Sounds like David can't prove Cheney has the authority or not to declassify the material. Still, David tries to lean everyone in the direction that he doesn't. Such slander!!

I thought Hillary was a lesbo?

David can't stand the fact that Karl Rove has outwitted the left once again. The interview was planned to release the info that Cheney did have this authority to set up the defense of Scooter Libby. Brilliant!! And David fell for it.

#1 "Still, David tries to lean everyone..."

"to lean" is a transitive verb?

Poor Jester David

He no longer can keep the masses entertained.

#2 "The interview was planned to release the info that Cheney did have this authority.."

Yes! And the gunshot wound was acceptable collateral damage. Brilliant.

#4 "...no longer can keep the masses entertained"
if not the massess then the asses

Small Penis

Its called taking one for the team. A man with a small penis wouldn't understand such manly values.

You have experience taking a small penis for the team?

Jeez Louise, have teenagers mutinied the Corn blog?

Hmmmm, I see a number of inflammatory statements in the above comments, but little content. Poor David can no longer entertain the masses. What exactly does this mean, and how does it contribute to the discussion? Yes, Mr. Corn does have a political agenda. I have a political agenda. Anyone who says they don't have a political agenda definitely has a political agenda. I wonder, do these comments come from Rove's spin teams, or perhaps from dull, specious reasoners? Is there a difference? Do I care? Nope.

This article is not at all without merit. Should we dismiss his work because he does not reach a conclusion? I say no. Asking questions is a responsible, effective form of inquiry. It is those who are quick with their answers whom I doubt.

The above commentors might consider whether they are towing the line or adding to a discussion. Also, this penis-talk is just juvenile.

Zedmaster 3.75

Division-Zero.Net

Saladin

I'm sorry sally, everytime I try not stoop to the cornnut level, you all seem to drag me back into it.

David, cheney does what he damn well pleases. That's his M.O.

The secrecy cloaking cheney's activities is endemic to his way of doing business. He has his own power center, separate from bush's circle of toadies. He makes his own policies as he goes along. Fuck 'em, if they don't like it, he snarls. He is the de facto president afterall.

cheney's inner circle has, or course, changed in recent months with Scooter Libby's indictment and the departure of his chief communications guy, Steve Schmidt (who left to help out Arnold Schwarzenegger on his reelection plans).

cheney has said he will not run for political office again. That is another fabrication (lie) -- he intends to remain in the Oval Office for as long as his ticker holds out. Come hell or high water, cheney will be the next president.

You All? LBH, leave me out of your lunatic statements. I would never stoop to the juvenile behavior you blame others for dragging you into.

Hugh Hewiit baits Helen Thomas in Radio Interview:
What a Dick. MP3

HT: I worked for United Press International for more than fifty years, and I wrote straight copy. I was never, never accused of bias.
HH: BUT YOU DID...

HT: I did not bow out of the human race. I permitted myself to care, to believe, to think. But I assure you, I assure you that it did not get in my copy. And can you say the same thing?

HH: BUT HELEN, I'M SAYING. YOU DID VOTE ALL THOSE YEARS, DIDN'T YOU?
HT: No, but you're bias has come through. You're not asking legitimate questions.

HH: WHY AM I...
HT: You are baiting people.

HH: WHY IS THIS NOT LEGITIMATE?
HT: Why don't you...why don't you try to find out what is really going on in this world?

HH: WHY ISN'T IT LEGITIMATE TO KNOW WHO YOU VOTE FOR?
HT: (laughing) Pardon me?

HH: WHY ISN'T IT LEGITIMATE TO KNOW WHO A LONG TIME WHITE HOUSE REPORTER HAS VOTED FOR...
HT: It's none of your business, because it has nothing to do with my copy and my work, and you've called me because I'm a journalist.

HH: BUT WOULDN'T IT BE SIGNIFICANT IF YOU WERE IN FACT A CARD-CARRYING, LONG TIME DEMOCRATIC...
HT: No, it would not. I told you that I wrote straight copy for more than fifty years until I became a columnist.

HH: AND...BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND THAT CAN BE PERFECTLY TRUE...

There's a good article by Steve Clemons on Cheney's "power" to declassify information at The Washington Note.

Let's put it bluntly: the powermongers in the Bush administration just make up shit as they go along. In other words, if something is illegal, they will simply say "Psych! We decided it's legal!" and go on about their day. When is Congress going to put an end to their emasculation?

"the dire nuclear threat posed by Iran." Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this EXACTLY the same kind of "mushroom cloud" hype that led up to the war in Iraq? Where is the proof? Do they even have a Curveball to drag out of the closet for display? Is half of this country really OK with nuking a civilian population based on the same scenario that we got last time?

Saladin

So you have a selective memory, that's OK, I'll forgive ya!!

Mr. David Corn,

Good post! King Cheney and his court jester monkey-boy need to be impeached. I know you think that is not the right thing to do but it is.

If given a choice would you prefer non-stop war[sic] or present a challenge to a few GOPhers to join with someone, anyone standing up against these dictator fascists that do not care one lick for the country or the constitution?

You say "concentrate on winning elections" because you think this group of liars and thieves are above stealing elections? (that is just plain silly)

Do you really believe in your heart of hearts that 911 was just a coincidence or part of a larger problem, that the invasion of Iraq was also just a little white lie to start a war to spread peace and freedom?

The gang that cannot shoot straight and are immune to the truth or consequences are even capable of being honest about anything?

Thanks for all of your work and the open forum.

Kirk

LBH: "the fact that Karl Rove has outwitted the left once again . . . the defense of Scooter Libby. Brilliant!! . . ."

It's uncanny how much you busheviks sound like something from N. Korean radio. Will you also weep in the streets when your Great Leaders are jailed?

Hold Bush Accountable: Demand a Special Prosecutor to Investigate the White House

keyboard activism from People For the American Way

Drewp #19

My comment was tongue in cheek to illustrate the complete lunacy of the cornnut thought process. I am sorry you are so slow that you can't get this. You maybe too late for help my friend.

Saladin

France is saying that Iran has nukes, are they making it up to go to war?

Hold Bush Accountable: Demand a Special Prosecutor to Investigate the White House

The Bush Administration’≥ stampede over constitutional checks and balances puts our nation in grave danger. Unless President Bush and his administration are held to account for actions that legal scholars and millions of Americans consider crimes, the governing principles that support our republic will erode like sand.

That is why People For the American Way is launching an ongoing campaign to defend the integrity of our government against President Bush’≥ abuse of power. Over the coming months we will foster public vigilance to demand transparency, accountability and oversight. And it starts with a bang: calling for a special prosecutor to investigate White House wiretapping.

If you want to see a special prosecutor demand answers to questions the public has a right to know, get the ball rolling by signing this petition and spreading it as far and wide as possible. We’¨l even send copies to your members in the House and Senate so they know what kind of pressure is coming from their state.

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A little assist for #20!

Thanks Alan!

capt

Boyd

Helen Thomas needed to retire when she was at the top of her game like Jerome Bettis did. She could have saved her self respect instead of looking like the crazy old lady that asks stupid questions and why is she still here anyway? Sam Donaldson knew when to quit.

Capt

Who's to pay for all these crazy investigations you keep demanding? I thought you were for deficit reduction?

Has anyone noticed that Chaney even lied in his interview? He says he shot the man on the right side of his body and face, but all reports says he was shot on the left side. Which is it? Wouldn't it be funny that he can't even get an event in which he was the intregal part right? I quess when you are a compulsive liar, you'll lie aboput anything.

Who Will Blow the Whistle Before We Attack Iran?

A BUZZFLASH GUEST CONTRIBUTION
by Ray McGovern

The question looms large against the backdrop of the hearing on whistle blowing scheduled for the afternoon of Feb. 14 by Christopher Shays, chair of the House Subcommittee on National Security, Emerging Threats and International Relations. Among those testifying are Russell Tice, one of the sources who exposed illegal eavesdropping by the National Security Agency, and Army Sgt. Sam Provance, who told his superiors of the torture he witnessed at Abu Graib, got no satisfaction, and felt it his duty to go public. It will not be your usual hearing.

I had the privilege of being present at the creation of the international Truth-Telling Coalition on Sept. 9, 2004 and of working with Daniel Ellsberg in drafting the coalition’s Appeal to Current Government Officials to put loyalty to the Constitution above career and to expose dishonesty leading to misadventures like the wars in Vietnam and Iraq. Whether or not encouragement from the Coalition played any role in subsequent disclosures, we are grateful for those responsible for the recent hemorrhaging of important information—from the “Downing Street Minutes” showing that by summer 2002 the Bush administration had decided to “fix” intelligence to “justify” war on Iraq, to disclosures regarding CIA kidnappings, secret prisons, and state-sponsored torture.

As former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, who leads the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition, keeps reminding us, “Information is the oxygen of democracy.” And with this administration’s fetish for secrecy and our somnolent Fourth Estate, we would likely all suffocate without patriotic truth-tellers (aka whistleblowers)....

Next Challenge: Iran

Anyone who has been near a TV in recent weeks has heard the drumbeat for war on Iran. The best guess for timing is next month.

Let’s see if we cannot do better this time than we did on Iraq. Patriotic truth tellers, we need you! In an interview last year with US News and World Report, Republican Senator Chuck Hagel said that on Iraq, “The White House is completely disconnected from reality...It’s like they’re just making it up as they go along.”

Ditto for an adventure against Iran. But the juggernaut has begun to roll; the White House/FOX News/Washington Times spin machine is at full tilt. This is where whistleblowers come in.
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Good read, and right on. It's really scary - we are well on our way toward WWIII - Read the whole thing. He is calling out to anyone that is in a position to know to expose the lies before it's too late.

To the Department of Justice:

Due to credible charges of violations of federal law regarding the warrantless electronic surveillance of Americans authorized by the President and carried out by agencies under his control – and because of the inescapable conflicts of interest that would arise in any Justice Department investigation of these activities – I call on Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the actions of Executive Branch officials involved in authorizing and carrying out such surveillance.

Possible violations of law have yet to be resolved through independent legal review and prosecution. Only a special prosecutor can independently evaluate the legality of the Executive Branch actions in question, bring criminal charges as appropriate, and uphold the critical principle of government accountability.

Sincerely,

capt

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Done and done! I LOVE that keyboard activism.

Thanks again Alan,

capt

Here's that page where you can pick which version of the tv show documentary with unreleased Abu Ghraib pictures.

new Abu Ghraib torture photos from Aus. TV report

David,

The claim that Cheney is really the one in charge is supported by his decision not to discuss the shooting with puppet George right away - why should he? Cheney's the real President (King).

Your post today supports that even further...

"Remarkably, the phrase "and, in the performance of executive duties, the Vice President," which dramatically elevates the Vice President's classification authority to that of the President, was added to the executive order in 2003."

That pretty much tells it all.

Scott Ritter the former Iaea inspector, the former Cia analyst Ray McGovern, and Justin Raimando at antiwar.com have been attempting to turn the spotlight on the Bush administrations march towards sanctions or military action against Iran for 3 years.

As Scott Ritter has said the MSM and most of the so called "alternative" press have been "sleepwalking" the nation into the web that the Bush administration has continually spun about Iran ever since the pre-emptive invasion of Iraq. I have not heard one U.s. reporter,not one(and I am a news junkie) ask the Bush administration the simple question "where is the verifiable evidence to support the endless claims that they continually make about Iran's nuclear development?"

Is that such a radical question?

Where is the evidence (the laptop and the documents) that they say indicate AQ Khan's involvement in Iran from a cousin of "Curveball" or are Micheal Ledeens "creative destruction" prints on the documents. Are the "noble lie" folks who "cakwalked" us into Iraq involved with any of this evidence?

At the beginning of March Iaea Mr. El Baradei presents a report about Iran and whether they are in violation of the Iaea agreements. If there is any question at all about Iran even a hint, a loophole (and there will be) for John Bolton to slip through, he will.

From what I have read the neo-cons representative to the UN John Bolton has all ready set up a way to trump the IAEA's procedures and procede with sanctions against Iran if Russia and China do not vote with the U.s.to implement sanctions against Iran.

THE MSM AND MOST IN THE SO CALLED "ALTERNATIVE' PRESS ARE SLEEP WALKING THE NATION INTO TAKING MILITARY ACTION AGAINST IRAN.

DEJA VU....THE REGIME CHANGE AGENDA OF THE PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY SEEMS TO BE MOVING FORWARD ALMOST RIGHT ON TIME....

;THE AIPAC CONFERENCE AT THE BEGINNING OF MARCH WILL BE FOCUSED ON IRAN AND WILL PUSH THIS ADMINISTRATION AND OUR NATION HARD ...TOWARDS MILITARY ACTION IN IRAN.

Congress cannot allow the Bush Administration to go to war with Iran. Besides the more common reasons against attacking Iran, here's another to consider...

They cannot be trusted to plan their way out of a paper bag without screwing it up, let alone conducting yet another war that could further erode this coutry's standing as a world leader - and let's not forget the further cost to lives - on both sides.

And who would fight this war? Does anyone feel a draft?

PDA to Help Lead Truth & Accountability Impeachment Charge!

To our Progressive Friends:

PDA grassroots activists from across the country are challenging PDA to step up and help lead the call for the impeachment of George W. Bush. We’ve heard you and we’re taking action!
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K, I'm watching the Abu Ghraib torture tv program now. It took alot longer to DL that it did last night. Guess more ppl are watching it.

I can't believe LBH has the nerve to show up here after that humiliation he took on the saddam tapes.
*shakes head*
That he has no shame doesn't surprise me though.

So far, all this is asking for is contributions. They're going after DINOs. yay!
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Dear MoveOn member,

Earlier this week 84% of us agreed we should challenge some right-wing incumbent Democrats in primary elections. Now, we're announcing our first MoveOn-member endorsement in a primary.

Ciro Rodriguez is running for Congress in the 28th District in Texas. Rodriguez opposed the war in Iraq and has championed health care, education and veteran benefits. In the words of Marta from San Antonio, "Rodriguez is a true Democrat and would stand up to the Bush administration in Washington."

But Rodriguez is up against an incumbent—Henry Cuellar—who consistently voted against Democrats on important issues and literally campaigned for Bush in 2000. With a sprint to the March 7th finish we can put Rodriguez over the top with our support.

Blackhawk Gone: Why wasn't Whittington airlifted?

Here's just one more unanswered question about Dick Cheney's shooting of his 78-year-old friend last Saturday.

Numerous news accounts in recent years suggest that the vice president, with his history of four heart attacks, is almost always accompanied by a medical team and by Blackhawk helicopters, even when he is hunting in remote rural locations, as he all too frequently does.

Cheney has apparently never needed that type of medical evacuation. But on Saturday, his hunting pal Harry Whittington did. Indeed, news accounts say that Cheney's full-time medical team was on the scene and aided the seriously wounded man.

But where were the Blackhawks? If they were on the Armstrong Ranch, why were they not used for this type of emergency operation that they had long rehearsed? If the Blackhawks were not there, why not, considering they've reportedly been there for his other trips?

More Here

BUSH PROPOSES ‘NO QUAILS LEFT BEHIND’

New Education Initiative for Hunters Attempts to Defuse Cheney Crisis With Vice President Dick Cheney’s accidental shooting of a fellow bird hunter last Saturday threatening to become a full-blown crisis, President George W. Bush today attempted to defuse the controversy by proposing a new education program for hunters called "No Quails Left Behind."

Speaking at the White House, President Bush said that Mr. Cheney had done the nation "a big favor" by demonstrating that a massive overhaul of the nation’s educational system for hunters was "long overdue."

"We have been sitting idly by while other nations, such as China and Japan, have outpaced us in hunter education," Mr. Bush said. "If it took Dick Cheney to shoot a guy in the face to serve as a wake-up call, we all owe him a debt of thanks."

The vice president himself appeared ready to start repairing the P.R. damage caused by his hunting mishap, telling reporters this afternoon that after obtaining five deferments during the Vietnam War he was finally ready to take up military service for his country.

"I have a gun and I’ve demonstrated that I’m not afraid to use it," Mr. Cheney said. "The President of Iran should watch what he does if he doesn’t want to be peppered with pellets."

Asked about Mr. Cheney’s implied threat, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said he was "unworried," adding, "If Cheney tried to shoot me he’d probably wind up hitting the President of Iraq."

Elsewhere, actors Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes "have never been more in love and are definitely not splitting up," according to the couple’s official spokesman, James Frey.

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I knew this was coming.

capt

Idealism v Realism

Dear Cornposters:

I have been trying to cutback on my posts for sometime but idealism seems to always preempt realism. Maybe my posts can make a difference? The truth of the matter is that Nazi America has entered the abyss of hell and there is no escaping the abyss. Hatred is so deep and widespread that only a conversion of the heart can help save Nazi America. Yet, there is the idea in Nazi America that murder is a respectable practice. Murder is not only a respectable practice but it is also a virtue. Nazi Americans who murder are respectable and virtuous persons. In fact murderers are glorified in Nazi America.

Idealism enters the teenage years. Maybe that is why teenagers are so complicated in their behaviors. They are into fairness and idealism not just for themselves but also for their friends and other people. From the teenage years we enter adulthood and that is where realism is to take hold. We are living in a real world and life is not fair or idealistic. I never made the transition from idealism to realism. Hopefully, at age 66 the transition is made but it does not make me happy because I see a failed and evil Nazi America.

Along with the fact that idealism is so difficult to shake from my life is the stress factor. Human beings need less stress in their lives. Posting less would mean less stress for me. Yet, in viewing the world and reading the many articles I am aware of how much work is needed to make Nazi America and the world a better place. But, why should a person beat their head against the brick wall? The deep-rooted hatred that consumes Nazi American lives will never ease or leave in my lifetime.

Another factor that wants me to post less is my energy level. There are days that I make me feel my energy is zapped. Plus, I do not seem to have the same piss and vinegar that I once had. I am also aware that Nazi American elections are rigged and you can never defeat the Nazis in power. How does a person fight so many evil Nazi Americans? The majority of Nazi Americans voted for evil in their lives and they are now bushians. Bushianity is their religion. Bushianity seems to thrive and receive unlimited and renewed energy from hatred, murders, torture, wars corruption, greed, decadence, and lies. The evil and vile Nazi Americans seem to have sucked out all the energy from me.

I will try to post but a renewal in love, faith, worship, prayer, mercy, and inclusion in Nazi America is forever a lost cause and deeds to promote the common good and humanitarian interests will never return to Nazi America.

Sincerely,

Gerald

Why Cheney’≥ Speaking Up Doesn’¥ Clear Things Up

by Tony Peyser

To guarantee no one
Would throw any rocks
Dick made sure to give
His interview to Fox.

And then to add only
More shuck to this jive
He went on TV but
His chat wasn’¥ live.

Dick must think that he's
Rewritten this bad plot
But he's still a punch line
And mocked as bad shot.

k, i'm glad I watched the low-resolution film. I don't care to see some of those bloody scenes in more detail.
I'm sorry if I sound melodramatic, but honestly, seeing what American soldiers did to other human beings makes me ashamed. Noone could do this stuff without approval from above, and that chain goes all the way to the top. Bush's fkn "signing statement" to the McCain torture bill is proof enough, that he wants to continue. Move prisoners to other secret prisons in other contries so as not to be caught this time.
IMPEACH NOW !

Bush Satisfied With Cheney's Account

President Bush Satisfied With Vice President Cheney's Account of Hunting Accident

WASHINGTON Feb 16, 2006 (AP)— President Bush is satisfied with Vice President Dick Cheney's account of his Texas hunting accident, a White House spokesman said Thursday, and Texas authorities said they had closed their investigation into the accident without filing any charges.

The Kenedy County Sheriff's Department released its report from Chief Deputy Gilberto San Miguel Jr., which said he interviewed Cheney the morning after Saturday's accident. Cheney explained that he did not see hunting companion Harry Whittington come up behind him and accidentally sprayed him with birdshot in the face and upper body while aiming at a quail, the report said.

Cheney told the story publicly Wednesday in an interview with Fox News Channel his only public statement on the accident that occurred Saturday on a private Texas ranch.

More HERE

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Well, done deal then. The only opinion that matters is satisfied. Of course this is the same guy that started a war because me was satisfied that Curveball was a "solid" source of information.

A not so thinly veiled message to the faithful supporters (if there are any left)

capt

France says so eh? Since when does bushco give a shit what France thinks? Are french fries back on the menu at the WH? What a gullible little bushbot, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, I'm a big f**king idiot! LBH

The Puppet Finally Speaks...

What some confuse as "outwitting"...looks like stoooopidity to thinking people...

Bush Says Cheney Handled Issue 'Just Fine'

By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer

Thursday, February 16, 2006

(02-16) 13:55 PST WASHINGTON, (AP) --

President Bush said Thursday he was satisfied with Vice President Dick Cheney's explanation about his shooting accident in Texas.

"I thought the vice president handled the issue just fine," the president said in his first public comments on Saturday's accident. "I thought his explanation yesterday was a powerful explanation."

Bush said it was "a deeply traumatic moment for him and obviously it was a tragic moment for Harry Whittington." He said that the shooting "profoundly affected the vice president."

Bush said Democrats are drawing "the wrong conclusion about a tragic accident" when they say it depicts the White House as overly secretive.

"Yesterday when he was here in the Oval Office I saw the deep concern he (Cheney) had about a person who he wounded," Bush said. "I thought yesterday's explanation was a very strong and important explanation to make to the American people."

Bush said Whittington, the 78-year-old attorney shot by Cheney in the face, chest and neck, is "a fine man" whom he knew from his days as governor of Texas. "He's been involved in our state's politics for a long period of time. My concern is for Harry and I know the vice president feels the same way."

While some White House officials were unhappy about the vice president's handling of the accident, Bush did not publicly object to Cheney's decision not to make the shooting public until Sunday, the day after it happened. The president also did not express concern about the fact that Cheney did not speak to him about the accident until they saw each other on Monday.

Bush recounted Cheney's explanation of the accident. "He heard a bird flush and he turned and pulled the trigger and saw his friend get wounded," the president said.

Bush, during an Oval Office photo opportunity, seemed upset when pressed about whether he was satisfied that Cheney had disclosed the shooting in a timely way.

"I'm satisfied with the explanation he gave," Bush said tersely.

"I thought his explanation yesterday was a very strong and powerful explanation and I'm satisfied with the explanation he gave," the president said.

QUESTION QUESTION QUESTION

How does "the cabal" intend to extend its control over the Executive Branch (and thus the government, given the castrated state of Congress) into the next Administration???

Or does it all just disappear on 20 January 2009?

A sincere question.

Bob in North Dakota

Here's an unlikely answer.....Hillary is the choice to continue the cabal. Ever notice how chummy she and Bill are getting with Bush, Sr.?? Ever notice how she has been talking more pro-war than most Senate Republicans?? Notice her tough talk on Iran?? If there is truly a secret "cabal" in charge of our government, don't be surprised if they don't have some major tentacles into Hillary's inner circle.

Hillary is a traitor. When will we ever be free of these psychos? That's a sincere question!

Did y'all get the drift that bush is "satisfied with the explanation" -- or do ya think he should have explained his explanation one more time, just so we understood the explanation?

What an idiot!

Media reports that said Whittington was hit on his right side, and now an official report showing him hit on his left. I wish someone would square that with the puplc. In the meantime, I jumped the H-town Chronicle again today for publishing another diagram that made no sense. I'll share wif ya the letter I sent, but I doubt if they will publish it tomorrow or the next day.
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Viewpoints,
I have to take issue with your article in today's (Thursday) paper. The illustration given cannot be correct. All reports I've seen state that Mr. Whittington was hit on his right side, not the left as your diagram shows. That's two days in a row where the illustrations in your articles made no sense. In Wednesday's paper, the diagram showed a shaded 'shot cone' spreading out about 30-feet inside of 30 yards in order to 'pepper' Mr. Whittington. That's impossible. To be hit with a hundred or more pellets, it would have to be almost a direct aim at the victim. Indeed, shotguns are tested for their pattern drawn around a 30-inch circle from 30 yards. The great majority of the pellets are in that small circle. Also, a typical 28-gauge shell propells 3/4 of an ounce of shot, and with shot size 7½, that's roughly 262 pellets in each shell (7½ shot has 350 pellets to the ounce). I've seen some reports that said Mr. Whittington had as many as 200 pellet hits, so that's more evidence of a direct hit. I think you do your readers a disservice by publishing 'mistakes' like that. Instead, you should be asking the hard questions, like how Mr. Cheney can decide to who and when he can report when he's shot someone. Can common people delay reporting accidents like that?? No, I don't think so, and neither do you, I'm sure. The sheriff's deputies were denied entrance to the ranch and not allowed to interview the vice-president when the accident happened, which brings to mind his 'condition' at the time. Noone else can pick and choose when is the best time to report a shooting, and this just shows another example of this administration thinking our laws don't apply to them. THAT'S what your articles should be pointing out.
(all emphases were in the original)

Cheney: George, you need to tell the public that you are satisfied with my explaination on how I shot Whittington.

Bush: But you should have told me first Dick. I'm supposed to be the President. I should know what is going on.

Cheney: Just do what say. You wouldn't be the President if it weren't for me.

Bush: OK, Dick. You're right Dick. Whatever you say Dick.

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Yeah, like it really matters that puppet George is satisfied with Dickhead's explanation. He has to be.

Looking like Syria might be in possesion of WMD.....from Iraq. Hmmm. More here Sneaky weasles indeed! if its true.

Saladin,

I agree. The worst thing that could happen in '08 is for Hilary to get nominated.

Fiengold for President!

But where were the Blackhawks?

I'm catching up on the reading. About this article... sheeee-it, they couldn't use them because word would get out. Has nothing to do with keeping them unused in case Chain-ee had a heart attack because of what he had done... no chance of that, because it didn't bother that nazi a bit. If the vice's medical detail flew the victim, that would be big news... news that doctors/nurses/staff would've known and told the world. This way, it's just another ambulance from who knows where. Just another hurt person in a long list.

If you want the truth from a pathological LIAR the opposite of what they say is true. Like for example Left side vs right side of Wittington. chainy sez Left, well guess what? Chainy sez 30 yards, more like 3 yards. Pants-R-Blazing, nose is growing!

Even Matthews is saying that once again it looks like the Cheney is calling the shots,not Bush (As in 9-11 and Cheney making the decision to shoot down the plane(.

If nothing else, the significance of this whole shooting incident is that it is helping to expose just how much Cheney does control things at the White House.

I say impeach Cheney first.

50 - Alan,

Yeah, that is what I was thinking. It is pretty pathetic. They sent him to this small-time hospital to avoid detection too. That put this guy's life at risk. What if he had died? I say Cheney would have been guilty of reckless manslaughter or something like that.

They would do anything to try to protect their behinds. They already have!

Pants-R-Blazing, nose is growing!

hahaha

They sent him to this small-time hospital to avoid detection too.

Yeah They're still trying to decide how to keep this undercover. "Let's see if this will blow over". Makes you wonder about the consious of the dick's medical team too. Think they are feeling bad about not doing the best they could for this patient? Makes me wonder about all fkn doctors, ya know? What's the most convenient treatment for a patient, not what's the best care. What about your oath, no-doctorin' apologist azz-kisser to Chain-ee mutha fkrz!
I needa schmoke something cause I'm pist!

"Administration's Tin Ear on the Middle East is Making America Less Safe" Opening Statement of Senator Barbara Boxer Senate Foreign Relations Committee Hearing February 15, 2006................................... Madam Secretary, the President said during his State of the Union address that we are winning in Iraq and he is confident in his plan for victory. Unfortunately, the American people don't share this confidence. A recent NBC/Wall Street Journal poll conducted January 26th through the 29th shows that a majority of Americans -- 52 percent -- believe the President has failed to give good reasons why the U.S. must keep troops in Iraq. Similarly, 53 percent of Americans are less confident that Iraq will come to a successful conclusion. They don't share this confidence because they see what is happening on the ground. They see brave men like ABC's Bob Woodruff and his cameraman seriously injured while trying to record on, quote, "the good news coming out of Iraq," unquote. They see Jill Carroll of the Christian Science Monitor, a young woman who went to Iraq to tell the story of the Iraqi people, kidnapped and begging for her life -- and we pray for her safe return. And, of course, the deaths and the injuries keep climbing -- up to 19,000 Americans either dead or wounded. This Administration's rosy scenarios like the Vice President's statement that the insurgency was in the last throes, your statement in '05 that the insurgency has been dealt several blows, just don't match realities on the ground. The number of attacks against coalition troops, Iraqi security forces and civilians increased by 29 percent last year. Let me give you specifics: Insurgents launched 34,000 plus attacks in 2005, an increase of 8,000 from 2004. Last year, the number of car bombs more than doubled from 420 to 873. The number of suicide car bombs went from 133 to 411. 67 attackers wore suicide vests last year, up from seven in 2004. Roadside bombs increased from 5,000-plus to 10,000-plus. Last week, a chart appeared in the New York Times depicting the extent of casualties just in one month. And I just want you to see this, because sometimes we don't recognize what's going on there. More than 800 people were killed as a result of the insurgency. And what do the Iraqi people think of all this: 64 percent of Iraqis believe that crime and violent attacks will decrease when the United States redeploys out of Iraq. Perhaps more important, 73 percent of Iraqis believe there will be greater cooperation among Iraq's political factions when the United States redeploys. So I say to you, if we're in Iraq to help the Iraqi people, then we ought to start listening to the Iraqi people and start a redeployment. Now success in Iraq also depends greatly on the ability of our forces to better secure Iraq's oil infrastructure. Paul Wolfowitz told Congress in 2003, "We're dealing with a country that can finance its own reconstruction with oil, and relatively soon." That was another rosy scenario. The reality is Iraq's oil production has dropped from pre-war levels. And I want to show you a headline from the New York Times a little more than a week ago: "Oil graft fuels the insurgency." The Iraqi finance minister has estimated that insurgents receive 40 percent to 50 percent of all oil smuggling profits in the country. So not only is the oil not financing the reconstruction, it is financing the insurgency that is killing American troops. Our main reason for going to Iraq was to get rid of the WMDs, or, as you said, not to wait for the smoking gun to become the mushroom cloud. That was a farce. And the truth is coming out. The CIA intelligence officer in charge of the Middle East intelligence from 2000 to 2005 wrote, quote, "Intelligence was misused publicly to justify decisions already made." Our standing in the world is low according to the Pew Research Center, and the American people know it. Two-thirds of Americans say there is less international respect for the U.S. than in the past. And when asked why, a strong majority, seven in 10 Americans, cite the war in Iraq. The war in Iraq is bringing our standing down in the world. American people are smart. Now you have cited elections in the Middle East as a sign that,"The neighborhood is changing." But is the neighborhood changing for the better? It doesn't appear so. You have admitted to being blindsided by the Hamas victory -- saying, "I've asked why nobody saw it coming. It does say something about us not having a good pulse." And I do appreciate your candor there. But this has become a pattern. This Administration was shocked by Hamas, shocked by the election of the Iranian leader, shocked that Iraqis voted for conservative religious parties with ties to Iran instead of secular candidates like Ahmed Chalabi, whose party got not one single vote in the Iraqi parliament. I remember when he sat behind the First Lady in 2004 at the State of the Union address. This Administration seems to have a tin ear when it comes to the Middle East, and that tin ear is making us less safe...............Long post but at least SOMEONE is trying to make things better

DEN,
You posted the Syria thing again. Are you saying bushco found another "curveball"?
We knew that was coming, right? They've gotten it out of order tho, because we're targeting Iran first. We need a Persian Curveball! Damn Chain-ee, do I have to babysit yer azz and keep you incompetant bastards on the same page?!

From Crooks and Liars.
Cheney didn't even go to the hospital. He went back to the "bunkhouse" and had dinner.

FRANKEN: And you have to ask yourself the following questions. Why didn't he go to the hospital if-he went back to the ranch and had dinner. Now, if you are so worried-he said that he didn't get the story out because he wasn't sure how serious this was.

If you are so concerned about how serious this is, you go to the hospital. He said-when he was asked by Brit Hume in this very softball interview, you know, did you go on - in the ambulance, he went, well, no. There wasn‘¥ enough -it was very crowded, and they didn't need another body.

Well, the-he-there are plenty of vans that he could have gone to the hospital in. So, it begs the question...

SCARBOROUGH: You are making a good point. You are making a good point, that, had I shot somebody, had you shot somebody, we certainly would have rushed to the hospital, even if we were vice president of the United States.

Two interesting stories on FTW, Russia warns US not to threaten Tehran and the one just after it regarding $130/barrel oil prices. Read them here Now waiting for the other shoe...China.

LOOKS LIKE THE DOCS IN LITTLE ALICE TEXAS ARE NOT AMUSED -- DON'T LIKE BEING SLIGHTED IN THE MEDIA REPORTS

Some enterprising reporter should get one of these docs or medical technicians on the horn...they might be in the mood to talk.

Raj Subnani, a surgeon for CHRISTUS Spohn Hospital Alice and CHRISTUS Spohn Hospital Kleberg said that about 15 to 20 Kingsville hospital staff members helped care for Whittington that included a CAT scan by a technician. He and the staff were upset that most media reports didn't even mention Whittington's first stop at the Kingsville hospital. Subnani was called from his Alice home to the Kingsville hospital Saturday about 6:15 p.m. He said he rushed to the hospital and arrived about 30 minutes later as the ambulance arrived at the Kingsville hospital from the Armstrong Ranch.

Alan, I posted it because is either a crock of shyt or painfully true. Could put Iran on the back burner. The cabal does not have any love for the Syrians, come to think of it, neither does anyone else. BOMBS AWAY!!

#48 Den ..the Kay/ Duelfer Report confirmed that there were absolutely no WMD's moved to Syria.

Facts do not matter to this administration...they will spin until the public says WMD's WMD's.

The Duelfer Report is quite the read..I made it about a third of the way through when it first came out..TRY IT.

52 Flan..it's true Matthews has devoted his last three nights to this Cheney event. I'm with one of his journalist/ guest the other night I think his name was Tony Blakely, he thinks the media is making a mountain out of a molehill. I think they took the Rove bait. Rove really knows how to take the press where he wants them to go. (he is the one who held onto the information about the accident)

The obsession with the Cheney event by so many in the press,keeps me wanting to know and focused on what they are not reporting.

#61 Den... I bet you are a christian...I bet you go to church on Sunday too. Is it the same church that Bush and Cheney go to?

Your attitude is sick and dangerous.

Den.. Go read the Kay/Duelfer Report and then get back with us.

You might try to base your statements on careful and thoughtful analysis and facts. Try it..you might like it.

Kathleen, everything Ive read regarding the Kay/Duelfer is related to trying to find WMD in Iraq, nobody was looking in Syria for WMDs MOVED FROM Iraq.

Troll in, I'm out!

DEn...the Duelfer Report says that there is absolutely no evidence to support the claims by the Bush administration that WMD's were moved to Syria.

Have you ever gone to the PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY or read the document A CLEAN BREAK..A NEW STRATEGY FOR SECURING THE REALM, written by Liv and David Wurmser and Richard Perle for Netanyahu.

If you have not, go check it out. The regime change plan is clearly written out for us to follow. So far this radical agenda seems to be moving forward.

Den I have to ask you when you say "bombs away" do you really lack any feelings for the Iraqi or Iranian people that will be murdered by our military as this radical regime change agenda is implemented?

Do you have children or siblings? Are you unable to walk in their shoes for just a moment?

A great war leaves the country with three armies - an army of cripples, an army of mourners, and an army of thieves. German Proverb

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Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms: Congressman Ron Paul

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"If these precedents are to stand unimpeached, and to provide sanctions for the continued conduct of America affairs -- the Constitution may be nullified by the President and officers who have taken the oath and are under moral obligation to uphold it..they may substitute personal and arbitrary government -- the first principle of the totalitarian system against which it has been alleged that World War II was waged -- while giving lip service to the principle of constitutional government." : Professor Charles Beard - President Roosevelt and the Coming of the War 1941, 1948.

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Thanks ICH Newsletter!

Kathleen: what Chris Matthews does on his program IS NOT NEWS; his is NOT a news program!

I have been able to read about a lot of other things this week, in addition to the cheney shooting -- some of the stories of importance today that I've read about:

Iraqi govt condemns Abu Ghraib abuse
New prisoner abuse footage
Homeland Security defends hurricane response
The UN calls for the US to shut down Gitmo
House condemns Iran's Nuke Program
Israel plans sanctions as Hamas nominates a PM
Patriot Act
Internet Companies and their China Stance
Bernake talks about Inflation
Olympic stories
Bush Administration is selling out port security

And that's just a small sample of the important stories being reported...stay away from Matthews, Hannity, et al. and you'd be exposed to more NEWS!

Close this

Here we go...the MSM has let this agenda just roll along the last several years..basically ignoring the stage being set.

Attacking Iran should be an option: Britain's Tories

Wed Feb 15, 7:42 PM ET

;LONDON (AFP) - Military action against

Iran should not be ruled out to deal with its controversial nuclear programme, a newspaper quoted Britain's main opposition Conservative Party as saying.

The Times newspaper said the party's defence spokesman Liam Fox told US Republicans in Washington that British Prime Minister Tony Blair should follow

President George W. Bush's example and leave all options on the table

"Every pressure must be brought," Fox was quoted as saying in a speech to the right-wing Hermitage Foundation Thursday.

"But it was wrong for the European Union's foreign affairs spokesman Xavier Solana to rule out the use of force. It is wrong for Britain's Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw, to echo him.

"Frederick the Great once observed that diplomacy without arms was like music without instruments. We must keep all options open if we are to stand any chance of a diplomatic solution to the Iranian crisis."

Blair has made repeated warnings to Tehran that it was making a mistake by ignoring international concern over its nuclear research programme, which Western powers fear is a front for developing atomic weapons.

But he has said that military action is "not on our agenda".

Instead, he hopes the crisis -- which has seen Iran reported to the

;United Nations Security Council -- will be resolved through diplomatic means.

Fox is part of a Conservative Party delegation attempting to heal a rift with senior US Republicans following the Tories' call two years ago for Blair to resign over the Iraq war.

er Hamas Takes Over AP

* U.N. Report Equates Gitmo to Torture AP&
* Iraq probes capture of possible "death squad" team Reuters

;Liam Fox talks to journalists outside the Houses of Parliament in London, October 2005. Military action against Iran should not be ruled out to deal with its controversial nuclear programme, The Times quoted Conservative Party defence spokesman Fox as saying(AFP/File/John D McHugh)

AFP/File Photo: Liam Fox talks to journalists outside the Houses of Parliament in London, October 2005. Military...

#68 Caroline...I am a news junkie. I read from the right left and center. (the nation, Corn, antiwar.com, Atlantic Monthly, National Review, Military Week, Weekly standard..etc. etc.

I watch Matthews at least three times a week to see what they are missing and am at times pleasantly surprised.

He has been open to pressure from the public, I have had a first hand experience with Matthews response to some criticism from a group of addicted media watchers that I am part of.

Matthews now has Amy Goodman and Katrina from the Nation on as guest. Pressure is a good thing, and it can work.

The Syrian CB or WMD's pipline is pure right-wingnut conjecture. The last best hope to try to make right the lies that started this illegal and unwise invasion of Iraq.

Sure, the liars will all be proved right, someday, when we find where the moved the WMD's - no doubt.

I suggest any such misunderstanding of the facts just check what the inspectors said all along. There were none and are none, no stockpiles, no chemical or biological weapons, no drone aircraft, no nuclear programs or even program related activities.

Hans Blix, David Kay, Scott Ritter and the Duelfer Report say there were no stockpiles to move. To find these stockpiles would make Bunnypants right and all of the experts above liars. You can calculate the odds of that happening for yourself.

Enough said.

capt

Kathleen,
What did Amy goodman have to say on Matthews?

influencing public opinion must be the first order of business when planning for war. And make no mistake: war is a business. So when no enemy ships are offshore, no enemy planes are flying overhead and no enemy troops are massing on the border, it is difficult to spread war fever. Therefore, deceit must be used to start offensive wars.

Kay: No evidence Iraq stockpiled WMDs

Former chief U.S. inspector faults intelligence agencies

(CNN) -- Two days after resigning as the Bush administration's top weapons inspector in Iraq, David Kay said Sunday that his group found no evidence Iraq had stockpiled unconventional weapons before the U.S.-led invasion in March.

He said U.S. intelligence services owe President Bush an explanation for having concluded that Iraq had.

"My summary view, based on what I've seen, is we're very unlikely to find large stockpiles of weapons," he said on National Public Radio's "Weekend Edition." "I don't think they exist."

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The idea that Saddam could move stuff of any kind from Iraq before Bunnypants started his hobby war was being discussed. The possibility is not a new or untested idea. Everyone of the inspectors were charged with finding evidence of production, they found none. Iraq could not move something they did not produce.

capt

war planners must control the media and “manage information” first and foremost if the United State is going to be able to “win” future wars. The recent acceptance by many of domestic spying, domestic psyops and torturing foreigners because it is “needed” in the War on Terror displays a most disturbing trend in public opinion.

Kathleen #70

Thats the kind of touchy feely crap that will never allow a women to be President, even Hillary the lesbo.

The Iraq war's defining weapon

BANGALORE - The threat posed by Iraq's reported possession of weapons of mass destruction was the excuse US President George W Bush gave for his invasion of Iraq in 2003, but it is the simplest of technologies - the roadside bomb - that has emerged as the biggest nightmare for US occupation forces in Iraq.

The improvised explosive device (IED), which is the insurgents' weapon of choice in Iraq, has accounted for more than half of all US injuries and deaths in combat since March 2003 - by far the single greatest cause of death for US service members.

According to Pentagon figures through January 21, IEDs have accounted for at least 894 of the 1,735 US military deaths (51%) by hostile fire and over 9,200 of the more than 16,500 wounded (56%).

It is being described as the defining weapon of the war in Iraq, lethal though low in technological sophistication. The IED is a simple weapon, easy and cheap to build, and easier to hide. This makes it an attractive weapon for insurgents.

An IED is often just some old artillery shells detonated by remote control or by an electric charge through an attached wire. In Iraq, IEDs have been remotely detonated using readily available doorbells, cellular phones, pagers, car alarms, garage-door openers, toy-car remotes and so on. They are hidden alongside roads in potholes, rubbish heaps, discarded cartons, drink cans and animal carcasses.

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If the Iraqis had CB or WMD’s they would not have to move them, they could have distributed them among Ba’athist and Saddam loyalists. They in turn would have used one/some by now.

capt

The lies that initiated the swell of popular support for the invasion of Iraq are well documented, yet the war planning for the next battle in the Perpetual War upcoming in Iran is following the exact same path. Hey, it worked, didn’t it? My greatest fear is “another catalyzing event like Pearl Harbor ” or 9-11 being planned by our brilliant war planners who thought that Iraq would be a cakewalk. People are starting to turn against occupying the Middle East into perpetuity so they need to be whipped up into another war fever before we invade Iran and perhaps even back the use of nuclear weapons in the process.

Capt

Would you quit using Scott Rider as a source: The creap is a pedophile.

Chris Matthews compares Michael Moore to Osama Bin Laden

On Hardball today, Chris Matthews compared Michael Moore to Osama Bin Laden while discussing the newly released tape with Joe Biden.

Matthews: I mean he sounds like an over the top Michael Moore here, if not a Michael Moore. You think that sells...

Talk about pandering to the right wing let alone an out-right smear in the worst way. Not only is he making a comparison, but he's calling Michael Moore-"Osama." If he compared a conservative figure to Osama what do you think would happen? Chris Matthews owes Michael Moore an apology and fast

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Chris Matthews makes an fool of himself when he opens his mouth. He is a tool of the rightwingnut propaganda machine and offering him your patronage via viewership is just a way to support him.

He (as all others) plays to the ratings. That is the only reason he conditions his message and tempers his obvious leanings.

capt

Chris Matthews: 2005's Misinformer of the Year

Since our launch in May 2004, Media Matters for America has monitored, analyzed, and corrected conservative misinformation in the media, wherever and whenever we find it. As you may remember, last year our staff conducted an extensive review of all the misinformation we identified and corrected in the early days in order to name the first annual "Misinformer of the Year." We singled out one particularly egregious purveyor of falsehoods and awarded Bill O'Reilly the dubious title. O'Reilly graciously accepted the award on Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor.

This year, of all the news anchors, columnists, pundits, and reporters whose work we've critiqued and corrected, one man stands alone as a clear successor to the O'Reilly throne. We are pleased to announce broadcast journalist, former newspaper bureau chief, former presidential speechwriter, and best-selling author Chris Matthews has earned the title of 2005's "Misinformer of the Year." At times, it has even been difficult to tell the difference between 2005's Misinformer of the Year and his predecessor.

For your reading pleasure, we've compiled some highlights of Matthews's most egregious false and misleading claims, as well as his glowing and gushing praise for President Bush.
Without further ado:

More HERE

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As bad or worse than O'Reily. That is no joke and he does report "news" he misinforms. That is the nature of the MSM, no?

capt

US struggles with a mutating insurgency

WASHINGTON - Despite reports of growing tensions and even occasional clashes between Islamists and nationalists, the predominantly Sunni insurgency in Iraq appears increasingly united and confident of victory, according to a report released on Wednesday by the Brussels-based International Crisis Group (ICG).

The 30-page report, based primarily on an analysis of the public communications of insurgent groups, as well as interviews and past studies about the insurgency, also concludes that rebel groups have adapted quickly and effectively to changing US tactics - in both the military and political spheres.

"Over time, the insurgency appears to have become more coordinated, confident, sensitive to its constituents' demands and adept at learning from the enemy's successes and its own failures," said the report, "In Their Own Words: Reading the Iraqi Insurgency".

"The US must take these factors into account if it is to understand the insurgency's resilience and learn how to counter it," it said, stressing that the most effective responses included reining in and disbanding sectarian militias responsible for human-rights abuses and repeatedly making clear that Washington had no designs on Iraq's oil resources or on its territory for military bases.

More HERE

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Yet we are not making anything clear. We are the reason and the force of chaos. "Mission Accomplished"

capt

Chris Matthews in his own words:
(From Media Matters)

Matthews continued to lead cheers for McCain, awarded him victory in Obama flap Monday, February 13, 2006 3:12PM

Milbank, Matthews falsely suggested that only Democrats and "poor Republicans like Bob Barr" question the legality of NSA program Friday, February 10, 2006 5:25PM

Media accused liberals of politicizing King funeral, ignored conservatives' use of Reagan funeral Thursday, February 9, 2006 4:01PM

Promising viewers "straight talk" from McCain, Matthews instead provided forum to bash Obama Tuesday, February 7, 2006 7:41PM

Matthews falsely claimed that Bush's 2004 comment denying warrantless wiretaps was "pre-9-11" Monday, February 6, 2006 6:31PM

Matthews, responding to assessment that Giulani is "very strong in South Carolina": "Music to my ears. Because I think that too" Monday, February 6, 2006 11:37AM

Matthews on Gergen's reference to Boehner tobacco check incident: "Wow. ... Everybody else ... forgives and forgets, but not Gergen." Friday, February 3, 2006 2:15PM

Wasting little time, Matthews repeated spy program falsehoods immediately after SOTU Wednesday, February 1, 2006 10:25AM

Matthews, Carlson suggested Democrats who don't applaud Bush speech will "look bad," which will be "good for the Republicans" Tuesday, January 31, 2006 3:11PM

Matthews on Sen. Kennedy: "the guy that molested" Martha-Ann Alito Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:53PM

Matthews: Hard-working Latino immigrants are "natural Republicans" Friday, January 27, 2006 1:32PM

Matthews falsely accused political ad of smearing DeLay Thursday, January 26, 2006 12:02PM

In its boilerplate apology for Brokeback smears, MSNBC omitted mention of Matthews Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:58PM

Despite media hailing McCain as "untainted" reformer, like many Dems he took money from Abramoff clients Monday, January 23, 2006 4:28PM

Matthews, Gingrich, Hannity, others seize on new bin Laden tape to discredit war critics Friday, January 20, 2006 3:47PM

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This is just the most recent 15 of 107 entries. All of this are in less than a month.

capt

The thing about Chris Matthews is he seems honest. O'Reilly is a joke. So people watch Matthews and think they're getting real news. You figure the facts are at least honest. This is why I never watch that junk anymore. I don't have time to decipher what's honest and what isn't.

If you haven't eaten supper yet don't hit the link.
Ugh

Bush sometimes "glimmers" with "sunny nobility." On MSNBC's Hardball, during a discussion with Washington Times editorial page editor Tony Blankley of the effects on President Bush and his administration of the investigation into the leak of the name of CIA operative Valerie Plame, Matthews said "[S]ometimes it glimmers with this man, our president, that kind of sunny nobility." [Hardball, 10/24/05]

Anybody that could say such a thing is insane.

Sunny nobility? That is the most blind loyalty expressed.

capt

capt

Comparing Osama to Michael Moore is an insult to Osama!

"King Dick" Thought Johnny Holmes was making a comeback !!!!

Kathleen, you may be a news junkie, but you are getting JUNK from Matthews. I don't care if Amy Goodman and Katrina VandenHuevl(sp?) are on his show -- I can get the straight stuff from Amy and Katrina w/o watching that whore Matthews. (I wish they wouldn't lend their good name to his show either.)

I get really tired of people who profess their beliefs in a fair and unfettered press, then turn their dial to help the ratings of a two-bit opportunist like Matthews.

If you cared more about holding the MSM feet to the fire, you wouldn't give people like Matthews the time of day.

As Caroline said, he isn't a news man anyway.

Matthews reacts to pressure from Kathleen? Is that what you have suggested?

Matthews is a master of the bait and switch. He also comes across as a classic abuser, IMO.

If you think for one minute that he and his producer would respond to pressure demanding fairness, you must not know about the ratings game.

The only pressure they will respond to is pressure from advertisers if the ratings tumble.

when an administration lies so often, this is what happens...people keep speculating because the story isn't plausible...

Alan Dershowitz is speculating like everybody else, but he says it's speculation based on his own experience as a criminal defense lawyer: "It is fairly common for people involved in alcohol-related accidents to delay reporting them until the alcohol has left the body," he says. "There is no hard evidence that this is what happened here, but we are entitled to a better explanation. We should be told whether Vice President Cheney's victim had alcohol in his system when he was taken to the hospital. Was there any alcohol at or near the hunting area? Were any in the hunting party carrying flasks (which is apparently common among hunters)? What was Cheney doing just before he went hunting?"

Dershowitz says that the "burden of proof has now shifted to the vice president to explain why he made this stupid, or very clever, decision." That's not true in the legal sense, but it may be in the world of politics and public relations, at least if Brit Hume's post-interview spin -- no one cares about this incident except the V.P., and he feels just terrible -- isn't allowed to carry the day.

One significant hole in the "Cheney was trying to sober up" theory: After Whittington was shipped off to the hospital Saturday night, Armstrong says, the vice president "fixed himself a cocktail back at the house."

Update: As a couple of War Room readers have noted, Cheney's post-shooting cocktail isn't necessarily a hole in the theory at all: If you want to make it impossible to prove that your blood-alcohol level was elevated before shooting somebody, make sure a witness sees you pouring a stiff drink for yourself afterward. (from salon.com)

I wonder about people who spend day after day reading the comments on this blog just to post contradictory, belligerent and inflammatory insults. What do you make of them? They like negative attention. They fancy themselves as clever. They have time to waste and they're not very interested in policy or politics. Today, the faithful have shown discipline disengaging, not engaging, and not taking the bait. Kudos.

only 32 more shopping days 'til the proposed iranian oil bourse!

Who said: "We don't want the smoking gun to come in the form of a mushroom cloud."

1. Laura Bush
2. Hillary Clinton
3. Pamela Willeford
4. Lynn Cheney
5. Condi Rice

ANSWER

# Caroline and Micki you are wrong about this issue While I will agree Matthews and his program are held captive to ratings...You have obviously never tried to apply pressure on the mainstream in a collective way.

Matthews responded to a petition/letter signed by 615 people who asked for more individuals from the left of center on his program. (including Amy Goodman and Katrina). We sent this petition around 4 years ago. Hardball responded within three months to this request.

Whether you want to accept it or not Caroline and Micki I have had many direct experiences of being part of groups an as and individual applying pressure on the mainstream media and had them respond.( I have shared just a few with Saladin)

You can be sarcastic, you can be demeaning you can keep your head up where the head does not shine..but the mainstream media will actually respond if enough pressure is applied.

Another choice Caroline and Micki is to stay on the Corn site interacting with others who mostly agree on topics, and think you are doing something

Or you can choose to venture out and challenge the mainstream (although I do find Corn fairly mainstream on some issues). Or just stay here and complain.

Kerry calls Bush's proposed pay raise for troops the "lowest in 12 years."

WASHINGTON, DC - Today, Senator John Kerry (D-Mass.) led a 10-Senator effort to increase the pay for servicemembers. The President's budget specifies a 2.2% increase - the smallest pay raise for our military since 1994.

"Our troops are sacrificing so much, in every corner of the world. Shortchanging them and the families who love them is a lousy way to say thanks," said Kerry, who authored the letter.

"Our military deserves leadership that matches their service and patriotism. Getting our troops the pay raise they deserve is the very least we can do to show how much we value everything they do for us. I'm going to fight for a fair military pay raise until it becomes a reality, and I thank my colleagues who have joined me in doing so," added Kerry.
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However, if the servicemen get a payraise, what gets cut? Health care and education? God forbid we raise taxes on the rich.

Ok folks, apparently I erred in my previous post that Kathleen was so upset about. Let me explain why I thought this might have merit, their could be things that go on between the people of the middle east that NO one knows about. Just as their are things in Jersey that happen without general knowledge. Im just saying I am skeptical of a lot of things that take place in our govt. we do not know what is truth and fake. Also I by no meant by the statement "Bombs Away" meant I advocated any bombing or killing, there is NO reason for killing fellow human beings PERIOD. War is the playground for sick minds which has been proven over and over. It was sarcastic to infer that our leaders are trigger happy with the bombs. Hopes this clears up any misunderstanding, nite all!

"Advertising may be described as the science of arresting the human intelligence long enough to get money from it." ~ Unknown

"As long as people will accept crap, it will be financially profitable to dispense it." ~ Dick Cavett (1936 - )

Den, I understood you perfectly and I could see Kathleen didn't get your humor there. Flan didn't get Gerald's humor either about the muzzle. Sometimes our writing isn't clear enough, I guess.

#72 Jeanne...I have seen Amy Goodman on Matthews at least 8 times. You would have to go back through the transcripts to find out exactly what she has said.

Matthews has generally had her on in regard to the war in Iraq. She of course is always clear, and I believe accurate. Amy always gets her points out without being sarcastic or disrespectful.

Matthews really likes her and they actually agree on quite a bit. He has been impatient with Katrina at times. My take on this is that he knows she is smarter than him.
When I go through the Media Matter statements that Capt posted about Matthews, it's rather lop--sided.

While I have heard plenty of comments out of Matthews mouth that are outrageous,sarcastic and dismissive. I have heard him rip this administration on many, many occasions.

I have heard him rip the pre-war intelligence and the radical right wing. I have heard him be really sarcastic with David Frum and Bill Kristol.

I do not listen to him for the widest perspective on the days events...just the mainstream angle on things.

Watching the MSM helped me understand just why over 50% of middle america supported the invasion. When you watched the MSM one could understand it fully. Middle america was just hearing Bush, Wolfowitz, Cheney, Rice and the rest of the radicals repeat the same thing over and over again.

I know there are many of this site that believe that middle america should take more responsibility for being informed. (I have had this argument with I think Saladin or Micki)...but believe it or not some people really do not have the time. They depend on that hour that they can turn on the T.V. for the '"so called news" and they want to believe they are being told the truth

The propaganda we pass off as news around the world

A British government-funded fake TV news service allows mild criticism of the US - all the better to support it

A succession of scandals in the US has revealed widespread government funding of PR agencies to produce "fake news". Actors take the place of journalists and the "news" is broadcast as if it were genuine. The same practice has been adopted in Iraq, where newspapers have been paid to insert copy. These stories have raised the usual eyebrows in the UK about the pitiful quality of US democracy. Things are better here, we imply. We have a prime minister who claimed in 2004 that "the values that drive our actions abroad are the same values of progress and justice that drive us at home". Yet in 2002 the government launched a littleknown television propaganda service that seems to mimic the US government's deceptive approach to fake news.

The British Satellite News website says it is "a free television news and features service". It looks like an ordinary news website, though its lack of copyright protection might raise some questions in alert journalists. Broadcasters can put BSN material "directly into daily news programmes". In fact, BSN is provided by World Television, a company that also makes corporate videos and fake news clips for corporations such as GlaxoSmithKline, BP and Nestl?. It also produced Towards Freedom Television on behalf of the UK government. This was a propaganda programme broadcast in Iraq by US army psychological-operations teams from a specially adapted aircraft in 2003/04.

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#97 Den... I apologize...I am not always the best at following peoples twist and turns. I am relatively straight up.

So I apologize for my inability to follow your sarcasm.

This may surprise you, at least the source could.

The Little-Noticed Order That Gave Dick Cheney New Power, Have you ever heard of Executive Order 13292?

National Review

America Abandoned

Take a look at New Orleans today. It resembles the burned out blocks of Detroit, not rebuilt since riots decades ago, testifying to a basic truth. America's wealth and power are not directed towards our well-being and security.

Maybe it's easier to grasp this when pondering Sept 11. Our vaunted military did not protect us from low-tech attacks. America has over 800 military bases strung across the globe, but the fact is New York and Washington were not protected.

Doubtful? We were warned about Katrina for years. Newt Gingrich is right when he asks how we can think we're safe when New Orleans was destroyed under our noses. [Fox News, Sept. 6, 2005]

Before continuing, I want to point out an obvious fact. The Bush administration purveys falsehoods as a matter of policy. Those who prove this are disparaged as the "reality community." [Boston Globe, quoting writer Ron Suskind, Nov. 5, 2004]

These obvious falsehoods are directed to the administration’s political base, which either doesn't realize this, or doesn’t care. A few examples of very significant deceptions are in order.

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A good piece.

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Anyone on this site willing to contact the Diane Rehm show to ask her to bring Paul Pillar the Former Senior CIA intelligence official on her show. I could not believe that she has not all ready had him on.

Call 202-885-1231 or e-mail drshow@wamu.org. If enough folks make this request the producers will comply.

Hey caroline you could give this a shot and see for yourself.

Remember it was just last week that Paul Pillar came out and accused and testified that the Bush administration had "misused and cherry picked" the pre-war intelligence. ( he has been saying this for quite some time now.)

Somehow his testimony and others who came out last week have somehow been swept out of the spotlight rather quickly by this hunting accident.

If you feel so inclined to call or e-mail Diane Rehm that would be greatly appreciated.

Documents show Maryland held election, primary on uncertified, illegal Diebold voting machines

The Maryland State Board of Elections allowed Diebold Election Systems to operate its touch-screen voting machines during the state's 2002 gubernatorial election and the 2004 presidential primaries before the state agency actually certified the controversial machines, according to recently disclosed documents.

That is a violation of state law, according to Linda Schade, executive director of TrueVoteMD.org, an election integrity group.

....Upsets and unusual outcomes

In November 2002, Lamone, a Democrat, allowed Diebold to operate its machines in four counties for the state gubernatorial election. That was when Ehrlich became the first Republican governor to be elected in 36 years in what had always been known as a solidly Democratic state.

That was also the year when a Republican political newcomer, a self-described "nobody," ousted a veteran Democratic state senator in what The Baltimore Sun described as "one of the most remarkable election upsets in recent Maryland political history."

After serving for several decades, Democratic House Speaker Casper R. Taylor Jr. lost his Allegany County seat to LeRoy E. Myers. Allegany County was one of the four counties where Diebold machines were used that year.

In March 2004, during the presidential primary elections, Maryland became one of only two states in the country to use Diebold voting machines throughout the entire state. A month later, Schade filed her lawsuit in an attempt to prevent Diebold from running the upcoming November 2004 presidential elections, accusing Lamone in the suit of "recklessly certifying" the machines for the primary elections.

But at the time, Schade had no idea that Lamone had not even bothered certifying the machines. In fact, the machines did not get certified until the following month. The machines were finally certified May 20, 2004.

.....Skyrocketing costs and financial incentives

Despite the obvious flaws and election law violations, Lamone still managed to run up a multimillion dollar budget to maintain the Diebold machines, according to the governor's letter.

"The cost of Maryland's Diebold voting machines has skyrocketed as our confidence in the system has plummeted," he said.

"At the time, the General Assembly's fiscal note for House Bill 1457 estimated that the total cost would be $36,890,000. The actual cost, which has been financed by the state by the State Treasurer was $65,564,674 –†an almost 78 percent increase from the original cost estimate.

"However, this misjudgment pales in comparison to the 1000 percent increase for estimates of the annual maintenance costs for the system," the letter states.

Schade, who ran for state legislator in 2002 under the Green Party and has spent the last two years researching the situation, said that Lamone authorized more than $111 million in contracts to Diebold since 2002. She also believes there is a conflict of interest between Lamone and Diebold because for the past two years, Lamone has been president of the National Association of State Election Directors, which approves all voting machines before they are used.
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How many cases like this are out there in the US? The US needs to do a thorough investigation of the voting in the last two elections. The peole of this nation deserve to know just how much they have been cheated. They deserve to know how much fraud was perpetrated against them. If I was Cheney and Bush I'd be getting a little worried because every story like this that comes out makes the public more angry.

"Hey caroline you could give this a shot and see for yourself."

Hey, yourself. Diane Rhem is NOT Chris Matthews. Diane would probably respond to "suggestions" (not pressure); Matthews would not

If you don't see the difference, so be it.

But, it must be nice to live in a world where one feels that everyone is listening to them and their words of wisdom. If that were the case, we wouldn't be in this mess, no?

#104 Capt. Congressman Barney Franks was on Matthews the other night. He said that what had taken place in New Orleans and was continuing to take place was a type of "ethnic cleansing". That the "new" New Orleans would be "whiter and richer".

He went onto say that Karl Rove and other Republicans were looking at the advantages of 60% of the black population that were displaced by the storm are reporting that they will not be returning to New Orleans.

They see this as an opportunity for the Republican vote.

I am telling you Matthews responded. Diane Rehms has responded many times.

I am not telling you that it will always work. I am asking you to let down your defenses and try.

You can continue to try to be demeaning and all I will tell you is that yes I have had a fair amount of successes and failures in lobbying the media to do particular shows and cover certain topics.

I am not attributing these successes to me..I am attributing these successes to TRYING.TRYING ..NOT JUST BITCHING......MAKING THE EFFORT individually or collectively,

You should try it with the main..mainstream some time you might be surprised.

I wrote Hillary Clinton and asked her to run for President. We'll see...

"...but believe it or not some people really do not have the time. They depend on that hour that they can turn on the T.V. for the '"so called news" and they want to believe they are being told the truth."

Wait just a minute here, Kathleen, you seem to be suggesting that Chris Matthews' version of the "truth" is more palatable to you than say, NBC, ABC, or CBS or who?

If you can cite specific examples of an "untruth" on one of the three major networks' evening newscast, please be my guest and tell us. Maybe they haven't told YOU everything you want to hear, but telling an "untruth" is quite another matter.

Lump me in with Saladin and Micki, because the PEOPLE do have a responsibility. I could go to the "good German" theory to bolster my position