February 10, 2006Credibility Problem?When does the lack of credibility become a credibility problem? Today's news is not full of ammo for anyone who wants to argue that George W. Bush can be trusted to provide the straight dope. The Bush White House and the Department of Homeland of Security had previously said that they had not been told that a main levee in New Orleans had broken until August 30, the day after Katrina passed through the Big Easy and the day after the levee had given way. (In fact, on the morning of the 30th, Bush and Michael Chertoff, the head of DHS, both made comments suggesting the results of the storm were not so bad.) But now there are FEMA emails and testimony from Michael "Heckuva Good Job" Brown showing that warnings did go to the White House on the evening of August 29. The White House and the DHS explain this by saying that when they previously claimed that they had not been informed of the levee breach until the 30th they had meant that they had not received official confirmation of the breakdown until that point. There is a technical word for this sort of explanation: lame. If government officials call the White House and DHS and claim a severe emergency is under way (with life-threatening consequences for tens of thousands of people), that's when the clock starts ticking, not when the official word arrives through bureaucratic channels. Just ask Kiefer Sutherland. The Katrina controversy is not done. As more information emerges, there is more for the Bush White House to explain. And it will become politically dicey for GOPers if the White House continues to stonewall by denying congressional investigators access to emails and testimony concerning what was occurring at the White House as New Orleans was sinking. Then, turn the pages of a newspaper, and you will stories about emails Jack Abramoff sent Kim Eisler, the national editor of Washingtonian magazine. In these emails, Abramoff claims he met Bush many times and that Bush seemed well aware of him. After all, Abramoff had raised a bundle of campaign cash for Bush. But Bush has said of Abramoff, "I don't know him." How did Scott McClellan respond to the latest disclosure that seems to contradict Bush's assertion? With a non-sequitur. Asked about the emails, McClellan said, "I think what the president says still stands: Mr. Abramoff is someone who was involved in wrongdoing, he has acknowledged that himself." But that's not the question at hand. Has Bush told the truth about his interactions with Abramoff? Abramoff wrote a lot of emails. The Jackgate investigation is far from done. Presumably, McClellan has not non-answered his last question on this subject. What all this has to do with Libby's alleged false statements--the core of the case against him--is unclear. But is it imaginable that he really will haul Cheney into the courtroom and have his defense attorney grill the vice president on whether Cheney authorized Libby to leak classified information selectively to protect the White House from criticism? That would be one heckuva show. Cheney is the White House's biggest decrier of leaks. He has long been reluctant to turn over information to Congress, citing leaks from Capitol Hill. It's hard to see Libby placing Cheney in such a situation. And it would hardly better the odds for a pardon. Posted by David Corn at February 10, 2006 02:10 PM | ||||




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Libby's "I was just following orders" doesn't really help him with his perjury charge, but it does make the whole story more interesting. Too bad the trial is somewhat conveniently scheduled for after this year's elections.
Posted by: Don at February 10, 2006 02:23 PM
Libby actually said that his "superiors" gave him the go ahead to divulge the information. Just how many superiors does he have: Bush, Cheney. Why are so many people blind to what this administration is? And then here comes Abramoff, admitting he's pals with Bush. Only Bush can't remember him. Must be some of those burned out brain cells from the years of drinking and snorting, huh?
Posted by: jay at February 10, 2006 02:29 PM
We have to throw these bums out of office! Now! Before they screw up this country even more than they have already. It's time for a revolution!
The very fact that 51% of the voters chose to put Bush in office in 2004(well I guess we don't really know if that is true or not, do we?) tells me we don't have much of a chance though. The Sheeple tend to believe what they are told by the MSN. And with Ried being so whishy washy, it's time we need a new Democratic leader in Congress. I vote for Fiengold - but everyone knows I am partial to him since I am proud to say he is my Senator. But hey, we need him to counteract Sensenbrenner!
Fiengold for President in '08!
Posted by: flan at February 10, 2006 02:38 PM
Lawyers, Drugs and Money, Porter Goss is back at it again, POPPIES anyone?. CIA aircraft operating under the cover of post office box firms and a humanitarian assistance operation are reportedly engaged in flying heroin out of Afghanistan as part of a 1980s-style covert operation to sell drugs for off-the-books operating capital. The narcotics smuggling operation also maintains a presence in Geneva, Switzerland where cash can be easily laundered. A reputed relative of CIA Director Porter Goss (last name is Goss), who is based near Geneva, is reportedly involved in the drug smuggling operation. Sources confirm that Goss has re-engaged a number of CIA assets from the Iran-Contra scandal to participate in the operation.
Posted by: DEN at February 10, 2006 02:44 PM
wrt FEMA warnings on levee:
Generally speaking, how often would you say we are `warned' about something? Now, let's suppose that whoever received FEMA's warning on possible levee breach ALSO received other warnings about power, lack of elderly evac, wind speed, you name it... FEMA did what it thought was right to `warn' but presumably at that point in time, the WH was not directly in charge and whoever FEMA sent the warning to, may not have been standing by continuously to monitor the situation.
Many things could've been done better but please do not forget that beyond any doubt, when facing a Cat. 4 (or 3) hurricane, complete evacuation of the most vulnerable low-lying areas was, and will be in the future, the best defense. If Brown/FEMA/WH are the Scapegoats, then let's just say that Nagin played his `race card' to perfection to set them up to be the scapegoats!
Posted by: Happy rebut at February 10, 2006 02:58 PM
wrt Jack Gate:
I can claim to know Clyde Drexler, Hakeem Olajuwon, Craig Biggio, David Carr, etc... since I have been at the same place, even at the same exact time, as these celebrities but they wouldn't be lying if they all said they don't know me. Never mind that Clyde and my son were in a photo taken by me! Unless proven definitively, I do NOT believe Bush would be so brazen to `lie' about a definite relationship. with Jack boy.
Posted by: Happy rebut part 2 at February 10, 2006 03:06 PM
Liberty Tower? Hmmm, That has Rove all over it. How do you get the flag-wavers rev'd up over a library (what's that, bubba?) when liberty is so much better. No, me thinks was no slip of the tongue whatsoever.
Posted by: ChiGirl at February 10, 2006 03:08 PM
What? Now Mayor Nagin is at fault? Moneybags forgets that NewOrleans has a large population of POOR people, so poor many did not own a car. Of course when one is sitting on ones high horse......
Posted by: DEN at February 10, 2006 03:08 PM
This is a response to Saladin's #87 from the previous thread.
History Repeats Itself
Dear Cornposters:
Throughout history we see history repeating. One fact is certain that empires cannot sustain themselves. Empires can only expand so much and than they become unstable and even snap. A good example is the Roman Empire. They could not control their borders. Nazi America has a problem of controlling her borders. We are not even talking of the 700 bases that are flanked around the world.
The Roman Empire did not have the manpower to prop up the empire and so mercenaries were hired to protect the empire. Lead poisoning from the use of leaded pots and pans also killed off the population. Slowly, the Roman Empire collapsed. It took about 700 years in this process of collapse.
The Nazi American Empire is about 225 years as an empire. One would believe that we had about 475 years more years before we see the collapse of the Nazi American Empire. With our nuclear weapons and our murderous ways we feel quite secure. However, we still have mega-problems in our empire.
Nazi America does hire mercenaries to protect corporations in foreign lands. Yet, we have difficulties protecting our southern borders, not to mention our 700 bases. Our manpower is dwindling down to a precious few because with our endless wars and use of depleted uranium and our soldiers have serious medical problems and with the DU in a manÕ³ semen our babies die or have deformities. Less fighting machines are being born. We are also contaminating our waters with mercury. One in six children are born challenged. This number will increase dramatically with DU contaminating our country and the world. If I recall correctly, 42 states have DU problems.
We can also note problems with our population doubling in the next 50 years to 600 million legal residents and about 75 million illegal residents. 90% of the Nazi American Empire will be living in squalor that will add more problems for the Nazi American Empire. Some Nazi Americans will have to live off the road kill that they see on the roads. Other Nazi Americans will have to beg at the guarded gates of the 10% wealthy for the scraps of food after dinner. Communal graves will be a big business.
We have the 10% of the Nazi Americans living in luxury and embracing bushianity as their religion. Bushianity holds steadfastly to the pillars of hatred, murders, torture, war crimes, corruption, greed, decadence, and lies. The souls have dry rot to prop them up. How long can this dry rot last?
For the misery, pain, and suffering that the Nazi American Empire has inflicted upon the world populations, misery, pain, and suffering will be unleashed tenfold upon Nazi Americans. We see the total demise of the Nazi American Empire. I do not know how long it will take for this demise to take hold but you can bet that it will take hold.
Yes, history does repeat itself!
Sincerely,
Gerald
Posted by: Gerald at February 10, 2006 03:10 PM
I still think Fitzgerald has the goods on Libby and hopefully on Cheney.
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Is it really too much to ask the MSm to ask logical questions about the Bush administration's claims about Iran's "supposed" nuclear development?
This morning on the Diane Rehm Show when the subject of Iran came up all three guest (she takes pride in her show being well balanced) rolled over.(go listen to the show Friday Feb 10th)
Not one of them (including Diane) made any attempts to counter the Bush administration's endlessly repeated claims about Irans "supposed" nuclear developments. They just all repeated what we are hearing in the media, which is basically telling us what this administration is saying.
Click on over to Huffington Post and you will not read one article about the claims being made about Iran (at least last time I checked).
While David Corn did throw us a bone yesterday (thanks David). I did not read David's laser like questions being asked about these nuclear development claims being made by this administration.
In fact I felt some inferences in David's article that one might be a little foolish for questioning the Bush administration's claims about Iran. Or that one might be considered "left of center" for noticing patterns of deception.
If folks in The MSM and many in the so called "alternative" press are not able to come up with any logical questions. Here are just a few that pop in my soccer mom brain.
1. Where is the verifiable evidence to back up these claims? We are now told that some documents were found in Iran from AQ Khan, I am just wondering were these supplied by any cousins of "Curveball or Micheal Ledeen?"
2. Has IAEA'S Mr. El Baradei verified the reliability of these documents?
3. Is anyone questioning the legality of the parallel organization that John Bolton has set up to trump the UN Security Council if the other members do not vote with the the U.s. to set up sanctions against Iran. This stage has been set up by Bolton to move forward with sanctions whether the UN Security Council votes with him or not.
4. Iaea's Mr. El Baradei has said that "Iran poses no immediate threat". Why not allow Mr. el Baradei deal with Iran instead of the same folks who LIED us into the "cakewalk in Iraq."
5.The other day on the BBc I heard a reporter ask the very first logical or hard question that has been asked about the claims being made about Iran.
The U.K's Jack Straw was asked "where is the conclusive evidence?" Straw answered "there is no conclusive evidence, just highly suspicious behaviour by Iran."
Jesus Mary and Joseph is it too much to ask U.s. reporters to ask some rational questions about this administrations claims about Iran nuclear developments?
Or is the american public supposed to get used to a press that seems complicit with the PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY regime change agenda.
Deja Vu ....MSM ..Shame on you
Posted by: kathleen at February 10, 2006 03:14 PM
Bush and his Nazi cabal are masters of bait and switch tactics. They are liars. Libby will fall on the sword for busheney. Nothing will transpire to reveal our traitors' acts. The Nazis have the numbers and they have the power.
Posted by: Gerald at February 10, 2006 03:15 PM
I do NOT believe Bush would be so brazen to `lie' about a definite relationship. with Jack boy.
Really? You don't think Bush would brazenly lie? You are either ignorant or naive.
Posted by: Don at February 10, 2006 03:15 PM
Again! Libby was too busy to remember who he blabbed to yet he remembers Cheney telling him to leak it. Oh brother. Or should I say, Oh Big Brother.
Posted by: ChiGirl at February 10, 2006 03:16 PM
Happy
Clyde the Glyde Drexler is one of the classist player to be in the NBA. I had a chance to meet him back when he was an allstar with the Portland Trailblazers, they had a good run with him. Damn that Majic Johnson. I still have his poster in my garage. We were happy to see him get a chance at a title ring with Houston. If only the politicians of today could be like Clyde and have a little class.
Posted by: LBH at February 10, 2006 03:17 PM
wrt Los Angeles' Library Tower
...while Bush did reveal a few new specifics, this plot had previously been acknowledged by the administration. This out-of-the-blue mention was obviously the product of calculation. Could it be political calculation?
Just to be fair-and-balanced, I tend to agree with you there. You gotta give credit to Bush & Co., this `story' had nice visuals and is something any person can relate to.
While on this subject, I just want to say that LA mayor, then or now, probably shouldn't have been notified unless the threat had not been defused or imminent. I mean, we can never cry enough `wolf' or give out too many warnings.
Hey, idea time, the Dems can run on platforms of:
"We'll warn you (and of course the terrorists) of anything that could be a threat and let you have the absolute liberty to decide what constitutes Clear and Present Danger" or
"Vote Democratic, we will micromange everything at all times and you will always know, in real time, who scred up!"
Posted by: Happy rebuttal part 3 at February 10, 2006 03:18 PM
Let's face it...IF the Supremes hadn't crowned GW *Reichskanzler* after the REAL Y2K problem HE would have filled the Jacky the Jokeman seat on the Stern show.....
Posted by: EminemsRevenge at February 10, 2006 03:19 PM
Don
Which one are you, ignorant or naive to believe the lies of Dingy Harry?
Posted by: LBH at February 10, 2006 03:21 PM
#14 LBH
Amen to that! What was really heartwarming was that Drexler came home to complete/finish his career.
Keep up the good and hard work here!
Posted by: Happy to LBH at February 10, 2006 03:25 PM
The U.K's Jack Straw was asked "where is the conclusive evidence?" Straw answered "there is no conclusive evidence, just highly suspicious behaviour by Iran."
highly suspicious behaviour - ha. their "highly suspicious behaviour" consists of preparing to switch their oil market from dollars to euros - just like Iraq was going to before they were destroyed.
Iran offers no "nuclear threat". There is not the slightest evidence that it has the centrifuges necessary to enrich uranium to weapons-grade material. The head of the IAEA, Mohamed ElBaradei, has repeatedly said his inspectors have found nothing to support American and Israeli claims. Iran has done nothing illegal; it has demonstrated no territorial ambitions nor has it engaged in the occupation of a foreign country - unlike the United States, Britain and Israel. It has complied with its obligations under the Non-Proliferation Treaty to allow inspectors to "go anywhere and see anything" - unlike the US and Israel. The latter has refused to recognise the NPT, and has between 200 and 500 thermonuclear weapons targeted at Iran and other Middle Eastern states.
Posted by: James Ha at February 10, 2006 03:28 PM
American Soldiers
More American soldiers are killed in the Middle East, 2,528.
2,528 American soldiers have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan for Bush and his evil lies.
Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy. Henry Kissinger
G.K. Chesterton said that Jesus speaks sanity to a world of lunatics.
Before you seek revenge, dig two graves. Confucius
When an illegal war is launched, EVERY person killed and injured, EVERY piece of property destroyed, and all environmental damage is a WAR CRIME. A war without borders and limits is a perpetual war. This war of aggression proliferates terrorism in proportion to its reckless widening, making the world ever more dangerous. TCR News
Nazi America is a mirror image of Bush!
Posted by: Gerald at February 10, 2006 03:28 PM
This is what the democrats should be:
Paul Hackett does not take any crap from GOP brown shirt thugs
Posted by: corky at February 10, 2006 03:32 PM
I cant believe LBH=Happy=paid troll is still going on about Harry Ried.
Posted by: corky at February 10, 2006 03:33 PM
The Heresy Called Religion
Posted by: Gerald at February 10, 2006 03:34 PM
Twenty-Three Intel Experts Say LA Terror Plot a Sham
Posted by: James Ha at February 10, 2006 03:37 PM
Paid troll#15
I believe Emporer Bush changed the name of the tower from "Library" to "liberty". The name works better with the empty psuedo-patriotic rhetoric.
Posted by: corky at February 10, 2006 03:37 PM
James Ha
Why are you so eager to defend Iran as you trolls did Saddam? When Bush went to war with Iraq, all you trolls were up in arms because he wasn't addressing the real threat to us such as Iran and North Korea. Now that he is addressing this issue with the help of the world community, all of a sudden your a big Iran supporter. This is called a flip-flop on a mega scale.
Posted by: LBH at February 10, 2006 03:38 PM
Corky, like a broken record, he and moneybags are Brokeback Trolls. HA!HA!
Posted by: DEN at February 10, 2006 03:38 PM
This is a must read article.
This Century
Posted by: Gerald at February 10, 2006 03:38 PM
#22 Corky
I cant believe LBH=Happy=paid troll is still going on about Harry Ried.
Posted by: corky at February 10, 2006 03:33 PM
Well said, at least we are paid, in my case, $100 per keystroke! Jealous? Sorry! There only so many of these Happy paying jobs to go around.
Now, weren't you suppose to be looking for a job? Try Houston where mimimum wage can easily support oneself and where 2 minimum wage jobs can support a family of 3 living in Class C apartments for ~$500. At $10 per hour for working couple, they can buy starter homes of 1,000 to 1,200 SF for
Posted by: Happy shows some concern at February 10, 2006 03:41 PM
This is another must read article.
The Origins of Our Police State
Posted by: Gerald at February 10, 2006 03:42 PM
#29 Continued
At $10 per hour for working couple, they can buy starter homes of 1,000 to 1,200 SF for less than $100k!
Posted by: Happy reconnects at February 10, 2006 03:43 PM
Den
There you go again, degrading your fellow homosexual friends by trying to be funny. Did you know that could be considered a hate crime by your buddies at the ACLU?
Posted by: LBH at February 10, 2006 03:43 PM
Watch Scotty try to explain why anyone would try to blow the nose of an Airplane off BEFORE they try to fly it into a building. Scroll down to "Attack of the footless Terrorist's".
Shoe Bomb
Posted by: corky at February 10, 2006 03:44 PM
The Long War
Posted by: Gerald at February 10, 2006 03:46 PM
Happy! You delightfully deluded ostrich!
If you are not stinking in the Bush economy you are mincemeat. Period.
Posted by: corky at February 10, 2006 03:47 PM
stinking rich that is.
Posted by: corky at February 10, 2006 03:47 PM
Average rent in D.C. metro area= 1300 dollars a month for a ONE ROOM APARTMENT.
At ten dollars an hour a months pay is about 1000 dollars a month. Do the math rich guy. Minimum wage is 5.15 an hour.
Posted by: corky at February 10, 2006 03:51 PM
Take some time to read the articles on antiwar.com. It will be closing its website because donations are down.
The Neocons' Long War
Posted by: Gerald at February 10, 2006 03:52 PM
#35, #36
Damn, how did you know that I sometime stinks and with above-average income, am always rich?
The 6th sense you Lefties have!! Now you know, at $100 per keystroke, how I got rich. But to be honest, my keystrokes pay here is just chump change compared to my moving 10 Kilos a week to keep you Liberals in 7th Heaven!
Markets closing, Gotta run!
Posted by: Happy ?stinking rich? at February 10, 2006 03:53 PM
Oiloholics Anonymous History suggests that bureaucrats are not quite as good at picking winners as is the market. by Irwin M. Stelzer IT'S DIFFICULT to decide which is more depressing: the goal the president has set to cure us of our "addiction" to oil, or the prescription he has written to help us kick the habit. In his State of the Union address President Bush set as his goal the replacement of some 75 percent of the oil we import from the Middle East by 2025. Since about 17 percent of our imported oil comes from that volatile region, that would mean reducing total imports by a bit less than 13 percent, although from what base--current consumption, or consumption in 2025--is unclear. Unfortunately, the oil market doesn't work that way. Unless we target Middle East producers with quotas, probably a violation of World Trade Organization rules, any import reductions will come out of the hides of higher-cost producers, not the Middle Eastern countries. Furthermore, our European allies, who made their reserves available to us during the supply interruptions caused by Katrina, would remain dependent on imports from the Middle East. And our reduced use would probably be offset by increased demand from China and India, diluting any effect the proposed cutbacks would have on the price of crude oil. But let's not be churlish. President Bush at least avoided the grandiosity of Presidents Nixon and Carter, both of whom promised to end completely our dependence on imports. And he abandoned the unrealistic notion that we can feed our petroleum cravings with homegrown rather than imported oil, by gearing up domestic production in Alaska, the Rockies, and elsewhere. That concession to reality can't have been an easy step for a Texas oilman to take. So let's concede that we should indeed attempt, in the president's words, to move "beyond a petroleum-based economy," or at least to meet his import-reduction target. Unfortunately, the president has chosen to travel a well-worn path that any conservative should avoid. We are to have a series of government investments in alternative technologies: $281 million already targeted for clean coal technologies is to be sped up; $54 million will be spent to develop emissions-free coal plants that capture and store carbon emissions; $148 million devoted to a Solar America Initiative; $44 million for wind energy research; $150 million to help develop bio-based transportation fuels from agricultural waste products such as "wood chips and stalks, or switch grass." There are more bits and pieces, but you get the idea. The president has stolen from his father's new friend, Bill Clinton, the idea that sprinkling relatively tiny bits of money over a long list of projects creates the impression of real action. Perhaps we are lucky that the president didn't propose to spend even more on these projects, for they all share a fatal flaw: They may be little projects, but they reflect big-government thinking. The central planners in the Department of Energy decide which technologies hold the greatest promise, and spend taxpayers' money to find out if they can do a better job than markets in allocating resources to technologies that just might yield alternatives to oil. CONTINUED 1 2 Next > Print This Article © Copyright 2006, News Corporation, Weekly Standard, All Rights Reserved.
Posted by: kathleen at February 10, 2006 03:54 PM
Exclusive Interview: Murray Waas on How Cheney "Authorized" Libby to Leak Classified Information From Democracy Now!
AMY GOODMAN: I reached Murray Waas yesterday and asked him to outline his expose.
MURRAY WAAS: Well, the story today says that Vice President Cheney, according to recent court filings, was authorized Ð actually authorized and directed ÒScooterÓ Libby to provide classified information to the press, among the people, Judy Miller of the New York Times, to make the Bush administrationÕs case that they hadnÕt misused pre-war intelligence to make the case to go to war with Iraq. So even though LibbyÕs not saying Cheney directed him to release the Plame information, Libby is essentially claiming he was authorized in a broader way by Cheney to go out and discredit Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson.
AMY GOODMAN: And this is based on documents you have seen?
MURRAY WAAS: ThereÕs actually a public court filing in the case, which is correspondence between Pat Fitzgerald, the Special Prosecutor, and LibbyÕs attorney, in which Fitzgerald makes reference to the fact that Libby said that he had been Ð he had claimed in the grand jury to have been, quote/unquote, ÒauthorizedÓ Ð thatÕs LibbyÕs word Ð by superiors to disclose the classified information. Libby and Fitzgerald donÕt disclose who the superiors are, but IÕve talked to other people with first-hand knowledge of the matter who say that it was indeed Ð Cheney was the key person there.
More.
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Ex-CIA Official Faults Use of Data on Iraq
Intelligence 'Misused' to Justify War, He Says
By Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, February 10, 2006; A01
The former CIA official who coordinated U.S. intelligence on the Middle East until last year has accused the Bush administration of "cherry-picking" intelligence on Iraq to justify a decision it had already reached to go to war, and of ignoring warnings that the country could easily fall into violence and chaos after an invasion to overthrow Saddam Hussein.
Paul R. Pillar, who was the national intelligence officer for the Near East and South Asia from 2000 to 2005, acknowledges the U.S. intelligence agencies' mistakes in concluding that Hussein's government possessed weapons of mass destruction. But he said those misjudgments did not drive the administration's decision to invade.
"Official intelligence on Iraqi weapons programs was flawed, but even with its flaws, it was not what led to the war," Pillar wrote in the upcoming issue of the journal Foreign Affairs. Instead, he asserted, the administration "went to war without requesting -- and evidently without being influenced by -- any strategic-level intelligence assessments on any aspect of Iraq."
"It has become clear that official intelligence was not relied on in making even the most significant national security decisions, that intelligence was misused publicly to justify decisions already made, that damaging ill will developed between [Bush] policymakers and intelligence officers, and that the intelligence community's own work was politicized," Pillar wrote.
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Posted by: Robert Schwartz at February 10, 2006 03:57 PM
Using and Abusing Our Troops
Posted by: Gerald at February 10, 2006 03:57 PM
Clearly Bush's nonexistent credibility is shared by his cult followers. The economy is great! Wal Mart is fantastic career oppurtunity! There are WMD's in Iraq! Nobody anticipated the breach of the levees! If anyone in my administration leaked the identity of a covert CIA agent then they would no longer be in this administration!
Posted by: corky at February 10, 2006 03:58 PM
Some articles just seem to speak for themselves...
Posted by: Robert Schwartz at February 10, 2006 04:00 PM
Trade deficit with communist China grows and grows!
Supporting communism
Posted by: corky at February 10, 2006 04:04 PM
LBH, I don't give a damn about Iran - I didn't give a damn about Iraq - they made their own beds long ago -
what I do care about is the biggest crime family ever to foul up this planet taking control of america for it's own ends and then using that control to spread out and take control of the rest of the world. do you think that is not what's happening? or do you realize that's what is happening and you endorse it?
Posted by: James Ha at February 10, 2006 04:14 PM
Government budget surplus hits $21B, for the month of Jan.
Looks like we need more tax cuts before Congress spends the surplus! Thank you Mr. President for not listening to those sour grapes that wanted to raise taxes.
Posted by: LBH at February 10, 2006 04:14 PM
James Ha
What control? I am free to earn what I want and how I want as long as it's legal. I am free to send my children to where I want them to be educated. I am free to live where I want. I am free to say what I want. I am free to vote for what I want. I am free to raise a family if I want.
What exactly are you not free to do that you were able to do before Bush took office? Please help me understand!
Posted by: LBH at February 10, 2006 04:19 PM
Corky #43
With your attitude, I doubt Wal-Mart would even hire you.
Posted by: LBH at February 10, 2006 04:22 PM
NPR had a vauge report of Bush speaking to a group, somewhere, feed was being sent to the WH Press Room... He paused and the feed was supposed to be shut off, but wasn't for several minutes as Bush's tone changed into something he wouldn't want heard by the general public.
All I heard him say was "I expect what I'm about to say will stay in this room..."
Any hints as to what ELSE was said?
-T
Posted by: Hajji at February 10, 2006 04:25 PM
I never said that you and I are not free.
do you deny that the treasury has been looted, the military industry is being made even more rich, and the pharmaceutical companies and oil companies are getting record profits? do you deny that social programs are being squeezed out so the powerful can be more powerful?
who will pay for the iraq war that was based on lies and costs 6 BILLION/month? - you and I? no. our children.
The (extant) public needs to come to terms with the fact that we currently have a criminal administration, that a large segment of the the American public itself is also fascist and corrupt and is in support of current criminal activity (called patriotism), and that the mass media is actively trying to destroy our political system in the name of profit, exploitation and global domination.
Posted by: James Ha at February 10, 2006 04:28 PM
Hillary Clinton criticizes Bush for not catching Osama Bin Laden.
Who is Hillary to criticize anyone, after all she couldn't even catch Bill with his pants down.
It was a vast right wing conspiracy that made Bill get that blow job!!!
Posted by: LBH at February 10, 2006 04:31 PM
LBH, do you deny the existence of PNAC? - do you deny that their stated manifesto called for a new pearl harbor to further their own ends? do you deny that the WTC's were brought down by controlled demolition? or do you admire the entire 911 operation and are too ashamed to admit it? or do you just conveniently ignore the whole thing so you can continue to delude yourself?
Posted by: James Ha at February 10, 2006 04:34 PM
why did you suddenly bring up hillary clinton?
does she actually have any bearing on today's america? - I think that you don't care what is going on as long as your side is in control -
Posted by: James Ha at February 10, 2006 04:37 PM
I'm done, now I predict that you will call me a wacko or a lefty or some other bullshit that has no bearing on anything rather than actually examine the facts that surround every issue
Posted by: James Ha at February 10, 2006 04:40 PM
prove me wrong - see ya
Posted by: James Ha at February 10, 2006 04:40 PM
Mind Control by Parasites
Half of the world's human population is infected with Toxoplasma, parasites in the bodyÑand the brain. Remember that.
Toxoplasma gondii is a common parasite found in the guts of cats; it sheds eggs that are picked up by rats and other animals that are eaten by cats. Toxoplasma forms cysts in the bodies of the intermediate rat hosts, including in the brain.
Since cats don't want to eat dead, decaying prey, Toxoplasma takes the evolutionarily sound course of being a "good" parasite, leaving the rats perfectly healthy. Or are they?
Oxford scientists discovered that the minds of the infected rats have been subtly altered. In a series of experiments, they demonstrated that healthy rats will prudently avoid areas that have been doused with cat urine. In fact, when scientists test anti-anxiety drugs on rats, they use a whiff of cat urine to induce neurochemical panic.
However, it turns out that Toxoplasma-ridden rats show no such reaction. In fact, some of the infected rats actually seek out the cat urine-marked areas again and again. The parasite alters the mind (and thus the behavior) of the rat for its own benefit.
More HERE
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This might explain a whole lot of seemingly self-destructive behaviors.
capt
Posted by: capt at February 10, 2006 04:40 PM
Photos Of Bush And Abramoff
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HMM...I see a microphone (and video camera?)in one of these pics...Where's that confounded 17 minutes of audio?
-T
Posted by: Hajji at February 10, 2006 04:41 PM
James Ha
Do I believe that spending is out of control, yes! I disagree with the complaint about social programs with some exceptions. I am not bothered about corporations making a profit, if you don't like capitalism, Cuba would welcome you. I believe the tax code needs to be reformed and the Fed government needs to be downsized like GM. I would like to see the fed & state employees pension funds go away and let them pay for part of their health care.
As far as the war on terror:
The Pitts Steelers have demonstrated over and over, we need a strong offensive as well as a defense if you want to win. Just ask the Seattle Seahawks how far a weak offense will get you!
Posted by: LBH at February 10, 2006 04:51 PM
Libby is dog food. A pardon will be hinted, perhaps even promised. Libby will take the bullet, but no pardon will come. Write it on the wall. Libby is toast, as expendible without a second thought, as the thousands who have died for Halliburton's profits.
It is a false assumption that people like Cheney have a soul or conscience of any sort.
Bob in North Dakota
Posted by: Bob in North Dakota at February 10, 2006 04:53 PM
James Ha
"Now you'll problably call me a wacko or a lefty"
Hey, no need as long as you already know you are one.
Posted by: LBH at February 10, 2006 04:53 PM
Government budget surplus hits $21B, for the month of Jan.
LBH---care to point to where you got this from? Web site?
Posted by: Paul at February 10, 2006 05:25 PM
I saw that piece about the "budget surplus" the same place I saw this!
AmericaÕs trade deficit hits all-time high
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Posted by: Hajji at February 10, 2006 05:30 PM
In a rare moment of fairness...this is what RABID and Frequently wrong TROLL is probably talking about.
Government posts budget surplus in January
Federal tax receipts, spending levels set records for the month
Posted by: Hajji at February 10, 2006 05:35 PM
Troll couldn't post a link if his mother's life (if he hasn't already sold her to some slavery ring) depended on it!
-T
Posted by: Hajji at February 10, 2006 05:36 PM
Hajji
Such a little hostile fellow aren't ya!! I won't hold it against ya since you're a Steeler fan.
Yes the trade deficit was an all time high but not as big as revenues which makes a surplus-
wa la!!
This only confirms that we need to cut spending and increase tax cuts. Wouldn't you agree?
Posted by: LBH at February 10, 2006 05:48 PM
Helping with links is apolitical.
How do I make a hyperlink?
You can try it in preview and test the hyper-link before you post.
capt
Posted by: capt at February 10, 2006 05:55 PM
I'm not sure I see any correlation between the US Trade Deficit and the Gummint's ridiculous assertion that it is somehow now operating in the black.
It isn't...it just spent less of what it said it would in the month of January. So what do idiots like you call for? It isn't paying down the national debt to start the process of getting our grandchildren out of hock...it is to give more money to rich individuals and corporations...to buy more stuff from China to increase the TRADE DEFICIT!
But that wouldn't cross you mind (short trip it may be...) would it?
Now I'm gonna get in my Prius and get a pizza!
Posted by: Hajji at February 10, 2006 05:56 PM
I am a neutral observer and NOT a Seatle Seahawks fan but the the Steelers definately had the refs on their side.
It might have went the other way if the refs did not blow about 5 or 6 crucial penalties.
Posted by: alpieda at February 10, 2006 06:00 PM
Loose chimps sink ships, accidently had the mic on and reiterated his legal wiretaps were approved by WH lawyers which were no doubt graduates of the Monkey Wards school of law.
Posted by: DEN at February 10, 2006 06:04 PM
Hajji
Come on man, I'm more concerned about paying for liberals like you and Corky's social security than the National debt. However, that does take second place with me.
I am all for liberals paying an extra voluntary tax to pay down the deficit to keep you all from stressing out. Any takers?
Hell, you are still contributing to global warming-screw the deficit. we're all going to be dead from the wood and oil burning you trolls commit before the deficit ever catches up to us.
Posted by: LBH at February 10, 2006 06:07 PM
#71
Don't Believe it!
It was a set up.
Bush knew the mic was on.
Posted by: alpieda at February 10, 2006 06:09 PM
alpieda wrote:
>I am a neutral observer and NOT a Seatle Seahawks fan but the the Steelers definately had the refs on their side.
I am neither a Steelers nor Seahawks fan, and I do agree, they got the raw deal of a couple calls. But, the 'hawks had their chances, to win too, and didn't convert some critical 3rd downs, etc.
A one-and-out tournament usually proves little. That is why the World Series is far more preferable to me, than the Super Bowl.
Bob
Posted by: Bob in North Dakota at February 10, 2006 06:10 PM
Hajji,
FOX just reported that he said, "I support a free press, just keep them out of the room."
He also said with regards to the NSA, "I knew that it was legal but I also knew that wasn't going to be enough."
These comments were made after the cameras were turned off and the press left the room. However, they forgot to turn off the microphone.
P.S.
Why were you giving "kisses to the missus" to Tim in the last thread? Just curious.
Posted by: TRH at February 10, 2006 06:15 PM
Bob
Shhhh!!! Don't tell anyone, Karl Rove was secretly working with the Steelers to steel the game.
Posted by: LBH at February 10, 2006 06:16 PM
Yeah! Doesn't that fat slob "The Bus" play for the Steelers. It's great to see that he is finally parking it.
Posted by: Prof. B G D'Gre at February 10, 2006 06:21 PM
Football is soooooo High School! Gimme Baseball, nobody blowin them stinkin whistles!
Posted by: DEN at February 10, 2006 06:30 PM
CBS news says 8.8 billion dollars unaccounted for security contracts in Iraq. Says that officials were carrying around millions at a time in gunny-sacks. 60 minutes is doing a reports on it on Sunday.
Posted by: alpieda at February 10, 2006 06:39 PM
Brown warned White House before Katrina struck
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former federal disaster chief Michael Brown told a Senate panel on Friday he had warned President George W. Bush that New Orleans was facing catastrophe the day before Hurricane Katrina struck.
The committee is investigating failures by federal, state and local officials to deal properly with the August 29 storm and particularly why the Bush administration was so slow to react to the emergency.
Brown as director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency emerged as the main scapegoat for the government's response.
He told the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee he had held a video conference call the afternoon of August 28, the day before the hurricane struck, which he specifically recalled Bush listened in on.
Brown said he warned top administration officials on the call that a disaster was looming and that the government should go on top alert and cut through red tape in its response. "I knew in my gut this was the bad one," he said.
Some 1,200 people died and hundreds of thousands were made homeless in the storm, which devastated parts of the coast of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama.
Brown, who was forced to resign two weeks after the disaster, said he also briefed White House Deputy Chief of Staff Joe Hagin, who was with Bush at his Texas ranch, about the extent of the disaster on the evening of Aug 29.
More HERE
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The WH KNEW but the scheduled photo op was a higher priority. I can see why neo-Condi had to go shoe shopping because the WH is full of fecal matter.
capt
Posted by: capt at February 10, 2006 06:40 PM
CBS is leading with the missing BILLIONS for Iraq, tonight...
Talk a bout the "cutting edge" of investigative journalism...
Jesus! they sit on this shit for YEARS before they bother!
TRH,
I just LOVE a tractor-riding gal!
"...If you're thinking we're the "weaker sex"
Ooooh, I wouldn't place no bets!
Ain't nothing lacking between my thighs
that a yellow Caterpiller won't equalize!"
Ain't nothin' like a TRACTOR!
-Lauri Sargent
Now playing with remnants of Morphine
in a band called TWINEMEN
Check 'em out!
Posted by: Hajji at February 10, 2006 06:43 PM
Big Al,
Come on now, we know it was a small group of reservists working the night shift. . . A handful of rogue "loose cannon's" - They spent it on hookers and lap-dances.
It cannot be accounted for because it was stolen, not mismanaged. See, move along, nothing to see.
Anybody know how many trucks it would take to move $8 billion in cash?
HA!
capt
Posted by: capt at February 10, 2006 06:46 PM
#81 8.8 billion buys alot of hookers.
Posted by: alpieda at February 10, 2006 06:50 PM
http://www.juancole.com/
WOW, if yo have not seen the lastest post, it has pictures and everything!
Posted by: capt at February 10, 2006 06:56 PM
Depends on the hooker.
Posted by: capt at February 10, 2006 06:57 PM
Bob in ND is undoubtedly on the money about Libby's chances for a pardon. Bad news days don't seem to deter cheney in the least in his ongoing, relentless march for total domination, so certainly little Scooter's problems are not cheney's problems.
Last night when cheney suggested that the debate over spying should be a political issue in this year's congressional elections, he further clarified where the neocons stand.
We are going to see more and more fear cards played from the stack. General rove and cheney are working day and night to come up with new ways to scare willing Americans into submission. cheney's call to politicize the NSA "program" is a warning, plain and simple.
We ain't seen nuthin' yet.
Posted by: micki at February 10, 2006 07:20 PM
My bad! Most of the missing 8.8 billion is "up front money" for uncompleted contruction projects.
Posted by: alpieda at February 10, 2006 07:22 PM
LBH, haven't you learned from Pags-Happy's experiences here that talking economics is not a strength of the Grand Ol' Spending Party?
Read the article. It mentions the fact that there was a budget surplus last January also. There were bigger budget surpluses in the 90s. Why would there be budget surpluses every January. Let's see ... Tink ... Tink ... Tink. What source of Federal revenue jumps in the months between January and April 15? This deficit is going the wrong way and the tax cuts are part of the problem, nimrod.
Hi Pagliacci, I'm home early.
More excuses from the Grand Ol' Lynching Party:
"FEMA did what it thought was right to `warn' but presumably at that point in time, the WH was not directly in charge and whoever FEMA sent the warning to, may not have been standing by continuously to monitor the situation."
With Condi Shopping for fancy shoes and President Chainee torturing beagle puppies on his ranch and Karl Rove getting his vaginal rejuvination therapy, who was there to tell? Chimpy? LOL. Like he'd be able to help anyone.
Look at the chain of command in the National Response Plan (esp. p. 9 -- careful it's one of those PDF bastards). After the State of Emergency is declared, DHS and the WH are to respond to critical needs as identified in the State of Emergency invoked by Gov. Blanco. Efforts were made to contact the White House.
They knew ahead of time:
"Former federal disaster chief Michael Brown told a Senate panel on Friday he had warned President George W. Bush that New Orleans was facing catastrophe the day before Hurricane Katrina struck."
That's Republican leadership for you. Screw the poor and blame it on them afterwards. Nice.
More whiny titty-baby tantrums:
"If Brown/FEMA/WH are the Scapegoats, then let's just say that Nagin played his `race card' to perfection to set them up to be the scapegoats!"
Posted by: Happy the butt at February 10, 2006 02:58 PM
Read the National Response Plan. Better yet, it might've been a good idea of someone in the White House had read the plan (much like those scary PDBs). Why do Republicans hate reading? I guess it's all those facts and shit that are so hard to wish away.
#14 LBH
Keep up the good and hard work here!
Posted by: Happy to nimrod at February 10, 2006 03:25 PM
With your attitude, I doubt Wal-Mart would even hire you.
Posted by: LBH at February 10, 2006 04:22 PM
Who is Hillary to criticize anyone, after all she couldn't even catch Bill with his pants down. It was a vast right wing conspiracy that made Bill get that blow job!!!
Posted by: LBH at February 10, 2006 04:31 PM
Shhhh!!! Don't tell anyone, Karl Rove was secretly working with the Steelers to steel (sic) the game."
Posted by: LBH at February 10, 2006 06:16 PM
Yup, great work, guys. Keep it up. The Preznit's poll numbers will climb above 40% out of sheer hilarity.
Posted by: Pandemoniac at February 10, 2006 07:24 PM
Did I miss the BOUNCE following bush's recycled SOTU address? Hellooooooo. His overall approval rating is down since the SOTU; only 38% of the public approves of his handling of Iraq; and a paltry 27% approve of bush on healthcare issues.
Credibility? They never had any but that certainly hasn't mattered to enough people to make a difference, has it?
Posted by: micki at February 10, 2006 07:28 PM
Another heaping, fly-infested pile of LBH:
"I am all for liberals paying an extra voluntary tax to pay down the deficit to keep you all from stressing out. Any takers?"
Posted by: LBH at February 10, 2006 06:07 PM
Do yourself a favor and set aside a little of the KoolAid money to buy yerself a clue. We liberals already pay most of the revenues into the Treasury. It's you Reds that sop up all that Welfare gravy. Pigs. You also have higher divorce rates, higher teen pregnancy rates (gasp), and higher murder rates.
Micki, Chimpy got that dead cat bounce that Doktor Frist likes ever so much.
Posted by: Pandemoniac at February 10, 2006 07:42 PM
The pardon is written but we should make sure he has to use it.
capt
Posted by: capt at February 10, 2006 07:47 PM
Pandemic
Ya know if you actually took the time to read what I posted instead of going into one of your ADD fits you would see that I agree with you on the spending side of the budget. However,you are dead wrong about the tax cuts being part of the problem, tax revenues are at an all time high. Now, lets concentrate, panny: less spending more revenue (result of tax cuts) = surlpus.
It's been fun educating you all on basic economics, maybe next time you can keep up!!!
Posted by: LBH at February 10, 2006 08:02 PM
Pandenmic
I don't live in a red state. I have been married twenty years this month. My children are honor students and I have one in college on a full academic scholarship(no pregnancies). And to top it off, I make over six figures a year. What's your record?
Posted by: LBH at February 10, 2006 08:09 PM
Corky
You gonna take that from Pandemic? Calling you a welfare gravy pig? Nice friends you got!!!
Posted by: LBH at February 10, 2006 08:12 PM
but LBH, the tax system is being anti-reformed, and the fed govt. has increased in scope by over 40%. and having a strong offensive is great, but when an offensive needs to be lied about, evidence manufactured and even planted in order for the 'offensive' to appear to be defensive, and false flag terror operations are used to promote a 'rally 'round the flag' phony patriotism as well as bilking an ins. company for 7 billion, that's just criminal.
am I to take your silence on the PNAC matter to mean that you approve of the whole affair but are embarrassed to admit it? just once I'd like to hear one of you fools admit that you think PNAC's plan for a 'new pearl harbor' was a good thing for american dominance. that I could respect. but yourself and others just conveniently ignore all questions about it, probably you wish the subject would just go away, right?
as I will continue to say :: criminals.
Posted by: James Ha at February 10, 2006 08:17 PM
LBH: Last time I checked, we had a huge budget deficit and a record trade deficit. What's all the yammering about a surplus? Revenues and expenses are not uniform by month throughout the year. Maybe January was in surplus but the 2006 deficit projection is >$400mm. If you're using the January results to claim that we are not spending a way more than we're taking in in taxes, then you are being disingenuous at best.
Posted by: truthseeker at February 10, 2006 08:19 PM
The LBH pile grows higher and smellier:
"Ya know if you actually took the time to read what I posted ... less spending more revenue (result of tax cuts) = surlpus (sic)."
Posted by: LBH at February 10, 2006 08:02 PM
I am reading what you write, dingbat. What's a surlpus?
Look at the revenues from previous years.
Clinton Years (higher taxes for Billionaires)
1,154.5
1994 $1,258.7 (in Billions)
1995 $1,351.9
1996 $1,453.2
1997 $1,579.4
1998 $1,722.0
1999 $1,827.6
2000 $2,025.5
Pres. Cheney Yrs (lower taxes for Billionaires)
2001 $1,991.4 (Tax cut)
2002 $1,853.4 (drop)
2003 $1,782.5 (droop)
2004 $1,880.3 (bottomed out - still lower than 2000)
2005 $2,153.9 (getting the ball rolling, finally)
What do the reactionaries at the Heritage Foundation think of your idiotic tax cut cheerleading? They think you're a moron, too.
Posted by: Pandemoniac at February 10, 2006 08:21 PM
"I don't live in a red state. I have been married twenty years this month. My children are honor students and I have one in college on a full academic scholarship(no pregnancies). And to top it off, I make over six figures a year. What's your record?"
Right, you only sound like a juvenile.
"A man is like a fraction whose numerator is what he is and whose denominator is what he thinks of himself. The larger the denominator the smaller the fraction." ~ Leo Tolstoy (1828 - 1910)
You cannot build reputation on what you are going to do.
capt
Posted by: capt at February 10, 2006 08:23 PM
He does not know what he is talking about. Typical of his ilk. Lies, lies, lies. When caught lying, lie some more. Works like a charm.
(that pile of LBH!)
Posted by: caroline at February 10, 2006 08:25 PM
There's an old saying, "when you hafta tell 'em who you are, you ain't..."
Posted by: micki at February 10, 2006 08:27 PM
Bush: Surplus Justifies Tax Cut
WASHINGTON, Feb. 24, 2001 (FIVE YEARS LATER...Feb 2006)
"Along with funding our priorities and paying down debt, my plan returns about one of every four dollars of the surplus to the American taxpayers, who created the surplus in the first place"
President Bush, in his weekly radio address. Feb, 2001...
(AP) Feb 24, 2001 President Bush said that the most important number in the budget he sends to Congress next week is the $5.6 trillion surplus it projects over the next 10 years.
That huge projected surplus provides the underpinning of all the administration's tax-cut and spending plans, Mr. Bush said in his recorded weekly radio address.
"A surplus in tax revenue, after all, means that taxpayers have been overcharged," the president said. "And usually when you've been overcharged, you expect to get something back." The surplus figure "counts more than any other" in the budget, he said.
Mr. Bush said his budget plan proposes a "reasonable" 4 percent growth rate, which he said is "little more than inflation."
He asserted that given the size of the expected surplus, his proposal leaves plenty of room for a large tax cut, while paying for increases in spending on education and for dealing with Social Security and Medicare.
"Education gets the biggest increase of any department in the federal government," the president said. But he insisted that "as we give more to our schools we're going to expect more in return."
"Social Security and Medicare will get every dollar they need to meet their commitments," Mr. Bush said.
He pledged that his spending plans will not neglect the national debt, now totaling about $5.7 trillion.
"After paying the bills, my plan reduces the national debt, and fast," Mr. Bush said. "So fast, in fact, that economists worry that we're going to run out of debt to retire. That would be a good worry to have."
The focus of the Bush budget is his proposal for $1.6 billion in tax cuts over the next decade.
Posted by: micki at February 10, 2006 08:40 PM
Did I say juvenile? I meant childish.
The troll is always a PHD[sic], Captain of industry, or makes six, seven or eight figures?
Like the troll will gain some credibility or their piffle posting is less the piffle?
I have never yet read a serious poster that has to quote their accolades to try to give meaning to their meaningless blather.
If the posts do not have any gravitas then file your resume? That my friends is as childish as it gets.
I guess since I have millions and am retired, that makes my posts better because I have more money. Childish perspective and a childish ploy.
The troll ought to be ashamed but trolls have no shame or they would not be here in the first place.
capt
Posted by: capt at February 10, 2006 08:41 PM
Bush Axing Libraries While Pushing for More Research
EPA Set to Close Library Network and Electronic Catalog
WASHINGTON - February 10 - Under President BushÕ³ proposed budget, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is slated to shut down its network of libraries that serve its own scientists as well as the public, according to internal agency documents released today by Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER). In addition to the libraries, the agency will pull the plug on its electronic catalog which tracks tens of thousands of unique documents and research studies that are available nowhere else.
Under BushÕ³ plan, $2 million of a total agency library budget of $2.5 million will be lost, including the entire $500,000 budget for the EPA Headquarters library and its electronic catalog that makes it possible to search for documents through the entire EPA library network. These reductions are just a small portion of the $300 million in cuts the administration has proposed for EPA operations.
At the same time, President Bush is proposing to significantly increase EPA research funding for topics such as nanotechnology, air pollution and drinking water system security as part of his "American Competitive Initiative."
"How are EPA scientists supposed to engage in cutting edge research when they cannot find what the agency has already done?" asked PEER Executive Director Jeff Ruch, noting that EPA Administrator Stephen Johnson is moving to implement the proposed cuts as soon as possible. "The PresidentÕ³ plan will not make us more competitive if we have to spend half our time re-inventing the wheel."
EPAÕ³ own scientists and enforcement staff are the principal library users. EPAÕ³ scientists use the libraries to research questions such as the safety of chemicals and the environmental effects of new technologies. EPA enforcement staff use the libraries to obtain technical information to support pollution prosecutions and to track the business histories of regulated industries.
EPA currently operates a network of 27 libraries operating out of its Washington, D.C. Headquarters and ten regional offices across the country. The size of the cuts will force the Headquarters library and most of the regional libraries to shut their doors and cease operations. Each year, the EPA libraries Њ
Handle more than 134,000 research requests from its own scientific and enforcement staff;
House and catalog an estimated 50,000 "unique" documents that are available nowhere else; and
Operate public reading rooms and provide the public with access to EPA databases.
"Access to information is one of the best tools we have for protecting the environment," added Ruch, calling the cuts the "epitome of penny wise and pound foolish." "By contrast, closing the Environmental Protection Agency libraries actually threatens to subtract from the sum total of human knowledge.
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A believer does not need any of that confusing science, they do not need to learn or think because the believe and that trumps any pesky facts, facts are in book, so who needs books?
capt
Posted by: capt at February 10, 2006 08:48 PM
A nice collage of pics
Posted by: capt at February 10, 2006 08:55 PM
A translation of the newest LBH lump:
He lives on the west coast, he lives with his mommy and daddy, and they are rich enough to put up with a momma's boy, washout living in the basement. How's the job at the Gas-n-sip working out? They got a surlpus there? LOL.
Me? I'm just the guy that punks your ass on a regular basis. 'Nuff said.
Posted by: Pandemoniac at February 10, 2006 08:55 PM
@103 Look very, very carefully. Is that Jeff Gannon in the wide shot with the boom mic? Looks like Jack and karl and george are just one big group of...
Posted by: truthseeker at February 10, 2006 09:07 PM
Kathleen 10, are those rhetorical questions? Or do you really not get it yet? Get used to the MSM? The sheeple are not only used to it, but need it like a junkie. How else will they justify the long hours glued to it?
James 19. those are just a bunch of nit-picky details! Nuke 'em and get it over with. HA!
Paul 62, budget SURPLUS???? What a f**king moron! That was the best troll comment yet. How they get that from the biggest spending bunch of idiots to ever hit DC, that have created a deficit beyond any liberals wildest imagination, is truly one for Ripleys Believe It Or Not! I guess we can forget all about that 2 trillion or so that disappeared from the pentagon, we don't need it anymore! I think I will forward that to Bill Bonner, he could use the laugh.
Posted by: Saladin at February 10, 2006 09:07 PM
that wasn't me in 105
Posted by: truthseeker at February 10, 2006 09:10 PM
President Bush Forever!
From Huffington post. Are they they trying to tell us something? Maybe Gerald is right.
Posted by: Saladin at February 10, 2006 09:14 PM
JERUSALEM (AFP) - Israel was left fuming over Russian President Vladimir Putin's decision to invite Palestinian poll winners Hamas to Moscow, slamming the move as a "knife in the back" from a key negotiator for Middle East peace.
The invititation was later backed by France as potentially positive for the peace process.
But it puzzled Washington and delivered a blow to the Jewish state's appeal to the international community to isolate the radical movement as it prepares to form a new Palestinian government.
"This initiative is a real knife in the back... because it aims to give international legitimacy to a terrorist group and we must oppose it with all our means," Education Minister Meir Sheetrit told public radio on Friday.
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Boo Hoo Israel. As if peace was something you are actually interested in. You have a lot of room to talk about terrorist nations, since you are one of the worst on the planet! And your origins are in terrorism as the first country in the middle east to use bio-WMD's against civilian populations. You make me SICK!
Posted by: Saladin at February 10, 2006 09:21 PM
Political bias affects brain activity, study finds
Democrats and Republicans both adept at ignoring facts, brain scans show
From: MSNBC
Democrats and Republicans alike are adept at making decisions without letting the facts get in the way, a new study shows.
And they get quite a rush from ignoring information that's contrary to their point of view.
Researchers asked staunch party members from both sides to evaluate information that threatened their preferred candidate prior to the 2004 Presidential election. The subjects' brains were monitored while they pondered.
The results were announced today.
"We did not see any increased activation of the parts of the brain normally engaged during reasoning," said Drew Westen, director of clinical psychology at Emory University. "What we saw instead was a network of emotion circuits lighting up, including circuits hypothesized to be involved in regulating emotion, and circuits known to be involved in resolving conflicts."
Bias on both sides
The test subjects on both sides of the political aisle reached totally biased conclusions by ignoring information that could not rationally be discounted, Westen and his colleagues say.
Then, with their minds made up, brain activity ceased in the areas that deal with negative emotions such as disgust. But activity spiked in the circuits involved in reward, a response similar to what addicts experience when they get a fix, Westen explained.
The study points to a total lack of reason in political decision-making.
"None of the circuits involved in conscious reasoning were particularly engaged," Westen said. "Essentially, it appears as if partisans twirl the cognitive kaleidoscope until they get the conclusions they want, and then they get massively reinforced for it, with the elimination of negative emotional states and activation of positive ones."
Notably absent were any increases in activation of the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex, the part of the brain most associated with reasoning.
The tests involved pairs of statements by the candidates, President George W. Bush and Senator John Kerry, that clearly contradicted each other. The test subjects were asked to consider and rate the discrepancy. Then they were presented with another statement that might explain away the contradiction. The scenario was repeated several times for each candidate.
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HAHAHA. No wonder we are doomed!
Posted by: Saladin at February 10, 2006 09:27 PM
From a diary at DKos: a video that I still cannot bring myself to watch.
I'm watching the opening of the Winter Games in Italy. Even without the benefit of chemical enhancers, it is a very colorful display.
I read some very interesting questions for Chimpy at Froomkin's White House Briefing. My favorite:
From J. Harley McIlrath:
"You pride yourself on your leadership abilities, but in moments of national crises you present yourself as just an ordinary guy wondering what the hell is going on. On 9/11 you wandered around the country in an airplane because that's what someone told you to do. Your administration's position on the attack was this: Who could have known someone would hijack airplanes and fly them into buildings?"
"During Katrina, you sat on vacation and then said, who could have known those levees would break?"
"On our failures in Iraq: I'm just giving the generals whatever they ask for. You know, I'm not on the ground. What do I know?"
"On torture: What torture? We don't torture. Whatever it is we're dong, I asked Gonzales and he says it's ok."
"On the Plame leak: Hey, I'd like to know who did it as much as the next guy. I understand there's an investigation underway. . . ."
"On invading Iraq on misinformation: Hey, I was just acting on what they told me. I didn't know the information was bad."
"My question is, isn't it your job as president to be prepared for these things? Isn't it your job to know that your intelligence is trustworthy, to know that disaster preparedness is in place, to understand the limitations of the law, to know that the White House is being run efficiently and legally? Isn't it your job to have a thorough understanding of the conduct of the war? If it's not your job, then whose job is it?"
Posted by: Pandemoniac at February 10, 2006 09:27 PM
Americans say president shouldn't suspend rights
CHICAGO (Reuters) - Most Americans believe a president should not be allowed to suspend constitutional guarantees in order to fight terrorism, a poll released on Friday said.
The poll, taken for the American Bar Association in the wake of the controversy generated by President Bush's domestic spying program, found the public divided over whether government eavesdropping on personal communications could ever be justified.
"As our poll shows, and legal scholars agree, the awesome power of government to penetrate citizens' most private communications must not be held in one set of hands," Michael Greco, the group's president, told a news conference.
"To prevent the very human temptation to abuse this power there must be checks and balances in the form of oversight by the courts and Congress," he said.
"I personally reject the false choice that is being offered Americans that they must give up their liberties to have security. We must protect both, and we can protect both," he added.
More HERE
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Nobody wants to lose any rights. ill Bush care, no not one bit.
capt
Posted by: capt at February 10, 2006 09:33 PM
Will Bush care, not ill.
Posted by: capt at February 10, 2006 09:35 PM
A poll of the people? Since when do they care about what we think?
Posted by: Saladin at February 10, 2006 09:37 PM
February 10, 2006
Supreme Court turns down Watsonville's appeal to keep fluoride out of its water
By Donna Jones
Sentinel Staff Writer
WATSONVILLE A state dental group will likely offer the city money as early as next week to fluoridate the local water supply.
For the past three years, the city has waged a legal fight against state officials to uphold a voter-approved measure that essentially banned the controversial public health effort.
But the city lost its battle Wednesday against a state law that mandates fluoridation under certain circumstances when the state Supreme Court declined to hear the city's final appeal.
"The council felt it was important because of the public vote that every legal means should be exhausted," City Manager Carlos Palacios said. "Now that the courts have made the decision, we'll have to follow it."
Previously, the Santa Cruz County Superior Court and the 6th District Court of Appeals said state fluoride law trumps local ordinance. The appeals court ruling set a precedent that opens the door for fluoridation in communities statewide.
Santa Cruz also is among several California communities where voters have turned down fluoridation.
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The voters don't want it? Well, we say different! Poison the water, if you don't like it, buy bottled. AAAARRRRGGGG!!!
Posted by: Saladin at February 10, 2006 09:49 PM
Hello Everybody,
My name is Bob and I am a Human-Animal Hybrid. As I lay in the hay I have been watching the Winter Olympics on TV. I love watching TV. Bah!
They sure are a lot of beautiful people in the Olympic. Beautiful people on skis, skates, and boards. Beautiful people in colorful outfits and carrying nifty flags. Bah!
I even see the Preznit's wife at the Olympics. And last week Condileeza was at the Superbowl.
Why doesn't the Preznit think I am beautiful? Bah! Why does the preznit shun me? Bah! Why does the preznit think I'm better off dead? Bah Baah, Bah! Why?
Posted by: Bob the Lamb at February 10, 2006 10:19 PM
OK, now, show of hands:
How many people were fooled by David Corn aiding the BushCo disinfo campaign by talking about what Bush was talking about yesterday? (ie, distracting us with chatter based upon the same Muslim hijacker affirming lie?) Now that we KNOW that we cannot blame the WTC collapses on airplanes, can we PLEASE stop blaming Muslim hijackers already?
Which is more revealing, the contents of Bush's incriminating 9/11 witness statement, or the non-reaction to it by Democrats?
WAKE UP, AMERICA!
Posted by: blimp captain at February 10, 2006 10:27 PM
Is there only one truthseeker?
I think not.
Posted by: truthseeker at February 10, 2006 10:39 PM
Ok but when you post, others will think we're one and the same. That will eventually cause problems for you and me. When you come to a new site you should defer.
Posted by: truthseeker at February 10, 2006 10:44 PM
Bob the Lamb must be that moron TRH because he spells "Condileeza" one of TRH's "accepted spelling" ways.
"And last week Condileeza was at the Superbowl."
But, maybe Bob the Lamb just likes to cover his bases, and do whatever it takes to make friends.
Posted by: truthseeker at February 10, 2006 10:45 PM
Well, there's Bob in ND and Robert Schwartz (who may answer to the name of Bob, if someone addesses him in that way), but I had not noticed a truthseeker on this site. There are a whole slew of Tims and a lot of multi-handled posters. How can you claim the truthseeker name? Could it be that you have stolen my moniker?
Posted by: truthseeker at February 10, 2006 10:51 PM
Ok: You're showing no deference and no respect - just like this fucking administration. Didn't I tell you here and email you that on this site that's my moniker? Why do you insist on using it?
Posted by: truthseeker at February 10, 2006 10:54 PM
Pandyass
What's the matter pandyass, did I hurt your feelings? Such anger from you lefties. This can't be good for your health. I am still waiting to hear your resume that you were bragging about. Since you make all the money that goes to taxes that is!!
Posted by: LBH at February 10, 2006 11:01 PM
LBH: You've so lost, You're so pathetic.
Posted by: truthseeker at February 10, 2006 11:06 PM
Pande is so much your superior - don't you see that? Everybody else does.
Posted by: truthseeker at February 10, 2006 11:08 PM
truthseeker, I agree with you that Mr. Pande is LBH's intellectual/info/factual/blogging/linkdaddy superior, so I will cease and desist and no longer post as truthseeker because we agree on the important metters. Just so we can keep things straight, I will be truthseeking
Posted by: truthseeking at February 10, 2006 11:26 PM
109 - what she said!
Posted by: James Ha at February 10, 2006 11:29 PM
I have posters of Larry Bird and Ronald Reagan hanging in my garage. Larry legend is the adopted son of Boston. God bless him him. He and Magic revived the league.
I keep a garbage can under the Ronald Reagan poster. When throwing garbage away, it'll go in if I bank in off his cheek or chin.
Posted by: Boyd at February 10, 2006 11:30 PM
Saladin,
Remember, there is still two years left in Bush's term. There have been Presidents who haven't finished their term in office (JFK). They probably don't put the end date on it because of that.
One could only hope...
Posted by: flan at February 10, 2006 11:38 PM
"I don't live in a red state. I have been married twenty years this month. My children are honor students and I have one in college on a full academic scholarship(no pregnancies). And to top it off, I make over six figures a year. What's your record?"
You sound like your keeping score. Do your kids think you're a dumb ass?
Posted by: Boyd at February 10, 2006 11:41 PM
hmmm...one who is truthseeking, side by side with a truthseeker!
here you go guys ::
911truth.org
911truthseekers.org
911sharethetruth.com
Posted by: James Ha at February 10, 2006 11:42 PM
Truthseeking: Thank you. You're a gentleman and a scholar.
Posted by: truthseeker at February 10, 2006 11:44 PM
DmReid joins the Bonobo Brigade:
"I just die laughing each time the news wire flash, Senator REID, (no-relation, thank God), took money from Abramoff, and then wrote legislation in favor of Abramoff's client. REID is such a whimpy ass joke, NV should be proud, of that jerk-off."
Posted by: Derrick Michael Reid at February 10, 2006 11:58 AM
Facts have a funny way of coming out:
"Did he (Reid) intervene on behalf of Abramoff's Marianas clients? The gist of the whole narrative is that Reid was Team Abramoff's go-to guy to kill the bill that would have hurt the Marianas sweatshop owners."
But did he actually take the bait?"
"I rung up Reid spokesman Jim Manley. He said Reid was a "cosponsor of Sen. Kennedy's bill; he spoke in favor of the bill on the Senate; he was a strong supporter of the bill." When I pressed Manley on whether Sen. Reid took any action adverse to the bill or made changes in timing that lead to the bill's demise, he said, "No."
"Then I got hold of Ron Platt, the lobbyist referenced in the passage above, on his cell phone while he was down at a conference in Florida. I asked him whether, to the best of his recollection, Reid had taken any action against the Kennedy bill. "I'm sure he didn't," Platt told me."
According to Platt, the purpose of his contacts was to see what information he could get about the timing and status of the legislation. Reid's position on the minimum wage issue was well known and there would have been no point trying to get his help blocking it. That's what Platt says. "I didn't ask Reid to intervene," said Platt. "I wouldn't have asked him to intervene. I don't think anyone else would have asked. And I'm sure he didn't."
If you want to see what it looks like when a lobbyist buys off an elected official. Here's an example:
"U.S. Sen. Conrad Burns, R-Mont., met with a Marianas official who had close ties to disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff in the weeks before Burns received an Abramoff-related $5,000 contribution from the Marianas and reversed his earlier position on a bill about the islands [...]"
"8 percent of the island's population were noncitizen immigrants, drawn to the island's garment manufacturing jobs, government reports show. At the time, workers in the factories earned a minimum of $3.05 an hour, below the U.S. minimum wage of $5.15."
"Burns voted against a bill in May 2001 that would have strengthened U.S. oversight over the commonwealth's labor and immigration laws. A little more than a year before Burns had not opposed an identical measure."
Day-old, crusty LBH is just as stinky as fresh LBH:
"Well, it turns out that Ried (sic) wrote at least four letters helpful to Indian tribes represented by Abramoff, and the Senators staff regularly had contact with the disgraced lobbyist's team about legislation affecting other clients."
Posted by: LBH at February 9, 2006 03:58
I swear, you must copy and paste most of your stuff, dude. You can't seem to spell "cat" unless we spot you the C and the A. LOL
Reid is still beating Chimpy about the ears with the Abramoff connection. The recently released emails of Abramoff, claim that he was with Chimpy on more than just Jewish Holidays. The WH is being verrrrry careful about not directly contradicting Abramoff's detailed claims of a cozy relationship with Chimpy.
As for writing letters -- Reid works for his constituents whenever he thinks that the gaming industry in his state is going to be hurt by indian casinos. Serving your constituents (instead of bilking them as Republicans like to do) is a hallmark of Democratic Congressional Reps. Reid has often spoken out against rival casinos and done work to help the Indians in other ways even before he got a dime from the Indian lobbies.
Ye olde propaganda catapult done busted a spring. Keep trying and I'll be here to hilight the lies and hypocrisy (or hippocracy -- rule by hippos, as you Bushbutts like to spell it) of the Grand Ol' Spending Party.
Posted by: Pandemoniac at February 10, 2006 11:52 PM
#129 flan and saladin, Yes, I thought the same as flan did. It could be nothing more than a "courtesy" -- besides, he could die, be impeached, resign, become (more) incapacitated, or who knows, just say, fuck it, I'm going fishing.
Posted by: micki at February 10, 2006 11:53 PM
Then on the other hand...there is this:
"The 22nd Amendment
Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice..."
Since bush was SELECTED once and theoretically elected once, maybe what the bust engraving telegraphs is that bush could be running again in '08.
We should ask the "highest legal authority in the land" AG Alberto Gonzales how he would "rule" on this...
sez Alberto, "That's just a goddamned piece of paper."
Posted by: micki at February 11, 2006 12:01 AM
132 -
hopefully you guys are BOTH scholars
Posted by: James Ha at February 11, 2006 12:03 AM
Ok, I have a question. If cheney and bush are involved in the outing of Val Plame, if they gave Libby the info and told him to spread it around how can they pardon him?
Bush is the king...I mean president. I guess he can do anything he wants.
Panda,
Thanks for the video. It looks interesting. I will watch it tomorrow.
I had a house full of teenagers this evening. EEEEEKs. Lots of sugar consumed. Oh man.
Posted by: Jeanne at February 11, 2006 12:08 AM
oh this is just too much. this sucks as much as anything does::
WASHINGTON - The Bush administration will unveil a proposal Friday to sell up to 200,000 acres of national forest land in "isolated parcels" ranging from a quarter of an acre to 20