hmmm...Who shot J.R.?

Mr. David Corn,

Interesting.

Thanks

Kirk

is Ms. Novak an investigative reporter? I'm not so sure there are any investigative reporters anymore. I could post a giant list of issues that are not being reported, much less investigated.

oh ya,...click my name to order the FREE DVD:
'CONFRONTING THE EVIDENCE: Reopen 911'

Justice Staff Saw Texas Districting As Illegal

Voting Rights Finding On Map Pushed by DeLay Was Overruled

By Dan Eggen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, December 2, 2005; Page A01

Justice Department lawyers concluded that the landmark Texas congressional redistricting plan spearheaded by Rep. Tom DeLay (R) violated the Voting Rights Act, according to a previously undisclosed memo obtained by The Washington Post. But senior officials overruled them and approved the plan.

The memo, unanimously endorsed by six lawyers and two analysts in the department's voting section, said the redistricting plan illegally diluted black and Hispanic voting power in two congressional districts. It also said the plan eliminated several other districts in which minorities had a substantial, though not necessarily decisive, influence in elections.

"The State of Texas has not met its burden in showing that the proposed congressional redistricting plan does not have a discriminatory effect," the memo concluded.

The memo also found that Republican lawmakers and state officials who helped craft the proposal were aware it posed a high risk of being ruled discriminatory compared with other options.

But the Texas legislature proceeded with the new map anyway because it would maximize the number of Republican federal lawmakers in the state, the memo said. The redistricting was approved in 2003, and Texas Republicans gained five seats in the U.S. House in the 2004 elections, solidifying GOP control of Congress.

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The Culture of Corruption has been exposed on many levels. Whether Rove ends up indicted or not the public at large have been informed. There is no un-ringing that bell.

capt

David, down boy! Unless you have some inside information from Viveca (or some other reliable source), don't assume that her conversations with Luskin will alter the case, as it relates to Rove.

Jeez Louise! Look at all the bullshit this regime shovels. They could just be shovelin' higher and deeper to save their sorry asses.

Saladin & Alan, from previous thread

I am truly humbled. I know my past on this site has not been stellar and at times downright ugly. I don't know how or why you and your fellow Cornposters put up with me long enough to even allow me a chance at redemption. I do, however, thank you all for that chance. I guess I came full circle the other evening when Hajji had his "trollspeak translator" on and he admitted it didn't change a word of my post. I may never succeed against his "conservativespeak translator" but hopefully that only means that I may disagree with a particular point and offer a reasonable opinion as to why. Now if I can only get past Capt's "Voir Dire" process. Competence is a terrible thing to waste.

One needs to be slow to form convictions, but once formed they must be defended against the heaviest odds. ~ Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948)

General Odom Calls for Immediate Exit from Iraq
United Press International

Friday 02 December 2005

Washington - The US general who used to head the National Security Agency says the only way to stabilize the Middle East is to leave Iraq.

Retired three star Lt. Gen. William Odom, writing for NiemanWatchdog.org, wrote that while President George W. Bush wants to bring democracy and stability to the Middle East, the only way to achieve that goal is for the US armed forces to get out of Iraq now.

Odom, one of the most respected US military analysts and a prominent figure at the conservative Hudson Institute in Washington, wrote, "We have seen most of our allies stand aside and engage in Schadenfreude over our painful bog-down in Iraq. Winston Churchill's glib observation, 'the only thing worse that having allies is having none,' was once again vindicated.

"There is no chance that our allies will join us in Iraq," he wrote. "... Iraq is the worst place to fight a battle for regional stability. Whose interests were best served by the US invasion of Iraq in the first place? It turns out that Iran and al-Qaida benefited the most, and that continues to be true every day US forces remain there."

I am still still e-mailing,
calling,
hoping and
praying for the
frog march.

ha ha, we have short attention spans

Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves. ~ Larry McMurtry (1936 - ), 'Lonesome Dove'

Competence, like truth, beauty and contact lenses, is in the eye of the beholder. ~ Laurence J. Peter (1919 - 1988), The Peter Principle (1969), chapter 1

Equal opportunity means everyone will have a fair chance at being incompetent. ~ Laurence J. Peter (1919 - 1988)

Everyone rises to their level of incompetence. ~ Laurence J. Peter (1919 - 1988), "The Peter Principle"

The incompetent with nothing to do can still make a mess of it. ~ Laurence J. Peter (1919 - 1988)

Capt,

Wise words!

Colours of Infinity!

PBS

An examination of the mathematical discipline known as fractal geometry; focusing on the Mandelbrot set, a geometric shape of infinite complexity. Interviewed: Dr. Benoit Mandelbrot; Prof. Stephen Hawking and Prof. Ian Stewart. Music by David Gilmour.

*****

If you can find this show in your area be sure to watch it. This is what PBS is all about. WOW!

capt

The fact that the World Trade Centers were brought down with high-explosives can be proven by the extreme temperatures which remained at ground zero for months.

Specifically, it rained heavily on September 14, 2001

Yet, as of September 18, 2001, ABC reported that "the temperature at
the core of 'the pile,' is near 2000 degrees Fahrenheit, according to fire officials, who add that the fires are too deep for firefighters to get to"

It rained again on September 21, 2001, and on some other days during the next couple months (search other dates under "History & Almanac")

Yet fires were still burning 3 months later

Indeed, the trade center fire was "the longest-burning structural fire in history"

As if that weren't enough, liquid metal and glowing debris were found at the trade centers six weeks after 9/11

Could an office fire -- even one started by burning jet fuel -- have done that? The answer is clearly negative.

PLENTY of links to back this up

I think I finally figured it out. baf is a succubus.

succubus

#14
Capt,
Thanks for the suggestion. My daughter, the artist, loves those kinds of shows. I'll tell her about it.

James Ha...you bet your ass we have short attention spans...along with journalist and the MSm. I really wish David Corn would have stayed focused on this important issue.

If the public would continue to pressure the ----ing Republican controlled congress that spent massive amounts of money and time investigating a BLOW JOB INSTEAD OF A INTELLIGENCE SNOW JOB maybe just maybe we might have an honest leg to stand on in regard to justice in this nation. Sure does not look good.

Instead people seem to go wherever the wind blows in the news..instead of staying focused on a few issues at the very least for a week or two. I am getting tired of hammering on demanding that these --cks implement Phase II. I was very worried when it fell off the radar almost as quickly as it came on...

NEXT WEEK PEOPLE NEED TO CALL THE SLEAZY SENATOR PAT ROBERTS AND GIVE THEM A PIECE OF THEIR MINES ..THIS SLIMEBALL HAS BEEN STALLING FOR EVER ON THIS ISSUE. HE NEEDS A BLOW JOB TO INVESTIGATE...I AM SICKENED BY THESE CRIMINALS

READ THE LASTEST FROM RAW STORY

Senate Intelligence Committee stalling pre-war intelligence report
12/02/2005 @ 11:54 am
Filed by Larisa Alexandrovna

Phase II, the follow-up to the Senate Intelligence Committee’≥ investigation into pre-war intelligence on Iraq, is still facing opposition from administration officials and has seen little action from the committee’≥ chairman, Senator Pat Roberts (R-KS), RAW STORY has learned.

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Following a surprising move early last month by Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D -NV), in which he shut down the Senate in an effort to force discussion on the inquiry, the Senate leadership established a six member bipartisan task force and set a Nov. 15 deadline for a progress report.

The six task force members selected were Senators Jay Rockefeller (D-WV), Carl Levin (D-MI), Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), Pat Roberts (R–ãS), Trent Lott (R–çS) and Kit Bond (R-MO).

A week later, on Nov. 8, the Senate Intelligence Committee staff briefed task force members on the investigative work done thus far.

The full Intelligence Committee met Nov. 9 for a briefing from staff, but according to Senate sources close to the Intel Committee, the task force is ҵnable to provide a timeline for Phase II completion.ӊ
To date, there has been no Phase II report.

Senior Democratic Senate aides familiar with the task forceճ activities say Republicans are stonewalling. One aide, who asked not to be named citing the secrecy of the investigation, explained that without the power of subpoena, Democrats are left with few options. Ґhase II is dead,Ӡthe staffer said.

Others familiar with the task force say some progress is being made, citing draft reports on two areas of focus:

-The postwar findings about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction and weapons programs and links to terrorism and how they compare with prewar assessments.

-Prewar intelligence assessments about postwar Iraq.

Exactly who has seen these drafts and what is in them remains a mystery. ҅verything remains to be seen,Ӡone source said.

Key Areas of Focus

Phase II is the second part of a larger investigation into pre-war planning and post-invasion failures. Phase I focused primarily on intelligence failures by the CIA, while Phase II focuses on five specific areas of inquiry:

-Whether public statements and reports and testimony regarding Iraq by U.S. Government officials made between the Gulf War period and the commencement of Operation Iraqi Freedom were substantiated by intelligence information;

-The postwar findings about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction and weapons programs and links to terrorism and how they compare with prewar assessments;

-Prewar intelligence assessments about conditions to be expected in postwar Iraq;

-Any intelligence activities relating to Iraq conducted by the Policy Counterterrorism Evaluation Group (PCTEG) and the Office of Special Plans within the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy; and

-The use by the Intelligence Community of information provided by the Iraqi National Congress (INC).

Feith and the Office of Special Plans

Part of the delay is due to resistance from the Pentagon regarding its ultra-secretive Office of Special Plans (OSP). The group was set up by then Deputy Secretary of Defense, Paul Wolfowitz and Undersecretary of Defense for Policy, Doug Feith. OSP was considered by many Defense Department officers and staff to be highly paranoid, secretive cabal of ideologues bent on creating a war with Iraq.

The group was tasked with finding intelligence that fit the administration’≥ anti-Iraq policy.

The Pentagon has specifically refused to address Feith's role and the activities of OSP.

Members of OSP included Larry Franklin, now charged with conspiracy to leak classified and defense information to a Washington pro-Israel lobby; Iran Contra player Michael Ledeen, hired by Feith as a consultant; and Harold Rhode, a staunch anti-Muslim said to have been directly involved in purging the DOD of anyone opposing the anti-Iraq policy who Feith also brought on as a consultant.

Other, Ҷisiting,Ӡplayers in the group included the now-discredited German intelligence source , ҃urveballӻ Ahmed Chalabi, head of the Iraqi National Congress, who fed bogus intelligence to the Pentagon and U.S. papers; and New York Times reporter Judith Miller, who conveyed Chalabiճ falsehoods to the American body politic.

Under orders from Feith, Ledeen, Rhode and Franklin made un-authorized trips to meet with Manucher Ghorbanifar, another Iran Contra figure, in Rome and Paris in 2001, 2002 and 2003. The meetings have yet to be explained, but some suspect they are linked to the Niger forgeries.

More documents are needed

Democratic senators on the Phase II task force have requested interviews and documents from Feithճ office regarding Chalabi, the Iraqi National Congress and ҃urveball,Ӡbut have been denied access.

According to a Nov. 14 status report memo written by Democratic task force members Rockefeller, Levin and Feinstein, no agreement could be reached on how to handle Feith’≥ office, which has rebuffed requests for pre-war documentation and interviews for a year and a half.

The memo noted that Chairman Roberts asked the Defense Department inspector general to investigate Feith’≥ office and his activities, thus deferring a Senate inquiry.

Democrats expressed concern that the ҉nspector General[ճ] review should not take the place of the authorized Committee investigation and that it is essential that the Committee insist on the documents and interviews that the Department of Defense has denied us for the past two years, even if it means using the Committee's subpoena power.ӊ
Subpoena power –†the power to legally compel testimony and documents -- rests solely in the hands of Chairman Roberts, who has not indicated any interest in forcing the Pentagon’≥ hand. An earlier RAW STORY investigation of Roberts revealed a pattern of collusion with the Vice President’≥ office not only in stalling the investigation of pre-war intelligence, but also in thwarting inquiries into allegations of torture by the US military, the Niger forgeries and the outing of covert CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson.

Sources close to the Intelligence Committee say that the three Republicans on the task force -- Lott, Roberts and Bond -- have yet to provide the agreed-upon progress report to Sen. Frist and Sen. Reid.

“îhey claimed they were verbally in touch with Frist so it wasn’¥ necessary," a senior Senate aide said.

Democrats are also pressing for documents and interviews which would cast light on the Vice Presidentճ role in stalling the investigation and in withholding documents. They cite ҉troubling reports that the Office of the Vice President overruled White House lawyers and withheld documents from Committee will require that we undertake additional interviews to obtain a complete picture of how faulty intelligence made its way into Secretary of State Colin Powell's February 2003 speech before the United Nations.ӊ
Some insiders question whether the Office of Special Plans, and Feith in particular, violated the 1947 National Security Act.

The Act requires the heads of all departments to:

“´eep the congressional intelligence committees fully and currently informed of all intelligence activities, other than a covert action (as defined in section 503(e)), which are the responsibility of, are engaged in by, or are carried out for or on behalf of, any department, agency, or entity of the United States Government, including any significant anticipated intelligence activity and any significant intelligence failure; and

(2) furnish the congressional intelligence committees any information or material concerning intelligence activities, other than covert actions, which is within their custody or control, and which is requested by either of the congressional intelligence committees in order to carry out its authorized responsibilities.Ӡ
҉f Feithճ office was running intelligence activities that were unauthorized or not in compliance with this National Security Act and other legal requirements, then the activity may have been unlawful,Ӡa source said.

Others remain optimistic. During a Nov. 4 press conference, Sen. Levin said, ҉ just want to say that we're determined that this be finished, it be finished promptly, and it be finished thoroughly,ӠLevin said. Ҕhere is no justification for anything less than that. We owe it to the American people. We owe it to the families of the men and women who have given their lives and who have been injured in this combat.ӊ

Bush takes Cheney out of the loop on national security

The role of Vice President Dick Cheney as the administration's point man in security policy appears over, according to administration sources.

"Cheney's influence has waned not only because of bad chemistry, but because the White House no longer formulates policy," another source said.

"There's nothing to input into. Cheney is smart and knowledgeable, but he as well as Bush are ducking all the time to avoid the bullets."

The sources said the indictment and resignation of Lewis "Scooter" Libby marked the final straw in the deterioration of relations between President Bush and Mr. Cheney. They said Bush aides expect that any trial of Mr. Libby, Mr. Cheney's long-time chief of staff, would open a closet of skeletons regarding such issues as Iraq, the CIA and the conduct of White House aides.

"There's a lack of trust that the president has in Cheney and it's connected with Iraq," a source said.

The sources said Mr. Bush has privately blamed Mr. Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld for the U.S.-led war in Iraq. They said the president has told his senior aides that the vice president and defense secretary provided misleading assessments on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, as well as the capabilities of the regime of Saddam Hussein.

As a result, the sources said, Mr. Cheney has been ousted from his role as the administration's point man in the area of national security. They said presidential staffers have kept Mr. Cheney out of the loop on discussions on policy as the White House has struggled with the political and intelligence fallout from the war in Iraq.

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How delirious is Bunnypants to think that Cheney is making him look bad?

capt

The Colours of Infinity: The Beauty, and Power of Fractals (Paperback)

The Colours of Infinity: The Beauty, and Power of Fractals (Book and DVD)

The consensus here is: The BEST show we have seen about fractals, one of the best in general I have ever seen. Simply amazing. The show will make you think of the world differently.

capt

From IMDB:

Plot Summary for
The Colours of Infinity (1995) (TV)

Arthur C. Clarke presents this unusual documentary on the mathematical discovery of the Mandelbrot Set (M-Set) in the visually spectacular world of fractal geometry. This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself. Dr. Mandelbrot in 1980 discovered the infinitely complex geometrical shape called the Mandelbrot Set using a very simple equation with computers and graphics.

kathleen,
what's phase II again? I forget....
just kidding. just keep bringing it up over and over and over and over, even if you feel that people will think that you're harping or nagging or even beating a dead horse about it. keep it uncomfortably in everyone's face so they don't forget. that tactic is obviously working out well for me, ha. here's a secret that might help keep you in the fight; it has for me::
despite what a certain succubus sez about the number of people who see this blog, it gets a very great number of hits each day. I know because I asked, and if even 1% of that total read the comments then you have reached a good many people. so don't give up doll! keep hammering your point home! rome wasn't torn down in a day you know...

#21
Capt,
I found the listing for my area. I'll be watching it.

#19
What a mess this administration has gotten themselves into. Cheney can't lead because he wasn't elected. Nobody would have voted for him. And Bush can't lead because...well, because he's incompetent.
By the way wouldn't it be funny in a strange sort of way if he turned out be a great leader. Like he realized he had to do the job and he ended up being good?
Dream the imposssible dream.

James
There are so many things that have to be pushed forward on. That's the scary thing about this administration. They are a walking, breathing, eating mistake. People made a major mistake when they went to the polls and voted for these guys. They were voting for cons. They were voting for criminals. But the people thought they were voting for a great Christian man. I don't think they were voting for Cheney or Rumsfeld or anybody else. They were voting for the cowboy and the good Christian man.

Everything this administration touches crumbles. There are so many things wrong that it almost works to their advantage. It's hard to coordinate in a cohesive way. We who see the problems keep demanding action. But there are so many directions that we are all demanding different things.

But, Kathleen is right, Phase 2 is critical. We all have to push for that. Emails need to be written and phone calls need to be made.

David, the fucken douche bag Corn hole, is lying again about the fact that it was Joe Wilson and he, David the fucken douche bag Corn hole, that outed Wilson's CIA secretary wife.

Critical thought... the other national deficit

Jeanne -
I'm afraid the phase II investigation will turn out like the 911 commission:: a total whitewash - but it IS critical because we are seeing it from it's early stages, and if we're loud enough and lucky enough people might pick up the ball -

one thing you sed::
They are a walking, breathing, eating mistake.
ya, america made a huge mistake, but I think for bushco, they are NOT making a mistake - how much does this war of terror cost? 1.5 BILLION/week? where does that go? 'defense' contractors, oil companies, 'rebuilding' contractors - lord only knows where else it goes - on 9/10/01, rumsfeld admitted that the pentagon could not account for some $2 TRILLION - how much of all this makes it's way into bushco's pockets? - sure they seem like bumbling fools, but they are laughing all the way to the bank.

timo,
How dare you call David:

David, the fucken douche bag Corn hole,

you forgot:
lying, piece of skunk shit, ass munch, dick licker.

David, the fucken douche bag Corn hole, lying, piece of skunk shit, ass munch, dick licker.

There, that's better

A Clear Strategy – for Disaster

by Ray McGovern

The bromide-heavy speech that President George W. Bush gave Wednesday at the Naval Academy presents a clear strategy for continued quagmire and eventual disaster in Iraq. Despite the gathering storm of opposition to the administration's approach to the war in Iraq, the speech was long on tired clichés and bereft of new ideas, calling to mind the words of Emerson: "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."

The problem is that this hobgoblin has consequences. Bush's renewed warning of a future "Islamic empire from Indonesia to Spain" at first seemed to me as outlandish as President Ronald Reagan's warning that the Russians planned to land in Nicaragua in order to invade Texas. Now it seems that Bush's concern may become self-fulfilling prophecy, since the course he is on could hardly be better designed to usher in an eventual Islamic, rather than American, "empire."

Who Rules America

The Greatest Debt-Beat President in History

George W. Bush will go down in history not as a great war president, we recall predicting earlier this week, but as the greatest debt-beat president the country has ever had. In his few years in office, the feds have borrowed more than $1.05 trillion from foreign governments and banks. This is more than all the rest of the nation’≥ administrations put together, from 1776 to 2000.

Last month, the U.S. national debt passed the $8 trillion mark. This year’≥ budget deficit alone added $319 billion to the country’≥ obligations. According to the feds themselves, deficits will rise to $873 billion per year within 10 years. Two years more and they will be at $1 trillion per year, with a national debt edging up to $20 trillion. By 2017, annual deficits are supposed to reach $2 trillion per year.

These figures are not just guesses. They’≤e projections based on boondoggle laws already on the books.

According to the Bush-friendly Heritage Foundation, federal deficits are expected to rise to $1 trillion per year, by the year 2017, with a $16 trillion national debt, twice today’≥ level. After that, deficits should grow to $2 trillion per year,

Mr. Corn makes the same mistake that the Mayberry Machiavellians make: they misunderestimate Fitzgerald. VivaK isn't trying to rescue Rove nor is she trying to "smoke him out." She's just a pawn in the hands of a greater Chess Master, P. Fitzgerald, Esq.

She is trapped in the same manner that Woodward was. She was within spitting distance of Rove.

Remember the reactionary credo: Deny, delay, obfuscate.

Remember the initial "what? Plame was a CIA agent?" The Cheney Administration denied knowing anything about the leak or having anything to do with it.

The Cheney Administration's first alibi (after denying having anything to do with the matter) was that they all heard it (Plame's undercover CIA status) from the press. At that point, every single Journo with access to Rove got a bad case of sphincter cramps. Like Li'l Russ, Mrs. Greenspan, Le Douchebag d'Liberty, Cooper, Judas Miller, Woodward and Jeffy Lube, VivaK has to make sure that she doesn't get hung out to dry by these liars. Rather than get sucked under by the political undertow, she tried to set the record straight. No more. No less.

This is ultimately why Fitzie won't pull the trigger on Rove because some meathead like Rich Lowry will come to his defense and say "it was me -- I told them about Valerie Plame." Fitzie has to keep his powder dry until he smokes all the journalistic vermin from the henhouse.

To enhance the slow-roast effect, Fitzie is closing all of the exits; and letting the Cheneyites sweat it out.

The timeline is amusing:
Rove talks to the press about Plame. Rove emails Hadley to say he talked to Cooper. A couple of days later, July 2003, Novak writes about it. Mr. Corn sounds the alarm. The WH is immediately under pressure to figure out who talked to the press. This sends flares up Rove's ass: Who did he talk to? And who blabbed? What kind of a paper trail did he leave? Would they find the email that he sent to Hadley? Were there other emails on the same subject? No worries. Tortureboy Gonzales gives Andrew Card a 12 hour headstart to begin the papershredding party. The WH goes into "deny and delay" mode. Scottie swears that Nobody in the WH talked to the press, ESPECIALLY Rove and Libby. Then in September, the case moves from Ashcroft's bloodstained hands to Fitzie's deadly mitts. Everybody goes into asscovering mode. Chimpy and Scotty clam up. Fitzie sends out Subpoenas for all relevant documents. Rove forgets to mention his conversation with Cooper. Cooper clams up. Didn't have permission to talk to Fitzie about Rove? What about Rove's email to Hadley about his Coopertalk? It was just too damned hard to find.

According to the rumors about VivaK, she talked to Rove's fixers in May 2004 and gave them a head's up on Cooper's interaction with Rove. They could've "looked harder" for that Hadley email. They could've come clean about their connection to the Plame story. But all this was at a time when Chimpy was getting punked by Kerry. Admitting that they were lying about outing Plame would've done serious damage (as it has since).

There's an election to be won; and there are piles of lies to tell. Besides, Rove is counting on Fitzie looking the other way, Fitzie's a Republican afterall. Rove's also counting on Cooper doing the Noble thing and refusing to testify. The Genius (LOL) was wrong on both counts. On October 13, 2004, a judge sent Cooper to the pokey for not giving up Rove. The heat was on for Cooper to avoid being Ray Ray's boytoy in jail; so he turned on Rove. And Magically, the Hadley email suddenly is "found" two days later, October 15, 2005.

At this point Rove has royally pissed off Mr. Fitzgerald. He has lied, withheld evidence, stalled his investigation.

Unless Vivak is testifying that she is the goose that laid the golden egg in the WH (informed the Cheneyites about the Plame-Wilson connection). Nothing she tells Fitzgerald will convince him that Rove is anything other than a lying sack of putrid pigflesh.

TRH, not succubus, Bushbutt -- just some sadass kid misusing his mom's AOL dialup.

timo & bore

Congratulations! Combined, you make up 1/2 a brain. I'll leave it up to you to fight over who has the greater half.

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years....It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."

David Rockefeller - Bilderberg Meeting - June 1991 - Baden, Germany

Pandemoniac #33

Thanks for the laugh. The links were classics. At least give the first guy the benefit of the doubt. Maybe his last name is Moran.

TRH, I am beginning to suspect that somebody is playing a very unfunny joke on us. I think some crazy liberal is coming here pretending to be a bushbutt to make them all seem like uninformed children. I know there are intelligent, well-read, folks out there who still defend the President and the Party of Lincoln. But other than Joe Lieberman and Hillary, I can't think of any.

Hasta Mañana, dude.

Pandemoniac,

Si, yo comprendo. Buenos noches.

32
timo and bore are
said:
Mr. Corn makes the same mistake that the Mayberry Machiavellians make:
they misunderestimate Fitzgerald.

misunderestimate?????

where the hell did you dig that up?

and you call trolls ignorant.
When I can't think of the appropriate word to get my point across, I never just make one up.

I've never thought of just making up words to get a point across.

How about this?

You are a stupid gerblitzen.

misunderestimate

timo and boer must love Bush. Bush used that term once in a remark once, as a little joke about his own vocabulary.

I think timo and boer didn't realize President Bush was making a joke.

"I am beginning to suspect that somebody is playing a very unfunny joke on us."

If true (and I have suspected the same thing) a very unfunny joke indeed.

capt

Re: #37: Pande voices a suspicion I've been having lately as well. I began suspecting the other day when Baf boasted of having been a bully. Now, one might CONFESS to that--"I did that when I was a stupid kid" or "I did that before I found the Lord"--but no one would boast of that. He, and many other trolls, come off as so over-the-top I wonder if any true rightists actually talk that way. The misspellings also raise suspicion--even people who aren't good spellers can use the spell-check feature. Someone arguing for the rightist position on this blog, it seems to me, would want to make his/her spelling and grammar top-notch so as not to give us room to dismiss them as semi-literates.

I have read that many men of the Sikh religion take "Singh" as one of their names. My visits to this blog make me wonder if there is a similar custom among members of the Bushevik cult, in which many take some variant of the name "Tim". ;)

I'll have to get back to work before too long (although I can take long breaks Friday nights); those trees won't peck themselves, you know.

From the swamps of Arkansas, Ivory Bill Woodpecker

un funny joke, comments,

I heard a rumor that David hires people to come here and antagonize posters, to liven up the blog.

FBI Is Taking Another Look at Forged Prewar Intelligence

By Peter Wallsten,
Tom Hamburger and Josh Meyer,
Times Staff Writers

WASHINGTON —†The FBI has reopened an inquiry into one of the most intriguing aspects of the pre-Iraq war intelligence fiasco: how the Bush administration came to rely on forged documents linking Iraq to nuclear weapons materials as part of its justification for the invasion.

The documents inspired intense U.S. interest in the buildup to the war —†and they led the CIA to send a former ambassador to the African nation of Niger to investigate whether Iraq had sought the materials there. The ambassador, Joseph C. Wilson IV, found little evidence to support such a claim, and the documents were later deemed to have been forged.

But President Bush referred to the claim in his 2003 State of the Union address in making the case for the invasion. Bush's speech, Wilson's trip and the role Wilson's wife played in sending him have created a political storm that still envelops the White House.

The documents in question included letters on Niger government letterhead and purported contracts showing sales of uranium to Iraq. They were provided in 2002 to an Italian magazine, which turned them over to the U.S. Embassy in Rome.

The FBI's decision to reopen the investigation reverses the agency's announcement last month that it had finished a two-year inquiry and concluded that the forgeries were part of a moneymaking scheme —†and not an effort to manipulate U.S. foreign policy.

Those findings concerned some members of the Senate Intelligence Committee after published reports that the FBI had not interviewed a former Italian spy named Rocco Martino, who was identified as the original source of the documents. The committee had requested the initial investigation.

"This is such a high-profile issue for a lot of reasons, and we think it's important to make sure there aren't lingering questions," said an aide to Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), vice chairman of the Intelligence Committee. "There's always a chance that you do a little more investigating and you uncover something you hadn't seen before or you hadn't realized."

A senior federal law enforcement official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the investigation, confirmed late Friday that the bureau had reopened the inquiry.

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This is a bit of good news, eh?

capt

FBI Is Taking Another Look at Forged Prewar Intelligence

Cities voice opposition to war in Iraq
Resolutions part of trend, experts say

BY JOHN YAUKEY
GANNETT NEWS

December 2, 2005

WASHINGTON -- Cities don't make foreign policy.

But that hasn't stopped dozens of towns from Berkeley, Calif., to Chicago to Cambridge, Mass., from passing resolutions calling for withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq.

The resolutions typically note the growing U.S. military death toll, now more than 2,100, as well as the financial burden, approaching a quarter-trillion dollars. The Chicago City Council calculated it could pay more than 31,000 teachers for a year with its annual share of the war cost.

It's part of what polls indicate and social observers say is a growing antiwar sentiment among Americans now exhausted from the war, if not philosophically against it.

"I follow the news, and it's painful," said Michigan resident Deborah Regal, a member of the antiwar group Military Families Speak Out and the mother of a Marine in Iraq. "It just grinds you down to the point where you're very conscious of every day that passes because you know what the troops are going through."

Keenly aware of this, President George W. Bush sought to shore up support for the war Wednesday by outlining a 35-page plan for stabilizing Iraq and eventually withdrawing U.S. troops.

"This will take time and patience," he said.

But the war is straining the endurance of even stalwart supporters of the invasion nearly three years ago. The antiwar movement got a major boost two weeks ago when Rep. John Murtha, a hawkish Democrat from Pennsylvania and a former Marine, called for a rapid U.S. troop pullout, claiming Iraq cannot be won militarily.

Former Marine Ken Rogers considers himself a patriot, and his views on the war now align with Murtha's.

"Our guys are going over there and getting their butts shot off, for what?" the 40-year-old Tennessean said. "We have overstayed our welcome in Iraq."

Iraq is approaching critically important Dec. 15 parliamentary elections. If the elections fail to unite Iraqis and the country appears to be slipping into civil war, the call for a withdrawal could further intensify

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Seems like a clear message that the people are not with Bush or the war.

capt

Bullet Points over Baghdad

By Paul Krugman

12/02/05 "New York Times" -- -- The National Security Council document released this week under the grandiose title "National Strategy for Victory in Iraq" is neither an analytical report nor a policy statement. It's simply the same old talking points - "victory in Iraq is a vital U.S. interest"; "failure is not an option" - repackaged in the style of a slide presentation for a business meeting.

It's an embarrassing piece of work. Yet it's also an important test for the news media. The Bush administration has lost none of its confidence that it can get away with fuzzy math and fuzzy facts - that it won't be called to account for obvious efforts to mislead the public. It's up to journalists to prove that confidence wrong.

Here's an example of how the White House attempts to mislead: the new document assures us that Iraq's economy is doing really well. "Oil production increased from an average of 1.58 million barrels per day in 2003, to an average of 2.25 million barrels per day in 2004." The document goes on to concede a "slight decrease" in production since then.

We're not expected to realize that the daily average for 2003 includes the months just before, during and just after the invasion of Iraq, when its oil industry was basically shut down. As a result, we're not supposed to understand that the real story of Iraq's oil industry is one of unexpected failure: instead of achieving the surge predicted by some of the war's advocates, Iraqi production has rarely matched its prewar level, and has been on a downward trend for the past year.

What about the security situation? During much of 2004, the document tells us: "Fallujah, Najaf, and Samara were under enemy control. Today, these cities are under Iraqi government control."

Najaf was never controlled by the "enemy," if that means the people we're currently fighting. It was briefly controlled by Moktada al-Sadr's Mahdi Army. The United States once vowed to destroy that militia, but these days it's as strong as ever. And according to The New York Times, Mr. Sadr has now become a "kingmaker in Iraqi politics." So what sort of victory did we win, exactly, in Najaf?

James #30

"You know, by the time you become the leader of a country, someone else makes all the decisions, you may find you can get away with virtual presidents, virtual prime ministers, virtual everything."

Bill Clinton
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That is the awful truth. We think we have a democratic republic, but we have no such thing, and haven't since before the wilson administration.

HEIL HITLER! IT HAS BEGUN

By Devvy Kidd

"If we wish to be free, if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending, if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained - we must fight!" Patrick Henry

Anyone who doesn't recognize that a police state is being erected right in front of their eyes is either in a state of denial or welcomes a repeat of Nazi Germany under Adolph Hitler. Two months ago a woman named Deborah Davis was reading a book while riding to work on a public bus. When her bus stopped outside the gates of the Denver Federal Center in Lakewood, Colorado (only three miles from my former home in Lakewood), a guard climbed aboard the bus and demanded that all the passengers produce identification. Mrs. Davis didn't bite:

"I told him that I did have identification, but I wasn't going to show it to him," Davis explains. "I knew that I wasn't required by law to show ID and that's why I decided I wasn't going to. The whole thing seemed to be more about compliance than security."

The Bill of Rights is just that: rights, not privileges and no federal or state agency can violate our rights as reaffirmed by the Bill of Rights. These are rights we are all born with, no government gave them to us nor can they take them away. These precious tenets are the very foundation of our Republic. In Miller v. U.S., 230 F., 2nd 286, 489 the court said: "The claim and exercise of a Constitutional Right cannot be converted into a crime."
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Devvy is one of my favorites. This article shows just what we are losing, at warp speed. If people can't figure that out, all the harping about Phase II won't do a bit of good.

Everything is going great in Iraq! Don't you guys remember the purple fingers!?! Mission Accomplished!?! Bizzaro Iraq is going to be great!
Just like Bizzarro America!

It hurts less if you dont fight it!

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.

Here is just one chilling example of what has been lost already, but no one even noticed.

Since 1999, We the People Foundation for Constitutional Education, Inc., based in New York and headed up by Robert Schulz, have petitioned the federal government to answer serious, legitimate questions regarding the legitimacy of the federal income tax and the deliberate misapplication of Title 26 against domestic Americans.

Since 1999, not one single employee, agent or representative of the IRS or the DOJ have felt the need to answer the questions of the people. As is typical with a tyrannical government, these servants of the people have forgotten something very important: This government was created of, by and for the people of these united States of America and the power still lies with the people.

A senior IRS official by the name of Terry Lemons made the following proclamation in response to a question by David Cay Johnston of the NY Times: Why won't the IRS answer the questions set forth in the petitions from We the People Foundation?

According to Johnston, Lemons said the government is answering our Petitions through "enforcement actions."

The government will now answer legitimate petitions for redress of grievance under the First Amendment through the use of brute force because that’s exactly what the IRS’ "enforcement actions" amount to every day of the week.
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Translation, "We will answer your petition by taking away everything you own and throwing your ass in jail!"

First Amendment, RIP.

THE GLOBAL ELITE: WHO ARE THEY?

By Patrick Wood

The above quote by clinton in my post #47 is something to pay close attention to, he knew what he was talking about because he is a member of the Trilateral Commission, along with George HW, and Cheney. Keep in mind this group, as well as the CFR, was started by David Rockefeller. I always laugh when I see the scathing comments made against the left and right, by the left and right, as if one side or the other were entirely to blame for our troubles. The reality is the members that make up these globalist groups are from both sides of the isle. They all have the exact same goals, and have for decades. The goal is entirely Socialist in nature, so when the repub wannabes start pointing fingers at the left with accusations of communism it is out of ignorance, or in the case of those who refuse to read the history of these groups, stupidity.

"The most damning argument ever launched against the Trilateral Commission is the unconstitutional influence of other governments and forces upon the U.S. For instance, Commission members are not elected nor representative of the general population of the U.S., yet they effectively dominated the Executive Branch of the U.S. government. When the Commission resolved policies (behind closed-doors) with non-U.S. members, who were a mere one-third minority, could it be said that foreign influences effectively controlled U.S. policy?

These concerns were never addressed by Congress or the Judiciary. The Executive branch would have nothing to address because it has been continuously dominated by Commission members -- who repeatedly assured us that there was no such conflict of interest. Of course, the answer to these questions are self-evident: U.S. interests, economic and political, have been subverted."

The economic subversion of the U.S. was studied in The August Review's For Sale: The United States of America and was likened to the plundering of a nation, the likes of which have not been seen in modern history.
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The truth is out there, ignorance is no excuse anymore. If we do not stop this fruitless left-right civil war, these globalists will accomplish their goals, and believe me, it will not be to the benefit of "we the people." The decay has already begun.

Cheney order to shoot down United Flight 93 confirmed again

Wayne Madsen | December 3 2005

Vice President Dick Cheney ordered two U.S. Air Force fighters to shoot down United flight 93 over Shanksville, Pennsylvania on September 11, 2001, according to an intelligence officer who was monitoring the flow of intelligence between the Pentagon and the White House that morning.

After the target was identified as United flight 93, Cheney gave the order to engage the target and shoot it down.

There have been previous reports that Cheney ordered the shoot down.
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But what about that heart-breaking story of courage under the box cutters of doom?? Hollywood is making a movie about it!

James Ha and Jeanne, Don't you ever just get tired of all of this? I have been hammering on the Phase II implementation for over a year now...hard. I have been hammering FOR AN investigation of the OFFICE OF SPECIAL PLANS..THE WHITE HOUSE IRAQ GROUP AND THE COUNTERTERROISM EVALUATION GROUP ever since I read about these groups in articles written by Justin Raimando and Juliean Borger, Sidney Blumenthal. I hammered really hard after I heard early on that they were all "OFF LIMITS" TO PHASE I.
I have been sending in petitions to our representatives, I have lobbied in their offices, emailing getting others to call and visit I have been getting on radio shows asking the questions that many journalist are not asking, I have been begging people like David Corn, Arianna Huffington, Diane Rehm, Move on Code PInk Global exchange...Chris Matthews and so many more to please stay focused on this issue.

To watch our nation be distracted and consumed with an investigation about lying about a blow job. To watch this Republican controlled congress even consider not fully implementing Phase II to investigate every ounce every individual involved with the false intelligence that has taken our nation into a war....is utterly disgusting and outrageous.

I am really close to giving up. I am tired of fighting. I am 53 and still working on many of the same issues that I was working on in my 20's...

I know we hear people say these things and I do know some folks who have followed through and left this country. I have never considered so seriously getting out of here. Why keep hitting your head against a brick wall?

Kathleen, I want to strongly encourage you to read the 3 part series I posted above regarding the global elite. They are not fictional, they are not part of a conspiracy theory either. But it will provide an understanding of why we seem to get nowhere with our reps. I have been thinking of how this current administration has been getting away with the most blatant and corrupt rape and pillage of this country to ever occur. My theory is that they are taking while the taking is good, and being allowed to get away with it because the global plans for our country are almost complete. Americe is going down, it will be absorbed into a world order whose goal is to bring about economic and military hegemony over all nations. Think that sounds crazy? Me too, but the proof is all around us.

We have been distracted by pebbles on the train tracks while the train itself is heading straight off the cliff.

The 9/11 Attacks As "Opportunities"

David Ray Griffin

One way to approach this question would be to ask whether these attacks brought benefits to this administration that could reasonably have been anticipated.

There is no doubt that the attacks brought benefits. Indeed, several members of the Bush administration publicly said so. The president himself declared that the attacks provide "a great opportunity." Donald Rumsfeld stated that 9/11 created "the kind of opportunities that World War II offered, to refashion the world." Condoleeza Rice had said the same thing in mind, telling senior members of the National Security Council to "think about 'how do you capitalize on these opportunities' to fundamentally change...the shape of the world." The National Security Strategy of the United States of America, issued by the Bush administration in September 2002, said: "The events of September 11, 2001, opened vast, new opportunities."

Of course, the fact that these members of the Bush administration described attacks as opportunities after the fact does not necessarily mean that they could have anticipated in advance that attacks of this nature would bring such opportunities. However, all of these statements, except for the last one, were made shortly after 9/11. If the benefits could be seen so soon after the attacks, we can assume that, if these people were thinking about such attacks ahead of time, they could have anticipated that they would create these opportunities.
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Think about what these psychos said,

Donald Rumsfeld stated that 9/11 created "the kind of opportunities that World War II offered, to refashion the world."

They come right out and say it for God's sake! I have spoken with many people about this subject. Many find it impossible to believe that our own govt. would betray America this way. And that would be a valid argument, IF the govt. was loyal to America, but they aren't. Their globalist agenda trumps any and all American interests. Their loyalty lies elsewhere. How else can you explain the nightmare we have been living for the past 5 years?

From the previous blog!

#153 Hajji, who is corky's mom?

#145 geo01, I will google the Katrina Vanden Huevel. I read the reviews of the Davinci Code but not the book. The book is well written and sells but after my encounter with death I have read at least five books on the Historical Jesus and I have a different view than the ones presented in the Davinci Code. I do read posts from Saladin, micki, Jeanne, and kathleen. You did mention Katherine but maybe you mean kathleen? I remember Katherine from Arianna's old website. She is from Louisiana and has posted good responses and ideas. I do not recall her name on David Corn's website.

From:

9/11: Possible Motives Of The Bush Administration by Dr. David Ray Griffin

Generating Funds For The US Space Command

One dimension of the "revolution in military affairs" discussed in the PNAC document is so important as to deserve separate treatment. This dimension is the militarization of space, which is now the province of a new branch of the American military, the US Space Command.

The purpose of this branch is to bring about "full spectrum dominance." The idea is that the US military, with its air force, army, and navy, is already dominant in the air and on land and sea. The US Space Command will now ensure dominance in space. "Vision for 2020," a document published by the US Space Command, puts it thus: "The emerging synergy of space superiority with land, sea, and air superiority, will lead to Full Spectrum Dominance."

The government's description of spending for the US Space Command as spending for "missile defense" makes its mission sound purely defensive augmenting "homeland security" by defending the United States from missile attacks. The mission statement in "Vision for 2020," however, states: "U.S. Space Command dominating the space dimension of military operations to protect US interests and investment." Its primary purpose, in other words, is not to protect the American homeland but to protect American investments abroad. Such protection will be needed, it says, because "[t]he globalization of the world economy will continue with a widening between 'haves' and 'have-nots.'" The mission of the US Space Command, it is clear, is to protect the American "haves" from the world's "have-nots," as American-led globalization leaves these "have-nots" with even less.

The first part involves space-based surveillance technology, through which US military leaders can identify enemies of US forces anywhere on the planet.

The second part involves putting up space weapons, such as laser cannons, with which the United States will be able to destroy the satellites of other countries. "Vision for 2020" frankly states its desire to be able "to deny others the use of space."

The third part of the program is usually called, the "missile defense shield," but its purpose, like that of the first two parts, is offensive.

As Rebuilding America's Defenses said (in a passage called "a remarkable admission" by Rahul Mahajan):

In the post-Cold-War era. America and its allies...have become the primary objects of deterrence and it is states like Iraq, Iran and North Korea who most wish to develop deterrent capabilities. Projecting conventional military forces... will be far more complex and constrained when the American homeland...is subject to attack by otherwise weak rogue regimes capable of cobbling together a minuscule ballistic missile force. Building an effective...system of missile defenses is a prerequisite for maintaining American preeminence.

The purpose of the "missile defense shield," in other words, is not to deter other countries from launching a first strike against the United States. Its purpose is to prevent other countries from being able to deter the United States from launching a first strike against them.
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We need to stop worrying about the pebbles and start concentrating on the cliff!

Gerald, corky's mom, I believe, is Tichiba, (sp?)

Americans have short memories. Remember the WH first doctored the news to Americans and now they doctor the news to the Iraqis. Has anyone seen such filth from the Bush and his cabal? These beasts are the lowest of the low!!!

#58 Saladin, thank you for the name! She is another woman's posts that should be good bedtime reading.

James Ha, I made the reopen911.org mailing list today. Can't wait to add this DVD to my collection.

BTW I was delivering to a flight center and they were moving a Gulfstream G5 into the hanger. I asked the ground crew what the wingspan was. This jet flies about 22 people plus the crew. The wingspan is about 100 feet. I tried to imagine what it would look like if it hit the Pentagon building at a steep descent. No way would it have disappeared into a 22 foot hole. In fact it would have flattened without significant damage to the outer Ring (3-4ft thick with steel and concrete).

I would like to see a survey of pilots and their reaction to the government theory that a 757 disppeared into the Pentagon, crashed through 6 rings and evaporated, wings and all leaving only the remains of the passengers to be ID by fingerprints and DNA.

Any pilot that buys that theory I would ask that they submit to sobriety and sanity testing before taking me for a ride.

Zbigniew Brzezinski, argued that America, to ensure its continued "primacy," must get control of this region, in his 1997 book, The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives, in which he portrayed Central Asia, with its vast oil reserves, as the key to world power.
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Could this be one of the great opportunities 9/11 provided that bushco thought were so wonderful?

America is too democratic at home to be autocratic abroad. This limits the use of America's power, especially its capacity for military intimidation...The economic self-denial (that is, defense spending) and the human sacrifice (casualities even among professional soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial to democratic instincts.

"Democracy is inimical to imperial mobilization."

Zbigniew Brzezinski, National Security Advisor in the Carter administration.

Brzezinski suggests, however, that this weakness in democracy can be overcome. Having said that "the pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion," he then adds: "except in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public's sense of domestic well being."
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Connecting the dots yet?

Gerald, I did mean Kathleen. Kathleen I apologize. The memory is the 2nd thing to go. The 1st is something, something...

The Davinci Code is about the church denying women a place in the hierarchy and Davinci and the Knights Templar holding the quintessential woman sacred.

Finally the truth is told

Something I didn't know, John Lehman, 9/11 commission member, has been publicly aligned with the PNAC.

[T]he top item on the Pentagon's agenda, once it gave the order for jackboots to begin marching on Baghdad, was to secure the oil fields in southern Iraq. And when chaos broke out in Baghdad, US forces let gangs of looters and arsonists run riot through "the Ministry of Planning, the Ministry of Education, the Ministry of Irrigation, the Ministry of Trade, the Ministry of Industry, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the Ministry of Culture and the Ministry of Information."...But at the Ministry of Oil, where archives and files related to all the oil wealth Washington has been itching to get its hands on, all was calm, for ringing the Ministry was a phalanx of tanks and armored personnel carriers.
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This article by Griffin is very illuminating.

Saladin, you state the opportunities of 911 very well. Especially the geographic implications. Iraq and Afghanistan had to be compromised. They were easy to vilify and conquer. Was the oil in the short term essential? It seems not, but as a conduit state to the persian Gulf there is only one other way and Iran wasn't as easy a target, especially with their ties to Russia.

The oil companies have done quite well just with price increases and the theory that oil will get harder to extract in the future, but piping it out of central asia, both oil and natural gas, is essential to the world supply of energy.

Is this what we are losing our country, our freedoms and our rights for? Probably, but we'll still have our pickups and SUVs, country music and Fox News.

#62 Saladin, Zeke Brzezinski is another warmonger.

#64 geo01, the meds I take has taken my first thing and the second thing is that my memory is challenged everyday. As for women holding a place in the hierarchy of the Church I have no problem with it. Or, even for priests to marry! There are so many problems facing us with Bush and his cabal that everything else does not gain my attention or ruffle my feathers.

#53 Saladin....I do believe this to some degree. As you stated look at all of the evidence. The folks on the top of the pile do not really care whose backs they make their money off of. The backs of the blacks, minimum wage earners, immigrants or the chinese workers.

I was brought up to believe in the justice system, in collective bargaining. That if you dig deep enough you will find the good/god in people.

This focus on Phase II would not be so bloody dissapointing for me, if the demand/request that it be fully implemented was not so completely logical and just. It is ludicrous that Senator Pat Roberts is not moving forward with this at top speed. I do not care that he is a Republican...does he have any moral bones in his body?

I know that the F.B.I has re- ignited their investigation of the NIger documents. This will not cover every piece of false evidence and all involved. I am frustrated. I do not get paid for my time and I have been investing far too much time. If people do not care enough to stick with a few issues to see them through so be it.

If it is true that it is a done deal as it certainly appears to be...then Dr. Evil and all of the rest of the DR. Evils on the planet win or have won.

Although over and over again when I am out on the streets talking, interviewing vets, old ladies, poor whites in appalachian communities, poor blacks and whites in the innner cities. It is looking into these peoples eyes that makes me believe that we need to push our representatives and push hard for justice, living wages, health care, a high quality education.

As I said earlier at times I want to retreat as some of my friends have to other countries where a socialized health and education system all ready exist.

Staying and working for justice inside the BELLY OF THE BEAST often seems futile.

There are many great articles to read on antiwar.com, today, December 3, 2005.

Additionally, Neil Bush is traveling with the Reverend Sun Myung Moon as a "peace leader"

HOUSTON, Texas (Reuters) -- Neil Bush, younger brother of President Bush, detailed lucrative business deals and admitted to engaging in sex romps with women in Asia in a deposition taken in March as part of his divorce from now ex-wife Sharon Bush.

According to legal documents disclosed Tuesday, Sharon Bush's lawyers questioned Neil Bush closely about the deals, especially a contract with Grace Semiconductor Manufacturing Corp., a firm backed by Jiang Mianheng, the son of former Chinese President Jiang Zemin, that would pay him $2 million in stock over five years.

Marshall Davis Brown, lawyer for Sharon Bush, expressed bewilderment at why Grace would want Bush and at such a high price since he knew little about the semiconductor business.

"You have absolutely no educational background in semiconductors do you?" asked Brown.

"That's correct," Bush, 48, responded in the March 4 deposition, a transcript of which was read by Reuters after the Houston Chronicle first reported on the documents.

geo01, my problem with the Davinci Code deals with Jesus and Mary Magdalene marrying and having children. Mary Magdalene did follow Jesus and His apostles. She came from a family of means and she helped to support the the Jesus Movement. Jesus had a gift of language and Mary Magdalene was mesmerized with Jesus' speeches. With her following of Jesus and the apostles history has portrayed her as a harlot. Mary Magdalene was not a harlot.

#71 micki, there is little doubt about the Bush family and the scum and slime that is attached to these low life creatures.

So, what Saladin and James ha are really saying is:

The Bush administration, PNAC, and the crew are not really a bunch of dunder heads, stupidly stumbling around.

They are in reality, brilliant strategists that have orchestrated a masterful plan right under the noses of the American people, congress ,senate, the press, and the rest of the world, without detection.

OF COURSE WITH THE exception of Saladin and
James ha.

I am glad to hear you finally admit President Bush is in fact a brilliant man, capable of such imperial tactics as to fool all Americans and a press that would kill their own mothers for any evidence to take his administration down.

It is nice to know President Bush is such a gifted genius.

A comment was made that I am unreasonable when it comes to Bush and his family. People, I call them the way I see them. No one on this planet can tell me that Bush and his family are not so rotten that even apples in a bushel did not want them to mix with them as to make more apples rotten. Bush and his family are the personification of dry rot!!!

O.K I went ahead and e-mailed and called DEMOCRACY NOW...HUFFINGTON POST.....AIR AMERICA...DIANE REHM....TALK OF THE NATION AND CSPAN.....AGAIN BEGGING THEM TO PUT THE SPOTLIGHT ON PHASE II THIS WEEK. CAN ANYONE THINK OF OTHERS THAT MIGHT BE EFFECTIVE BY PUTTING MORE PRESSURE ON SENATOR PAT ROBERT THIS NEXT WEEK. MOVE ON IS HARD TO ACCESS.

Helen Thomas is going to be on Air America today between 5-7. 866-303-2270 or 866-389-3473. HELEN THOMAS KICKS ASS. I hate when people attack that she is older or the way she looks when she hits the nail on the head about issues that everyone eles tip toes around. I have heard people attack her age and looks...it reflects just how sick our nation is.

#74 Mibu... these folks including Bush are "gifted fascist".....and you must still hold some illusion that you are one of them or will be one of them some day. These folks do not give a rats ass about you or any other flunky.

Gerald 75
I call them the way I see them

The problem is Gerald, YOU ARE BLIND,

and insane !!!

The main thing you people do not seem to understand is:

This thing we call freedom and democracy is a giant ball of good and bad crap, held together with duct tape, chewing gum, paper clips and thumb tacks.

Each administration tries to keep it from falling apart until they can hand it off to the next administration. All administrations are EXACTLY the same. They always have been, they always will be. They just try their best to keep the ball of crap from falling apart, so MOST, impossible for all, but most people in America can live their lives in relative comfort.

Their job IS NOT to make everyone happy and safe all the time, it is just to keep the ball from falling apart, until they can pass it off to the next guy brave and selfless enough to suffer the slings and arrows of the world.

QUIT YOUR BITCHING, the job is hard enough without you helping the enemy.

Looks like David Cornut has finally seen the light and figured out that the Bushies did'nt out- Val the gal. Well, I guess were back to Joe Wilson outing his own wife like his previous boss had said. Much to do about nothing!!

Man I leave you trolls for 24 hrs and your still talking about me. I'm honored, thanks trolls!!
It's not easy being a celebrity though. I have to leave for the night to let you trolls get up enough courage to come out and trash me when I'm not here. Who's the bully now?

TRH- dude you should be on OPRAH, every time I read one of your posts about asking for forgiveness from the trolls, I get all teary.

" vio " at # 78 . I realize Gerald can defend himself ; just thought you should be given a " heads up " on this little fact-a-roni ......... "Blind" and "insane " does not eliminate a typist from contributing .

Actually my purpose-driven purpose in this post is about Afghanistan . Afghanistan has enjoyed / suffered FIFTY
MONTHS of U.S.-led " liberation . "

Travelling through my moldy stacks of newspapers I found some cheesy examples of how Afghanistan has been presented to the unwashed millions of the United States.

Wall Street Journal, November 2004, in one of their oh-so-fair-and-balanced , editorial-staff Opinion Editorials ..... "
In Afghanistan - whose al Qaeda training camps are no more - free elections have been held and things are going better than anyone could reasonably have expected."

How encouraging !!!!! Very crucial word is " reasonably."

Going to a more recent article of the "Los Angeles Times" newspaper , written by L.A. Times' writer Henry Chu ; this guy
named Kabir Ranjbar is obviously unreasonable , but what he says is memorable.

" Under the Taliban there was security , there was a central government , no one
was attacking anyone else's property . They were imposing their views on the people, and they were bringing cultural darkness on Afghanistan . There's no doubt they were taking Afghanistan backward . But people felt safe. Right now, nowhere in Afghanistan do people feel safe. "

------- Kabir Ranjbar

in the L.A. Times newspaper, page
A - 3 . Wednesday,
November 2 , 2005

I honestly do not know if " vio "
is allowed to think about " girls schools" in Afghanistan, but the same early November 2005 newspaper article said this ........ " One of (Afghanistan President ) Karzai's declared priorities was to strengthen the nation's ailing educational system . He promised teachers substantial pay raises, in some cases a 100 % hike, and land for them to build houses on . So, a few weeks ago, when teachers heard that their $ 56 MONTHLY
salaries would grow by only $ 7 , the faculty at Zarghona High, one of Kabul's best girls schools, walked out of class the next day. ' The government says that they don't have enough money. But they pay thousands of dollars to ministers , including for their travel and for hosting guests , ' said Fatana ,a teacher, who, like many Afghans , goes by one name. ' They tricked us. ' "

Okay, more of what I have typed Today, Yesterday, The Day before Yesterday,
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Dvid,
A couple of thoughts regarding your post about the second Novak, and whether her testimony may let Rove off the hook.
There was a recent story on rawstory.com to the effect that Fitzgerald has testimony from Rove's assistant Susan Ralston where she says that when Cooper's call came in to Rove in 2004, it was not logged BECAUSE ROVE TOLD RALSTON NOT TO LOG IT, not because it came through the White House switchboard. If this is true, it would seem to argue against the conversation slipping Rove's mind -- i.e., if it was important enough for him to tell Ralston not to log it, what are the odds he forgot it?
Also, isn't it rather hard to imagine that despite all the talk about who leaked Plame's name, Rove would have let a conversation that was this crucial simply slip his mind? I would say it is not in character.
Keep up the good work -- you're a great blogger!
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baf

No need to be on Oprah. The folks here on David's site will judge my sincerety and either believe it or dismiss it. I'm not proud of some of the past remarks I have made here and am man enough to admit it. You, however, are even more of a succubus than I thought if you get teary eyed over my posts. How many men did you visit over the course of the evening?

succubus

It's hard work, it's really hard being the prezident. Quit picking on me! Waaaaaah!!!!

TRH

You are reverting back to your old ways, calling me a homo when we all know that's going offend your homo buddies. It's called a hate crime by you lefties. Now repent and go back to what your good at, which is kissing cornnut ass!!!!

baf

The definition of succubus has nothing to do with homosexuality. Getting a litle sensitive aren't you? Did I hit on a nerve you had hidden in your closet?

TRH

I was referring to your "how many men did you visit over the course of the evening" Try reading what you wrote dumbshit!!

Hateful name calling is all the bushbots have, the only resort of the blind and willfully ignorant. mibu's comment, which I actually stooped to read, speaks volumns. This is why I don't respond to trolls anymore. They are incapable of connecting dots, even when they are lined up right in a row by many dedicated researchers. There are plenty of people who see what is happening, they are screaming it from the rooftops, Ron Paul is one of the few patriots we have left in this country and has been one of the loudest in his warnings. I could post quotes by all the leading politicians of the past 30 years, admissions of the globalist goals, and it will never sink in, even though they come right out and say what the plan is. Either these rabid right-wingers welcome the NWO, and do not believe that individual nations, including ours, should maintain their sovereignty, of they are so completely disconnected from reality that they will never believe the stated goals of the globalists, even while is is being accomplished before their very eyes. To think I would give that idiot bush credit for any brilliant strategy is to admit to not reading my posts at all. bush has nothing to do with this long range plan, he isn't a member of the CFR or the Trilateral commission, Cheney and Clinton are, so is Carter and HW. Rockefeller is the mastermind, they are working together. So blather on bushbots, I will keep scrolling past.

TRH

Why are you degrading Homos anyway, What do you have against them, they did nothing to you, my friend.

saladin

Your such a liar!! You read everyone of my posts!! That's why you Cornnuts could'nt stop talking about me last night. I mean come on, you all spent the entire day defining the meaning of bully instead of talking about your luntic conspiracy theories. Job well done on my part, I do admit!!

See everyone, admission of the goal to derail. Gonna keep feeding him??

saladin

Come on saladin, do you really think you can rally the troops? You guy's are just like the Dimwit Dems in Congress- no vision, no leadership, no agenda, too many wack jobs!

Glad to see you could finally figure out my agenda of derailing your loony conspiracy theories. I was getting tired of throwing you bones to catch on. Now that I have given you a handicap, maybe you can make it to the finish line. Lets see what you've got!!

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Kathleen,
I love Helen Thomas too. She reminds me of relatives in my family. The older ladies kicked ass too. In fact, one of them helped start the gray panthers in MN. I really respect Helen Thomas' wisdom because I understand that it comes from experience and a constant need for the truth.

TRH

Still reading your last post? Feel a little foolish? I would to if I were you!! You must have been really bad in the past, such guilt!!

Oh, Sweet Mama

Looks like Katrina will be making my list!!! Only women can save this country, especially women with the characteristics of nurturing and sensitivity.

FBI Is Taking Another Look at Forged Prewar Intelligence

WASHINGTON -The FBI has reopened an inquiry into one of the most intriguing aspects of the pre-Iraq war intelligence fiasco: how the Bush administration came to rely on forged documents linking Iraq to nuclear weapons materials as part of its justification for the invasion.

The documents inspired intense U.S. interest in the buildup to the war -and they led the CIA to send a former ambassador to the African nation of Niger to investigate whether Iraq had sought the materials there. The ambassador, Joseph C. Wilson IV, found little evidence to support such a claim, and the documents were later deemed to have been forged....

...The FBI's decision to reopen the investigation reverses the agency's announcement last month that it had finished a two-year inquiry and concluded that the forgeries were part of a moneymaking scheme -and not an effort to manipulate U.S. foreign policy.

Those findings concerned some members of the Senate Intelligence Committee after published reports that the FBI had not interviewed a former Italian spy named Rocco Martino, who was identified as the original source of the documents. The committee had requested the initial investigation....

...Federal officials familiar with the case say investigators might examine whether the forgeries were instigated by U.S. citizens who advocated an invasion of Iraq or by members of the Iraqi National Congress -the group led by Ahmad Chalabi that worked closely with Bush administration officials in the buildup to the war.
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We have to really push for this too.

Disinfo Agent David Corn has done it again!

He just keeps throwing out what can be considered as a cross between red meat and red herrings for us all to worry about and argue over, thoroughly distracting and diverting and misdirecting us from the only real story, the fact that 9/11 *WAS* AN INSIDE JOB

Bush has REPEATEDLY told us that he had (access to) specific prior knowledge of the supposedly-secret supposedly-terrorist attack (evidently Bush watches the Prior Knowledge channel), and Agent Corn just wants to distract+divert us (and make profits) telling us that Bush lies (duh!).

Wake up and smell Corn's disinfo, already, sheeple!

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baf

A succubus is a female. Therefore, there is nothing homosexual in a visit to a male by a female. You brought up the reference, not me.
If you bothered to read the definition, you would understand that. Or, maybe I'm giving you much more credit than you deserve.

US civil rights group to sue CIA

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) says the intelligence agency has broken both US and international law.

It is acting for a man allegedly flown to a secret CIA prison in Afghanistan.

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says she'll comment on recent reports of alleged CIA prisons abroad before starting a visit to Europe on Monday.

Ms Rice has said she will provide an answer to a EU letter expressing concern over reports last month alleging the US intelligence agency was using secret jails - particularly in eastern Europe.

'Extraordinary rendition'

"The lawsuit will charge that CIA officials at the highest level violated US and universal human rights laws when they authorised agents to abduct an innocent man, detain him incommunicado, beat him, drug and transport him to a secret CIA prison in Afghanistan," the ACLU said in a news release.

The release identified the jail as the "Salt Pit".

The group did not provide the name or nationality of the plaintiff, saying only that he would appear at a news conference next week to reveal details of the lawsuit.

The ACLU also wants to name corporations which it accuses of owning and operating the aircraft used to transport detainees secretly from country to country.
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I have always thought that with this neocon group you have to hit them in the money belt. Start sueing the living daylights out of the companies that profit. They feel the pain then.

#100
Tim,
Ignore the bozo. Explaining something to him is like explaining something to a chatty Kathy doll.

Congress Researchers Fault EPA Studies

Researchers who work for Congress say the Environmental Protection Agency skewed its analysis of air pollution legislation to favor President Bush's plan.

EPA's analysis "works in favor of" Bush's plan by overstating some costs of competing bills, said a report Friday by the Congressional Research Service. The 2002 Bush plan, dubbed "Clear Skies," remains stalled in Congress.

"Although it represents a step toward understanding the impacts of the legislative options, EPA's analysis is not as useful as one could hope," the report concludes.

It took three years for EPA to provide comparisons of Bush's plan with competing versions by Sens. Tom Carper, D-Del., and James Jeffords, I-Vt.

When it did in October, the EPA said its analysis showed the superiority of the Bush proposal, which relies on market forces to cut pollution from the nation's 600 coal-burning power plants but does not address global warming.
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I wonder what incompetent crony is heading this agency.
In my past three posts I have illustrated three glaring area that need investigation. That's what this neocon group is all about. They have tentacles out in every facet, grabbing as much power and money a