This whole CIA Leak thing is just the same as Watergate, however, spitting on the sidewalk is just the same as Watergate. Neither Watergate nor CIA leakgate are important in the slightest.

David,

I must say that sometimes your defeatist attitude toward politicians, and political strategy is...well....tiresome? (re: post about Dems and the closed session)

The Republicans have taken the game of political power plays to a whole new level. The Dems better get on board or forever be cast as wusses. And wusses (or as the strategists say, "mother") will never be a majority...ever. At this point, Dems have nothing to lose. Playing it tough improves image if nothing else. And the polls/public are behind someone holding Bush accountable...somehow. So what's to lose by getting on the bandwagon?

Mr. David Corn,

I would just ask "Roger L. Simon, one of the co-creators, swears, is to promote bloggers of the left and right" does that mean you are putting all of your eggs in his basket or his eggs in yours and IF it all goes badly it is on his word because he swears?

What is balance of perspective and who will make the call in the PJM?

Either way, any news on Cliffy taking the $5,000 bet? Is he true enough to his craft to offer a correction or retraction? Maybe that should come first?

Thanks for the update

Kirk

fitzgerald may be done indicting and he may not, but trying to judge that from his body english should be beneath you, david.

Regarding Rove?

I stand by my prediction that no indictment on Friday with Libby, he skates.

Libby is the fall guy, intertwined roots, aspens and all.

This is American character in the last throes.

No Rove indictment means the take-over is complete. All three branches molded into one under a petty tyrant. In America, who would have thought it possible.

This could actually backfire. I am ready for anything.

capt

Hey everybody, it's been a year since John Kerry and the democrat's defeat!!!

November 2, 2004 was the day that the American people voted to re-elect President George W. Bush!!

With rigged elections as the American way of life the Nazi/fascist takeover is complete. We are now all slaves to a despicable god, the bushgod.

Gearld, it is a good thing that you have a GOD like our GREAT PRESIDENT BUSH, to take care of you, since you are obviously to stupid to take care of yourself. Now stop wasting everyone's time by spewing the ridiculous garbage that you manufacture inside your little pea brain.

Go away!! Do not post here again!! Ever!!!

Just finished commenting on the previous Pajamas post and found this... and I can't believe what I'm reading. Roger L. Simon "swears" the goal is to "foster debate" -- and you believe him? Have you read the guy's site, like at all? For the love, man, this is like Gorgeous George soberly promising that his next wrestling match will involve no rule-breaking or undue showmanship.

Just finished commenting on the previous Pajamas post and found this... and I can't believe what I'm reading. Roger L. Simon "swears" the goal is to "foster debate" -- and you believe him? Have you read the guy's site, like at all? For the love, man, this is like Gorgeous George soberly promising that his next wrestling match will involve no rule-breaking or undue showmanship.

The dems better get nasty and start to out these guys and quick otherwise they can just all go home and grovel to keep their jobs at kissing ass in the senate. Sure it might be fun for the repugs to laugh at this but the country is going down the drain and it will not benefit anyone to have that happen, and trolls can kiss my ass. Just a thought, so watch for more non news from the MSM and wonder what happened to your lifestyle get ready for the gulag and oh yeh, no traveling the bird flu is out and about. Live it up folks the end is near.

Corn's speculation leading up to the indictment was wrong and his intel on further indictments is wrong. period. Fitzy is going after Rove and probably Cheney and maybe Bush. This format was exactly what he did in Illinois.

What corporate interests? Condaweasel: Chevron, she must have really impressed her boss, she got her own oil tanker. Rummy: G.D.Searle Pharm. remember Swine Flu? How about Nutrasweet? Chainster: Halliburton, famous for no bid contract awards. Butch(er) Harken Energy, defunct? USA soon to be defunct also. Strange joined at the hip behavior coming from Rummy and Condaweazle camp. I think I smell RATS at work.

1-800-USA-ARMY

Let me start by saying for all of you who love Bush as your god, join the military services at 1-800-USA-ARMY.

I hate this war with Iraq because it is a wrong and an immoral war. As the death toll of American soldiers rise, I am more furious because these soldiers have been killed for the Bush lies, for oil, for us to bring down Saddam Hussein and replace him with a more corrupt government. In my readings Iraq is a very corrupt government. We have American soldiers killed not to spread democracy but to establish a corrupt government. How do the parents and loved ones feel about their sons, daughters, husbands, and wives being killed for a corrupt government?

Bush, cheney, rumsfeld, and a host of other regime officials are nothing more than scumbags, slime balls, and low life sludges. These people are perverse, demented, depraved, and deranged creatures.

Anyone who voted for these murderous thugs are accomplices in the murder of American soldiers and the Iraqi people.

Religious Right

I also heard on radio that the religious right controls America. We are becoming a Christian nation similar to Islam. Islam is more of a political ideologue and not a religion. American Christianity is more of a political ideologue and not a religion. America has forsaken God for the antichrist of money, nuclear weapons, and the bushgod.

America worships evil gods.

Gearld,

If there is a GOD, he hates you. Your God would despise anyone that believes in murdering babies, or stands with other selfish ass holes that believe in murdering babies. Your God has a deep loathing of your pro death views!

Lee Bailey Hutchinson

Legal Technicalities

I would like to comment on something that slime and scum said. When Clinton was in office, the repugnants came after him for what they considered perjury and obstruction of justice charges. These were criminal acts.

But, when a repugnant is guilty of perjury and obstruction of justice charges, these charges are considered legal technicalities. Lee Bailey Hutchinson is the poster child for what is wrong with America. We have slime and scum running and ruining this country like Lee Bailey Hutchinson.

There was not much said about Hutchinsonճ comments because we know that the repugnant cabal is crazy. However, we must not overlook these crazy comments by nutcases like Lee Bailey Hutchinson.

Words to the bushgod

Here are the words to the bushgod that the neocons, the fundamentalists, and the evangelicals recite on a daily basis.

Dear bushgod may we be like you in every way. May we embrace your thinking and your beliefs so that we can be more like you. You are our emperor and our king. We want to honor you and worship you more and more.

Let us fondly accept the seven wondrous characteristics of you, our bushgod. Please let us always pursue these characteristics daily and keep them close to us. Please let us hate, kill, torture, crave wars, be corrupt, greedy, and incessant liars. We believe that these seven wondrous characteristics will always make us happy.

My response to Robert Schwartz and the questions he asked me.

Robert Schwartz to your question on where I stand on certain issues. I oppose abortion but I do not want to go down the road of legal and moral arguments. I oppose abortion because I see women as Godճ greatest creation and anything that defames or degrades Godճ greatest creation I will oppose. I believe that abortion defames and degrades Godճ greatest creation. Women possess two characteristics that place them in my eyes as Godճ greatest creation; these characteristics are nurturing and sensitivity. Rather than abort a woman should let the baby be born and put up for adoption. I am not a woman and I will never give birth to a baby so I cannot judge a woman and her decision to abort or not abort.

With regard to gay rights I oppose gay rights because I believe a womanճ love is the greatest experience of my life and I would want men to have the same experiences. Here again it is not for me to judge. This is my personal opinion and not delving into legal or moral arguments.

I have no problem with shopping on Sunday. Americans are working longer and harder hours for less and less money. A person must shop when they have time to shop. These are my opinions and God will be the final judge for each of our decisions. I have enough problems with my own sins to pass judgment on another person. When it comes to bush, I am giving people my perceptual opinions of him.

The Lordճ Prayer

Never forget that we all fall under the umbrella of being interconnected and interdependent as brothers and sisters in God.

I would like to start with the Lordճ Prayer.

Our Father, Who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name. Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil. Amen.

As Christians, when we recite the Our Father, we must remember that the prayer is more than just words. The prayer is a powerful prayer.

Let us look at the words beyond rote memory. When we say the Our Father, we are acknowledging God as the Father, Our Father. This acknowledgement means that God is the Father of all His children but it is more than the fact that we are His children. We are united in God as brothers and sisters. We are all brothers and sisters.

We know that God is in heaven and that His name will be revered on earth as in heaven. His kingdom is the earth and heaven. We are also asking God for nourishment. As we ask God for nourishment to sustain us, we are asking God to forgive any transgressions and we are to also forgive people who have transgressed against us. Father John Corapi in his lectures equates the daily bread with the Eucharist that Catholics receive at daily Mass. Catholics have a double concern when they recite the Our Father and for Catholics to want to kill their brothers and sisters is a clear indication of irreverence to God. As I have said in some previous posts, that irreverence to God is eternal perdition. I have asked that all of Godճ children to never show irreverence to God but I especially appeal to my brothers and sisters to never worship a false god which would show irreverence to the true God.

We are also asking God to not be sinful but to keep us away from sin.

The prayer is not just words but it is a powerful statement that we are accepting God as Our Father and as Christians we are united in God as brothers and sisters.

To recite the Our Father and to hate, kill, and revel in wars we really are not Christians. We are instead dishonoring God and we are separated from Him through our sinful ways. To separate ourselves from God, we are on the road to eternal damnation.

In praying we must ask ourselves the question. How can I give glory to God? We can give glory to God by loving and showing mercy to all our brothers and sisters. We are united with God as a family and a community as His children for all eternity.

US military Casualties

W.W.II -- 295,000

Vietnam War -- 58,202

United States Civil War -- 620,000
Battle of Gettysburg -- 46,000

Iraq war on terrorism -- 2,000

Fortunately for the USA, the war on terrorism being fought in Iraq is nothing like the Vietnam war. Anyone who even mentions them in the same breath is ignorant or a liar.

The Bush administration has waged the most successful, urgent, essential, necessary military action in the history of the United States.

Keep up the excellent work Mr. President. We all appreciate what you are doing for us.

Fortunately for the USA, the war on terrorism being fought in Iraq is nothing like the Vietnam war. Absolutely true. It's much more pointless and humiliating: 1. Over 2,000 KIAs in only two years (so far) inflicted by a tiny, rag-tag and disunited force of insurgents against a military far more imposing than was dreamed of in the Vietnam era. 2. An inability to govern the conquered territory, and a lack of legitimacy, far more complete than Vietnam at its worst -- to the point where basic security oil output remains substandard even now, when control of oil is the last even remotely plausible rationale left standing for the war. 3. An "Iraqification" programme in such a shambles that by USAF's own admission it has yielded one battle-worthy Iraqi proxy battalion -- a level of failure that thus far puts the scandal of Nixon's "Vietnamization" to shame. 4. A corresponding dent in the credibility of American conventional military power (over 150,000 troops tied down in vain pursuit of a Z-grade military opponent), and a destruction of vital American strategic interests that dwarfs the relatively marginal theatre that was Vietnam. 5. A California-sized urban warfare training ground for America's enemies, paid for by American taxpayers -- some of whom are still gullible enough to be thanking their President for this mess. Allison is right, in a sense. Iraq is nothing like Vietnam. As military men who aren't muzzled by the strictures of current service have pointed out, it's worse.

David Corn, I really like reading your posts. They are thoughtful and insightful. However with respect to Pajamas Media you have a great big blind spot. THEY ARE USING YOU. With the announced cast of characters in that project it cannot turn out any other way. If you want to see what your future will look like, check out HANNITY and colmes.

Profiled today on the Pajam Media site: Michelle Malkin, author of Liberals Gone Wild and Unhinged and I Hate Them" or something like that. How on earth do you "foster debate" with someone like that?

I wonder, are you featured in her tome, Mr. Corn?

David and all, I have been thinking a great deal today about why it took the Democrats and honestly I wish it would have been some Republidans too, to demand that Phase II of the SSCI to be implemeted.
When you think that this investigation has been left hanging for over a year and a half, and Senator Pat Roberts (and I am sure many others) have done everything to keep it from going forward as promised.
Now what I am about to say is not going to win me many friends, expecially at this site. And while I appreciate ( I am learning to suck up, which I am not very good at it) everything journalist like David Corn , Arianna Huffington try to do by reporting accurately and honestly. And David did write about Phase II and put a petition on either his or the Nations website ( I can't remember which).

I believe The majority of the press, journalist and Mainstream media failed the american public yet again in shedding light and informing the public about Phase II not moving forward.

I know that I contacted Diane Rehm over 3o times in the last year (writing, getting on her show, and calling her "leave messages line" too many times to remember. I literally begged her on the air to do program with Senator Roberts and Senator Rockerfeller. I really did politely beg. I also did this on Talk of the Nation with Neil conan, and wrote and left suggesstions on doing show on NPr. This was also done with C-Span all year.

Now if you review the programming with these shows, there was nothing done on these programs focused on this important topic. Someone with the skills could review many of the liberal magazines to see if much was written about Phase II not being implemented. I know I did not read much out there about it, and I do really try to read from the right, left and center.
The question I am asking is if journalist would have done their part and informed the public more about this issue and written, aired programs talked about on T.V. WOULD THE DEMOCRATS HAVE GOTTEN MORE SUPPORT FOR PUSHING THIS THROUGH MUCH EARLIER....I BELIEVE SO.

DID THE MEDIA FAIL TO DO IT'S JOB AGAIN? DAVID I AM NOT POINTINT AT YOU

Come on, wasn't Wolcott's post funny as hell? I mean, ""Jugs" is not a word I would have associated with Corn's word processor. Perhaps he confused Vanity Fair with another fine publication, whose editors would no doubt consider Miss Hilton's upper assets a bit on the dainty side for their audience's tastes." He's hilarious! As someone who has bought "The Lies of George W. Bush", this is the REAL question: As someone who can call a lie a lie, what are you going to do when your new group of friends start lying their asses off? Are you going to nod, smile, and disagree politely? Or are you going to say, "That's a lie, and stop it!"

Perhaps David is joining the Pajama Media site on the very probable chance that someone who only ever hears all the right-wing bull hockey and talking points that get published as news might actually read one of his columns. And maybe even if they disagree with him, he may put a small kernel of doubt (or corn) in their minds and they may say, "Well, that's interesting. I never thought of it that way." (They are a bunch of gullible sheep, after all, and blow whichever way the wind blows.) And maybe it's better to keep your enemies closer, as they say, because once they get to know him they may actually decide that the word "liberal" is not the dirty word that Rush Limpaugh or Chicken-Legs Coulter claim it is. And maybe it pays better too. I say, congratulations David! Make us proud!

Lending legitimacy with your name to a declare fascist as Michael Leeden is not only a mistake but an aberration. But hi, you want to portrait youserf as politicaly correct, so be it. For when the finger point the moon the idiot look at the finger.

IF YOU HAVE NOT CALLED, WRITTEN OR VISITED YOUR REPRESENTATIVES...DEMANDING THE IMMEDIATE IMPLEMENTATION OF PHASE II OF THE SSCI.... DO IT TOMORROW. ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO THE SAME.

THE DEMOCRATS HAVE PUSHED THE INVESTIGATION NOW IT IS OUR JOB TO GET RIGHT BEHIND THEM AND PUSH SOME MORE. MOST AMERICANS BELIEVE THAT ALL OF THE INTELLIGENCE AND HOW IT WAS USED HAS BEEN COMPLETELY INVESTIGATED.

IT WAS THE MEDIA'S JOB TO INFORM AND SHED LIGHT ON THIS ISSUE OVER A YEAR AGO. VERY FEW JOURNALIST HAVE DONE THEIR JOB ON THIS ISSUE. OUR JOB AS CITIZENS IS TO PUSH, CALL , DEMAND THAT OUR REPRESENTATIVES DO THEIRS.

CALL, WRITE, E-MAIL SENATOR ROBERTS, ROCKERFELLER AND YOUR REPRESENTATIVES. PRESSURE...PRESSURE...PRESSURE.

IF YOU JUST BLOG...THAT IS NOT ENOUGH.

Thanks for the laffs on the credibility/plans of the Pajamas' proprietors. You see, this is the sort of subtle satire and self-parody that a bludgeon-wielding, uncouth Philistine like James Wolcott could never hope to pull off.

I mean, to read your latest, one would almost think that never read any of the contributors you're going to be thrown in with. And we all know THAT'S not the case.

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Well, thanks, David, though I remain unconvinced that Pajamas will be a plus for what I have thus far found to be intelligent blogging. If it's an issue of paying the bills, I think there must be better ways. If it's an honest desire for bipartisan debate, I will give it a 4, but I can't dance to it. I think we have ample evidence that there can be no such thing with a dishonest and christofascist right. I'd respect you a lot more if you had said that when you learned about May and Ledeen, you said, sorry, not worth it for me and mine. zennurse Please ditch #31 and #32, thanks

thank you for remaining gracious to wolcott. for being indulgent rather than vindictive. says a lot about you.

i'm hoping you will use your new venture as a trojan horse. waiting to attack once invited into the enemy camp's gates.

Whoever the Jerkoff is that added the lesbovian trash: Go post your jerking material somewhere else!

I expect Republicans to be willfully stupid hoping that you'll buy any BS supporting their own agenda, but David Corn I thought was better than that. Roger Simon promised you. I'm sure you can take that to the bank.