It isn't looting, it is salvage, the water makes this a salvage operation and aren't salvors allowed to claim their salvage? Just curious but if I were there, it wouldn't matter if the store was open if I needed water, food, or even a plasma tv for the entertainment value, what are they going to do with it? No power, so it is useless, those folks are going mad in a mad situation, the miniscule amount of good lost is not worth it in the big picture. Besides didn't rumdumb say democracy is messy and they are just enjoying a little freedom? I mean if it is OK for the Iraqis I Would think it was just fine for americans or are we less free than the Iraqis?

I am sickened by the situation in NewOrleans, that money was diverted from protecting this city in spite of obvious perril, that those individuals locked in this Hell of eppic perportions have been seemingly abandoned by their goverment. That suicide escaltes.

Is this still the United States of America????????

IS IT????????????

Mr. David Corn,

A good post on a very sad day. There are no r or d victims. All are American victims in this disaster and a sense of community and the civic responsibility to those in need demand we all give what we can and do everything in our power to help. I like your honesty about the looting and food.

Who would let their children starve?

Thanks

Kirk

Day 4 No food No water, No cops, and we are shocked at what?......................Looting!

What would you do in the same situation? I suspect looting would occur to you, it is a survival skill you need to adopt when abandoned by your goverment.

Let them loot Bubba, it might take their minds of how YOU SCREWED THEM, AND US. Why do we care so much about very desperate people (abandoned by thier country due to lack of funds) grabbing a bunch of toxic crap? Ever wonder?

What is RFK Jr. doing to help other than sit on the wall and toss grenades. New Orleans itself is becoming a major enviromental concern, and what is RFK doing to help?

Why doesn't he get off his ass and take a break from fighting AGAINST the alternative energy advocates that want to put Wind power in the ocean near his palacial compound in Massachussets, and do something to help the poor people of the Gulf Coast.

If an idiotic evangelist said AIDS is God's punishment for Sin, then RFK is even more idiotic and insensitive to imply that these are Red State, Oil Rich, Gulf Coasters that are reaping what they sow.

Mr. Kennedy, can you be any more insensitive?

http://www.attytood.com I cant get this link to light up, but the site is attytood.

They cover the failure of this Administration to address this particular problem, and how NewOrleans got 1/5 of the funds they needed to address the Levy issue. Barely enough to pay salaries, Not enough to fix anything, in spite of obvious danger. OBVIOUS DANGER.

Because W needed to pay for his fake war.

Hard to blame a population in the midst of utter devestation for trying to provide shelter, food, clothing and protection for themselves and their families by breaking into stores and such.

Hard to see how video games, TV's, stereos and electric appliances fit into the mix, though. The biggest problem, it seems is the disorderly conduct of people just waiting to GET THE FUCK OUT of there.

Got word from Dr. Pace last night, heading to stage out of Hattiesburg and then on to Biloxi with a medical team. While his orthopaedic skills will undoubtably be welcome, he thinks just getting places set up to serve as identification stations to acknowledge the survivors and give them a place to come for nutrition, medical care and ESPECIALLY pychological and social assistance is paramount.

Jill's all packed and working at her regular job like a fiend to tie up every loose end she can. People who live to serve others are almost universally like thoroughbreds in the KY Derby gates, springs coiled, waiting for the bell.
They're thinking Monday or Tuesday. I'm packing her some extra bug spray.

-T

It might be helpful, TJ (but likely not) If you'd either choose to provide a quote from someone you're blasting, or at the very least a link to share, so we might investigate the etimology of the giant bug that's crawled past your rectum.

-T

I don't think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees.

George W. Bush 9/1/2005 Good Morning America.

As much as I'd like my donation to be recognized as coming from the "liberal blogosphere", I feel better giving directly to the Red Cross which I'm going to do as soon as I finish typing this comment.

All perishable food, and a good deal of the rest (bottled water for instance) is routinely condemed after fires and floods and has no commercial value. I know this from 25 years in the insurance business. The looters might as well take it. But that's not all they were looting, is it? Looting leads to violence, arson and further loss of life, as we are now witnessing, and for which you are an apologist and enabler, albeit indirectly.

Bones,

When the levee breaks

There you go!

capt

Hajji,

Once in a store, the many other odd items might be taken in hopes of trading with someone who "looted" food?

Not to mention, in the words of Rummy the Dummy: "They are just letting off a little steam" and "Disaster is a messy business."

Are all of those looting for just survival? Doubtful but they just cheated death on their door step and there is little reason for them to think that help will save them anytime soon.

The fact is there was pretty good warnings in advance, if not last year or before once weather predictions started reporting last week.

Just sayin', You know?

capt

David,

We are in NO WAY ready for any of the calamities you listed at the end of your article. First responders nationwide repeatedly echo your concerns and beg for more equipment, supplies and personel, but those warnings and implorements been repeatedly swept under the rug.

The loss of life from Katrina is likely to rival that of 9/11/01. The lingering health, psychological and financial detriments will, undoubtably, be unprecidented in our nation.

For those who have pooh-pooh'd the concerns of environmentalists for the loss of wetland buffers (previously posted) at a rate of a football field every half-hour, let them know that each mile of nature's protection can absorb at least a foot of tidal storm surge. The dredging of shipping channels, pollution and warming of coastal waters has a direct impact on the survivability of hurricanes.

#9, Benson, echoes Condi's post 9/11 statement...
"I don't think ANYBODY could have predicted that someone would hijack airliners and fly them into buildings..."

Even though Federal disaster scenarios had drilled for exactly that, not to mention the premise of Tom Clancy's book "Debt of Honor" and its sequal.

How could Bush be so goddam ignorant that he'd be oblivious to EXACTLY the thing that's been the MAIN WORRY of New Orleans for DECADES??!!!

What a Maroon!
-Bugs

-T

JB, that quote from Bush is priceless, is it not? But then, there's so many to choose from.

Next up: "Nobody anticipated those buildings falling down during the earthquake."

Good point, Capt.

But what worries me most is not the ones who looted the food, first, but the ones who looted the Guns, last.

-T

It is too bad that we were not storing all of the evoting machines in New Orleans.

In 1964 a Tsunami destroyed the City of Valdez, Alaska. When they rebuilt, they moved the city 4 miles away to a safer location. Of course, there is no shortage of land in Alaska.

In California, there are plenty of natural disasters that limit what can be rebuilt. Houses lost in slide areas, raging streams in canyons, cliff erosion, beach erosion, and other such hazardous locations prevent homes from being rebuilt.

Why is New Orleans any different? Does it make sense to rebuilt a city that is below sea level? You have to consider this will not be the last hurricane to hit the Gulf Coast. We are focused on the human misery right now, but down the road, what is going to be left when they pump out the water? Why would an insurance company cover the risk of rebuilding?

I know! Let's cut Federal Taxes again!

NOt looting salvage that is all it is. What would you do in that situation? Guns would be one of the things I would want, along with food and water, and later on the plasma tv, but hey all goods in that mess are gone and will be written off, so apologizing is not what is going on here, reality, enabling, what would you be doing in that same situation, if you haven't been there then don't think that you are so superior morally or any other way, disaster is a great leveler. All of the folks there need some assitance and our leader in chief is totally unprepared both now and in the past, hell that is what you get when you elect a cheerleader for president and let him rape our country for his buddies, this deserves to be prosecuted and quick.

The police have more or less stated that taking food for survival purposes is understandable - but these people are taking plenty of other things that will never help them survive - how can you defend this?

Secondly it's interesting you call for the estate tax to be maintained to pay for the rebuilding of the Gulf Coast. Why don't those people that have to pay the estate tax give generously for the same purpose. You have no interest in freedom, you simply trust your (liberal) government to do the "right" thing. Have we learned nothing over the ages with regard to power? Politicians of all stripes love to consolidate power to enact their vision - which mandatorily conflicts with someone elses vision. Keep America free!

Take away the infrastructure and we(humans) revert to little fiefdoms ruled by tribal warlords with delusions of power.

The guns are important. Some will use them as a vehicle of defense others to inflict their self-appointed power in their petty little heads.

Not to mention with the value and popularity (necessity at times) of guns and ammo, they can be traded for more food than a pair of Levi’s or other stuff.

If I were in their position I would not want to be the guy without arms if I had to protect my family from lawlessness.

This type of major disaster will bring out the best in good people and the worst in bad people. Best to side in favor of caution.

Criminals will be criminals and as opportunists will take any advatage they can. The natural disaster is just another "opportunity" for them to pursue their acts in contempt of social order. They see chaos as a way to do what they would have likely done if not for laws being enforced and social order as a norm.

IMHO

capt

What liberal government are you talking about the repugs control all three branches of the government and this is what we get? Get a grip on this bucko, it ain't the liberals that are causing this, keep your damn money and when the disaster hits you and you want some help hope that you don't get shot when you are out looking for something. So what if they steal some bling, or clothes made in china, or other stuff, they are damn poor in a desperate situation do you think that they are thinking clearly? The cops are trying and it is not a normal situation the value of the looted goods is miniscule compared to the total damage that is done, and probably only done by ten percent so let's focus on the other ninety that need some assistance. WHERE THE HELL IS IT? No preparation by this dimbulb of a president and none of the neo cons, no corps are sending their crfap their and you sure don't hear the oil boys talking about anything except their damage and how they are losing profits. Pretty pathetic actions by these guys, so let's not blame some poor black guy that stole an imported tv set he doesn't have any power so what good is that going to do him, maybe he can sell it for some water, which if controlled by the corps will soon be three bucks a gallon too. Good shit this repugs I feel so much better now.

Tuba,

Good point about rebuilding. I have always thought that anybody willing to build or live in a flood plain is nuts. I even had an idea when the floods hit the midwest (again): Any one persons property can be compensated ONCE.

How many times do we have to rebuild some knuckle-heads house on our tax dollars because they want a better view of the river or the beach front property?

I am sure my idea is very flawed but the idea that we rebuild and rebuild again is crazy.

capt

Don;

Actually it's not that funny. 

I think we should be following the right wing pundits very carefully in the next little while, I'm waiting to see how this one spins out.

Naturally if it couldn't be predicted it must be Clintons fault, I'm not sure what mental and linguistic gymnastics will be required, but you can be sure it's the lefts fault.  We need someone to write the FRI a nice big check to do some research.  Wait I'm beginning to see a thread here:  It can be demonstrated that Clinton's banana policy demonstrably caused the levees in to fail.  If Clinton had focused more on banana imports none of this would have happened, but we all know that Clinton wasn't interested in banana policy because bananas haven't had sex in years*. 

*Lack of Sex Life Threatens Banana Crops

WTF,

Not to mention the people that were left behind are those that had no way or place to go. The poor, the street people, the homeless, the infirmed, most needed help before the hurricane hit.

capt

"...Is it WISE to be needy, in this "Land of the Free"?

...Is it WISE to be bleeding, in the shark-filled sea?

-Richard Thompson

JB -

Some bananas, painting all bananas as ripe for the picking denies the bananas that are active and very appealing. HA!

capt

One of the things I heard this morning on C-Span was an newspaper editorial, I forget which paper, calling for a waiver of Davis-Bacon prevailing wage laws in the effected counties. After 9/11, the government did all it could to remove labor protection from federal workers being moved into the Dept. of Fatherland Security. It has constantly shortchanged the unionized first responders, police, fire, etc.

Now this...

"...Is it WISE to be needy, in this "Land of the Free"?

...Is it WISE to be bleeding, in the shark-filled sea?

-Richard Thompson

A friend has a background in accounting, economics, and finance. He has said that America needs a depression. The budget deficits and problems would wipe the slate clean and enslave Americans. I cannot say why he believes in a depression but he did say that a depression is needed. I hope that a depression is not inevitable but my background is not accounting, economics, and finance to predict America's economic future. Whether or not there is a depression, America faces many, many problems. Corruption, greed, and lies are hard at work.

God works in mysterious ways. Bush was inactive on September 11, 2001 and now he is inactive on Katrina. Bush is the dumbest emperor in history. Bush is a psycho.

There is a course titled, Christology. We also have Theology. But, I would like a course strictly about God's mysterious ways. Maybe we could give the course a title, such as Godology. It would be a fascinating course because God does work in mysterious ways.

Robert,

Anything to inflict more and better totalitarianism and to better empower the police state.

The fascist brown-shirts never miss such an opportunity.

capt

I think there are still some Republican Whitewater investigators who still have funding and will now begin an inquiry into whether Bill Clinton used any bananas for sexual purposes.

Another can o'worms opened...

Benson,

I just googled "Banana Sex Life"...

I'll be back in a while... (closes window blinds)

-T

Nothing is more shameful than David Corn and his flock of blind loyalists playing politics with a national calamity like this. It is this type of knee-jerk attempt to exploit the death and suffering of fellow Americans that lead so many of us to believe that liberals truly hate their country.

Capt.

Its just so true. The Cops get all kinds of new crowd control toys to play with, orange fencing, tasers, projectile bean bags and wooden blocks, as well as rubber coated steel bullets, and new forms of pepper sprays and capsicom powders, but they get shafted for pay raises, and effective emergency communications devices.

Here goes...

Do I REALLY need this trip to the store...

Let's see...

No meat,
No beer,
No bread
....OK, but I'm not starting the Passport's little 4-cylinder "engine that could" until I get all the way down to the creek! Upper-body strengthening exercises with no power steering is an ADDED bonus! (and has nothing to do with previous post, you dirty-minded libruls!)

-T

Nothing is more shameful than David Corn and his flock of blind loyalists playing politics with a national calamity like this. MMM

On 9/11. Nothing is more shameful than George W. Bush and his flock of blind loyalists playing politics with a national calamity like this.

Katrina brought havaoc to the South; Bush brought havoc to Iraq. Iraq is going on three years with water, sewage, and electrical problems. Our bombs brought depleted uranium to Iraq. Depleted uranium brings on many health problems that will surface through the years. American soldiers fighting in Iraq will come in contact with depleted uranium that will surface at some point in their lifetime. Life expectancy of depleted uranium is 4 billion years.

"Nothing is more shameful"

Try a mirror, is it more shameful to post here as a supporter of war, death, stupidity, mismanagement, miscalculation, and an Andover Cheerleader wannbe cowboy who is scared of farm animals and has nothing to tame but brush on his pretend "ranch" or as a fan of what David Corn writes?

You can do the math on this one.(simple addition and subtraction)

You old cornbot you. HA!

capt

9/11! WMDs! GET POLICE STATE POWERS! INVADE INVADE INVADE!!

Nothing like "politicizing" a calamity, is there M3?

Well, then, talk about your "quick-draw" librul gunslingers!

-well done, boys!

BTW - We are not "anti-Bush" we are all pro-American, the anti-Bush is a resulting effect not a cause.

We have our point of view because our eyes are open and we are not blind.

A blind lemming running headlong for the cliffs edge screaming "you blind followers" would be funny if not so tragic.

And with that my like minded friends I will slink into the shadows of the lurk and will enjoy all that you guys post.

Good day all!

capt

There was so much tax money diverted from projects and departments for Homeland Security. Some was well spent. But it was a lot of money and where did it go? I rode the train early this summer. The homeland security screening there was an 8 by 11 sheet of paper telling me what I could bring on board. That was one sheet of paper taped to a window. Now maybe there was more done behind the scenes but maybe not.
As for solutions to the problems occuring during the aftermath of the hurricane? Bush and his people have to get rid of the attitude - friends first- and I'm not sure he's capable of doing that.

What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label, "Liberal"? If by "Liberal" they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then the record of this party and its members demonstrate that we are not that kind of "Liberal." But, if by a "Liberal," they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people - their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties - someone who believes that we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say that I'm a "Liberal."

The Continuing Bolton Follies:

Bolton Voices Opposition to U.N. Proposals
White House Fears Effort Would Inhibit U.S. Authority
By Colum Lynch
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, September 1, 2005; Page A23

United Nations - John R. Bolton, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, has voiced firm opposition to U.N. reorganization measures that the Bush administration fears would inhibit U.S. authority to use force and place new legal obligations on countries to intervene where genocide, ethnic cleansing or war crimes were being committed. more

Come hell or high water, or in this case both, John Bolton plows on...

Bolton urged the U.N. members to deliver a strong statement condemning terrorism but to defer any discussion on a definition of terrorism to the General Assembly, which is negotiating a convention on terrorism. The United States argues that the convention should exclude any acts by armed forces during a conflict.

Someone has to explain this Estate tax to me. If i work my a$$ of and make 5 million in my life, i pay 2.5 million of it to taxes. Then my kids have to pay 50% tax on it? So basically they get 25 cents for every dollar i earned. How could anyone think that is a good idea? I thought we should all be rewarded for working hard, not punished for it.

Here's another national disaster waiting in the wings. Gas Prices Soar.

Well after all jeanne what could a hijacker have done with a train, take control and say take this train to atlanta: That was sarcasm by the way. No they in the HSA have no clue what they are doing and just are lining up like pigs in the trough to get their snouts in the taxpayer money. You know gw is supposed to have a MBA is this an example of the results of a high quality edumacation? If so then I am not going to send any of my kids there. Damn we need to have someone in the seat of power that has a clue and we sure don't get them, but hope is here, the inept, corrup system of government will be inept and useless and it won't take long before people start to make their own local decision and stop paying attention to the federal government. NOt much of a stretch is it?

Jesus was a liberal. Did he have a country?

We could use the vastly superior genius intellect of Marie Antoine the Grand Educator right now. If she's not too busy with the glee club.

Anyone else sick and twisted enough to imagine Dub and Darth clicking their heels and dancing with glee over an "act of God" handing some of their good friends in the petroleum business a nice little windfall via the retail price of gas? We are only up to about $2.90 a gallon for regular here in Charleston. Tomorrow's another story.

As to TJ and MMM and the rest of the DOT lurking out there: No doubt the looters are all Kerry and Clinton supporters. ;)

I was in New Orleans in April of 2005 with my youngest daughter who was considering attending LOyola University, this fall. While visiting I was appalled by the disparity between the rich and poor in that city and the lack of attention on this issue. I interviewed over 40 serivice workers while I was there and the pay they were receiving was "criminal". The looting that is taking place for personal (not need based) reasons is also "criminal"...but completely understandable, and no one wants to talk about it...."the whirlwind of hate and oppression" is finding an outlet and this storm has been brewing for a very long time in New Orleans.
I just traveled from Colo (where my daughter decided to go to school) and as I drove back to Ohio the radio stations were focused on the "looting"...not on the stranded..the suffering and the dead (which of course are mostly blacks)...when will we hear a story about this and why there was no effort to get these people out of New Orleans before the storm hit.
When the plans are being developed for the "NEW" New Orleans...the issue of "the GAp" between the rich and poor there should be reviewed closely.

I was in New Orleans in April of 2005 with my youngest daughter who was considering attending LOyola University, this fall. While visiting I was appalled by the disparity between the rich and poor in that city and the lack of attention on this issue. I interviewed over 40 serivice workers while I was there and the pay they were receiving was "criminal". The looting that is taking place for personal (not need based) reasons is also "criminal"...but completely understandable, and no one wants to talk about it...."the whirlwind of hate and oppression" is finding an outlet and this storm has been brewing for a very long time in New Orleans.
I just traveled from Colo (where my daughter decided to go to school) and as I drove back to Ohio the radio stations were focused on the "looting"...not on the stranded..the suffering and the dead (which of course are mostly blacks)...when will we hear a story about this and why there was no effort to get these people out of New Orleans before the storm hit.
When the plans are being developed for the "NEW" New Orleans...the issue of "the GAp" between the rich and poor there should be reviewed closely.

In John Bolton's World
By JOANNE MARINER
----
Wednesday, Aug. 31, 2005

John Bolton, the new U.S. ambassador to the United Nations (albeit one who took office via a recess appointment), has strong ideas about how the world should look. In Bolton's world, U.S. military incursions face no hindrance, the natural world is little more than a resource, and facilitating corporate power is a higher priority than reducing poverty.

And the International Criminal Court, the Kyoto Protocol, and the Mine Ban Treaty? They simply don't exist.

*******

This article is a must read!

This is devastating. Trapped in an Arena of Suffering.

47 Nice spin. Multimillionaires find ways to avoid paying half of it out in taxes. When you receive income, you are taxed on it, regardless of whether you worked for it or inherited it from your Dad while you sat on your ass snorting coke.

Depleted Uranium

Scientists are going to study depleted uranium and its effect on the American population. As depleted uranium filters into Iraqi oil, many gallons of Iraqi oil will be brought to America to help America continue her gluttonous ways.

As the depleted uranium is let out through exhaust fumes, it will be in the air and on land for 4 billion years causing many, many health problems in the years to come. Americans will die, become sick, and babies will be born deformed. America's environment will be deadly for 4 billion years.

Insurance companies will be happy because there will be no need for insurance. Born in America will mean that you have a pre-existing condition and you are not entitled to health coverage.

America's attack upon Iraq will bring forth unintended consequences. Terrorism will come to America through Bush's policies and exhaust fumes from Iraqi oil. Bush's non-scientist board will say to not worry about Iraqi oil. It is safe. Right!

Project for a New American Century will be elated because their goal of a planet with only 500 million people will be well underway.

Robert I just read the article. Corky, I'm ready to self combust. What do I do?
Bolton is so cruel he's almost a cartoon. He really has no concern for appearence. Nothing sneaky about him. Why pretend to have compassion? Why pretend to be diplomatic. Just kick ass.

Gerald,
Where did you find that article? My neighbor would be interested. He studies the problems concerning DU.

And now for some really important news.
Diane you are so lucky.

MMM;
I'm standing by to support you please donate generously to the FRI and help stop this liberal horde from causing further damage to this great country. Remember in this time of need the greatest thing you can do is support the GOP and our Glorious Leader in this patriotic struggle. Please help stop them now.
JB Senior Fellow, FRI

More good news. Rumsfeld to appear on Letterman. I just wonder who thought this would be a good idea. I know David Letterman is going to be too nice.

I caught on John. Even without facial expression. Yippeee.

Depleted Uranium:
Dirty Bombs, Dirty Missiles, Dirty Bullets
A death sentence here and abroad
LEUREN MORET / San Francisco Bay View 18aug04

I heard a little boy, or was it a girl, say that the tragedy that is happining down south is like the titanic. "Only the rich are getting out". Out of the mouthes of babes.
I do not know who said, I just thought I'd share it.

Jeanne;
It's pretty obvious when you read my serious responses. I admit I would love to be able to deliver this with a deadpan expression, instead I wind up with an idiotic smirk on my face. (Deliberate segue intentional).

Joe, that was on left wing liberal commie America & freedom hating Air America radio this a.m. I heard it too...

If only I was a neocon, I could shout out loud that I love Bush. Bush loves us as a father loves his children. Right! I read an article several months back that Bush looks upon himself as a father figure. I cannot remember the title. I believe that Jim Wallis the preacher wrote the article but I could be wrong.

Jeanne, I was a repugnant operative from 1969 to 1984. My inside sources who will remain nameless
have said that Bush's non-scientists will study the problem. There is no article to read at this time.

Bush hates scientists and so he has placed non-scientists on science boards and he says that scientists will study the problem. There are a few scientists on the boards but they are quacks and lap dogs for Bush.

Bush bungles it again: Federal government wasn't ready for Katrina, disaster experts say
By Seth Borenstein, Knight Ridder Newspapers

"What you're seeing is revealing weaknesses in the state, local and federal levels," said Eric Tolbert, who until February was FEMA's disaster response chief. "All three levels have been weakened. They've been weakened by diversion into terrorism."

Exactly how did shrub assume to be the father of the nation? I don't want a drug abuser coward, deserter, know nothing assume that position. I would like to flog his ass in public on the white house lawn and get the ticket franchise for the pay per view of that little scenario.

More seriously folks, for me this will only get worse. When they start interviewing the people who have lost loved ones I'm going to need to retreat very far. Anyone who has ever lost a spouse or a child will be able to put themselves in the hell these folks will be facing long after the water has receded. As for the rest of us, including our suddenly compassionate friends from the opposition, we will undoubtedly move on and in 6 months wonder why these folks are still hurting. It's not a criticism, it's just a fact.

I BEGAN READING CORN'S ARTICLE AND JUST GOT SICK TO MY STOMACH. WHAT GROSS, CRASS, AND PERVERSE THINGS TO SAY! THIS WAS GROSS. I DID NOT FINISH THE ARTICLE.

PEOPLE ARE DYING. I CANNOT GIVE DAVID CORN ANY MONEY. I'M DONATING TO THE AMERICAN RED CROSS.

You leave out such All-American imbeciles as Michael Marcavage, director of a lunatic asylum that calls itself Repent America , the members of which want you to know that the hurricane is G*d punishing the wicked. Really...maybe we have found a lifeform that has not evolved. I quote: "Although the loss of lives is deeply saddening, this act of God destroyed a wicked city. From 'Girls Gone Wild' to 'Southern Decadence,' New Orleans was a city that had its doors wide open to the public celebration of sin. From the devastation may a city full of righteousness emerge, We must help and pray for those ravaged by this disaster, but let us not forget that the citizens of New Orleans tolerated and welcomed the wickedness in their city for so long. May this act of God cause us all to think about what we tolerate in our city limits, and bring us trembling before the throne of Almighty God." So pray for 'em and smack 'em down if they do it again.

BRIAN,

Cool, they take money from people without requiring a reading comprehension test.

Robert Schwartz, thank you for the article.

Jeanne, there will be more information on DU as investigative reporters have their spines returned. My brother-in-law died of Agent Orange from his duties in Vietnam.

We have to be careful when it comes to our government in general but more specifically under our present psycho in the WH.

Here's another.

Radioactive Wounds of War

Exactly how did shrub assume to be the father of the nation? WTF

Well, if nations are as children to the globe, he has been screwing the world.

I just heard on the news that the President is gonig to visit the area tomorrow. Is he kidding or what? With the already extremely scarce resources in Lousiana, Mississippi and Alabama, he's going on a visit, requiring tons of security, personnel, fuel, food, and more? He should just stay out of the way. I'm sure the people down there have better things to do than babysit the President.

MMM: "Nothing is more shameful than David Corn and his flock of blind loyalists playing politics with a national calamity like this. "

Hey you despicable little worm, nobody's "playing" politics. Politics kill. That should be obvious even to you at this point.

Bush diverts levee restoration funding to his needless bloodbath in Iraq, and thousands of poor, innocent Americans drown in Lake George as a result.

Of course, eventually the blame belongs not with the empty cowboy hat in the White House but where it rightfully belongs -- with the freedom-fry eaters who put him there, people like you.

Politics and ignorance is a lethal combination.

Dry Rot

If you want to see how rotten the majority of Americans are, go to CNN and Wolf Blitzer and see the number of Americans who are homeless. They are mainly poor people. Katrina was an unfortunate eye opener. Americans have no souls. All they have inside their bodies is dry rot. Americans are rotten to the core.

Repugnants are great on giving tax cuts and cutting back programs so the rich and the corporations can have more money and escape from paying taxes.

Americans will rue the day for their selfishness and endless hatred of people.

The reports on the ground in NO are getting uglier by the minute. I'm getting furious.

The South is short of manpower. Most of America's manpower is in Iraq fighting to spread Bush's democracy. JUST IN - America is ready to to nuke Iran in order to divert attention away from Katrina. Bush continues to see himself as the War President.

Pat Robertson calls for the assasination of Mother Nature, "She's attacked us for the last time!" he was heard to exclaim.

Homeland Security Chief and compassionate conservative Michael Chertoff:

"The critical thing was to get people out of there before the disaster," he said on NBC's Today program. "Some people chose not to obey that order. That was a mistake on their part."

We should be calling for this asshole's head.

Wonder what the shrubs poll numbers are now? Hmm?

From Evil

I came across some notes and on one page was a sentence. FROM EVIL WILL COME A GREATER GOOD. Personally, I do not know if this is possible. When I see and hear Bush and his behaviors, I see and hear evil. How can a greater good come from Bush? He has total control of America; the American people accept Bush as some divine being; he is destroying the US Constitution; Americans are accepting his lies; Americans do not know the difference between right and wrong; liars for bush control the media; and our
elections are rigged to favor the repugnants. How can a greater good come from what is happening to and in America?

From CNN I heard that Congress reconvened in minutes with regard to Terry Schiavo but on day 5 of Katrina Congress is frolicking in drunken stupers.

JUST IN - a comment was made that the homeless should be air lifted to Crawford, Texas and Bush's 1600 acres.

Don,

Why didn't those people start walking out on Friday, instead of hunkering down in their hovels? I heard NOTHING about ANY program to pre-evacuate the poor, elderly and indigent.

For those who say "The storm didn't SEEM strong enough, before landfall, to cause that kind of damage...who could've EXPECTED such?" Remind them that 24hrs before landfall, Katrina was a CATEGORY FIVE Hurricane with a 902mb barometric pressure, the FOURTH lowest ever recorded in an Atlantic Basin storm. This was predicted about a day after Katrina went back out to sea after 1st landfall.

Jim Cantore of the Weather Channel reported from a fucking NURSING HOME a MILE from the shore during the storm that the building's foundation were 27feet above sea level and the residents and equipment STILL were moved up to the 2nd floor because of rising waters filling the 1st.

All those homeless, poor, indigent, sick and elderly people should get the message... This is an OWNERSHIP SOCIETY!!! You can NOT rely on your local, state or Federal government to help you save your sorry ass in an emergency!

Stop paying taxes to those theives before it is too late!

-T

Gerald,

re: Airlift to Crawford...

Don't you think those people have suffered enough?

-T

This is from Democracy Now.
End clip.
AMY GOODMAN: And that was Bill Quigley, Professor -- Law Professor at Loyola University in the Memorial Hospital, Tenant, in Louisiana, there with his wife who is an oncology nurse and helping people there. Again, yesterday sent a text message out, and this is the last we have heard of him from the hospital. This is almost 20 hours after we had spoken, which said, Ҏo water, sick, no heat. Call somebody for help.Ӡ

Walking out was not an option for most, first they weren't in any shape to walk three blocks much less the miles and where would they walk? The interstates prohibit pedestrians, and there are no foot paths out of there, and another point, being outside in a cat 4 storm is no party either, holing up in a poor structure is better than being exposed to the wind and rain. Nope they were doomed from the start, and it is too bad, you would hope that some lessons would be learned from this but I doubt it. NOthing can get this admin off their ass they know nothing and care less. We need some leadership and it is about time. How about it?

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - The U.S. military confirmed on Thursday that its soldiers killed a Reuters journalist in Iraq but said their action was "appropriate".

They didn't even use a "throwdown piece" to try and claim he was armed.

I sure could use a little good noose today!

-T

WTF,

That was sarcasm, there, pal.

-T

Hajji - DeMint is on the radio blaming Jimmy Carter and the "hippy environmentalists" for the high gas prices. Cool, huh?

Hajji, you are right. It is good to have ideas from thinking people.

I heard one of the problems down South is that the states do not have the equipment to move the people out of these dreadful conditions. One American soldier who wrote a book said that he had to buy his own equipment in Iraq. If America has no equipment for her soldiers, you can just imagine that there is no equipment for evacuating people from problem areas in America.

When Bush was reappointed emperor, Seymour Hersh said that we will just have to see how events play out with Bush in the WH. We all know that Bush is a psycho, a coward, very stupid, depraved, and he lacks leadership skills. He is Hitler's clone.

The point is that we now have perhaps 100,000 human beings, trapped by water, health, heat and poverty in a city that might as well be abandoned, leveled and filled. Those people were never taken into consideration in evacuation plans and now we're surprised by their numbers and beligerence?

I shudder to think about conditions in the city's old age homes, supervised and "independent living" apartment complexes where there must be multiple thousands of elderly who have little hope of help at least until the water gets pumped out of the streets. The survivors of a week of languishing in such conditions might still be many, but few will be in any shape to help out the others.

Once again, even the hospitals in NO didn't seem to have evacuation plans. Ventilated patients, cardiac therapy patients will NOT survive such conditions.

-T

King Robb,

re: DeMentia

...all I ask is a chance to get close enough...

Coincidentally I got a letter from Linsey Graham today, "thanking" me for my opinions on his actions to engineer a "compromise" in the coronation of Supreme Court nominees today. "I SUPPORT the President's nominees, and I'll ALWAYS vote for them..."

Paging future Chief Justice Ashcroft...paging Mr.Ashcroft your bench is ready!

-T

Sorry Hajji, too much time here trying to play whack a troll but there are other blogs I guess. Must be bored out of my mind. Too hot here to go outside today, must get into pool

Depleted Uranium Resources

Yes, I got the same letter regarding John Bolton who is, as you know, oh so qualified to bring about all those much needed reforms at the U.N.

Speaking of Pool,

Stopped into the closest bar to the house, on the way home from the store, to have a beer and stick a thermometer in rectum of local opinion.

It is like the anti Brewpub... A pool table, a small bar...a tiny karioke stage and I usually make it a point to back into parking so the bumperstickers don't get my tires slashed.

Not one of 5 guys in there had anyting positive to say about the federal response to Katrina. Four of the 5 said they should send the GA, MS, AL, TX and SC reserves home from Iraq IMMEDIATELY to help deal with the catastrophy. (I only did a small bit of logistical talking, didn't want to piss in their bud lites) One ex Jarhead mentioned that he'd come full circle on support for Iraq II and will NEVER believe anything any "Washington REMF" says again.

-T

p.s.

What's the difference between an oral and a rectal thermometer?

-the TASTE!

HA!

-T

Hope finally if you can get the bud light drinker to start finally opening their eyes then you got something. Hope it carries over after all pendelums are swinging. About time. INteresting times after all.

Dear David,

You seem to understand the struggles these poor people are having in New Orleans. I wonder why you don't take the time to criticize the NRA for fighting to allow these desperate people to have guns in first place. I mean if you could foresee this event and would have put money into a better levee system, surely you would have seen the mayhem to come and criticize the local government for not replacing supplies around the city for this event. After all they could have simply taxed tourist for martigra to build levees and shelters. You seem to dismiss the fact that these are thugs. New Orleans is well known for being a corrupt city and it is proving it now. Oh wait, New Orleans is ran by democrats and criticizing them would not help your cause.

I got a letter from Pat Robertson's secretary. He's too busy to write to me. He tried to spin me to death with his form letter.

David,

Quit being a fucking fag. You liberals never cease to amaze me.

John Benson: I don't think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees.

--George W. Bush 9/1/2005 Good Morning America.

Now there's a familiar refrain:

"I don't think anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center, that they would try to use an airplane as a missile."

--Condoleezza Rice, May 2002

Isn't this the president who flew around in a campaign plane with "Accountability 1" painted on the side?

The hypocrisy of this troupe of ideological freaks stinks worse than a New Orleans street.

David,

You're a douchebag.

Me

I am going to find out where david corn lives so I can break into his house and loot it. It's not stealing because my young children need to survive. (according to corn)

the con rice was a psychic: she called her pal poor willy brown, the mayor of S.F., a few days before 911 occurred and suggested to him that he might not want to be getting on any planes that week....

Mis spellings, bad grammar, childish epithets and ridiculous analogies from the trolls. Why doesn't Marie Antoine the Grand Educator spend some time on her conservative minions?

All you libs are still in shock of what happened to your hero John Kerry in the election. IT IS TIME TO MOVE ON!!!! Whatever the president does, you libs critique.

P.S. - James Ha, get a life.

Drowning New Orleans

October 2001 issue

A major hurricane could swamp New Orleans under 20 feet of water, killing thousands. Human activities along the Mississippi River have dramatically increased the risk, and now only massive reengineering of southeastern Louisiana can save the city

By Mark Fischetti

New Orleans is a disaster waiting to happen. The city lies below sea level, in a bowl bordered by levees that fend off Lake Pontchartrain to the north and the Mississippi River to the south and west. And because of a damning confluence of factors, the city is sinking further, putting it at increasing flood risk after even minor storms. The low-lying Mississippi Delta, which buffers the city from the gulf, is also rapidly disappearing. A year from now another 25 to 30 square miles of delta marsh--an area the size of Manhattan--will have vanished. An acre disappears every 24 minutes. Each loss gives a storm surge a clearer path to wash over the delta and pour into the bowl, trapping one million people inside and another million in surrounding communities. Extensive evacuation would be impossible because the surging water would cut off the few escape routes. Scientists at Louisiana State University (L.S.U.), who have modeled hundreds of possible storm tracks on advanced computers, predict that more than 100,000 people could die. The body bags wouldn't go very far.

A direct hit is inevitable. Large hurricanes come close every year. In 1965 Hurricane Betsy put parts of the city under eight feet of water. In 1992 monstrous Hurricane Andrew missed the city by only 100 miles. In 1998 Hurricane Georges veered east at the last moment but still caused billions of dollars of damage. At fault are natural processes that have been artificially accelerated by human tinkering--levying rivers, draining wetlands, dredging channels and cutting canals through marshes. Ironically, scientists and engineers say the only hope is more manipulation, although they don't necessarily agree on which proposed projects to pursue. Without intervention, experts at L.S.U. warn, the protective delta will be gone by 2090. The sunken city would sit directly on the sea--at best a troubled Venice, at worst a modern-day Atlantis.

*****end of clip*****

How could Bunnypants have ever thought of such a thing? He does not read so unless Karen Huge or Neocondi Rice read to him from Scientific American he would be just as feckless as always.

Not to mention the article is written by some silly sissy fancy-pants nancy-boy scientist, Bunnypants thinks all scientists are French and he only listens to God anyway.

I wonder why God would tell Bunnypants that there were WMD’s in Iraq or why God failed to warn him about the devastation in store for New Orleans? Wait a minute, Orleans is French, no wonder. Bunnypants is SURE God hates the French.

I wonder why God is not telling Bunnypants the truth? Hmmm.

I guess God must want Bunnypants to be the biggest failure of a president this country has ever seen. Worse than Nixon. Maybe the Reich-wing should quit spouting off, using the lords name for their evil Kkkristo-fascist crap. I think it is pissing God off.

capt

Whatever the president does, you libs critique.

Well, I wouldn't necessarily say anything if a certain fake reporter, a bald-headed man-whore in the news a few months back, gave Dear Leader a blow-job in the Oval Office. That would be their business, of course.

Not that there's anything wrong with that!

Jill was interviewed today for WYFF Channel 4 today re: DMAT deployment. Should be on the 6pm newscast. I haven't seen it on the 5 o'clock edition, yet.

-T

Charity donations to who? Why Pat Robertson of course. Corky, you better not read this one.

Silly libs!

We're silly alright. Silly. Silly. Silly. All article we post are so silly. So...what grade are you in?

Ok, now I admit this is a silly article. Rove makes surprise visit. This one is a little short on substance but it it fun. Photos and everything.

This is referring to the silly article above. I just noticed Karl paid a visit to the camp on Tuesday night. Isn't that nice? Here comes the not so silly part. Why was he at the barbeque? Don't let a little hurricane stop you from having fun.

just a comment..... when the usa invaded iraq , before the attacks WIND UP RADIOS were dropped so that the iraqi citizens could recieve vital information. where to go, what to do, what was being done for them etc..

why has this method not been used in new orleans to tell OUR citizens what is going on? just a little information might calm the panic and avoid violence due to frustration.

i know there are many people of all poitical backgrounds working their tales off to help. but obviously, someone has dropped the ball and have yet to pick it back up again.

Cute little blog ad. In the meantime the right side of the blogosphere has been organizing links to get supplies,food, and info directly to those who need it. They have devoted their entire blogs to helping the needy. But hey you guys keep complaining about what Bush should have done and we'll keep picking up your slack. I hope Howard Deans fund raising letter worked. Have fun living in your self righteous little world. I will be sending money to my family members who are now in Houston and surprisingly have not had anything to say about the President.

David Corn,

This is a natural disaster that occurred to those living in New Orleans. It struck fiercely and blindly; regardless of their political affiliation. While I do support donating money to the relief fund, I find it questionable why I would donate to "liberal bloggers" rather than an organization that is actively involved with volunteers in New Orleans helping starving people. I find your attempted advancement of politics immature and irrelevant to helping alleviate the situation at hand.

I will be voting against Bush and all of his attributes just as quickly as you will (believe you, me) come 2008.

To "dilstoy": go eat a dick and stop making things out to be a personal attack towards your Republican insecurities.

Thank you.

To cody, grow one you pathetic excuse for a human. I'm not insecure I'm disgusted. You want to get political how about this you losers. New Orleans and Louisianna have been run by Democrats for decades. Lay the blame where it belongs on the corrupt state and local officials who had no plan. Get over yourselves you self righteous maggots.

The right will save the day!

Dear Hadjii (AKA the Scatological entymologist),

I don't know what your fascination with rectums is, but you repeat your fetish enough on this board, a debate as to whether it is on your mind or in your brain is pointless.

Here is the quote from Huffingtonpost but the following link excoriating RFK's insensitive lunacy is even better:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/01/opinion/meyer/main810778.shtml

Here is the link of RFK attacking Wind Power...the ultimate hypocrisy:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=9442

RFK Jr. said:

"Now we are all learning what it's like to reap the whirlwind of fossil fuel dependence which Barbour and his cronies have encouraged," Kennedy wrote. "Our destructive addiction has given us a catastrophic war in the Middle East and — now — Katrina is giving our nation a glimpse of the climate chaos we are bequeathing our children … Perhaps it was Barbour's memo that caused Katrina, at the last moment, to spare New Orleans and save its worst flailings for the Mississippi coast. [UPDATE: Alas, the reprieve for New Orleans was only temporary. But Haley Barbour still has much to answer for.]"

***end of clip***

Loving God's creation is one thing, but worshipping Nature as if it was a god?.....RFK is Looney toons.

These enviromentalists are talking about this hurricane the way ancient neolithic idol worshippers talked, complete with Hurricanes anthropomorphic characteristics. Let me see if I get this...Haley Barbour, Bush and his "cronies angered the God of Thunder and the God of Warming, so the God of Warming and the God of Thunder begat the god of Hurricanes and this angry spawn of the loins of the previosly mentioned gods directed its fury at New Orleans, but using it's clever wit at the last minute the God of Hurricanes turned and attacked Haley Barbour to exact revenge upon him and GWB.

Oh Brother!!! RFK has been chasing Windmills too long...send the men in White Coats to Hyannisport.

[I hope this helped out Hadjii, the rectum boy.]

Hey do you think that the WH admin planned hurricane Katrina (or allowed it to carry out its destruction) in order to increase the distraction that keeps the heat off of Rove?

Wingnuts (left or right) who can't tell that this is humor, and therefore thinks that there are unsubstantiated conspiracy theories around Katrina, need not reply.

When the Coward of Crawford visits NO tomorrow (Friday), how is he going to manage to collect a friendly crowd to cheer him on? Even the fascist police are not going to be very accomodating. With all the weapons and ammunition, perhaps some well-trained former or current marksman from the military will take this opportunity to free the world of this criminal. Are we Americans so stupid that we cannot see the relationship between this chickenhawk and his war on humanity around the world? Do you even comprehend what is going on in the Gulf Coast? This is a disaster of such monumental proportions that the current administration is helpless to address. Any administration is challenged, but this one is so far from reality that they should all be assaulted with the fury of the media that has been their lapdogs for the past several years. How much more BS will they be willing to shovel to us, and how much more will we take? I have an exempt tax status, not because I am legally entitled to it, but because it is my money to earn and spend as I choose. If I want to support killing, I will hire a private killer, not pay the government to train and use them against people with whom I have no quarrel.
I am so angry and sad, I wish the worst for this president. We need a Leftist Pat Robertson to speak the desires of the masses who have been trampled by this perverted momma's boy. I wonder if Barbara Bush Sr. is wrapping her beautiful mind around this one? W probably wishes he could crawl back into her nice, warm Bush, where all the mean people who hate him can't touch him.
Enough.
John (no St. on this one)

John McPhee wrote "The control of Nature" waaay back in 1989. The first section deals with this subject eloquently, although his most likely scenario was that a barge would cause a domino effect up-river. Some notable quotes: "The nation could not afford nature."..."For nature to take its course was simply unthinkable. The sixth world war would do less damage to southern Louisiana. Nature, in this place, had become the enemy of the state."..."From the beginnings of settlement, failure was the par expectation with respect to the river---a fact generally masked by the powerful fabric of ambition that impelled people to build towns and cities where almost any camper would be loath to pitch a tent."... there are too many more to list! It may do some good to say "I told you so" in this particular case.

Jeanne is a bitch.

Party of sleaze exploits Katrina tragedy:
http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--katrina-democrats0908sep08,0,3588467,print.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork

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Reboot will cure this once its seen.

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Reboot will cure this once its seen.

"Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition"

"Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition"

The echo aint my doing.