Tell the truth? What's that?

Ha. Tell the truth? Is that possible for a politician? I thought they would explode or something.

I like Michael Deaver's (Reagan called him his adopted son) defense. He said that he was drunk and he could not remember. When in doubt always plead that you are a drunk!

Mr. David Corn,

Smacks of desperate times in the Libby camp.

They are really reaching! Notice the defense is trying EVERYTHING except saying Libby didn't lie. Fitzgerald has him dead to rights - speaking of which - still silence from your "B" - Rich?

Thanks for all of your work.

(I hope more bloggerheads in the works?)

Kirk

"Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't." ~ Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)

If my wife would only buy that one...

It'll go something like this:

Your boss declassified information and told you to get it out to the press?

Yes.

What information did he declassify and instruct you to disseminate?

I thought I remembered what it was but I didn't.

Your thought you remembered?

Yes

What did you think you remembered?

I think I remembered all the classified information that I was to tell Judy Miller and other reporters.

Did you?

yes.

That what did you mis-remember?

You mean honestly mistakenly remember?

Yes.

Everything.

Thank you your honor.

Your witness Mr. Fitzgerald.

I got a chuckle from this one

A man died and went to Heaven. As he stood in front ofthe Pearly Gates, he saw a huge wall of clocks behind him.He asked, "What are all those clocks?"St. Peter answered, "Those are Lie-Clocks. Everyone onearth has a Lie-Clock. Every time you lie the hands onyour clock move.""Oh", said the man. "Whose clock is that?" "That's Mother Teresa's", replied St. Peter. "Thehands have never moved, indicating that she nevertold a lie.""Incredible", said the man. "And whose clock is thatone?"St. Peter responded, "That's Abraham Lincoln's clock.The hands have moved twice, telling us that Abrahamtold only two lies in his entire life.""Where's Bush's clock?" asked the man."Bush's clock is in Jesus' office. He's using it as a ceiling fan.

Mr. Libby, one of this administration's greatest neo-con warriors has suffered from acute retro-temporal amnesia due to mild brain damage from being so dedicated to his work.

I am starting a public collection to help pay for Mr. Libby's brain surgery and port-surgical therapy. 95% of every dollar collected will go to pay lawyer's feed. Mr. Libby needs all the help you can afford! Please give generously.

Can you imagine if Bill Clinton had used the same analogy during his MOLEW defense? "I am the President of the US and I just can't remember everything that is going on with all the meetings I attend every day" HA

"Not guilty by reason of amnesia?" Is that part of the US Code I'm not familiar with? How would their argument go? He repeatedly told the same untrue story, but just because he had forgotten what the real story was, and made up a new one, which he was better able to remember, and convinced himself it was the truth, so he wasn't actually lying, just delusional? Right. You can see why they'd need some high-powered expert witness to dress it up.

Some `memories' to keep in mind as to the corporatocracy you Lefties are so paranoid about:

Exercepts From Motley Fools, 2/28/06, on :

Here's just how fast industries are disappearing...

From 1972 to 1987, the government deleted 50 industries from the SIC codes (standard industrial classifications), and added 200.

From 1987 to 1997, they deleted 500, and added almost 1000. The next time there's a tally, you can bet the additions and deletions will be even more dramatic.

And what about companies that do not innovate? One-third of the companies listed in the 1970 Fortune 500 had vanished by 1983.
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BTW, Motley Fool Hidden Gem is a great (& cheap) source of uncovering future Diebolds, Haliburtons, Wal Mart.......

Memory loss?!

THAT'S his defense?!

"The dog ate my recollection" is more plausible.

"I would have told the truth IF I remembered it"

"Dick sent a message, if I remembered I might get shot (this time buckshot) in my face"

"It's fall now. Out West, where you vacation, the aspens will already be turning. They turn in clusters, because their roots connect them. Come back to work -- and life."

“I recall watching the vice president, who was staring out the window at the Pentagon, and wondering what he may be thinking about, the responsibilities he would have in the future. A pretty sobering moment.”

BushCo Reams Nation Good No WMDs after all, no excuse for war, too late for anyone to care anymore. Ha-ha, suckers

Ha-ha-ha oh man did we ever get smacked on that one. Conned big time. Punk'd like dogs. Just gotta shake your head, laugh it off. They reamed us but good, baby! Damn.

Turns out it really was all a big joke after all. The war, that is. All a big fat nasty murderous oil-licking lie, a sneaky little power-mad game with you as the sucker and the world as the pawn and BushCo as the slithery war thug, the dungeon master, the prison daddy. You really have to laugh. Because it's just so wonderfully ridiculous. In a rather disgusting, soul-draining sort of way.

See, there are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. No WMDs at all. Isn't that great? What's more: There never were. Ha-ha-ha. Gotcha!

No warehouses teeming with nuclear warheads, no underground bunkers packed with vats of boiling biotoxins, no drums of crazy-ass chemical agents that will melt your skin and turn us all into drooling flesh-eating zombies -- unless, of course, you count the sneering vat of conservative biotoxin that is, say, Fox News, in which case, hell yeah baby, we gotcher WMDs right here beeyatch.

Go figure. Those lowly U.N. inspectors were right after all. Who knew? It was all a ruse. We've been sucker-punched and ideologically molested and patriotically sodomized and hey, what the hell, who cares anyway, we "liberated" an oppressed people most Americans secretly loathe and fear and don't understand in the slightest, even though that was never the point, or the justification, or the goal. Go team.

But wait, is liberation of a brutalized and tormented people now the reason? The justification for our thuggery? That is so cool! So that means we're going to blow the living crap out of Sri Lanka and Sudan and Tibet and North Korea and about 47 others, right? Right? Maybe Saudi Arabia, too, second only to the Taliban itself in its abuse of women? Cool! As if.

Ah, but screw the liberal whiny peacenik U.N. inspectors, you know? Let's ask the U.S. search teams themselves, ShrubCo's own squadrons of biologists, chemists, arms-treaty enforcers, nuclear operators, computer and document experts and Special Forces troops who've been in Iraq for weeks now, searching frantically.

More HERE

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A fun ride in the way-back machine.

capt

Hey, why not claim memory loss??? Such a claim has kept many a government official out of jail (including Hillary Clinton and Ronald Reagan). Libby's mistake was not claiming memory loss all along.

Bob in....I don't recall

Libby claiming memory loss is like Bush claiming divine guidance.

Terra

When you grow older, three things are for sure going to go. The first one is your memory and ... and ... I can't remember what the other two are.

You.. can be a millionaire.. and never pay taxes! You can be a millionaire.. and never pay taxes! You say.. "Steve.. how can I be a millionaire.. and never pay taxes?" First.. get a million dollars. Now.. you say, "Steve.. what do I say to the tax man when he comes to my door and says, 'You.. have never paid taxes'?" Two simple words. Two simple words in the English language: "I forgot!" How many times do we let ourselves get into terrible situations because we don't say "I forgot"? Let's say you're on trial for armed robbery. You say to the judge, "I forgot armed robbery was illegal." Let's suppose he says back to you, "You have committed a foul crime. you have stolen hundreds and thousands of dollars from people at random, and you say, 'I forgot'?" Two simple words: Excuuuuuse me!!"

Steve Martin

Get thee some ginkgo biloba! Remember when the Dems wrote a letter to bush back in July, 2005, about John Bolton's presumed upcoming recess appointment? That was when Bolton lied (because he couldn't remember) to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on the questionnaire he swore was truthful. The letter said, in part:

"Mr. Bolton's excuse that he "didn't recall being interviewed by the State Department's Inspector General" is simply not believable. How can you forget an interview about an issue so important that the United States Senate unanimously passed an amendment stating that Congress supports "the thorough and expeditious investigation by the Inspector General of the Department of State and the Inspector General of the Central Intelligence Agency into the documents ... that the President relied on to conclude that Iraq had attempted to obtain uranium from Africa"?"

Well, the "memory loss defense" worked for Bolton, albeit in a setting other than a court of law. Bolton got his recess appointment to the UN. These neo-totalitarian guys can't remember shit when they choose to forget because it helps them get what they want.

Scooter and Shooter look out for each other.

Just Think! If Scooter Libby was a robot then Chenney could:
1. Shut him down
2. Erase his all his memory banks
3. Reformat his memory banks
4. Reload Memory

Easy as that! Maybe Bushenney should look into hiring robots as advisors next time.

People lose there memory all the time. Can you people honestly say that you can rememeber what you did on a particular date in 2003? I doubt it!

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.": William Pitt - (1759-1806) British Prime Minister (1783-1801, 1804-06) during the French Revolutionary and Napoleonic wars. - Source: Speech, House of Commons, 18 November 1783

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"There are some things the general public does not need to know, and shouldn't. I believe democracy flourishes when the government can take legitimate steps to keep its secrets and when the press can decide whether to print what it knows" The late Katharine Graham, owner of the Washington Post

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The foulest damage to our political life comes not from the 'secrets' which they hide from us, but from the little bits of half-truth and disinformation
which they do tell us. These are already pre-digested, and then are sicked up as little gobbits of authorised spew. The columns of defence correspondents in the establishment sheets serve as the spittoons.: E.P. Thompson, British historian

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Thanks ICH Newsletter!

EU gives Serbia until end of March to handover Mladic

BRUSSELS, Feb. 27 (Xinhuanet) -- European Union (EU) foreign ministers have given Belgrade until the end of March to arrest and transfer Bosnian Serb military commander Ratko Mladic and other indictees to the UN tribunal in The Hague.

The foreign ministers said in a council conclusion on Monday that there is a risk of disruption of association talks with Serbia and Montenegro if there is still no "full cooperation" with the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia (ICTY).

"Serbia still has some weeks to achieve full cooperation -- roughly at the end of March," EU enlargement commissioner Olli Rehn told a press conference.

The next round of Stabilization and Association Agreement (SAA) talks, initial technical preparations for EU membership negotiations, which was originally scheduled for April 5, could be "put on hold" if Serbia fails to achieve this goal, said Rehn.

He said the European Commission, the executive body of the EU, recommended the opening of SAA talks last April on the ground that the country had made significant progress which could have led to full cooperation with the ICTY.

A year later, he said cooperation has deteriorated. "There has been some very recent recovery, but not much yet," he added.

He said SAA talks could be concluded by the end of the year if the obstacle -- non-cooperation with the ICTY -- is cleared. "The European Union is firmly committed to a European perspective of Serbia and Montenegro," he told the press conference.

"Serbia is truly at crossroads today. I believe the leaders and people of the country have the wisdom to take clear and bold decisions so that the European perspective can be materialized to the benefit of the people," he told another press conference after an EU troika meeting with Serbia and Montenegro Foreign Minister Vuk Draskovic.

Draskovic said there is no further excuse for his country for not being able to fulfill the obligation of full cooperation with the ICTY.

"Today we've got a message that we must fulfill that obligation immediately. I hope this time we will do that," he told a joint press conference with Rehn and the foreign ministers of Austria and Finland, the current and next EU presidencies.

Draskovic blamed "political forces of the former regime" -- in reference to the government of former Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic -- on his country's failure to capture Mladic.

"I do not know where Gen. Mladic is. But what I do know is who is protecting ... Gen. Mladic and other fugitives -- the political forces of the former regime."

Mladic has been indicted by the UN war crimes tribunal on charges of genocide and other crimes against humanity.

He is suspected of a major role in the massacre of some 8,000 Muslim men and boys in the UN-protected enclave of Srebrenica during the 1992-95 Bosnia war.

The EU is holding talks with both the state union of Serbia and Montenegro and separately with the two republics. It is generally believed that SAA talks with Montenegro would not be significantly affected as the twin-track scheme is in place.

Montenegro is seeking independence, but the political forces in the republic have yet to agree on terms of a referendum. Enditem

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They have until March because after March Mladic might be able to join in the fun? Maybe he can get hired as a "private contractor" by the Bunnypants gang?

capt

People lose there(sic) memory all the time. Can you people honestly say that you can rememeber what you did on a particular date in 2003? I doubt it!

hahaha Wow, all they have to get is a hint at what the new talking point is, and they get right in line, don't they? Maybe he forgot what he had for dinner that night, but I'm sure if you were committing treason and outing a CIA officer, that would stick with you.
Honestly, you bushbots know no shame.

A CBS commissioned poll shows Bush with an approval rating of 34%. Yet he still beats Congress who has an approval rating of 28%.
CBS approval ratings wouldn't measure on the Richter Scale.

CBS Poll

CBS Cesspool

Polls pools, or poodles Bush SUCKS and is the worst president in the history of the planet - bar none.

C'mon Alan. People do lose there memory all the time but they usually find it in the last place they look. Rememeber?

On remembering:

Most people do not remember committing felonies or treason beacause most people are not traitorous felons and traitors.

If committing treason and felonies are so commonplace that the crimes just get lost in the blur of "what's for dinner on Wednesday" the criminal is a career criminal and needs to go to prison and stay locked up until they can keep their crimes straight. How many covert CIA agents has Libby outed?

capt

Point being, it appears politicians and news networks rank low on the approval ratings of the American people. That they should!

another poll on AOL today...

What rating would you give Bush's overall performance?
Poor 76%
Good 9%
Fair 9%
Excellent 6%
What rating would you give Cheney's overall performance?
Poor 76%
Fair 9%
Good 9%
Excellent 6%
Total Votes: 119,557

Which issue has hurt them the most?
War in Iraq 64%
U.S. ports deal 14%
Hurricane response 7%
War on terror 5%
Economy 4%
Gas prices 4%
Social Security 1%
Total Votes: 124,710

How would you describe the media coverage of Cheney's accident?
About right 40%
Excessive 34%
Not enough 26%
Did the accident change your opinion of Cheney?
No 60%
Yes, for the worse 37%
Yes, for the better 3%
Total Votes: 120,795
*check that one out, he fkn shoots somebody and some idiots like him even more.

Militias, armed gangs rule streets of Iraq

BAGHDAD, Feb 28 (Reuters) - Look in the pockets of Iraqis whose jobs take them around Baghdad every day and you are likely to find a clutch of passes and identity cards, one for every police, military or militia checkpoint they may run into.

"This one is says I'm Badr, this one I show to police, and I have the American press pass and my ordinary ID. I applied for a Mehdi Army pass on Friday but it hasn't arrived yet," said one Iraqi driver working for a foreign media organisation.

"I am Sunni so these passes mean I don't get in trouble with anyone while I'm out and about."

The sheer proliferation of armed groups -- some official, some unofficial and some that operate in the murky middle ground -- underscores the lawlessness of Iraq, where neither U.S. forces who invaded in 2003 nor the Iraqi armed forces they trained have been able to impose their authority on the whole country.

Add to that the militias, most drawn up on ethnic or religious lines, and the mix is potentially explosive as the sectarian violence that brought Iraq to the brink of civil war last week showed all too clearly.

More HERE

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I am glad the MSM and the WH say the civil war has been averted. Maybe someone should tell the gangs and militias that are running the streets?

capt

Just ran across this site. Very useful one stop shop for everything called Reference Desk.

Reference Desk

Jon Stewart on Larry King

KING: You don't want Medicare to fail?

STEWART: Are you insane?

KING: No.

STEWART: You're literally asking me if I would prefer -- yes, Larry, what I'm saying to you as a comedian I want old people to suffer, old and poor people to suffer. That is -- that is -- what we want is -- what seems absurd to me is the length that Washington just seems out of touch with the desires of Americans to be spoken to as though they are adults.

I mean when you listen to Bush's speeches, and I'm leaving the Democrats out because I honestly don't feel that they make an impact. They have 49 percent of the vote and three percent of the power. At a certain point you go "Guys, pick up your game."

But Bush, you know the other day when he had the speech about us being addicted to oil, he says those things as though, you know, he just thought of it and we're disagreeing with him, like everybody's been saying that. Jimmy Carter said it I think in 1978.

And he comes out, "What people don't realize is we're addicted to foreign oil" and he's saying it like you're going "Get out of here." We're addicted. You don't get it people. You know he was the guy on the stump a few years ago making fun of hybrid cars because it wasn't manly. And -- and his vice president did shoot a 78-year-old man in the face. Aaron Burr was the last vice president to shoot a guy in the face, Alexander Hamilton.

KING: And that was a duel.

STEWART: That was a duel based on personal integrity. This vice president thought a 78-year-old man was a bird. It happens. What are you going to do?

KING: We've declined as a society right?

STEWART: I cannot tell you how many times I'll turn around and go, "Grandpa," oh no it's a pigeon.

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I disagree, the Democrats had 49% no way to know what they have and power wise - I say maybe one percent.

capt

Maybe some of the gun folks thought his stories of hunting was just for show, but now that he actually shot something...

My God, this administration is full of the wussiest people on the planet. Cheney shoots somebody and hides behind women. Libby leaks classified info for his boss because he is too much of a wuss to say, "sir, that's illegal." (he's a freaking lawyer. He knows what he's doing) and now he's claiming he doesn't remember. Pawlease. "I have broken the law so many times I lose track of when I break it."
This is a cabal of children.

I love Jon Stewart. Now there's a man with a memory.

Well Jon is not the man with the mammary - that would be Ann Coulter.

Jon is great. My wife has mentioned how funny it is that we can lean more for a fake news show that a real one.

capt,

mAnn Coulter: SNTSADIHM

Rick

Larry King asked Jon Stewart who fascinates him the most and Jon said the American people for their patience. Patience isn't what I call it.

litmus test
Function: noun
Date: 1952
: a test in which a single factor (as an attitude, event, or fact) is decisive
++++++++++++++
Okay, here we go...here's a litmus test:

We should outsource the Secret Service to Dubai and see if bush and cheney and gang think it's a good idea because there is nothing to worry about.

If you own a 1999 Plymouth Neon, check this link, then realize you actually have a fairly safe vehicle. Go figgur!

Waynesville Daily Guide

This information is current as of today, Tue Feb 28 2006 20:11:31 GMT-0800. United Arab Emirates

Be sure to check out this site for a "trouble-free" vacation to UAE. Seriously, read it carefully. You won't want to be surprised by the different standards....gee, didn't bush say something about "different standards" the other day.

U.S. Troops in Iraq: 72% Say End War in 2006

Le Moyne College/Zogby Poll shows just one in five troops want to heed Bush call to stay "as long as they are needed"
While 58% say mission is clear, 42% say U.S. role is hazy
Plurality believes Iraqi insurgents are mostly homegrown
Almost 90% think war is retaliation for Saddam's role in 9/11, most don't blame Iraqi public for insurgent attacks
Majority of troops oppose use of harsh prisoner interrogation
Plurality of troops pleased with their armor and equipment

An overwhelming majority of 72% of American troops serving in Iraq think the U.S. should exit the country within the next year, and nearly one in four say the troops should leave immediately, a new Le Moyne College/Zogby International survey shows.

The poll, conducted in conjunction with Le Moyne College's Center for Peace and Global Studies, showed that 29% of the respondents, serving in various branches of the armed forces, said the U.S. should leave Iraq "immediately," while another 22% said they should leave in the next six months. Another 21% said troops should be out between six and 12 months, while 23% said they should stay "as long as they are needed."

The Top 10 Conservative Idiots

So, apparently George W. Bush (1) isn't that serious about this whole "national security" thing after all. Last week we learned that he wants to hand over our ports to a country with a (shall we say) less-than-perfect record in the war on terror. But that wasn't the worst that happened last week. It looks like Iraq is teetering on the brink of civil war. But not to worry! Fox News (5) says it's a good thing. Meanwhile, Rita Cosby (6) has some interesting spin about the Democrats, Conservative Crackpots (7) are pushing their hate agenda, and Bill O'Reilly (10) may have finally lost it.
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What will we do when we don't have these crack pots to kick around anymore?

Lost his memory? Hasn't that excuse already been used? Seems like it had something to do with Iran-Contra.

Scooter, Scooter, Scooter. Do you really think that piggie's gonna fly?

"I forgot" may have worked in elementary school when Mrs. Weidermeyer caught you in the girls' bathroom, but come on. You don't really think the judge will believe you when you say, "I forgot I outed a CIA agent to newspaper reporters." Sure, that Harvard professor will say, "Yes, Scooter forgot he outed a CIA agent to newspaper reporters. He was very busy." But that will just make him look a silly liar too. A highly paid silly liar.

Scooter, it's time to come clean. Uncle Dick hasn't been very nice to you. All you need to do is come out and tell those scary men in suits that Uncle Dick put you up to it. Then you can go back to scaring the girls and pulling the wings off butterflies.

http://www.dubaicityguide.com/main/index.asp

DEN from previous thread, your warning was not completely out of line and I appreciate the heads up, better safe than sorry.

"Trust no one, not even yourself." If a caller is unknown to you and his story sounds fishy, hang up.

#-9-0 Phone Scam

David, I may have to swear about this one.

The Minnesota GOP's Stealth Attack On Privacy

A story by Minnesota Public Radio reveals a disturbing new way that a political party is secretly grabbing sensitive personal information about voters.

This week the Minnesota Republican Party is distributing a new CD about a proposed state marriage amendment. Along with flashy graphics, the CD asks people their views on controversial issues such as abortion, gun control, illegal immigration, and so on.

The problem –†the CD sends your answers back to headquarters, filed by name, address, and political views. No mention of that in the terms of use. No privacy policy at all. The story concludes: "so if you run the CD in your personal computer, by the end of it, the Minnesota GOP will not only know what you think on particular issues, but also who you are."

These practices fall way below the standard for today's polling firms and web sites. The norm for polling firms is to anonymize the data and report only statistical totals. The norm for commercial web sites is to have a privacy policy, with Federal Trade Commission enforcement if the web site breaks its privacy promise.

Without a privacy policy, the state party can tell your views to anyone at all. If you give the "wrong" answers on abortion or other issues, they can tell your boss, members of your church, or anyone else. In fact, these answers could get distributed to campaigns in your town during get-out-the-vote efforts –†precisely the place where "wrong" answers can be most damaging.

The right answer here is simple. If you are collecting data and keeping it in identified form, then you should tell people. If you are selling your lists or sending them to other groups, you should tell that as well. That goes for all political parties.
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Where's Darren McGavin when I need him?
This is the mentality of the GOP in my state. Nothing classy. They are earth dwellers. They actually think this behavior is ok and feel very put off when the people of MN tell them what losers they are.

Don, what was the name of your Baptist high school?

It is a disease "GOP dementia" - it only effects the parts of the brain that think.

I use caller ID to screen my calls and I never actually answer the phone - I am just content knowing when somebody called. I don't even have the ringer on, I just watch for the flashing red light.

Works for me!

capt

"It is a disease "GOP dementia" - it only effects the parts of the brain that think." Well then......we don't have much to worry about;)

Iraq's worst week -- and Bush's

As Americans finally begin to grasp the magnitude of the Iraq catastrophe, Bush's popularity hits a new low.

The catastrophe in Iraq, the scope of which is now apparent to even the most disengaged observer, and his mishandling of the Dubai port issue have sent President George W. Bush's public approval ratings to the lowest of his presidency. According to a Reuters poll, only 34 percent of Americans believe he is doing a good job overall. Only 30 percent, less than a third, think he is managing the Iraq situation well. A remarkable 72 percent of American troops polled in Iraq think the U.S. should leave Iraq within the next year. Nor is there any hope for Bush on the horizon. The bloody events in Iraq have undermined American authority in that country and in the Middle East more generally. The Shiite clergy of Iran and Iraq have bolstered their own authority at Bush's expense. This development has already severely limited his scope of action in Iran, and will doubtless have many other negative consequences in the months and years ahead.

Tactically, strategically and politically Bush now finds himself in the worst of all possible worlds. With Americans increasingly fed up with the Iraq debacle, he needs to start drawing down troops soon, but he can't do it while the country teeters on the brink of civil war. If civil war does break out, a U.S. withdrawal will look even more like cutting and running -- under these circumstances, not even Karl Rove will be able to figure out a way to get away with simply declaring victory and going home. Yet if American troops stay, they have no good options either. The U.S. desperately needs to keep the Sunnis in the government, but if Shiites launch reprisal attacks against Sunnis, Americans will not be able to respond for fear that the Shiites, too, will turn on them -- as indeed they have already begun to do. And as the shrine bombing shows, Iraq is a vial of nitroglycerine that can be set off with one shake. Imagine what would happen if one of the leading clerics, Sunni or Shiite, was assassinated. It is difficult to say how aware Bush is of the reality in Iraq, but some part of him must be cursing the day he decided to invade it.

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The rest needs a Salon site pass or premium.

capt

The believing mind is uneffected. That way the blind lemmings do not have to conflict with reality.

I understand they infect their minions by way of koolaid.

capt

#26
"People lose there (sic) memory all the time. Can you people honestly say that you can rememeber (sic) what you did on a particular date in 2003? I doubt it!"

Which day? The day I deliberately disseminated classified information to discredit a critic of the administration's case for war? Well YES, I would remember it.

Apologists and bushbots seem to forget Mr. Libby told a consistent and compelling story to the FBI and the Grand Jury, which seemed reasonable to investigators, until other facts in the case revealed Libby's story was NOT TRUE. Moreover, it is clear to the Justice Department that LIBBY's story was OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE - efforts made to impede progress in the investigation - and they intend to prove it.

Do you honestly believe Libby forgot the truth and formed a cohesive and consistent false memory about the events including multiple conversations with multiple journalists? That his false memory recollection was so clear and compelling that he failed to review his own diary and notebooks before testifying to the FBI and Grand Jury? I ask these questions rhetorically because what you think doesn't matter (honestly.) Mr. Fitzgerald would not have indicted Libby on five counts unless he was confident he could get a conviction. Mr. Fitzgerald has a successful track record putting the mob and al Queda behind bars.

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chat this --------> *grabs crotch*

Reverse crotch grab.

Next?

David Corn, what the hell do you know about the truth? A truthful word has never come from you. David Corn, you are an ignorant, worthless, liar, precahing to a bunch of fools on your blog. Anyone who believes a words David Corn says, is an idiot.

...and you've got flat feet! And...and, and you father smelt of elderberries!

-idiot #1

Shiites Told: Leave Home Or Be Killed
Sunnis Force Evictions As Iraq Tensions Grow

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BAGHDAD, Feb. 28 -- Salim Rashid, 34, a Shiite laborer in an overwhelmingly Sunni Arab village 20 miles north of Baghdad, received his eviction notice Friday from a man at the door with a rocket launcher.

"It's 6 p.m.," Rashid recounted the masked man saying then, as retaliatory violence between Shiites and Sunnis exploded across wide swaths of central Iraq. "We want you out of here by 8 p.m. tomorrow. If we find you here, we will kill you."
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Ah, shucks, they're just blowin' off some steam!

Thanx for the Civil War, the Dumbyass!

-T

Jesus Mary and Joseph even grade school kids are not allowed to use such a lame excuse, why Libby.

To bad Clinton did not try to use this weak argument in regard to his blowjob..."It is understandable that he may have forgotten or misremembered relatively less significant events."

Libby has no conscience, no shame and no soul. They actually have the nerve to call outing an intelligence agent who was following the path of Weapons of Mass destruction "less significant events."

Set the whole group of neo-cons in the middle of Baghdad, so they can see the results of their lies.

Hajji, Karma is saving something REAL special for us.

Yeah officer, I know this looks bad, my car sitting in this old ladies living room, but I geuss I forgot that I drank a gallon of whiskey, then I forgot that I wasnt supposed to drive my car, then I forgot that I didnt even own a car or a drivers license and I forgot that I stole this car and I forgot which pedal was the brake...

The Insurgency: Advantage Ba'athists

The latest civil violence in Iraq works toward the Ba'athists' long-term plans to regain control of Iraq -- and U.S. forces are falling right into the trap.

Thinking back on my time as a weapons inspector in Iraq, I often compare and contrast the memories of what I saw and experienced during my nearly seven-year experience in the Iraq of Saddam Hussein, and that which I see through the lens of the media since the U.S.-led invasion and occupation of Iraq.

The experience has ranged from the deeply personal, seeing the very office spaces I and other inspectors worked in at the U.N. Headquarters compound in the Canal Hotel blown up in November 2003; to the spiritual, with the most recent horror inflicted on Iraq being the destruction of the al-Askari shrine, part of the Imam Ali al-Hadi Mausoleum.

The Canal Hotel had been my home away from home during my tenure as a U.N. weapons inspector in Iraq. It was the "home base" of the inspection teams, a sanctuary from which we sortied out on a daily basis to wage disarmament. It was also a safe haven to which we returned at the end of the day, exhausted and frazzled from inspections which, for the last few years of our work in Iraq, more often than not ended in crisis and confrontation. Here we could call home and speak to loved ones, go downstairs for a quiet meal in the U.N. cafeteria, and at night join our friends and colleagues for a barbecue and drinks at the U.N. bar.

More HERE

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No good news.

capt

Grand Theft Baghdad

"U.S. officials used virtually no financial controls payments were made from the back of a pickup truck and cash was stored in unguarded sacks in Iraqi ministry offices..."

With Halliburton receiving over half the value of the Iraq reconstruction contracts, all calls for accountability have automatically been dismissed as a partisan attack on the vice president or an element of the anti-war agenda that threatens undermine troop morale...

President Bush just sent Congress a request for another $72.4 billion for the Iraq war and occupation. Instead of writing another blank check, Congress should commit itself to a thorough investigation of the incompetence and corruption that has undermined the reconstruction mission. At the same time that it demands that the administration provide a clearer overall strategy in Iraq, Congress should establish a permanent committee on war profiteering and corruption modeled after the one Harry Truman chaired during World War II.

The president's own administration officials report that the reconstruction of Iraq has been botched. In early February, the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction, Stuart Bowen, released a report to the Senate Armed Services Committee that describes a significant gulf between the aims of U.S. reconstruction officials and what they will be able to accomplish. What Bowen called a "reconstruction gap" mostly affects three sectors essential to the success of Iraq's reconstruction: water, electricity and oil.

Given these and other shortfalls, it should be alarming that very little of the $72 billion that Bush is requesting would go to finish these jobs. Worse, Bowen warns that "the Iraqi government is not yet prepared to take over the near or long-term management and funding of infrastructure."

The problems are not simply technical and bureaucratic: there are also signs of massive corruption. In its 2005 report, Transparency International, which tracks governmental corruption around the globe, warned that post-war Iraq could be "the biggest corruption scandal in history..."
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Congress SHOULD do a lot of things, but they don't. Destruction, rape and pillage, that's the game plan as it always was. Why would they ever abandon such a lucrative cash cow? Especially when America doesn't seem to give a shit.

kathleen,

Adding neocons to any situation only makes it much, much, worse.

Where are the trolls today?

Carol #59,

My high school was called, at various times, both Roseville Baptist Academy and Beulah Baptist Academy. Are you now or have you ever been familiar with any B.A. Dawgs?

Ooops, that last post was a reference to Carol at post #56, not #59. Sorry.

corky, hopefully someone rounded those sheep up and put them back in the pen before they hurt themselves!

If it sez Libby, Libby, Libby, on the label, "I forgot", is a big fable. Plead INSANITY if you can get beyond your vanity.

Tucker Carlson and his little bowtie needs to go to Fox news where he belongs.

Liberal Media?

Predicting The Neocon
Plan To Nuke America

By Douglas Herman
2-28-6

...To anyone who cares, the NPT is some worthless piece of paper the US or Israel ignores completely. Probably by the end of the month (or before) we'll hear of air strikes, signaling another war-without-end.

In the meantime, a bunch of these same dildos (congress) are in a dither because Bush okayed a plan to sell a bunch of US ports. Since the deep-in-debt US doesn't actually make or manufacture anything else anymore that people wants to buy, selling ports is the logical next step, followed by selling our national parks, forests, rivers and reservoirs.

I guess Congress is worried that maybe an Arab terrorist would secretly ship a nuke here, since only about five percent of shipping containers are inspected. Not that the Office of Homeland Security appears to be worried. Lately they have been busy wasting money and manpower tracking down one bearded old veteran in Idaho who happened to paste some antiwar stickers on his trucks.

But allowing the Arabs to buy a bunch of US ports, would conveniently allow the Neocons to nuke one-Charleston perhaps--and predictably blame the Iranians or Syrians or Palestinians, or whomever.

A funny thing has happened with these Neocon slimeballs in power. Every move they now make is completely predictable several moves ahead (Except to the dildos in Congress). They have successfully maneuvered their chess pieces into a corner.

Selling the US ports to an Arab country was just the sort of predictable Neocon chess move, like ordering a "stand down" on September 11, 2001, because US military exercises just happened to occur the exact same day Arab terrorists planned to strike America. So a shipping container heading to a US port controlled by Arabs, with a terrorist nuke device, was pretty predictable.

Indeed, somewhere a container was already prepared for shipment. I believe. Another OBL videotape was being filmed. Another convenient scapegoat-US Coast Guard?-was being scripted. And some forgotten little nuke, from among the thousands in the US stockpile, was already wired for shipment. Maybe aimed for the nearby port of Fort Lauderdale, Florida, ten miles from my house. I mean, think of the billions for rebuilding.

But, unlike before 911, we now have Homeland Security and TSA and the PATRIOT Act. Thanks to the nefarious Neocons. So any domestic terrorist act will simply magnify the failings of the Neocons--to protect the American homeland. Right?

Once again, cornered like the rats they are.

The Neocons are nothing if not predictable. They are winning the game but losing the country. Nothing they do should ever surprise anyone. Nothing.

After all, they blew up three towers and killed 3,000 average Americans and yet have bungled every move since, in perfectly predictable yet criminal fashion, while enriching themselves. Only the boobs who believed in them after 911 have been shocked or stunned by the assortment of high crimes and misdemeanors that accompany every misdeed.

But the king is cornered and the bishops cower in purely defensive positions. The next move is one of desperation.
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It's strange but I feel the same way. There is absolutely NOTHING these psychos could do that would shock me anymore, I guess I'm neocon weary.

Or is it Libbyral media?

Corky, LBH checked out yesterday, said he was bored. Happy posted his usual wallowing in money drivel, so be carefull what you wish for, unless you are equipped with the Genuine Hasbro Wack-A-Troll tool for troll removal. HEH, HEH, HEH.

Sal, there is nothing more dangerous than a dog that is cornered. Chimpy owes U$A$E for some big favors like library donations paid by them so its no wonder he is trying to slide this port deal through. He almost made it........He still owes em bigtime. Not good people to have "agin ya".

I'm wondering, is it that this port deal is for Arabs, or because it is being outsourced? I read that 80% of our port security is already run by foreign interests, but I don't recall any fuss being made about it.

Sayed Rahmatullah Hashemi, former ambassador-at-large for the Taliban, is now studying at Yale on a U.S. student visa.

of course!

From: TVNewsLies

Who the F@#K is Safer Without Saddam?
He said it again. Bush said that the world was a safer place without Saddam! OK, I'm listening, now tell me exactly how the world is safer? Show me one single person on the planet that is safer now? Are the tens or hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who have died as a result of Operation We call Iraqi Freedom Even Though We Told You it Was Operation Protect Us From WMDs, And You Fell For It safer?

Is George W. Bush who needed a team of 5000 security personnel to protect him on his trip to India safer? Are the dead American soldiers and civilian contractors safer? Are the tens of thousands of US soldiers who will suffer the grave effects of the poisoning they received in Iraq as a result of the depleted uranium nuclear weapons used by the US safer? Am I safer? Are you safer?

Are the people who have no homes as a result of massive hurricanes safer? Are the workers who will now be exposed to higher levels of cancer causing chromium thanks to new legislation safer? Are Dick Cheney's hunting partners safer? Somebody please tell me, who the f@#k is safer? Think about it!

Sal, Not just any Arabs, filthy stinking rich Arabs. How do you think it would have been interpreted prior to 9/11? Chimpys "War on Terror" backfired on him. His zeal to group all Arab people into the terrorist mold and proclaim so to the entire world is in effect shooting hisself in the foot. Neocons warmongering produces unintended results.

From: Delhi News Online

ALERT : HEAVY SECURITY AT CAPITAL’ì AMERICAN OFFICES FEARING DEMONSTRATIONS BY VARIOUS GROUPS

Bush ride: six doors, missile-proof

Anubhuti Vishnoi

New Delhi, February 28: Over 47 vehicles, mainly SUVs, stretching over 100 yards. All protecting a 12-tonne six-door missile-proof limousine and its occupant.

This mammoth cavalcade today cruised through the Capital's streets at 50 to 55 km per hour, testing the routes the US president will be taking during his three day visit. The exercise began at 7 am from Maurya Sheraton with the cavalcade tracing the route to Hyderabad House, Rashtrapati Bhawan, Rajghat and back to the hotel. Later in the day, the cavalcade was deployed between the airport and the hotel and then to Purana Qila. The trial run for the 47-plus vehicle cavalcade went off without much trouble, said a senior police official. While there were some problems manouvering the giant cavalcade along some roads and finding parking, these problems were later sorted out officials said. The Bush cavalcade will be supplemented on the periphery with cars from Indian security forces, Delhi Police and the Traffic Police.
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As you can see, bush DEFINITELY feels MUCH safer now that the mean ole saddam is gone hahaha

Heres a good article about chimpies foibles, >The Boy Who Cried Wolf

Voice of the Whitehouse

There are always many who believe any propaganda issued by a government, no matter how fatuous it is on the surface but the Iranians, Russians and the rest of the Muslim world pay no attention to our clever attempts to brilliantly fool them, knowing how impossible it is in fact.

Faked tapes from top bin Laden people or even from the long-deceased bin Laden himself have as much credibility as one of Bush's trust me babbles or even the notorious Orange Alert days they have put back into the closet as being too unbelievable for any one but the remaining Pentecostal and proto-fascist diehard supporters of the dying regime.

Putin, in his quiet way, has been methodically improving Russia's world position while at the same time, waging a very successful economic warfare against Bush.

Because Putin has ousted the Jewish oligarchs from the control of vital Russian oil and gas reserves, naturally, the American media bleats about Putin's lack of respect for the civil rights of others.

How this administration, with its official torture policies and illegal domestic spying can dare to criticize any country as being undemocratic or in gross violations of the civil rights of their people is an exercise in gross hypocrisy.

America is running out of suppliers of oil and gas at an astonishing rate as more and more oil producing countries are finding other markets. That Putin has a hand in this is without a doubt and certainly explains the loud bleating about his bad civil rights record.

That will not get us the oil we need and when the cost of a gallon of gas or heating oil soars upwards, Bush and his people can then look for the Eskimos or the Australian Aborigines to blame for their own appalling incompetence and pig headed stupidity.
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This person says all the rumors about attacking Iran are BS. I wonder what the hell they are up to. It seems the height of stupidity to attack a country with friends like Russia and China, and even though they aren't actually BUILDING a nuke that doesn't mean they don't have one. If they're smart, they do.

GULAGS for american citizens in final planning stage

Bush administration and US army preparations to target American citizens and intern them in forced labor camps has vastly accelerated in the past month and commentators from all over the political spectrum are sounding the alarm bells that the round-ups may begin soon.

Following the news first given wide attention by this website, that Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root had been awarded a $385 million dollar contract by Homeland Security to construct detention and processing facilities in the event of a national emergency, the Alternet website put together an alarming report that collated all the latest information on plans to initiate internment of political subversives and Muslims after the next major terror attack in the US.

The Man With the Girlie Gun Action Figure, Get yours today!

Jeanne, Hajji, Carey...Life can sure be difficult at times. I hope you are all feeling better.

# 47 Jeanne (previous post) I generally admire Larisa's investigative reporting. Although this overview of Michael Ledeen is weak. I have followed Michael Ledeens thinking, writings and political analyst career for quite sometime. I encourage others to do research on this fellow and to not take this interview and Larisa' line of questioning as the full view of Ledeen. Go to the National Review site and read Ledeens writings yourself. Go read about his line of study and activities ( his national security clearance came under scrutiny years ago ). There was a question as to whether he was passing intelligence to the Israeli government via the organization he founded JINSA.

There was a great deal of reporting that Ledeen has been Roves brain on the middle east. That Ledeen played a major role in making contacts for false information in regard to Wmd's in Iraq.
He continues to push for military action in Iran and Syria.

I think Larisa's article allows Ledeen to lay out the ground work/doublespeak for attempting to squeeze out of the part he played in the run up to the pre-emptive invasion of Iraq. There is word that Fitzgerald and McNulty (the Aipac/Rosen trial coming up in April) has Ledeen in their sites.

Unless she digs deeper and wider in these next articles with Ledeen on his part in the run up to the war and in his allegiance to Israel before his allegiance to the U.s., she is just repeating what reporters and writers have all ready covered about Ledeen. (Justin Raimando at anti-war.com, Jason Leopold , Jason Vest Have all ready told us what she is reporting)

Ledeen is one of the masters of "doublespeak". When he says "punish all the guilty parties whoever they are, and do everything posssible to prevent anything of the sort happening again."

If the topic was accountability..Larisa allowed this radical thug another opportunity to LIE. She did not hold him accountable what so ever.

She allowed him to call Israel a Democracy without questioning him at all about the treatment of the Palestinians, the expansion of the west bank settlements, the refugee camps etc. etc. She allowed him to paint Israel as an exemplary example of Democracy. She was very very weak in her line of questioning on this issue. She also allowed Ledeen to call the WWII Holocaust as the only systematic genocide that has taken place. What would Ledeen call the genocides presently going on in Darfur. What would he call the genocides in Rwanda, Tibet, East Timor etc. etc. His attitude about genocide reflects his ethnic elitism in regard to the many genocides that have taken place on this planet in the last 60 years.

Unless Larisa digs deeper she is just repeating what is all ready known about Ledeen. Ledeens motto in regard to regime change in Iraq, Iran, Syria is "faster please". My mantra in regard to the press's coverage is "deeper and wider please".

Who is Michael Ledeen?

By William O. Beeman, Pacific News Service. Posted May 8, 2003.

From "creative destruction" to "total war," the guiding beliefs of the most aggressive foreign policymakers in the Bush administration may originate in the works of an influential yet rarely seen neoconservative.

Most Americans have never heard of Michael Ledeen, but if the United States ends up in an extended shooting war throughout the Middle East, it will be largely due to his inspiration.

A fellow at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, Ledeen holds a Ph.D. in History and Philosophy from the University of Wisconsin. He is a former employee of the Pentagon, the State Department and the National Security Council. As a consultant working with NSC head Robert McFarlane, he was involved in the transfer of arms to Iran during the Iran-Contra affair -- an adventure that he documented in the book "Perilous Statecraft: An Insider's Account of the Iran-Contra Affair." His most influential book is last year's "The War Against the Terror Masters: Why It Happened. Where We Are Now. How We'll Win."

Ledeen's ideas are repeated daily by such figures as Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz. His views virtually define the stark departure from American foreign policy philosophy that existed before the tragedy of Sept. 11, 2001. He basically believes that violence in the service of the spread of democracy is America's manifest destiny. Consequently, he has become the philosophical legitimator of the American occupation of Iraq.

Now Michael Ledeen is calling for regime change beyond Iraq. In an address entitled "Time to Focus on Iran -- The Mother of Modern Terrorism," for the policy forum of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA) on April 30, he declared, "the time for diplomacy is at an end; it is time for a free Iran, free Syria and free Lebanon."

With a group of other conservatives, Ledeen recently set up the Center for Democracy in Iran (CDI), an action group focusing on producing regime change in Iran.

Quotes from Ledeen's works reveal a peculiar set of beliefs about American attitudes toward violence. "Change -- above all violent change -- is the essence of human history," he proclaims in his book, "Machiavelli on Modern Leadership: Why Machiavelli's Iron Rules Are as Timely and Important Today as Five Centuries Ago." In an influential essay in the National Review Online he asserts, "Creative destruction is our middle name. We do it automatically ... it is time once again to export the democratic revolution."

Ledeen has become the driving philosophical force behind the neoconservative movement and the military actions it has spawned. His 1996 book, "Freedom Betrayed; How the United States Led a Global Democratic Revolution, Won the Cold War, and Walked Away," reveals the basic neoconservative obsession: the United States never "won" the Cold War; the Soviet Union collapsed of its own weight without a shot being fired. Had the United States truly won, democratic institutions would be sprouting everywhere the threat of Communism had been rife.

Iraq, Iran and Syria are the first and foremost nations where this should happen, according to Ledeen. The process by which this should be achieved is a violent one, termed "total war," a concept pioneered by the 19th century Prussian general, Karl von Clausewitz in his classic book "On War."

Ledeen's take on this idea is wedded to ideology. In summarizing his book "The War Against the Terror Masters" on the American Enterprise Institute Web site, he writes: "We wage total war because we fight in the name of an idea, and ideas either triumph or fail ... totally." In his reckoning, force is the only reliable strategy to enforce our ideology on our enemies. In the same summary he claims, drawing inspiration from Machiavelli: "We can lead by the force of high moral example ... [but] fear is much more reliable, and lasts longer. Once we show that we are capable of dealing out terrible punishment to our enemies, our power will be far greater."

Consequently, Ledeen has excoriated both the State Department and the United Nations for their preference for diplomatic solutions to conflict; and the CIA for equivocating on evidence that would condemn "America's enemies" and justify militant action.

DEN, you can wear THIS while having fun with your action figure!

"Creative destruction is our middle name. We do it automatically ... it is time once again to export the democratic revolution."
----- michael ledeen
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what he means is that it's just about time for our kids to be drafted. not his kids, not the ever productive bush twins, not the kerry gals or chelsea clinton, but OUR KIDS.

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'LOOSE CHANGE 2nd edition'

NIGER-GATE: THE SCANDAL BEHIND THE SCANDAL

In his January 28, 2003 State of the Union Speech, President Bush uttered 16 words that have since come back to haunt him. "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

Bush was quoting a statement by the British, "There is intelligence that Iraq has sought the supply of significant quantities of uranium from Africa. Iraq has no active civilian nuclear power programme or nuclear power plants and therefore has no legitimate reason to acquire uranium." This quotes came from a document issued by Number 10 Downing Street titled, "Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction: The assessment of the British Government". This document has since become more widely known as the "Dodgy Dossier" following exposure that it was written from plagiarized student thesis papers. In one case, information in the Dodgy Dossier was 12 years old, dating from before the UN sanctions on Iraq, hopelessly outdated and obsolete, but included because it portrayed Iraq as heavily armed with banned weapons. Prime Minister Tony Blair has since apologized for this document.

Bush made his claim about Iraq buying uranium from Niger even though former Ambassador Joe Wilson, who had a great many contacts in Niger, had traveled to that country in February of 2002 to verify the accusation and on his return had reported the claim to be without foundation. Following Bush's speech repeating the Niger claim that Wilson knew to be false, Wilson went public, writing an op-ed piece in the New York Times in July of 2003 that exposed the claim as deceptive. As part of a campaign to discredit Wilson and prevent him from further exposing the truth of the matter, Joe's wife, Valerie Plame was revealed as a CIA operative. Not only was Plame's career ruined, but the company she worked for, Brewster Jennings & Associates, was exposed as a CIA front. In one of the ironies of the scandal, Brewster Jennings & Associates' mission was to track nuclear weapons in other countries. Since compromised and shut down, this has left the United States without the means to track just who does and does not have nuclear weapons.

Originally, George Bush tried to dump the blame for the Niger claim on the CIA's George Tenet. The CIA then demanded an investigation into the outing of Plame. Then Attorney General John Ashcroft stalled for months, then handed the investigation to Patrick Fitzgerald.

However, months before Joe Wilson's article appeared, the International Atomic Energy Agency had examined the documents which had surfaced in Italy purporting to document the sale of uranium to Iraq and determined that they were forgeries, and indeed, very clumsy ones.

This is the scandal behind the scandal. The outing of Valerie Plame was not done out of revenge, or as the Washington Post reports, part of a feud between Karl Rove and the CIA. Joe Wilson's article started to focus attention on the fact that the documents used to claim that Iraq was buying uranium from Niger were fakes!

The fact that the Niger documents were fake is hard proof that the lies that tricked this nation into war were not an accident, not "misinterpreted" or "bad" intelligence, but deliberate falsehood with malice aforethought.We The People were lied to intentionally to trick us into supporting a war of conquest against an innocent nation that had done us no wrong.

Where did the forgeries come from? The documents had first surfaced in Italy, and in July, 2005 the Italian Parliament released a report naming four men as the likely forgers of the documents; Michael Ledeen, Dewey Clarridge, Ahmed Chalabi and Francis Brookes. Ahmed Chalabi is the former bank embezzler who was at one time expected to lead Iraq in the post-Saddam period. Of the remaining men, Michael Ledeen deserves special note. Shortly before the forged documents surfaced in Italy, Michael Ledeen paid a visit to the head of Italy's secret service, SISMI. Ledeen's entourage included Larry Franklin, since exposed as a spy for Israel operating in the Pentagon Office of Special Plans, an operational partner to the White House Iraq Group charged with "selling" the war in Iraq to the American people. Larry Franklin has confessed to handing classified information to AIPAC, the Israeli lobby. Presumably the information went from AIPAC to Israel. Less discussed is what disinformation flowed back from Israel through AIPAC, to Larry Franklin. What is known is that the claims regarding Iraq's weapons of mass destruction that came from the Office of Special Plans were as groundless as the claim that Iraq was buying uranium from Niger.

Larry Franklin is not alone in handing classified documents to Israel. Larry's boss at the DPB, Richard Perle, likewise was caught giving classified information to Israel in 1970. Yet another official caught handing America's secrets to Israel is Michael Ledeen himself, as a result of which he (briefly) lost his security clearance. Ledeen was hired by Douglas Feith to start up the Office of Special Plans. As a side note, it was Michael Ledeen who arranged Jonathan Pollard's job with the US Navy, which led to US Nuclear Deterrent Secrets being given to Israel, who in turn traded them to the Russians for increased emigration quotas.

The exploding Plame-gate scandal is more than just the illegal outing of a CIA agent and her associates. It is more than just the shutting down of Brewster Jennings & Associates, leaving the US without a means to track foreign nuclear weapons. It is more than the extent to which the people of the United States were lied to in order to trick them into a war. Running through every single aspect of this horrible mess are the clear traces of a foreign spy operation that has infiltrated the government of the United States to the highest levels and subverted the nation to the purposes of that foreign government.

As of this typing, the men who gave classified information to Israel are still in their positions. AIPAC, the Israeli lobby implicated in the spy scandal, still donates money to US politicians. US Politicians, more damning still, continue to take it.

The following actors in the Niger forgery imbroglio have Ties to JINSA , The Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs 1) Dick Cheney ,Vice-President of the United States 2) Michael Ledeen , former Pentagon consultant to Doug Feith , head of Office of Special Plans 3) Ahmed Chalabi ,former Head of Iraqi National Congress , deputy prime minister of Iraq 4) Major General Amos Gilad , head of Sharon's Office of Special Plans 5) Duane Claridge , JINSA member , military advisor to Iraqi National Congress 6) General Wayne Downing , JINSA , military advisor to Iraqi National Congress 7) John Bolton , UN Ambassador , touted forgeries in State Department "Fact Sheet" 8) Antonio Martino , JINSA defence minister of Italy 9) Michael Mason JINSA Assistant Director of FBI /Head of Washington Field Office.

Americans are the victims of the greatest and most deadly hoax in history; lied into a war of conquest. As we are Americans, and as we are at heart moral and just people, we cannot allow a single person who took part in that lie to remain in a position of authority or public trust, whether in government or in the media.

It is important to stress that the historical precedent mirrors exactly what the Halliburton camp deal outlines. Oliver North's Reagan era Rex 84 plan proposed rounding up 400,000 refugees, under FEMA, in the event of "uncontrolled population movements" over the Mexican border into the United States.

The real agenda, just as it is with Halliburton's gulags, was to use the cover of rounding up immigrants and illegal aliens as a smokescreen for targeting political dissidents. From 1967 to 1971 the FBI kept a list of persons to be rounded up as subversive, dubbed the "ADEX" list.

Halliburton, through their KBR subsidiary, is the same company that built most of the major new detention camps in Iraq and Afghanistan. KBR have been embroiled in a human sex slave trade that their representatives have lobbied to continue.

We have a company that has been handed a contract to build prison camps in America that is engaged in trafficking young girls and women. Can this horror movie get any more frightening?

The Poet Ezra Pound once said ~ The technique of infamy is to invent two lies, then get people arguing heatedly over which one of them is true.
This can be said of Every Issue in American Politics. The leaders put forth two acceptable ideas, and the tv propaganda dutifully repeats the fake debate 24/7 - all the while omitting the true alternative.
Iraq
Acceptable choices: Stay the course, or Redeploy
True Alternative: Bring Home the Troops

Health Care
Fake debate is about how many Americans have insurance
The true alternative is No Insurance period
Everyone is paying higher premiums while an insurance CEO takes $125 million salary - it's greedy rat-bastards like this that are the scourge of America.

The true alternative is returning to a not-for-profit Health Care system.
In the current system, the more Americans that have cancer, heart disease, diabetes, etc, the more money the corporations make- that's a bad equation- period.

Campaign-Finance Reform
Phony Politicians debate about soft-money vs hard-money limits
True Alternative: Free Air Time for all candidates on TV/Radio stations that use OUR Public Airwaves

The Drug War
No Choice- major politicians of both parties agree we must continue the drug war
True Alternative: End this War on the People
Bush's 'youthful indiscretions' got him zero jail time. Yet poor teenagers can get several years in prison for the same or lesser crimes. This double standard is disgusting. America became the worlds leading jailer under Clinton and Gore. Prisons for Profit also came into existence on their watch. Another bad equation- the more prisoners we have, the more money Wall St. makes.
Do you remember the vote on Prisons for Profit? There wasn't one. We The People never approved of this disgusting practice. Why do we pay $30,000/yr to lock up American Citizens, when their biggest crime is being poor. $6 x 40hr/wk x 52 weeks = $12,500/yr. Millions have no job, and tens of millions more make close to min. wage- yet we'll pay corporations more than twice that to lock them away.

and on and on...
What America needs is people with common sense, people that recognize it's time to abandon the norm, because that's how we got into this mess.
America needs people like Howard Zinn, Mark Crispin Miller, and YOU to run for Congress.
ps- How could I forget the Big Lie that most of America supports Bush, that's why they 'elected' him in 2004. And the Big Lie that it takes millions of dollars to run for Congress. That's a Lie. 50% of Americans don't bother to vote because they're not given a true choice. If We ran for congress, and gave the People a true choice, we could win- even without big $$ donors.
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AMEN!

From WRH

Study: Few Americans know 1st Amendment
Americans apparently know more about "The Simpsons" than they do about the First Amendment.
Only one in four Americans can name more than one of the five freedoms guaranteed by the First Amendment (freedom of speech, religion, press, assembly and petition for redress of grievances.) But more than half can name at least two members of the cartoon family, according to a survey.
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Are we dumb enough yet?

James, I refuse to be frightened. Fear only happens if you let it. Gulags Schmoolags.

Don't be afraid, just aware. Panicing is as bad as being a naive sheep.

Ignoring the warning signs

There was one respect in which the highest level officials we count upon to keep us safe moved swiftly and decisively, almost in unison. After the bipartisan firestorm of concerns about the Dubai port deal erupted, Bush, Vice President Cheney, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, and Treasury Secretary John Snow (chairman of the inter-cabinet committee that approved the deal) rushed to assure us that it wasn't their fault because they didn't know about the deal until it was done. They blamed it on a sub-cabinet junior varsity that blithely okayed the deal without telling any of their bosses, without even a 45 day review of it, because no one objected.

Of course, this was followed by reports that Homeland Security underlings had raised some concerns, and so did the Coast Guard, warning that "many intelligence gaps" made it impossible to assure that terrorists couldn't gain from a Dubai-run port. Gaps created, no doubt, by intelligence such as Document AFGP-2002-603856.

Bush, after assuring us this was so unimportant it didn't require his attention, then said it was so important he would veto any congressional effort to halt it. Never mind that he'd never vetoed anything before.

For once, the president may have temporarily unified Washington. At the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue, you can hear the sound of Democratic and Republican minds boggling in bipartisan unison. His administration's best defense comes down to a plea that Team Bush isn't guilty of willful negligence after all _ just willful ignorance.

Can you imagine the down-and-dirty attack campaign that Karl Rove would be masterminding right now if all the above had been done not by his boss, but by a Democratic president?

Ignoring the warning signs

*****end of clip*****

Bad intelligence, never saw it coming, nobody told us, we forgot - These slugs are sounding more professional by the day. UGH!

capt

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Tucker Carlson and his little bowtie needs to go to Fox news where he belongs.

Since Fox is the only place you can get the truth, and Tucker speaks the truth, Corky, you are finally correct. Tucker should go to Fox, where truth is ALWAYS told, unlike MSNBC, CNN & ABC, where lies rule the day/week/month/year/decade.

87 Saladin
From: TVNewsLies

Who the F@#K is Safer Without Saddam?

Certainly not all the people in the mass graves, Saddam murdered. Oh yeah sure .... the rest of the world is, but not Saddam's genocide victims.

Poor Saddam. America is the real bad guy in the world today.

We actually take pictures of our prisoners in their underwear. Can you believe that kind of inhumane torture?

There was a great deal of reporting that Ledeen has been Roves brain on the middle east. That Ledeen played a major role in making contacts for false information in regard to Wmd's in Iraq. He continues to push for military action in Iran and Syria. I think Larisa's article allows Ledeen to lay out the ground work/doublespeak for attempting to squeeze out of the part he played in the run up to the pre-emptive invasion of Iraq. There is word that Fitzgerald and McNulty (the Aipac/Rosen trial coming up in April) has Ledeen in their sites. Unless she digs deeper and wider in these next articles with Ledeen on his part in the run up to the war and in his allegiance to Israel before his allegiance to the U.s., she is just repeating what reporters and writers have all ready covered about Ledeen. (Justin Raimando at anti-war.com, Jason Leopold , Jason Vest Have all ready told us what she is reporting) Ledeen is one of the masters of "doublespeak". When he says "punish all the guilty parties whoever they are, and do everything posssible to prevent anything of the sort happening again." teleharger teleharger teleharger teleharger teleharger teleharger teleharger teleharger teleharger teleharger teleharger telechargement telechargement telechargement telechargement telechargement telechargement telechargement telechargement winzip winrar winmx winamp vlc spybot shareaza real player limewire icq firefox edonkey download download download clone clone ares adaware acrobat gratuite gratuite gratuite gratuite gratuite gratuite gratuite gratuite logiciels logiciels logiciels logiciels logiciels logiciels logiciels logiciels telechargement nero telechargement kazaa telechargement emule telechargement antivirus telechargement divx telechargement messenger telechargement msn telechargement mp3 telechargement chanson telechargement musique telechargement parole telechargement music telechargement logiciel divx divx divx divx divx divx gratuite gratuite gratuit gratuit gratuit gratuit gratuit gratuit gratuit telechargement gratuit gratuit gratuit gratuit

In fact, who needs the truth.