The Gerald Doctrine

My doctrine remembers Jesus' Words, "Be not afraid." This post will upset many people but at times certain words must be said.

Abortion should have never been a governmental and a political issue. It should have been a medical and a religious issue. Whenever the government and politics are involved, you can be certain that the government and politics will screw it up. Removing government and politics from the abortion issue will remove a wedge issue. Roe v Wade will be overturned.

Women have had abortions for many reasons through the years. Some women do not have medical insurance and they have felt that they could not pay for the birth of a baby or even take care of a baby. Yet, there are many reasons for abortions.

Let us look at the removal of this wedge issue. Will people complain and groan or will people push for health care? Where will our Nazi politicians and government stand when it comes to health care? What other issues will become wedge issues so the Nazis can remain in power? If people oppose abortions that is fine and good but for a woman to have a child she will need some health care. The cost of medical care prohibits a number of people from wanting children, especially if there is no health insurance.

Be not afraid with the overturn of Roe v Wade! Let us pursue a caring America that is concerned for all our citizens and not just for the wealthy and for our corporations. Personally the Nazis will find reasons and ways to not help women. The American government under the control of the Nazis is an evil government.

Will the churches and fundies and the evans try to help women by pushing for health care or will they just be political ideologues? I believe that our Christian churches and laypersons are political ideologues and they will use moral issues to gain power and keep Americans angry, confused, and fearful. We are only pawns and puppets for governmental and political abuses. Moral issues should be delegated to religion and possibly in some cases to the medical professionals.

Please do all you can to not be afraid of change. Change is inevitable in life. Change can remove us from our comfort zones but I will say, "Be not afraid." Seek a greater good from our government and politicians' dastardly ways!

Where are the pro-lifers when it comes to health care and medical insurance for women and children? Health benefits would make abortion less of an option. Hypocrisy reigns in this country. Overturning Roe v Wade could very well be a plus and not a minus, especially if Americans push for better and more day care centers and better wages so that our citizens are not living like scurvy rats.

Corporations and the American government do not want Roe v Wade overturned. Even if it is overturned, there will still be abortions and they will not be illegal. Abortions will rest with a physicians' decision. Please do not become discombobulated with the overturning of Roe v Wade. We will know who are the hypocrites in this country.

Be not afraid! Have pro-life organizations stressed health care for women so pregnancy can come to full term? Have they stressed increased funding for adoption services so women who cannot keep their baby for whatever reason will have the option to have the baby adopted? Have they stressed funding for child care centers for women who want to keep the baby will have a place to help them as they work or try to find work? There are many questions to be answered but the major question is, do the pro-lifers really love people, really love women, and really love children? It is time for the pro-lifers to either shit or get off the pot! Are pro-life organizations only money-grabbing hypocrites?

Supreme Court justices just do not rule on abortions. They also rule in favor of corporate fraud and greed and the removal of our freedoms and rights for the common person. Always remember that the repugnants are not pro-lifers! They are purveyors of hatred, murders, torture, and wars.

The Gerald Doctrine is simple when we remember Jesus' Words, "Be Not afraid." We are living in confusing times, strange times. We are fighting satan's disciples who are unchained. For them any evil is acceptable. Morally, America is losing it. Failing in holiness creates a mess in the world. America is only concerned with money and possessions. We are in battles with satan's disciples and in battles many soldiers are wounded. But, remember that believers in a loving and a merciful God will win the war. These believers will hear the fifteen most wonderful words from God. "Welcome home my good and faithful friend. Come, I have prepared a place for you." With these beautiful we will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven for all eternity.

Hi David,

Wow, first to comment - beatcha' Capt.

Abortion rights must be protected. There will always be cases where a woman will need to make a decision whether to carry a pregnancy to term or not. Whether it be that she already has a bunch of kids and can't afford another one (birth control doesn't always work!), her health is in danger, she was raped (including incest because I think incest is always rape), or there is a significant health concern for the fetus (such as in my sister's case where it was 99% that the baby would not be born alive or would only live a few moments because it did not have a functioning brain). The woman, her doctor and whoever the woman wants to include for support should be the only people involved in this decision. Women should not be made slaves to their biology.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. If men were the ones to have babies, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

It never ceases to amaze me how the GOP will try to spin such damaging news as this when it breaks. IMO this should take Alito out of the running. From the commentary I have read on the contents of the now-infamous memo the plan was a cunning one to gradually chip away at Roe vs. Wade until it fell. So he [Alito] advocates a slow and steady approach much like the tortise that eventually won the race inspite of the hare's precedent of speed.

P.S. Satan and Nazis? You have a very active imagination friend.

Dang Gerald - you slipped one in there! :-)

The abortion issue is nothing but a wedge to widen the gap between left and right. They have no intention of taking that wedge off the table, it's emotional value is too great to sacrifice. Most people agree that it is a personal issue, a decision that should be left to the individuals involved. But it makes for great fanfare among the hard religious right who seem to believe that they must answer for this sin, even if they don't participate in it. What it boils down to is busy bodies with nothing better to do. It's ironic that the abortion and divorce rates are the highest in the right leaning "red" states. Maybe they should look to cleaning their own house before passing judgement on another's.

Moreover, where does this leave the so called conservatives in congress who want to remain in office after '06 knowing that poll after poll demonstrates that close to 70% of Americans, regardless of political stripe, favor continued constitutional protection of reproductive rights?

Put another way, when will the rats have had enough to begin jumping Cheney's ship?

One beneficiary of the "War of Terror."

50 Cent, the War Profiteer and the $10 million Bat Mitzvah
Why the world's best 13th birthday party has Iraq vets' blood boiling

Guerilla News Network/Anthony Lappe | November 30 2005

On the day the President told the American people to prepare for the long haul in Iraq, here's a story that seems to perfectly sum up our priorities as a nation. They're calling it Mitzvahpalooza. It may go down in history as the world's most obscene birthday party (eat your heart out Dennis Kozlowski). David H. Brooks, CEO of bulletproof vest maker DHB Industries, spared no expense for his 13-year old daughter's entry into adulthood. The girl and 300 of her closest BFFs were entertained recently in New York's Rainbow Room by Don Henley, Stevie Nicks, Kenny G, Aerosmith and, believe it or not, 50 Cent (I guess 500 large can make you forget all about street cred). It was hosted by Tom Petty. The reported cost: $10 million. See the absurd pics here.

First off, what 13-year old is a fan of Don Henley, Fleetwood Mac and, for God's sake, Kenny G? Who was this party really for? Second, and more importantly, where does a guy get $10 million to blow on a Bat Mitzvah? Well, it appears, from you, the American taxpayer. According to United for a Fair Economy, Brooks and Co. have made a tidy profit outfitting our nation's fighting men and women in body armor that allegedly can't take a hit from a 9mm round:

David H. Brooks, CEO of bulletproof vest maker DHB Industries, earned $70 million in 2004, 13,349% more than his 2001 compensation of $525,000. Brooks also sold company stock worth about $186 million last year, spooking investors who drove DHB's share price from more than $22 to as low as $6.50 [DHB was trading at $4.20 today]. In May 2005, the U.S. Marines recalled more than 5,000 DHB armored vests after questions were raised about their effectiveness. By that time, Brooks had pocketed over $250 million in war windfalls.

Read UFE's full report Executive Excess 2005 (PDF, 3.81 MB).
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Good to know we are footing the bill for shit like this while our children continue to be slaughtered, to support millionaires parties.

This nomination is also about the honesty of this White House and Alito. With an issue as important as the right to choose both sides have to be honest and forthright about their views. It is not honest to pretend one thing and then strike down the law when you become judge.

I think it was Johnson who said segregation or civil rights would bring down the democratic party (I probably got that all wrong). Anyway, pro choice and anti abortion is going to bring down the religious right. They are digging way too much into people's lives.

Sure doesn't surprise me Saladin, corporate profits skyrocketing from the sale of BAD products seems to be acceptable. Next the rich idiot will probably run for some political office or chimpy will give him a medal. Disgusting indeed.

Acouple of weeks back I heard that there was several cases presided over by that Alito character where he had a personal interest and should have recused himself. That in itself would be grounds for rejection. Anybody recall that?

The Alito nomination should be opposed for reasons other than abortion, which is a perfectly valid objection, but keeps getting Republicans elected and reelected. One of the objections not as easy for Republicans to spin is that Alito seems to have no qualms about stretching the truth into a lie. We have too many of these lying white males in this administration and they have done, and are doing, great harm to our country. Filibuster, filibuster, filibuster.

#2 flan, you betcha! If men were the ones to have babies, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

#5 Saladin, the abortion wedge wins votes for the pro-death party (GOP). The red states love thier guns and penises.

Notice how David changed the subject from the war to Alito? By, the way this is the Demorats startegy as well, they know when they've gotten there ass's kicked. One successful speach from Bush and the Demorats are self destructing. They were doing pretty good when the administration was silent, but now that they are fighting back-well, it's kind of like you trolls, you think your doing pretty good until a bushivic comes along and totally destroy's everything you've said.

Hey guess what? Michael Moore has come out of hiding and said it is just silly to think that he owned any Haliburton stocks. Only one problem, his tax returns say he did. I am sure he knows that you trolls will believe anything he say's so screw the facts.

Sorta goes with the previous post, but....

INSURGENTS' RAID US IRAQI BASES

(AP)

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Insurgents attacked several U.S. bases and government offices with mortars and rockets Thursday before dispersing in the capital of western Iraq’≥ Anbar province, residents said.

Attacks interrupt U.S.-Iraq meeting
The attacks in Ramadi occurred as local tribal leaders and U.S. military officials were to hold their second meeting in a week at the governor’≥ office in the city center.

Residents said that within minutes, scores of masked gunmen, believed to be members of Jordan-born militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi’≥ al-Qaida in Iraq group, ran into the city’≥ streets but dispersed after launching attacks with mortars and Russian-made Katyusha rockets.

It was not clear whether the attacks left any casualties —†most residents fled to their homes after the exchange began.

The offensive came as President Bush said he hopes to shift more of the military burden onto the Iraqis as part of a strategy to draw down American forces.

About 500 Iraqi troops joined 2,000 U.S. Marines, soldiers and sailors in a move to clear insurgents from an area on the eastern side of the Euphrates river near Hit, 85 miles west of Baghdad, the U.S. command said in a statement.
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"Last Throes" indeed.

New Demorat modo - "Were losers so we might as well support loosing in Iraq"

When you apply for a job, you tend to say the things that your prospective employer wants to hear. Alito's job as part of the Reagan administration was to determine a legal strategy that would further the administration's goals. Lawyers are trained to take the side of an issue that they are assigned, whether they fully agree with that position or not.

This is not to say Alito isn't pro-life or that he definitely won't vote to overturn Roe. But I don't see the Reagan-era information as a smoking gun that he's Ralph Reed in disguise. Maybe the simple fact that he worked for Reagan should be a tip-off, but the idea that he would have argued a pro-choice viewpoint as a lawyer for that administration is extremely naive.

Remember that as a judge Alito has ruled three times on the side of abortion rights, and once on the opposite side. I have read the context of the time when he ruled against abortion rights and I don't see that his opinion was particularly anti-abortion. The state had passed a law that married women seeking abortions must sign a paper saying they notified their husbands. Abortion providers were not required to check whether the women had actually informed their husbands. The question before the court was whether that requirement placed an undue burden on married women. Alito was alone in making the case that it did not. Abortion rights advocates used this case to paint Alito as a far-right ideologue on abortion, leaving out the facts and the other cses that would have undercut their argument.

I admit that I am not 100% pro-choice. I believe in a woman's right to control her body but I also think late-term abortions (8th and 9th months) are tantamount to infanticide. (Many committed abortionists won't do late-term abortions.) I also think minors should have to notify their parents before undertaking a risky medical procedure (including tongue-piercing). I have concerns about Alito that go beyond abortion, and I hope that these are also discussed and emphasized. Maybe now I'm being naive.

too funny!

Thanks for the chuckle, reminds me of a photo where some nimrod is holding a sign that says "You Morans" (meaning moron)

capt

And futhermore, no man who is not the one who impregnated the woman should have any voice in a woman's decision to abort or not to abort, and then it should be up to the woman to decide whether that particular male is responsible enough to make an informed decision. Why would Alito, Roberts, Scalia, and Thomas have any care about how their ideology affects individual women they know absolutely nothing about?

Saladin,

I once attended a Bar Mitzvah at the East River Yacht club. (I can't remember how the kid was related to my Gfriend, at the time)

There were something like 1,200 people there,(only 100 or so were kids) 2 or three bands, mountains of food (my very first taste of Beluga caviar, hardly worth the dough) and the honoree recieved over $60,000 in gifts of cash or bonds, along with a pile of "normal" gifts of which a motor boat and a dirt bike were only the most impressive.

Imagine me, who was living in a slightly larger than efficiency apartment, working as a bouncer at a gawd-offal nightclub, rubbing my grubby elbows with people who could afford such?

Tickets to see Mandy Patinkin on Broadway in "The Secret Garden" were given to every attendee. I didn't feel guilty, sitting there in the front-row balcony...I wonder does that make my hypocitical? Probably, but I did take my little sister and one of my fellow bouncers to the show!

-T

Looks like the trolls crawled out from under their rocks into the light of day to once again spew crap. Ho-Hum

[New Demorat modo - "Were losers so we might as well support loosing in Iraq"]

In fourteen words, I count five errors in spelling and punctuation--six if you count "Demorat" although that might be intentional. (When you misspell every second word, it's hard to tell.) It's an idiotic message too, of course, like all posts from this sad individual. I generally try not to make fun of the brain-damaged, but "modo" is too hilarious to go unremarked.

Den #21

you are correct- I don't spend 24hrs addicted to a troll site, like you- I have real people to communicate with at night!!

"I am opposed to millionaires, but it would be dangerous to offer me the position." ~ Mark Twain

Nothing hypocritical about it.

capt

Feisty little weasles are'nt they? Too bad they don't channel that energy into something usefull, Oh well....Yawn!

Yep, that weird hillbilly family and their noisy illmannered kids have shown up again. How do those people even afford a place like this? They can't even read the menu! What is up with that one that can't stop yapping? What sort of disorder is that? Tourettes?

Just like your neighbors annoying barking dog, Yap, Yap,Yap,Yap! leaving piles everywhere.

#19
and then it should be up to the woman to decide whether that particular male is responsible enough to make an informed decision

The mind boggles at that particular bit of thinking. Let us see responsible enough to shoot sperm into your vagina but not enough to make an informed decision (sic)?

DEN #10 That is what happened with the 9/11 commission, 8 of the 10 had a direct conflict of interest in that they were involved in the Afghanistan pipeline deal, or entities that were, that was literally stolen out from under the Bridas Corp. Lady Justice has been bound, gagged, raped and thrown into the sticker bushes.

"Clinton lied people died"

According to Mark Jubulis, an Assoc. Prof. at Gannon Univ.

In response to Mr. Clinton's Nov 23rd editorial-page commentary "American Engagement" : While it is true that the bobming campaign initiated by Mr. Clinton and our NATO allies in Aug. 1995 was instrumental in ending the conflict in Bosnia, there are some major flaws (lies) in Mr. Clinton's history of events leading up to the Dayton Peace conference, and even more serious distortions (lies) in his explanation of what happened afterward.

The most serious flaw (not his character)in Mr. Clinton's account is his failure to appreciate how the subsequent ethnic cleansing in Kosovo was directly related to the Dayton agreement. In an audacious exercise in political spin, he asserts: "It triggered the events that led to the dictator Slobodan Milosevic's removal and trial at The Hague for war crimes." No-Dayton led to Kosovo, not The Hague. The eventual indictment against Milosevic includes charges of war crimes against humanity, and genocide for actions committed by Serb forces under his direction in Bosnia. Yet Milosevic was invited to Dayton and treated as an honored guest and a legitimate head of state. By seeking a peace settlement that left Milosevic in power , the Clinton administration accepted conditions that would enable renewed conflict in the future. Dayton was a missed opportunity to arrest a war criminal while he was in the US.

Wall Street Journal - today's edition

Looks like Bubba is trying to rewrite history again.

Lets review-

1. Missed opportunity in Rwanda- Hundreds of thousands die.
2. Missed opportunity with Milosevic- Tens of
thousands die.
3. Missed opportunity to get Saddam- more than 2000 die in Iraq war with tens of thousands Iraqis dead.
4. Oil for food scandal (under his watch)- thousand of Iraqi children starve to death
5. Missed opportunity to get Osama- 3000 Americans die.

lets all say it together - "Clinton lied-people died!!!!"

Den

Your attempt at humor is about as good as Al Franken. Last time I checked he had a fan base at Air America that would compete with David's cornuts- at least ten, maybe twelve. Keep it up and maybe he might have you on his show-you could give him a run for his money.

Dow nears 11,000

Wow, the stock market is doing so great that Micheal Moore has decided to give out Haliburton stocks for stocking stuffers.

Dow nears 11,000

Wow, the stock market is doing so great that Micheal Moore has decided to give out Haliburton stocks for stocking stuffers.

Baf:"One successful speach from Bush and the Demorats are self destructing."

Oh no Sweetie, we tore that pathetic speech down yesterday....several times. I guess it's hard to tell when you limit your knowledge to Faux News:

"The president was basically repackaging things and saying everything's fine when every day we read that things are not fine," said former secretary of state Madeleine K. Albright. "I so wish I could believe him. I like to believe an American president. But he's got such a credibility issue."

"The administration evidently doesn't believe its own overblown rhetoric about the war on terror. Either that or it just can not muster the political and public support to pursue that war as it sees fit."

"But his remarks left out what many, including some in his own party, have been demanding: detailed milestones that must be reached before U.S. troops can begin withdrawing."

"Bush's address appeared to raise more questions than it answered, including how long it would take before Iraqis could provide their own security and when U.S. troops could be withdrawn in meaningful numbers."

"Even one key Republican, Senator Richard Lugar of Indiana, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, says Mr. Bush needs to be more specific in addressing the readiness of Iraqi forces."

Hard to "kick ass" with recycled speeches that are more of the same, do not overturn plunging poll numbers, and do nothing but pat themselves on the back for a failed policy. When your chickenshit President grows balls enough to address the people who oppose him, then you can claim he "kicked ass". Until then, he's a coward who's afraid to hear bad news and face the majority of Americans who's party loyalty doesn't make them blind to the fact that he's a failure at best, an illiterate fraud with the IQ of a Hefty bag at worst.

eggman

Glad to see you can spell on your own -too bad you can't think on your own. It's kind of sad when you trolls can't debate my postings and have to stoop to mis-spelled words-as if that were getting even.

What is with the Bushbots dragging Clinton out for another bashing, after all he is partnered with chimpys daddy ain't he? Makes him one of them does'nt it? Its true they will eat their own given the chance.

Baf: "Clinton lied people died"

Which should be totally acceptable for you since you defend the lies that killed 2000+ troops and countless Iraqis. When you crawl out of bed dry humping Michael Moore, Bill Clinton, and moveon.org, perhaps you can concentrate on the policy makers and those who are responsible for our global demise, hugh deficit that you're closed kin grandchildren will be paying back, empty treasury account now owed by China, and a war launched on lies while our borders and airports have "welcome terrorist" signs out front so that Latinos will vote republican in 2008 (gotta keep those priorities straight, huh?)

Please keep trolling this site, it continues to amuse us and we realize that the RNC (Republican Nazi Convention) doesn't allow for dissent on it's site. Hmmm, I guess Bush isn't the only one scared of criticism...

I have come to the conclusion that President Bush, Republican supporters and cohorts in Congress live in some alternate universe in which
reality is some foreign substance to be avoided at all cost. These people are out of touch with reality.

According to President Bush, things are going splendidly in Iraq and we will not leave until
"victory" (whatever that is) has been finalized.

According to his supporters all of President Bush's problems come from attacks from defeatist leftist and liberal democrats who "hate" Bush more than they hate the enemy. They also believe the the "liberal mainstream media" have a official agreement with the democratic party to deliberately slant the news in a way that is negatively biased against Bush and the republicans.

In other words to these people President Bush's policies, actions or the results of these have absolutely nothing to do with his malaise with the american public, who are increasingly turning against him by a majority.

Republicans by not forcing themselves and President Bush to deal with reality and make adjustments are setting themselves up for a monumental fall from power if they keep on the
"staying the course".

"What is with the Bushbots dragging Clinton out for another bashing"

I'm of the mind that those who keep Clinton on the brain are jealous that Monica did the kneeling instead of them. They certainly swing on ole' Bill's gonads often enough.

"It's kind of sad when you trolls can't debate my postings and have to stoop to mis-spelled words-as if that were getting even."

Hey Baf, speaking of misspelled words, what language is "modo" and "speach"?

"David's cornuts- at least ten, maybe twelve. Keep it up and maybe he might have you on his show-you could give him a run for his money."

Actually that number should be around 13. You're obviously a big fan of David's as well.

Dude, go out, stretch your legs, get a drink, hell get a girlfriend. You spend waaaay too much time on this website...

Just a silent observer,
Tommy Boy

Kinda like the arcade game "Wackamole" hit one and another pops up.

Congressman Reid thinks the oil companies lied to congress and wants an investigation. I guess forgoing the oath prior to testimony did'nt work, it still remains to be seen if anything will become of it since the oil companies and their lobbyists are running this dog and pony show, stay tuned.

US to pull out most of National Guard

From David Charter in Washington

12/01/05 "The Times" -- -- THE US National Guard is planning to cut the number of its troops in Iraq by 75 per cent over the next year in a dramatic change of approach by the American military, The Times has learnt.

The substantial reduction in part-time troops —†from eight combat brigades to two —†follows growing evidence that the National Guard’≥ supply of equipment is becoming exhausted, leaving it unable to cope with domestic emergencies, such as Hurricane Katrina.

There has also been speculation that the force is simply running out of troops for deployment and that recruitment is suffering as a result of high casualty rates and unexpectedly long tours of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Guardsmen, who are recruited under the slogan Ҵwo weeks a year and one weekend a monthӬ report to their state governor, not to Washington, and many never expected to fight in foreign wars.

They are permitted to serve only two of their six years abroad. However, many are already on their second tour in Iraq, and there has been widespread concern at the strain being placed on the part-timers, who make up an unprecedented 65,000 of the 159,000 troops in Iraq and have suffered 318 fatalities.

Only 10,000 National Guardsmen served in Vietnam, where about 100 were killed.

Copyright 2005 Times Newspapers Ltd.
________________

"You go to war with the Army you USED to have, until you don't have it anymore, and you ain't gonna GET it anymore."

Who wants to die for a LIE?

Volunteers?

Hello?

Anybody?

-T

Bueller?

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WHY IS THE US GOVERNMENT COVERING UP THE LATEST ISRAELI SPY RING? WHAT WAS THE ISRAELI SPY RING DOING THAT IS SUCH A THREAT TO THE US GOVERNMENT THAT THEY WOULD RATHER HAVE OVER A HUNDRED SPIES ESCAPE THAN RISK A PUBLIC TRIAL?

don't buy a commodore64!!

WHY IS THE US GOVERNMENT COVERING UP THE LATEST ISRAELI SPY RING? WHAT WAS THE ISRAELI SPY RING DOING THAT IS SUCH A THREAT TO THE US GOVERNMENT THAT THEY WOULD RATHER HAVE OVER A HUNDRED SPIES ESCAPE THAN RISK A PUBLIC TRIAL?

The Repugs want their favorite wedge issue. They'll be fighting about abortion 'til kingdom come. They'd rather whittle away at Roe, bit by bit, and keep it in their arsenal.
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Now, back to bush's War of Choice and his LIES, LIES, LIES...Yesterday Anderson Cooper, in a segment with Senator John Warner (Repug):

COOPER: You know this is not one of the shows where we take sides. I really try to just look at facts on the ground, and the President in his speech talked about the battle of Tal Afar. And in his speech today, he said that it was led primarily by Iraqi security forces, eleven Iraqi battalions, backed by five coalition battalions providing support. He used this as compared to the battle of Fallujah as an example of how much better the Iraqis are doing. Earlier, I talked to Time Magazine’s Michael Ware, the Baghdad bureau chief who was embedded during the entire battle. I want to play you what he said about the Iraqi units he saw.

WARE: I was in that battle from the very beginning to the very end. I was with Iraqi units right there on the front line as they were battling with al Qaeda. They were not leading. They were being led by the U.S. green beret special forces with them. Green berets who were following an American plan of attack who were advancing with these Iraqi units as and when they were told to do so by the American battle planners. The Iraqis led nothing.

COOPER: Do you think the president was correct in saying that this was an Iraqi victory, that the Iraqis were leading the way?

WARNER: Well, I’ll let the commanders sort that out but I - first I respect those journalists that embed themselves and I accept as a credible description what you’ve just put forward. But you didn’t hear him say they cut and run like they did in Fallujah. You didn’t hear him say that the Iraqis dropped the arms. He said they were fighting. Now it may well have been that the battle plan was drawn up by the coalition forces, probably the U.S. leading.
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Sheesh! Spin, spin, spin...

Ayana #37

I know you all want Clinton to go away, but he just can't stand not being the focus of attention. As far as Michael Moore, MoveOn.Org, etc- these people /groups are the leaders of your Anti-America/peace movement that you all aspire to. Pointing out there hippocracy and idiotic, lying views shows what dumbasses you are!! As far as our demise: my income is up 30%, the DOW is reaching 11,000, home sales are at a all time high, gas prices are down, oil prices down, unemployment down, Iraq on track to self goverance, republicans still in control, supreme court soon to be in conservatives favor and you lefties are being exposed for nothing but a bucnch of whinners!! Sounds pretty good to me.

Here are some other reasons, in addition to what we now know about his views on reproductive rights, to nix Alito, according to PFAW:

* As a federal judge, Alito would have upheld restrictions on women's choice that were rejected by the Third Circuit and the Supreme Court. Writing for the majority, Justice Sandra Day O'Connor described Alito's logic as giving "a man the kind of dominion over his wife that parents exercise over their children."

* Alito voted to uphold the strip-search of a 10 year old girl without a valid warrant.

* Alito has embraced a legal doctrine that holds that the federal government is severely limited in its ability to protect the "health, safety, and welfare" of its citizens, even trying to strike down common-sense restrictions on the sale and transfer of machine guns.

Frankly, I think the Democrats should NOT let this become all about abortion:

MORE BACKGROUND on ALITO:
As a lawyer in the Reagan administration and as a federal judge, Alito has taken positions that are far out of the mainstream on the issues people care about:

o He has expressed deeply troubling views about reapportionment -- a basic democratic tenet that guarantees equal representation in voting, including the “One Person, One Vote” principle.

o He would have upheld the strip search of a mother and her ten-year old daughter, even though the warrant allowing the search did not name either of them.

o He has issued decisions making it harder for victims of race and sex discrimination to seek justice, and more difficult for victims of disability discrimination to prove their case.

o He has expressed troubling views on the right to privacy

o He ruled against part of the Family and Medical Leave Act—a law that guarantees most working people up to twelve weeks’ leave to recover from a serious illness or help care for a family member.

o He has singled out his work to restrict affirmative action and limit remedies in racial discrimination cases as areas that he was “particularly proud of.”

o He has offered excessively narrow readings of the Commerce Clause and excessively broad readings of “states’ rights,” voting to strike down a federal law restricting the possession and transfer of machine guns.

o He sided with corporate polluters in a ruling that made it much harder for victims of pollution to sue, even when the polluters were guilty of breaking the law. The Supreme Court eventually rejected Alito’s position.

micki, I'm pretty sure that no matter what their stated views on abortion, they won't give up this wedge issue. They know it is only one of two issues that keep the idiot kkkristian evangelicals up in arms over nothing. Of the two things they are constantly whining about, abortion and gay marriage, neither one is even remotely their business. If they would just look to their own pathetic marriage and abortion statistics, they would be too busy to worry about other peoples business!

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Tired of giving the same old cra... er... gifts for Christmas? Don't worry, Sparky, we've got you covered with our annual holiday gift guide!

WHO WOULD WANT THIS? WHO? WHO?

According to Today's Parent magazine, one of the best toys to buy your kids this year is Workman Publishing's Owl Puke -- The Pellet, a science kit that contains a real, regurgitated pellet from an owl that allows kids to examine what the birds eat.

UHHH, I THINK WE'LL PASS...

For the Trekkie on your list, why not get them William Shatner's kidney stone? Shatner passed the stone in October, recovered it from the doctors and says he wants to sell it on eBay, calling it the "ultimate piece of 'Star Trek' memorabilia."

HEY LOOK, IT'S GRANDMA!

A cathedral in Melbourne, Australia, is offering people the opportunity to have their faces immortalized in stone as a gargoyle on its spires. The price? Only $50,000!

A COLON CLEANSING? GEE, THANKS! WITH FRIENDS LIKE YOU, WHO NEEDS ENEMAS?

Dr. Eileen Silva, a Dallas doctor, says colon cleansing is a great holiday detox activity because she says colons contain anywhere from "seven to 15 pounds of debris at any time."

A COLON CLEANSING AND A BODY CAVITY SEARCH? HOW LUCKY CAN ONE GUY BE?

Now available to Christmas toy shoppers is the Playmobil Security Check In. It includes a plastic airline passenger figure, plastic luggage, two plastic movable armed security guard figures, a metal detector, a conveyor-belt luggage scanner, a security wand and an extra gun.

-- The Globe and Mail; todaysparent.com; schneier.com/blog; Wireless Flash News Service; ananova.com; imdb.com
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Happy Shopping!

From: Think Progress

Embedded TIME Reporter: Bush Lied In Speech Yesterday About Iraqi Security Forces
Yesterday, President Bush claimed that Iraqi security forces primarily led the assault on the city of Tal Afar. Bush highlighted it as an especially clear sign of the progress Iraq security forces were making in Iraq.

The progress of the Iraqi forces is especially clear when the recent anti-terrorist operations in Tal Afar are compared with last year's assault in Fallujah. In Fallujah, the assault was led by nine coalition battalions made up primarily of United States Marines and Army, with six Iraqi battalions supporting them this year in Tal Afar, it was a very different story. The assault was primarily led by Iraqi security forces, 11 Iraqi battalions, backed by five coalition battalions providing support.

TIME Magazine reporter Michael Ware, who is embedded with the U.S. troops in Iraq who participated in the Tal Afar battle, appeared on Anderson Cooper yesterday. He said Bush's description was completely untrue:

I was in that battle from the very beginning to the very end. I was with Iraqi units right there on the front line as they were battling with al Qaeda. They were not leading. They were being led by the U.S. green beret special forces with them.
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bush lied?? Well I never!

Al that Jaz!

Josh Rushing, former U.S. Marine, remember Control Room, signed on with al-Jazeera for their English language unit to be launched in March '06.

Saladin...what's going on here??? You and I agree about the religiousreich "wedgie" issue and now you've posted the story about Michael Ware (which I mentioned earlier). Before you know it, we'll be accused of being of "like mind" or worse! ;-))

It is NOT a LIE!!!

You see, somebody TOLD him that version of the battle of Tal Afar... And he just REPEATED it!

He, like couldn't have KNOWN it, he WASN'T THERE!!!

He just got some bad intel, that's ALL!

Sheesh, you Traitors just never learn...

(Just gettin' ahead of the Troll)

-T

LIFE IS GREAT FOR EXCEPT LIBS !!

Opinion dynamic Polls say President Bush’≥ numbers are up 6 points and rising, now that he has been countering the lies of the left. The people are storming back out of the darkness the leftwing websites amd liberal press like
to keep them in. THE PRESIDENT’ì POLL NUMBERS ARE BACK IN THE MID FORTIES. The stock markets are up and continuing to climb.

The Iraqi people are happy and say thing are considerably better than Saddam days. Elections come of clean every time in Iraq, and it is clear the percentage of Iraqi people voting beats the numbers of Americans the last two times.

The liberals gripe because they say the new Iraqi government is not perfect, while our own country has taken over two hundred just to get where it is. Give them a break, we had a civil war, civil rights problems, and to this day have about 20% radicals on the right and left, like corn nuts, that will never be happy until we are a full
blown communist country run by Castro.

The War is going GREAT, with minor causalities, the economy is in GREAT shape, none of us has missed a meal in TOOOO LONG, we are fat and lazy and bitch about everything if it is not free.

Why go help anyone if I might mess up my hair or break a nail, Jeezzz, what do those Iraqi’≥ expect us to do, miss a meal or something just to help them from being mass murdered by another Pol Pot.???? Those selfish Iraqi bastards.

hahaha He said "Wackamole".
Glad I wasn't taking a drink at the time.

It is KNOT a LIE!!!

You see, somebuddy TOLD him that virgin of the battle of Tall Afair... And he just RAPEETED it!

He, like couldn't have NOUN it, he WUSN'T THEIR!!!

He jest got sum bad intelujunce, that's AWL!

Sheesh, you Traders just never lern...

(This "Trollspeak" translator I downloaded works pretty good!)

-T

Cub #57

I am a Conservative and am all for finishing the job in Iraq. But your quote "the was is going great" is ridiculous. No war is ever great. I just received an e-mail today from my friend in Iraq. He is commander of the 3/13 FA. He speaks of successes in their various missions and also speaks of setbacks. But, he would never say the "war is going great!" They are scheduled to rotate back to the States in January. Even though I know he is dedicated to the service of his country, I did detect a small amount of anticipation in the impending rotation home.

Baf,

Get off your knees, Clinton is not interested.

"As far as Michael Moore, MoveOn.Org, etc- these people /groups are the leaders of your Anti-America/peace movement that you all aspire to. Pointing out there hippocracy and idiotic, lying views shows what dumbasses you are!"

We're the dumbasses?!!?! I think the word you were trying to spell is "hypocrisy". Anti-American "peace" movement?!?! I'll let you think about that stupid ass statement for a moment. Forget it, you can't spell much less think for yourself. So a movement promoting peace, meaning saving our troops and innocent Iraqis, is Anti-American? Did Rove tell you to say that are did you hear that from a recycled speech that Bush gave to soldiers used as props?

"my income is up 30%"

Oh goody, so that should bring you to a whooping 24k per year. Did Burger King move you to fries? Better hit that K-Mart blue light special with all that extra income. You've proven to us that your education did not move beyond 6th grade. Because they know how to spell hypocrisy.

"gas prices are down, oil prices down"

Yet leading oil companies lied to Congress about a secret meeting they had with Cheney. And those gas prices are expected to go back up.

"unemployment down"

Because people were forced to take jobs along side you at Burger King because high paying jobs were shipped overseas.

"Iraq on track to self goverance"

Yet, Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfield predict several more years of American troop occupation.

"republicans still in control, supreme court soon to be in conservatives favor"

And the majority of the country is increasingly unhappy. They hold the majority, but what happened to Social Security reform, budget cuts, and immigration reform? How pathetic, you assholes are the majority and can't pass your own fucking legislation.

"and you lefties are being exposed for nothing but a bucnch of whinners!!"

The word is spelled bunch, you dumb fuck. Take those extra earning and invest in Hooked on Phonics. And maybe you should take your head out the asses of all these whinners.

"I know you all want Clinton to go away"

Nope, I want him to bring his ass back. If we can get another president who can govern from the middle without pandering to religious wack jobs who promote violence, balance a budget without pimping our future to China, keep jobs here instead of sending them overseas, mark his daily PDBs with questions and comments instead of trying to figure out the big words while accepting anything he's told, and helping the middle class that make up the MAJORITY of the country instead of agendas that ONLY help 1% of high end earners, well shit, I would be that president's personal Heidi Fleiss.....

TRH, I hope your friend makes it home safe... and soon.

Hajji,

If you turned on your "trollspeak translator"
on my #60 post, I hope it didn't change anything. I couldn't have it any simpler.

NO ONE, BE IT MAN OR WOMAN, SHOULD EVER BE ALLOWED TO KILL A BABY THAT COULD AT LEAST LIVE IN AN INCUBATOR OUTSIDE THE WOMB, FOR ANY REASON EVEN IF IT MEANS YOU MUST FORFEIT YOUR OWN LIFE !!!!

Jesus and God and all that kind of shit has nothing to do with it.

You have already had life, no one should get to end an innocent little babies life, just to extend their own.

Alan,

Thanks! I am sure the troops would welcome that.
If you get a chance, visit the website set up by
the military wifes of the 3/13 FA. Click on Commanders Comments and you can read what is currently going on in their area. Bill Miracle is a great person and is a cherished friend. We go back to Officers Basic Course together, Fort Sill, 1985. Served in Germany the same years(1986-1988)

3/13 FA

Ayana, you've done some major kick-ass today. Probably had one hand tied behind your back too. haha Just wanted to say that it's really not necessary though. Most of the regulars have him and most others on "ignore". We've slapped them guys around repeatedly many times before, and just about decided it wasn't worth David's bandwidth. Every once-in-a-while, their spew is so outrageous that we can't help ourself though. I try to remember that it's exactly what they want... a response. Still, you kikk'd butt so eloquently, so I'm not about to ask you to stop. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Cool name too, btw. I almost named my daughter Alana, which is close.

If you get a chance, visit the website set up by
the military wifes of the 3/13 FA.

Thanks TRH. I hit the site for a short and have it saved to check out more later. I liked the countdown clocks. Ahhh, but a watched clock runs slowerrrrrr, dammmmmit!

Only the most despicable, selfish, disgusting, greedy pigs, would snuff the life from a little baby, just to extend their own miserable, contemptible existence.

And, you are right, neither God nor Jesus or any other of that religous garbage has a thing to do with it.

It is as simple as, If you F##Ked-up, pay for it yourself. Don't make a little baby who had nothing to do with your F##k-up, pay your bill.

Thanks Alan, I must say I'm rather enjoying myself. I'm a New Yorker so the anti-Bush sentiment runs strong here, not much of a chance to point out the IQ levels of those who support Bush. I blog on several other blogspheres when time permits and I notice one thing about trolls, they usually run out of talking points/blame it on Clinton rhetoric and retract to their own blogs sites with their tails planted firmly between their legs. Braf's 15 minutes are just about up. But he's a trooper, I must admit.....

BTW, I love the name Alana.....

Clinton lied and got a blowjob. Check that! Clinton got a blowjob and lied under oath about it. Clinton was impeached. All this happened seven years ago. Why am I talking about it now?

Oh yeah! Because has W fucked up everything he's touched so I'd rather change the subject and bash Clinton: I don't want to talk about FEMA, Nation Building in Iraq, 9/11 (who could possible have imagined terrorists using planes as bombs?), the greatest federal deficit in the history of the United States, justice department investigation of the outing a CIA agent, the indictment of I. Lewis Libby, indictment of White House Director of Procurement Safavian, corruption by the majority leader DeLay, Duke, McCain's illegitimate black baby, W's love child aborted illegally.

TRH,

Nope, purty moch stais thu some...

Nwo hwo od I tarn et uff?

-T

TRH,

The FRG of the IN Guard unit that Sgt Karl deployed with could learn a thing or two from the 3/13th's Family Readiness Group's site!

'Course they were kinda set up for 2 weeks a year and one weekend a month.

-T

Taking Hits

After taking hits for my views on expanding life issues beyond the basic five life issues, pro-life involves many issues beyond five issues. Catholic News Service letters to the editor felt that my life issues were political and not moral issues.

In today's copy of Catholic News Service there is an article by Carol Glatz, "Pro-life concerns should extend to the poor and the war." Carol Glatz wrote the article quoting two speakers at a conference. Their names are Sister Carol Taylor, Director at the Center for Clinical Bioethics at Georgetown University in Washington and Carl Anderson, supreme knight of the Knights of Columbus and a professor of family law at the John Paul II Institute in Washington.

Sister Taylor said some Catholic conservatives chose to dissent from Church teaching, claiming the war is just in nature and they were undeterred by lack of support from the Vatican for the war. (My view is that these 54% of Catholics are accomplices in murders and war crimes for voting for Bush.)

Sister Taylor goes on to say if Catholics want to be serious about creating a culture of life, Catholics need to now think beyond things like abortion and euthanasia. During Katrina people were trapped and killed by the floodwaters and they had no ability to get out. Katrina exposed the immense poverty still plaguing America today. She adds that the elderly in nursing homes died of gross neglect and their deaths aren't as important as the deaths caused by abortion and euthanasia? Catholics must respect, protect, love, and serve every human life.

Carl Anderson said that Catholics are uniquely suited to set up the needed social structures and lobby for political policies that will protect society's most vulnerable members. (My opinion is how can accomplices in murders and war crimes who voted for Bush have the integrity to do what is fair, just, and right for human beings?)

Anderson goes on to say that a culture of life is going to take a much larger response than just going into legislature and restricting abortion legally. Catholics need to be people of life and a people for life by helping support mothers and children. If Roe v Wade is overturned or restricted women and children will need social support and community support. Presently, a public culture that helps women and children is lacking. Anderson told the conference participants that respect for life needs to begin with a consciousness among Catholics of what it really means to be accepting "The Gospel of Life." The Church needs to find ways to evangelize and catechize Catholics and Catholic families to better live out Church teachings on life.

It is my personal and strong belief that our planet cannot survive unless we, as a people, embrace love, mercy, justice, and peace. We must move away from the bushgod that is enamored with hatred, murders, torture, and wars.

I'm a New Yorker so the anti-Bush sentiment runs strong here...

I hear ya! Wish I could say the same, but unfortunately I'm in the reddest of red state, Texas. We're known for being stubborn, even if proven wrong. ack! Baf(fled) is probably a Texan, though I won't claim him.

*named my daughter Randi instead, but she's got my middle name, 'cept spelled diff Lea, instead of Lee

(AP Newswire)

WACO, Texas Dec 1, 2005 — President Bush could get a new title: juror No. 286. The president is among 600 potential jurors who have been summoned to report to court Monday in McLennan County, where his 1,600-acre Crawford ranch is located.
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"I hope I git me one of them thar "Execution" cases...GAWD I miss them!"
- Dubbya

Since the rest of you are waiting spellbound for the rest of the story, here it is. My second daughter is Stefani, and she got her momz middle name, Jo. K, might sound like a hick names to some, but it brings me a smile every time I hear or see it.

Ayana
said:
So a movement promoting peace, meaning saving our troops and innocent Iraqis, is Anti-American?

YES !!!

A movement giving aid to the enemy by encouraging them to continue fighting on longer, by showing them even the small minority of people here in the United States that hate America and are on the side of the terrorists is EXTREMELY ANTI-AMERICAN.

Ayana, In words EVEN YOU can understand:

From the silly things you say, and the ridiculous way you add things up and put them together, your head seems to be filled with POOPY DOODY.

Hajji, you're a nut!! hahaha

You are what you DON't shit, Alan!

-T

Gearld

What do you think about partial birth abortion?

I will make it simple for you.

OK ???

or

NOT OK ???

Now don't run and hide from the question.
Be a big brave man, stand up and loudly speak your mind in front of all of us, like you always do about Bush.

#50 micki, you are right! There are other issues beyond abortion that will really deter our freedoms and rights. If Alito is confirmed, my opinion is that he will be confirmed, still keep your points to be posted to alert the voters on many life and political issues beyond abortion.

Partial birth abortion is murder!!!!!

Bush is a murderer and a war criminal!!!!!

Gerald is INSANE and a TRAITOR !!

Bush is one of the GREATEST AMERICANS PRESIDENTS of all time. President Bush Is a true American Hero.

Mibu:"A movement giving aid to the enemy by encouraging them to continue fighting on longer, by showing them even the small minority of people here in the United States that hate America and are on the side of the terrorists is EXTREMELY ANTI-AMERICAN."

And invading a country that's universally known to be based on lies from adminstration that really doesn't give a shit about Iraqis or their future, without a plan for post Saddam thus making Iraq a breeding ground for terrorist, has provided more aid, comfort, support, and motive to the enemy than anything any anti-war activist says or does.

Mibu: "From the silly things you say, and the ridiculous way you add things up and put them together, your head seems to be filled with POOPY DOODY."

From the silly things I say?!?!?! What the fuck is POOPY DOODY? Does your mommy and daddy know your playing on the computer?

Gerald,

Don't tell the cornpeople how you feel about abortion, or they will turn on you like the pack of dogs they are.

Well, They might let your views on abortion slide by, because you have a completely insane and unreasonable hate for our Great President George W. Bush.

I am pro-life from conception through NATURAL DEATH!!!!!

Bush is a liar and he is guilty of treason!!!!!

ALL LIFE ISSUES ARE IMPORTANT TO ME!!!!!

Bush and his cabal are guilty of murders and war crimes!!!!!

Bush has betrayed life issues, Americans, Iraqis, and the world population!!!!!!!!!!

51 - Saladin

Amen Sister!

We will not go back..

Abortions should be rare ...and very very safe.

So many of the folks that claim that they are pro-life are the very same people

Who vote against welfare for the women that would be forced to carry the pregnancy full term.....

These are the same people who vote against raising the minimum wage....

These are the same people who block funding for higher education....

They are the same people who vote against a national health care system.

These people are PRO-BIRTH ...... They are not PRO- LIFE.

People who are PRO-LIFE support welfare for those who struggle with money, support health care for all, support raising the minimum wage to a living wage, support funding schools and teachers.

BEING PRO-LIFE IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM BEING PRO-BIRTH

There are some trolls on this website that should become a comedy team, such as "The Comedy Acts of Cindi and Sal." Normally, I do not respond to the trolls' comments but Cindi and Sal made me laugh.

I too believe abortion is wrong but who am I to tell someone else not to do it? I also believe homosexuality is wrong but again why should I be able to say what people can or cannot do. I have a severe disdain for busy bodies who think they can dictate their rules to others. Abortion is a personal choice along with gay lifestyle, those who choose either have to live with their decisions, not you or me but them. Tolerance and understanding not laws will work, but as Gerald said there is no support system in place to help people for anything anymore. The same people that are against aborting a FETUS (not baby yet) are willing to support the state sponsored killing through the death penalty or support the stinking war. It's OK to killem after they're adults after all. One more thing, what about a pregnancy says the fetus will come to term anyway, many women have miscarried, the only guarantee you have in life is you will die. Hotbutton issue for many indeed.

#89 kathleen, good points of view!!!!!

ayana

You're such a downer-girl!! I guess blowing Clinton must give you somethig to look forward to in life. He's good at throwing a bone or two out to those in need.

Majority of the country is unhappy-I guess this is why retail sales for Christmas are sky high. The only people unhappy are the pathetic libs that aren't getting any traction on the Cindy Sheenan peace movement.

People forced to take low paying jobs next to me at Burger King- actually my employess make more than the $24,000 that you suggested I make. I also cover their medical. We have plenty of high paying jobs here in the NW. If you can't find one maybe Clinton could give you a desk job with some perks.

Oil co. lied to Congress about secret meeting- who the fuck cares!! If the gas prices are where we want them, Cheney could be getting blow jobs from those oily boys- who cares!!!

I'll give you the horrible spelling and grammar, that's my bone to you- but that's all you have. I'm sorry your life sucks!!!

A movemewnt to save our troops- you don't give a fuck about our troops. It is just a silly little show like the Dems in Congress to gain an advantage for your cause-pathetic bullshit

And your still a whinner!!!!!!!!

Impersonating the Lord

Gerald, don't know if you read Molly Ivins' latest, but she sounded a tad like you. Thought you would get a kick out of it.

"Some Christians seem to me inclined to lose track of love, compassion and mercy. I don't think I have any special brief to go around judging them, but when the stink of hypocrisy becomes so foul in the nostrils it makes you start to puke it becomes necessary to point out there is one more good reason to observe the separation of church and state: If God keeps hanging out with politicians, it's gonna hurt his reputation."

Ayana,

Don't get so Excited,
For your benefit, I was just trying to talk DOWN TO YOUR ELEMENTARY LEVEL, so you could understand.

There were NO LIES, and the post war plan of continue killing terrorists until they are all dead, is working perfectly. My hope is that we can be done with the terrorists in maybe 10 or 15 years,

Everything is working properly!!!

There is no reason for us to SURRENDER and cut and run home to leave the Iraqi's for another POL POT reaction.

COMING SOON: Catholic majority on SCOTUS?

In relative terms, it wasn't so long ago that many Americans were apoplectic about the possibiity of a Catholic president -- many of the most vocal negative voices were Protestant fundies.

I wonder if it has occurred to the Protestant fundies that if Alito is confirmed for SCOTUS, that there will be a Catholic majority on the Court? 5 Catholics: Scalia, Thomas, Kennedy, Roberts -- and possibly Alito. 2 Protestants: Stevens, Souter 2 Jewish: Ginsburg, Breyer. There was a time that this possible majority would have been totally unacceptable.

Or is the American-version of the Roman Catholic Church so far-right that they are a part of what Saladin refers to as kkkevangelical fascists (close)?

I'm not suggesting that the Supremes let their religious afflilations influence their decisions...just an observation. We may have made progress in our level of religious
*tolerance* but when are we going to have a Hindu, Muslim or Buddhist on the Court? I'd wager a Muslim nomination would make the fundies' heads explode.

There is no medical term called "Partial Birth Abortion". Check it out yourself. The AMA has no medical term called "Partial Birth Abortion". This is a made up term that could actually be applied to almost all abortions, not just those that are performed late term. It is designed to get a wedge in to work on criminalizing all abortions.

I am not advocating late term abortions, unless the life of the mother is in danger and then I would advocate to deliver the baby premature, unless this would endager the life of the mother. In the end, this should be the call of the doctor and the woman.

In cases where the fetus is not going to live outside the womb, as in the case of my sister who's fetus did not have a brain, then I would advocate late term abortions. But again, this should be between the doctor and the woman.

My sister had to get through protesters to have her pregnancy terminated. I think she was in her fifth month. A pregnancy she wanted very much and agonized over the decision to terminate it. It was very traumatic for her to have to go through the protesters and to this day she is scarred from the experience.

THE GOVERNMENT AND THE KKKRISTIANS SHOULD STAY OUT OF IT!!!!!!!!!

Alan, How about Wackatroll, heh, heh. Oh one just popped up...THUD! dammit I missed

89 - Kathleen

Again, Amen Sister!

ayana

Now that you mention the 15 minutes are up, what happened to Cindy Sheenan? I thought she was the big movement for you wack-jobs? Boy, she has one bad book signing and you guy's are dropping her like fies, wheres the lib loyalty?

DEN and flan, abortion should not be wedge issue but an issue for medicine and religion.

Most GOP use the wedge for votes but they are really closet pro-death politicians.

ayana

Cheneys secret meeting with oil execs.- That just kills me. Talk about hung up on the past. Ew -secret meeting- and I wasn't invited.

Gas prices expected to go up- talk about pulling one out your ass. Where the fuck do you get your information? I know, you get your news form that comedian Al Franken, the one that thinks he's funny-right?

#94 Carol, I like Molly Ivins because she is a beer drinker from the bottle. She is my kind of woman.

Carol, thank you for a great article!!!

IF GOD KEEPS HANGING OUT WITH POLITICIANS. IT'S GONNA HURT HIS REPUTATION.

Please keep this quote ready for future posts to remind the voters of the importance of separation of Church and state.

ayana where are you?

Busy with Clinton? Since your from NY maybe Hillary instead? I hear she's good with the ladies - ya baby.

Mibu:"Don't get so Excited,
For your benefit, I was just trying to talk DOWN TO YOUR ELEMENTARY LEVEL, so you could understand."

You need to try and talk down to Baf and the rest of your ilk. Try not to use big words, though. But if you're under the impression that throwing talking points at valid points and calling me stupid discredits anything I've said, then it's no wonder half the country and the majority of the planet question the intellect of you Bush ass kissers. You lemmings and the leaders you adore are the pimples on the ass cheeks of every American, past and present. You bow down and salute your messiah Bush, but don't think your so called weak ass attempt to "talk down" to me puts you and that dumbass you call King in a better light to the people who see through his master plan. Nah, fuck that, bow down to Cheney, Rove, and Pat Robertson, they're the ones that yack your strings. Now bend and kiss their asses. Don't forget to recite the latest RNC talking point. God forbid you say something original.

"There were NO LIES"

Okay, that ends the debate. You believe everything Bush says, that's wonderful. I hope and pray that Bush convinces your ass to go to Iraq...you and the people who support this war for oil deserve the fate you assholes feel our troops deserve. You die to give democracy to Iraqis. We'll elect a democrat president who'll start protecting us at home by securing our borders and airports. Yeah, I know "we're fighting them there so we don't have to fight them here". Okay dumbass, it only took a hand full of terrorist to claim the lives of 3,000 Americans, but keep your head in the sand. The terrorist probably aren't interested in bombing your Food Depot anyway. Take your "intellectual" ass back to your doublewide and stop insulting our intelligence with your Bush doublespeak...

Seven Basic Principles

When I vote, I use a certain criteria to help me. There are seven basic principles that will help me.

1. Life and Dignity of the Human Person

Democrats are said to believe in a culture of death. Let us take a close look as to what they stand for, pro-health care, pro-affordable drugs, pro-increase in the minimum wage, pro-medical coverage of a person with a preexisting medical condition.
Republicans contribute to the culture of death through their programs of no coverage for a person with a preexisting medical condition, no affordable drugs, no health coverage for all Americans, no clean environment, no increase in the minimum wage.

2. Human Rights and Responsibilities

Democrats have passed civil rights policies and they are pro-education.
Republicans favor the rich and the super rich and tax cuts with people who have money.

3. A Call to Family and Community

Democrats seek for everyone to vote, increase in the quality of life, and improvements in community development.
Republicans thwart the voting rights of Americans like in Florida and Ohio. The rich have offshore tax shelters and the common person pay the bills. Rigged elections favor the Republicans.

4. The Dignity of Work and the Rights of Workers

Democrats have a rich history and a track record of supporting workers.
The Republicans have a sad history and a sad track record toward the workers. They also want to destroy social security and medicare.

5. The Option for the Poor

Democrats have a rich history in trying to help the poor.
Republicans oppose the minimum wage and they attempt to cut programs for the poor so the tax cuts go to the rich.

6. Solidarity

The Democrats favor a community of people working together for the common good.
Republicans have a hate and kill mentality for our global neighbors.

7. Care of God’≥ Creation

Democrats have a strong desire for a clean environment that would enhance the quality of life.
Republicans have exploited the environment for the benefit of corporations and the Republicans have blocked treaties that would improve the environment.

Historically, I see the Democrats as people who are interested in the common good of all peoples. I see the Republicans as people who are filled hypocrisy, lies, greed, and corruption.

Hajji #75

The President would not survive the "voyer dyer" process. Any smart Texas lawyer would know he wouldn't be "fare & imparshall."

Catholic Social Teaching

To consider yourself a Catholic Christian and not a Catholic Fundamentalist, a Catholic Nazi, or a Catholic Taliban you must adhere to Catholic Social Teaching. The Catholic bishops have stressed ten areas that are important in Catholic Social Teaching.

1. Respect for the dignity and life of the human person, from conception to NATURAL DEATH
2. Call to family and community life
3. The right and duty to participate in social, economic, and political life
4. Advancing the common good to love our neighbor
5. Promoting peace and social justice
6. Promoting human rights and responsibilities
7. Special care and concern for the poor and vulnerable
8. The dignity of work and the rights of workers
9. Solidarity –†loving our neighbor locally and globally
10. Caring for God’≥ creation: stewardship of the earth

Unless these areas are important to you, you cannot consider yourself a Catholic Christian.

Baf:"Busy with Clinton? Since your from NY maybe Hillary instead? I hear she's good with the ladies - ya baby."

Not as busy as you are with Clinton. BTW, Hilary just called and ask me to pass you a message. Stop two-waying her husband. That Glen Close fatal attraction thing will land you in jail. He's not interested in your...ummm.."lip service".

Well Queer Eye, I'm about to bounce. I have a life. Seriously dude, go get a drink, maybe it will help you get over Clinton constantly turning down your sexual advancements. He is a handsome devil, and he mastered the English language. I understand why you're constantly swing on his gonads's. Gotta go, Sweetcheeks...

Hey, stand up straight. What, do you think this is, Oz the TV show?

Ayana
said

There were NO LIES"

Okay, that ends the debate. You believe everything Bush says, that's wonderful.

Okay dumbass, it only took a hand full of terrorist to claim the lives of 3,000 Americans

I say:

There were NO LIES"

Okay, that ends the debate. You believe everything THOSE LEFT WING ANTI-AMERICAN web sites, and left leaning news papers say, that's wonderful.

Ayana said:
it only took a hand full of terrorist ,

I say:

YEAH, and you don't want to hunt down terrorists, YOU WANT TO SURRENDER.

Anana, you are nothing more than an GUTLESS, IGNORANT, BACK-BITING, TRAITOROUS, F**KEN idiot.

Now ayana

Sorry to hear about the pimples on your ass, maybe if you would get off your ass and get a job they would go away.

Just because I support our troops, unlike you phonies, this does not make me a Bush ass kisser. I do not support the run away spending or the lack of border support. I also could care less about Pat Robertson, he's a phony like you. Rove is brilliant and you libs have not been able to out wit him in any situation- OK, shock me name one. I happen to think that the repubs should loose the House in 06 to slap some sense into them, they act more like you trolls with all there spending and corruption.

You'll elect a Democrat President- who? Please, I'm dying to know! I would say that you are a (somebody) doublespeak, but you have no leaders. All that is left is this wacky war crap you keep coming back to.

The Dimwits Dems in Congress are still trying to come up with something to stand for as a platform to run on, but we are told that we will have to wait until next year. This is the superior intelligence you speak of? Your all fucking morons!!!

Ayana

Not as busy as you are with Clinton.

Well, he did beg me to let him blow me, but when I showed him my package, he knew even his big mouth couldn't take me in. Yours might though!!!

Mibu:"Anana, you are nothing more than an GUTLESS, IGNORANT, BACK-BITING, TRAITOROUS, F**KEN idiot."....says the troll who supports the war from afar...

It's spelled Ayana. It's right in your fucking face. How the fuck do you misspell shit that's right in your own face?

Mibu:"Okay, that ends the debate. You believe everything THOSE LEFT WING ANTI-AMERICAN web sites, and left leaning news papers say, that's wonderful."

Umm, no Forrest Gump, I believe the DIA, CIA, FBI, IAEA, and all the other intelligence officials that have recently stated that they warned the Bush administration before the 2003 State of the Union that Saddam's capabilities were questionable at best. Your dumbass believe this stupid ass shit "We'll, we were wrong but so was everyone else". You fucking idiot. I'm out of here troll.

But before I go, pucker up real tight..and...........kick my goddamn ass.

Peace beeyotch....

Ayana

What a trash mouth on you girl!! You must be one of those ignorant sluts, Hajji was talking about.

Hurricane Bush

We keep hearing about Katrina and Rita as level 5 hurricanes. Yes these hurricanes will affect 6 or 7 states but a Hurricane Bush is a level 10 and this hurricane effects 50 states. Since I am a very kind person, I will not add the other 50 or so countries that have been affected by Hurricane Bush. Hurricane Bush has been a total disaster and causing total destruction and devastation to our planet. We can also add some hot air to this hurricane and global warming is also affecting our planet. Hurricane Bush has been a hot air and a heavy wind hurricane for nearly five years.

Okay dumbass, it only took a hand full of terrorist to claim the lives of 3,000 Americans

sure dumbass

• A retired Air Force Colonel who flew over 100 combat missions and was the director of the Star Wars defense program under both Republican and Democratic administrations recently said:

"If our government had merely done nothing, and allowed normal procedures to happen on that morning of 9/11, the twin towers would still be standing, and thousands of dead Americans would still be alive. That is treason!"

• The 9-11 Commission refused to examine the vast majority of evidence about 9/11, and even the former director of the FBI says there was a cover up by the 9/11 Commission

Ayana

Ah come on, I was just getting warmed up!! I guess she shot her load already. I do admit, it was fun, at least she could keep up unlike you regular trolls.

Ayana: 113

play on words,
You know,

A Nanny, sometimes refered to by kids as, a nana. She is usually a silly old lady, left home by grown-ups to sit with the kids, since she isn't capable of doing anything else.

Use your F**king poopy doody brain, FOR ONCE.

God grant, that not only the love of liberty, but a thorough knowledge of the rights of man, may pervade all the nations of the earth, so that a philosopher may set his foot anywhere on its surface, and say, This is my country." : Benjamin Franklin to David Hartley, 4 December 1789

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Unless you become more watchful in your States and check this spirit of monopoly and thirst for exclusive privileges, you will in the end find that the most important powers of Government have been given or bartered away, and the control of your dearest interests have been passed into the hands of these corporations: Andrew Jackson, farewell address, 04 March 1837

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"What is the great Amercican sin? Extravagance? Vice? Graft? No; it is a kind of half-humorous, good-natured indifference, a lack of "concentrated indignation" as my English friend calls it, which allows extravagance and vice to flourish. Trace most of our ills to their source, and it is found that they exist by virtue of an easy-going, fatalistic indifference which dislikes to have its comfort disturbed....The most shameless greed, the most sickening industrial atrocities, the most appalling public scandals are exposed, but a half-cynical and wholly indifferent public passes them by with hardly a shrug of the shoulders; and they are lost in the medley of events. This is the great American sin.": Joseph Fort Newman, Atlantic Monthly, October 1922

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Thanks ICH newsletter!

Ayana 61, that just shows how amazingly ignorant the trolls are! Gas prices are down? Do they even have a clue why? It's because Europe has been selling us 2 million barrels of refined petroleum and oil a day from their strategic reserves. That is about to end, just in time for heating oil season. I guess Fox News forgot to mention that.
Kathleen 89, you have to be pro-birth but not pro-life, otherwise, where will you get the cannon fodder??

Main Entry: voir dire
Pronunciation: 'vwär-'dir, 'wär-
Function: noun
Etymology: Anglo-French, from Old French, to speak the truth
: a preliminary examination to determine the competency of a witness or juror

Capt,

As a political science major and husband of a lawyer, I hope you know I misspelled voir dire on porpoise. But, the definition you provided, spot on.

#46 James Ha....These mossad/art student celebrating the towers imploding was swept under the rug.

We need to stay alert as the AIPAC/ROSEN/FRANKLIN/WEISMANN TRIAL COMES UP IN APRIL.

People need to pre-empt this trial and let the media know that we are watching...we are demanding that they give cover this story...give it at least as much coverage as the Micheal Jackson trial. At least.

If Aipac/zoa(zionist of america)/ADL (anti-defemation league)/ Jinsa (jewish institute of national security agency) have their way...no one in the media will cover this trial.

We really need to start hammering the media in March...demanding that they cover it.

We can be sure that the next AIPAC conference which is in March will be focused on Syria. The last one was completely focused on Iran( I watched the conference and it was set up like a Hollywood awards presentation). Both Ariel Sharon and Richard Perle stated that the U.S. should use our military against Iran. Basically threatening war/acts of aggression.

Didn't here much about this in our media .did we?

You are what you DON't shit, Alan!

I'm baaaack... and way behind.

Hajji ====> LOL I seen that one yesterday? when you posted it and 'bout fell out my chair! Or was that Capt's "Wavy Gravy" link? Who said that?... cause now I wanna remember!

oh yeah, in a semi-religious email I opened while ago, one of the things she said was "God wants spiritual fruit, not
religious nuts."
Thought that was pretty good.

I'm very left and would like to see there be as few abortions as possible. Why? Because abortions are costly, involve some health risks, and can (usually) be avoided through preventative measures. Many folks don't like abortion until they have a relative who was raped and impregnated, or who has a severely deformed child in their womb (this is why partial abortions are necessary). The trick is education. Must teach the masses about contraceptives, make them widely available. And, most of all, we must empower women. Once they (and others) realize that it is their body, their womb, and, therefore, their choice, we will likely see abortion rates drop.

Ayana, AKA, James ha,

You must have felt the need to get some profanity out the way you pretend