O.K. I laughed along with everyone, except the Whittington's, of course, about Cheney's mishap.

But yesterday's whistleblower hearing is the story of the day.

PLEASE!

Mr. David Corn,

Not bad for fluff.

I actually do feel bad for Cheney. I am pretty sure it was accidental and an injury of any kind will likely shorten the life of a person in their late '70's. If the guy does die from a heart attack, infection or any cause that stemmed from being shot, the VP could be guilty of manslaughter.

The MSM might be starting to copy Jon Stewart and TDS but they are way late on the uptake. The MSM will not regain my viewership until they run the story about how badly they have let the public down.

The MSM is principally responsible for the results of the '04 election. They were holding the hottest potato any news-service ever had in their hands before an important election and they simply held the story? (insert string of expletives here)

Thanks for all of your work

Kirk

ACLU Says National Security Whistleblower Protections Lacking, Calls For Corrections to Critical Shortcomings in Current Law

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: Media@dcaclu.org

WASHINGTON - Citing growing concerns over court decisions that have weakened laws designed to protect whistleblowers, the American Civil Liberties Union today called on Congress to enact stronger protections for whistleblowers, especially those in the national security arena. Legislation that would take steps to correct some shortcomings in whistleblower law - but without critical protections for national security whistleblowers - was the subject of a hearing held by a panel of the House Government Reform Committee.

"Whistleblowers play an essential role in keeping government honest," said Caroline Fredrickson, Director of the ACLU Washington Legislative Office. "These brave men and women inform the public about government misconduct, including civil liberties violations. Whistleblowers have called attention to serious security failures, putting pressure on government to address critical deficiencies."

The House Government Reform Subcommittee on National Security, Emerging Threats, and International Relations met today to consider H.R. 1317, the "Federal Employee Protection of Disclosures Act." The ACLU said the bill would take steps to correct critical shortcomings in the Whistleblower Protection Acts of 1989 and 1994. Since Congress passed those bills, the main appeals court with jurisdiction has severely weakened the law in a series of decisions that misread the law in a way that is actively hostile to the congressional intent to protect whistleblowers.

The ACLU noted that whistleblowers often suffer retaliation for disclosing embarrassing information. In recent weeks, the Department of Justice has announced that it will investigate the disclosure of an illegal National Security Agency domestic eavesdropping operation approved by President George W. Bush. However, the ACLU noted that the attorney general has yet to investigate which laws were violated by the program - despite repeated calls for such an inquiry from members of Congress. Without the disclosure from that whistleblower, Congress and the public would continue to be unaware of the warrantless surveillance by the NSA.

If enacted, H.R. 1317 would better protect whistleblowers by providing: a normal standard of proof, no penalty for talking to bosses or fellow employees, no requirement that the whistleblower was the first person to make the disclosure, protection against retaliatory investigations and the right to pursue a jury trial when a government watchdog does not act.

The ACLU noted that H.R. 1317 does not protect all whistleblowers, as it leaves out government contractors; fails to fix a gap in current law for intelligence community employees from whom regulatory protections have been insufficient; and does not prohibit the career-ending revocation of a security clearance in retaliation for covered disclosures. It is critical that lawmakers correct these shortcomings, or else national security whistleblowers could remain out in the cold.

"Our nation is strengthened, not weakened, by people who have the courage and moral conviction to speak out against misconduct and abuse," Fredrickson added. "This bill is a step in the right direction, but more needs to be done. We urge Congress to act on this vital issue."

To read the ACLU’≥ letter on H.R. 1317, the "Federal Employee Protection of Disclosures Act," go to:
http://www.aclu.org/natsec/gen/21153leg20051018.html

For more on the ACLU’≥ work with national security whistleblowers, go to:
http://www.aclu.org/whistleblowers

For more on the ACLU’≥ concerns with the warrantless NSA spying program, go to:
http://www.aclu.org/nsaspying

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I think Robert hits the nail on the head.

capt

Jeez Louise! Feel bad for cheney????? Surely you jest, capt!

David, I say keep it up. Stay on this story. Be relentless. Be a pitbull. The bush/cheney regime have gotten away with murder, don't let them bury this one.

How about going after this angle... What's the deal between bush's staff and cheney's staff? Who runs this show anyway? It's more than apparent that the veep's office runs roughshod over bush. Where was bush on Saturday? When did he find out who the shooter was? When is bush going to "lead" on this? The press should be demanding that bush come out front and center on this, too.

How can the veep leave the State of Texas and not be subjected to a thorough interview with law enforcement? That stinks.

Looks like someone is finally willing to take on the WH propaganda machine.... "Propagandists on the Pentagon Payroll"...."This is the same White House that has spoken openly about their intense campaign to circumvent the mainstream media "filter" and communicate "good news" about the war in Iraq directly to the public. The administration has spent $62 million in taxpayer money to launch Arabic-language satellite news station Al-Hurra, a thinly veiled effort to spread US-friendly propaganda and win Arab hearts and minds across the Middle East. This same administration thinks there nothing to stop them from attempting to win over Americans in the same way". More here

I'm posting this from previous thread.

Self-Described Economic Hit Man John Perkins: "We Have Created the World’≥ First Truly Global Empire"

....JOHN PERKINS: Well, yes, in fact I put -- I was one of the ones responsible for putting together the main deal there in the early ‘∑0s. As you may recall, Amy, OPEC decided that they were going to clamp down on us, shut off our oil supplies. They didn't like our policies towards Israel, and so in the early 60s, the supply of oil was cut way back in this country. We had long lines of cars at the gas stations, and we were afraid we were going to go to another depression like the one that started in 1929, so the Treasury Department came to me and some other economic hit men and said, "Look, this is unacceptable." And I give all the details of this in the book, Confessions of an Economic Hit Man, but the short version is, they said, "Make sure that this doesn't happen again," and we knew that the key to stopping this sort of thing was Saudi Arabia, because it controlled more oil than anyone else and the Royal House of Saud was corruptible.

So again, the short version is we put together a deal whereby the House of Saud agreed to send almost all of the money it made from selling oil all over the world back to the U.S., invest it in U.S. government securities, the interest from those securities was used by the Treasury Department to hire U.S. companies to rebuild Saudi Arabia, power plants, desalinization plants, in fact, entire cities from the desert, and in the process, to westernize Saudi Arabia, to make it more like us. And the other part of the deal was the House of Saud agreed to keep the price of oil within limits acceptable to us, and we agreed to keep the House of Saud in power, and that deal still holds. It's been holding for a long time. There's a lot of blowback right now that's occurring around it, but from our standpoint as economic hit men, it was an extremely successful deal, and it’≥ the one we tried to replicate with Saddam Hussein in Iraq.

....JOHN PERKINS: And I think the fact that the scandal has come out and has been blown into such proportions is an indication that someone is sending Lula a very strong message. Incidentally, the jackal - I'll call him - that was working with Gutierrez of Ecuador said to me, "You know, this isn't limited to other countries. This happens in your country, too. Don't you think that the assassination of John Kennedy and Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King and John Lennon and others like that, and the many senators that have died in airplane crashes and other things, has sent a strong message to your politicians? And don't you think that?"
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You mean like Wellstone?
This man is blowing the cover off the US evil empire.

Mendacity, damn mendacity.

The press should stay on this story until they draw blood from the WH...keep 'em on the defensive...continue to highlight the waffling, bobbing and weaving, and lying and disregard for the truth...keep at 'em until other GOPers realize they'll have to break ranks with the VICE GRIP if they want to save THEIR sorry asses.

And THEN...maybe we can get to the bottom of all the other scandals. WEAKEN THE BASTARDS!

What an opportunity!

It can be done!

The "Cheney Shot Whittington" story may evolve into THE metaphor for the Bush presidency. It has many of the essential elements; a BIG mistake is made worse by stonewalling & lying, and the administrations’†efforts to dismiss it. We'll see if Mr. Whittington survives. If he doesn’¥, that may be the tipping point.

The back-story is that everyone, even MSM, has finally clued in to the method of operation of the Bush Whitehouse…†AND THEY’íE CALLING THEM ON IT. Yes, they are calling them on it. Did you hear that? They are calling them on it.

Everyone (here) who says there are far more important issues occurring as we speak, which are not getting appropriate play, IS CORRECT. (These would include Cheney authorizing Libby to disclose classified information; the Senate's investigation in FEMA’≥ response to Katrina; Congress’†intelligence oversight hearings; Justice Department prosecution (reads: intimidation) of intelligence personnel; NSA’≥ warrantless wiretapping; Phase II of the senate intelligence committee for pre-war use of intelligence.

You are correct but it is not of great concern because it’≥ more important that MSM continues the process of adopting a new outlook toward the Bush presidency; an outlook that questions their policies, the slight of hand, the deceitful PR rather than continue to parroted WH and RNC talking points. This accident, this mistake took on these characteristics when Cheney and the WH treated it as business as usual.

Does anyone want to take odds on whether the secret is (1) the proximity of the victim to the VP (2) alcohol consumption by the VP (3) a torrid extra-marital affair between the VP and the former ambassador to Switzerland?
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I can relate to the statement:: I actually do feel bad for Cheney.

even if cheney does seem to aspire towards being some soulless darth vader type figure (all roads lead to dick cheney), he did just shoot his friend in the face, and that must be a terrible feeling indeed.

I was listening to Talk of the Nation today on NPR. The topic was...you guessed it...Cheney's role in his shooting of a hunter.

There were people who were calling and claiming that it should not have been reported at all. If it was just a case of two hunters it wouldn't make headline news. Thank goodness the guy being interviewed wasn't a lapdog for the white house. He said that it was news. He was vice president and plays a very important role in this administration. His behavior during all of this is news.

I don't care what two hunters do in a case like this. They are not running the country. If the one hunter convinces another not to report the shooting I don't have to deal with it. If the one hunter convinces the other to take the blame I don't have to deal with it. But I do have to deal with it when it's Cheney. He is telling me by his actions that he takes no responsibility, that he lies, that he works in secret. This may be an insignificant incident to some but to me it is a very clear picture of how this administration runs.

Hmmmmm, I can't feel sorry for him. I feel sorry for Harry. I might have felt sorry for Cheney if he had come clean from the start, gave a news conference and showed some compassion. Maybe. I'm not sure even then.

Maybeeeeeeeeeee, all cheney was doing was "expressing" his chagrin with Whittington over his denunciation of using convicts in Texas to train bloodhounds. Whittington was against this practice and said so -- said it was "barbaric."

Or maybe cheney just disagreed with Whittington when he spoke out against execution of a retarded murderer. Whittington seemed troubled that the condemned man's mental age was put at 6 or 7.
"If his chronological age was 6 or 7, we wouldn't even be here," Whittington told a press conference. "We must put our state on a higher moral course for justice."

Oh well, as Gore Vidal would say, we still have Kraft cheese and the death penalty...

Vice President Cheney talks to Fox News about accidental shooting
Ron Brynaert
Published: February 15, 2006

After a storm of criticism from Democrats and many Republicans, Vice President Cheney finally spoke directly to the public about the circumstances surrounding his accidental shooting of a 78-year-old lawyer on Saturday, in an interview on Fox News today, RAW STORY has learned. Excerpts were shown during Fox's 2 p.m. broadcast, with the full interview set to be aired at 6 p.m.

"Ultimately, I'm the guy who pulled the trigger. It was not Harry's fault. You can't blame anyone else. I'm the guy who pulled the trigger that shot my friend," Cheney told Britt Hume on Fox, "it's a day that I'll never forget."

The Vice President also revealed that he had a beer at a picnic held earlier in the day at the ranch, at least four to five hours before the shooting.

More.

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A beer? As in one singular beer? Or one beer to have when you're having more than one...

"Jeez Louise! Feel bad for cheney????? Surely you jest, capt!"

I feel badly for him because I do not think he feels badly for his actions.

I would feel badly if I accidentally shot Cheney.

He has cost a friend (no matter how dastardly the pair might be) years off of an already nearly complete life. 78 any injury is considerable.

That is all I mean.

capt

#11 and 12, Jeanne, I feel bad for Harry, too, and for all the dead soldiers, family members, friends, and citizens who have suffered because of the callous, calculating disregard for human life that riddles the ranks of the neo-totalitarians in the WH.

I doubt that cheney is feeling anything but anger.

Senator Byrd to call for special commission to investigate wiretaps
RAW STORY
Published: February 15, 2006

Senator Byrd is set to deliver a scathing indictment of the President’s secret wiretapping operation and will call for a special commission to investigate, RAW STORY has learned.

The speech will be delivered around 4pm ET. Excerpts follow. More soon.

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Five Minutes....

Senator Byrd's office says it will be on the Senate floor...therefore live on C-Span 2.

The aide informed me it will be a barnburner, her words.

David, I really liked your earlier headline: "No Retreat, No Surrender, No Recognition of Reality" I think it describes, exactly, those people who are glad the US left Vietnam after Tet, who refuse to accept any responsibility for the results of that policy, and who do not recognize the reality of hard choices. The anti-war policy choice in 1972 was "more war" or "run away" (and accept genocide). It seems clear that Dems want to wait until Iran, like Pakistan, gets nukes; and then some terrorists get them and Tel Aviv, or Miami, goes poof. Then blame the Reps for "not doing enough." Dick Cheney doesn't want to wait; and neither do I. Given how lousy the US intel is, I think statements about how close or how far Iran is from a nuke are not much better than my own guess (of 2 years). What to do about Iran is the big issue, now. A smaller issue is how successful the US has been in Iraq -- an elected democracy (once), with less than 2500 US casualties. The anti-war folk again offer no retreat on the general success there, so far. Of course, they implicity wanted 0 casualties -- I've never read of any who have said any higher number that would be "acceptable." Cheney's press response is a bit understandable when it's obvious that the MSM will try to spin it for maximal negativity; and it's not clear what condition Harry is in. I pray he recovers. Enjoy the jokes -- but don't show any pictures of Mohamed.

Robert #14,

As my brother-in-law often says, "Just one...after another."

And what of Cheney's female hunting companion (not his wife either mind you)? I say we take the bold move required here - Ken Starr, report for duty!!!

Robert

Where was your friend Sen Robert "KKK" Bird when Martin Luther King was being wiretapped by the Kennedy's?

Did he make any statements on the Sen floor at all?

February 15, 2006 -- National security whistleblowers testify to planted classified documents and other abuses. Testifying before the House Subcommittee on National Security, Emerging Threats and International Relations chaired by Connecticut Republican Rep. Chris Shays, five national security whistleblowers testified yesterday about malfeasance involving senior Bush administration officials.

The most stunning testimony came from Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, a Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) officer who was involved in a Top Secret data mining operation called Able Danger. Prior to 911, Able Danger identified Mohammed Atta and other members of his hijacking team but were prevented from informing the FBI and other agencies. Pennsylvania Republican Curt Weldon, who is not a member of Shays's subcommittee but was invited to participate in the hearings, said that Shaffer had been the victim of extreme retaliation by DIA and the Pentagon.

Two incidents Shaffer testified about point to malfeasance involving 911 Commission Executive Director Phil Zelikow, a colleague and friend of Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and CNN's Wolf Blitzer.

While Shaffer was stationed under cover and using an assumed name in Bagram, Afghanistan in October 2003, he was interviewed by Zelikow about Able Danger. After returning to the United States, Shaffer attempted to talk to Zelikow again. There were no further meetings and Zelikow stated he never met with Shaffer in the past. However, in testimony before Weldon and the House Armed Services Committee today, Shaffer said he is prepared to produce a business card given him by Zelikow in Afghanistan. Wayne Madsen

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That would be the same Phillip Zelikow who was the 9/11 Commission hack.

Right at this instant...

The senator's are discussing the speaking order....

feeling sorry for harry whittington is a given - -

anyway, US to promote democracy in Iran : Rice

"The United States will actively confront the aggressive policies of the Iranian regime," she told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

"At the same time, we will work to support the aspirations of the Iranian people for freedom and democracy in their country."

so if the US is truly going to promote democracy in Iran, they wont get the tar bombed out of them, right?

Robert #18

You meant to say "Cross Burner" instead of barn burner, didn't you? Unless the KKK had a lynching in the barn, then that might work.

Cheney: 'I pulled the trigger'

Vice President Dick Cheney has accepted full responsibility for shooting a hunting companion, speaking publicly for the first time today since the accident on Saturday.

"I'm the guy who pulled the trigger that fired the round that hit Harry," Cheney said in a US television interview.

"You can talk about all of the other conditions that exist at the time but that's the bottom line and - it was not Harry's fault," he said on Fox News.

"You can't blame anybody else. I'm the guy who pulled the trigger and shot my friend."

The wounded man is Texas lawyer Harry Whittington, 78, who was shot during a quail-hunting outing on a south Texas ranch.

Whittington was reported doing well at a Texas hospital after doctors confirmed that a pellet had entered his heart and had caused a mild heart attack.

Cheney has been roundly criticised for failing to tell the public about the accident, which remained unreported until the ranch's owner telephoned a local newspaper the next day.

He said he thought it made sense to let the owner of the ranch reveal the accident on the newspaper's web site Sunday morning.

"I thought that was the right call," Cheney said. "I still do."

One pellet from Cheney's shotgun - just a quarter of a centimetre in diameter - travelled to Whittington's heart and caused a minor heart attack on Tuesday, doctors said.

Hospital officials said Whittington had a normal heart rhythm again this afternoon and was sitting up in a chair, eating regular food and planning to do some legal work in his hospital room.

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Well good for him! I bet the "it is Harry’≥ fault" was a PR nightmare. Blame the victim is a court trick not a publicity device. That crud never plays well in the heartland or across the pond.

The "I thought that was the right call," Cheney said. "I still do." is more pretzel logic. I waited because I thought it was right does not make it right.

I bet it was like pulling teeth to get him to admit fault.

capt

Poor LBH, you have no clue as to the trajectory of thought which an inquiring mind may evolve through in the course of a lifetime.

Robert Kennedy was a voracious anti-communist in Senator McCarthy's committee.

He did not become something of a champion of the left until such time as he was travelling the country in an anti-poverty tour of such places as Appalachia prior to his run for President in 1968.

To maintain the canard of the Kennedy's being responsible for the wiretapping of MLK is to exclude the influence of a certain crossdressing, paranoid FBI director by the name of J. Edgar Hoover.
Which does not mean I am a huge fan of RFK Jr. I think he undercut the campaign of Eugene McCarthy. I am an equal opportunity critic, whose first anti-war chants were directed at LBJ.

And Senator Byrd just mentioned the T.A.L.O.N. program on the Senate floor.

Why the Chainy shooting is a big story is because the Bush regime is into secrecy. Secrecy leaves people with feelings that conspiracies abound in the Bush regime.

Frankly, if the Bush regime was more open and honest, the shooting would not be a big story.

Yet, I view Chainy as a person with a latent murderous personality.

Robert Kennedy was a voracious anti-communist in Senator McCarthy's committee.

Not as a Senator, but as a counsel. Just being clear.

Robert,
You should check out Democracy Now today. It was good.

In the name of fighting terror, are we to sacrifice every freedom to a President's demand? How far are we to go? Can a President order warrantless house-by-house searches of a neighborhood, where he suspects a terrorist may be hiding? Can he impose new restrictions on what can be printed, broadcast, or even uttered privately, because of some perceived threat to national security? Laughable thoughts? I think not. For this Administration has so traumatized the people of this nation -- and many in the Congress -- that some will swallow whole whatever rubbish that is spewed from this White House, as long as it is in some tenuous way connected to the so-called war on terror.

I plead with the American public to tune-in to what is happening in this country. Please forget the political party with which you may usually be associated, and, instead, think about the right of due process, the presumption of innocence, and the right to a private life. Forget the now tired political spin that, if one does not support warrant-less spying, then one may be a bosom buddy of Osama Bin Laden.

Byrd on C-Span

Cue wingnut LBH to sputter, "But, but, but...KKK!" 5, 4, 3...

GOOOOO Byrd.
SHOUT IT ACROSS THE ROOFTOPS.
LOUDER
LOUDER!
LOUDER!!!!

I certainly appreciate and agree, for the most part, with Byrd's rhetoric. But I would make correction: he shouldn't "plead with the American public to tune-in to what is happening in this country;" he should be pleading with the Democratic weaklings in the Senate to fight against the Bush administration's puch for dictatorship. It is their hesitancy (e.g. Daschle and Harman on Meet the Press) that will doom any investigation of these illegal spying programs. All of the polls indicate that Americans are ready for leadership on the issue of illegal domestic spying. It's up to them to do something about it.

Of course, that's push, not "puch," in my last post.

Of course, it could be "putsch," but let's not get all Godwin's Law here...

p.s. Senator Feingold is persuing a filibuster against the sneak and peek provisions of the Patriot Act.

Feingold continues to stand tall.

Please do not feel sorry for Chainy! He is a cold-blooded murderer. If you have doubts, take a look at Iraq and all the murders committed by the Bush regime with complicity on the part of millions od Nazi Americans. I will post some pictures to remind you of cold-blooded murder.

No Bravery

"Cue wingnut LBH to sputter, "But, but, but...KKK!" 5, 4, 3...

Yep, and then 5, 4, 3... Kennedy had a car accident

Guess Who

Batman battles a villain named Osama

In his latest adventure, Batman will dispense with his old enemies, the Riddler and the Joker, and take on Osama bin Laden instead.

In Holy Terror, Batman!, a new graphic novel by the Batman writer Frank Miller, the Caped Crusader will take on al-Qaeda when his home town, Gotham City, which is based on New York, is attacked by terrorists.

"It is, not to put too fine a point on it, a piece of propaganda: Batman kicks al-Qaeda's ass," Mr Miller told a San Francisco comic book convention.

"It just seems silly to chase around the Riddler when you've got al-Qaeda out there."

Holy Terror, Batman! does not have a scheduled publication date. It is unlikely to appear until next year at the earliest, when it will do battle with Messages to the World: The Statements of Osama bin Laden, which has just been released in the US.

In this compendium of all his statements, bin Laden does not name Batman personally, but attacks the US as "the Great Satan" for exporting a culture of pornography and violence.

Telegraph, London

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Add this to the growing list of "terror-ploitation" films, magazines, websites, commercials, etc.

Now Batman too? It just seems creepy to me.

capt

#44,

Yep, so we should just shut up, accept the crimes and support the criminals in our high offices because . . . the other guy did it too! (NOT)

capt

The MSM have written about the Cheney accident aud nauseum the last 4 days. One has to wonder what have they missed, I could make a list. Here are just a few examples

Notice how the tesimonies of Pillar and the others who testified about Cheney's involvement with the outing of Valerie Plame last week have been swept under the rug .

On sunday's "Meet the Press" Phase 2 came out of the closet for just a moment, Senator Pat Roberts was squirming. The media has missed this opportunity completely,helping shove this important investigation right back into the closet just where Douglas Feith and Senator Pat Roberts would like it to stay.

Even Arianna Huffington who wrote up her weekly review of "Meet the Press" completely missed this opportunity, she did not mention Phase 2 in her article. She needs some memory pills of her own. And still the MSM are "sleepwalking" the american people into Iran. While the Bush administration/Bolton has been twisting the "arms" of members of the Un Security Council, and a parallel organization to trump the IAEA'S process in case members to not vote with the U.S., France and the U.K. I have not heard one american reporter ask any serious questions of the Bush administration in regard to these claims about Irans nuclear development.

This obsession with Cheney the last 4 days allows important issues to be swept under the rug or kept in the closet.

Robert #29

"Poor LBH, you have no clue to the trajectory of thought which an inquiring mind may evolve through in the course of a lifetime."

Sorry Robert, but it seems that you are the one that can't follow along. I have no problem with JFK ( he is the oringinal architect of tax cuts to spur the economy).

My comment was in reference to Robert KKK Bird being silent during this time of illegal wiretapping on MLK. After all, you are the one that pointed out that he regretted being the Grand Wizard of the KKK. He should have been the loudest voice of all protesting on the Sen floor about this outrage! Or, maybe he was giddy about an African American being spied on and didn't want anyone to know.

Now, you may impress your friends here with the big words you looked up in the dictionary, but try and focus on what is being said before rambling off the wrong track. Maybe you should cut back on that Hajji punch!!!

Boyd

Now why do you keep bringing old drunk Teddy back from killing his girlfriend and then covering it up? That is such old news.

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#50 Right LBH. Are you saying you don't bring up Kennedy's car accident everyimte he's in the news?

Boyd #50

TRH said to swollow next time and that won't happen.

Boyd #53

Nope, I let other idiots do it for me!!!

The media has no power and it corrupted by money. Looks like there is help on the horizon.

makethenewsbetter.com

Support the Troops

#54 Other idiots? Other than you?

Gerald,

That #45 is HIGH-Larry-US!!

Who is that guy doing Bunnypants? He has him down so well I almost didn't like him!

Thanks

capt

Yeah, keep it up and even greater number of people will have a piss poor attitude about the mainstream media.

And let's not bring up Hillary waiting 30 hours to let Vince Fosters suicide note be passed on to her husband...

Boyd

Do you really want to go down this road, your not very good at it?

"Do you really want to go down this road, your not very good at it?"

Do you really want to go down this road? You're not very good at it.

My Country

Wow, go to images.google.com and look up "Pamela Willeford" (include quotes).

Not a bad score for an overweight, weezing, bald, mumbling old man with the personality of a flat tire.

I think that this is the angle that needs to be probed, by those wanting to bring Cheney down. Let's hope the MSM doesn't "go soft" on this one. Sorry...couldn't resist....

Bob

Boyd

Yyou should think about mortgaging that Mobile Home you own ouright or maybe sell the Ford Escort you own and get some lessons.

You can always tell when they moronbats have lost the argument. They will bring up Clinton, Carter, Kennedy, etc. They might as well bring up "Tea-pot Dome."

I know it is a bear when there are no facts to support the neverending idolation of their messianic, fearless, and all powerful leader.

They do not think they sound ridiculous because they manage to pick an argument with low-brow schoolyard taunts.

Pathetic.

"The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments." ~ Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900), The Gay Science, section 191

OFW - whatever and so what! Who gives a rats behind about others, the issue at hand is about those currently in power and issues that effect us today. The historical discussions of past crimes belongs elsewhere.

I am just one guy with one opinion but is seems like a giant waste of time and type.

Why not post about something instead of about some piffle post? (makes sense to me)

capt

The BS flows endless under our Nazi regime

Republicans Blister White House/DHS Response to Katrina

http://feeds.dailykos.com/dailykos/index?m=2746

5 things the mainstream media ought to be covering with the same zeal as the Cheney accident...

1) Cartoon riots in Pakistan kill three

2) Jordan sentences Zarqawi and 8 militants to death

3) Baghdad bomb kills children walking to school

4) Dow back above 11,000; Index up 136 points as oil falls below $60

5) Econ helps Dow overtake 11,000

via http://tammybruce.com/archives/2006/02/what_the_msm_is.php

Cheney under fire as victim worsens

While most legal experts agreed the chances of Mr Cheney facing charges were slim, some lawyers suggested Mr Cheney's case deserves serious consideration by Texas prosecutors. Randy Wilson, the president of the Texas Criminal Defence Lawyers Association, told The Wall Street Journal that the easiest case to prove against Mr Cheney was a charge of "reckless endangerment".

"Probably nothing will come of it, but if I was a prosecutor, I would file charges," he said.

But as Mr Whittington lay in intensive care, with the possibility his health could deteriorate, the avalanche of jokes —†on television, in newspapers, on the net —†gave way to a sense that Mr Cheney's handling of the incident had damaged him and the Bush Administration.

Republican Party officials are saying they cannot understand why Mr Cheney's office —†and Mr Cheney —†did not immediately report the shooting to Mr Bush.

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I get a childlike satisfaction when I read from Australia or Asian countries that have posted with tomorrow’≥ date. It is reading tomorrow’≥ news.

capt

ìYyou should think about mortgaging that Mobile Home you own ouright or maybe sell the Ford Escort you own and get some lessons.î

Yyou sshould llearn tto sspell ouright.

Capt

You're absolutely right, lets talk about the Saddam tapes that will be aired tonight on Nightline that dispute your crazy claim that Bush lied about WMD. Lets also talk about the two top Iraqi military officials that have recently stated Saddam had WMD, moved them to Syria and had ties to Osama? What the hell, lets get serious?

Boyd

Isn't it your nap time yet? Now go to your basement and be quiet!!!

Republicans Criticize Bush Mideast Policy

Republicans Criticize the Bush Administration's Policy in the Middle East

WASHINGTON Feb 15, 2006 (AP)—†Republican senators criticized the Bush administration Wednesday over its policies in Iraq, Iran and the Palestinian territories, as Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's first testimony on Capitol Hill in months exposed her to a tough grilling from some members of her own party.

"I don't see, Madame Secretary, how things are getting better. I think things are getting worse. I think they're getting worse in Iraq. I think they're getting worse in Iran," Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., told Rice as she appeared before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Rice also had a tense exchange with moderate Republican Sen. Lincoln Chafee, R-R.I., over the pace of progress toward Israeli-Palestinian peace and the implications of the Hamas victory in Palestinian legislative elections last month.

More HERE

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Republicans not in lock-step with the failed policies and ongoing screw-ups this misadministration calls diplomacy?

I wonder how many hunting invites are in the works?

capt

Pamela Willeford is a very attractive woman but Lynn Chainy is no dog either. If Lynn Chainy was my woman, I would have to put a muzzle on her mouth.

So Dick Cheney is admitting he had a beer beer before he shot a 78 year old man in the face? Sounds like he's doing damage control from the MSNBC scrub of yesterday. Neil Cavuto and the other concern trolls over at Fox are now discussing "Politicizing Hunting Accident: Big Mistake For Democrats?"

We must be on the right track.

Regarding the "beer at lunch" comment, this from police officer Michael Embly:

One lie I can always spot is "two beers." When I hear that from a driver that I've stopped for erratic driving, then I know that I've hit the jackpot. I don't know why 90% of drunk drivers say they've had two beers. It's like there is some sort of genetic code that dictates this answer. They could say they've had two glasses of wine or one martini but they rarely do. I don't mind though because it just makes my job easier.

The bottom line: the Vice President of the United States thinks it's okay to drink and then pick up a gun -- resulting in a serious injury to an old man -- and then not tell the country about it for four days.

http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/2006_02_12_firedoglake_archive.html#114003396926516939

LBH:

...lets talk about the Saddam tapes

Well, I'll let Charles Duelfer talk about them:

Charles Duelfer, who led the official U.S. search for weapons of mass destruction after the war, says the tapes show extensive deception but don't prove that weapons were still hidden in Iraq at the time of the U.S.-led war in 2003.

The tapes are from 1995. Old news, dude. But don't let that stop you; I know you're probably getting paid by the post.

#64 Yyou should think about mortgaging that Mobile Home...

#72 Isn't it your nap time yet? Now go to your basement and be quiet!!!

Basement... in a mobile home?

WMD Pipeline from Iraq to Syria?

Georges Hormuz Sada, a former high-ranking official in Saddam Hussein's Iraqi air force, claims that "Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in [sic] which the passenger seats were removed," reported the January 26 New York Sun.

Sada doesn’t claim to be an eyewitness, insisting that he was told of the transfer by Iraqi airline pilots who supposedly flew 56 missions to deliver chemical weapons to Syria. "I know them well," Sada told the paper. "They are very good friends of mine. We trust each other. We are friends as pilots." The anonymous pilots purportedly claimed that two Iraqi Airways Boeing jets were "converted to cargo planes by removing the seats," after which special Republican Guard brigades loaded what were described as "yellow barrels with skull and crossbones on each barrel."

Of course, the only way to validate or falsify Sada’s claim would be to invade and occupy Syria. Should the chemical weapons then fail to materialize, would another "witness" appear, solemnly attesting that they have been transferred to Sudan, or Lebanon, or Egypt, or Saudi Arabia, or perhaps even to France — that is, to some other country on the neo-conservative hit list?

Gen. Sada, whose book Saddam’s Secrets was published on December 27, has been described by USAF Lt. Col. David Eberly (a former Gulf War POW) as "an honest and honorable man." While this may be true, Sada has a bad habit of turning up in odious company.

Sada has long served as a "personal adviser" to former Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi, who worked for many years as an assassin for the Ba’ath Party before having a falling-out with Saddam. Former CIA officer Vincent Cannistraro told The New Yorker that Allawi "has blood on his hands.... He was a paid Mukhabarat [secret police] agent for the Iraqis, and he was involved in dirty stuff."

Allawi has been accused of involvement in a 1970s-era "hit team" that assassinated Ba’ath Party opponents in Europe. After Allawi left the Mukhabarat’s employ in 1975, his contract was picked up by British Intelligence. In 1992 he was hired by the CIA, which sluiced millions of dollars into his Iraqi National Accord (INA).

The London Spectator reports that the INA was involved in what could "only be termed terrorism against civilians. In 1994 and 1995 a series of bombings at cinemas, mosques and other public places in Baghdad claimed up to 100 civilian lives." Just days before being installed by the Bush administration as Iraqi Prime Minister, Allawi personally executed as many as six handcuffed and blindfolded prisoners, according to two eyewitnesses interviewed by the Sydney Morning Herald.

The plausibility of Sada’s account, such as it is, rests on his credentials as a judge of character. His willingness to act as a press spokesman for an "ex"-Ba’ath Party assassin and terrorist would seem to impeach his credibility as a character witness.

Sada’s "revelations" led to a State Department-organized meeting of the "Syrian National Council," a motley assortment of what the Sun described as "communists, Baathists, and members of the [terrorist] Islamist Muslim Brotherhood," among others opposed to the current Syrian regime.

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I am SURE you cannot possibly be talking about Sada?

You cannot be that stupid or that easily sold a load of crud from the echo chambers?

The guy has less credibility than Curveball?

Tell me you have something other than the BS Sada has been spewing?

(crickets chirping)

Take a few hours and find me something other than this proven liar. I will check back.

capt

Boyd,

Please use tinyurl.com to convert those long URL's you push the ad's off the screen for all viewers when you do not.

If you would like some help learning to hyper-link drop me a line, my address is real.

Thanks

capt

At 78 Whittington's age is a factor in that his health could deteriorate further. Bouncing back from health problems at a certain age is more difficult as we grow older.

I wonder if the NRA is praising Chainy as a champion outdoorsman with a gun?

http://tinyurl.com/d8j7g

Thanks Cap!

"At 78 Whittington's age is a factor in that his health could deteriorate further."

That is why I do feel badly for Dick. He likely killed the guy, now of months from now he surely took a few of the mans last years.

Very sad for all concerned.

capt

Don

Again, you seem to be loose with the facts. Charles Duefler never listened to the tapes. The tapes were found in 1995 but have only recently been translated, authenticated and being currently reviewed by the US House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Now the the reference you make to the tapes being of deception was Dueflers remark about current reports that were discovered at the time and translated, not the tapes.

The NY Sun is reporting these tapes as the "smoking gun" of WMD in Iraq.

Don, you may want to actually watch the show before trying to comment incorrectly on this subject.

Capt

I think the chemical weapons (WMD) used in Jordan by Osama was proof enough for Sada's crediblity to stand. The chemical weapons have been traced from Syria with links to Iraq.

Does anyone know who the comedian is in Geralds #45 post?

I cannot tell who or I have never seen him before.

The guy could do Bunnypants' speeches for him, I doubt the Dummypants supporters would know the difference.

capt

Your spew sounds good but I cannot help but notice it is just spew?

How about a link to anything? I cannot take you at your word, you have not developed a reputation for anything here except petty insults and mobile home humor.

Provide us all with the crud you claim or ??

"You can't build a reputation on what you are going to do." ~ Henry Ford

Take your time, I am not going anywhere.

Time to put up or . . .

capt

This is getting WAY TOO EASY...

Was Cheney chasing QUAIL, or was Cheney chasing TAIL?

Bob

And I disagree that we, as a nation, should drop this, and discuss more serious matters. Whatever it takes to discredit these evil people, and get them out of office...I say go for it.

Iraq Arming Troops With Chemical Weapons

WASHINGTON — Iraqi troops south of Baghdad are armed with chemical weapons, Fox News has learned.

Senior Defense and other U.S. officials confirmed that intelligence reports indicate that Saddam Hussein's troops are armed with chemical munitions.

"The information is raw … and hard to confirm ... but we are seeing -- using different methods -- that Saddam Hussein has armed troops south of Baghdad with chemical weapons," one official said.

Officials say it's hard to tell how many of these weapons are being distributed, but the intelligence reports indicate that "some chemical shells" have been provided to troops.

Senior Defense officials say they expected the Iraqis to use these weapons, and they predict more movement by Iraqi troops in the South and the West in the next day or so.

Iraqi troops along the Kuwaiti border far to the south are in shooting distance of U.S. troops stationed there -- but the troops with the chemical shells are further north -- still in the southern no-fly zone, but south of Baghdad.

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Here, I will even help the hapless troll: Monday, March 17, 2003

Whoop’s was not true, it was fabricated, it was a lie.

Anything yet?

capt

Syria switches from dollars to euros

DAMASCUS, Syria -- Syria has switched the primary hard currency it uses for foreign goods and services from the U.S. dollar to the euro in a bid to make it less vulnerable to pressure from Washington.

The decree signed by Syrian Prime Minister Naji al-Otari on Monday ordered government bodies and public-sector companies to use euros to pay for foreign transactions, including payment for exports.

The head of the state-run Commercial Bank of Syria, Dureid Dergham, was quoted as saying Tuesday that the switch to euros was "important and necessary in light of the current U.S. threats against Syria, and the ensuing complications in banking procedures and transfer operations to Syria from U.S. and European banks."

"The step aims at avoiding any future disturbances," Dergham told the state newspaper Al-Thawra. Dergham was not available for comment Tuesday.

U.S.-Syria relations have been poor for years over Damascus' support for Palestinian militant groups and Hezbollah, and U.S. allegations - denied by Syria - that its government was assisting the insurgency in Iraq and pursuing weapons of mass destruction.

Relations worsened after the former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri was assassinated a year ago in Beirut. U.S. Ambassador Margaret Scobey was recalled shortly after the killing, which many Lebanese blamed on Syria.

A U.N. commission investigating the assassination has implicated top Syrian security officials and accused Damascus of trying to obstruct the probe.

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WAIT A MINUTE! I found them, the WMD's in Syria - they call 'em Euro's! HA!

Makes way more sense than second hand hearsay from a proven liar that has an agenda.

You neocreeps will believe ANYTHING if it meets your delusions.

capt

#84

LBH said, "I THINK the chemical weapons used in Jordan..."

Has ANYONE on this site given you ANY indication that what you think has ANY credibility?

How many times are you going to believe Lucy and have that football snatched from your foot kicking in the air Charlie Brown?

The President never lied, eh?

How about this:

THE PRESIDENT: We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories. You remember when Colin Powell stood up in front of the world, and he said, Iraq has got laboratories, mobile labs to build biological weapons. They're illegal. They're against the United Nations resolutions, and we've so far discovered two. And we'll find more weapons as time goes on. But for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them.

******

Click on the text it will take you to this WH? May 29, 2003?

capt

Can you direct me to even those two Mr. Preznit?

Oh, they were not what you claimed? That would be another lie, eh?

*******

I thought you wanted to get serious?

I know it makes your head hurt because it is WAY harder to think than to just believe. By only believing you will have fewer recognized conflicts with reality. Reality is for the thinkers, so get serious yourself.

capt

That troll isnt here to prove any point, just harrassment, bought and paid for by the 4th reich.

THE PRESIDENT: "Even knowing what I know today about the stockpiles of weapons, I still would have called upon the world to deal with Saddam Hussein."

Hard to claim any vindication when Bunnypants says the non-existent stockpiles did not matter.

That is if you can take HIS word for it? (very hard for most Americans)

capt

Capt #86

I default to your own advise "Try reading a book once in awhile"

Ode to LBH

"I THINK"

I think the WMDs were moved to Syria.
I think some of them were discharged in Jordan.
I think Jordan kept the incident out of the news.
I think what I want to believe.

This is from Larisa at Raw STory new article about the outing of Valerie Plame.

"Speaking under strict confidentiality, intelligence officials revealed heretofore unreported elements of Plame's work. Their accounts suggest that Plame's outing was more serious than has previously been reported and carries grave implications for U.S. national security and its ability to monitor Iran's burgeoning nuclear program.
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While many have speculated that Plame was involved in monitoring the nuclear proliferation black market, specifically the proliferation activities of Pakistan's nuclear "father," A.Q. Khan, intelligence sources say that her team provided only minimal support in that area, focusing almost entirely on Iran.I keep wondering how Larisa's new story at Raw Story can be used to support sanctions or military action against Iran."

The question I have posed to Larisa ( I think she is one of the more persistent and serious reporters in the media) is. How can the public trust all of the "anonymous officials' in Larisa's articles any more than the anonymous sources that claimed WMD's in Judy Millers stories in the New York Times.

I had read some time ago that one of the possible reasons for Valerie Plames outing were Douglas Feith's , Richard Perle's and James Woolseys involvement with illegal weapons being sold to Turkey. That Plame was involved with following those arms sales, that there was a good chance that their involvement was going to be exposed. That these characters had wanted her outed.

Now we have Larisa telling us that Plame was outed because of her work following weapons movement in regard to Iran. maybe it's both. But it seems that this new revelation/possibility could be so easily used to argue that now we really need to take military action against Iran, due to our inability to monitor Iran's actions.

ALL OF THESE ANONYMOUS SOURCES HOW CAN ANYONE KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THESE CLAIMS BEING MADE???

MY OTHER QUESTION IS...WHY NOT ALLOW IAEA EL BARADEI MAKE THESE DETERMINATIONS ABOUT IRAN...NOT THE VERY FOLKS WHO LIED US INTO IRAQ.

Cheney say's on faux news "the image of him falling is something i'll never be able to get out of my mind.......I fired and there's Harry falling, I'd have to say it was one of the worst days of my life at that moment". Maybe he understands what images many of the 200,000+ troops (he and his buddies sent to Iraq)have to live with for the rest of there lives. This man is an embarrasment to our country. Can you imagine if John Kerry would of shot someone in his 2004 photo-op hunting trip. The "liberal" media would have deemed it the end of civilisation as we know it.

#95 "I default to your own advise"

You mean, "defer" right?

Boyd

Do you honestly expect me to believe that you make $169,000 a year and own your home and cars with no loans with those juvenile comebacks? What are you, 12?

Cartoon riots in Pakistan kill three

PESHAWAR, Pakistan - Gunfire and rioting erupted Wednesday as tens of thousands of people took to the streets in Pakistan's third straight day of violent protests over the Prophet Muhammad cartoons. Three people were killed, including an 8-year-old boy.

The European Union condemned both the cartoons, first printed in a Danish newspaper in September, and what it called "systematic incitement to violence" against European diplomatic missions by some unidentified governments.

At least 19 people have died in demonstrations and violence this month related to the drawings, according to an Associated Press count. Eleven have died in Afghanistan, five in Pakistan and one each in Kenya, Lebanon and Somalia.

Pakistani intelligence officials have said members of outlawed Islamic militant groups have joined the protests, and may be inciting violence to undermine the government of President Gen. Pervez Musharraf.

Rioting also broke out Wednesday near the South Waziristan tribal region, where security officials have said foreign fighters linked to al-Qaida are hiding.

A senior police official said they were investigating whether the rioting was planned. He said the main spark for the violence in the northwestern city of Peshawar appeared to be riots Tuesday in Lahore, where two people were killed.

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I have studied a little bit about religions and from what I know of Islam - this is not what the prophet Mohammed intended.

It is another cartoon? What next start a riot over a bad joke, a misplaced word, an intentional insult?

This is not about the cartoon any more than it is about religion. These riots and the fomenting of hatred is clearly intentional and is a symptom not a cause. We need to fix the cause. How quickly can a president be impeached, I fear we are way too late already.

Slim Pickens riding an ICBM is not even comical as the YA HOO is too accurate, metaphorically that is.

capt

Point me at the book or passage that supports a single thing you have posted?

I pointed you to references, not my opinion but that which supports and validates my conclusions.

Too hard for you? Way easier to say "read a book?" and I thought you wanted to get serious?

Jeeze, that is a serious let down.

Thanks anyway

capt

You may return to your mobile home humor, that defines you better than answering any call to get serious.

Carry on.

capt

Capt

Capt say's don't worry I'm not going anywhere.

You see capt this is the problem with you Cornnuts, you have nowhere to go!

#100

First, I don't care what you beleive. That's your problem.

If you read my post, you'd know I said 196K not 169 and that was in 2000. I make less than that now.

LBH:
Liberal
Bashing
Headcase

Capt

A little testicle aren't ya!! MAYBE, TRH WAS RIGHT ABOUT YOU AFTER ALL!!

LBH:
Literally
Believes
Hannity

Hamas set to name Cabinet before Israeli vote

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - The militant group Hamas said Wednesday it will put together the next Palestinian government by early March —†timing that could help Israeli hawks in parliamentary elections.

Hamas officials said the group would stack top government positions with its own people, a move that could trigger an Israeli boycott of the Palestinian Authority. On Wednesday, Hamas nominated three members for senior legislative posts, including parliament speaker.

Hamas, which calls for the elimination of Israel, trounced Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas’†Fatah Party in legislative elections last month. With a solid majority in the incoming parliament, Hamas is poised to form a Cabinet in the coming weeks, severely impeding Abbas’†ability to pursue peace talks with Israel. The new parliament holds its first session Saturday.

More HERE

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Again with the month of March? Those of you paying attention have more than one reason to wonder, eh?

"He who wonders discovers that this in itself is wonder." ~ M. C. Escher (1898 - 1972)

capt

LBH:

Lot's of
Bullshit and
Hubris

Uncledad

Hey, I like that. I will allow you to you that from now on. Thats as serious as I'm gonna get with with you lefties today. Boyd go count those 196,000 pennies.

Basra Cuts Ties With Britain Over Abuse

BASRA, Iraq - Anger over the alleged abuse of Iraqis by British forces prompted Basra Provincial Council to sever relations with the British on Tuesday, while two purported victims demanded compensation from London.

The council governing Basra province, which neighbors Maysan province where the alleged 2004 abuses in the city of Amarah occurred, announced all government authorities suspended ties with the British military and consulate operating in the area.

Basra council also demanded the 530-member Danish contingent withdraw from southern Iraq unless the Danish government apologizes for the caricatures of Prophet Muhammad deemed insulting by Muslims which appeared in Danish and other newspapers. Danish Defense Minister Soeren Gade rejected the demands.

The outrage over the alleged British abuse and prophet cartoons has damaged relations with U.S.-led coalition forces at a time when foreign governments are either intending or trying to withdraw their troops from Iraq.

"All governmental offices will cut all kinds of relations with the British forces and they will not cooperate with them until further notice," Basra council said in a statement.

Basra council official Nadhim al-Jabiri said the decision includes ending cooperation with the British consulate in Basra.

Basra police chief Maj. Gen. Hassan Suwadi said all Iraqi security forces would stop conducting joint-patrols with the British military in the entire province as a result of the alleged Amarah abuses.

"We condemn the abuse of the British forces and demand the British government to adopt legal procedures as soon as possible to punish its soldiers who carried out the abuse," Suwadi told The Associated Press.

More than 1,000 demonstrators, including local council members and supporters of radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, marched on the British consulate in Basra, burned the British flag and condemned the alleged British abuses of Amarah males.

Protesters held banners reading "No, no to Tony Blair" and "Try the British soldiers involved in this aggression."

More HERE

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I posted about this before but I think this is part and parcel to a larger movement. Imagine the elected government asks us to get out? Maybe just in sections but what happens if they want to give us the boot? You can bet they will as soon as they think they can.

Keep in mind this area was one of the better areas and the Brit's were getting along well.

How many years would any of us live under occupation before we would say enough?

capt

Ohh no he's leaving, how will we have serious discussions without him, please don't leave, please stay?

uncleandad
#111

Wooo sorry for the typo's, I was drinkin a beer with Cheney and a Cornnut flew overhead.

I have a profile of TRH: He's a sixth year sophomore at a two-year community college majoring in communications.

Jay

I agree 100% with the TRH comment, but don't leave out Capt, Robert, Den, Boyd, Don and all the rest of the class of 2020.

#74 - If Lynn Cheney was "YOUR" woman? Like women are property to do with as you please such as whether to muzzle or not to muzzle? We are not dogs to be muzzled!

You are showing your generation's sexist attitude, dude!

#111 "Boyd go count those 196,000 pennies"

Poor LBH, he's as dumb as a doorknob. Given his stature and preeminence as an enormously successful businessman, one would have reason to expect he'd know $196,000 is 19,600,000 pennies.

US lawmakers scold tech companies for China censorship

Members of the U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday ripped into four U.S. technology companies, calling them a "disgrace" for allowing the Chinese government to censor some Web content.

Representative Tom Lantos and other members of the House International Relations Committee criticized Google Inc., Yahoo Inc., Microsoft Corp. and Cisco Systems Inc. for making profits a higher priority than free expression in China.

"Instead of using their power and creativity to bring openness and free speech to China, they have caved into Beijing’≥ outrageous, but predictable, demands simply for the sake of profits," said Lantos, a California Democrat. "These captains of industry should have been developing new technologies to bypass the sickening censorship of government and repugnant barriers to the Internet. Instead, they enthusiastically volunteered for the Chinese censorship brigade."

Representatives of the four companies said they object to the Chinese government’≥ censorship efforts, but they believe their presence in the communist nation will help broaden the political debate there. Lawmakers criticized Yahoo because subsidiary Yahoo Holdings (Hong Kong) Ltd. provided e-mail account information to the Chinese government that led to jail sentences for a Chinese political activist and a journalist.

They also lectured Google for offering a censored version of its search engine in China and Microsoft for removing from MSN Spaces a blog written by a Chinese journalist. Committee members also questioned whether Cisco is helping the Chinese government block access to some Web sites by selling it network management equipment.

More HERE

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Well, if the lawmakers scolded them then that is the best defense we can muster for freedom of information?

We should not be a party to censorship of any kind if we really believe in freedom of expression. The internet is not a movie theater where someone can yell FIRE. The Internet is a place where people can search for anything so they are making an inquiry. No website will even move the Chinese people to revolt unless they searched for such a site.

We seem to always have words about freedom but we are hypocrites if we do not stand for those words. If the words are too lofty then let there be a discussion on why we have our brave and best warriors dying for those very words in a foreign land?

They "scolded them" I for one am embarrassed.

capt

Boyd

I got to hand it to ya Boyd, you're a persistent litter bugar. Even after an ass whoopin you still keep comin back for more. Now, this is the last time that I am going to correct you (you have cost me enough money already today) 196,000 pennies= $1960.00, this would be more in line with what a cornnut really makes. Now piss-off!!!

74 "Pamela Willeford is a very attractive woman but Lynn Chainy is no dog either. If Lynn Chainy was my woman, I would have to put a muzzle on her mouth."

Progressive thinkers typically don't believe in putting muzzles on anyone, nevermind their own wives. ...But that Pamela Willeford, I'd like to spend an evening with her dressed in a lacey see-through teddy with her hair up... (the teddy's for her - not me!)

OK, so LBH comes in here to fight with the posters at this site who are obviously against GWB and the current administration's crimes against this country (remember, the main objective of this site is to point out the lies and misdeeds of GWB and Co.)and he tells someone else to piss off?

How hypocritical. And btw, my household income is in the six figures, thank you very much!

Oh, and I have never witnessed an "ass whoopin" from you on this site. You are delusional if you think you have replied to anything that has been posted on this site that even remotely can be seen as an "ass whoopin"

#120 "...persistent litter bugar."

"Bugger" is someone who engages in sodomy. Sound familiar?

What's Bugar?

Lynn Chainy is a woman who spews hatred from her mouth. Her hateful words detract from her attractive qualities as a woman.

Sorry Boyd, I couldn't help myself - not that you couldn't have put him in his place yourself.

I always thought that a bugar is a rolled up snot.

Gerald,

That may be true, that she spews hatred, but you are ignoring the fact that you used 'your woman" in the possesive sense. You were implying that by virtue of marriage, the woman is now the property of the husband and that you would have the right to "muzzle" her if she spoke contrary to your beliefs.

That is called slavery.

People could say the same thing about me because I say how much I hate GWB and that I hate what the Republian Party is doing to this country (with the Democrats permission). Would my husband have the right to "muzzle" me if he was a Republican and thought I was spewing hate? No, that would be wrong.

Think about it.

James 10, do you really think cheney is capable of bad feelings? Somehow I doubt it. When I look at him I see a screaming demon behind that heinous facade.
micki, it COULD be done, like so many other opportunities that have come and gone, but it won't.
LBH is a disgusting pig. Why is anyone responding to such a jerk? He just keeps coming back with worse and worse comments.
I give this cheney fiasco a week, then we'll have something new and improved to distract us with. If the guy dies, two weeks.

The Rules of the Game

Considered one of the greatest films of all time, "Rules of the Game" is an indictment of the upper class by Jean Renoir. The film juxtaposes the super affluent against their "inferiors," their servants, and ends up showing the only difference between them is in how they view life. The rich are heartless in their inability to even understand the basic value of life....

The most amazing aspect of the film is Renoir's use of game hunting to visualize his feelings toward the wealthy.

The film is mainly set at a party at a country estate... many think some guests are having an affair....the rich consider love much like the hunt, and both "games" (love and hunting) have set "rules" which must be adhered to.

"Rules of the Game" was released on the eve of World War II. It signified the end of an era... these characters were a "vanishing breed."

Things would soon change.

Bust Big Radio Payola

Giant record labels are paying off radio conglomerates to play their music. This practice is called payola and it's illegal.

The airwaves belong to the public -- not the big media companies with the fattest wallets. Any broadcaster in violation of payola statutes should face severe FCC sanctions and even the loss of their broadcast licenses.

But the FCC won't act unless they feel pressure from you. Take action today.

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Keyboard activism at freepress.

capt

Has anyone heard the saying, "Don't flick your bugars?"

Flan

I really don't care how much money you make or Boyd for that matter(he's the one who had to let everyone know how much he makes). If you do really make that much then why won't you help out your fellow corn posters Micki and Kathleen who can't pay her heating bill? Selfish lefties you are!!

Also, I wasn't talking to you, was I? Just like a nosey little beeeitch. Now if you are good looking I might give you an ass whoopin. but if you're an ugly cornnut, I'll leave that to Boyd.

Putting a muzzle on a person's mouth is a figure of speech. Similar to the saying of keeping a person on a short leash!

Gerald

You got man, Boyd is the crap you just blew out your nose. Thanks for explaining that to him, I don't seem to be getting through to him, no nap today for Boydy.

BOB IS GOING TO PREDICT THE FUTURE...

This story has legs, and hasn't even BEGUN to walk...

As one writer has already called the whole sordid affair...."Cheney's Chappaquiddick." Nobody has died (yet), but lies, cover-ups, and rumors of sexual intrigue will keep this story alive for at least another couple weeks.

Write it on the wall,

Bob

The actual saying is, "Don't flick your bugars in public."

Don't have time to Shoot the Birds w/you on this Trip but here is something (Redacted) that explains the economy the LEFT 40% of Americans lives in:

FORBES:
Fourty percent of Americans feel certain we are in a recession! Pollsters over the last 18 months have discovered these remarkably consistent sentiments about the American economy Truly remarkable when you consider that:

1. The U.S. economy has grown at 3.5%+ during this period
2. Unemployment has dropped well below the post WWII average of 5.5%. It is now below 5.0%.
3. Mortgage rates remain at near 40-year lows
4. Home ownership is at record levels
5. Consumer spending shows no signs of abating.

I think two additional factors have caused Americans to feel crappy about their economy.

1. Business press coverage, in newspapers and on TV, that gives much play to the problems of iconic American companies such as General Motors, Ford, and United Airlines . . . and not enough play to the country’≥ small, dynamic and mostly privately held companies that create 80% of the new jobs.

2. Obsessive press coverage on the Twin deficits of fiscal and trade. It is true that the fiscal deficit, pegged by the OMB at $427 billion in 2005, was the highest ever recorded. But it is also true that this figure, as a percentage of American GDP, came to 3.5%, or lower than in 2004. In fact, last year's deficit-to-GDP ratio ran about in the middle of where U.S. fiscal deficits-to-GDP ratios have run during the last 25 years. Based on the last two months, during which the U.S. ran a fiscal surplus, the budget deficit for 2006 could go below $300 billion, making it one of the lowest ratios-to-GDP seen in recent history. Do you ever read about this? . . . As for the meaningless trade deficit, you know how we feel about that. This is a completely irrelevant number, as irrelevant as the Trade deficit that you run with your grocer or barber.

Rich Karlgaard
February 15, 2006 |

Flan, Jump in anytime the spirit moves you. It's nice to have friends in a rock fight.

Gerald. I can't find bugar in the dictionary. "Snot" is in there. Bugger, as in sodomite is in there. But no "Bugar" and no synonym for "snot" that is spelled like "buger" I did find "Boogers," slang for snot.

Here is some halftime humor

LBH,

Yeah, well, I am talking to you! You were the one who implied that the regular posters to this site, the "lefties" don't make uch money. I was just proving you wrong. I do my part, giving money to various charities, volunteering at the YMCA and at a local Women's shelter. All you can do is thumb your nose at others.

YOU can piss off! Asshole!

Boyd

You need all the friends you can get, specially after TRH bailed ship on ya. Good luck, and good night!

LBH,

Thank god you are still here. You add so much to the discussion?

Boyd, you have the correct spelling of the word, boogers. Bugar would be an unknown factor, I guess.

LBH,

At least boyd has the courtesy of respecting my request to keep me out of your arguments. Can't say the same for you.

Flan

Look who's pissy now!! Be a good cornnut and throw a bone to Corky, the poor bastard has been down on his luck and all you can do is rub in his face how much money you make. Shame, shame, shame on you!!!

Now- good night!!

Ass-whoopin #2

TRH

I will keep you out when you do the same for me.

Now good night, damnit!!

LBH, I respect TRH. He's constructive in his arguments and honest. You come in hear and piss on everything. It's time for you to go home and be annoying to your family.

Boogar, green and slimy, just like Dead eye Dick's face on Saturday evening.

"Pamela Willeford is a very attractive woman but Lynn Chainy is no dog either. If Lynn Chainy was my woman, I would have to put a muzzle on her mouth."

No, Gerald you were not speaking as if you were using a "fgure of speech" by your very own words you were implying that you would control what she could and could not say. Don't try to wiggle out of it.

The thing about a "figure of speech" is that it is filled with the grains of truth. To muzzle someone is to intend to control what that person is allowed to say.

Boyd

You come in "hear"

Um, excuse me, but didn't you just have a hissy fit about my spelling?

#150 Well done LBH. Now, go home and be annoying to your family.

Boyd

It's much more fun being annoying to you!!!

Corky,

If you feel I was rubbing it in (how much my husband and I make) I apologize.

"It's much more fun being annoying to you!!!"
Ah the life of a right wing hack. I will annoy you until you agrre with me?

Fair enough. Let's see how long you can last.

Repeat,

Cheney say's on faux news "the image of him falling is something i'll never be able to get out of my mind.......I fired and there's Harry falling, I'd have to say it was one of the worst days of my life at that moment". Maybe he understands what images many of the 200,000+ troops (he and his buddies sent to Iraq)have to live with for the rest of there lives. This man is an embarrasment to our country. Can you imagine if John Kerry would of shot someone in his 2004 photo-op hunting trip. The "liberal" media would have deemed it the end of civilization as we know it.

I'm not sure Gerald meant more than he would like to be able to muzzle Lynn Cheney.

I understand how the language he chose is offensive to you.

You cannot make someone else understand a point of view, especially if it requires they accept attribution of unseemly motives, but you can, as you have, explain how you interpret their choice of language.

I hate it when LBHers and his ilk can't keep their facts straight. I have NEVER had any trouble paying my heating bill and have never suggested that I have -- in fact, I pay heating bills for others who cannot afford it. My husband and I have been helping to pay heating bills/air conditioning bills for others for years, even though our bills are quite high. We share.

We heat our fully-paid for home with natural gas. I will not divulge our income because LBH might decided to rob us, when he isn't hanging around this blog acting like a big shot.

Oh, PS, fuck off.

One thing is clear. Lbh is not a credible source of information.

In Memoriam

Our dear friend and adversary LBH died last night when the bullet in his head was dislodged as he took off his hat. The stroke was immediate and his death was painless.

His last words were a testament to friends here on www.davidcorn.com, Those f^(%!^& corn-nut, ass-licken, wack-jobs, and then he slumped over, never to take another breath. May he rest in peace.

He was a self-made man. He didn't let his compulsory education get in the way of a successful business career. He cared for the world around him and participated in political discourse.

He was a man of few words and few thoughts. Some of the words were ass-licker, wack job, corn nut, dumbass, and idiot. His thoughts were not as memorable.

He had a strange and adversary relationship with his peers. It was as if all political opinions, in opposition to his own, deserved derision rather than a thoughtful response. If LBH taught us one thing, it is seek first to understand, then to be understood.

Send contributions in lieu of flowers to the Committee to Re-Elect Rick Santorum.

When deja vu is more than just an odd feeling

British researchers are embarking on what they're calling the world's first study of chronic deja vu, a condition where people can recite details of situations or people they've never before encountered.

One retired electrical engineer who complained to his family doctor that he had an awful sensation of deja vu was told to go to a memory clinic.

"He said, 'Well there's no point. I've already been before', " says Dr. Chris Moulin, a psychologist and memory researcher at the University of Leeds.

Except he hadn't.

Another woman stopped playing tennis in the firm, but mistaken, belief she was playing the same rallies over and over again.

Another man insisted he'd already been to his friend's funeral.

The phenomenon, which may affect one in 200 people with memory problems, is unlike the fleeting, eerie feeling people get from time to time that they've experienced something before, and that they know what's going to happen next.

Instead, chronic deja vu sufferers are constantly overcome by the sensation something new has happened before. Depression is common, and some sufferers are initially misdiagnosed with epilepsy or labelled "delusional" and put on anti-psychotic drugs.

Social interactions become impossible, Dr. Moulin says, because people think they've met everyone before, "which means they're overly trusting of people, and possibly inappropriately friendly."

Since word of his study was published last month in a University of Leeds newsletter, Dr. Moulin has been inundated with e-mails from people convinced they have chronic deja vu; one Canadian woman said it described her mother perfectly. Another thought she was going mad until she read the story online.

Dr. Moulin says studying deja vu can help better understand the relationship between feelings and consciousness and states associated with memory and how memory functions.

More HERE if you have not already been there.

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I am absolutely sure I have posted this before, it seems far too familiar to be otherwise.

capt

#161

That poor man. I quess the only good thing is that he was so much more sucsessful than most. We could all learn something from him. How he cared for himself above and before anyone else. He wasn't a burden on society like most of the corn-posting politico's he tried to understand.

Ironic?

Cheney reaction? Girl accidentally shoots boyfriend

By Brad Turner
The Daily Times-Call

Lafayette resident Josh Kayser chuckled Monday afternoon when he read about Vice President Dick Cheney accidentally shooting a friend during a quail hunt over the weekend. A few hours later, paramedics rushed Kayser, 21, to the hospital after his girlfriend accidentally shot him while they were trailing a raccoon. “I read that thing about the vice president and said to myself ‘How can you shoot your friend with your gun?’ And look what happened,” he said Tuesday.
Kayser and his 17-year-old girlfriend spent Monday night hunting raccoons that had been preying on chicken’s on his family’s property on the 2300 block of 95th Street north of Lafayette. At about 9:30 p.m., Kayser crouched down to look under a shed where he thought a wounded raccoon was hiding. His girlfriend, whom police did not identify, crouched down behind Kayser and accidentally shot him with a .22-caliber rifle. He felt blood running down his neck. The bullet entered behind his right ear, came out his chin and lodged in his left forearm.
Paramedics took him to Avista Adventist Hospital, where he spent the night. Doctors opted to leave the bullet in his arm for fear of causing nerve damage if they tried to remove it.
“I feel fine,” Kayser said. “It feels like a cigarette burn.” Doctors discharged Kayser from the hospital at noon Tuesday. Investigators decided not to pursue charges against Kayser’s girlfriend.

Source

The same folks who were willing to investigate a president who lied about a blow job , just do not seem to think that an administration illegally wire tapping the american public needs to be investigated. Go figure

THOSE REPUBLICANS SURE HAVE THEIR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT.

Congressional Probe of NSA Spying Is in Doubt
White House Sways Some GOP Lawmakers

By Charles Babington
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, February 15, 2006; A03

Congress appeared ready to launch an investigation into the Bush administration's warrantless domestic surveillance program last week, but an all-out White House lobbying campaign has dramatically slowed the effort and may kill it, key Republican and Democratic sources said yesterday.

The Senate intelligence committee is scheduled to vote tomorrow on a Democratic-sponsored motion to start an inquiry into the recently revealed program in which the National Security Agency eavesdrops on an undisclosed number of phone calls and e-mails involving U.S. residents without obtaining warrants from a secret court. Two committee Democrats said the panel -- made up of eight Republicans and seven Democrats -- was clearly leaning in favor of the motion last week but now is closely divided and possibly inclined against it.

They attributed the shift to last week's closed briefings given by top administration officials to the full House and Senate intelligence committees, and to private appeals to wavering GOP senators by officials, including Vice President Cheney. "It's been a full-court press," said a top Senate Republican aide who asked to speak only on background -- as did several others for this story -- because of the classified nature of the intelligence committees' work.

Lawmakers cite senators such as Olympia J. Snowe (R-Maine) to illustrate the administration's success in cooling congressional zeal for an investigation. On Dec. 20, she was among two Republicans and two Democrats who signed a letter expressing "our profound concern about recent revelations that the United States Government may have engaged in domestic electronic surveillance without appropriate legal authority." The letter urged the Senate's intelligence and judiciary committees to "jointly undertake an inquiry into the facts and law surrounding these allegations."

In an interview yesterday, Snowe said, "I'm not sure it's going to be essential or necessary" to conduct an inquiry "if we can address the legislative standpoint" that would provide oversight of the surveillance program. "We're learning a lot and we're going to learn more," she said.

She cited last week's briefings before the full House and Senate intelligence committees by Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales and former NSA director Michael V. Hayden.

"The administration has obviously gotten the message that they need to be more forthcoming," Snowe said.

Before the New York Times disclosed the NSA program in mid-December, administration briefings regarding it were highly secret and limited to eight lawmakers: the top Republican and Democratic leader of the House and Senate, respectively, and the top Republican and Democrat on the House and Senate intelligence committees.

The White House characterized last week's closed-door briefings to the full committees as a significant concession and a sign of the administration's respect for Congress and its oversight responsibilities. Many Democrats dismissed the briefings as virtually useless, but senators said yesterday they appear to have played a big role in slowing momentum for an inquiry.

John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), the Senate intelligence committee's vice chairman, has drafted a motion calling for a wide-ranging inquiry into the surveillance program, according to congressional sources who have seen it. Rockefeller declined to be interviewed yesterday.

Sources close to Rockefeller say he is frustrated by what he sees as heavy-handed White House efforts to dissuade Republicans from supporting his measure. They noted that Cheney conducted a Republicans-only meeting on intelligence matters in the Capitol yesterday.

Senate intelligence committee member Mike DeWine (R-Ohio) said in an interview that he supports the NSA program and would oppose a congressional investigation. He said he is drafting legislation that would "specifically authorize this program" by excluding it from the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which established a secret court to consider government requests for wiretap warrants in anti-terrorist investigations.

The administration would be required to brief regularly a small, bipartisan panel drawn from the House and Senate intelligence committees, DeWine said, and the surveillance program would require congressional reauthorization after five years to remain in place.

Snowe said she is inclined to support DeWine's plan. Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.), who also signed the Dec. 20 letter seeking an inquiry, said yesterday that the FISA law should be amended to include the NSA program and to provide for congressional oversight.

As for Rockefeller's bid, Hagel said: "If some kind of inquiry would be beneficial to getting a resolution to this issue, then sure, we should look at it. But if the inquiry is just some kind of a punitive inquiry that really is not focused on finding a way out of this, then I'm not so sure that I would support that."

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#164 Ironic

Good thing they hadn't been drinking? That may have caused some suspicion?

162
When deja vu is more than just an odd feeling

British researchers are embarking on what they're calling the world's first study of chronic deja vu, a condition where people can recite details of situations or people they've never before encountered.

One retired electrical engineer who complained to his family doctor that he had an awful sensation of deja vu was told to go to a memory clinic.

"He said, 'Well there's no point. I've already been before', " says Dr. Chris Moulin, a psychologist and memory researcher at the University of Leeds.

Except he hadn't.

Another woman stopped playing tennis in the firm, but mistaken, belief she was playing the same rallies over and over again.

Another man insisted he'd already been to his friend's funeral.

The phenomenon, which may affect one in 200 people with memory problems, is unlike the fleeting, eerie feeling people get from time to time that they've experienced something before, and that they know what's going to happen next.

Instead, chronic deja vu sufferers are constantly overcome by the sensation something new has happened before. Depression is common, and some sufferers are initially misdiagnosed with epilepsy or labelled "delusional" and put on anti-psychotic drugs.

Social interactions become impossible, Dr. Moulin says, because people think they've met everyone before, "which means they're overly trusting of people, and possibly inappropriately friendly."

Since word of his study was published last month in a University of Leeds newsletter, Dr. Moulin has been inundated with e-mails from people convinced they have chronic deja vu; one Canadian woman said it described her mother perfectly. Another thought she was going mad until she read the story online.

Dr. Moulin says studying deja vu can help better understand the relationship between feelings and consciousness and states associated with memory and how memory functions.

More HERE if you have not already been there.

*****end of clip*****

I am absolutely sure I have posted this before, it seems far too familiar to be otherwise.

capt

Posted by: capt at February 15, 2006 09:10 PM

#166

Did you notice that the boyfriend was 21 and the girlfriend, and the one who had the gun, was 17?
I guess the gals in Colorado are the hunter's and the guys are prey!

Hajji,

Great post! I read that somewhere before!

TRH,

Who wears the muzzle in YOUR house?

-T

I believe Chaney shot Whittington deliberately because Chaney is unhinged - and has been for some time. He flipped and shot his friend and the White House spend a day trying to cover it up.

mphgf,

mphgy mphgymhf fhoomphf!

-T

Boyd #50

"TRH said to swollow (sic) next time and that won't happen."

This is from LBH, this is the creature you are feeding. WHY, WHY, WHY??? Is this little fiend fun to play with? Or has serious discussion run dry? Oh well, whatever, I just get through the thread that much faster. I thought there were important things going on in the world, but LBH seems able to usurp them here.

Since you ask, I am a partner in a mixed marriage. I am consertive, she is a moderate/liberal. I am a claims adjuster, she is an attorney. We do not talk politics with each other, which is fine. We do discuss work, as we are each a valuable asset of information to the other. As for a muzzle, a zipped lip is better. It at least gives you the option to make a fool of yourself if you chose to do so. Sometimes, I just can't help it!

Saladin,

Thanks for pointing that one out. I had missed it. I second your emotion!

Hajji,

#167! I just got it! Jeeze I am as slow as molasses in January! HA!

Good one.

capt

"The provision of the Constitution giving the war-making power to Congress was dictated, as I understand it, by the following reasons. Kings had always been involving and impoverishing their people in wars, pretending generally, if not always, that the good of the people was the object. This, our Convention understood to be the most oppressive of all Kingly oppressions; and they resolved to so frame the Constitution that no one man should hold the power of bringing this oppression upon us." ~ Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)

Well, that was until we elected the accidental dictator to tell us he IS allowed to change the scope of his authority and the constitution is just a GD piece of paper.

capt

"For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents, to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as "internationalists" and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."

David Rockefeller

Kathleen, I would think twice before putting faith into anything a Rockefeller says. As I've pointed out before, what they say and what they do are two different things. But don't take my word for it, just watch.

Jerry Ward, Idaho Democrat
Cheney's Negligence -- Is it a felony?

I am an attorney from Idaho. I heard somebody in the media say something to the effect that if Mr. Whittington died, then there would "possibly" be an investigation, which got me thinking.

My uncle was shot in a hunting accident many years ago, and nearly died. It was clearly an accident, but I believe the shooter was charged (and of course, this occurred in Idaho). My thought was, whether Whittington dies or not, Cheney certainly appears to have been negligent, and arguably reckless. In Idaho we have a statute regarding "reckless endangerment," so I wondered if Texas has a similar charge. Since we have the casemaker library, which covers Texas in addition to other states, I decided to see what I could find.

Lo and behold, Texas Penal Code Title 5, Chapter 22.04(a)(3) makes it an offense for someone to injure an elderly person (over age 65) by an act of recklessness or criminal negligence. Subsection (f) or (g) would make it a "state jail felony."

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If you'd like to see the written law. Go to the pretty blue link. Any bets on whether he'll be charged?

THE AIPAC CONFERENCE COMING UP WILL BE FOCUSED ON IRAN IN EARLY MARCH...THE RADICALS WANT MILITARY ACTION OR SANCTIONS BEFORE THE AIPAC TRIAL IN APRIL......

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.



Rice talks tough on Iran
in special Jewish meeting
By Ron Kampeas
February 15, 2006

WASHINGTON, Feb. 15 (JTA) —†Condoleezza Rice used a meeting with Jewish leaders this week to make one of her toughest statements to date on the use of force to contain Iran’≥ nuclear program.
Ҏo options are off the table, no one is ready for a nuclear Iran, the Iranians must understand that,Ӡthe U.S. secretary of state said Wednesday, according to notes from three people attending the meeting at the State Department. ҁccomplishing that goal is not in their interests. The United States and this president do not have a credibility issue when it comes to the use of force.Ӡ

The reference, made at a private forum with eight Jewish organizational leaders, appeared to be to the U.S. decision in 2003 to lead an invasion of Iraq, despite international opposition.

Comparing the Iraq war and what might happen to Iran is rare for administration officials, who usually go out of their way to say the cases are vastly different because Iran poses far more serious military challenges than Saddam Hussein’≥ Iraq did.

On Tuesday, Iran began enriching uranium, a necessary step in the making of a nuclear bomb, although Iran insists its program is for peaceful purposes. Iran is accelerating its nuclear program and cutting off nuclear inspectors in the wake of a decision this month by the International Atomic Energy Agency, the U.N. nuclear watchdog, to refer Iran to the U.N. Security Council for possible sanctions.

Rice made it clear that any decision to use force was a long way off, and went out of her way to say the United States is considering its actions with due deliberation.

According to participants, she said she opposed sanctions that would harm the Iranian people, such as an oil embargo, or dropping Iran’≥ soccer team from this year’≥ World Cup. Instead, she suggested, one step might be to starve Iran of foreign currency, limiting its ability to withstand the economic blow Western sanctions would bring.

The meeting brought together leaders of Jewish organizations that have been most outspoken about Iran’≥ nuclear ambitions. Western experts say Iran might be at least 10 years away from a bomb, but some Israelis believe the Islamic republic could have a bomb by the end of next year.

Representatives at the meeting included two leaders of the American Jewish Committee; two leaders of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, the pro-Israel lobby; and leaders of the Jewish Institute of National Security Affairs, the United Jewish Communities, the Republican Jewish Coalition and B’Æai B’≤ith International. The American Jewish Congress was also invited, but was unable to send a representative.

Many Jewish organizational leaders were in Israel this week on a mission of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations.

The meeting between Rice and the Jewish leaders had been in the works since January because of concerns ahead of that month’≥ Palestinian legislative elections, according to administration sources. The invitations were sent out last week, after the terrorist group Hamas won a surprise landslide majority in the elections.

Rice took time out of a busy day testifying before the U.S. Congress about her department’≥ budget requests. The Bush administration wants $85 million to assist opponents to the Islamists now ruling Iran.

In her testimony to the Senate, she referred to Iran’≥ decision to enrich uranium, but maintained the administration’≥ standard line —†softer, more ambiguous and stressing diplomacy without mentioning force.

Ҕhe more Iran does the kinds of things that it did today in starting enrichment and reprocessing and therefore defying the international community, the more, I think, you will see people come together around a set of consequences for Iranճ behavior,Ӡshe told senators. җe are in very intense discussions with our colleagues about what that menu might look like, about how that menu might play out over time. I donմ want to get ahead of the diplomacy but we are in those discussions.Ӡ

Speaking with the Jewish leaders, Rice reiterated that the U.S. government would not deal with a Hamas government until it renounces violence and recognizes Israelճ right to exist. She said U.S. assistance would continue through Feb. 18, when Hamas is slated to officially assume its majority in parliament but Ҵhe clock would start tickingӠonce Hamas establishes a government. That could take weeks.

Rice also said U.S.-Palestinian security cooperation posed a conundrum: on the one hand, the Bush administration wanted no ties at all with a Hamas-led government; on the other, pulling out from a program that provides training and non-lethal equipment to Palestinian security forces now would undermine the security gains achieved so far.

Israeli officials have said security improvements under the previous Fatah-led government have helped stem terrorist attacks.




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THE AIPAC CONFERENCE COMING UP WILL BE FOCUSED ON IRAN IN EARLY MARCH...THE RADICALS WANT MILITARY ACTION OR SANCTIONS BEFORE THE AIPAC TRIAL IN APRIL......

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.



Rice talks tough on Iran
in special Jewish meeting
By Ron Kampeas
February 15, 2006

WASHINGTON, Feb. 15 (JTA) —†Condoleezza Rice used a meeting with Jewish leaders this week to make one of her toughest statements to date on the use of force to contain Iran’≥ nuclear program.
Ҏo options are off the table, no one is ready for a nuclear Iran, the Iranians must understand that,Ӡthe U.S. secretary of state said Wednesday, according to notes from three people attending the meeting at the State Department. ҁccomplishing that goal is not in their interests. The United States and this president do not have a credibility issue when it comes to the use of force.Ӡ

The reference, made at a private forum with eight Jewish organizational leaders, appeared to be to the U.S. decision in 2003 to lead an invasion of Iraq, despite international opposition.

Comparing the Iraq war and what might happen to Iran is rare for administration officials, who usually go out of their way to say the cases are vastly different because Iran poses far more serious military challenges than Saddam Hussein’≥ Iraq did.

On Tuesday, Iran began enriching uranium, a necessary step in the making of a nuclear bomb, although Iran insists its program is for peaceful purposes. Iran is accelerating its nuclear program and cutting off nuclear inspectors in the wake of a decision this month by the International Atomic Energy Agency, the U.N. nuclear watchdog, to refer Iran to the U.N. Security Council for possible sanctions.

Rice made it clear that any decision to use force was a long way off, and went out of her way to say the United States is considering its actions with due deliberation.

According to participants, she said she opposed sanctions that would harm the Iranian people, such as an oil embargo, or dropping Iran’≥ soccer team from this year’≥ World Cup. Instead, she suggested, one step might be to starve Iran of foreign currency, limiting its ability to withstand the economic blow Western sanctions would bring.

The meeting brought together leaders of Jewish organizations that have been most outspoken about Iran’≥ nuclear ambitions. Western experts say Iran might be at least 10 years away from a bomb, but some Israelis believe the Islamic republic could have a bomb by the end of next year.

Representatives at the meeting included two leaders of the American Jewish Committee; two leaders of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, the pro-Israel lobby; and leaders of the Jewish Institute of National Security Affairs, the United Jewish Communities, the Republican Jewish Coalition and B’Æai B’≤ith International. The American Jewish Congress was also invited, but was unable to send a representative.

Many Jewish organizational leaders were in Israel this week on a mission of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations.

The meeting between Rice and the Jewish leaders had been in the works since January because of concerns ahead of that month’≥ Palestinian legislative elections, according to administration sources. The invitations were sent out last week, after the terrorist group Hamas won a surprise landslide majority in the elections.

Rice took time out of a busy day testifying before the U.S. Congress about her department’≥ budget requests. The Bush administration wants $85 million to assist opponents to the Islamists now ruling Iran.

In her testimony to the Senate, she referred to Iran’≥ decision to enrich uranium, but maintained the administration’≥ standard line —†softer, more ambiguous and stressing diplomacy without mentioning force.

Ҕhe more Iran does the kinds of things that it did today in starting enrichment and reprocessing and therefore defying the international community, the more, I think, you will see people come together around a set of consequences for Iranճ behavior,Ӡshe told senators. җe are in very intense discussions with our colleagues about what that menu might look like, about how that menu might play out over time. I donմ want to get ahead of the diplomacy but we are in those discussions.Ӡ

Speaking with the Jewish leaders, Rice reiterated that the U.S. government would not deal with a Hamas government until it renounces violence and recognizes Israelճ right to exist. She said U.S. assistance would continue through Feb. 18, when Hamas is slated to officially assume its majority in parliament but Ҵhe clock would start tickingӠonce Hamas establishes a government. That could take weeks.

Rice also said U.S.-Palestinian security cooperation posed a conundrum: on the one hand, the Bush administration wanted no ties at all with a Hamas-led government; on the other, pulling out from a program that provides training and non-lethal equipment to Palestinian security forces now would undermine the security gains achieved so far.

Israeli officials have said security improvements under the previous Fatah-led government have helped stem terrorist attacks.




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NSA Intercept:

obvious terrorist communication intercepted:

As well, I suppose the things that are happening to Brittany and Jessica are pre-ordained. We all love to hate celebrities. It's all part of the ever-expanding entertainment value of our manufactured "royalty." They are simply disposable like any old pair of dirty diapers. There comes a point when they outlive their usefulness and are thrown on the trash heap of former fame with all the other celebrities from days of yore (i.e. I mean who could forget Gary Coleman, Mason Reece, Rodney Allen Rippey and Charo - even though she's sort of found new life on reality t.v.)

It's all so sad, but much too true. They are the poster children for consumerism, in effect advertising all they buy and then when they get too old or not cute anymore they are banished to the land of misfit toys (together with the "Rodney in the Box" a wagon with square wheels and Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer).

Signing off AR

AR:

Well I guess I agree even though know I don't understand. All I know is the Liberal Media is always tearing down everything that we God fearing amerikans hold dear. I mean just look at the latest example. Who of us has not shot a friend of ours in the face? Can't a man have a few beers, go out hunting, and make a mistake or two. So he didn't have an upland bird stamp, big deal, is that against the law? Why do they have to make a federal case out of everything? Vice President Cheney has given so much to this country and what has he asked for in return? (hchcmmmm. Halliburton). I feel so sorry for him, and what the liberal media will surely put him through. He must feel terrible already. I mean he's probably having nightmares at the thought of his friend taking a .28 gauge "peppering" to the face. The same "liberal" media seems to feel sorry for the troops that willfully kill in Iraq. I mean if the troops should get consoling for post traumatic stress, why shouldn't our dear Vice President. Well enough for now, the more I think about these injustices the more dang mad I get. Besides O'Rielly's coming on the t.v. soon, he's the only one that can make sense of all this.

UD

Alan,

If I lived in Texas, I'd vote for him.

Kinky for Governor - Why the Hell Not?

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Condi Rice gets more annoying by the minute. I can't listen to her. I can't take her seriously. How do we expect people in the middle east to listen to her? They REALLY hate her. We've got Bolton the mad man of the UN and Condi who goes into countries and stamps those brand new shoes and demands to have her way. You know, it's reality time, those countries don't have to listen to Condi. Reality time. The Bush administration has lost the respect of the world. People are not listening to them.

What would happen if a super power spoke and no one listened?

Paul Pillar the former Cia Intelligence officer who spilled his side of the story on Valerie Plame and the use of intelligence last week will be on C-SPAN TOMORROW MORNING AT 9:15 A.M......202-737-0002 for democrats 202-737-0001 for republicans

Jeanne I am with you it is tough to listen to Ms. Condi Rice about anything especially with that mushroom cloud hanging over her head.

Mushroom cloud is right. She is a mushroom. Pande, what's the saying?

Poor Mr. Cheney, Larry Johnson just doesn't let anything go. He's such a meany.
Go F**k Yourself America

By Larry Johnson | bio
Is that what our Vice President was thinking? Maybe he figured, "if it was good enough retort for Pat Leahy, it is good enough to tryout on America." What else are we to make of the spectacle over the last few days? The only thing more amazing than Cheney's stonewalling and hiding since flunking his hunter's safety course on Saturday is the shock and surprise being expressed by many in the media, and even Republicans, over the Vice President's audacious behavior. After reading the Washington Post Editorial page today (a bastion of neo-con support), I did a quick check of the Calendar to ensure it was really Valentine's Day and not April 1st. What is it about the last four years that Washington Post editors did not understand?

Neither Mr. Cheney nor the White House gets to pick and choose when to disclose a shooting. Saturday's incident required immediate public disclosure -- a fact so elementary that the failure to act properly is truly disturbing in its implications.

Looking back on past Cheney misdeeds (and the accompanying lack of condemnation by the Post) can't we forgive Cheney for concluding he could pretty much do as he wills? The record is pretty clear:

it is okay for the White House to pick and choose which laws they will abide by (ignore FISA and the Fourth Amendment);
it is okay to pick and choose which intelligence secrets should be leaked (Valerie Plame, good but NSA domestic spying and secret prisons, bad); and
it is okay to pick and choose which intelligence to accept (ignore the intelligence community when it tells you there is no link between Saddam and Bin Laden or that Iraq is not trying to get uranium in Niger);
so what's so wrong with "peppering" a 78 year old man with a shotgun?
Maybe, just maybe, the Post has seen the light and realizes that in America no man (or woman) is above the law. Just because we are a nation at war with Islamic extremism, that does not give the President, the Vice President, or any American carte blanche to decide which laws to uphold and which laws to ignore. Props to the Post for a good first step.
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Give a sociopath an inch and they take a mile.

#183, TRH,

Yeah I'd vote for him too. I've sort of been following his run for Gov. for a year or two. What better state than Texas to try out a "new" kind of Gov. Hey it worked out last time? I have a nice picture of him declaring his candidacy last year. Believe it or not he's for real?

Hajji,

Hide the goat. He may be headed to South Carolina if they make him register!

Mich. Man Sentenced in Sheep Abuse Case

BATTLE CREEK, Mich. (AP) -- A man who pleaded no contest to a sodomy charge involving a sheep says he should not have to register as a sex offender. Jeffrey S. Haynes said the state registry is intended to keep track of people who have committed crimes against humans.

Full Story Here

In Their Own Words: Reading the Iraqi Insurgency

In Iraq, the U.S. fights an enemy it hardly knows. Its descriptions have relied on gross approximations and crude categories (Saddamists, Islamo-fascists and the like) that bear only passing resemblance to reality. This report, based on close analysis of the insurgents' own discourse, reveals relatively few groups, less divided between nationalists and foreign jihadis than assumed, whose strategy and tactics have evolved (in response to U.S. actions and to maximise acceptance by Sunni Arabs), and whose confidence in defeating the occupation is rising. An anti-insurgency approach primarily focused on reducing the insurgents' perceived legitimacy - rather than achieving their military destruction, decapitation and dislocation - is far more likely to succeed.

Failure to sufficiently take into account what the insurgents are saying is puzzling and, from Washington's perspective, counter-productive.

Several important conclusions emerge.

The insurgency increasingly is dominated by a few large groups with sophisticated communications. It no longer is a scattered, erratic, chaotic phenomenon. Groups are well organised, produce regular publications, react rapidly to political developments and appear surprisingly centralised.

There has been gradual convergence around more unified practices and discourse, and predominantly Sunni Arab identity.

Despite recurring contrary reports, there is little sign of willingness by any significant insurgent element to join the political process or negotiate with the U.S.

The groups appear acutely aware of public opinion and increasingly mindful of their image. Fearful of a backlash, they systematically and promptly respond to accusations of moral corruption or blind violence, reject accusations of a sectarian campaign and publicise efforts to protect civilians or compensate their losses. Some gruesome and locally controversial practices - beheading hostages, attacking people going to the polls - have been abandoned.

The insurgency is increasingly optimistic about victory.
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Full 36 page report is available.

"You can't blame [Cheney]. Bush says you can spy on people without warrants, you can torture people, you can hold people without a trial, so Dick Cheney thinks, 'Oh what the hell, I can shoot a few guys.'" --Jay Leno

"I'm surprised Dick Cheney loves to hunt so much. The five times the government tried to give him a gun, he got a deferment." --Jay Leno

"It turns out now that Dick Cheney did not have a license to hunt, and coincidentally, turns out we didn't have a license to go into Iraq." --David Letterman

"Good news, ladies and gentlemen, we have finally located weapons of mass destruction: It's Dick Cheney." --David Letterman

"But here is the sad part -- before the trip Donald Rumsfeld had denied the guy's request for body armor." --David Letterman

"We can't get bin Laden, but we nailed a 78-year-old attorney." --David Letterman

There's a way to force Congress to investigate, even if the Congress refuses: [ Click ]

Ah, shit, the zeitgeist of this neo-totalitarian bushevikian era is that the cultural, moral, and intellectual "tone" is so sick that our chances of recovery/recovering are becoming more limited every single day.

The sheeple just don't give a flying fuck.

Not Halftime anymore:

http://upchucky.com/worship/100-people.html

Constant,
Don't rule out MN.

It's always been my personal belief that the ladies on this blog are a whole lot more sensible than the rest of us. They are trying to steer us back on track; but we keep wandering off.

At the risk of setting of a riot, I'd like to use my Wednesday night funnies to redirect our focus a bit.

The attention that President Cheney has garnered for getting hammered and bagging one of his buddies is spawning a host of annoying side-stories. What did Chimpy know and when did he know it? Gimme a break. We all know that the Humanmushroom will always be kept in the dark and fed shit all day. A couple of drunk Republicans shooting each other is old news. They mastered the routine during the Schiavo, Social Security and Katrina clusterfucks. This is the lawyer that President Fudd should've shot.

In the news, we find that Condi was testilying before congress today. Even the Gentledoofus from RI was being mean to her. She was not amused. Chaffee kept yammering about the stupidity of believing that Democracy would cure the jihadi problem.

I believe it was Barbara Boxer that kept complaining (those pesky Spineless Dems‚Ñ¢) about the Cheney administration's tin ear. She might have hit the nail on the head on that one. (is that supposed to be Recess Bolton?) I suppose that with their crackdown on Whistleblowers, The Reds will soon call for a crackdown on all those pesky Liberals that get drunk, hunt without the proper license and shoot their pals. It wouldn't be the Grand Ol' Hypocrisy Party without it.

And what are the Reds in Congress up to? They are trying to reform the lobbying process in a way that would make it legal for them to take cash straight from the hands of the bribers. It would cut down on red tape by reducing the ungodly number of Republican indictments, trials, convictions and teary-eyed plea bargains.

The Reds in Congress have even given up any pretense of overseeing the lawlessness and idiocy of the Cheney Administration. So long as they continue to receive their copies of Hustler magazine each month (is it monthly? weekly?), Chimpy can tag as many zeroes as he wants to the end of the federal deficit; and the Grand ol' Spending Party couldn't give a flying duck. They sure are awfully good at spending other people's money and sending other people's kids off to die in a war concocted and perpetuated by lies. Idiots, the lot of 'em.

As our oil addiction and short-sighted business planning come back to haunt us, President Cheney's wealthy Petrofreak friends are all giving him the thumbs up. Meanwhile, regular Americans worry about what our appetite for energy is doing to us.

As bipartisan criticism of the Domestic Spying Program amps us, so does the Noise Machine. Weak-minded Serfs (like Giving-up-Your-Liberty-Dad) don't care that the Constitution of the United States is being destroyed before their very eyes.

I thougt it was funny that the head of the ABA was asked if TortureBoy Gonzales had the legal acumen to defend the Cheney Administration's decisions. He just giggled and tried to avoid the question. Pathetic. TortureBoy is obviously in a world beyond his ken.

These items, and many more deserve the full, undivided attention of the press and the frightened sheep (like Pagliacci). LBH is different. An ignoranus like him will never learn.

Boyd, wipe yer feet before you walk away from the computer. When you stomp all over a steaming pile of fly-specked LBH, it can get more than a little messy. Having frequently trampled L'il Bitty Happy and Pags-Happy himself on many occasions, I know the virtue of maintaining clean footgear.

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As a confession of sorts, I must admit that the onliest time that I ever had my feelings hurt on this blog was by a lady. Some dumbass called Micki a "cunt" and I didn't immediately plaster the imbecile. Kaff pointed out that no one jumped in to defend Micki (not that she or any other lady needs a doofus to defend her -- but a show of solidarity was called for). To this day, it is my only regret on this blog.

uncledad,

I am curious about your handle. I hope it is not derived from something one particular individual refers to you as and it be true. I currently reside in KY and there are a lot of insinuations about people in this state (and West By God Virginia) that many can say that to one person and it fits.

BRIT HUME: Thank you for joining us this afternoon, Mr. Vice President.
VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY: Thank you, Brit.

BRIT HUME: I love you.
VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY: Well, it was the worst experience of my life -- what was that?

BRIT HUME: I love your soul, Mr. Vice President.
VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY: I love you, too, Brit. So...

BRIT HUME: Tell us about Saturday.
VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY: I had a beer for lunch then me and the fellas went hunting for retarded birds on the Armstrong ranch.

BRIT HUME: You have a masculine voice.
VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY: Yes, well, Harry got a couple of birds, then a few jumped out at me like a goddamn wolf man. I flat-lined, was revived with those zappy paddles, and thenó

BRIT HUME: You were almost killed by the retarded birds? You're like a Norse God. And this was Gotterdammerung!
VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY: I don't know what that is. Anyway, this bastard bird jumped up and I fired away. That's when one of the fellas shouted, "You shot Harry!"

BRIT HUME: Which fella shouted that?
VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY: (incomprehensible)

BRIT HUME: Who?
VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY: One of the guys, you know. One of my hunting buddies. Big guy. Hairy.

BRIT HUME: Okay.
VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY: Pam Willeford. Who is a guy.

BRIT HUME: Some people are saying that's true. And without pressing you any further, I will agree and chalk it up as confirmed.
VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY: Stop grilling me on details, Brit. So I ran up to Harry. I didn't run, actually. I kind of lurched. I like to lurch. Harry was conscious, happy, and joking. He was also unconscious, severely injured, and not talking.

BRIT HUME: That makes so much sense. I just peed myself it made so much sense.
VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY: Right.

BRIT HUME: Can I kiss the fleshy area above your elbow?
VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY: What? No. (whispers) Later. Anyway, hospital -- recovery -- heart attack -- and here I am. Fully complying with my obligation to the American people to be forthcoming and honest.

http://tinyurl.com/dj6xp

BRIT HUME: Most honest Veep ever. Thank you for choosing Fox News to tell your story, Mr. Vice President. Sorry if I had to ask the hard questions, but I'm a journalist.
VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY: It's your job. Thank you, Brit.

BRIT HUME: Do my saggy eyes make me look sleepy?

END TRANSCRIPT

#198 (and West By God Virginia)
I guess at some level the "handle" Uncledad could be taken the wrong way? It really doesn't mean anything unless you are offended by it. I think it is a statement on the interchangeable nature of our society. The way wrong can be inserted for right. The way right consumes and smothers left?

The way a right wing pundit can become one's father.

Repeat Again,

Cheney say's on faux news "the image of him falling is something i'll never be able to get out of my mind.......I fired and there's Harry falling, I'd have to say it was one of the worst days of my life at that moment". Maybe he understands what images many of the 200,000+ troops (he and his buddies sent to Iraq)have to live with for the rest of there lives. This man is an embarrasment to our country. Can you imagine if John Kerry would of shot someone in his 2004 photo-op hunting trip. The "liberal" media would have deemed it the end of civilization as we know it.

Got it. If you've ever heard Jeff Foxworthy, you know what I'm talking about. If your uncle and your dad are the same person...you might be a redneck!

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Yeah, now he knows what it's like to shoot somebody. I think that's one of the reasons this story will not die. He has forced our young men into hell and he runs scared and whines about how awful it was for him. Imagine what a 20 year old has to deal with. And to know that Cheney got us into Iraq because his greed couldn't be controlled.

Kathleen, would you please take the time to learn to cut and paste and leave out the extra shit? If you don't know how to hyperlink, well, okay, you can check with capt or pande or someone but for chrissakes, all that extraneous shit you leave in your posts is REALLY annoying. Don't tell me you're too busy. You'd be a helluva lot more effective if you got to the POINT faster.

Thank you.

Honey, would you and TRH keep it down? I'm trying to get to sleep here.

kathleen,

Check my post at 184. It is useful.

Jeff Foxworthy?

Isn't it interesting that he still has a career? Who watches that crap? Comedy Central makes "ALL" their money on the Daily show, and Southpark. But turn on comedy central any Friday (nobody watches t.v. on Friday) and you'll see get-r-done comedy. Somebody must be watching it or it wouldn't be on t.v.

Goodnight, auntmom.

Good Night tyandan, Actually the opposite of uncledad is AuntRon, but auntmom was damm close.

"...lets talk about the Saddam tapes that will be aired tonight on Nightline that dispute your crazy claim that Bush lied about WMD. Lets also talk about the two top Iraqi military officials that have recently stated Saddam had WMD, moved them to Syria and had ties to Osama? What the hell, lets get serious?"

LBH, you lyin' sacka shyt! Those tapes said none of the things you said. The only person that said that was the Republican spinner saying that's what they said.
It said Saddam warned the US about terrorism. Said it was coming, but not from us. This was in the mid-90's too. In their own voices saying these things don't come from states, it's individuals. The tapes aren't classified either. That means if they were any kind of proof for Doofus', they would've released them theirselves, with big fanfare.
Tuck your tail between your legs once again. You know the routine, cause you've been punked so often on here.

Hey,

If any of you fellow cornnuts live in Texas, you really should consider Kinky Friedman. Check out his website. He is the best thing to happen to modern politics since Ronald Reagan, and Arnold Swatisfuck. Really I think he's the best Texas can come up with.

Basement... in a mobile home?

Boyd, you ain't gonna believe this, but... My uncle in Kansas has a double-wide with a basement. haha No kidding, my grandmother's house, which he bought, burned down and he got a mobile home dealer to set a house over the basement and cut an access to it. A few extra sheets of skirting, and wa-laaa!

Alan,

I currently have a claim involving a doublewide
and they actually have an indoor/outdoor inground pool built into it. No basement, though.

"...lets talk about the Saddam tapes that will be aired tonight on Nightline that dispute your crazy claim that Bush lied about WMD. Lets also talk about the two top Iraqi military officials that have recently stated Saddam had WMD, moved them to Syria and had ties to Osama? What the hell, lets get serious?"

Hey man of course they had WMD. They moved them in the 12 days between when the USA kicked out the inspectors and we started mission accomplished. Two days after Scott Ritter told us they had no weapons, all the sudden they had no weapons? Don't you find that curious? The fact that people in this country, during a time of war, said they have no weapons? And then every alledged weapons expert agreed? That is nonsense. Of course they had weapons. If they didn't have weapons we would have never attacked them. Of course they had weapons. Come on why are we still debating this "fact".

TRH, (198)

DUDE! What the hell are you surfing to get all these poignant...but uhm, bizzare stories?

Ejaculations on computers one night, livestock the next... Hmm...

I just thought Uncledad was somebody I already knew, but shouldn't talk about!

-T

Hajji,

It's a great site. Pretty funny, and serious stuff.

FARK

Never a dull moment. Equal opportunity offenders site.

3'rd person.

Stable but still shot in the face?

Does David Corn ever join his loyal readers here in the comments section for a chat? That'd be cool.

I saw him on C-SPAN at Patrick Fitzgerald's press conference for the indictment of Lewis Libby. He got a question in. Unfortunetly, grand jury rules prohibit the prosecutor from answering any of the interesting questions.

I read Dave's book last winter. It's a good read. Did you read it? If so, what'd you think?

Knowing what he knows now he would have still shot his friend in the face.

Does David Corn ever join his loyal readers here in the comments section for a chat? That'd be cool.

I am almost sure I have confered with the almighty DC of late. Be sure that he reads every ledgible entry?

Almost every ledgible entry!

#221 almost sure? How mysterious! ;-)

#220
This administration does not learn from their mistakes because according to them they make no mistakes.

legible. how ironical.

Hi Unc. Nice to meet you.

from Capt at #162 about the deja vu study...

I am absolutely sure I have posted this before, it seems far too familiar to be otherwise.

hahahaha That cracked me up!

Talking about Talking about Deja Vu. Is LBH Baf?

LBH is a lunatic. Try not to encourage him.

Jeanne's at #179

I wish. But hell girl, I'm not a lawyer, and even I seen the flaw in that law. It repeatedly, under each subset, said "intentionally and knowingly...".

They'll have to find another law, that wouldn't get far.

from #183...
If I lived in Texas, I'd vote for him.

Yeah Tim, he's a character alright! Gotta love Kinky! I tell ya, he's got support from some of the right people too. There was a fundraiser here awhile back, at Carolyn Farb's house, a longtime social butterfly of the rich crowd around here. You know that section of the paper where they show pictures of the latest 'charity ball' or 'ladies luncheon'... she's (haha) alla time in the paper. Camera crew walking among the guests for Kinky's gig caught, guess who... Delay's lawyer Deguerin with a drink and smiling. Farb's a married rich bish repug, and Deguerin is a rich Dem... so he's eating into both party's base.

Damn that LBH guy is a real ass. Anyone agree? Boyd you should ignore that dick.

Kathleen and Jeanne rock!

Peace

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legible. how ironical.

I thourally apoligize for misspelling, somtimes I just get cofuzed?
Isn't it ironic?

Riley(LBH)

You are such a puss. LBH at least had the balls to sign his posts. Go back to annoying your conservative friends.

Damn, by the time I read everybody's posts (well, almost everybody's), y'all are all gone!

Chain-ee, the lion-hearted picture

LBH, why does Corky threaten you so much? Corky is mostly a moderate voice, and yet you keep singling him out.......why?

You are pretty wimpy.

Thc,or Lbh, you need to get a clue.

Attacking corky is strategically stupid.

Cory is a man who has never expounded on anthing he hasn't researched.

"The other night Jon Stewart--responding to the news of the Cheney hunting mishap--said, "Thank you, Jesus. . . . For late-night comics, this story is the gift that keeps giving, as long as Harry Whittington doesn't take a turn for the worse and die." -- DC

Again, David, the jokes and gags would be even more abundant and crueler had Whittington died --- Jon Stewart's reaction would be no different. And it wouldn't be just comics making the cracks. There is a schadenfreude in contemporary American politics that relegates human beings to props when there's political hay to be made. There are no doubt some posters here who are hoping that Whittington DOES die, so they can all for a grand jury investigation into a homicide. (I'm sure I'm pre-empting at least one post when I sarccastically write "No, it's not that we want Whittington to die; we want Cheney to die!) Right?

Many Righties do the same thing. I know a few who were laughing out loud when the facts of Jesse Jackson's out-of-wedlock child were made public. No one was really thinking about the little girl. There were points to be made.

"But it's also a gift for journalists who can chew on an event like this much easier than, say, White House policy on health care savings accounts."

And it's a shame that they're not objective or talented enough to make subjects like that much easier to digest.

The Cheney shooting is certainly a news item, but not nearly as important as the self-important WH press corps wants it to be. Did Cheney's decisions and PR team fumble on this one? Sure. So what's changed because of it?

"What makes this such a boom for journos, though, is the White House's decision not to come clean quickly."

A boom within their own circles. Most Americans don't appear to care about whether the WH press corps was informed or not.