeering conspiracy, mail fraud, tax evasion, and making false statements. During his tenure as both secretary of state and governor, Ryan was found to have steered state contracts to cronies in return for cash and gifts, misused campaign funds, and rigged the Illinois inspector general's office to cover up his tracks. Patrick J. Fitzgerald, the special counsel in the CIA leak case, who is also the U.S. attorney for Illinois, called the former governor's actions "a low watermark of public service." (link)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 11:11 PM
Snotty said: "I never speculate about personal measures."
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 11:15 PM
Blade:
Your rants are becoming reruns!
On a great once- or twice-a-year day like today, I am quite forgiving and just want to thank you for laying plenty of tributes to us. You are always good on about a 4 to 1 Return! I wish you were a `stock' play! I can short you or go long and score every time!
If "you can't get no, satisfaction" (Stones) elsewhere, you are welcome to keep on bashing us Righties. It hurts so good (Melloncamp)! We are here to please!
Posted by: Happy, to the Nth Power at April 18, 2006 11:15 PM
Kathleen & Saladin -- you won't be "happy" to hear this, if you haven't already...tho, it's just a "possibility" at this point.
Snotty may be leaving and one of the possible replacements is Dan Senor who was a flack for the Coalition Provisional Authority.
¥ In 1993 Senor did an internship
Ê(http://www.aipac.org/documents/internship.html) at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, a powerful pro-Israel lobby organization which some regard as being affiliated to the Likud party. AIPAC's website quotes him as saying: "Whether I was learning the ins and outs of Washington with my fellow interns or attending briefings on Capitol Hill, my internship at AIPAC prepared me for my work in politics".
His sister, Wendy Senor Singer, heads AIPAC's office in Jerusalem. His brother-in-law, Saul Singer, is the very right-wing opinion editor of the Jerusalem Post.
¥ Senor is listed as a directorÊ(http://www.usibex.org/directors.cfm) on the website of USIBEX, the US-Israel Business Exchange. It describes him as a Senior Associate of the Carlyle Group. It is not clear from the website if this information is still current.
¥ Senor worked for the Carlyle Group as a venture capitalist from 2001 to 2003.Ê(http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2003/0312.whoswho.html) The Carlyle Group is a venture capital company specializing in defence and industry which has strong ties to the Bush family.
¥ Before going to Baghdad, Senor was briefly deputy to White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan.
Posted by: micki at April 18, 2006 11:16 PM
A "Pulitzer Prize for Treason"
Glenn Greenwald | 4/18/06
Yesterday, James Risen and Eric Lichtblau received well-deserved Pulitzer Prizes for "national reporting" based on their (year-long-delayed) disclosure of the President's illegal NSA eavesdropping program. That award has set off a new slew of bitter commentary from Bush supporters, including Bennett, proclaiming that Risen and Lichtblau belong in prison. On his radio show this morning, the great free press crusader Bennett said: "I think what they did is worthy of jail."
(link)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 11:28 PM
Ms. Saladin, we have CDs at work that we use to "reimage" computers back to their original state. Data is saved on a server or mainframe; so there are no personal files to worry about. With a personal PC, I know the frustration of wanting to "start fresh" without losing valuable files. Backup is my friend.
Micki, I know Grand Dame Strayhorn worries about the abuse that her baby must endure. I suspect her desire to run roughshod over the GOP in Texas has something to do with her son being sacrificed at the altar of the White House Press briefing room. I read and reread, the story about the possible Military Coup, but I just couldn't get into it. I know way too many loyal, patriotic military folks to believe that they would contemplate altering the power structure that currently exists. The really sad part about Field Marshall von Rumsfeld is the fact that he has so many recent military interventions to learn from: Bosnia, Mogadishu, Haiti, Iraq pt. I, Afghanistan, Vietnam. None of the lessons of the previous nation-building efforts seem to have sunken in. It's like he's purposely trying to screw things up. He's offered to resign. Lots of other folks have talked about getting him fired. Mr. Bush just loves to rally around his losers.
O'Reilly, I don't know what it says about me, but it seems that a better name for that fractal would be "aerial view of a stripper wearing a fedora."
"Your rants are becoming reruns! ... you are welcome to keep on bashing us Righties. It hurts so good (Melloncamp)! We are here to please!"
Posted by Happy, to the Nth Power at April 18, 2006 11:15 PM
Your ongoing hypocrisy and your refusal to own up to your lying ways makes the plaint a rerun. Quit yer whiny titty-baby routine. Try telling the truth every oncet in a while. You'll get a different result. Forgiving? Forgive me for pointing out the glaring flaws in your wildly idiotic comments? I forgive you for being a walking GOP talking point. You oughta try reading a bit more and posting an original thought. You might like it even more than the ritual abuse.
Posted by: Pandemoniac at April 18, 2006 11:30 PM
#135
Pande,
If my dad had been forced to take me to a father daughter ball he would have been outside with all the other dads having a smoke. He would have been bored to tears. His mind would have been on the golf course. That's if you managed to get him there.
Yeah, on second thought there is NO WAY my dad would have gone to a purity ball. He would have said, "Go if you want to. I'm not going."
My husband on the other hand would have looked at me if I suggested taking our daughters to such a thing and he would have said "WHAAAAAT?"
Now if the ball was a "I promise not to screw up so bad that I am constantly coming for a bailout" ball my husband and my dad would both have gone and done a jig.
I did however dance with my dad on his 81st birthday. Benny Goodman. Big Band. When I was a kid my dad took me fishing.
What normal father daughter goes to a purity ball and reads things like this from a card?
I pledge to remain sexually pure...until the day I give myself as a wedding gift to my husband. ... I know that God requires this of me.. that he loves me. and that he will reward me for my faithfulness.
And this is what Daddy says in turn:
I, (daughter’s name)’s father, choose before God to cover my daughter as her authority and protection in the area of purity. I will be pure in my own life as a man, husband and father. I will be a man of integrity and accountability as I lead, guide and pray over my daughter and as the high priest in my home. This covering will be used by God to influence generations to come.
Yikes! I know this is another person's culture and I need to respect it but....the kid in the picture looked like she was about 7 years old. That is creepy, very creepy.
Posted by: Jeanne at April 18, 2006 11:34 PM
stripper wearing a fedora. . . the fedora comes off last.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 11:35 PM
Ron Paul: Iran is the next Neocon Target (link)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 11:36 PM
Keith Olbermann awarded Michelle Malkin The "World's Worst," today for her posting private phone numbers from the student's at UC Santa Cruz. (video)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 18, 2006 11:39 PM
What was interesting to me about the military coup article was that it was brought up at all. This administration is so extreme that people now have to be wondering where the boundry lines are. Or maybe if the boundy lines really exist.
If they do not exist what does the nation have in place to keep this administration from doing what it is doing? For instance how do we stop the Bush administration from starting a war with Iran? Is that there intention? Maybe, maybe not. What are they doing that we don't know about? When will congress finally say, that's enough? Or will the congress continue to give the green light?
Posted by: Jeanne at April 19, 2006 12:07 AM
THE REAL WMD'S IN IRAQ - OURS
Weapons of mass destruction are all over Iraq. Iraqi children are playing among them every day. According to Iraqi doctors, many are developing cancer as a result. The WMD in question is depleted uranium (DU). Left over after natural uranium has been processed, DU is 1.7 times denser than lead - effective in penetrating armored vehicles such as tanks. After a DU shell strikes, it penetrates before exploding into a burning vapor that turns to dust.
"Depleted uranium has a half life of 4.7 billion years - that means thousands upon thousands of Iraqi children will suffer for tens of thousands of years to come. This is what I call terrorism," says Dr Ahmad Hardan.
As a special scientific adviser to the World Health Organization, the United Nations and the Iraqi Ministry of Health, Dr Hardan is the man who documented the effects of depleted uranium in Iraq between 1991 and 2002. U.S. forces admit to using at least 300 tons of D.U. ordinance in Gulf War I, with up to six times that amount in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
When a loved one is diagnosed with cancer, it can dramatically alter the entire fabric of family life. The emotional impact can be huge. Imagine having nine members of your family with malignancies at the same time. Welcome to Basra, Iraq.
....At one point after the war, a Basra hospital reported treating upwards of 600 children per day with symptoms of radiation sickness. 600 children per day?
The widespread use of DU weapons was not limited to Iraq. The Uranium Medical Research Center (UMRC), founded by Dr. Asaf Durakovic, a former U.S. Army Colonel, did extensive field studies in Afghanistan just after the invasion. Excerpts from their field reports read:
"We took both soil and biological samples, and found considerable presence in urine samples of radioactivity; the heavy concentration astonished us. They were beyond our wildest imagination."......."The UMRC field team was shocked by the breadth of public health impacts coincident with the bombing. Without exception, at every bombsite investigated, people are ill. A significant portion of the civilian population presents symptoms consistent with internal contamination by uranium."
...Dr. Durakovic stated, "The [U.S.] Veteran's Administration asked me to lie about the risks of incorporating depleted uranium in the human body ...uranium does cause cancer, uranium does cause mutation, and uranium does kill. If we continue with the irresponsible contamination of the biosphere, the denial of the fact that human life is endangered by the deadly uranium isotope, then we are doing disservice to ourselves, disservice to the truth, disservice to God and to all the generations who follow."
Living in Iraq under Saddam Hussein was pretty bad much of the time, and being ruled by the Taliban in Afghanistan was no picnic either, but DU is worse. It's not safe even to breathe. It's the ultimate tyranny.
Posted by: Jeanne at April 19, 2006 12:28 AM
His whole presidency, his whole muscle-bound adventurism in Iraq, has been designed to prevent him from being labeled a wimp, as his dad was.
Mr. Bush's pretense — that he was just following the advice of the military when he endorsed Rummy's inadequate troop levels — rings hollow now that the former generals have spoken out about the defense secretary's airless policy of coercion.
Convinced Iraq was all but won, Rummy prodded Tommy Franks to cancel the final Army division in the war plan, the First Cavalry Division.
(link)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 12:38 AM
micki 151, same shit, different day. It just never changes.
Jeanne 159, see, they were right all along!
Posted by: Saladin at April 19, 2006 01:10 AM
141-
tom cruise and his child bride katie holmes - tom was supposedly going to eat the placenta "because it's probably very nutricious"
Posted by: James Ha at April 19, 2006 01:19 AM
nutritious^
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Great lies have the burden of truth pressing upon them, constantly, incrementally, compounding weight like interest. Truth crushes the lie slowly and then the resounding crash occurs suddenly. Years later, students will laugh and wonder how anyone could ever be so stupid as to believe a discredited lie.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
- - Schopenhauer.
Posted by: James Ha at April 19, 2006 01:59 AM
Here we go again. They've already set up the Iran-version of WHIG, called the ISOG for 'Iran-Syria Operations Group.
IRAN-SYRIA OPERATIONS GROUP
Although a spokesman for the State Department's Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs (NEA) declines to comment on its existence, and the press has yet to carry a single mention of it, last month the administration formed something called the Iran-Syria Operations Group (ISOG)--a group headed by Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Liz Cheney, the purpose of which is to encourage regime change in Iran. It's no secret that Cheney has over $80 million at her disposal to promote democracy in Iran. But ISOG isn't simply about promoting democracy. It's about helping to craft official policy, doing so not with one but two countries in its sights, and creating a policymaking apparatus that parallels--and skirts--Foggy Bottom's suspect Iran desk.
Posted by: Alan at April 19, 2006 02:03 AM
Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Liz Cheney
I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree
Posted by: James Ha at April 19, 2006 02:22 AM
First; he was " A Uniter,not a divider, then he was a decider..
I personaally think he is an overrider,,,,,of our Constitutional Rights.
But hell, all I can do is write reps and vote .................right???
Democrats for GOD's sake give us a platform,,,and fast..
We are chafing at the bit...
Please don't wimp out to Lobbies again.
If you do, WE WILL VOTE YOU OUT..
The AMERICAN PEOPLE WAN'T CHANGE..
Ignoring this has been historically disasterous.
They are taking the money and running....
Our voice doesn't buy em a private jet to Scottland for a round or two of golf..
The ONLY thing that can save us now, is tightening border security, and passing MEANINFUL CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM.
As long as massive Lobby money is in DC, we can NOT TRUST OUR GOVERNMENT. Havent for years.
Without this, there is NO HOPE FOR DEMOCRACY AS WE KNOW IT.
Posted by: titchaba at April 19, 2006 03:15 AM
How Big Is Bush's Big Government?
When teaching economics I sometimes find it beneficial to use government budget data to apply the lessons of economics to our current political circumstances. The students tend to be surprised at the size of our government, the amount of tax revenues that we "pay," and the amount of government debt. The following numbers get the point across.
We, in the United States, live under the rule of the largest civil government, measured in budgetary terms, in history. Federal spending alone in fiscal year 2006 is expected to be over $2.7 trillion, which means the federal government spends $7.4 billion a day or $5.1 million in every minute of the year. This is 815 times the level of federal spending in 1930.
Things have been getting worse recently. In the first five years of the Bush regime, federal spending increased 45%. Readers of Mises.org may remember that they were warned about Bush's fiscal irresponsibility before he took office. For comparison's sake, during the eight Clinton years nominal federal spending increased 32%, and under Bush I federal spending increased 23% in four years. In the 2000 election, Bush II promised to shovel money into all sorts of programs Ñ and he's kept that promise.
Since 1930, in addition to the spending increases, the feds also drove prices up more than 1,100%, according to the Consumer Price Index. Also, we should suspect that these inflation numbers are low since government officials have an incentive to underestimate inflation.
More HERE
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Our government is too big. It would not matter one lick if ours was the smallest government on the planet. It is too big and too much going to the military. The military spends way too much on failed and flawed research and development while sending our troops into harms way with substandard equipment, poor or no armor.
Big government only serves the daddy warbucks and the fat cat cronies. That is true no matter what party or ideology.
capt
Posted by: capt at April 19, 2006 04:13 AM
The decider-in-chief: A drunk with power
I'm having a hard time keeping up with all of George W. Bush's titles.
He likes to call himself the commander-in-chief, a hypocritical stance since he did everything in his and his daddy's power to avoid going to war during the Vietnam era. Perhaps coward-in-chief would be more appropriate.
He also loves to call himself a "war time president," another blatant use of fantasy since the only war he manages is the one he created himself based on lies and fabricated rationale.
Now he's got a new, self-indulgent title.
"I'm the decider, and I decide what is best," Bush declared in a sort-of-stirring defense of embattled defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld.
Decider-in-chief? A key statement to the arrogance that is George W. Bush.
"I decide what is best," he says.
For Bush the game has always been about power. Absolute power. Dictatorial power.
This is the American President who said: "it would be much easier if this was a dictatorship, as long as I get to be the dictator."
At the time some people thought he was joking. Those who know him knew he wasn't.
"Of all the Presidents I've served or observed, George W. Bush is the least receptive to the opinion of others," says political scientist George Harleigh, who served in both the Nixon and Reagan administrations. "He has no interest in what others think and he doesn't listen to the advice of experts or professionals."
In 1999, while completing a profile of Harris County, Texas, Judge Robert Eckels, I interviewed a number of Texas political observers. Republican and Democrat alike agreed that then Gov. George W. Bush was stubborn, arrogant and used to having his own way.
"He's an asshole," said Tom Delaney, who worked on Bush's second gubernatorial campaign. "He can smile at you while cutting off your balls."
Dr. Justin Frank, a prominent George Washington University psychiatrist and author of the book, Bush on the Couch: Inside the Mind of the President, says Bush has a cruel, sadistic streak that goes back to his childhood when a young George gleefully bragged about dissecting cats, cutting them open while they were still alive.
The boy who tortured cats, Dr. Frank says, grew up into an alcohol-abusing bully who strikes out at anyone who opposes him.
All one has to do is confront the President and the bully emerges.
"To actually directly confront him in a clear way, to bring him out, so you would really see the bully, and you would also see the fear," he says.
Dr. Frank also believes Bush, an alcoholic who brags that he gave up booze without help from groups like Alcoholics Anonymous, may be drinking again.
"Two questions that the press seems particularly determined to ignore have hung silently in the air since before Bush took office," Dr. Frank says. "Is he still drinking? And if not, is he impaired by all the years he did spend drinking? Both questions need to be addressed in any serious assessment of his psychological state."
As a recovering alcoholic (11 years, 10 months and 13 days sober), I agree with Dr. Frank's assessment. Bush demonstrates many of the traits of a drinker who has relapsed: An inability to focus, moments where he goes "blank" and can't respond, incoherent sentences and flashes of anger when challenged.
"The pattern of blame and denial, which recovering alcoholics work so hard to break, seems to be ingrained in the alcoholic personality. It's rarely limited to his or her drinking," Dr. Frank says. "The habit of placing blame and denying responsibility is so prevalent in George W. Bush's personal history that it is apparently triggered by even the mildest threat."
So it's no surprise that the self-declared "decider-in-chief" is an arrogant hothead who probably sneaks a drink or two during the day. He's a paranoid, fear-mongering bully who openly abuses power and, thanks to the gullible American voting public, he can, and will continue to, abuse that power.
A drunk: That's the title George W. Bush deserves most. He is a drunk even if he doesn't get blasted on booze. He's drunk with power and that's the most dangerous kind of drunk. When a drunk who gets high on power sits in the White House, the rest of us wake up with the hangover.
Posted by: capt at April 19, 2006 04:51 AM
WMR
The only "voices" Bush hears are from his own drug and alcohol damaged brain. He may believe the voices are from the great ether but they are the same types of voices those who are incarcerated in mental institutions around our nation hear on a daily basis. Bush has decided to stick with the sexual torturer Rumsfeld. According to informed European judicial sources, after they leave office, Bush, Rumsfeld, and others in the Bush regime can expect to be the subjects of international and foreign arrest warrants for war crimes, murder, and other crimes.
Posted by: capt at April 19, 2006 05:05 AM
One of the bad guys slips into the country unnoticed. Will these clowns ever learn?
"State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said on Tuesday he had heard that Mohammad Nahavandian, a senior aide to Iran's top nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani, was in Washington but he had not met U.S. officials and his presence was being looked into."
Homeland Security, please pick up the white courtesy phone. Homeland Security ....
Time to hit the road.
Posted by: Pandemoniac at April 19, 2006 06:43 AM
Pan, I don't know why they should be concerned. What with wide open borders and the fact that govt. fools were bending over backwards to give known Al-CIAda operatives passports, evidently it was much safer for the so-called 9/11 "hijackers" to learn how to operate jet liners in the safety of US based simulators, I'm sure the next "drill" will turn out to be perfectly harmless and innocent. Though drills have had a nasty habit of going live in the past few years.
Posted by: Saladin at April 19, 2006 09:45 AM
Former Gov Ryan Guilty on All Counts
Those of you not from the middle America may have been wondering where Patrick Fitzgerald has been hiding.
He's been in Chicago trying a racketeering case against the former Illinois Governor and the Governor's buddy. Today, he convicted both men on all counts . For Ryan, this was 22 counts, which is an impressive job. Most juries faced with so many counts will look to dump at least some of them. Ryan faces more than 22 years in prision.
But what should be most interesting to all of us is this,
Ryan was accused of steering big-money state contracts and leases, including a $25 million IBM computer deal, to his friends and political insiders while he was secretary of state in the 1990s and then as governor starting in 1999.
In return for help, he was rewarded with annual winter vacations in Jamaica, stays in Cancun and Palm Springs and gifts ranging from a golf bag to $145,000 in loans to his brother's business, prosecutors said.
Warner, 67, was one of those beneficiaries and raked in $3 million from Ryan-era deals,...
Sound familiar?
(link)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 09:58 AM
McClelland Resigns!
(but nobody takes him seriously)
Posted by: Hajji at April 19, 2006 10:06 AM
W
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 10:07 AM
PRESIDENT BUSH NOW CAUGHT IN THE TANGLED WEB OF DECEPTION HE SPUN
Bill Gallagher
DETROIT -- President George W. Bush's character is diseased. Serial lies spew from his forked tongue as the result of a damaged mind and personality that will not permit him to face the truth. He lies about leaks and leaks about lies.
(link)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 10:11 AM
The Touchable and the Untouchable
A Tale of Two Members of Congress and the Capitol Hill Police
By JEFFREY BLANKFORT
CounterPunch
It's another tale of two members of Congress, of racism and hypocrisy, and it serves as a reminder, as if one was needed, that Washington, D.C., is in the heart of the old Confederacy.
Rep. Tom Lantos and Rep. Cynthia McKinney are members of the Democratic Party, but there the similarities end.
Lantos represents South San Francisco and San Mateo County. He is white, Jewish, Hungarian born and portrays himself as "the only Holocaust survivor ever elected to Congress." He is an unabashed supporter of Israel. That makes him, of course, an "untouchable."
He is also the ranking Democrat on the powerful House International Relations Committee, which provides him with unusual opportunities to help Israel. He sponsors repressive legislation targeting the Palestinians and Israel's Middle East adversaries and, when called upon by Israel, he represents it in countries where Israel has no diplomatic relations, a questionable activity by a member of the U.S. Congress.
McKinney, of course, is African-American, and one of the few members of the Congressional Black Caucus who has not been cowed into submission by the Democratic Party and the only one who has refused to genuflect to the Israel lobby. But, again, this story isn't about Israel, although its specter and that of its lobby seem ever present.
To make matters worse - for McKinney, not for the pursuit of truth and justice - she has refused to accept the official Bush administration explanation of the events of 9-11, and she has participated in events alongside of other critics of that narrative who have been marginalized not only by both political parties and the mainstream media but by the "gatekeepers" of the left.
She has also been outspoken - while the Democratic Party has been largely silent - about the disenfranchisement of Black voters in Florida in the last two presidential elections, which is the subject of a new film about her on that subject, "American Blackout," that opened in February at the Sundance Film Festival. In other words, she is considered a "trouble-maker" in a colony of "go-along-to-get-alongs."
The Democrat Party leadership was overjoyed when McKinney was defeated for re-election in 2002. After she had served five terms, AIPAC decided to make an example of her for having criticized Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. That led to a stream of money flowing to her opponent, Denise Majette, from wealthy out of town Jewish donors.
That, a steady drumbeat of attacks by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, plus an estimated 40,000 votes from Republicans who crossed over to vote in the Democratic primary were enough to turn the tide against her. The Democrats were, in turn, mortified two years later when, without their help, the plucky McKinney ran and was re-elected to her seat.
To show the party's displeasure, McKinney was denied the return of her seniority by a tight-lipped Nancy Pelosi, the San Francisco congresswoman who serves as the Democrats' minority House whip.
Now what about the "untouchable" Tom Lantos; how did he get into this story?
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Hit and run of an 8 year old maybe? This is the type of behavior I expect from bushco. Another reason to despise those wishy-washy, spineless, ass-kissing dems!
Posted by: Saladin at April 19, 2006 10:18 AM
If we had a real Senate Intelligence Committee, instead of that horrible excuse for one run by that shameless White House whore, Sen. Pat Roberts, the panel would be demanding to know who got the technical team report on the trailers and what was done with it.
I'm sure Rumsfeld saw the report, since the Pentagon's Defense Intelligence Agency assembled the technical team. Poor Rummy. All those generals are calling for his head.
What took them so long?
Rumsfeld is the worst defense secretary in American history and certainly one of the worst military strategists since the invention of gunpowder.
The very name Rumsfeld should mean an arrogant person bursting with incompetence. Bush is right to keep him on board. Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rice are rats richly deserving to be with their captain on his sinking ship of state.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 10:20 AM
Bush and leaks - Bush owes full accounting after misleading the nation
For nearly three years, President George W. Bush has repeatedly told Americans that he did not know who in his administration leaked classified information that was used to undermine an administration critic, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson.
Among the information that was eventually leaked from the White House was the identity of Wilson?s wife, Valerie Plame, who was an undercover CIA agent, a fact that led to a criminal investigation by federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald. That investigation has now revealed that President Bush not only knew about the leak of much of that classified information, he authorized it.
In other words, for nearly three years, President Bush has not only lied to the American people about the facts behind this case, but in so doing he has misled prosecutors who have been investigating it. The revelations, which came over this past weekend, also demonstrate beyond any doubt that President Bush did, in fact, manipulate the release of intelligence information to bolster his case for invading Iraq.
(link)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 10:23 AM
And unlike the government whistleblowers who have revealed potential administration wrongdoing in several other areas, which was done out of concern for the public interest, Bush's decision to leak portions of a National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) was purely for self-serving political purposes.
And the administration's actions continue a pattern of selective use of intelligence information to bolster their case for invading Iraq. In this instance, the administration leaked portions of the NIE that supported its claims that Iraq had sought uranium ore from Niger. Had they declassified all of the intelligence on the subject, it would have revealed what is now widely established - namely that the administration's Niger claims were bogus.
The president's actions could not be more appalling. Not only did he authorize the leak of information he knew to be false, he lied for almost three years about doing so. It is lies, hypocrisy, and double standards all rolled into one.
Of course, lying to the American people is one thing. But misleading federal prosecutors is a criminal act. While President Bush was not placed under oath during his 70 minute interview by Fitzgerald, that only protects the president from a perjury charge. If he told the same lies to prosecutors that he's been telling the public for almost three years, he would almost certainly be guilty of obstruction of justice or of making false statements. While a sitting president can not be indicted, if he, in fact, misled Fitzgerald's investigators, he could and should be held accountable by the only means spelled out constitutionally, which is impeachment or censure.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 10:28 AM
O'Reilly 175, I posted that yesterday. It was a great rant.
Posted by: Saladin at April 19, 2006 10:29 AM
#169 So, now the SPLC is "suspect?" BS.
Posted by: micki at April 19, 2006 10:34 AM
Jeanne & Pande -- yeah, a military coup d'etat seems like an impossibility in the good ole USA, but if one thinks about a coup d'etat less in military terms but more in terms of the "alteration of an existing government by a small group" I can see the possibility of a coup escalates exponentially.
Posted by: micki at April 19, 2006 10:43 AM
Sal, I thought it sounded familiar. Ooops.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 10:48 AM
No biggie, two chances to read it, it really shouldn't be missed.
Posted by: Saladin at April 19, 2006 10:51 AM
Snotty McClellan said to bush, "I have given it my all sir and I have given you my all sir, and I will continue to do so as we transition to a new press secretary." Then added, "Now, I can spend more time with Jeff Gann...er, my family."
Additionally, in an ongoing shakeup of the president's staff, longtime confidant and adviser Karl Rove is giving up oversight of policy development to focus more on politics with the approach of the fall midterm elections, a senior administration official said Wednesday.
Oh, oh. Karl is going to have more time to do more dirty election work, or is it election dirty work.
Posted by: micki at April 19, 2006 10:51 AM
The decider-in-chief thanked McClellan for "a job well done."
"I thought he handled his assignment with class, integrity," Bush said. "It's going to be hard to replace Scott, but nevertheless he made the decision and I accepted it. One of these days, he and I are going to be rocking in chairs in Texas and talking about the good old days."
No! bush is off his rocker! Here's the scene: bush is in the hot seat at The Hague and Snotty is on a Reality TV Show -- with Helen Thomas, David Gregory, Bill Moyers, Molly Ivins, Sy Hersh, Terry Moran -- and, for good measure, David Corn.
Posted by: micki at April 19, 2006 11:00 AM
MCCLELLAN: Good morning, everybody. I'm here to announce that I will be resigning as White House press secretary.
. . .
Our relationship began back in Texas, and I look forward to continuing it, particularly when we are both back in Texas.
BUSH: That's right.
MCCLELLAN: Although I hope to get there before you.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 11:05 AM
Coup d'etat
Dear Cornposters:
I do not see a military coup d'etat but Americans can have a military coup by saying no to the reinstatement of the military draft. With no military draft the Nazi government in our devil incarnate nation will have to be more selective in their adventures into war. Endless wars by American Nazi regimes are madness.
When we look closely at our politicians, they give an aura of insanity. Bushitler brought out the many closet idiots who have a lust for power. Egomaniacs run for political office and all are corrupt. Who in their right mind will spend a million dollars on a campaign that pays $185,000 per year for two years in the U.S. House of Representatives. Interest groups buy these corrupt politicians and the American people suffer.
What is amazing is that our country still stands but the time will come when she collapses like a deck of cards. I came in at the right time and I am leaving at the right time.
Sincerely,
Gerald
Posted by: Gerald at April 19, 2006 11:13 AM
Decider-in-Thief (pic)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 11:13 AM
Two awful anniversaries today, the state sponsored mass murder at Waco ended it's 51 day seige today in 1993, And the OKC bombing, pinned on two loan wackos happened today in 1995. OKC is still being investigated because of govt ties, and Waco was overt tyranny. Long live the bi-partisan police state!
Posted by: Saladin at April 19, 2006 11:16 AM
Upon Death Will Give Us Jesus' Government
Posted by: Gerald at April 19, 2006 11:27 AM
A VERRRRRRRY HARD CALL FOR DAD -- BUT BUSH DUMPS HIS DAUGHTERS IN "SHAKE-UP" -- DECIDER TAKES DRASTIC ACTION
This is from the Washington Post....
Posted by: micki at April 19, 2006 11:28 AM
911was an inside job.
6212 85.2%
911 was allowed to happen by the neo-con cabal
864 11.8%
911 was solely the work of Al-Qaeda.
194 2.7%
911 was actually all Saddam's fault.
22 0.3%
Number of Voters : 7292
First Vote : Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:58
Last Vote : Wednesday, 19 April 2006 16:17
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CNN also had a poll at 85%
From the bravocharlie911 website. I guess that new 9/11 comic book in the works is too little, too late. Charlie Sheen applauded, dickhead cheney booed, I am feeling a little hope!
Posted by: Saladin at April 19, 2006 11:29 AM
Jeanne & Micki,
My comments @ 113, 114 on the last thread were reflecting on the history of Coups d'Tat in America. What I find interesting in the current situation with the generals speaking out is that it reflects not so much that the military is trying to wrest political control from a legitimate civilian authority, rather it appears that a significant portion of the military, or at least as represented by the outspoken generals, are questioning whether the administration is acting with the consent of the governed and according to law and constitution.
Posted by: Robert Schwartz at April 19, 2006 11:31 AM
There are two signs that a Republican is in trouble. One is they start talking about Bill Clinton. The other is they book an interview on Rush Limbaugh's radio show. It's a coveted spot. A request and opportunity that can't be denied.
Rush Limbaugh rarely does interviews on his show. It's all bluster, all b.s., all the time. But when his boys and girls get in trouble, they can always count on Rush inviting them in for a little informal chat. He's done it with Deadeye. Yesterday he did it with Rummy.
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Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 11:34 AM
Can Republicans Put Country Before Party?
President George W. Bush is the Republican Party's Vietnam.
When I interviewed John Dean about Abu Ghraib, his book had already gained steam. When I saw Senator Lindsay Graham so unabashedly ignorant as to the true history of Watergate during the recent Judiciary Committee hearings, taking the time to insult Mr. Dean, the situation in which we find ourselves today made so much sense. It's as if the Republican Party has fallen into an abyss of political amnesia.
(link)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 11:37 AM
Rove will bring home the bacon for a GOP landslide in 2006
There is no question that my mentor, Karl Rove, will bring home the bacon in 2006. GOP slaughters the Dems through rigged elections.
Posted by: Gerald at April 19, 2006 11:37 AM
McClellan Out, Rove Leaving Policy Post
Moves Continues Shakeup Of Roles At White House
(CBS) WASHINGTON White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove gave up some of his responsibilities and White House press secretary Scott McClellan announced his resignation Wednesday, continuing a shakeup in President Bush's administration that has already yielded a new chief of staff.
Rove is giving up oversight of policy development to focus more on politics with the approach of the fall midterm elections, said a senior administration official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the president had not yet made the announcement.
Just over a year ago, Rove was promoted to deputy chief of staff in charge of most White House policy coordination. That new portfolio came on top of his title as senior adviser and role of chief policy aide to Bush.
But now, the job of deputy chief of staff for policy is being given to Joel Kaplan.
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Dan Senor to take over from Scotty? Dan's credibility is right up there with Baghad Bob's.
Posted by: Robert Schwartz at April 19, 2006 11:39 AM
Democrats in Congress lie low on Iran
Source: Raw Story
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/D ... _Congress_lay_low_on_0418.html
Published: Apr 19, 2006
In private conversations with RAW STORY, senior aides to leading Democratic members of Congress in both houses have indicated an uncertain approach to resolving the standoff over Iran's nuclear ambitions.
As the Bush Administration ups rhetoric and news reports signal the Pentagon has developed detailed plans for a possible military strike, the opposition party's leading lights have remained silent. Democratic insiders say they don't want to rush to judgment without getting the facts, but the issue has received scant attention from Democrats in Congress.
Most Democratic offices declined to comment for this story. Many said they couldn't comment because their congressperson was away for Easter recess, though they were eager to talk about other issues or criticize the Bush Administration's approach. Aides said they weren't able to speak on the record or on background, and even some who have often commented anonymously in RAW STORY articles did not return calls for comment.
There is no formal consensus among Democrats on Iran. One Democrat, Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-CT), has endorsed the possibility of using airstrikes to delay Iran's nuclear program, though most are more vague, saying they won't take any options off the table. And they appear to be serious: Not even the Democrats liberal heavyweight in the House, Nancy Pelosi, has ruled out the possibility of using nuclear weapons, keeping "all options" on the table, an aide said.
Most aides refused to speculate whether Democrats might support a military operation in Iran. Several aides acknowledged, however, that some Democrats in Congress could support a military strike. If it was presented with clear and damning evidence of an Iranian nuclear program, aides said, Bush might be able to get Congressional authorization for the use of force.
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Have the dems learned anything from Iraq? I guess we'll soon find out. Below is a comment from a reader.
Dems and Reps are the same on many critical issues involving Israel and Wall Street. 1) Have you heard any Senator or Congressman demand the Federal Reserve continue to publish M3 money supply figures? Yet the FED is threatening to destroy every pension and savings account in America. 2) Where is the 9-11 truth movement in Congress? WTC 7 was obviously a controlled demolition. It was not even hit by a plane. How many congressmen are campaigning on this issue? 3) Way back in the 1960s people demamded that the Congress audit and count the gold in Fort Knox. Nothing ever happened. 4) Every member of Congress and the Senate got a letter from the former head of bomb ordnance for the USAF, Lt. Gen. Ben McPartin, who proved to them that the Oklahoma city federal building was blown from the inside by a controlled demolition. He sent everyone of them a letter. Nothing ever happened. Video evidence of the second man to exit the Ryder truck, the man who lit the fuse, was never released. Nothing ever happened. You can probably add to the list. I am just saying we cannot depend on the Democrats to do anything about stopping a war against Iran if Israel says go.
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pelosi receives lot's of money from AIPAC. So, where do her loyalties lie anyway?
Posted by: Saladin at April 19, 2006 11:42 AM
Pande
I know you would like to get some redemtion for the ass kickin I gave you before Mr Corn stepped in to save your arse, but move on already, you bore me!!
I'm not going to stoop to your preschool level of personal insults anymore. My insults will be focused on lefty idiots in power and yes Mr Corn when he makes fun of a Bush's words and can't get his own correct! Now go play with your Corn-nut groupies!
Posted by: LBH at April 19, 2006 11:44 AM
#200 Sick, sick, and always "sic"
Posted by: caroline at April 19, 2006 11:46 AM
FOX News' Tony Snow Among Possible White House Spokesman Candidates
Wednesday, April 19, 2006
WASHINGTON Ñ With a few personnel shifts going on in the White House, there's speculation that presidential spokesman Scott McClellan may be looking to step down.
One of the people the White House has approached as a possible replacement for McClellan is FOX News Radio host Tony Snow. The White House discussed the possibility with Snow as recently as this week.
Snow, who hosts "The Tony Snow Show," once served as a speechwriter for President George H.W. Bush.
Other people have also been approached about the position, including former Pentagon spokeswoman Victoria Clark and Dan Senor, the former Coalition Provisional Authority spokesman in Iraq, who served the U.S. civil administrator in Iraq, Paul Bremer.
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What a rogues list...
Posted by: Robert Schwartz at April 19, 2006 11:48 AM
Delay conspiracy charges thrown out!
Appeals court throws out Ronnie Earl's conspiracy charges Wednesday.
Another defeat for the left!!
Posted by: LBH at April 19, 2006 11:48 AM
Robert -- Yes, thanks for the input on the previous thread #113 & 114.
Dan Senor or Tony Snow? I had heard about Senor (and mentioned him last night), but Snow? Either one is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Sheesh.
Posted by: micki at April 19, 2006 11:51 AM
Bushitler's numbers have dipped slightly in the polls but he is still god in the screw-up nation.
Rove
"Repetition Compulsion." is the name of the game for me. I see myself as a Karl Rove of and for patriotic Americans.
Karl Rove has brought the bushgod to great heights because he keeps repeating and repeating about how great bush is. After awhile Americans begin to believe. If it's good for Karl Rove, it's good for me. Keep repeating until the thoughts are embedded and imprinted in the brains of all Americans.
Americans have heard from Karl Rove that the bushgod is great. No one can deny that the majority of Americans not only believe that bush is great but that he is also a god.
ROVE IS MY MENTOR!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Gerald at April 19, 2006 11:57 AM
Redemtion by the numbers (sic)
Ignorant rant: Pande I know you would like to get some redemtion for the ass kickin I gave you before Mr Corn stepped in to save your arse, but move on already, you bore me!!
Translation: You would like to get revenge but forget it because I'm bored.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 11:57 AM
FBI Seeks Access to Dead Columnist's Papers
By Scott Shane
The New York Times
Wednesday 19 April 2006
Washington - The F.B.I. is seeking to go through the files of the late newspaper columnist Jack Anderson to remove classified material he may have accumulated in four decades of muckraking Washington journalism.
Mr. Anderson's family has refused to allow a search of 188 boxes, the files of a well-known reporter who had long feuded with the Federal Bureau of Investigation and had exposed plans by the Central Intelligence Agency to kill Fidel Castro, the machinations of the Iran-contra affair and the misdemeanors of generations of congressmen.
Mr. Anderson's son Kevin said that to allow government agents to rifle through the papers would betray his father's principles and intimidate other journalists, and that family members were willing to go to jail to protect the collection.
More.
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More abuse from the FBI, the outfit that brought you COINTRELPRO.
Posted by: Robert Schwartz at April 19, 2006 11:58 AM
DeLay's scandals: maybe not just for Texas anymore
CRAGG HINES | C 2006 Houston Chronicle
Tom DeLay isn't involved in every Republican scandal, although it's easy to see how you could get that idea.
As Democrats prowl through evidence in a growing phone-jamming scandal in New Hampshire, what should pop up but DeLay's Americans for a Republican Majority political action committee.
Just as Republican operatives in 2002 were shelling out about $15,000 to attempt to tie up Election Day phone lines at some Democratic get-out-the-vote call centers in the Granite State, three groups — let's call them "Friends of Jack Abramoff" — were ponying up $5,000 each to the New Hampshire Republican State Committee.
In addition to DeLay's ARM, the generous givers were two casino-fueled tribes, California's Agua Caliente Band of Cahuilla Indians and the Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians. (The tribal contributions were first reported in The Union Leader, a New Hampshire newspaper, and the ARM contribution was added in a New York Times piece.)
(link)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 12:02 PM
DeLay faces a money-laundering charge and another conspiracy charge stemming from the financing of state legislative races in 2002. (link)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 12:05 PM
Citizen X:
This is a good article on the retired Generals' speaking out, your `Hard to explain' and my `Unease'. Full Article w/out Redaction!
Wednesday, April 19, 2006
Generals put us on slippery slope
By BILL CENTER
GUEST COLUMNIST
People who know I'm a retired rear admiral have asked, "Should Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld resign?" They seem surprised that I don't have a snappy comeback. It's a complex question requiring a careful answer.
Civilian control of the U.S. armed forces is a fundamental democratic principle that our military men and women internalize from day one. Officers swear to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic." When administering that oath to enlisted personnel, we add the words "I will obey the orders of the president of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me." We hear and repeat those words countless times during a career. We take them seriously.
Thanks to actor Geena Davis, most Americans now know that the president is commander in chief; fewer know the secretary of defense is second-in-command. The secretary issues orders on behalf of the president. Those orders must be obeyed, period.
A senior commander who disagrees with the secretary is expected to voice those concerns. The secretary is expected to listen. Once a decision is made the officer is expected to comply or resign.
Down in the ranks, our troops count on senior officers to speak up on their behalf, forcefully and often. They expect those admirals and generals to resign if their voice is ignored or if they feel strongly that the civilian leadership is wrong on a vital issue.
Despite crushing pressures to the contrary, during my 35 years in the Navy, several senior officers and one secretary of the Navy chose that difficult path. Few made any public statements concerning their reasons. They made their point while preserving and protecting the principle of civilian control and supporting and defending the Constitution.
Now we have this unusual spectacle of retired generals calling on the secretary of defense to step down. What are we to make of it?
This past Sunday, my friend Erin Solaro -- who understands the U.S. military better than just about any civilian I know -- tied the general's statements back to Vietnam ("Retired generals rising up against Iraq war"). She is right about that. She also suggested this episode could signal a fundamental shift in civil-military relations. I hope she's wrong about that.
Rumsfeld is arguably the most qualified and experienced secretary of defense in U.S. history. He exercises full command of the levers of Pentagon power. He understands the culture and controls the promotions of senior military leaders more closely than any of his predecessors.
Rumsfeld might have considered resigning in the wake of the devastating Abu Ghraib revelations. By so doing, he could have taken responsibility and sent the strongest possible signal concerning the total unacceptability of such conduct. Perhaps he did offer his resignation and the president declined to accept it. Regardless, it was very disappointing that none of the responsible generals resigned.
The decision to resign belongs exclusively to the individual. The retired generals had their chances to resign. It is reported that Maj. Gen. John Batiste may have done so. Others chose to follow orders. If they now want to offer an opinion on the conduct of the war, they are well-qualified to do so. They are also free to criticize the secretary's leadership. I've offered critical opinions of my own. It is not their place, however, to call upon the president's second-in-command to step down.
The vast majority of the more than 8,000 retired general officers have remained appropriately silent. That does not mean we lack a voice. Eisenhower was right; we already exercise disproportionate influence.
The outspoken generals have put us on a very slippery slope. You may agree with them in this case and therefore find little reason for concern. Would you be equally comfortable with 5,000 or 6,000 retired officers calling for the resignation of a leader you supported?
There are only four reasons Rumsfeld would resign. (1) The president asked him to. (2) He was ready to retire. (3) He strongly disagreed with the president on some fundamental policy issue. (4) He was taking personal responsibility for some shortcoming in his department. I'm not anticipating an announcement anytime soon, but I've been wrong before.
Bill Center, president of the Washington Council on International Trade, retired from the U.S. Navy as a rear admiral in 1999. He teaches the graduate seminar in American Foreign Policy at the UW's Daniel J. Evans School of Public Affairs and blogs about globalism and trade at www.seattlepi.com.
Posted by: Happy skips on & out of Pond at April 19, 2006 12:09 PM
Rumsfield critic, Gen Anthony Zinni,
who has asked for Rummy to resign for his incompetence of the Iraqi war admitted six years ago that the USS Cole blunder was his fault and also may have played a role in a leak that tipped off Osama Bin Laden to an impending cruise missle attack - allowing the terrorist to escape.
The left have such qualified opposition:
Scott Ritter- who got caught soliciting 13 year girls on the internet.
Joe Wilson- the proven liar by the 9/11 commission and Washington Post.
John Dean- a convicted felon
Wesley Clark- disgraced retired Gen fired by Sec Defense William Cohen for integrity violations and character issues.
And now Gen Anthony Zinni- responsible for USS Cole getting bomb for docking in Yemen when he new it was a hot spot and then blamed it on Clinton for cutting back the military so much they could no longer re-fuel at sea. Who then tips off Osama of Clintons only offensive move made against terrorism.
Keep it coming boys! Just when I thought it couldn't get any better!!!!
Posted by: LBH at April 19, 2006 12:09 PM
Confusing revenge and redemtion (sic): maybe to some people, they are the same thing.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 12:11 PM
For LBH
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 12:14 PM
There is no way that the good guys and girls can win in our corrupt devil incarnate nation. More corruption will flow into the WH and Congress. The chant in the halls of power is "Long live corruption!"
Posted by: Gerald at April 19, 2006 12:17 PM
Neocon and lock-step republican view of the world (link)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 12:21 PM
Karl Rove loses some of his WH responsibilities
ABC News reported this morning: "Karl Rove Loses Domestic Policy Duties." The headline doesn't use the word "demotion," but that's pretty much what happened.
[A] senior administration official revealed another move in the ongoing shakeup of Bush's staff, saying that longtime confidant and adviser Karl Rove is giving up oversight of policy development to focus more on politics with the approach of the fall midterm elections. (link)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 12:28 PM
THOUGHTS FROM KANSAS: Kline loses badly on federal teen sex case
Judge rules against Kline on teen sex case: A federal judge in Wichita ruled this afternoon that the Kansas attorney general overstepped the intent of lawmakers in a legal opinion concerning the sexual privacy of teenagers.... Kline is chastised for misreading the plain text of the law, and having rewritten the law in his opinion, is taken to the woodshed. (link)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 12:30 PM
#161
See they were right all along. Sal
The Bush administration is sick enough to use that as a backup excuse.
Posted by: Jeanne at April 19, 2006 12:31 PM
Bernstein Calls for Senate Investigation of George Bush
Carl Bernstein calls for a Senate investigation of the Bush Administration, similar to the investigations of Richard Nixon. In contrast to Feinstein, he argues “the question of whether the president should be impeached (or, less severely, censured) remains premature. More important, it is essential that the Senate vote—hopefully before the November elections, and with overwhelming support from both parties—to undertake a full investigation of the conduct of the presidency of George W. Bush, along the lines of the Senate Watergate Committee’s investigation during the presidency of Richard M. Nixon.”
(link)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 12:33 PM
JAMES WOLCOTT: Spreadin' Freedom, Reapin' Destruction
This morning on Chris Matthews' syndicated Sunday show, the politically astute panel unanimously agreed that there'd be no attack on Iran before the midterm elections. Bush is too weak, the repercussions would be too grave, etc. When this sort of consensus is reached by pundits who have been generally wrong about everything (certainly everything connected with the Iraq war), you know that the Received Opinion is wrong, or at least irrelevant. (link)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 12:36 PM
Waas: Cheney Authorized Leak of Another Classified Report
A new piece from Murray Waas reveals yet another leak of a classified document to discredit Joseph Wilson. This document was a March 2002 CIA report, a "debriefing of Wilson by the CIA's Directorate of Operations after Wilson returned from a CIA-sponsored mission to Niger to investigate claims." (link)
Cheney directed the leak on July 12, 2003 says Waas. This is in addition to the September 2002 National Intelligence Estimate, which was leaked with President Bush's authorization.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 12:39 PM
Is this big?
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MSNBC Home È U.S. News È Politics
Bush changes: Rove shifts, press chief quits
Top aide to focus on midterm elections; McClellan parried tough questions
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Keep the hope
Later,
th
Posted by: th at April 19, 2006 12:40 PM
It is a resolute fantasy world that [Bush supporters] cling to for dear life, because everything that matters to them resides in that world. And the most significant aspect of all is that the person most afflicted with this fact-immune syndrome is the person who resides in the White House and controls our Government, and will for the next 2 1/2 years. There are few situations more destructive and dangerous than for a volatile situation to be controlled by people for whom faith in one's own rightness is infinitely more persuasive, and more sacred, than facts and reality. (link)
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 12:40 PM
To a certain someone:
"I honestly didn't expect this much attention, but it just keeps happening so I must be doing something right!"
Freddy Adu
Posted by: LBH at April 19, 2006 12:46 PM
Freddy Aduuuuuuuuuuu!
Posted by: Pandemoniac at April 19, 2006 01:00 PM
Why can't you ignore the ignorant?
It would make for a better thread with more and better commentary.
capt
Posted by: capt at April 19, 2006 01:01 PM
Capt
I'm trying to ignore them!!!
Posted by: LBH at April 19, 2006 01:06 PM
O'Reilly #216 The headline doesn't use the word "demotion," but that's pretty much what happened.
I dunno O'R...Karl Rove will have more time to devote to promoting bad sh** for the mid-terms. He's in a position to do a lot of damage -- in Repug terms, this could be a promotion.
Posted by: micki at April 19, 2006 01:15 PM
I've just been slimed.
I got a call from Phyllis Schlafly. She wants me to call Norm Coleman and tell him to vote for the 'wall'. I think I'll email Norm and tell him that somehow building a 'wall' just seems like a waste of money and brick and that it will cause more problems. How about if we help the Mexicans build a healthy economy? Kick the economic hitmen out of there.
Posted by: Jeanne at April 19, 2006 01:18 PM
Thomas Freidman of the New York Times
(no friend of conseravtives)
was on the Today Show and said that the high gas prices are the fault of China and India, not Bush. He also agrees with me that high gas prices are good for the US and will force consumers to conserve energy and develop alternative fuels. Thomas would like to see $100 a barrel for oil.
For all those griping and confused about high gas prices and global warming at the same time, wake up!!!!
Posted by: LBH at April 19, 2006 01:23 PM
Bush's Nutty Nuclear Braggadocio
A once swaggering president, who so convincingly wielded a bullhorn and modeled a flight suit, now has assumed the pretzel pose of a supplicant attempting to cajole our old enemy in Tehran into dropping its nuclear ambitions while simultaneously initiating talks with Iran aimed at bailing us out in Iraq. After the fiasco of using the blunt instrument of military force to "democratize" Iraq, Bush now resorts to mild talk of U.N. sanctions on Iran, the very weapon he had derided in relation to quarantining Hussein. BushÕ³ nutty nuclear braggadocio on Tuesday Ñ "all options are on the table" Ñ was a sign of weakness, not strength, hobbled as he is by various self-created impediments.
One is that he has lost the trust of Americans, foreign leaders and even many Republicans by lying about Iraq Ñ crying wolf, in essence Ñ and then fumbling the occupation. Another invasion would be a tough sell, both here and abroad.
Two, Iran is, as Republican Sen. Richard Lugar put it subtly, "part of the energy picture." In other words, it exports gobs of oil. U.S.-Iran tension already has sent crude prices above $70 a barrel. "I believe, for the moment, we ought to cool this one," Lugar warned the White House. "We need to make more headway diplomatically to be effective."
More HERE
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Bush is a miserable failure on every count. Worst President in History?
capt
Posted by: capt at April 19, 2006 01:28 PM
CIA mines 'rich' content from blogs
President Bush and U.S. policy-makers are receiving more intelligence from open sources such as Internet blogs and foreign newspapers than they previously did, senior intelligence officials said.
The new Open Source Center (OSC) at CIA headquarters recently stepped up data collection and analysis based on bloggers worldwide and is developing new methods to gauge the reliability of the content, said OSC Director Douglas J. Naquin.
"A lot of blogs now have become very big on the Internet, and we're getting a lot of rich information on blogs that are telling us a lot about social perspectives and everything from what the general feeling is to ... people putting information on there that doesn't exist anywhere else," Mr. Naquin told The Washington Times.
Eliot A. Jardines, assistant deputy director of national intelligence for open source, said the amount of unclassified intelligence reaching Mr. Bush and senior policy-makers has increased as a result of the center's creation in November.
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Good maybe Bush is figuring out that his administration sucks. That nobody is fooled by the happy talk that comes out of the White house. The economy is in the toilet. The oil companies are raping the nation. We need national health care. The war in Iraq is ILLEGAL and a HUMAN TRAGEDY AND WAR CRIMES have been committed by Rumsfeld.
Let us see what else.....hmmm......global warming exists. ID is bullshit. Cheney is the devils tool. Halliburton and Subsidiaries are committing fraud against the US and Iraq. The taxpayers, the military, and the citizens living in the areas where they operate are being screwed.
What else.....hmmm...there is no progress in the US because we have an administration that is trying to spend us into the stone age.
I always say Mr. Bush, think about where the average person was 6 years ago. We were all better off. You, Mr. Bush, are destroying my country. Was that your intention?
Posted by: Jeanne at April 19, 2006 01:33 PM
This is what I want to know:
When is a member of Congress -- from either side of the aisle -- going to stand up and say to GWB:
"Listen up, you stupid fuckhead! YOU ARE NOT THE DECIDER-IN-CHIEF! This is a democracy. We have three co-equal branches of government, you friggin' lunkhead! And now, you're going to get your ass kicked by Congress for being a bloody, good-for-nothing asshole who is ruining our good country."
Well, hopefully, he/she will be more diplomatic...but you get my drift, eh?
Posted by: micki at April 19, 2006 01:38 PM
Floyd star switches concert venue
Former Pink Floyd star Roger Waters has switched the venue for a solo concert in Israel following pressure from dozens of Palestinian artists.
The bassist was to perform in Tel Aviv in June but will now play the mixed Arab-Jewish town of Neveh Shalom.
He was asked to change his plans in an open letter from musicians who claimed Israel was "oppressing" Palestinians.
Pink Floyd's Another Brick in the Wall is used as a protest song by opponents of Israel's barrier in the West Bank.
However, the lyrics have been adapted to read: "We don't need no occupation. We don't need no racist wall."
In an open letter to Waters after the concert was first announced, the Palestinian artists urged him to stay away "at a time when Israel continues unabated with its colonial and apartheid designs to further dispossess, oppress and ultimately ethnically cleanse Palestinians from their homeland".
More HERE
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Which one is pink?
capt
Posted by: capt at April 19, 2006 01:44 PM
The skinny on Tony Snow, purported to be Snottys replacement..........Summary: Media Matters for America presents a compilation of false and misleading claims advanced by Tony Snow -- a Fox News Radio host, Fox News guest host and commentator, and former speechwriter to President George H.W. Bush -- who is reportedly being considered by the White House to replace outgoing press secretary Scott McClellan. Read the rest here
Posted by: DEN at April 19, 2006 01:45 PM
Micki, that is one of the biggest problems we face down this path, the impotence of Congress.
By the way, #192 was hilarious.
Holy smokes! Tony Snow to replace McClellen? Yeeks!
Don't you all think the Mr. Corn's post yesterday was very timely considering Rove's announcement today the he's stepping down? Maybe, just maybe, Rove is running scared. I find that hard to believe knowing what a tough nutcase Rove is?
And Rove, for the time being, is going nowhere. This is just a semantic change. He still be the top cookie in contention with Cheney.
Posted by: Carey at April 19, 2006 01:50 PM
Micki, that is one of the biggest problems we face down this path, the impotence of Congress.
By the way, #192 was hilarious.
Holy smokes! Tony Snow to replace McClellen? Yeeks!
Don't you all think that Mr. Corn's post yesterday was very timely considering Rove's announcement today the he's stepping down? Maybe, just maybe, Rove is running scared. I find that hard to believe knowing what a tough nutcase Rove is?
And Rove, for the time being, is going nowhere. This is just a semantic change. He still be the top cookie in contention with Cheney.
Posted by: Carey at April 19, 2006 01:51 PM
Jeanne
You write that this is an administration that is trying to spend us into the stone age.
The fact is this:
It is sheer Contitutional ignorance to say that Bush spends or lowers our taxes. Article I, sections 7 & 8 of the US Constitution gives Congress authority to spend and tax. The President only has veto power that Congress can override.
You write that the economy is in the toilet.
The fact is this:
Black owned business are up 45%.
Homeownership is at a all time high.
Interest rates are still at all time lows even with the current increases (no where near Jimmy Caters 16-18% highs).
Inflation is still at all time lows.
GDP is at all time highs(our GDP is better tahn all of Europe combined).
Oil even at $71 a barrel is still lower than the $91 a barrel under Jimmy Carter.
Unemployment is at all time lows(better again than all of Europe).
Stock Market is at record highs.
Consumer spending at record highs.
Baby boomers owning second homes as never before.
Construction at record highs.
What part of the economy is in the toilet?
Posted by: LBH at April 19, 2006 01:58 PM
Chinese President Hu Jintao arrived in Seattle, Washington State on Tuesday, kicking off his first state visit to the United States. Read the rest here. Good Chinese news site, also has listed selected works of Deng Xiaoping interesting reading.
Posted by: DEN at April 19, 2006 02:02 PM
Speaking of Chinese news, why did I have to go to China to see the pics of Irans supposed nuke sites? Which by the way were released by the US.
Posted by: DEN at April 19, 2006 02:08 PM
I think he meant "decision-maker"? Someone needs to intervene and keep him from saying things about the voices he hears.
Posted by: VirusHead at April 19, 2006 02:13 PM
Tom Freidman's newest article was in today's Houston Chronicle. Since it's behind the NYTimes firewall, the Chronicle doesn't have it up on it's web site. Freidman asks the question, which is worse, a nuclear armed Iran (in maybe 10 years) or another 'Iraq' led by the same idiots that gave us that war? He skewers Rummy big time for that fk up and says no way should anybody trust him to lead us any-fkn-where. O'Reilly, if you have a Times 'pass' to get beyond their firewall, I wish you'd post Freidman's article, and even more, any article by Maureen Dowd in it's entirety. Thanks.
Posted by: Alan at April 19, 2006 02:15 PM
Bush was drinking hard cider, he came down from the buzz - so he was a decider!
capt
Posted by: capt at April 19, 2006 02:17 PM
David just signed offline a few minutes ago, so I thought there might be a new post about Scotty, or even Waas' newest revelation (though I had read somewhere else earlier that Joe Wilson's debrief was one of the documents bushco leaked some of). Anywayz, no new post, so keep sending here.
Posted by: Alan at April 19, 2006 02:19 PM
Oh this one sells REAL stinky! One of the two owners of the DC9 (tail number N900SA) busted at an airport in the Yucatan last week after lumbering in from Caracas, Venezuela carrying an astonishing 5.5 TONS of cocaine was appointed in 1993 to the Business Advisory Council of the National Republican Congressional Committee by then-Congressional Majority Leader Tom Delay, The MadCowMorningNews can exclusively report. The plane's registered owner, Royal Sons LLC, a Florida air charter company, was at one time housed in a hanger at the Venice Fl. Airport owned by infamous flight school Huffman Aviation. Interestingly enough, the DC9 was painted to resemble an official government aircraft. Now what do you suppose they were up to?
Posted by: DEN at April 19, 2006 02:21 PM
Evil Lying Liars
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 02:25 PM
Iraq II or a Nuclear Iran?
THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN | 4/18/06 | Complete article HERE
If these are our only choices, which would you rather have: a nuclear-armed Iran or an attack on Iran's nuclear sites that is carried out and sold to the world by the Bush national security team, with Don Rumsfeld at the Pentagon's helm?
I'd rather live with a nuclear Iran.
While I know the right thing is to keep all our options open, I have zero confidence in this administration's ability to manage a complex military strike against Iran, let alone the military and diplomatic aftershocks.
As someone who believed Ñ and still believes Ñ in the importance of getting Iraq right, the level of incompetence that the Bush team has displayed in Iraq, and its refusal to acknowledge any mistakes or remove those who made them, make it impossible to support this administration in any offensive military action against Iran.
I look at the Bush national security officials much the way I look at drunken drivers. I just want to take away their foreign policy driver's licenses for the next three years. Sorry, boys and girls, you have to stay home now Ñ or take a taxi. Dial 1-800-NATO-CHARGE-A-RIDE. You will not be driving alone. Not with my car.
If ours were a parliamentary democracy, the entire Bush team would be out of office by now, and deservedly so. In Iraq, the president was supposed to lead, manage and hold subordinates accountable, and he did not. Condoleezza Rice was supposed to coordinate, and she did not. Donald Rumsfeld was supposed to listen, and he did not. But ours is not a parliamentary system, and while some may feel as if this administration's over, it isn't. So what to do? We can't just take a foreign policy timeout.
At a minimum, a change must be made at the Pentagon. Mr. Rumsfeld paints himself as a concerned secretary, ready to give our generals in Iraq whatever troops they ask for, but they just haven't asked. This is hogwash, but even if the generals didn't ask, the relevant question, Mr. Rumsfeld, is: What did you ask them?
What did you ask them when you saw the looting, when you saw Saddam's ammo dumps unguarded, when you saw that no one had control of the Iraq-Syria border and when you saw that Iraq was so insecure that militias were sprouting everywhere? What did you ask the generals? You didn't ask and you didn't tell, because you never wanted to send more troops. You actually thought we could just smash Saddam's regime and leave. Insane.
So if our choice is another Rummy-led operation on Iran or Iran's going nuclear and our deterring it through classic means, I prefer deterrence. A short diplomatic note to Iran's mullahs will suffice: "Gentlemen, should you ever use a nuclear device, or dispense one to terrorists, we will destroy every one of your nuclear sites with tactical nuclear weapons. If there is any part of this sentence you don't understand, please contact us. Thank you."
Do I wish there was a third way? Yes. But the only meaningful third way would be to challenge Iran to face-to-face negotiations about all the issues that divide us: Iraq, sanctions, nukes. Such diplomacy, though, would require two things.
First, the Bush team would have to make up its mind on something that has divided it for five years: Does it want a change of regime in Iran or a change of behavior? If it will settle only for regime change, then diplomacy has no chance. The Iranians will never negotiate, and our allies will be wary of working with us.
Second, if the Bush team is ready to live with a change in Iran's behavior, diplomacy has a chance Ñ but only if it has allies and a credible threat of force to make the Iranians negotiate seriously. The only way Iran will strike a grand bargain with the U.S. is if it thinks America has the support at home and abroad for a military option (or really severe sanctions.)
The main reason Mr. Rumsfeld should leave now is because we can't have a credible diplomatic or military option vis-?-vis Iran when so many people feel, as I do, that in a choice between another Rumsfeld-led confrontation and just letting Iran get nukes and living with it, we should opt for the latter.
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Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 02:28 PM
O'Reilly, but they are Happy Liars
Posted by: DEN at April 19, 2006 02:29 PM
Alan, what do you mean, "David just signed offline?"
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 02:30 PM
Speaking of Karl Rove, notice that his tall, dark and handsome son Andrew Rove, is not in the military
fighting for the so-call "Noble Cause."
Andrew Rove doesn't look anything like is alleged
father. Wondder who the sperm doner was.
Posted by: Kirk Muse at April 19, 2006 02:32 PM
The Official George W. Bush
"Days Left In Office"
Countdown Clock:
1006 DAYS 9 Hrs 28 Min 54.7 Sec
Posted by: capt at April 19, 2006 02:33 PM
McClellan resigned. Rove was demoted. That leaves the Decider-in-Thief. What will come of him?
While he's shrewd, he needs a complicit congress to continue his reign of incompetence and flout the law with impunity.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 02:35 PM
#235
The press is going to eat Snow alive.
Posted by: Jeanne at April 19, 2006 02:38 PM
Rove to Rescue the Weakling in the White House
Firedoglake | 4/19/06 | Taylor Marsh
As the story goes, Karl Rove is losing his "policy position." Oh, brother, the traditional media will fall for anything.
LetÕ³ get real. With Tom Delay now disgraced, out of commission, his K-Street corruption exposed for all to see, someone has to take the top spot. Hellooooo, Karl. Now heÕ¬l be the one to press the flesh, take the payola and try to turn around the impending disaster the Republican party is headed for in the mid-terms. Democrats, watch your back, because BushÕ³ brain is about to be set loose.
But conservatives want us to believe theyÕ²e "cheering" because KarlÕ³ been a policy failure? Again, oh, brother. Talk about spin.
Posted by: O'Reilly at April 19, 2006 02:41 PM
#60 Micki
We get those silly refunds every year. It's not worth the bank charges.
I would have responded to some of the interesting articles posted, but been ill and so has my computer.
#245 Den
You may be too young to remeber the rampant drug-dealing during the Reagan era. As to the Tom Delay connection, doesn't surprise does it?
But it all sure sounds almost too spooky to contemplate.
Posted by: Carey at April 19, 2006 02:46 PM
Carey, I'm 53 but was not paying much attention to ronnie ray-gun, zap,zap. Like the sheeple today I was doing other things like watching Dukes of Hazard or something. Glad thats over.
Posted by: DEN at April 19, 2006 02:54 PM
Carey
You forgot to add Bill Clintons era.
His little brother the convicted drug dealer was pardoned for his bad cocaine habits by big brother Billy!
Posted by: LBh at April 19, 2006 03:22 PM
Tomcat Program to Mark Famed Fighter's End
The worldÕs most recognized aircraft Ð the fast and lethal F-14 - is roaring off into Naval history.
The people who supported research, development, test and training for the mighty Tomcat will soon shutter the program on Patuxent River Naval Air Station.
The Tomcat program (PMA-241) will host a disestablishment ceremony in Pax RiverÕs hangar 2133 April 27 at 2 p.m. Rear Admiral David Venlet, NAVAIRÕs Program Executive Officer for Tactical Aircraft and a Tomcat aviator, will speak at the ceremony.
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Posted by: Alan at April 19, 2006 03:28 PM
A Maniacal Messianic Prepares to Fulfill His Destiny
"I have fulfilled my destiny," the president says manically. He has just entered the nuclear launch codes that will trigger World War III. Seconds later, he emerges from a bunker. The Secretary of State squeezes between two soldiers. "Mr. President!" he shouts. "We have a diplomatic solution!"
He smiles. "It's too late," he replies. "The missiles are flying. Alleluia. Alleluia."
The above scene, from David Cronenberg's 1983 adaptation of the horror novel "The Dead Zone," is a classic if slightly preposterous nightmare of a world destroyed by a demented demagogue. Now, incredibly, a lunatic out of a Stephen King movie has brought the United States to the brink of Armageddon.
Until I read Seymour Hersh's expose in The New Yorker and subsequent follow-up coverage by other journalists about the Bush Administration's plans to start a war against Iran, I had dismissed talk of George W. Bush's messianism as so much Beltway chatter. True, he hears voices, even claiming that God and Jesus Christ talk to him. "I believe God wants me to run for president," he told a friend in Texas. Eschewing mainstream religion, he routinely parrots the apocalyptic ravings of fringe Christianist cults: "And the light [America] has shone in the darkness [the enemies of America], and the darkness will not overcome it [America shall conquer its enemies]," he said during his fevered campaign for war against Iraq. He mimics Old Testament cadences: "God told me to strike at Al Qaeda and I struck them," Bush told the Palestinian prime minister in 2003, "and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East."
Nooor-mal.
Despite the man's wacky religiosity, I have been giving Bush the benefit of a small amount of remaining doubt after five years of the most disastrous rule this nation has ever suffered. I believed that he was breathtakingly bigoted, stupid and ignorant. But I didn't think he was out of his mind. Until now.
More HERE
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Busheney must keep Rummy. Rummy is the scapegoat for starting the war in Iran. Once started it is too late to stop it so Busheney get their war and deflect the cause away from them.
capt
Posted by: capt at April 19, 2006 03:52 PM
Perish the thought
Posted by: capt at April 19, 2006 03:57 PM
Bushitler is building a case to nuke Iran. Revealing nuke sites is to build a case to nuclearize Iran. There is little doubt that Iran will be attacked by our nuclear bombs. Silence from the church leaders is deafening and a tacit approval of our actions. May God have mercy on our souls!
Posted by: Gerald at April 19, 2006 03:57 PM
Bushitler's actions to drop nuclear bombs on Iran reminds me of the souls falling into hell and as these souls fall you here them say, "God spare us. It's too late. It's too late." For our damned nation it is too late.
Posted by: Gerald at April 19, 2006 04:10 PM
You HEAR them say, "God spare us. It's too late. It's too late."
Posted by: Gerald at April 19, 2006 04:12 PM
Here is something to consider: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/HD20Ad03.html Makes for some insightful looks at the total non preparedness of our delusional coward in chief, think he or his are going to be targets in this next one? Think again.
Posted by: What the F**k at April 19, 2006 04:40 PM
During his drinking and coking days, Bush preferred the company of men to the company of women, after the lights went out.
Posted by: Carrie at April 19, 2006 04:44 PM
Rumsfeld Linked to Guantanamo Torture
By Haider Rizvi
OneWorld.net
Tuesday 18 April 2006
New York - A leading international human rights group is calling for the Bush administration to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the alleged involvement of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and other senior Pentagon officials in the torture of a prisoner at Guanatanamo Bay some three years ago.
Rumsfeld could be criminally liable under federal or military law for the abuse and torture of detainee Mohammad al-Qahtani in late 2002 and early 2003, the New York-based Human Rights Watch said this week as some Democratic lawmakers demanded that Rumsfeld step down as Pentagon chief.
The rights group's demand comes in light of findings by a major Internet publication that indicate Rumsfeld might have been fully aware of the abuses inflicted on al-Qahtani, a prisoner held at Guantanamo Bay on terrorism charges.
Last week, a military report obtained by Salon.com included a statement by Lt. Gen. Randall Schmidt that raises serious questions about the conduct of the Pentagon chief and other officials concerning al-Qahtani's interrogation. In the report, Gen. Schmidt says Rumsfeld was "talking weekly" with Gen. Geoffrey Miller, a senior commander at Guantanamo in early 2003, about the al-Qahtani interrogation, and that he was "personally involved in the interrogation of (this) one person."
Schmidt's statement also signals that Rumsfeld maintained a high level of knowledge of and supervision over al-Qahtani's treatment, although he did not specifically order more abusive methods used in the interrogation.
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The log reveals that al-Qahtani was subjected to various methods of physical and mental mistreatment from mid-November 2002 to early January 2003. For six weeks, he was deprived of sleep, forced into painful physical positions, and subjected to forced exercises, standing, and sexual humiliation.
Al-Qahtani was forced to accept an intravenous drip for hydration and on several occasions was refused trips to the latrine so that he urinated on himself at least twice, according to the log, which also reveals that the prisoner was forced to undergo an enema.
"A six-week regime of sleep deprivation, forced exercises, stress positions, white noise, and sexual humiliation amounts to acts that were specifically intended to cause severe physical pain and suffering and mental pain," said Joanne Mariner, HRW's director of terrorism and counter terrorism.
"That's the legal definition of torture," she added.
Last year, the Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Army, Navy, and Marine Corps also made similar observations on the al-Qahtani case. He told the Senate Committee on Armed Services that the interrogation techniques used on al-Qahtani violated the U.S. Army Field Manuel on Intelligence Interrogation.
For its part, the U.S. State Department considers such techniques to be torture and has condemned their use in other countries such as Iran and North Korea in its annual Country Reports on Human Rights.
In a February report, United Nations investigators on torture called on the U.S. government to close down Guantanamo and "refrain from any practice amounting to torture, or cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment."
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Mr. Rumsfeld, the Hague is waiting...
Posted by: Robert Schwartz at April 19, 2006 04:44 PM
So I had to go back in to work today. It seems I've been unable to finish my work in a timely manner, so I was on "chart detention". (Apparently saving lives, making helicopters appear withing minutes to whisk a badly-burned welder off to Augusta Burn Center in record time, processing all the care of more ER patients than any other day in our history...just isn't enough, anymore...)
Needing a quiet place to catch up on my paperwork, I elbowed my way into a nearby "Cube Farm" and comandeered a 'puter. A quiet place to do data entry is like a little slice of paradise for any ER worker, but a nagging, little sound was coming from a nearby cube, some talk-radio station out of Nebraska...the Laura-something show, repeating over and over Jane Fonda saying, "my best friends are communists"...even though that was, apparently, Fonda quoting Ted Turner or something...
Anywhoo, when the talk of world events came about, she kept saying that people calling Bushco's "keeping the nuclear first-strike option on the table" INSANE are stupid.
(paraphrasing) "Iran has STOCKPILES of nuclear weapons and these people are criticizing Bush for wanting to do SOMETHING to stop Iran from WIPING OTHER COUNTRIES OFF THE MAP?!!!"
I found the (unlikely) owner of the computer issuing forth such garbage and asked her, "Does Iran have nuclear weapons?"
"Oh YEAH," she says, "And they're planning to attack Isreal and Los Angeles with them!"
"What was that about Jane Fonda?" I asked.
"She says all her friends are communists. Isn't that scary?"
The brainwashing of Amurrka continues....
-T
Posted by: Hajji at April 19, 2006 04:51 PM
Scary.
Posted by: Carrie at April 19, 2006 04:56 PM
Jeanne 229, you ARE kidding, aren't you? The last thing on earth those brain damaged NWO lunatics want is for Mexico to have a healthy economy, or us for that matter. Whenever they start talking about wall building I think about what Israel is doing and it makes me SICK! I also wonder what they are trying to distract us from. A wall would cost tons of money, where the hell do they think they would get it? Hit China up for more?
capt 234, good for Roger Waters! I'm still watching Paradise Now, I just can't believe how Israel has gotten away with playing the victim for so long. If Geronimo were alive today doing his thing he would be smeared as an America hating terrorist!
Gerald, the strange thing is Iran is not breaking any agreement by pursuing nuclear power, they signed the non-proliferation treaty that Israel refused to sign, but it permits nuclear energy production, they have allowed endless inspections, something Israel refuses to do. So who is in violation here? We already know that Israel has thumbed their nose at 60+ UN resolutions, but I don't see the US threatening to drop nukes on them. Just another BS double standard.
Posted by: Saladin at April 19, 2006 04:58 PM
A Nuclear Nutcase
Posted by: Gerald at April 19, 2006 04:59 PM
Hajji, we are SO SCREWED! I hold the MSM 95% to blame, the other 5% is dipshit, gullible people.
Posted by: Saladin at April 19, 2006 05:01 PM
Spreading Our Signature Democracy
Posted by: Gerald at April 19, 2006 05:04 PM
Chavez begins turning off US oil taps after inking deal with India
Venezuela's state owned oil company PDVSA has inked a key deal with India, taking the first key step away from the U.S. as its major oil buyer. At the same time, PDVSA has announced that it will no longer reveal oil statistics to the SEC after paying off its debts. The India deal and the refusal to disclose information are not just strategic, but also send a message to the US about Venezuela's future plans with regard to supplying the US with oil.
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Mr. Chavez is asking for a world of hurt. But it is us who will pay in the long run. Man we are so screwed.
Posted by: Saladin at April 19, 2006 05:09 PM
White House press secretary Scott McClellan and senior advisor Karl Rove have announced their resignation from the Bush administration.
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Is this true? I thought he was just easing back a bit? There is something rotten about all of this. Is Fitz getting too close for comfort, or is this another trick?
Posted by: Saladin at April 19, 2006 05:11 PM
Access to Water Seen as a Factor for Peace
VATICAN CITY, MARCH 20, 2006 (ZENIT.org).- The Holy See, insisting that every human being has a right to access to water, presented that challenge as a "key factor for peace and security" in the world.
The Holy See affirmed this in a document it distributed at the 4th World Water Forum, under way in Mexico City through Wednesday.
The international meeting aims to raise public awareness about issues involving water, and to stimulate dialogue among various groups and nations that are looking to promote sustainable development.
The document, prepared by the Pontifical Council for Peace and Justice, updates a 2003 document, "Water, an Essential Element for Life."
"Water is much more than just a basic human need," says the text. "It is an essential, irreplaceable element to ensuring the continuance of life. Water is intrinsically linked to fundamental human rights such as the right to life, to food and to health."
"Access to safe water is a basic human right," it states, citing a message to the bishops of Brazil in 2004, in which Pope John Paul II wrote, "as a gift from God, water is a vital element essential to survival, thus everyone has a right to it."
For the poor
The Holy See document says that defining access to safe water as a human right "is an important step in making this access a reality in the lives of many people living in poverty."
It further recognizes that the "vital importance of water to humanity means also that it is a strategic factor for the establishment and maintenance of peace in the world."
"Water is a dimension of what is referred to today as resource security," the document continues. "Conflicts have already occurred for control over water resources and others may come center stage the more water scarcity manifests its consequences on the lives of human beings and their communities." It cited two examples: the Horn of Africa and the Middle East.
"To foster peace and an appropriate level of security in the current world situation," the Holy See contends, "governments and international organizations will inevitably have to increase efforts to ensure that every person has access to safe water."
The document observes that water governance and management is "a question of justice and responsibility." It also recognizes: "There are particular ethical issues involved in water management decision-making.
"Perhaps the most controversial and contentious of these issues is water pricing. At present, people living in poverty often pay substantially more for access to safe water and sanitation than those more financially secure. The payment by the poor is not limited only to the financial realm. Many times they pay more also in terms of physical effort and in terms of their health."
"Solutions for access to safe water and sanitation," the document adds, "should express a preferential love and consideration for the poor."
Yes, we are track to exterminate 6 billion people as the PNAC desires. But always remember that the Nazis in the Bushitler's regime are pro-life. Even with the elinination of 6 billion people Nazi Americans will praise the Bushitler's policies and practices.
Posted by: Gerald at April 19, 2006 05:15 PM
"Full opportunity for full development is the unalienable right of all. He who denies
it is a tyrant, he who does not demand it is a coward; he who is indifferent to it is
a slave; he who does not desire it is dead. The Earth for all the people! That is
the demand." - Eugene V. Debs
"I would not be a Capitalist; I would be a man; you cannot be both at the same time."
- Eugene V. Debs, 1905
Posted by: Robert Schwartz at April 19, 2006 05:16 PM
We are ON track to exterminate 6 billion people. Even with the ELIMINATION of 6 billion people Nazi Americans will praise Bushitler's policies and practices.
Posted by: Gerald at April 19, 2006 05:24 PM
#199 Saladin
Of course the Dems and GOPers are on the same page. They just keeps getting closer and closer together melding into the one party system. The problem is, as we write about endlessly here, it has become a dictatorship. It's the current unbelievable impotence of our Congress and the horrible peril lying ahead for the country. It doesn't give one much cause for hope.
There's speculation that Rove dropped the policy-making portion of his job because he's lost his security clearance. He was going to only be involved in the political portion anyway since it's an election year. That's been Rove's MO.
Posted by: Carey at April 19, 2006 05:26 PM
Saladin,
At least it all looks better through the bottom of a Sierra Nevada Pale Ale...
New Post...Dave's glory daze of asking Scotty a question he wouldn't answer...
Go figgur..
-T
Posted by: Hajji at April 19, 2006 05:28 PM
Where did all the good people go?
I've been changing channels, I don't see them on the TV shows
Where'd all the good people go?
We got heaps and heaps of what we sow.
Jack Johnson
Posted by: Saladin at April 19, 2006 05:28 PM
Why
Posted by: Gerald at April 19, 2006 05:32 PM
Yet, Nazi Americans love Bushitler!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Gerald at April 19, 2006 05:34 PM
Extraordinary Means
Posted by: Gerald at April 19, 2006 05:46 PM
More People Will Die! Is It Morally Right?
Posted by: Gerald at April 19, 2006 05:49 PM
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